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July 22, 2025 91 mins

In this conversation, the hosts reflect on the importance of recognizing and appreciating the small blessings in life. They discuss personal experiences with grief, the impact of kindness, and the significance of community and relationships.

The dialogue emphasizes the need to embrace life's challenges and find meaning in everyday interactions, ultimately highlighting how these moments can transform our perspectives and enrich our lives.

The speakers explore the beauty of morning sunrises, the importance of recognizing blessings in everyday life, and the ripple effect of influence on others. They discuss the significance of authentic relationships, the power of shared experiences, and the humor found in faith conversations.

Lastly, they discuss personal growth, the value of nudging others towards positivity, and the joy of being oneself in a supportive community.

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Takeaways

  • Recognizing small blessings can change your perspective.
  • Conversations with loved ones can provide comfort and clarity.
  • Embracing unexpected situations can lead to personal growth.
  • Acts of kindness can have a profound impact on others.
  • Time spent with loved ones is invaluable.
  • Finding joy in everyday interactions is essential.
  • Everyone matters, regardless of their circumstances.
  • Hurt people can also help others through their experiences.
  • Grief can lead to deeper connections and understanding.
  • We should strive to bless others as we have been blessed. Seeing the sunrise brings a sense of beauty and happiness.
  • Recognizing blessings can improve one's outlook on life.
  • Small nudges can lead to significant changes in others' lives.
  • Authenticity in conversations fosters deeper connections.
  • The ripple effect of influence can impact many lives.
  • Cherishing relationships is essential for personal growth.
  • Humor can be a powerful tool in faith discussions.
  • Every interaction has the potential to create change.
  • Being present in the moment enhances appreciation for life.
  • It's important to be true to oneself in all interactions.

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(00:02):
Well hello Don't Die Rusty Nation.
This is...
We got the Rick Tastic's back together!
We're here.
m
Here we are.
We have Ashley curtain buck on tambourine.
We have Ricky Brewley on lead guitar.

(00:22):
Yeah, sorry, I forgot my slash wig today.
and we are happy to have our bass player back from a little hiatus we had to pay him alittle more money because he was wanting a different contract free agent kelly lovelace

(00:44):
Yeah, hear the roar.
Hear the roar.
uh
Well, you know, it's great to have everybody together here.
It's uh been a while that we've all been together.
um We.
It's we have all these great conversations, and that's why I love having us together.

(01:06):
Because everybody brings something different to the to this conversation.
And yeah, but is.
interesting too because our tambourine player was playing drums the other night last weekand sent us this conversation piece that we wanted to do with this uh episode.

(01:29):
So I will get into that but how's everybody been doing?
Good.
Yeah, busy, busy, busy, busy all the time.
This doesn't, there's no break.
you.
How have you been, Kelly?
It's been kind of a roller coaster and craziness in my life.

(01:50):
ah But we're good.
We're in good place right now.
That's good.
Good to hear.
We sent our condolences in the last episode we did together.
uh you know, it's just, we're just sorry to hear about that, but you know what?

(02:10):
We'll keep on picking you up.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.
That's good.
ah You know, just a little, I guess, update.
I my father on Memorial Day a couple of weeks, a week after my son graduated high school,my youngest and ah kind of a roller coaster.
uh He'd been battling cancer and cancer kind of finally won, but it didn't beat him.

(02:38):
You know what I mean?
Like he was there.
We were having conversations up to the end.
He fell asleep and went to be with Jesus.
So I couldn't have asked for a more dignified and uh honorable way for him to go.
There wasn't a lot of long-term suffering, you know, and they, the VA in Kansas City did agreat job.

(03:00):
He was at the Veterans uh Hospital there and the staff there was really good.
The nursing staff was amazing.
So got to see them at work and then.
Got to have good conversations with him towards the end, just about life and future andthose kinds of things.
So it was good.
And we're in a good place.
My mom is trying to transition, you know, 80 years old.

(03:24):
She spent 59 years with him and doesn't have him.
So that's a big transition for her.
And we've been walking with her.
I spent a lot of time down in the Atchison Leavenworth area with her.
Just trying to figure out next steps and
So we've been really busy, ah but I'm glad that there's some normalcy.

(03:44):
Like I really appreciate this because it brings a little bit more of the normal back intomy life.
And I think that's what we need right now.
So yeah, you just keep praying for us.
Keep us on your hearts and minds and we'll see what happens here this next year.
Yep, you have our prayers for sure.

(04:05):
it's one of those things, it's like those you talk about going on those walks with yourmom and I still get to do that with my dad when I go back and see him.
And those are some of the best conversations.
We always talk about those walks in the woods or wherever else.
Those are the best conversations you can have.

(04:26):
Yep.
So it's been good.
So, and anyway, so I'll let us get into the conversation and I don't need a picture of melooking at myself here, so I'll get it here.
But Ashley came up with...

(04:47):
your wallpaper like a picture of you, Rick?
No, it's not.
Well, it is actually, but no, not.
It's you in the in the American flag underwear, isn't it?
Yeah.
No, that's me actually behind this flag.
He just puts this up for the podcast, but when it's down the picture of the American flag.

(05:11):
uh I love it.
Mr.
All-American.
yeah, I have to think of things to do, know, I mean, every fourth of July.
Absolutely.
It's the land of the free.
living over there in God's time zone.
Hahaha.
exactly.

(05:31):
You're learning.
You're learning.
Just as long as they don't get a brown streak on that American flag, we'll be all right.
uh
Anyway, we'll get off this because we always seem to get on that poop thing.
So we'll get a little more, you know, I mean, it's fun because we can laugh and joke andthen we get a little bit serious and, and yeah, so we'll get a little, uh, we'll start out

(06:06):
this conversation and see where it goes.
Cause we never know.
So anyway,
The question that Ashley posed.
Well, actually here you go, Ashley.
You posed this question.
Oh yeah.
Well, give us a back.
Well, I'll give you the background of it real quick.
So I've had a life coach for the last, I don't know.

(06:29):
And he used to be a personal trainer that I worked out with years ago.
like 15 plus like 15 ish years.
And he asked us this and it really, um, he asked me and some other guys and stuff and
It was, I don't know when I had it, I knew exactly what I was going to say, but that'sbecause I've become more hypersensitive to seeing the small things every day and looking

(06:56):
at that as answered prayers versus like, think growing up and probably even my thirties,like early thirties, you look at, praying and you pray and pray and you expect big things.
But the reality is, like when you
really open your eyes.
You start seeing those smaller things anyway.
So we're, I, we were talking about that book.

(07:19):
Yeah.
The right thing right now, again, we, I mean, I how many times we've referenced that, butwe were talking about that book and he pulled this question from reading, I think part one
and part two from that book.
And so the topic, the question that was posed to us was, um, what was on his book is rightthing right now by Ryan holiday.

(07:41):
Yeah, it's amazing.
And Rick gifted that to me on my birthday last year.
And I have spread that to after reading that I've spread it to a ton of people and they'veall purchased it and read it now too.
Um, just a really great one.
So the question was what blessings do you see each day in an average day and how do youfeel your expectations are receiving those blessings?

(08:09):
So for example,
It would be not just giving back.
said that in this text because I was trying to put context on it.
Um, not just giving back for receiving those blessings, but if you feel you see blessingsevery day, but from whatever you feel, like whether it's it's God or whatnot, like, do you

(08:31):
feel you have a higher expectation then because you are seeing it.
But then you can also argue, oh, maybe you're not seeing everything.
So are your expectations lower?
Right.
So he basically had asked that and it was interesting because people, the immediate answeris like when they say, are you blessed?

(08:54):
Like, how are you blessed?
You're like, I got a good life, a good job, a good family.
No, those are the easy.
That's the easy stuff.
That's the easy stuff to say.
It's the little tiny things when you've had a bad day and all of a sudden
I use the example one day I woke up, I was extremely stressed with what I had to do and itrained that day, which it's been raining a lot this year.

(09:19):
But anyway, it rained that day and I was like, you know what?
This puts me, I can't do what I had scheduled to do.
So this puts me inside to get things done.
It's like God knew I needed that.
And I was like, that's an answer to a prayer because I was like,
Beyond stressed of how am going to get this all done?
I just, I really just need a day at my computer and then it rained and I that I wasforced.

(09:44):
It wasn't even my choice.
Like I made the choice after it was put to me, but seeing something like that, I was like,that is an answer to a prayer.
Even though I didn't sit there and be like, pray for rain, you know, or pray for like aday like that.
But then I started seeing more and more little things and maybe it's cause I read thatbook.
I don't know.

(10:05):
putting it together I've just noticed in the last probably three months how just extremelyhypersensitive I am to seeing those small little answered prayers I would say.
Yeah, I mean, I, I mean, it didn't take me long to read this book.

(10:27):
mean, and, but it's funny thing because it reassures me of the little things that I'veseen.
Cause do you remember Ricky, when we talked to Melissa Bartfield, our first time comingdown the mountain, Melissa and I, watching, I always watch people.

(10:48):
And when we were coming down the mountain,
uh, at total archery challenge and Terry peak, I noticed like she's seeing this flowersand she's seeing the birds.
And I'm, I always look at the people that see the little things, not just a big view.
And I think, uh, that's just one thing I'm just saying, but that's how I look at people.

(11:08):
Cause if you're just going to see the big view, you aren't seeing the whole part of life.
don't think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then to
I'll just topple that to the second piece of that question.
So that was how I answered that question to him through that.
And then I think I gave another example, but then he said, okay, so seeing that, do youfeel like you've been rewarded?

(11:31):
So do you think that your expectations are higher?
I said, I think so.
So now like, well, before we got on Rick and I were talking Rick and Cindy and I were kindof just chatting a minute and
I feel like when I'm in situations where there's a choice to be made on how you treatpeople or how you react to a situation, I feel strongly now that I have to take the

(11:56):
highest road possible, even if that's not how I feel.
Because I've received these little gifts and to return it back, you know, as being part ofthis world, to be a better person.
I have to take the high road and it's, I don't know.
It's crazy.
I can't even tell you it's, definitely a God thing because it's like the last few months,I can't explain it, but it's like, it's put so clear.

(12:24):
Even when you're busy, like Ash, this is what you got to do.
Like you don't have a choice.
You, is, you have to do this because this is the expectations for you.
I can't explain it other than that, but that question came and it pulled it all togetherfor me.
And I was like, maybe that's.
I don't know.
again, having him ask that question a week ago just blew my mind.

(12:44):
So anyway.
So.
oh

(13:05):
things, right?
You know, I talked about it with Susan just to, you know, briefly on a walk.
And, and of course I was like, you know, speaking of blessings, I've got two amazingblessings here with me now, my wife and my daughter, you know, and like you said, those
are the obvious things.
So now I'm like, reeling, trying to, trying to think about some of the things that some ofthe blessings that I have.

(13:27):
then to go back to
kind of again to what Rick was saying about the uh conversation we were having withMelissa, we talked about like how certain people come into your life, right?
Like, and it could just be somebody in and out.
You know what I mean?
Like maybe it's not somebody that you see every day or that you're going to see every day,but maybe it's a person that you sat to next to on the plane on a flight and you had a

(13:53):
conversation with them.
And then you're just like, cause, cause for me, like I kind of
When I get on a plane, I'm just, I kind of just want to just be quiet.
Like I don't want to talk.
I don't want to, you know, I'm like very introverted.
oh
to you just has to say something.
then and that's just it.
Like so many times like of the if I can think about the conversations that I've been kindof forced, I don't want to say forced into, but they're just like asking a lot of

(14:20):
questions.
And so you're like, oh, OK, we're going to do this.
And then I don't want to be rude either.
But it's like the conversation is always like really cool and really enlightening, youknow, even though I know that I'm maybe never going to see this person again.
I always try to think of that.
It's like, OK, like you were saying, this is kind of a nudge from God, right?
Like
Mm-hmm.
is over here trying to say something to you.

(14:42):
So what can I extrapolate from that conversation?
So that's that's kind of where my head goes immediately is just some of those people that,you know, come into your life and maybe it's short lived, maybe, maybe it wasn't a maybe
it was a toxic relationship, but there's something to come out of that even, you know,

(15:04):
Well, I agree.
Cause I'm that guy on that airplane.
And, and, and the funny thing about that is the, when I just, just a couple of weeks ago,when I was in California on my way back, well, my way there, me and the lady talked all
the way.
that was fun.
But on the way, this girl got on the plane in Denver with me, she's sitting beside me andshe's putting in her earbuds.

(15:31):
Cause you know, I mean,
She's me.
way not to talk.
then of course, Rick doesn't let her put her ear buds out.
But, but it was funny because she says, I don't know the last two places, nobody wouldtalk to her.
then the last two flights.
And then she's sitting by me and I just started chatting.

(15:54):
And by the time we got to Rapid City, she said, that's the fastest flight I've ever had.
And she's 21 years old.
And we had conversations about all kinds of stuff.
And I said, you know, this was a wonderful conversation, but you're right, Ricky, I'llprobably never see her again.
But that little moment, we both had things in common and we both gave other peopledifferent, gave our, you know, we opened up the box.

(16:21):
We'll just say, you know what I mean?
And we thought outside the box and we had different ideas and all kinds of stuff, but wehad a great conversation.
Now with that.
Does that influence me?
Probably, you know.
What do you think there, Mr.
Bass player?
Don't just sit back in the back there.
He's waiting, he's bursting with info.

(16:48):
Well, I didn't have to think too hard on the question because it's something that we livein, where I'm at.
ah I lead a church, I lead people, ah I lead my family.
And one of the things that we constantly talk about is God is ever-present.

(17:12):
So coming from that fact alone, there's a blessing.
that He's present in my life and He wants to be present in my life.
He wants me to invite Him into my life.
He wants me to invite Him on the journey that I'm on.
And then my prayer is that He would open my eyes to see how He's moving in the worldaround me.

(17:33):
um That's a blessing, right?
Just knowing that when I wake up, the air that I'm breathing, He gave me ah the sun that Isee, He provided.
And so these little blessings we start to see so that when we're in a place that is hardto get through, we still notice the little things in life, the birds chirping in the

(17:56):
morning.
Rick, that's one of the things I love about your sunrise pictures and the lately they'vebeen sunrise pictures of the flower of some sort of them.
It's that little small thing, right?
Like that's the blessing.
And then if I can be blessed by that,
The next thing that I begin to ask God is as you bless me, how can I bless somebody else?
Because I want them to see these things.

(18:17):
I want them to understand that you love them and that you're ever-present in their life.
Whether they see you or not, you're there.
And I can say this.
I have seen God move in the lives of people before they were even aware He cared.

(18:37):
It's just amazing that we don't have to believe in God for Him to move in our life.
We do have to believe in Him to see it happen, but we don't have to believe in God.
He loves us that much that He's moving in our life even when we don't see it or don'trecognize Him.
And so I want people to be aware of that.
We serve an ever-present God.

(18:59):
He blesses us.
And a lot of times if you watch my sermons and my prayers, you'll hear me pray, Lord,continue to bless us so that we can bless others for you.
Pointing it all back to him.
And so this blessing that we have is there's a depth to it that sometimes we miss becauseas Ashley has pointed out, we're missing the little things.

(19:23):
Right.
We look at rain and we go, I messed up my day.
Now my day's ruined.
No.
Bye.
It's opened up a door for you to get things done that you were anxious about, right?
Didn't know how you were going to get to it.
Didn't know how you were going to do it.
And God said, look, this isn't a curse I'm laying on you.
It's a blessing.

(19:45):
I'm giving you this opportunity.
And I want you to take that opportunity.
And the world's going to try to get in the way of that.
Like, that's just the way this works.
ah It's just the way it works.
There is an enemy, he's trying to block the blessing.
He's trying to get us to block the blessing or miss out on it.

(20:06):
And we've just got to continue to lean on him and just say, OK, you're here.
I know you're here.
Even when I don't feel you, I need to know in my head, you're here.
And you're wanting to do something for me.
Let me let you do that.
Let me embrace the rain.
so that I can get the things done that you've allowed me to do.

(20:30):
And I think it kind of goes back to, I'm twisting it a little bit, but sometimes we justgot to embrace the suck.
Because it's not really sucky, right?
No.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
So like, I love the question and I'm like, wow, this is stuff that we talk about all thetime, uh, in my community and the people that I'm with, we, try to bring it up.

(20:54):
We talk about it.
They ask questions.
This, this is where I want to see people live is, is in this awareness of what they havearound them and not get caught up in the chaos and the tragedy that the world's trying to
push on them.
The busy.
Yep.

(21:15):
Kelly, is that why Jesus is shaking his head on your shirt?
Because we're all kind of missing the mark on recognizing our blessing.
like, yeah.
it says it says I never said that Right because there's there's all sorts of crazy stuffthat yeah, there's all sorts of crazy stuff out there But yeah, that's I thought that

(21:36):
would be pretty good.
I never said that
my gosh.
I, I have to talk like Ashley is right in that back that I, I mean, geez, I said she wasright.

(21:59):
I'm just kidding.
Never hear that.
uh
But I'd say in the last probably six months, I've probably realized that I'm going to havetaking the high road, even if it's not the road that feels right in with a person has made

(22:35):
me feel better.
you know, in most situations because there's, you can argue with somebody, but it doesn'tdo any good.
then I've learned, you know, I've probably learned in the last probably, I'll say three,four years, I don't care really, I care, but I'm gonna do what, I'm gonna be Rick and I'm

(23:04):
so,
that's who I'm gonna be.
So in those conversations, I just had to learn to not state my opinion all the time,because it really doesn't matter.
My opinion doesn't matter to everyone.
My opinion only matters to the people that wanna hear my opinion, you know, in somesituations.

(23:25):
I think we get into, in this world, we're getting into a place where everybody has anopinion, but.
Nobody cares about some people's opinion and I don't really care either, but we're allvaluable with an opinion.
just how we take it.
And for those little blessings, I get up in the morning and clear my head and I'm walkingalong and I see that flower or I see that, I'm thinking, you know, if I get down and can

(23:54):
take this picture, this is going to be a cool picture with the sun coming up behind it orsomething.
Or do you see that butterfly or do you see?
Like the deer are always running.
You've been out there too.
And in the blessings that we have to be able to breathe in the fresh air and to see theselittle, little things.

(24:14):
I, lately Ashley's been coming with me on a weekly morning walk with me and theconversations that we're having has been blessing me because
Ashley, even though I say she's right, she tells me how it is too.

(24:40):
So I don't know if it's always right because she tells me how it is.
I mean, I want to hear it.
Sometimes being transparent sucks.
uh
Ha!

(25:01):
But I mean, how many, we went to the big horns, I went to California to the race, you guyshave been doing stuff, you know, like Kelly, and I know this is a hard thing to say, talk
about, but in the end with your dad passing, but you're spending, are you spending moretime with your mom?

(25:28):
for sure.
Like that whole process for us became a blessing.
Right.
So all of my kids, but one got to see him and talk with him because he was still he stillhad his mind, you know, he he the cancer hadn't stolen his mind and he was able to talk
with him.
He was tired and fatigued pretty quickly, but he got to see all of the kids.

(25:52):
He got to hold his brand new great grandson and
Bless him, you know, he got to have conversations that he probably wouldn't have had withme and my brother.
And then my mom got to spend time with him and we were in the room when he passed and itwas it wasn't hard.

(26:13):
Do you know what mean?
Like I and my job, I've seen people die hard, right?
Whether it was a car accident or it's just really hard for that person is fighting for allthey've got.
in a hospital bed and it's agonizing.
Well, that wasn't the way it was for my dad.
It was very peaceful and it was very relaxed and it was very, um, it was almost, uh, ascathartic, the right word, like it, it, it was a release that was healthy for all of us.

(26:49):
There's grief.
We cried, we mourned.
Um, but it was, it wasn't the struggle.
And those are little blessings through tragedy that if we're not looking for, we getcaught up in the loss.
We get caught up in the morning and the grief and we miss out on those things.
ah So we were extremely blessed and I believe my dad was blessed through that process aswell.

(27:13):
And that helped him in those last moments.
know, uh we miss out sometimes because we get so caught up in what we sense or see asagony or
tragedy and the blessing gets lost over and Death is never easy, but it's a part of it'spart of our life We're gonna have to deal with it at some point There's no way around it.

(27:42):
And you know, it's outdoors people We understand what death looks like.
We're we're very involved in it when it comes to the the animals we pursue We know whatwhat that's
that's about.
And so we're going to have to deal with it on a personal level at some point, all of us.

(28:03):
And so how do we, how do we free people to be blessed in those moments?
And that was one of my goals.
Like I had, I had some things I wanted my dad to have dignity and peace in the process.
Like I wasn't going to let doctors take his dignity away and not involve him in thesedecisions.
w our family wasn't going to do that.

(28:25):
Um, I wanted him to have peace about everything that was taking place.
And so those were, were really good things for us.
Those were blessings because he got those two things, blessing and peace.
And then out of that, they honored him.
Uh, the staff at the hospital, uh, honored him and the people we worked with through theVA, they honored him.

(28:45):
And that was, that was a healing moment for, know, I know for sure for my mom, it was agreat blessing for her.
And so.
This is something that we've got to deal with.
Well, if we're just focused on the death and the loss, and I've been there where peopleare wailing, like, I don't know what else to call it.
It's more than that even.

(29:05):
It's like their heart and their spirits being rendered or torn apart and at the lost andthey don't know how to handle it.
Well, I think we would all be that way if we weren't at some point understanding who Godwas and looking for that blessing.
Does that make sense?
It certainly does.

(29:26):
And cause I look at the blessing you, you, you, you mourn the loss of that person.
But the blessing was that I got, I spent, I made more time.
We were talking about being busy bees and I, now I make the time or try to make time to bewith my dad knowing that

(29:50):
It's a blessing to be with him when, when he, when he wants to be with me, you know, Imean, I would love, I mean, I, I miss, I miss some of like cabin stuff or other things
like that, but we have two hunting licenses together this year.
So hopefully we can spend a little more quality time together, but the blessing is thetime that you spend with the people you're with too.

(30:15):
And we need to realize that time is precious times the.
most valuable commodity we will ever have.
And we need in our busy lives, and I know I'm, I fail at things at times and because of,say I'm busy, but I need to make things priority at times too, because we, like,

(30:47):
I need to go on, for me personally, I need to go on those hikes just to find the blessingsin life.
Like I read a book, I listen to something before I go out and then I have my mind justgoes and it gives me a blessing to become one with God or, you know, talk or whatever I

(31:08):
have to do.
I find that a blessing.
the other blessing, you guys can go, but I have another question because
When we realize our blessings, how do we give back?
I wrote it down when you were talking.
How do we give blessings back to people though?
Right.
mean, that was your question in the beginning.

(31:29):
Yeah, kind of like what are your, are your expectations if you're aware of it, like yourexpectations, maybe one of them is to give blessings back to other, to other people.
Well, I think for me personally, I think that, uh,
I try to do good things for people because it's the right thing to do and I want people tosee that because when they start seeing it, oh know that I have blessings and I see that

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they might be in a struggle, they might be in strife or they might not have direction andif they see that I'm giving them the time of day and giving them a blessing because here's
the deal, we don't know what anybody's going through.
And if we are kind or if we appreciate or see that person for that moment, it doesn't haveto be like Ricky said earlier, it could be a fleeting moment.

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But if we saw that person and they know that what they were seeing, we might have changedtheir life.
And then we are the blessing to that person.
I think there's moments when we get a nudge and sometimes we ignore it and sometimes weembrace it, right?
And I think that if we can embrace that nudge, we're going to impact somebody's life.

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And it could be some complete stranger that just needs to know, like we don't know whatthey're going through, but they might just need to know that somebody sees them, right?
So a hi or a hey, have a good morning.
might mean the world to somebody and we don't even realize it.
It could be somebody that we know and you can just see in their demeanor, the way they'rewalking, the way that they're engaging people that they're not in the right place.

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So there's a nudge.
Boom.
Right.
But let's go see how they're doing.
Let's ask them if we can buy them a coffee.
Let's my wife is probably way better at this than me.
I know there's been times where she's still buy a drink or two out of a
out of a deal in the line at Walmart, you know, when you're standing there and there'sdrinks and give it to the cashier and just like, it, this has been pretty rough today

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here.
I want, I just want you to know, we appreciate you.
And she's, think she's got a really, a much more tender heart with that than I do whereshe can, she can read people pretty well and she gets a little nudge and man, she just
embraces it and goes with it.
And it can be a candy bar or just.
a note or, mean, she's just really good with that stuff.

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And we don't know how simple something like how something simple like that is going tochange somebody's day.
It means the world, because I think I think we're so isolated as a people and we're sodisconnected ah that that human touch is missing in the lives of a lot of people.

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And they
feel like they're an enigma or a shadow or don't matter, you know, and that's the furthestthing from the truth.
I mean, if God is wanting to get involved in my life, then I matter.
And if God wants to get involved in my life and he's telling me I matter, then God wantsto get involved in their life because they matter.
ah That's one of our big rocks and that is everyone matters.

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It doesn't matter who they are.
It doesn't matter what their checking account looks like.
It doesn't matter if they're living out of a backpack under a cardboard box or they livein the biggest house in town.
Everyone matters.
It doesn't matter if they smell.
It doesn't matter if you know if what they look like.
Everyone matters.

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And so we try to live that way.
It's got to become something.
This is where we've been.
We have four big rocks and they're foundational to our to our beliefs and they all revolvearound God.
and who he says he is.
ah we love everybody.
We're going to love first because God is love.
Jesus is life.

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The Holy Spirit leads us and everyone matters.
And we read those in God's word.
And so what I'm encouraging people to do is go, don't go, that's what my church believes.
But to say, this is what I believe these four things.
And then your life begins to build off of that.

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And it does impact the way that you approach people, whether you like them or not.
Right?
So that's the good word for tonight, how about that?
Yeah, I, know, in my, in a couple nights a week, uh, and this probably frustrates Rickbecause it sometimes prevents me from getting on episodes, but I'm, you know, serving or

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bartending part-time, um, at a place called Smokey's and you run into all kinds of people,you know, and you know, the other night there was a gal, she was
I don't know, she was taking her frustrations out on me for whatever reason.
uh, and like at first it kind of frustrated me cause I was like, what is it?

(36:49):
Okay.
I'm not your server.
I'm not, I'm not the bartender either.
So I don't really know what, what to tell you here on this, or I don't know how to handlethis for you or whatever.
And that was like my first kind of reaction, but it, you know, it says just like, okay,hang on a second.
Let me just look into it.
Let me kind of figure things out, you know, and we're able to deescalate it, but it's justone of those things where, uh,

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You know, oftentimes the knee jerk reaction is just, know, when someone comes at you, it'sto come at them back.
And I feel like.
You know, if you can, if you can just kind of take a step back a little bit and like Ricksaid earlier, what you don't know what that person's going through.
Uh, and you know, oftentimes they say, I heard this the other day.

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It was kind of interesting.
My wife said this, that, you know, hurt people, hurt people.
Which is true, I think in a lot of cases, but also.
hurt people, help people too.
You know, cause sometimes that hurt that they've been through, they want to see anybodyelse go through that.
And so then it gives them the wherewithal like help as well.

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And so, uh, you know, I was just thinking about all the different walks of life that Iwork with, even the, even the other employees that I worked there, you know, I, they get
frustrated with customers or they get, you know, they didn't like the way that they gottreated by, uh, by
this person at that table or they didn't appreciate the tip they got or you know and it'sa lot of the full-time servers there that are you know kind of pulling their hair out and

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getting really frustrated and so
Sometimes I get kind of pulled into that a little bit, you know what I mean?
And I, and I maybe might contribute to some of the grumbling and all that kind of stuff,but then I oftentimes will stop, take a step back and go, you know, try to reframe it in
some way to try to cheer people up.
I'm the part-time guy that just comes in every, you know, every once in a while.

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So I'm not inundated with all these like angry people all the time, but, um, but I just, Ijust try to have fun with it.
You know what I mean?
Like I'd laugh and joke and.
You know, some of the some of my favorite clientele are the some of the folks in theirgolden years because they love my dad jokes.
Like nobody else thinks they're funny, but the folks in the golden years, they they laugh.

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So it makes me feel good because now all of sudden I feel like I'm like, man, maybe Ishould take this show on the road.
But I guess like you're saying is I don't put a lot of thought.
guess I can't say I wish I was more intentional about it.
Kind of like Kelly, like you were saying with your wife, she's very intentional about it.

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But I think for me, you know, there's just so much distraction that think is a generalrule.
As long as you just try to be good to everybody as much as you possibly can, then you'lljust inherently pass those blessings on to other people.
uh And now I became blank.
I had something to say about say to Ricky and I forgot what I was going to say.

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Yeah.
Well, I was going to say like when it's kind of like we all have blinders on sometimes youjust go about your day and you just don't look at it.
I think when we're hunting, we all when you're in the mountains and you're relaxed and youdon't have work and you don't have, you know, kids or spouse, whatever.
Like it's easier to see those little things like Kelly was initially talking about too,like the small things every day.

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But I think seeing those blessings that really make a bigger difference than what we givethem credit for is another level of like living.
It is for me now that I'm, I've been aware and then having people put in my life.
And for example, I'll give you two quick stories, but I, um,

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In real estate, I had met with clients that I was like, they were interviewing multiplereal estate agents, right?
And they said, Well, how do feel about co listing?
Every real estate agent says the same thing.
So I don't need to say it on here.
And I said, at the end of the day, I work well with 99.9 % of people, there's very fewpeople I can't get along with.

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So if it if that serves you, I'm here, like, I want to help.
And we did.
So I knew this other gal.
We have since been working together.
She has become a confidant to me, a mentor, somebody I call almost every three to fivedays now.

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that's a huge scene.
Well, I run stuff fire all the time.
She's become like a really good friend and somebody who I just knew acquaintance wise andknew of.
And now has become almost an integral part of my work life, just day to day.
And that was simply by just saying yes and not fighting, not fighting, whatever, just liketreating people right.

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And just letting, accepting the answers that, you know, I didn't have control over to whenRicky brought up the plane, I was like, this is ironic.
I just started reading another book.
And do you know, maybe you guys don't know the author it's
Lisa, can't remember her last name.
It's Turkers or something like that.
She's written a ton of like devotional type books for women and stuff like that.

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She's a really good author just down to earth.
Anyway, she brought up it's all over.
I think you can find on the internet.
She's been on different podcasts and speaking engagements, but she talks about the planeride specifically.
This is no joke.
So when Ricky brought it, was like, now I got to tell this story.
So she sat down on the plane and she was working on a manuscript for another book.

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And she sits down and she's ready to like focus on the plane, get to work.
Right.
And the guy sits next to her and he said, what are you working on?
She goes, well,
Hahaha.
I'm writing him another book.
He's like, what's it about?
She's like, it's a devotional book or whatever it was.
And so they start talking about God.

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And she said that God kept saying to her, give him your Bible that you have in your bag.
And she's like, Nope, Nope.
Cause that's the Bible she's had forever has highlighted notes and her kids had drawn, youknow, in it and stories and, whatever it's the one she had forever.

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that has all the mementos that we do and we have a Bible like that.
And she was trying to think of every reason not like this guy's probably going to take itand just throw it in the garbage the second he gets off this plane.
Right.
And she's like, I couldn't ignore it anymore.
So she reached into her bag, she grabbed the Bible and she handed it to him and theyproceeded to talk the whole rest of the flight.

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By the time, so they got done and the guy thanked her and then the lady sitting on theother side of that guy
had been listening to their conversation, but I just stared out the window the whole time.
She turned and looked at her and she had tears rolling down her face.
She goes, thank you for everything that you've done.
And she's like, well, I don't have another Bible, but I got another book.
So she gives her a book.

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She gets off the plane, thinks that she's never going to see this guy again.
The guy ended up going, I think, I believe if I have this right, either was talking tosomebody like the evangelism already immediately started the second off the plane.
And he came back to go find her and they exchanged information and somehow their pathscrossed again when she was traveling for a speaking engagement.

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It crazy.
So when you talk about that, I was like, that's insane.
And then when we were talking about this question, it just looped in so many things withthe blessings and then feeling the nudge and being aware to it and then accepting it when
you are nudge, like
Not wanting to have that conversation with the person on the plane, but then engaging.

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And then now this guy has been spreading basically the word to everybody he sees in itlike how it's transformed him, like how that conversation and that gift.
And she's like, hopefully maybe someday I'll get that Bible back that it's been given liketo, you know, a dozen plus more people.

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And it comes all the way back to me.
She's like, that would be amazing.
She's like on an airplane, you know, but that she talks about that story.
So if you ever go, if you can find it, it's Lisa Turcurs or however you say her name andit's the plane story.
Everybody knows her as the guy on the plane story.
but it's.

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imagine like, okay, what if it was just a regular Bible?
Well, and I don't mean to downplay the Bible that way, Kelly, my apologies.
But let's just say it's just an NIV that just picked up because you forgot yours at homeand you need one for your travels.
And she handed that to him.

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Would it have the same amount of meaning?
if you know what I mean?
If you're handing me.
the Bible that you've had for many, years and you've got all these mementos and all theseimportant things.
That's huge because I think that it has that much more meaning, right?
Like you're just like, now you're feeling that those the arms of God kind of wrappingaround you because somebody is willing to give up something so precious.

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Yeah.
And she said, like, she took it, she opened it.
She pulled all the remaining like bulletins from the Sunday services out.
And she was just like, don't, there's gotta be a reason.
can't give this to them.
You know, just slowly trying to make excuses before closing it and handed it to them.
But then they continued the conversation.
I think maybe read some stuff out of it.

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And yeah, I think she did explain, you know, that was her Bible for years and all thenotes and.
kids markings and things like that in it, very like, yeah, tying it into this question iskind of an exact, like that's maybe a movement, but it was still the nudge and

(47:03):
acknowledging.
is the nudge in like Ricky was saying, what if it was a regular Bible?
Because she's invested into that Bible that she's wrote and underlined.
and so she's invested in that person like
If God, or if you felt the need to give a, just a regular Bible, you don't, you aren'tinvested in that person.

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But now they've met and they've done other things.
So that is, that's very, very cool.
Yeah.
And story is pretty incredible.
I just read it in one of her books again.
I was like, this is crazy that Ricky brings up an airplane.
But there are things that I've given away and I'm not saying, but that

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You knew that other person didn't have that cash at the time or, or, know, I had an extraPlano bow case that, you know, she, and you knew that the kid needed or something and it
makes you feel good.
You know, I'll probably never see, you'll never see those people again, but those littlethings that, I mean, all of you guys do that.

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I'm not putting myself on a pedestal here, but I'm saying I've seen all of you do goodthings for good people.
I can't say good people because I didn't know.
But I say, oh, you did good things for people.
And that's, that's the cool thing about this is when we, cause I think, you know, I wastalking, I think when I posted that we were going to be together, like, you know, I

(48:42):
consider this a blessing because think about this, the Rick Tastic's and you can tell
people when that really that, uh, one of your potential customers says, how do you handlepeople?
You can say, well, I've been in the band, Rick tastics for about a year, but, but, know,think about this.

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We've been together for a year talking about all kinds of topics and all of them have, Iknow.
But I know that the topics have touched other people.
I do know that.
And for us to touch other people is a blessing in and to itself.

(49:28):
the blessing also is to have that conversation.
We make a point to have these conversations at time.
I send out the text to you guys.
We're up like this question's coming out and we all are together here.
This is a blessing to me because

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When I have these conversations, I don't have to pay $300 an hour for therapy.
Okay.
You
Because you're all therapists in your own way.
There's a backlog.
That's right.

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still gotta sign that contract.
Yeah.
True.
But, but in life, mean, like, I mean, going and you know, what's fun is when the blessingsalso that people don't realize that we give are, there are people out there that I know,

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and I'm not going to say their names because I don't want to get, but they were alwaysseeing the bigger view.
They were not they never looked at the tiny things and because they've gone on trips withme or Been around me.

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I make them stop and look and smell the roses.
I'm not just talking about Jesse.
I'm talking about other people.
Okay, but When they have to stop and they have to think why are you stopping to look atthese things?
And they
when they start seeing that you're doing that, you influence them to do it too.

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And like I said, it's not just Jesse, but we have stopped.
Yes.
But it's why are we stopping?
Yes.
But it's other people like, I see that picture.
I see that flower that needs, or I see that stuff and we can be driving down the road.
We went to the big horn stopped and took pictures.

(51:37):
see, but I want.
Here's the other thing I love doing.
Like when Cindy and I go on a trip, I like her to take a picture, take her own camera andI'll take my camera and Chloe takes her camera and the pictures that you get, I'll have

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all different perspectives.
And, I like to look at the, mean, I'm a, I like taking pictures of wildlife, but I like tobe in the face.
That's just me.
I like the tight, I want to see the scars on the whatever, whatever, you know what mean?
I'm going to see their eyes where in, in, that example, mean, when you're with people thatdon't stop and look, you never stop yourself.

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Right.
you
seven on our hike.
We're moving, but we're looking, but you had to get it done.
You know what I mean?
Are we enjoying it to the full extent of seeing the little things?
No, but we're in.

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I know I am done and I am.
you
but that's, and I have nothing in my belly, so I can't barely walk, but I'm just sayingthere's certain points in life that you have to get to that point, you know, but there's
other points that you need that when you realize that you can see this big thing is youcan see the sunrise.

(53:20):
I've had arguments with people discussions.
I shouldn't say arguments.
Discussions with, about the sunrise.
rareness of your steak.
I've had discussions about that too, and that was an argument.
uh
But I know I hear you.

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It's still medium well anyway.
uh And I don't, hey, don't judge me.
can't, here comes the judgment.
Don't judge me.
uh Sorry.
I don't, I don't, oh I don't judge you for shooting small deer.
You don't have to judge me.

(54:03):
Oh, shots fired.
uh
Wow.
Uhhhh
don't have to judge you for living in North Dakota either mate.
Hoser.

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But I've had other, I've had people.
a silent judgement.
At least I didn't miss a deer seven times and think I was.
But I've had discussions, conversations with people about, they say when the sun comes up,it's, it's up and it's still beautiful.

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But to me, you, when you wake up in the morning and see the sun rise, when you see all thecolors.
That's more splendid to me.
that, and maybe that's a judgment call, but I'm seeing the little things.
Cause you see the glows off the flowers.
see the glows, you hear the birds start singing you.

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There's so much more going on just as a, as a world wakes up than there is at noon.
Is what I'm saying.
Cause the world woke up and now it's taken away.
The bird singing taken away.
Now you hear for here.
We hear logging trucks putting on the brakes, brakes, and you hear all kinds of noise.

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You know that.
And that's the way it is.
And early in the morning, you don't hear that stuff.
So I get to enjoy the, I get to enjoy it.
It brings that sense of, that sense of happiness there, but it's also that sense ofblessing that we get to see that stuff.

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I agree with you, Rick, too, on the difference between the sunset and sunrise.
I mean, not only what you're saying, also I was thinking about this before you wentscorched earth on Kelly.
um
Bye.

(56:24):
In the evenings, there's these little things that I hate are the mosquitoes, but in themornings, I don't see the mosquitoes.
So that's, I like that.
That's good.
though he talks to God, can't I can't let him get away with things You know But I still Idon't I'll never care what you guys say I still like a medium well steak anyway You do you

(57:03):
I'll do me
right.
Sorry.
But yeah, I'm just, the blessings that we have, we all need to realize and people need torealize the blessings in their life.
And I think that, I think that the world would be so much better.

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And I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm saying I think people are in such hurries.
They want things right now.
They don't want to stop.
They don't want to slow down.
know, we know a couple people that that's all they're focused on just one tiny bit of lifethat they will never see the whole picture of the little things.

(57:55):
They will never see that until they, I have to say that I'm hacking on one guy and he'sstarting to see the little things because I'm relentless.
You know that Kelly, like.
You know, I just told you I'll never forget missing seven deer, seven times out of deer orme shooting bigger deer than you.

(58:18):
anyway, I'll be relentless, man.
No, I'm just kidding.
But, I want, and I sometimes wonder if I am, is that my job in life to do that?
Or am I being too much of a, I don't know what to call myself.

(58:38):
You can call me whatever you want to.
Not all everybody calls me good things, but, um
by preaching to him to see the little things, to see that there's more to life out therethan this one focus thing.
Sometimes I feel like I'm being a prima donna or I don't know, something, but I want youto see that there's more life out there than what you see.

(59:07):
Is that wrong?
No.
You know, I don't know if it's right or wrong, because maybe that's not the life he wantsto live, but...
When I feel like I'm being a preacher or something, not to say that's bad either, Kelly,but I feel like I'm pushing something on some people, but sometimes is God talking to you

(59:32):
to say they need this?
They need a reality check?
Or is it me just being pushy?
I don't think it's you being pushy.
think if you're trying to offer
You see such value in it and you want to pass that on to somebody else.
That's, think that's part of it for you.

(59:53):
And so I think by maybe getting those nudges and when you give that nudge to people, maybethey're not receptive or maybe it's not right away.
Sometimes it takes people time and time again to see it.
I would say a lot of people, it takes multiple times to see something, especially if it.

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involves a change personally for them.
So maybe, maybe it is your purpose to be the positive guy that helps point it out andwhether they decide to, it's probably frustrating for you because you're like, you don't
act like you can see the blessings because you're not very grateful.
Well, there's a lot of people not very grateful.
So I think we just, those people you can pick out, um, almost every day.

(01:00:43):
If you're just around people, you can pick out the ungrateful people pretty fast.
But that's their choice.
That's the choice that they are making.
That's their attitude.
That's every, that's how they respond to life.
So I think you should continue.
I would say never stop.
It's not being pushy.

(01:01:04):
You're trying to make the world a better place, right?
Yeah, so I people don't change miles at a time We don't change miles at a time.
I there might be moments in certain people's lives where that's happening, but The normfor us is not miles at a time.
It's centimeters
So every little nudge is a centimeter.

(01:01:25):
And we're archers, right?
So we know the value of a centimeter right here on my bow versus what's going to happen20, 30, 40, 50, 60 yards down range.
If I'm a centimeter off here, how far am I off down range?
And so to push somebody or to nudge somebody a centimeter makes up miles of differencedown life's path.

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And so if I can push them a couple of centimeters and get them
get them get a little bit of a course to correction.
Even if it's a couple of centimeters, it makes a difference and it takes persistence.
That's not something that's going to happen one time.
We're going to have to do that probably over and over to get that centimeter or the coupleof centimeters out of them.
And so as, as I tell people this all the time, you'll never meet another pastor like me.

(01:02:13):
You just won't.
Right?
Like I am, I don't have this,
Pastoral aura, the fit and finish that is probably expected out of most pastors orexpected out of pastors, is not always there because it's not my norm.
And I want to be able to talk to people uh on a regular level.

(01:02:36):
And I don't know if you guys have experienced this in your jobs, but when people find outI'm a pastor, immediately they're trying to meet some.
unspoken expectation.
They think they have their language cleans up, uh they start talking different, andthey're not who they are.
And I just want people to be themselves.

(01:02:57):
And so when I meet them, my goal is to be present enough to move them a centimeter at atime.
don't introduce myself.
It's hard in a small town to get away with this now, but I don't normally introduce myselfas pastor or reverend or
It's just, hey, I'm Kelly.
It's good to meet you.

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And when they find out what I do, which is usually down the line a little bit, if it allworks out the way that I'd like it to work out, they're a little shocked.
You're a pastor?
Well, why didn't you tell me?
uh You didn't ask.
And so it's being able to engage people uh and gain or create some trust throughrelationship.

(01:03:45):
so that I can have the opportunity to move on that centimeter, because that centimetermatters.
I mean, if you look at a centimeter on a ruler, it's basically nothing, I mean, to behonest.
But again, with our understanding of shooting, that centimeter right here where I'mstanding makes a huge difference way down range.

(01:04:05):
So that's the way that I, if we could look at our influence on others that way, it makes ahuge difference in their lives.
ah
And it's happened for me over and over the influence and there's and there's like this isall four of us.
ah So it's not just me, but there are people that I have influence and I have no idea theamount of space that they have moved from the direction they were heading to the direction

(01:04:35):
they're at now.
Right.
Like they've been in my life for just a minute.
I refer to them as seasonal people.
They're in my life for a season and they're moving on.
And that season can be short or it can be long, but they're moving on.
And then there's people who are lifetime people and they're people that those arerelationships.
Rick and I have a lifetime relationship just because of some of the mess we've gonethrough together.

(01:04:59):
Um, and it's, it's, it's a different relationship than a seasonal relationship for me.
And so, uh, these seasonal relationships, we don't know the impact we're going to havedown range.
We don't know the impact they're going to have to respond someone else because werecognize the nudge and stepped into it.

(01:05:21):
That that's key.
I think if we could begin to understand that it's a ripple effect, it's not just meimpacting that person, but it's the impact that person's going to have on somebody else.
And then that person's going have on somebody else.
And it becomes like throwing a rock into a pond and watching the ripple effect take place.
So
That's the blessing is understanding that I am impacting not just this person, but thenext.

(01:05:51):
Going back to what you had, we're talking about a little bit earlier.
And by the way, that was fantastic.
Kelly, thank you for that.
Um, I, I just, man, you just, you just fill my brain full of so, so much amazinginformation.
love it.
And, and, and a constant reminder, you know, we've talked about this ripple effect before,and I love that.
Uh, but Rick, to go back to what you were saying about kind of how you were preaching tothis individual.

(01:06:19):
about seeing the small, seeing the little things and being present.
And then also, you know, looking outside of whatever it is, this focus is, um, you know,like for me, I guess it just kind of depends on what's going on in their life.
You know what I mean?
If, somebody is content in doing that and that's just their thing and that's just whatthey do, then so be it, you know, but if it's affecting other people's lives or if they

(01:06:45):
have a family and it's affecting the relationships with their family.
like then it makes sense to me, you know, like if, if it really, like if I, if it kept meup at night knowing that you eat a medium well steak, I would probably make a stronger

(01:07:06):
effort in trying to preach to you and convince to you why a bloody steak is better.
But
it.
I don't see it affecting anybody else around you.
don't think Cindy's ready to divorce you.
Ashley thinks it's kind of funny.
We all think it's kind of funny.
So it's a good talking point.
We can all laugh about it.

(01:07:26):
So I'm not going to preach to you why you should or shouldn't do that, but that's, guessthe best example that I can put into place as far as with that particular individual.
don't know the whole story on it, but I would say, yeah, I mean, I've got, I have a friendright now that, uh, you know, a couple there.
you know, having some struggles and um I'm not exactly sure how to, how to handle it,right?

(01:07:50):
Or how to, how to deal with it because I want to say like, Hey, I feel like you need alittle more Jesus in your life, you know, but I also don't, I also feel like he needs to
know, and he's expressed this to me before that he needs to know that there's times whereI'm in the trenches too.
Like he wants to get like kind of that relational thing and know that

(01:08:13):
He's not the only one in the trenches.
And so there's times too, where I just want to be like, man, I just had a rough day andyou know what I mean?
So it's, it's kind of difficult to somewhat navigate some of those things.
So I can understand too, where you're having this, you're, you're not sure what to do, butI think that, um, I don't think you're a bad person for it.

(01:08:34):
I don't think you're not doing the right thing.
It's just, I guess I would need a little bit more specifics on what's going on with it,but I think,
you
Yeah.
And then Kelly, when you talked archery and you talked metric system and you talkedregular, just started.

(01:09:01):
That's why I was busted out laughing because we were in big sky month.
Wasn't it big sky?
I had, I'd got different arrows to go to big sky for total archery challenge a few yearsago.
And I cited, made a new site tape.
for my bow for those arrows because I got cheaper arrows to go.

(01:09:24):
It might've been snowbird, but I cited my uh tape in as close as I thought metric wise andnot yard wise.
So you can be a long ways off if you're shooting yards, shooting yards.

(01:09:44):
three inches for every meter.
Yeah.
I was like, what in the heck is wrong here?
And my, my, my rangefinder was meters.
Yeah.
No, that might've been big sky.
I thought we were going over the time that your site fell off right when we startedshooting the course.

(01:10:08):
oh
of those things could cause some major PTSD as for sure.
Yeah.
For everybody involved.
Even though shooting with you or the time you lost your range finder.
Things have happened in my life that I just laugh about.

(01:10:31):
But there are, you know, but the some of the, like you said, some of the people that leaveyour life, some of the people that come into your life, you have to realize that.
Some of them are blessings and like, just like we were talking about, uh or, you know, youjust got done talking, Ricky, where I was talking about preaching.
I think sometimes by me going into these places and talking to a few people, it also helpsme out.

(01:10:58):
Like, if they're receptive, they're receptive.
You may not know they're receptive right then, but then you hear about it later.
And that's the best part about the whole deal.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm, you know, I'm sometimes I go in talking and Ashley knows what I'm talking abouthere.

(01:11:19):
Uh, but they, but people have changed.
the whole family has changed.
Yeah.
Yep.
So it's one of those things, but you just don't know.
Sometimes I don't know when to quit about anything, but I'm learning.

(01:11:40):
I'm trying to be positive.
Just keep it positive.
There's no such thing.
No one's ever like that guy is just way too positive for me.
Like it was no one has ever really.
Yes.
Well, shame on them.
uh Yeah, it's too much, but this is a real person.

(01:12:03):
I mean, it's funny.
I read a meme the other day about being authentic and.
oh
This is who I am.
That's what you're doing.
You shouldn't.
You don't have to apologize for that.
No.
Anyway, we count our blessings anyway.
So em what else we got?
That's that's that's what I got.

(01:12:26):
I just want to say that, so like full disclosure before we started recording, I washanging out with my daughter and we were going through the bedtime routine that we always
do.
so tonight she didn't want to read books.
She just wanted to talk.
She's like, can we just talk?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
That's great.
Let's do that.

(01:12:47):
And so we were just sitting there.
She's talking about her day tomorrow and all this stuff.
And as she was talking, I kind of, my
brain kind of wandered off for a second.
And I was just like thinking about how tired I am.
And I'm just like, man, I wish I could just kind of go to bed.
And then I and then it, you know, I was like, you know, I'm like, you this right here andyou guys are a blessing.

(01:13:11):
Like I was thinking it in my head and I'm just like, immediately when that thoughttriggered in my head, it was like suddenly I had more energy than any monster or Red Bull
could give me.
because I was just like, and I was like, Kelly's going to be on him, talked to him for awhile.
And so again, it's just like right away I was just energized.
And so I just want to say to that the don't die rusty podcast, and then this is a wholecrew of the Rick tasks, everything you guys are incredible blessing in my life as well.

(01:13:37):
So I just wanted to say that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Well, I love that.
I love this, you know, because then you get to sit down and talk to friends when we dothis.
And then these kind of conversations are recorded and you can go back on them.
And that's it's it's awesome because it's such good conversation.

(01:13:58):
So and it it is a blessing.
And thank you, Ricky, because like you just got done saying, they are recorded and.
How many people get together to do this?
How many people have these kinds of conversations?
You don't take time to do this.
No, even in a hunting cab.

(01:14:18):
you really sit and talk like this?
Everybody's going to bed.
Like, mean, you talk a little vile and you're getting tired from the whole day and go totell the stories of the day.
Which is the best.
Yep.
I, cause like, did you, how did you miss that deer?

(01:14:41):
I'm just saying, you know, I was looking at you.
He was side-eyeing you through the camera, He was.
uh No, but thank you.
Yes.
Thank you, Ricky.
we weren't out there to hunt deer, Rick.
uh

(01:15:03):
It would have been over too quick.
ah But I'm going to finish this with what are the, what's besides family, besides thenormal things, what's the best blessing in your life at this moment?

(01:15:25):
Little blessing, best little blessing.
in my life.
You should have said like today.
Well, let's say today because actually, let's take one from today.
Well, let's pick a blessing from today.
Well, I told you when I walked in, I got to meet a very or maybe that wasn't me as on thephone before on the way over here.

(01:15:48):
Uh, I got to meet a very wonderful couple and got to have just a fantastic conversationthat I would have never been able to have without them ringing my phone.
And it was, it was awesome.
I could have sat there for four hours, I think today, just chatting with random strangersthat I just met this afternoon.

(01:16:11):
Who's amazing.
That's a blessing to me.
For me, ah every Wednesday morning, I've got three guys that I meet with and it startedout just as prayer, like we get together and just pray and then leave.
But it's become much deeper.
We've been doing it for probably with these guys.

(01:16:33):
I think I want to say we're going on eight or nine years where we've met every Wednesdaymorning at 630 and had coffee and prayed for each other and talked about life and
Um, that's a blessing.
It's, it's, been a huge blessing for me, uh, just to be able to know that I got people whosupport me and are praying for me.

(01:16:56):
And, um, I think that's, you can't beat that kind of blessing.
Right.
And I think this is kind of what this turns into for, for me.
That's why this is a blessing is that I know that I can sit down and just be myself infront of you guys and talk and no judgment.
Right.
Rick.
You're right.

(01:17:17):
Agreed.
Agreed.
Yeah, yeah, I've missed this to be honest and I was sad that I missed the last one butyeah, so it's good.
This is good for me.
Well, the band's back together.
band's back together.
Yeah.

(01:17:38):
I think I kind of already said, well, I said when I was talking a little bit about thatconversation with my daughter, I just thought it was really cool.
She just wanted to talk and she's not even five.
Um, but the other thing too, is I woke up early this morning, uh, and it was, uh,Hollywood Jake, he's, um, he's our general manager at vapor trail.

(01:18:02):
And, uh, and we got a pretty, pretty solid relationship as far as like.
I don't know.
guess I don't, I don't know.
Sometimes I oftentimes find myself being a little bit of a fatherly figure for him.
Cause some of the questions he asked me, but, um, but we go shoot, you know, we went andshot this morning and, uh, we had, Alex Garo, he does some asset creation for us, take

(01:18:26):
some photos and stuff.
And so he was going to come up and get some video because we recorded the range podcasttoday on the actual rain shooting our bows and.
Love it.
time we've done it.
So it was, it was kind of a trial.
wanted to try to test it out.
got some new mics, which I was like, part of that process, right.
It's cause Rick and I have talked about that going on hikes and then recording podcasts onhikes.

(01:18:48):
And I have the mics for that.
And so we're testing all this stuff out, but it was like raining and I'm, I was just like,man, I don't know.
So I text Hollywood.
was like, Hey, are we still meeting or what's the plan?
And he goes, uh, I'm, I'm almost here rain or shine.
We're doing this.
And I was just like,
All right.
There you go.
so just being out there this morning, like shooting in the rain, you know, and just rideor die people, you know, like Alex brought his camera.

(01:19:17):
He's like, yep, it's all, it's good rain.
don't care.
It's fine.
My camera is waterproof.
We're good to go.
You know?
And so we got some really good content.
We had a blast.
We laughed and had a good time.
So hopefully we can make that kind of a regular thing.
But, um, again, just, yeah, just those, relationships, you know,
that opportunity I had this morning and even though it was raining, we were still outthere having fun and laughing and having a good time and then being able to just meet up

(01:19:42):
with you guys and have this conversation.
Well, my blessing was on my walk this morning, I had a friend call me up that hasn'ttalked to me.
You know, I mean, we talk occasionally, but he was out of the blue and I always have myshocks on when I walk usually.

(01:20:03):
And it was just a good conversation around my loop this morning and get you thinking aboutlife and
And I always like to think about that stuff.
And then I got another, then I got a message from hopefully a future guest that I canreconnected with and could be a very cool conversation.

(01:20:30):
I'll talk to you about that right here.
But those kinds of those kinds of things.
Like give you energy, like Ricky said, like I went for that, like before you got heretoday, went, I mean, I walked this morning and I thought it's cool.
I'm going to go for another one.
Cause I had, I wanted to get some of the energy wore off because when we all talk here,it's like a Red Bull.

(01:20:57):
You guys give me wings.
Wow.
You do.
know, well, you do, you know, the conversations give me energy and I hope other peopletruly, hope other people have listened to these conversations that we have and sit here

(01:21:20):
because to have all of us to be able to get together and have a Ricta Stix conversation isa blessing in unto itself.
And I feel lucky to have all you guys in my life in some aspect.
I mean, I probably drive all of you crazy at times because of who I am, but I still feelblessed.

(01:21:49):
You guys maybe on the other hand say, oh, but otherwise.
Otherwise.
our cross to bear,
Notice none of us are denying it.
What other friend would dress up in a green suit?

(01:22:09):
uh Yeah.
Or a duck.
mean.
But that's the cool thing is that we get to do this stuff.
So thank you guys.

(01:22:30):
have one more question for Kelly.
what is the wildest thing that you've heard someone say that Jesus supposedly said?
didn't say or did say.
Right.
You said.
What they said he said but he didn't ever say oh dude I could I honestly could write abook right and yeah, yeah people are People try to justify all sorts of stuff Right.

(01:23:05):
So I had you want to hear this story.
I'll tell you the story.
So I this lady call me I had this lady call me up and she said
I got a secret and I'm like, what?
Like I'm a pastor.
Like am I talking to a junior high kid?
Like what is going on?
You got a secret.
Okay, what's your secret?
I'm having an affair.

(01:23:25):
And I'm like, what?
Why are you telling me this over the phone?
Right.
And she goes, it's one of my exes.
And I'm just like, ah, you can't be doing this, right?
Like this is not okay.
And she was, well, he's a Christian.
And I go, no, he's not.
Right.
And she said, why would you say that?

(01:23:47):
And I go, cause he's not doing what Jesus would do and neither are you.
And she said, Jesus is okay with it.
And I go, I don't think he is.
Like pretty sure he's not, right?
Cause he's a Christian.
And I'm like, that's no, no, there's so many things outside the boundaries right there.
So that's one, that was a, that was a phone conversation I had with a lady and she quitcoming to my church because of it.

(01:24:14):
Right
Yeah
Wow.
said, he's not a Christian and neither are you.
Because that's not Jesus at all.
Right.
Like that's not even anywhere near what Jesus would say or do.
So that I can't say that's the craziest, but that's all really it's up there on the list.

(01:24:35):
Right.
Like I could write a book.
I really could.
My wife and I have kicked it around, but I don't know what we call it.
And it might get us in more trouble than it's worth.
uh
just get a ghostwriter, You write it, get yourself a different pen name, you know, andthen...

(01:24:57):
yeah, I could do that.
Maybe, yeah.
So.
and AI will create something.
uh
I'm telling you, it's crazy.
That's that was a crazy phone conversation.
That's memorable, right?
Like.
that's like a reality show.
Like, how come that's not out there?
I always think of that too.
Like I met one couple recently and they are unhinged.

(01:25:19):
Then that's what their show could be called.
And I met them and I've never seen more energy between two people.
I was like, you really do need your own reality show.
I could watch this all day long.
This like banter and, that Kelly, maybe forget the book.
pitch it to E and see if they'll, you're right in there with the Kardashians.

(01:25:40):
I bet that could work.
It's crazy.
yeah, there's a lot of stuff that goes around that you're just like, are you serious?
It's nowhere in God's word.
Jesus never said that.
So, my wife actually bought me this shirt because we have these conversations.
uh I can only imagine what Jesus is thinking sometimes.

(01:26:02):
That's one of them where he's just like, oh, my word.
Face palm.
Yeah.
I have the name of the show though.
I do have the name of the show.
Oh, I want to hear it.
Treestand Confessions with a THP.
well, yeah, that might work.
That would be scary, actually.
Some of the stuff that I could talk about.

(01:26:24):
they used to have the taxi cab compressions, the tree stand compressions with the THP?
Listen to Rick.
He's got it, man.
Yeah, that would be a crazy one.
like devil's advocate here and say, like, were they married before if they're an ex?

(01:26:44):
are they still like related or you know what I mean?
I'm just kidding you there.
was remarried.
She was remarried to this guy and they had they she had her two kids from thatrelationship previous plus the one that she had with this guy and was sneaking around
behind this guy's back to meet up with the ex.

(01:27:05):
Yep.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That.
Yeah.
Sounds like.
no, he's not.
He's not good or Christian.
uh So.
like their steaks well done too.
mean bloody too.

(01:27:26):
You had to rate the first one.
Anyway, well.
Ha
Well, now that we have this out, folks, you know, we, at least we didn't, at least westarted out with poop and ended up with this.
That's pretty cool.

(01:27:52):
thank you for listening.
Thank you guys here that you'd play bass very well there, Kelly.
Yeah, hey, listen, I want you guys to know I'm just honored to be a part of this group.
I definitely don't feel worthy.
But I'm glad I you've invited me and you've received me with open arms.
And it's fun.
I like it.

(01:28:12):
Like I look forward to it every every time Rick calls us.
Hey, what about Wednesday?
Yeah, I'll work.
I'll make it work.
So
And you can't even get the time zone wrong.
You show up like I did.
He goes, know, you're not supposed to be here till seven 30.
I looked at him.
I was like, what?
Oh, nevermind.

(01:28:36):
Well, what do want me to do?
I said, well, you're here.
I you don't need to leave, but it's at seven 30.
I really gave you a choice.
I was like, I'm just going to stay if that's okay.
Right.
Yeah.
Just as long as it's not well done steak.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Need a lot to catch up for that.

(01:28:57):
uh ketchup ah I've heard two to double sin you got it I've heard two awful sins tonight
Ketchup is a main course here.
I'll tell you one thing Jesus didn't say, you should get your steak medium well.

(01:29:18):
Yeah, this, that, yep.
You put ketchup on your steak?
Sometimes I admitted it the last time I get judged real hard for it.
I don't care.
That comes from a cattle per like a cattle family too.
So me too.

(01:29:39):
Can't help it.
Nope.
Well, you like what you like.
Yep.
Yep.
I like a good steak and if you got to cover it up or burn it, it ain't a good steak.
uh
here's the deal.
I like honey, but I only want to kill it once.
He doesn't want to kill it on his plate the second time.

(01:30:02):
I think the first time I can't remember your exact verbiage, but we're at a restaurant.
If you looked at my plate, you're like, that thing is still alive.
Not even close to dead.
Well, it kicked me in the head.
Yeah.
So I remember watching the cowboy way.

(01:30:24):
You guys remember that movie?
uh We are we are so off the trail right now.
It's oh it's killing me.
So I remember watching the cowboy way and they're in that fancy steak restaurant and hetold him how he wanted it.
And he goes, sir, I don't think you heard me right.
So let me put it to you play.
I want you to knock its horns off, wipe its butt and slap it right down here on my plate.

(01:30:44):
uh
Truth.
Oh yeah, I remember.
That is awesome.
Yep.
Well, thank you.
Also miss tambourine pro layer next time we're going to next time she's going to docowbell.

(01:31:07):
Yeah.
Back to cowbell.
You can't ever have too much.
No.
And that was
you're gonna want that cowbell.
m
And then Ricky, you played an amazing lead guitar tonight.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Next time I'm gonna open up with Welcome to the Jungle.

(01:31:28):
All right.
Yes.
So, well, thank you guys.
And it's always fun to have the Ricktastic together.
so, folks, as usual, keep chasing your dreams, being the best you and don't die rusty.
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