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June 14, 2023 64 mins

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 Dionne Draper and Lisa Marie-Simmons bring you DAWTA The Podcast, Episode 3 with a special focus on the Black, Male TRA (Transracial Adoptee) experience and a wider focus on Black, Male Mental Health. 

Robert Lewtas is a transracial adoptee living in London and works as an accountant for a large theatre producer. He is a proud father who identifies as Black English..though others might disagree!

Michael Earle is an award winning wellbeing consultant, international speaker, mental health practitioner and certified Nordic Walking instructor. He lives in Bristol with his wife Joanne. Michael is a great advocate of self-care, and his mission is to inspire people to make their well-being a non-negotiable priority.

SPECIAL OFFER!! Michael is offering the first three people that email him after  listening  to the episode a free thirty minute wellbeing check-up call.

Research - Journal of social distress and the homeless, Vol. 0 No. 0, Month, 2015, 1–16

The emotional labor of playing cool: How Black male transracial adoptees find ways to cope within predominantly White settings. Darron T. Smith:The University of Tennessee Health Science Center, Memphis, USA 

Ghost Kingdom - Coined by Betty Jean Lipton, an influential psychologist who specializes in adoption therapy and fought for adoption reform, the Ghost Kingdom refers to the hypothetical world adoptees enter when imagining their birth relatives.

Different Strokes: Info found at

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Your episode hosts are Dionne Draper and and produced by Dionne Draper and Kate Daggett. Thanks Kate, you did a great job!

Follow the links to find out more about:

Michael Earle website 

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DISCLAIMER: We hope this episode offers you knowledge, comfort and support, however it is not meant to serve as a substitute for a relationship with a trained and licensed counselor or therapist.

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