DDR 056 - Lori Ellis - Don't Die Rusty Podcast

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Well, hello, Don't Die Rusty Nation.
I'm here again.
This is Rick Hansen and I have a special guest today.
Lori Ellis.
It's interesting because our Ricktastic member Ashley Kurttenbach suggested that I talk toLori Ellis.
She's a, and I said, well, I'll try getting a hold of her and I finally got a hold of youand now we're finally talking and this will be a fun episode.

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educational and interesting and all kinds of stuff because in my research you're veryinteresting.
So I'm going to let Lori introduce herself and then we're going to start in on theconversation.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
It's such a pleasure.
you know, we've already had like when you made contact and told me, you know, you had thispodcast, I started listening to it and we've already had a couple of really great

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conversations.
And I remember thinking after the first time we talked, I was like, well, that was apodcast right there.
That should have been recorded.
You know, so yeah, I agree.
It's going to be a great conversation.
So thanks for having me and Ashley's awesome.
So appreciate her suggesting that.
So my name is Lori Ellis.
I'm mother and a grandmother first and foremost.

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I have an amazing family and it's my heart and soul.
I've been in the wellness and fitness industry for a couple of decades now on my ownwellness and fitness journey for 25 years after an experience of getting to the point
where I got to make a choice, whether I wanted to continue going down the road I was on orI wanted to make a change.

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And so that happened 25 years ago and I've been on this amazing journey.
called wellness, which is a huge topic, involves many, different puzzle pieces.
I always say, look at it like this great big picture.
It's your picture.
It's full of many, many puzzle pieces.
And a lot of them are similar to other people as far as physiology and the basic, youknow, human things that the body needs and things like that.

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but otherwise everybody's customized.
And there's so many pieces and we get the opportunity every day to look at that pictureand decide what pieces still fit or did they ever fit?
And we get to remove those and we get to replace those with things that help us to live ahealthier, happier, stronger life at any age.
And I can tell you, and it's a daily journey, like it's never ending, right?

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This is this beautiful existence we call life.
We walk around in this body that we get the beautiful gift of having to, I say, take oursoul through this physical existence, right?
It's such a gift.
I call it the vehicle that houses our soul.
And we get to take care of it once we're aware that we have this to take care of becauseso often we go through life not even thinking about what do I need?

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What does my body need?
Life is busy.
We all have responsibilities.
We have all these schedules and all these things.
And sometimes we forget.
So it's a constant journey that we get to get up every morning and ask the questions andpay attention and be able to make those choices to live a healthier life.

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there are, I always say like, I don't have all the answers, I'm still living this.
I'm very fortunate that I had that moment 25 years ago where I was like, I don't want thisto continue.
after two major surgeries, two years in a row for an inflammatory condition calledendometriosis that women listening, you know, will know what I'm talking about.

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And what was going on wasn't helping me to get better.
And so I made the decision, like, I don't wanna keep doing this.
What can I do differently?
And I asked the question and then I said, you know, I'm going to figure this out.
I'm going to help my body get well.
And I don't know what that looks like, but every day I'm going to learn something.

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And so I just took that leap and made a different decision.
And then I always say every day is another decision.
It's another opportunity to have the awareness to make another choice toward the life thatyou do want.
And so we're consistently learning, which I think is fantastic.
I love learning.
So I'm open to.

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How can life be even better?
And then how can, because I made the commitment 25 years ago and I said, when I figurethis out and I went back home and I recovered from that surgery and I went back to school
and I closed a business I was running from home and I said, I'm gonna learn this.
And so I put myself out into the position of being able to learn everything I could.

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And that's what I continue to do to this day.
And then I made a commitment to myself that,
I'm gonna teach and share everything I learned because I just knew and I felt within methat this was going to be an incredible journey.
It was a gift and it really opened me up to what I felt was my next purpose in that seasonof my life.
Well, isn't it amazing how things happen because my post today was about what keeps memoving.

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What keeps me going is about being curious.
And I like to ask the questions.
I like to ask the questions in, or I started, I explained this to a person the other day.
I said, well, I was actually in.
I told you I did an episode with Dr.
Jensen and I said, here's the deal.

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I, I watched the movie seven.
don't know if you've ever seen the movie seven with Brad Pitt and it's about the, well,it's about the seven deadly sins.
And I didn't know what the seven deadly sins really were.
So I, I got the book Dante's Inferno and I read Dante and I said, I wouldn't do that if Iwas in a class, I would, you should do it.
But reading it by yourself is kind of boring.

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But my point is I,
I like to learn about things that I don't know about.
I hate that I said today that the person that thinks they know everything isn't the personI want to talk to.
And I just shut down when I start talking to a know-it-all that is an arrogant prick,we'll just say.

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And I want the person that I can learn from as well as they ask me questions too.
So this is...
This is going to be a wonderful conversation here because I'm curious and, and you likelearning.
so this is great.
it is funny because I just did in little episode.

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We'll keep on working on this about getting the funk out of me.
And I'm, I'm learning about that too.
And I, I believe I like what you're talking about is finding those things to keep moving.
Cause I,
We're both about the same age, which is amazing.

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I'll be 57 in 23 days.
So, and it's great because here's the other thing that I see is people our age.
You can walk, I know you live in Rapid City, live, know, but if you go home, I live in alittle town called Reheis, but if I go home or wherever,

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people our age aren't in very good shape.
And I'm not putting them down because I think that that's a lifestyle they live in.
I don't put anybody down if that's like you said earlier, that's the choice you make.
here's what I wanna do is I wanna keep on seeing those views on the top of the mountain aslong as I can.

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And I was at a place and I...
I talked to a guy who was 94 years old.
kept on climbing mountains and doing his own thing.
And you might not do it to the way you do it when you were 20, but I can tell you gettingup every morning, like breathing in fresh air and hearing the birds and in the spring

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right now, I, I hear is wind blow through my ears and, but, but it's good to get thatfresh air in and then.
We are so lucky these days to have health and wellness podcasts that have the true expertsout there that can give us ideas.

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I like that I was listening, you have a podcast and I was listening to that, but here'swhere I'm going with this is you give me an idea and I go research it and I see if it fits
what I wanna do.
And that's where this world is going.
And here's the other thing I like about being able to do this episode with you is we'reboth open books.

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I mean, if you ask me a question, I'm going to answer it.
And you guys out there need to listen to Lori's podcast.
she, if you're, especially if you're a female, but even as a male, mean, there's thingsthat you've talked about too, that, have, we're
very interesting.

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You know, the get to or have to episode she did was very interesting because that's whereI look at things.
You know, I look at things as a get to.
It's funny, like when you, I grew up on a ranch in central South Dakota.
And when I go back and work, there's people that do, you know, I mean, my friends andother people do this for, as their livelihood.

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and I look at it as a get to, but they have to go out and do this stuff.
They have to go do it.
And it just makes it more fun when you get to do it.
Yes, yes, because it's a choice.
Well, and what you're talking about, I really am enjoying that because it is an awareness.
that that gift of awareness is the clarity, right?

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So, you know, that clarity comes.
So awareness without judgment.
I always like to say that because I work with so many people that have these programmedjudgments in their mindset.
And I had to instill at 58.
moving through a lot of those programmed, conditioned thoughts and beliefs that justhappened throughout our lives when we were downloading information, right?

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And so we are programmed and we are conditioned to think and behave and have a routine ina certain way.
And our habits are based on those beliefs that we were programmed with.
And we come to a point in our lives, and I really believe everybody gets to this point,and then they choose to be aware or not.
And the awareness without judgment, non-reactive to that awareness is simply being curiousabout, okay, this is where I am.

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Is this where I want to be?
Is this who I want to be?
Is this how I want to feel?
Is it true that it's just because I'm this chronological age or because of these geneticsor where I live or whatever, right?
So we get to just ask the question and is this really what I want?
And in that moment of non-judgment, of non-reaction, you get clarity and you get the giftof saying yes or no.

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And then you can say, I get to choose what I think.
I don't have to think that way just because I grew up thinking that way or everybody in mytown or friends circle thinks that way.
I get to make a different decision and a different choice for myself based on what
I want and I write about that in my book.
I'll read you a couple of things from my book that I think will really be really be goodfor this conversation too.

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But again, you know, every day we get that opportunity to ask the question and then learnsomething new through the choice that we make.
Because when we make a new choice, we're going out into unfamiliar territory because we'rechanging, right?
And nothing changes if we don't change.
So if we want a different life, but we keep doing the same things, we're not gonna have adifferent life, but we're gonna keep hoping for a different life, but we're gonna get up

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every day and just sink into a subconscious programming and do the same thing every day,drive the same way to the gym or drive the same way to work.
And how many times have you driven somewhere and you stop and you turn the car off and youdon't even remember the drive?
Because you've either been listening to a podcast

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on the phone or maybe talking through speaker on the phone or you're talking with yourkids, right?
Or you're thinking about something else completely because we're, you know, we're socomplex.
We can think about what we're thinking about and we can judge ourselves for thinking aboutwhat we're thinking about and we can question and think like all of that can happen.

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It's fascinating.
The brain is so different than our mindfulness.
And it's so different than when our heart and soul is speaking and all those conversationscan be going on.
But that awareness brings clarity and that clarity brings us to the point of being able tomake a new choice.
And now we're in new territory and that unfamiliar could be considered outside our comfortzone.

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Because a lot of times the comfort zone of how we're living isn't comfortable, it's justfamiliar.
And I've seen this so many times where people go back to that old lifestyle.
just because it was easier because it was familiar, because the unfamiliar is new and thebrain can't track that.
The brain is this computer that's brilliant, that's downloading information.

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And just like my computer, if I disconnected from Wi-Fi, I would no longer have access toall of the answers to the questions I'm looking for, all the experiences that are new and
different and how I'm going to grow and expand and have a new life if I want to build anew life and create a new future, whatever.
If I take that wifi out, I'm only allowed now to access what's previously been downloaded,my past, right?

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Which is great.
The brain has its purpose and we need that and it's a survival mechanism and it's awesome,but we get to remember every day that we actually get to create through new choices, new
habits.
I did that 25 years ago.
I'm so grateful in that moment of clarity, I decided I don't wanna keep going down thatroad, right?

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I wanted to make a new choice and live differently.
I wanted to feel young and healthy and energetic and vibrant.
And I was only 33 at the time.
I was a young mother and had two major surgeries, two years in a row, you know, woke upfrom the second surgery, completely menopausal at 33 because of the full hysterectomy,
right?
Like you can hear about that whole, I talk about it in my podcast, the whole, because...

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Like you sharing, like when we're sharing this, somebody's going to have a similarexperience and they're going to have an awareness and a clarity because of that in their
own life, hopefully, because we hope to inspire and share through our vulnerability,right, of sharing our own story and our journey.
And that's so powerful because we're all really wanting the same thing, which is to liveour best lives and give the way we came here to give.

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But if we don't allow ourselves to live and receive that beautiful existence, we're notgoing to have that to give.
I always say we can't give away what we don't have.
If we allow our bodies to break down because we haven't paid attention to what we'redoing, what we're not doing, are we keeping them strong?
All of those things that are part of this great big wellness picture.

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If we allow that to break down, we're going to end up in at some point,
having to pay attention to a sickness, to a disease, to an injury, to a surgery, to thatdecline.
And I always want to remind people, you get a choice to not have to go down that road.
I really believe that the body is such a miraculous healing machine, that when we learnwhat it needs and we start to give it what it needs, then we can watch it do its amazing

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things, right?
And we can get better.
And then when we have more energy, we have more energy to give.
we have more time.
We're not focused on sickness or all of the things that come with that.
We're now focused on continuing to improve our energy and improve the way that we feel.
And that allows us to go out and do more and give more of ourselves to our families, tothe world, and to whatever our passion in this world is and leaving a positive impact in

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that way.
And I just don't believe that aging is the problem.
It's inflammation.
It's an inflammation.
When I break it down in my book, I break it down and we can have inflammatory thoughts,right?
What are the inflammatory thoughts that are keeping you from making positive choicestoday?
Are you in self-condemnation?
Are you beating yourself up?
Are you living in the past?

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The past, it has its lessons, it has its purpose, but it doesn't have to continue unlesswe drag it into the future, right?
So the awareness of the present moment is so beautiful.
We step away from living reactively like
We're not a victim.
Life isn't just happening to us.
Tony Robbins says life is happening for us.

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And we get to step into that and go, that's amazing.
What beautiful thing can happen today?
And I get to make this choice and ask that question and create my new future.
I always say what we do today or don't do today determines how we live 20 years, 30 years,40 years from now.
And I'm 58 and I still want to be energetic at 98.

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Well, and I do too, you, you've brought up a lot of things in the one thing about theaging park is it's also your mentality.
And it's about, when you tell yourself you're old, you're going to be old.
And, and when you tell yourself you can go do it, you might do it a little slower.

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I'm still young.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to go see this.
That's where the curiosity comes in.
That's what keeps me going.
And I, I love seeing I'm going to, my last breath is going to be on a mountain because Iwant to see the last sunrise or last sunset, whatever I get to see, because I think that
that's the place that I want to be.

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The other thing when you're talking about choices, I think, I don't know.
I, I, I, I think I could go back about to win.
Choices comes with confidence, I think.
And when you make, when you become confident within yourself and start making thosechoices, those good choices, like I'm confident and I don't give a darn if you, you know,

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I've made this joke a few times before, like when I was back, go back to my mom and dad'sor something like that, I would go running or biking or whatever, but it doesn't matter.
they'd say, who's chasing you?
Cause why are you doing this if nobody's chasing you?
And I was confident with my choice that I want to do that.

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And now when we, in the other thing we were talking about, you were talking about too is Idon't think that we are realizing that we need to see the view.
Not just when you were talking about, I have driven
four hours or more back to my parents' place.

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And I was listening to a book on my vehicle and I didn't even remember where I I mean, Iwas just driving.
And there's funny, cause I was listening to a episode of Joe Rogan yesterday and it's agreat episode.

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They said that our brain does not have firewalls for the technology we have now.
There's no firewalls in the human brain to stop or say, no, we don't need to do this.
But they said that we only think about within ourselves about 10 % of our day.

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And when we aren't thinking within ourselves more than 10 % and I...
I'm one of those crazy people that talks to myself and I think within myself a lot morethan that, I assume, because I'm always thinking how to be better or what challenge can I
make or this and that.
But that is amazing.

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And then the other thing is, is when we have confidence and we're making the right choicesand we know kind of the direction we want to go, we have peace.
And when you have peace within yourself,
The confidence keeps building.
And then we become a better person because we're confident within ourselves and we canshow that to the world.

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And maybe we can inspire somebody else when they say, how do you have, how did you becomeso peaceful?
It's because I had to let some things go and do when you're talking about the past, I'vehad to let a lot of things go in the past that I kept on reliving.
You can't relive your past didn't change it because it's already passed.

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That's why we call it the past.
And I had to look within myself and say, I am reliving my past.
You need to finally stop.
need to, you need to get the scissors out and cut it or whatever you need to, you knowwhat I mean, cut the past and say, I learned from that choice, but I'm not going to make
that choice again.

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Cause you just keep on reliving and then.
You never have that peace.
And I don't know.
This is my favorite episode of the Don't Die Rusty podcast was Ashley, Kelly Lovelace andRicky Brewley.
And I had a discussion about if you had 24 hours to live, would you be at peace or wouldyou be panicked?

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And it, and I love it.
It's my favorite episode, but
It was a question I kept asking myself and I said, guys, we got to get together and we gotto do this because I want everybody's perspective because some people wouldn't be at peace
because of the choices they've made.
And some people are panicking because they haven't lived.
And that's where that's why I got thrown diurestic because I want to live.

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And if you're panicked because you haven't done enough or you have feel that you haven'tbeen the good enough person and you aren't bettering yourself and this and that.
Today's the day to change because tomorrow's gone.
mean, today's gone and you only have tomorrow.
So keep on improving yourself.

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And I like what you say.
And to your point, so to your point, because you tied together so great in that, you know,would you be at peace or would you be panicked?
And that comes back again to the consciousness of where we are, what we want, where we'regoing and why we're here.

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So back to the driving.
So we talked about the driving.
I say unconsciously, right?
When you said it's, they say most people are living 90 to 95 % of their day on asubconscious programming.
That's why I brought up the driving because if our body can drive somewhere because it's aprogram that has been so deeply conditioned that we don't even have to think consciously

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about it, right?
What else in our lives are we doing like that?
And that's the...
Yeah, and so that's the awareness where we get to say every day, all right, maybe becausethe brain again is going to bring things up.
That's its job.
It's going to.
It's going to.
You're going to look at something and it will remind you of something you may want toremember or you may not want to remember.

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But to your point, you get to say every day, and I love that you brought that up.
I don't want to think about that and talking to yourself out loud to say that is brilliantbecause you're telling your brain.
Thank you for the reminder, but we want to put that one in the archives.
Right?
Because we're creating a new thought.
We know our worth.
We know our value.
That's the confidence.

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It's not in looks or credentials or accolades.
It's in how do I feel about myself as a soul walking this planet?
And am I living what I feel like I'm supposed to live?
And I believe that we all come here to be generous in some way.
And that's why I talk about giving of yourself.
If you don't have it to give, you don't have it to give.

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So we've got to make sure
that we're living that, embodying that which we want to be in order to be able to give theway we came here to give.
Because again, to your point, which I think is so brilliant, we want that peace and thatpeace comes from fulfillment.
Because at the end of our lives, what we want is to know we did the best, right?

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We really gave what we could, we learned all we could, we were generous because I believegenerosity is the ultimate fulfillment, I really do.
being generous with yourself and forgiving ourselves is sometimes the hardest thing,giving ourselves the grace that we give others, right?
We're very good, most of us, about forgiving other people and giving them grace.

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You know, if someone's saying they feel they shouldn't have done this or that, like, yeah,that's in the past.
But do we give ourselves that same grace when we feel like we've made a mistake, right?
And so, you know, yes, due diligence if we feel like we need to go and make amends, but...
Do we make amends to ourselves?
So, and then it's about letting it go, like you said.
So I love that, let it go, move on.

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That's again, the awareness.
So that's why I called my podcast, Conscious Wellness, because when we're conscious ofbeing able to ask the question, what do I want?
Who do I want to be?
What legacy do I want to leave?
What positive impact am I here to make?
What am I here to learn?
And then what am I here to give back?
And when we ask ourselves those questions, now we're out in a proactive state of mind andnot a reactive state of mind.

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Now we know that we're creating our life instead of, you know, like I always use theanalogy, like, have you ever felt like the ball in a pinball machine and life just smacked
you into the game and now you're bouncing off, right?
Everybody can relate to what a day like that feels like.
And the awareness of it, and I'm huge on reminders, I'm huge on notifications, like,

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My clients will say to me, you know, cause I'm big into hydration.
They'll say to me, well, I always forget to drink water.
And I'll say, put it in your calendar.
You are a notification in your phone.
It's like a dentist appointment every two hours.
Drink my water, drink my water, you know, or whatever it might be.
Get my workout, you know, whatever somebody wants to do.

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So put that notification in your phone.
You're worthy of having an appointment with yourself.
Make it a non.
negotiable in your life.
Because today, you're right, the past is gone.
Tomorrow is gonna be today when we wake up.
you know, what we do today determines our tomorrow.
And every day is the first day of the rest of our lives.

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It really is.
It is and I always, I feel like I've missed out if I don't see a sunrise.
and I can't say that it happens every day because sometimes we have cloudy days.
That's why I put up a different picture.

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Nobody wants to see me every day.
know what I mean?
And here's what I picture.
I picture.
When I post my posts on either don't die rusty or I post my posts on my own personal pagein the mornings, some days I post me, sometimes I post the sun rises right now.
I can't cause I'm going to work my regular job and I'm going to work and the sun isn'teven up yet.

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So I have no sunrise.
So I, I go take pictures over the weekend and try to get the sun rises.
But here's the deal.
It is when you were talking earlier.
about giving and more or less giving in gratitude and living the best life.

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My thoughts on this are that if I can make somebody smile every day, if I can givesomebody something to think about, but I don't need to have a picture of me because it's
not about me.
If you see the wonderful sunrise and I gave it to you, cause I have some people say, Idon't need to get out of bed.

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Cause I know you're going to give me a sunrise anyway, you know, kind of giving me heck.
But if you can put that smile on somebody's face and you don't even know it.
Like that is giving to the world in itself.
And it's giving, it's giving me something that the Dalai Lama says you should.

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do the right thing because it's the right thing, not because it's right for you.
And I'm just, and that's not exactly how he said it, but I say it how I said it.
And I'm certainly not a Dalai Lama.
But you know, I read a lot of this.
I read a lot of philosophy.

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I read a lot of things.
my goal in life is to be the best person and the best that I can be in.
Like you said earlier, fulfill my life with all kinds of goodness.
I, I had problems.
Uh, no, years ago I was, I had problems with the be kind t-shirts because I said, itshouldn't be be kind.

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said, it should, if you're the best person you can be, you're already kind.
So you should, I thought the shirts had said, be the best you don't, know what I mean?
If we are the best us.
we are giving to the world, you shouldn't have to tell somebody to be kind, be the bestyou.
Just to me, that's a different thinking.

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I was, I'm reading a book now it's called Hardwired Happiness.
And the funny thing about this is, and it was, and it's by Rick Hansen, which is reallyfunny because it's not by me.
But he was saying like, take, if you have a negative thought,

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take that thought out and put that positive thought where your negative thought was, andit'll start accumulating.
And when you're talking about, when we're unconsciously driving to work or driving to thestore or wherever we're unconsciously driving, and I posted this the other day, because I

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read it out of his book too, and it made tremendous sense to me, was we need to stop andtake time.
I said, take 10 seconds to look at this, to see what you're seeing, not just lookingglimpse.
Because if you take that 10 seconds, now it's imprinted in your mind or your heart and youwill remember it.

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But if you're unconsciously just driving to work and say, that's a great sunrise and lookat those colors and you don't notice it.
But when you stop and take a mental picture of this, it'll stay with you.
So when you say,
I'm going to be kind.
I mean, I'm going to be the best person I can be.
If you think about being the best person you can be instead of just right here and like,like to be kind.

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If you think about being the best person, you probably will start changing to be the bestperson.
If you keep on thinking about that kind of stuff and what is the best person, the bestperson to me is for me to be the best me is
what you're doing, wellness.

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Because if I can't go do, if I'm, I have two torn meniscus, but I'm walking every day,okay.
But if I am unhealthy, I can blame the unhealthiness.
So I'm angry or I'm, and here's the, I'm gonna go off a little here today, but I had aphysical, mean, I do not take any like medication.

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for high blood pressure or anything like that.
have no, I'm medication free we'll say.
I do take vitamins and supplements and stuff like that.
But I'm just saying.
And then today I had at 57 or close to it, I went and had to the eye doctor.
I have 20, 20 vision.
And he said that's, you know, and he's going, that's rare for a 57 year old to roughly tohave that.

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But I've
always taking care of my eyes.
And I, I, I did a little funny post cause I know the people that work there.
And I said, this is so I can see the view though.
If your eyes are gone, you'll never see the view.
And I never want to see the, not see the view in my life.
And there's more views to see not just through your eyes, but through your mind andthrough your heart, because I want to see the goodness in people.

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And it's so fun.
You know, the best people in the world to show you goodness if you don't recognize it isgo somewhere where there are little kids.
Cause there are a lot of little kids out there that will show kindness to their friendsand kindness to others.

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And sometimes we need to have a reality check and say, we were that person one time andmaybe we needed
as an adult, we need to start looking at ourselves and be kind to those other people.
Absolutely.
Couldn't agree more.
You know, I think about time with my granddaughter and little kids, they don't judgethemselves.

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You know, I can remember, you know, the first time my babies saw themselves in the mirror,they're ecstatic.
They're not judging what they see.
They're in love with the reflection.
They're fascinated.
Right.
You know, they're just fascinated.
They just and we just get conditioned.
So

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This is so good what you're talking about because you're breaking free from conditioningand you know people will say to me you must have so much willpower because I'm 58 I'm
healthier, happier, stronger than I've ever been in my entire life.
I'm healthier and stronger than I was when I was 28, 38, 48 and I want to continue doingthat right.
It's a choice every day.

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Don't always feel like doing it and then you stop and you go OK what do I want?
How do I want to live?
What choices am I going to make?
And people will say, you have so much willpower.
And it's like, it's really not willpower.
It's gratitude of this gift that we have called life and the ability to make choices andthe ability to act on those choices and intentionally decide how we want to live and then

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take that inspired action toward that result.
And then that's just, and then continue to learn, continue to have these conversationswhere we, inspire me, your posts inspire me.
That's why.
You know, when you asked if I would be here, I'm absolutely, I love what you're doing.
You are living this beautiful purpose of helping other people to remember the beauty oflife.

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So you're helping people get out of that programming.
And that's what we're doing is we're reprogramming our minds from how it used to think tohow do we want to think.
And then we get to say that.
And I write about that in my book too, and that reprogram, I mean, I do that in the gymwith people.
So I'm a functional core strength trainer in my personal training part of what I do.

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And it's reprogramming the way that the body is stabilizing itself.
So I help people to release the old programming of how their muscles were working whenthey weren't conscious of using their core as their prime stabilizer.
Maybe they sit all day long, they've lost their core strength.

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know, pregnancies, just standing up all the time or sitting down all the time.
And then we learn to bend over as we get older instead of squatting, because babies, whatdo they do?
They squat.
Babies are always in a deep squat position.
You know, they sit there and they, remember my kids doing that.
They sit in a squat and they play that way.

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And then they stand up.
They sit and squat, you know, hundreds of times a day once they can stand.
And then we stop doing that when we learn to bend over and then we sit and our wholemusculoskeletal support changes in the way that our body is using the muscles to support
our spine.
So as a core strength trainer, I'm helping people to reprogram.

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And it's not just do this exercise.
It's this is what you're focusing on.
This is what you're thinking about.
You're engaging the muscle here.
Connect this with your breath.
We're using transverse abdominus.
We're keeping our shoulders down, releasing the trapezius, and now we're going to focus onthat as our prime core stabilizer, which is protecting our lumbar spine, protecting our

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whole spine, supporting, and it adds that correct stabilization so that the secondarymuscles that are trying to stabilize get to go back to where they're supposed to be.
So reprogramming the way that the body is meant to function from a musculoskeletal.
way and then that can relieve a lot.
So a lot of times, know, clients will come to me after they're done with their physicaltherapy because now we're reprogramming the muscles to back to a balanced state.

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And so we're doing that in every area of our life.
So instead of just going to the grocery store and throwing the things in the cart thatwe've eaten our entire lives, right?
And maybe we don't even know why we've never questioned it.
We never thought it should be different or could be different.
And then we have awareness.
And we have the clarity in that moment of maybe I'll just look at the ingredients.

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Maybe there's a better option here that isn't going to be an inflammatory thing for thebody.
Maybe there's something healthier I can choose.
And then that awareness gives us the opportunity to make that choice.
And then now we're opened up to a whole new world of learning about how to eat healthierso that we're putting things in our body that's gonna help our body and not create a

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challenge for the body in what's actually going in there.
and then that makes a positive change too.
I got a question for you then.
How long does it take to reprogram a person that hasn't, you know, they might've had it 20years ago, but they forgot about it and now they're trying to reprogram.

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I mean, I know it'd be while, but I mean, it's interesting to me the reprogramming, causeI have, I'll be honest, I'm, I probably,
I'm reprogramming myself more in the eating part right now than I am physically.

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I, figure I can physically, I'm not afraid to do with the stuff I want to do.
Cause I do go for my walks.
I'll go for hikes and I go do other stuff.
have, we have a little way.
I don't like going to the gym so much as I like, we have stuff downstairs in my basementthat we do.

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Like that stuff.
what I'm saying is, how does it, how do you, how long does it take to reprogram some ofyour clients?
Well, it depends.
mean, it really varies depending on their consistency, how often they're coming to see me,how often they're doing things at home.
That's why I'm so big on reminders.

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I have little sticky notes that remind of, have a three step core connection exercise thatI do with everybody in the beginning.
And then before we do any exercise, before we do anything, we do that three step coreconnection.
to reposition, not reposition, to reengage the correct stabilization of the primary coremuscles that are supposed to be the deepest, yes, the powerhouse, right?

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It's what's really supporting the spine.
Too many times we're like this, our phones are here, our computers are here, we becomerounded, we lose that core strength that's allowing us to be in this position.
So better posture, better balance, better center of gravity.
The most important part
is that protection of the lumbar spine, which can become vulnerable when we're alwaysrounded like this, because we don't have the right muscles protecting.

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And so we're leaving it vulnerable to injury or spinal issues like disc problems or thingslike that.
And then we don't want to fall, right?
So what's somebody's biggest concern when they get older is you don't want to fall.
So the better balance you have, the better core strength you have, the stronger you arethat way, you're less likely to flail if you do slip or you miss that bottom stair, all of

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those scenarios that we all know.
And so that's what I love to help in the gym part of it.
So how long does it take?
It depends on the person, how consistent they are and how aware and conscious they are ofcontinuing that process.
Because it can't just be an hour a week in the gym with me and then, you know, it's likeyou can't just brush your teeth once a week.
You can't just, right?

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This is, that's why I love that it's every single day we get the opportunity to continuedown whichever road we choose and that's a choice.
And so, and then take that awareness.
into every aspect of our wellness.
So I have this, and I didn't come up with this.

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I call it the whole life wellness wheel.
It's been utilized in all kinds of self-development and lots of different psychology andall types of things.
But you take a circle and I divide it up into eight pieces.
And then each sliver of pie or whatever you want to call it in this circle that you'vedivided up into eight wedges.
has a part of your life, right?

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It's relationships, financial, physical, mental, emotional, environmental, all of these,like I talk about the wellness picture.
And I wanna say this too before I finish this.
This is not about always making the perfect choices.
There's no such thing.
So let's just let that go right now.
We're human beings, sometimes we're going, right?

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People will, they say, it's overwhelming.
How are you so, it's not willpower.
It's just deciding how I want to live and I'm making this choice.
And if we do something, eat something or say something or we have a bad experience or afight with somebody, take that moment and just let it go.

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Make amends if you need to.
you know, if it's a meal or whatever it is, people beat themselves up for things.
Don't take that into the next day.
Don't even take it into the next hour.
Let it go.
Forgive yourself.
Stay focused on what you want and most importantly, why you want it.
So in every area of life we get to have, and I take people through, I have a small onlinegroup and we started that way.

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We go through that wellness wheel and we look at every area.
And the first thing I say is this is not judgment.
This is not for you to judge yourself.
This is for non-judgmental, non-reactive awareness.
Because if we don't have awareness of where we are, we're not going to know the next stepto take, right?
Like if you ask GPS to get you to a certain location, but it doesn't know where you are,you're going to spin around.

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Because we don't know where we're starting from.
that, to me, especially with women, a lot of times is the hardest part, because they're sohard on themselves.
We are.
And well, I think all of us are.
I think maybe we're just more vocal about it.
I don't know.
But I just really want to give everybody just the permission to know that nobody is everdoing everything.

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There's no such thing as perfect.
Air quotes around perfect.
Because it's just a word that is not even in reality.
We're all doing the best we can.
And we all get the beautiful gift of a choice.
And that is really, I think, what to focus on.
Because what do we want but the most important thing that's going to keep, this is whatkeeps people
consistent.
This is what's kept me consistent.

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It's not willpower.
It's not I'm powering over my, Like it's not that.
It's I made a choice that I let go of what wasn't working.
And I was so curious about how I could feel better, live better, be a better mother, moreenergetic and help my body heal and continue that.
And that's every single day.

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But it's not the willpower thing or I have to do this or...
You know, I start on Monday.
It's it's just why OK, so what do I want?
But the most important thing is why do I want it?
So when I take people through the questionnaire when I first start, it's like, you know,why is this the time you're ready to start this or why is this the time you want this

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goal?
What's your goal?
What do you want?
What's your goal?
What's your timeline?
You know, then we reverse engineer the action step it takes to get there.
Just very logically, right?
Putting those pieces in place, those puzzle pieces I talked about.
But then I say, here's the very important question.
Why do you want it?
Well, I want to be healthy.
Everybody does.
Why do you want to be healthy?
Well, I want to be strong.

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I want to be able to, why do you want that?
Why do you want to be able to hike to the top of the mountain all your life?
Why do you want to be playing with your, like, why do you want that?
Because you really want to be able to give back to your family and the world and your soulwants so much to live out its purpose.
And so you want that ultimate fulfillment of knowing that you were able to do everythingyou came here to do.

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And it's usually family, loved ones, a deep, compassionate purpose and a passion for whatyou want to give back in this world.
Well, I like that you say why, because when you ask a question back, then people have tothink about an answer.
And people don't like to think about answers.

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It's like we were talking, it's like we were talking a little bit earlier before we gotonline.
It's about like, I'm getting very interested in the functional medicine because I want toget to the root cause.
I don't want to fix a symptom.
I don't want a pill to fix a symptom.
because that's not what I want.

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I like also what you were saying, and I'll probably come back to the functional stuff, butI also like what you were saying because I'm a hunter and we eat lot of, 90 % of our meat
is what I've, I have hunted for my year.
That's normally what we eat.
So I know that part where that meat came from.

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And now I'm starting and I have a hippie wife who I'm eating more whole foods.
Okay.
And, and, and here's the, here's the other thing, but though, when, hunting season comesaround and I'm making a quick trip somewhere or whatever, and you're driving down the road
to go somewhere or whatever, it's easy to go into a convenience store and buy a Coke.

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Or it's easier to go do this and that.
And if you don't give yourself grace and for
this kind of stuff, you you still have to enjoy life.
I don't want to live a long life.
I want to live a good life.
grace is a good life.
mean, you can, here's where we're, it's funny, these things just pop into my head, butwhen I was talking about, I don't want to fix the symptoms, that's what we do when 90 % of

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the time, if we don't find the root cause,
of a health problem, we are just fixing that little problem.
And you're not living that you're, could live a long life because you're taking all thesefricking pills.
And, and I've, I don't want to have to do that.
And I'd rather live, I'd rather climb that mountain.
Here's my problem with climbing the mountain though, is I climbed to the mountain.

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Then I wonder what's on the other, what's over on the other side of that other mountain,the heel side.
And you just keep on going.
And, but that's not a problem because.
It just keeps me moving.
And here's a why.
Why do I want to climb to the top of, I have this, I like to climb before sunrise.

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I like to get to the top of the mountain and see the candy, the cotton candy skies.
I like to see the sun come up in the morning.
But do you know when you said why, why do I do that?
Well, I was thinking to myself, it's because
Have you ever, anybody out there listening to this can think about this, but nobody knowswhat the world, what the sky is going to unwrap for us every morning.

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Nobody knows what this is going to look like.
I've climbed, I've climbed in the clouds and came out and there's a beautiful sunrise.
I climbed when I thought this, I've seen stars and you don't really watch this, the skyand the clouds came in.
I've climbed and it got above a rainbow.
You know, I mean, you, you never know what you're going to see.

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That's why I climb because there's always a surprise for you.
And it's, it's fun to be surprised in that.
And when nature can surprise you, that's what keeps me going.
And life.
Yes.
And we forget that we're here to be happy too.

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We do.
I think as humans, we forget, you know, we're so used to all the things we have to do,accomplish, you know, and people get to the end of their lives and they forgot to enjoy
their life.
Right?
And so
Then, you know, oftentimes if someone gets to the end of their life and they've forgotten,they've been so focused on, you know, whatever it was that they thought was important.

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And no judgment there, everybody's different, right?
But if we forget to take care of ourselves and we forget to enjoy ourselves, you could beliving your entire life in a physical fight or flight, stressed out way, thinking that
you're reaching some
thing that you think is important or your parents thought was important or your job orwhatever, right?

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But you're doing something that's bringing you joy and that is a healthy activity for you.
So when we talk about wellness, that is a really great wellness practice for you.
It brings you joy, which helps your body to be in a state of repair and renewal instead offight or flight.

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Right?
So we have parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system.
And that sympathetic nervous system is really damaging to the body because it's stresshormones, which are inflammatory.
And so, you know, exercise helps to relieve that, making sure we have enough hydration tobe able to detox and our circulation and our digestion, our lymphatic flow, and all of

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those things are working so that the body can, you know, can detox from those types ofinflammatory
negative hormones, right?
Because fight or flight is cortisol and adrenaline and cortisol is, it has its place.
But when we are constantly stressed and constantly upset and constantly striving andconstantly, you know, not happy or allowing ourselves what you're allowing yourself,

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you're in a state of inflammation and inflammation at the chronic level is the root causeof every disease process.
So to get to the root cause,
you've got to get to the contributors of that inflammation.
And I look at it as a formula.
So what are the three main contributors I write about in my book of inflammation?
Acidity, too much, acidosis, you've probably heard of metabolic acidosis.

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That's when it gets so bad that you are, you know, that's clearly close to death.
You don't want that.
Your body will do everything it can to avoid metabolic acidosis.
So it's always trying to balance.
the blood pH and the rest of the body and the systems and all the functions.
So it has neutralizing balances, it has compensatory balances for deficiencies, thingslike that, that are always going on behind the scenes.

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So how much of what we're doing is creating acidosis?
Let's reduce that.
So acidosis oxidation, which is free radical damage.
So if you've heard of antioxidants, we need antioxidants.
You said you take supplements, probably know to eat.
Your wife is probably helping you to remember to eat berries, blueberries, greens.

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Yeah.
they're full of so many, so many beautiful polyphenols and antioxidants.
So that's awesome.
So we need antioxidants because oxidation, which is part of why I really liked your title,Don't Die Rusty, because oxidation is like rust on a car, right?
It is eating away.

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at that metal, it's when you cut an apple in half and it turns brown, that's oxidation.
So we do not want oxidation in abundance in our body.
We want free radicals.
You get your bare feet in the dirt, in the sand, your body's absorbing antioxidants fromthe earth.
You consume nutritional antioxidants.
There's water that has antioxidant naturally.

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It mimics the stream on the beautiful mountain that's unpolluted.
That's something I believe in 100%.
We get our antioxidants to reduce oxidation.
So acidosis, oxidation and dehydration, I think are the three biggest contributors toinflammation.
When we can take a formula and we don't like that sum total, we reduce the contributors.

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Like that's a logical way to go, okay, let's reduce acidosis through what we're doing,eating, drinking, thinking, what we're putting on our skin, what we're breathing in.
What are the cleaners in our home?
What are we using that are absorbing into our body through our lungs and our skin?
What personal care products are we using?
Makeup, hair, showering, and what's the water that we're showering in?

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That's absorbing.
Are they creating acidity and oxidation, or are they actually giving our body healthfulnutrients so that we're not causing our body a challenge?
So that's one of the contributors.
Oxidation, are we getting in enough antioxidants?
Are we in a stressed out state all the time because cortisol is causing acidity?

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to the body at a level that the body is really struggling to balance.
So I love to talk about that because then, so people will go, well, what do I do?
I don't even know where to start.
You know, we start by just having awareness that maybe we're not completely happy withwhere we are.
If we are, great.
Find out what you're doing in that area where you feel like you're thriving and then applythose same tools, those same mindset tools

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discipline tools, inspired action steps into the next, right?
Because some of us have two or three of those wedges like dialed in on our life circle.
Some of them are like, we got this going on, but man, we're a mess over here, right?
And again, it's not about judgment.
It's about, well, if I can do it over here, I can do it over here too.

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And it's not gonna happen overnight.
And it's not about making some big change and some big giant leap.
It's those incremental little changes every single day.
That's why this is a life's journey.
That's why it's such a gift because every day we get up and we get to decide, you know, todo something better.
What does Jim Rohn say?

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don't wish it was easier.
Decide to be better.
There you go.
Jim Rohn, I love that.
Yeah.
Cause here's a funny thing.
Cause you're talking, what you were talking about is in the oxidation part.
And where do we start?

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I had a friend on Jordan Harbertson and he talked about, are, when you are driving downthe road and you see an old vehicle out in the pasture or in a field or in a line of cars
in,
Somebody can see that and they can, it's their project to make it, they can see it andmake it better.

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They can revive that old car.
So when we look at ourselves, when you're talking about where like oxidation can make yourusty.
So we can be tarnished, but the project can be us and
And he talked about also as us being our own project, we can start shining our own chrome.

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We can start making ourself that project and we can make ourself that better person bybeing healthier in that aspect.
So the oxidation starts leaving us.
that's like you said, that's wellness, that's mental, that's all kinds of stuff.
The whole life, the whole life.
Whole life and we need to look at things.

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I like the barefoot thing too because how many people these days I Here's the funny thing.
I lived in Australia For a year and I've been back.
I went back a few other about four other times after that, but here's the deal I I where Ilived when I went back I Was a barefoot probably 50 % of the time walking because I lived

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where I was staying was close to the beach
awesome.
so I'd walk down there barefoot.
I'd walk everywhere barefoot except when it was really hot out, of course you'd be hoppingaround.
So you needed shoes on.
But what I'm saying is how many people walk in the grass barefoot?
How good does that feel when you, even if you're in sandals, how good does that feel inthe summer to walk in a green grass and feel it between your toes or in the sand?

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How many people just
don't realize that they're in taking this like they cover up their feet on the beach orwith sand or they do, you know, they don't feel how, what it's really doing for them
because it's also a mental as well as physical thing too.
And we need to also look at, here's, I'm using this as an example, but when you are tryingto do something, we gotta realize that sometimes

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the good times will turn into a bad time.
In this aspect where I'm going is this, we might think that going out with our friendswhen we're 20, 25 and we drink a little too much and this and that, that was a good time.
But then you wake up in the morning and you have a hangover, that's a bad time.

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But you can also look at the bad time as a good time because I couldn't go on that.
Out with the people that were going out and now I don't have a hangover and I get to enjoythe day.
So we have to put things in perspectives of where do we want to go to in some aspectsbecause some people don't realize like some people think they missed out on something, but

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actually you gained a good thing by not being able to do that.
And I know I went off track here, but I wrote that it was somewhere in our discussionhere.
You know,
Yeah.
So we need to realize that life is good times and bad times and you don't know if one ofthose is gonna go in those direction is what I was trying to get at.

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But I loved all that stuff in the, I love the, I love how you are telling about the threethings and how we can improve ourselves.
that, like, I don't know when it, I just don't.
Sometimes I get, I don't wanna say preachy, but I probably am preachy with some people.

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Like, you can do this if you would make that decision, but you gotta make that consciouschoice.
And you can't keep on using other things as excuses.
can't, I mean, I said that earlier in one podcast, I gave myself permission and I gavemyself.

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Excuses not to go do things when I should have been doing them and it dragged me itdrugged me down Mentally it drugged me down physically.
Yes.
I was still moving but I wasn't doing it to the extent where I was feeling good and Whenyou gotta start mentally saying this is I feel good and I I I Wake up at 430 445 somewhere

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that every morning
I don't push snooze.
Never push snooze.
You get your butt out of bed right then.
And then people say, how do you do that?
Yeah, and I get up and then I do what I need to do.

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I mean, go to the bathroom, get ready and I go out for my walk.
But you know what?
It's not, we need to get into the mindset
that I'm gonna miss it somewhat.
This is my mindset is if I don't do it, I'm gonna miss it.
And then I'll miss it all day if I wouldn't do it.

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So get out there and do it.
And that's with everything.
I'm not telling you, on everything I say is you do what makes you happy, but there's adifference between happiness and joy.
Because joy is fulfilling.
Yes.
Happiness can make you, and then I can't think of the other, there's three.

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One is fleeting, happiness can stay with you a while, but joy will fulfill you.
know, things can make you happy, you know, I mean, I told you earlier, I'll make a jokeabout this, but happiness can be, you can be happy on your wedding day, but you.

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might find peace after you got divorced, I'm saying in a long run, you know what I mean.
you know what I mean.
But I'm happy now because I have a very good wife that keeps me and I have peace.
But yes, one thing about life is if you don't have peace, then you will never fix yourselfanyway, because you're always searching to find that pill that will give you peace.

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And the peace is the root of the problem.
That's right.
comes from straight in your heart and your mind.
And you can only get better with that.
And I'm probably rambling here, but I just look at things and I look at people and I say,if you would make one good decision here, your life would change.

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I have been lucky enough probably, I would say.
maybe two or three people that I have seen them make the right decision in their life andstart turning things around.
And we had an episode about integrity and other things about three episodes, four episodesago.

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what we were getting at was, you know,
Sometimes you don't know when that person comes into your life and you flick on thatswitch and you make the first good decision.
You may never know that at that time.

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And you might get three or four years down the road and then you can look if you...
Because here's a problem with a lot of people these days is they don't lookintrospectively.
They will not look within themselves to say, is, I need to do this.
It's everybody else's fault.
But I'm saying when you make the right decision and you start changing that, it might be aslow hill to climb, but when you start climbing that hill to make yourself better, and you

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can look back and you can say, because I've had a few people come and say that, and I'vetold a few people that have helped me make the right decision, thank you.
And when you can tell that person, thank you, I didn't know it at the time, but youstarted changing my life.
That's awesome.
you know, those are the things that people need to look at too, by making the rightchoices.

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I guess I'm trying to say, because tell that person someday that they have influenced youor I have influenced, you know, I, there is nothing better than gratitude.
And for people to see things like I'm a, I'm
I'm a yard manager at a store here and I tell all my guys mostly every day, thank you forsomething they did because other people don't see that.

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I tell people, thank you for, if you can just say that word, a lot of people can't saythat word.
Say thank you.
And then things might be start changing.
And I love, I love
where we've been here on this episode and, and we really didn't even get into wellness.

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I don't know.
there's so much to talk about.
There's yeah, we kind of touched on but again, it's such a vast topic and it involvesthat's why I call it whole life wellness because it's not just one part of our life.
It's not just physical everything affects everything else.
Our mental state or emotional state can be affected by our physical health and ourphysical health can be affected by our mental emotional state.

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Financial stress can cause so much stress that it affects our physical.
Stress can cause physical illness.
It's just all connected.
And so that's why it's so important to just have the awareness of where am I?
And am I happy with my life?
Am I fulfilled with my life?
What would I like to be different?
And like to your point again, a lot of people are afraid to ask that question because theyfeel like maybe they did something wrong or and nobody, everyone's doing the best they can

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at the level of awareness they have at the time.
Those are the decisions they're making.
So back to where we started kind of is where are we in a subconscious state of reactiveliving or are we in a conscious state of proactively making our choices based on what we
want?
And then that takes being able to look at, you know, what are the decisions I'm making?

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What are the things I'm eating, drinking?
I always talk about wellness from the inside out.
We get to rebuild it from the inside out and the foundation up anytime we want to.
And then we stay consistent.
So when you ask me, how long does it take to reprogram?
That depends on the person.
It depends on how consistent they are, how open they are, how much they want, what it isthat they want and why they want it, whatever that is in their life.

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And then they get to determine how fast that happens or how fully that happens.
Right?
good, yes, because here's one thing, you know, here's one thing that I think a lot ofpeople that they might want to change, but they don't want to ask the questions because

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they're embarrassed.
Don't be embarrassed about asking questions about making yourself feel better, thinkbetter.
I mean, when I talk about mental health wise, feel better, think better, and just changeto make
some really good choices about living your best life.
Cause there is nothing better out there than to smile and to say, you know what, I wish Iwould have done this 20 years ago, but you know what, you and I, like we said, we're 58,

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50, going to be 57 for me.
You know, I'm hoping to be like doing this stuff at a hundred.
You know what I mean?
I saw an 80 year old guy.
jump off a cliff the other day and I'm thinking that's where I wanna be someday, you know?
And there's another example of my dad walks four miles a day, well three to four miles aday at 81.

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And so I have one question for you, well I have two questions for you before we end this,because I know it's a Friday night and I know that you probably have things going on and
I'll try.
The first question I wanna ask you is, I hope you will come back on again so we haveanother great conversation, because it makes me smile to have such great conversations.

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I told my wife, said, you know what, I miss college in some aspects because of theconversations that were had in classes, but now I'm podcasting, so I get to have great
conversations and don't have to pay for it.
So that's all, and plus.
Plus I think sometimes I talk to the right people and I get three or four credits out ofthis too, you know, so that's good.

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So I would, I would, this has been such a wonderful conversation and I'm so happy that yousaid yes.
And.
for having me.
I'm so happy that you asked and I've had a blast.
And the last question we always ask are always asked on this is what's the good life toLori Ellis.

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What's the, say that again, the good life?
What's the good life?
My family is my why.
They say, and it'll bring tears to my eyes, they say when your why makes you cry, you knowit's your why, right?
It's your deepest reason.

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My family, my kids, my granddaughter.
So when I...
can be there for them and I can show up authentically in my life and what I feel my soul'spurpose is to share with the world.
And then when I can be the best me I can be, which I bring up your, this is a long answer,which I never have short answers because there's just so much that goes with it.

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But when like when you say walk into the top of the mountain, it brings you joy.
That's you investing in yourself.
You are now, you now have more to give to
whatever you feel your why is, right?
So by doing what I feel I'm doing to help the world and the purpose that I have in theseason of my life now, that's investing in me, investing in my health and my wellness,

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keeping myself strong and healthy and well is giving me more to give to my kids and behere for my granddaughter in a way that I want to be.
So the best life for me is feeling generous, fulfilled.
allowing myself to receive what I need to receive in order to give what I want to give andbe there for the people I love and be able to consistently do that.

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I don't want to be a burden to anyone at the end of my life.
I don't want to struggle or be on medications or worried about immobility.
So these are practical physical things that I invest in today so that I can live that, youknow, tomorrow and 30 years from now.
And it all comes back to my deepest why my best life is doing all I can for the peoplethat I love and leaving a positive impact for them and for all of the other passions in my

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life that I feel, you know, are mine to contribute to in the way that I can.
Everybody's different, right?
So we're so busy comparing, I think so many times the human condition likes to compare andcompete.
in contrast.
But the soul just wants to give what it came here to give.
And so when you said people struggle to change, that's the human condition.

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When we let go of the ego and the human condition and we go back to our heart, because youhave your, you are Rick Hansen.
You came here to do what you came here to do and it's different than somebody else, right?
And so everybody gets to go out and give their unique talents and gifts to the world.
So taking care of ourselves so that we have that to give.

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super important.
But yeah, my best life is being able to be here for my family and continue to enjoy mylife with my family, my loved ones, and be well enough to do it and give back the way I
came here to give and make sure I give everything I possibly can for that ultimatefulfillment in the way that I'm supposed to.

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Well, I love hearing that.
That is, that is wonderful.
And I agree with you on, I've always said we should never pigeonhole ourself by labels.
You're Laurie Ellis, I'm Rick Hansen.
That's our label.
We are so many different people and we have so many, we have so many different things thatmake us who we are that you can't say you're this or that.

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This is who we are.
And don't let anybody tell you who you're supposed to.
Can I read one thing from the back of my book real quick?
Well, wanted that you tell us what your book is and tell them where they can find it too.
Yeah, so I OK, so I wrote this back in 2017.
Didn't ever release it, published it, but then pulled it from publication.

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Didn't ever promote it.
It's going through a little bit of a reedit.
There was something that needed to be added.
It's not changed, just adding it.
There's a whole story about how I got the forward written by Jack Canfield.
I'll tell you that in the next episode.
That was a really fun.
I don't know if you know who he is.
If you're in self development, you do.
But I just want to read this because it really just kind of is a good thing for what wejust talked about.

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When you let go of everything the world is telling you you're supposed to be, you'll findthe freedom of knowing who you really are.
And that's when you can give your best gifts to your life.
Well, I love that.
So that.
that you're unique for a reason, no one's better than worse than we're all living our ownjourney doing the best we can.
And our gift is to be able to get up and get to do the best we can every day.

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Be curious, ask questions, make better choices, live our best life, create the life wewant to live for the purpose of our why your own why what that is to you is important.
Well, thank you.
And you know what?
I found a why in the universe and I found you to be able to have this great conversationwith.

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that is so, you know, how I am so energized right now because of this conversation and itmakes me feel good to know that there are so many good people out in this world and you're
one of them.
So yeah.
I've had such a fun time.

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And you also made me feel very happy that we're going to have another episode againsomeday.
hopefully, hopefully in the next couple of months.
So that would be awesome.
And I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show and.
And keeping tabs on each other and whatever we can do for you will is awesome.

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I mean, because you're awesome.
And so.
Anyway, I'll end the episode so you can enjoy your Friday night and hopefully you see meon a mountain in the morning and we'll see what happens.
all right.
All right.

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Yep, Don't Rusty Nation.
Keep chasing your dreams, being the best you and of course, don't die rusty.

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