DDR 059 - Rick and Ricky Catch Up - Don't Die Rusty Podcast

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Well, hello, don't die rusty nation.
Now I'm kick kicking it there with a cutting out chef.
I can tell that right there.
Anyway, the I'm better now as my not.
No, you're good, but your wind.
Barrier thing is coming off.

(00:28):
There go.
There you go.
Yeah.
Your level.
There.
Perfect.
can you.
Great.
It's driving me nuts here.
All right.
One, two, Hello, Don't Die Rusty Nation.
I am here tonight with, this is Rick Hansen, and guess who I'm with tonight?
But none other than Ricky Brule, who has been hiding, or I don't know, no, actually he'snot been hiding.

(00:56):
He has become a movie star on me.
And so I guess I'm kinda being left out here, you know, in the dirt and the dust, but.
We'll see what happens tonight, you know?
I thought we'll just catch up with Ricky here.
You know, if you want to see him, you can go watch what show was that?

(01:19):
It was like Gone with the Wind.
Yeah, yeah, it's gone with the wind.
I've sport a really cool mustache and some some old clothes from like the 1800s.
Alright!

(01:40):
Yeah, no, it's good to be, it's good to be back.
I'm really excited actually.
It's, it has been way too long.
I've missed the conversations and yeah, life, life just got busy and then, you know, anopportunity had come about that we had talked about last spring and it kind of blew up
into something much bigger than we ever could have possibly anticipated.

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And, know, in the beginning it was just going to be I'm going on a hunt and hey, let's geta camera.
Follow me around.
And then it turned into a videographer and a photographer and then a bunch of sponsors.
And so it kind of went nuts.
But in any case, that's actually only been a small portion of what's been going on, mostof most of which has been stuff through Vapor Trail.
We just moved to a new location.

(02:24):
It was just crazy getting our pro shop going.
That was like six months, I think, from beginning to end.
We're finally.
locked in on that and finally done with that.
then, know, family stuff, of course.
But but yeah, it's really good to be back.
And yeah, I was just I was over here with FOMO watching you take the take the helm onDon't Die Rusty and just thinking, man, I just I love it, though.

(02:48):
I mean, it's it's been fantastic to watch you take the reins and really just, you know,bring Don't Die Rusty into the world and and push it forward and keep keep it moving.
So.
Great job with that.
It's been fun to watch and I'm glad to be back and hopefully I can jump in some moreepisodes here from time to time.

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Well, I do too, you know, it's, it's, it's been, it's been a long road here since you'vebeen gone, but I've had some, I mean, you do the, you've been doing the, some of the
backside stuff.
So you hear what's going on and you see what's going on.
But, these conversations that I've been lucky enough to have, I sometimes, I mean, we'vetalked about this in before and in

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You don't know how they affect you until you have that conversation.
the crazy thing is, the crazy thing is we've had conversations right now.
I was just actually watching.
We've, we've had some interesting conversations with some people like Lori Ellis.

(04:02):
I was supposed to have a conversation with her about other things.
which we will have to have another one.
Cause you just get talking, you know, you know how you talk to me and, yeah, we get, weget off track, but it really wasn't off track.
It was, it was more.
I thought that one was inspirational.

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mean, I'm not, this isn't a recap of things, but it's interesting because, we've done alot.
I've had some great conversations, I guess, you know, and.
for you not to be a part of them is you know I mean but we've got to we keep on moving thedoor dry Steve needle forward anyway.

(04:45):
Yeah, and I mean, and you and part of the we kind of talked about this in the beginningwhen when we got started.
And I remember telling you one of the one of the more difficult things and frustratingthings about running a podcast is scheduling of guests and then, you know, finding trying
to get everything to come together.
You know, the more guests that you have or the more people that you have on the show, themore intricacies there are when it comes to getting everybody on the same page and getting

(05:13):
everybody at the same time.
And it's, it's a, it's a major, it's tough, you know?
And then again, like for me, you know, I can't record until a little bit later and thenI'm central and you're in, you know, you're in a different time zone as well.
And so there's some of those things that make it somewhat difficult.
And so, you know, it was getting kind of, kind of hard for us to come together with someof these guests.

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Cause you know, you get some people that are on the East coast that, you know, by the timewe can record it's nine 30 their time.
you know, for me to be on an episode.
it got really difficult to do that.
And so, you know, it helped.
feel like it helped in the respect that, you know, you were more available.
Your times to record were were more readily available for your guests.

(05:59):
And so I'm certain that that helped out quite a bit.
You know, I did so many different conversations that would have been great to be a partof, you know.
But again, it's just it's just the way that it is.
Right.
And.
You know, I really identified with that episode that you put out about getting the funkout because I was really, really feeling it at the same time.

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And, you know, I wish I could have been part of some of those conversations with you, youknow, just to kind of relate a little bit, you know, the the winter blues, man, they hit
you and it's, you know, it's tough to kind of get out of it, you know, and you need tohave those people around you to help you get through it, you know.
So, you know, and then just conversations, you know.

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Paul Lynn, Joe Ernst, Justin Nalt.
He's an interesting individual too.
It would have been great to have a conversation with him.
know, of course, Matt Frey, me and him, we go way, we go way back and you know, some ofthe more recent ones, of course, Mr.
or Dr.
Ray Johnson, sorry, Dr.
Ray Jensen, you know, just a great guy all around, you know, would have been great to havea conversation with him again.

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And, and I always love having conversations with Kelly.
I mean, he's so just
well spoken and just articulate, you know?
And so like, I feel like, you know, I gain a lot from having conversations with him too.
So I really have missed out a lot.
And you and I haven't had a lot of time to even really chat and connect even outside ofany of this.

(07:30):
So it's again, it's really good to be back.
I'm really excited and we'll just keep pushing this thing forward, man.
Yeah.
And I also wanted to get, you know, I mean, we've been able to have those otherconversations with like Kyle Kraft is now he's in the lead in the Baja stuff.

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And it is amazing to watch and to think that we've got to have an opportunity and we mighthave to have him on here.
I just saw you won another race and as navigator, but it's fun to see that stuff.
And then we got, Emily just got second in Spain and
And I'm going to go out there and watch the Western States and, Lindsay.

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It's all been good, but here we'll get to, you know, when we were talking about the funkand I think I'm going to, I try to be this open book.
And cause I really have nothing to hide, but I want to bring things to light for anybodyout there.

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But on Wednesday.
I went and saw a functional doctor and I'm going to have some blood tests done and thenwe're going to decide, you know, am I low on this or how to eat a little bit better or
whatever I need to do to be, because I feel that I'm three quarters of the Rick that Ishould be, if not a little less, you know, and I'm hoping that

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this will help me because I think I want to get to the root of problem.
We've talked about that before and so I'm debating and I'm also debating, I'm working onthe doctor that I went and saw and said, you know what, why don't you come on?
And I think she's going to, I think she's thinking about it because here's the deal, youknow, I we are living, I see a problem with

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You know, I am not the only one you you're talking about this winter funk.
And I've never talked to so many people that have had this, like, they're just tired andthey're just stressed and they're just, it's, they're not the normal, they're normal
cells.
And, and it's interesting in, Cindy knows me enough that when I said, I don't feel normal.

(10:05):
And people will probably that know me will probably say you've never been normal, but youknow, but health wise, health wise though, I, I just felt I lost the wheel or the energy
or I don't know what it was.
And I'm trying to find this out.
And, and I think, and I'm not saying everybody has to go to a functional doctor and I'mnot saying everybody, you got to make the decisions for yourself, but I want to give

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people.
an option and so I'm you know when I after I get these blood tests done I'm going to goback and see her of course and I'm I hope she will come on so we can I don't want people
to fear I want people to look at things and say you know what because here's the dealother deal we talked about when I went to the functional doctor and we'll get going on

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other things but most people that go to the regular doctor
have something wrong with them.
They're all trying to find, everybody wants that pill to get better.
They don't want to find the root of the problem.
And the doctor will give them a pill and they'll get, they'll, the symptom will feelbetter, but the root of the problem isn't better to me.

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This is my opinion.
And I just want to show that yes, there's options.
You got to go through the gamut of things to make me feel
better, but I want to be optimal.
I don't want to be just the average.
don't, you're getting old, you're going to die.
I want to live.

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I want to come out of this life.
Just like my body better be like a train wreck when I get done here, because you in theaspect of, want to, I only have this one body.
I want to take care of it.
But what I'm saying about it is
When I get to 80, 90 years old, want to, it's going to not be rusty, but it will be woreout, you I do.

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and battered.
know, you got to be, you know, if you if you come rolling into the grave all polished andshiny, then I don't know, did you use it?
Exactly.
You know, and so, so those are the things that I'm, but I want to bring light to it.
don't, and if it, you know, I mean, this is a lot of people are starting to findfunctional medicine, but I'm just, I'm just saying, you know, I mean, I've had those

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conversations with Dr.
Jensen, like we talked about in the last episode.
And I do think there's a medical pharma machine out there and I just want to try to fixmyself somehow.
you know, differently.
So.
specifically what does a functional doctor do?

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Well, we talked, I mean, this is no HIPAA, because this is RICA.
you know, but, you know, we talked about what I, how I ate.
We talked about medical histories.
We talked about sleep.
We talked about like, as we grow older and you, that was also in Justin Nault's, as wegrow older, it's not, I want to,

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My testosterone levels right now are low, if you were going to a medical doctor, they'restill in the green, okay?
But they could be higher, which helps with health.
It helps with your mind.
It helps with your health.
I'm not trying to become Arnold Schwarzenegger at 57.

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This isn't what it's about.
It's about...
being optimal, I wanna be able to do the things and have the energy and the mental clarityto go do the things I wanna do.
the functional doctor, like she was looking at my, my, like I had some blood tests donebefore because I had a physical earlier this year.

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but then we went into some different blood tests that I gotta do.
And then we will figure out if she, like if I need.
testosterone if I need to worry about a thyroid problem, you know that that kind of stuffwe look into like she was happy, you know about some of the stuff that I eat and she was

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unhappy with some of the other stuff I eat, but you know, I mean, I told her I'm not goingto stop living, but you know, I'm you know me.
I mean, yes, we go out and have a bull rider when we see each other maybe, but
I'm not the drinker anyway, you know, and I'm, and I told her also, said, you know, when Itell myself to quit doing something, I I'm going less than moderation actually with like a

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Coke or Mountain Dew.
I may drink it when I go out to eat, but
I'm not, there's none in the house.
And so what I'm saying is I've limited that.
I'm probably sugar as best as possible.

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You know, I'm trying to, I'm just trying, and I'm not saying I'm eliminating it.
I'm saying I'm limiting it.
And I'm not 25 anymore.
can't.
live on junk food and all that stuff.

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And, but I want, and it's not that I want to live longer.
I want to live better.
You know what I mean?
And it's interesting to me because...
I, I, I've, and I've been reading other books, but we'll get to the functional.
It's the functional part though is so we're going to go through my blood tests and we'lldetermine what I need.

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I, I'm, I'm thinking about this, Ricky, and you can say this while we're on, but I, shecomes on and we talk about it, I would like to go, I don't think it's fair to give it.
two weeks and have a podcast about, I'm feeling like wonderful now.
think we get to the end of a month.
Cause I think you in, if whatever I was prescribed, if I start eating, you know, and tellpeople how I feel, but I'm not going to say you need to go do this.

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It's like whatever else, you know, this isn't, this isn't a,
somebody saying you need to go use all this stuff and you'll feel way better.
It's you, I went to a doctor, this is what they told me to eat.
This is what they told me.
And they're really, it was, you know, the interesting thing is, is they're big onhydration, which is amazing to me in some aspects because we had this talk and then I

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don't know, Dr.
Jensen and I have had eight more talks about like,
When we were even maybe a hundred years ago, we didn't eat morning, noon, and night.
You just eat when you're hungry.

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when you're hungry, but today everybody's pushing food and you have your set times.
And it's amazing how the mind goes, cause I used to work with a guy and he could eatsomething and 10 minutes later he felt just wonderful.
I'm saying you didn't even get a digested man.

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But what I'm saying is, we're just looking at things.
I'm trying to get, she said,
You aren't going to believe this, but you know, and I was trying to lose weight and I'velost 10 pounds, but I was doing it and she was happy that I did it.
And, know, I said, I'm not a wrestler.
didn't just go not eat and I lost 10 pounds in two days kind of thing.

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But, know, I mean, we,
We talked about a lot of stuff and it was good.
so I'm gonna keep on trying, but I needed to eat more protein than I was eating.

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And cause I have protein, but you know, I was drinking protein shakes that has more sugarin it than you should.
And I'm not against sugar.
I need something to keep me sweet, but I'm saying that, yeah, she made me happy though,because she said, you know, I said, here's the deal.

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And I'm not a fish eater and I'll eat chicken, but it's not my favorite.
I'm a red meat kind of person.
And she said, that's fine.
Just keep on eating, you know, just eat a little more red meat.
than I was in the old, and I'm not saying I wasn't eating red meat, because I have to haveit every day just about, but what I'm saying is like, was just limiting on a lot of stuff

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thinking I needed to be a vegetarian type, you know, more lettuce and all that kind ofstuff.
Yes, I was eating vegetables and stuff, but you know, I mean.
more than the meat and potatoes person, you know, I was trying just to lose weight andthat was wrong.
And so I'm happy to be back.

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You know, I was eating my, like my red meat mostly at night, but now I'm back to beingable, like not being able to buy immediate net, like lunch, I believe lunch and, and
supper.

(20:36):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I'm just not a big morning breakfast.
I like breakfast at times, but then I'm not going to eat lunch if I have a, if I have thelike a regular breakfast, say pancakes, bacon, whatever.
If you're going to have that kind, I'm not going to eat lunch.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I'm not a big breakfast guy.

(20:57):
You know, I'm typically like kind of on the run anyway.
So I got, you know, grab a protein bar, you know, or some fig bars or something and I'lleat them in the car on my way to work, you know, or whatever.
but yeah, I I'm with you on, know, all those all those kinds of things, you know, as faras like trying to pivot and try to be healthier.

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And and, you know, I know
you mentioned in the last episode with with Lacey and you had listened to the the rangepodcast episode that I did not too long ago and I'm going on today will be 83 days without
alcohol and so the day after a ta show that was it done well and it and again so I havesome NA's and I think they have like 0.05 percent alcohol so I can't say 100 % right but

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And it's been good.
But at the same time, it's one of those deals where part of my motivation was I wanted tofind out if all these people that say it's absolutely amazing or full of shit, you know,
which so there's good things about it.
But then at the same time, it doesn't mean that the the sucky stuff of life doesn't stillcome at you.

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And it's harder to deal with.
It's harder to handle because you have to sit in it and you have to deal with it.
You can't.
You can't just go to grab a shot, to kind of smooth it over or those kinds of things.
I'm not a smoker.
I don't do any of that kind of stuff.
So it's not like I'm going to go smoke a dart and calm down and relax.

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So again, it's one of those things where just trying to kind of figure that out.
You talked about how the sleep is better.
Certainly that is there.
But again, like as far as the way that I feel like when I wake up in the mornings, I'mstill don't just feel like I'm not quite there yet.

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And again, I don't know if it's just because I need to, you know, I plan to continue thison for the foreseeable future.
You know, who knows?
But, you know, I'm feeling like, OK, there's other things that I got to do, right?
Because I'm not bringing in the extra carbohydrates that I would get from having
you know, a beer a night or whatever it may be.

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And so then I replace that with donuts and, you know, other things.
Right.
And so and if I don't, you know, I'm already, you know, a buck fifty, you know, and if Iif I if I'm not bringing something in because I don't have a real strong appetite, I have
a super.

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What's the word I'm looking for?
High metabolism, too.
So I've got to be bringing in calories, you know, otherwise I start looking, you know.
little skin and bones, you know, so it's like, I don't, I do a lot of work.
I do a lot of walking and a lot of moving, but I don't do a lot of heavy lifting oranything like that.
So I'm not building muscle or anything.
but yeah, so I was talking about maybe trying to reduce some of the, you know, some of thecarbohydrates, just because I'm feeling, I feel like maybe it is having effect on my

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joints and things like that.
We talked about that with, with Dr.
Ray Jensen.
And then we also talked to,
Pat McCurry about that too, with, you know, the old traditional carb load diet for, youknow, for marathon runners.
And that's kind of, that's kind of old, more old school thinking now.

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And, they're starting to find out that it certainly has an effect on arthritis and thingsof that nature.
working on that a little bit, but that's a tough one.
It is a tough one.
Like, gosh, people bring donuts in man.
And I'm, I'm, I'm going to, I'm eating two for sure.
You know, maybe not right away, but I'll have one right now.

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And then later on in the afternoon, I'll walk by that box.
I'm like, it's been five, six hours.
I can eat another one, you know?
So it's just.
the water, you know, you said water, right?
Like I heard, you know what they say about statistics, but I heard something the other daywhen they said that if you're not properly hydrated, you lose 20 % of your brain function,

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whatever.
So.
Whether that whether it's 20 percent or five percent or any percent, it doesn't matter.
It makes sense.
Right.
Like if your body's not hydrated, it's not going to perform at its best that you possiblycould.
And so then I'm feeling like, OK, I need to drink more water and you drink more water.
But then it seems like and maybe you can relate to this or you maybe you might get a laughout of this.

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But it seems like.
Every year as I'm getting as I'm getting a little bit older.
I feel like I have to pee like 50 times a day.
Like I have to get up sometimes two, three times a night where now I'm going, geez, do Igot something going on with my prostate?

(25:51):
Do I need to get checked out for that?
What's going on here?
You know, and then I, and then you increase your fluid intake and now it's like, holymackerel, you know?
So, so yeah, you know, just talking about, you know, I don't have the, the crutch anymoreto kind of soothe.
some of the mental things that go on in the day-to-day process and then you start and thenthe physical part of your body and you're probably over there going out what do you know

(26:15):
about that you know I mean we got we're you know 10 years apart but but you know it's justone of those things where you know I think a lot about you know Jared Fonda he was the
founder of Vapor Trail and he he died God rest his soul in his mid-40s

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And that's where I'm at right now, you know, and granted he was, had a lot of stress andhe also was not very healthy.
He was not careful about his health really at all to my knowledge.
And so, you know, I guess with that thought, it's like, okay, well, I got a pretty goodchance to get through my forties, but still I don't, I don't want to take that chance, you

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know, so, and I want to feel good, you know, so.
But I still want to eat ice cream once in a while.
I still want to have that donut once in a while.
So.
And then you're right on the donuts at work, but usually I see them.
This is how I've been getting by sometimes.

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Usually I see them, and I walk in.
Like usually they're in some office, somebody brought something in.
And I'll walk in and then I'll look at it and I'll walk away.
And I'll give it a little time, hoping that people take the glaze, because I...
don't like a chocolate donut.

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Then you walk in there and people have taken every other donut and there's still thatglaze there and then I'll have one.
I just, but like I said, it's not, it's, and then like you said, if you come in theafternoon and there's another one sitting there and it's like, they gone it, but you know.

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That's about living life too, you know, you got to eat the good things.
got to live the good things.
You know, I have the interesting things that, you know, I mean, sometimes like there were,did you hear about the bull rider that, he actually got stepped on his, they stepped on

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the bull stuck, stepped on his neck.
no.
He ran to the ambulance and that's where he died.
But that's where I'm going with, he's 24 years old, he's from Wyoming.
But that's where I'm going, this just happened recently, like last week I think it was,last weekend.
But where I'm going with this is we don't know if it's our time or not.

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So I'm gonna have that donut and I'm gonna, actually I didn't have that donut this week, Iwent and had some ice cream.
Yeah
But, but we don't know.
So we need to, we need to still enjoy life.
And if it's our taste buds that help us enjoy life, then it's our taste buds.
And, and, you know, I mean, I, I'm not saying that I won't have that occasional beer, butI'm not, I'm not having it every night where it's taking away from me anything.

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but I just don't feel, I don't feel good after such things.
Just
You know, I mean, for me, but that's, I've trained my body otherwise, you know?
But you know, I mean, that's where we're going.
That's anyway, I mean, it's about living life and doing your best thing.

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Like you said, we mentioned you in Sober Cowboy and that's very cool that you have gonethat far.
So I mean, you know, and we're...
I think we're both learning from each other in that aspect, you know, that little thingsand the little things add up to big things.

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And that's what the, that's what the podcast has been about too.
Since you've been gone.
mean, like, like every conversation we have, you might learn a little thing and that's,I'm happy that I've been able to keep these conversations going.
Like you said, that though, though.
You know, you think you've lined up somebody and then nobody shows up and then you're justkind of in limbo.

(30:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it can be frustrating, for sure.
And then I called my emergency standby Lacey, cause she said, I said, can you do one?
And, and, uh, she said, well, here's the deal.
Whenever you need an emergency person, I'll, I'll come on and I used my emergency person.

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now we're running a little, a little behind here, but you know, I mean, that's all right.
And then it seems like then all of sudden you get a flood, Like, Mountain Man Dan, youknow, just got in touch with us and, you know, he's interested in getting on another
episode.

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And then I think, you know, recommended potentially one, maybe two more people for us.
yeah, it was two, I think, I need to, I hope she'd get back to us.
And then, you know, I wish in this day and age, you know what I hate about this day andage?

(31:43):
The worst thing about this day and age, and it's not so much the technology, it's about,
people not knowing if you're real or not.
People not knowing if you're scamming them or not.
And you know what I mean?

(32:04):
The guy that I would really like to talk to is the outdoor therapist.
And we were talking back and forth, but a little bit on IG, but my problem is I sent anemail and it...
went with my Wapiti because anyway, and it didn't go with the Don't Die Rusty pod episode,email.

(32:35):
And how do you know if I'm real or not?
if you're listening, not that you would be, but I'll tag you, so maybe you will listen.
But I really would like to have a conversation, but it's hard to get ahold of people thatyou think would be really, really cool to,
to talk to you because I'm not trying to get shit and I'm not trying to swear here, butI'm not trying to get shit from anybody.

(33:03):
I just wanna have this conversation.
You know, how many people, how many people have, do you talk to, like Ricky has the rangepodcast too.
In.
Don't die rusty here.
We both, but what I'm saying is how many people do you look out there and say, you know, Icould be your friend or how many people out there do you say, you know, I don't know, but

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here's the deal.
If you don't have a conversation, how will you ever know?
And, and I'm not, like I said, I'm not trying to get anything from anybody except for aconversation.
And if you liked where we go, if you like what I say, then that's cool.
But if you don't, that's fine too, but I would love, I don't know.

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It's just the toughest thing in the world to get, cause I feel like I'm on match again andtrying to sell my soul.
That's funny.
Yeah, I mean, you're right.
It is like that.
And and, know, I've gotten, you know, during this last six months or whatever, it's justbeen so busy on the day to day grind at Vapor Trail with with everything, you know, still

(34:24):
having to do the day to day like we did before.
But now there's all this other stuff we have to do, like pack up twenty five thousandsquare foot building like six of us do this.
you know, pack this thing up, move it into another building that's half the size and thentry to, you know, figure that out.
Anyway, that's not the point that I'm that I'm trying to make is.

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that, you know, you just get so busy with that.
I don't even have time to.
Like put thought into the types of questions that I want to ask guests, because I don'twant to waste their time.
I don't want to have them take time out of their day to come on my show.
And then here I am, you know, just I've got nothing like I haven't done any research.

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You know, I want to have something like I can, you know, I'm fairly.
decent, think it just kind of wing in a conversation.
but it's important to me that it has, you know, a certain amount of substance so that theyfeel like I care about the conversation we're having.
And so I feel like if I can't put in that time with that guest, then then to me, I'm like,OK, I don't want I don't want to do that.

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So then we just end up having conversations amongst ourselves, which is fine.
And that works.
But it doesn't.
we don't get the same amount of listenership, you know, because people really want to, youknow, there, there's certain people that they want to hear and they want to listen to.
And so, and then not only that, but that's what kind of helps grow it, you know, becauseyou're getting their fans and their followers to come in and kind of see what we're about,

(36:05):
you know, and that's where we, where we'll see a, a large uptick in, in engagement andfollowers, you know, when we have
when we have our guests on and that's, that's not to say it's anything against you oragainst me or any, you know what I mean?
It's just, it's just part of it.
You know, the data speaks for itself.
You know, I think we're both very, articulate individuals and I think we both have verygood things to say, but it's like, we already have our people and they're already here

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listening and we got to bring, we got to bring the people in from outside the outside ofthe reaches.
And that's where the guests help.
And it is, it's really tough.
to get everything to come together and have those conversations.
not only that, but like think about Tommy Carroll, man.
He's a perfect example.
Like the dude would be great to have on a podcast.

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He doesn't want to do it.
And I respect that, but that's just how it is.
There's people and I, sorry Tommy to call you out.
He might listen to this, but I'm saying, I know it, but it's just,
I love it.
But again, it's it's, you know, I try to talk to so many people and it's not asintimidating as it seems.

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It's not live.
You know, we can edit if we need to.
You know, we don't we try not to do a lot of that.
We want to keep most of what the conversation we have there.
But, you know, all this, you know, sometimes like when I'm doing episodes of The Range,like there might be a question that I ask that's
That will kind of lead to something else But there might be a chunk of it that I cut outjust because I feel like it doesn't have any context or it's not you know what I mean?

(37:49):
It doesn't add to the conversation So I'll just pull it out because it it just it's moretime that people have to listen to and I don't want to do anything That would make them
want to click away, but rarely do I have to do that kind of stuff?
But I guess the point that I'm making is is that It doesn't have to be it's notintimidating.
We literally it's just we're just chatting.
We're just having a conversation

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And at any point in time, if you're like, yeah, I just I'm not sure about that part that Ijust said, or I, you know, I feel like, can I say that again?
Because I feel like I got some sort of statistic, excuse me, statistic wrong, because I'vedone that so many times where, you know, it's like I go back and listen to it I'm like,
wow, I got that number wrong or whatever it might be.

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But what do do?
It's already launched.
It's already out there.
So you're just, you know, it is what it is.
But but again, it's just those.
It's just a conversation.
We're just here chatting and you don't have to throw your heart on on your sleeve.
You just, you can talk about anything that you want to.
You don't have to talk about everything.
So, so yeah, it can be tough though to get those guests.

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And especially like you with the range, you're more technologically or depending on whatyou're talking about.
But for me, it's more philosophical where you, if you're talking a bow or a string or someproduct that people want to know about, you have to have those questions more readily

(39:16):
available where I, I'll start out.
a conversation with a question and it doesn't, then we're just having a conversation andwherever it goes, goes, but you're trying to get out, some information too, as well as
having the conversation.
And that makes it interest a little more difficult at times to be, but I'm just, if youget anything from don't die rusty that and see me in it, or Ricky actually too, you know,

(39:46):
but I'm not like, and
to some of our listeners out there that are younger, match.com was a dating website that,and here's the funny story, Cindy and I met on Match and we're married now, but here's the
deal, you felt like you were selling your soul and it was the worst place to be for me andjust got lucky.

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But anyway, and that's where I feel like sometimes you feel like I'm selling like,
Go look at my Instagram, go look at my Facebook, go look at, listen to some of ourepisodes, because this is who we are.
Come on now.
I mean, I feel honored when anybody asks me to be on a podcast or anything, you know?

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mean, look at Bucks and Bales, Ziggy Cortman.
You know, when both of us have been on, but when he messaged me and it was like,
That was a great conversation and I enjoyed it.
you know, those kinds of things being on the range.

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You know, it's like, we're just talking.
I mean, it's amazing how you see the headsets on and you feel like you're a pilot andyou're just sitting in the airplane talking, man.
Yeah.
And I don't know, maybe, maybe you don't relate to this as much as I do, as with as manyas these, if we, as we've done, the range is put is approaching a hundred episodes and

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we're on, don't die.
Rusty is on almost 60.
So, and I still get a little, a little bit nervous, you know what I mean?
But I'll see guests that don't do a lot of podcasts.
You know, you don't see it when you're doing it remote.
But when I see them in person, can see they're a little fidgety, a little shaky and stuff.
And so it definitely kind of gets the nerves going a little bit, which, and I don't thinkthat's a bad thing.

(41:46):
I think it should, you know.
But again, once the conversation starts to flow, you know, and then I slowly start to seethe guests kind of settle into their chair a little bit, lean back a little bit, you know,
and start to get comfortable.
And I think that's our role as a host.

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to foster that type of environment and ask the types of questions that are going to getthem to kind of settle into their seat and feel more comfortable.
And you're really good at that.
again, that's another thing that we may need to start to preface when trying to findguests is that I think that you do a really good job of you're very calm, your voice is

(42:31):
very soothing.
And then I think that would definitely help get some people settled in.
Tom Carroll.
the
No, it's funny.
I mean, I talked to him last week and it was just like, yeah, Tommy, you should be able tocome on to either one of ours and it'd be fun.

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But you know, mean, so if anybody would wanna be a guest that has a good story, cause it'sinteresting, cause I've been keeping, I'm thinking I'm gonna go back to a few other people
that we've talked to before.
And it's funny.
Here's the other interesting thing.
And I didn't know this was going to happen, but it did by doing this podcast.

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My friends have grown by 60 episodes.
You know, I understand.
talked to the same people, but I have gained more friends and we stay in contact and someof them I've never met.
But it's funny because last two weeks ago, I was in Cody and Matt Fry and his wife and I,and Cindy went out for lunch.

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I'm gonna put, and he sends me pictures and we're gonna be, I'll post a picture of us atlunch, you know, here sometime soon.
then I'm gonna go out to Western states and then someday I'm gonna go watch Lindsay run.
And it's not about so much,

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the running part, it's about the camaraderie.
Jerry Norton calls me and we talk.
We become friends and we stay in contact with a lot of people.
Jordan Harbertson is gonna do another one with us because, but here's the deal, we don'tget enough, we talk for an hour, sometimes an hour and a half, but we aren't done talking.

(44:39):
So we need to have another episode with these guys.
and girls because we didn't get to the points we even wanted to get to because they'reinteresting in so many aspects of life that you can't you you'd have to do a 24-hour
podcast just to get to some of it you know

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Yeah, I just recorded with Frank Welsh the other day and we had to we had to cut a littlebit short because we were getting we're talking about turkey hunting and we were getting
in.
We didn't even get into there's some details that I was like, boy, if if we get into this,we're going to go down a rabbit hole that, you know, this could be a three hour long

(45:22):
episode.
So we we had to kind of cut it short.
And so we're going to record another one next week.
So we'll have two parts.
But yeah, I.
you know, once the conversation goes, once, once it gets going, goes well.
And so, and even if, even if it's like stories, you know, people love stories andespecially intriguing ones, you know, where if you've got a, you know, something that's

(45:46):
happened, I mean, we have so many amazing stories, you know, and it started the, the,don't die rusty podcast hit the ground running with Fiona Pierce, you know, and that's a,
you know, a fantastic story.
And again, and just,
all the stories that have come through, you know, Mina Bonhorst, you know, that was, youknow, her story like had me absolutely.

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mean, I'm on the road driving down the road and I'm just like in tears, you know what Imean?
Like just, you know, amazing stories, nothing that, you know, certain things that I wouldnever wish upon somebody, but just to to hear the miracles that happen and that occur and
just the the good willed

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people and the good natured that still exist is good to hear and that's what we want.
We want to just keep spreading this word about just living it up and not being afraid.
Exactly.
And it's funny there.
I talked to Mina, probably two weeks ago, maybe a little longer.

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we were just texting back and forth and she said, you know, the next episode we do withher is going to be with her son.
And you know, he's after the whole story and he's now he's, he's in college back, goingback to college.
I mean,

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I love the stories like Lindsay Ulrich having a stroke and told she can't run and she'srunning and you have, we have been so lucky in those aspects, you know, and Tommy and Dara
and it does make me happy.
I, people ask me what's Don't Die Rusty about?

(47:31):
said, sometimes I say it's hard to explain because we have so many different guestsbecause
When we started this, said I never wanted to be pigeonholed into one lane.
wanted to be, I wanted to be wherever this, whatever good guests we could have on,whatever story we could tell to inspire somebody to be better or to turn that switch on,

(48:00):
to move, to keep moving forward, to live their best life.
And if one of them came out and
and had a quote or a little in somebody got a little bit out of our conversation because Imean, I got the funk, even the funky one got some people text me and said this like you

(48:26):
just said it when we just started.
It meant something because every there are a lot of people going through a funk and theysaid, thank you.
And they were going through some medical issues too.
So, yeah.
but anyway, I'm, I think, I think, you know, I'm ex I'm excited to keep on keeping on.

(48:51):
It's just, got some guests coming on here, but we got to get to that point.
So we'll see what happens in the next few weeks, but I know we got, some good guestscoming on here soon.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
And I'm hoping that I can, you know, be a part of some of those.
again, like, you know, if this if our schedules can't come together, you know, that's justthe way it is.

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But we'll we always try our best.
And I'm going to be making myself more available as well.
So, you know, I would love to get the Rick tastics all back together again as well.
You know, again, just
conversations with Kelly and Ashley and you know those are always amazing conversationsthose are some of my favorites.

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Yeah.
And I think, uh, I have some questions about that stuff that to bring up to be part ofthose conversations, as it should say, you know, cause I'm reading this book and it's a
good book.
It's just some, it is giving me thoughts.

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I, and, uh, it's interesting a quote in it said, he wasn't afraid of death.
but he was afraid to die.
Hmm.
Hmm.
And in which I think the other question would be is you aren't afraid of life, but you'reafraid of living.

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Yeah.
That's a good one.
I feel like we could certainly have a very intriguing conversation around around thosequestions for sure.
I do too, and, I see a lot of people out there that are afraid of death, but they aren't,you know, I mean, some aren't afraid to die, but they're afraid of death.

(50:51):
I maybe, actually, might have to have that Ricktastic's talk next week anyway.
So if I can get us together, but that would be, that-
That question has been rolling around in my head on my walks in the early mornings.

(51:12):
And I know I put out other stuff because I, I don't know how to word it the way I wantedto word it.
Now I've, I think we need to have that conversation.
And I think, the Rick testics would be the best people to do that with.
And, you know, I mean, I wanted to talk to.

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I wanted to talk to Kelly because like I said, I know it was selfish, I wanted this to,we, him and I haven't had that conversation in a, that one-on-one conversation for a long
time.
And I just thought, you know, let's just sit back and have that conversation.
But I think if we got the Ricktastic together and actually when we get done with this, I'mgoing to send out a group text here and we're going to set this up for next week.

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Cause that, that
Question is kind of like the 24 hours to live because that's it I know we've had somewonderful guests and some wonderful topics but the 24 hours to live has Hit more people
than I ever thought it would You know, I mean our guests have done the same but the thatquestion pops up in the oddest places like I

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You know, I can't go anywhere that I'm not wearing a don't die rusty something.
So somebody sees you and you go, you listen to me.
I didn't even know that kind of stuff.
And then they, that's one of the, one of the questions they said, that one got methinking.
Or, you know, our message here and there, but I think this one could get people thinkingtoo.

(52:48):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
think there was a lot of people that were, you know, really got the conversation goingwith me and my wife.
And, you know, I think I had that conversation with a few of the guys at work, too.
You know, it's just one of those deals.
And then you think about, you know, I don't want to get too much into detail.
But, you know, this past week, we had a little bit of a scare, you know, with Susan andand, know, it just really.

(53:14):
puts all of that into perspective where you're just like, man, we really got to startfiguring this out, you know, just to, again, just to make sure that not only are we, you
know, we go through the motions, you know, and it just, everything kind of becomes routineand, you know, we got to make an intentional effort to enjoy life too.

(53:38):
You know, I mean, don't get me wrong, you know, part of our day to day routine is familytime, you know.
and spending time with the kids and trying to give them raise them differently than wewere, you know, try to give them a better upbringing.
And, you know, so we want to be there for them.
So that's super important.
But we also got we also got to take care of ourselves, too.

(54:01):
And, you know, we got to we got to get out of the house, man.
It's just been cabin fever in this place.
You know, it's like driving us nuts.
You know, so we've been having bonfires like almost every night.
You know, we've got a pile of wood back there that we've just been ripping through it.
Like, I don't know, we've been hoarding it for some reason for like the last four years.
Like it was like we were going to run out or something.

(54:22):
And now it's like, man, we've just been, you know, just trying to get out as much aspossible.
And today we only went for a long hike and went out and had some good food at a newrestaurant that we haven't been to in a while.
So feels good.
It was good to get out and do some stuff.
Well, I am glad to hear that, you know, because I just I listened to Lori Ellis, she had a12 minute conversation today with she actually we she put out a little episode for her

(54:57):
podcast today and it was about like changing your routine.
And I never thought about some of the things that she talked about, but she's talked aboutlike
Don't go to work the same way you always go.
Because you don't have to think.
Take a different route.
Just change up, just little things will change up.

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Because your mind then becomes, you know, the same.
Everything's easy.
And then, know, it's just one of those things.
And I was just, I thought, you know what?
I am gonna change up how I go to work, because you...
When you don't use your brain, you don't use your brain.
This becomes, how did I get to work?

(55:41):
Well, here I am, kind of thing, you know what I mean?
It is amazing how that happens.
And it's funny you say that because like just recently this last week I did, I took adifferent route to work, but mostly because I was really feeling like a bacon, egg and
cheese McGriddle was sound real good.

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So I needed to swing by a McDonald's on my way in, but it took me on a different route,you know?
And then I was like, yeah, that was kind of a fun route.
I think I'm gonna take that route again today, you know, just like you said just kind ofswitch it up but You know and then going back to the routine it made me think about I
think it was yeah, you had introduced me to is it it's Jim quick, right?

(56:25):
Jim quick and One of the things that he talks about is the first thing you do when you getup in the morning You drink a glass of water But then when you brush your teeth you brush
your teeth with your left hand instead of your right
because you have to focus on it.
You actually have to take make an effort to do it.
And it actually gets your brain firing on a different, you know, on different cylinders.

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And so that it made me think about that when you're talking about changing routines.
So that's something I'm going to start doing to switching up brushing my teeth with myleft hand once in a while.
Well, you know, and it's dark out when I get up in the morning.
So I, I've just been doing the normal same two and a half miles, knowing where I am andknowing how fast I need to go instead of pushing myself at times where I just know, well,

(57:20):
you know what?
I'm going to start taking different routes now that I know I don't know.
So either I'm going to.
I set my alarm on my phone, so I kind of know where I am, like at different times of mywalk, so I know I have to speed up or slow down, but I'm not, I need to take a different

(57:41):
route.
I just thought, you know what?
You just need to take that different route.
It's kind of like when we climb Crow Peak a hundred times, it was like, this is normal.
you can just, you didn't have to think about things.
Yeah.
And because you I did it so much and that's kind of why didn't want to do the seven againin the aspect of of I've done it enough.

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I don't really Maybe some other day I will do it or we will do it again but it's I justlike to think of new things to do because it keeps the mind going and I want to keep the
mind going so Yeah
Anyway, but it's funny that you said bring up Jim quick is guess, you know, Cindy bringsup Jim bought his book.

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And after I had talked about it, so it's at least I get something going good there, youknow?
So I think about this, but, but you need, here's another thing.
talking about the same book.
I'm trying to, I could go get it here.
What is it?
Now I'm trying to think of it.

(58:58):
I can see the cover too.
I'm looking it up here right now.
Yeah, good.
You probably read it again, honestly.
what is it?
Limitless.

(59:19):
Upgrade your brain.
Where?
What the heck?
just had it there and it just disappeared.
Where did it go?
Learn anything faster.
Yeah, upgrade your brain, learn anything faster and something, something, something istruncated so I can't see the rest.
But yeah, it's it's definitely a really, really good book.

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But it was interesting that, so at least she listens to some of the stuff I have to saytoo, and then she heard him on some other stuff.
So I do know what I'm talking about.
If you're married, you understand what I'm saying.
hmm.
It is a bit of a long.
And so I know I know a couple other people I know that have started it and have finishedit.

(01:00:06):
And yeah, it's it's a bit of it is a little bit of a grind, but it's good information.
If you can, you know, if you get into that sort of thing, it's it's pretty good stuff.
Now, only I could apply 10 percent of that in my daily life.
That's the hard part is applying all of the things that he that he recommends.
Well, it is, but you know, I mean, it's one of those deals that, like, you know, I mean, Ilike buying books and underlining them and stuff.

(01:00:37):
I thought I would enjoy the book I'm reading now and I'm grinding through it.
I don't want to say it's the author's name because I don't want to say I'm grindingthrough it, but I'm still going to grind through it.
And it does have some interesting
perspectives, but I thought it was gonna be a different type of book.

(01:01:01):
Anyway, but I'm learning and that's where that quote came from, know, the, was afraid ofdying, but not afraid of death kind of person.
And we'll get into that if I sent out the, as you just saw, I saw you look, I sent outthe.

(01:01:22):
the rictastic light and hopefully everybody sees that.
Let's get the band back together.
So.
make it happen without a doubt.
So anything else going on besides being a movie star and everything else?
Yeah, no, just yeah, I guess the big thing right now is is you know, just getting back ontrack and you know, one of the big parts of this like hiatus that I kind of took is I've I

(01:01:54):
have created a better routine.
That was one of the things that I was never really able to do.
You know, had a hard time waking up early in the morning, you know.
Wake up, got 10 minutes to get to work, fly out the door 90 miles an hour down the road,you know, that kind of thing.
constantly paying the ADHD tax on everything.
Like, and so, really just having to figure that stuff out.

(01:02:19):
And so I've been much more consistent about getting to sleep at a reasonable time atnight, waking up early.
I'm actually challenging myself right now.
I'm reading through the entire Bible.
going to do it in under a year.
So and actually I'm quite a ways ahead right now, but just got into the Book of Exodus andthis.

(01:02:41):
it's a it's a it's a Bible reading plan through the Bible app.
So it doesn't go completely in chronological order.
Or I mean from from cover to to back cover.
But it's you know, it jumps around a little bit.
It started with like the first couple of books in Genesis and then.
it shifted over to Job.

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And then back over to Genesis now, I'm in Exodus.
anyway, so so diving into that I think that's been really kind of huge just diving intoThe word daily and that kind of helps keep me going helps keep me kind and remembering to
you know to not snap on all of my employees and not not not to say that that's a hugeproblem, but

(01:03:36):
But it you know, there's times where it's like you think back and it's like, man, I feellike I could have handled that a little bit more articulately.
And so but yeah, so doing that and then just getting getting geared up to do some turkeyhunting.
I know you're not real big into that, but turkey season is here.

(01:03:57):
Me and Damon just went out yesterday and I set up some blinds out at.
Well, I probably shouldn't mention where, but
Got a blind set up.
We sat and watched 20 or 30 birds.
Actually, yeah, that was just this morning.
And then went back to the pro shop and recorded just a little bit of content talking aboutthis year's set up and everything.

(01:04:22):
You know, for the vapor trail side of things, but so that's that's that's kind of what'sgoing on right now.
Koda's got some basketball.
He's going to get he's a basketball rock star and he's 12 years old.
So.
trying to figure out that, you know, getting into middle school kind of popularitycontest, you know, like trying to dress snazzy and have the right hairdo and all that kind

(01:04:46):
of stuff, you know, so it's it's it's been fun to kind of have those conversations andtalk to them about those kinds of things, you know.
But that's it.
That's what's going on.
How about how about with you?
What's what's shiny in your world right now?
Well, we're going to go on a little hiking adventure tomorrow, going to Colorado to thehunt show on Friday.

(01:05:18):
And Cindy's going to be a grandma.
Well, I guess I'm going to be a grandpa too, but Cindy's going to be a grandma.
And I've...
they wasted no time, huh?
No, and you know, the best part about the whole thing about that is it's just likewatching Cindy because she is excited.

(01:05:43):
you know, I have these things.
Who was I talking to?
I can't remember, but, you know, I mean, I haven't been through this stuff.
I was talking to a kid that I work with and he's having a baby and he's
pretty calm about the whole situation, but I said, you know, I've never been, I've neverever been in that situation.

(01:06:08):
So it's tough for me for the excitement part because I, know, not that I'm not excited forthem, but Cindy is so excited to be a grandma.
It's unbelievable, you know?
And so that is fun.
Well, and I think part of that is, you know, it's that maternal instinct, but I thinkyou're, you're going to be a really great grandpa and congratulations.

(01:06:34):
I think, I think it is.
It's a big deal, man.
It's bigger than you, than you think.
think.
when you, you know, I think you're going to have a blast with it, you know, and you get tojust skip right to the having fun with them.
You don't have to, you know, you probably won't even have to change a diaper.
I better not, so that's, I don't want to ruin my record.

(01:06:55):
Yeah, there you go.
Going for the high score.
Yeah, but you know, mean, so that's, that's, that's very, very exciting.
really exciting.
just trying to make things work and keep things moving.
you I mean, you heard it in a few of the episodes, you and I chatted just a little bit,you know, I mean, I'm excited about being excited.

(01:07:28):
keep moving forward.
Cause I was getting a little tired of, know, cause people don't understand what you do.
You know, you go to, I'm getting up at 4 30 in the morning.
I'm trying to get that.
I'm trying to get my post out, trying to get a don't write rusty something out.
And then I'm, then you go to work and in the, funny.

(01:07:49):
We were talking about the doctor and she says, are you tired?
I well, should I be tired?
I mean,
You're getting up at 430 in the morning, I come home from work and you just, maybe that'sme, but you're just one of those deals, you know?
mean, it's nothing, it's nothing, it's just like, but I love what's going on and I lovewhat we do.

(01:08:14):
So that is shiny, starting to shine more, we'll say again.
So anyway.
But luckily, if I don't want anybody to hear this, I would cut that out, but I won't cutthis out.

(01:08:38):
Anyway, so, but no, life is good.
Life is good.
We all go through a lot of stuff in life and we just need to learn that we all go throughstuff in life.
Yeah, you get there's always a there's always a bumps in the roads and and it you know,it's it kind of made me think a little bit when you were talking earlier.

(01:09:03):
Just about.
There's that ADHD tax again.
Gone.
Thought gone.
You don't have to edit that out either.
This happens more than people know, but it's...
Yeah, anyway, moving on.
Yeah, but no, I think we got some things going on here.

(01:09:30):
anyway, life is good.
So I sent out the text of the rictastics.
Hopefully you guys will hear the rictastics next week.
We'll see what everybody is up to and go from there and probably chat with everybody.

(01:09:51):
maybe next time and I think life is going good so far.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And big thanks to anybody who's listening to this episode and that's gotten all the waythrough to this point.
We really appreciate you.
We couldn't do this without you.
So thank you so much for listening and we hope that you continue to listen and please bein touch.

(01:10:12):
Let us know what you want to hear.
Let us know what you want to
And please, I know this isn't a five star, probably episode, but listen to some of ourother episodes because they are five star.
And if I can, if, if the band gets back together, I can guarantee that, that question thatwe proposed earlier will be a heck of a conversation.

(01:10:36):
Absolutely.
Yep.
So keep, keep, keep watching or listening or whatever.
Yep.
So anyway, Don't Die Rusty Nation, keep chasing your dreams, being the best you, and ofcourse, don't die rusty.

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