DDR 077 - Dave & Annie Frey

In this engaging conversation, host Rick Hanson, David, and Annie Frey explore the themes of adventure, relationships, and personal growth. They share their experiences during a weekend filled with outdoor activities, emphasizing the importance of supportive partnerships and the journey towards better health.

The discussion highlights the significance of being present in family life and the joy of saying yes to new experiences, ultimately encapsulating the essence of living a fulfilling life.

You can find Annie on Instagram @the.sun_the.sand_the.sea and Dave @dave_bee_outdoors.

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Takeaways

• The importance of supportive relationships in life.
• Adventure can strengthen bonds between couples.
• Health journeys can lead to personal growth and vitality.
• Being present with family is crucial for happiness.
• Saying yes to new experiences can lead to unexpected rewards.
• Nutrition plays a vital role in overall well-being.
• Outdoor experiences can enhance relationships and create lasting memories.
• Trust and honesty are foundational in a strong partnership.
• Taking time away from kids can rejuvenate a marriage.
• Community and shared experiences enrich life. 

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
do not forget to hit record.
So when we get there, we'll be good.
So we're already recording.
you guys, you ready?
you're skipping around a lot on the on the video.
Is that OK?
The video should be all right, because you're going to be doing the same.

(00:22):
And then we're both uploading, because you're uploading.
I'm at 64 % for some reason, but I'm hardwired in.
So we should be good there.
Yeah, I'm actually going up.
Now I'm at 95%.
I'm skipping around there, but thank you.

(00:45):
So it'll be blurry every once in a when it's finally done, when it's final, like your endand my end will come together and we'll be all right.
just wait and see if it doesn't last a little bit around.
Yeah, we're just trying to connect a power cord here.
Let me move closer to the.
that's fine.
Nope.
I just wanted to make sure we were recording before, so I did not forget to do that.

(01:13):
because sometimes I do that.
But now we're up.
I'm in the 94 to 95 and you're in the 95 to 99 too, so we're doing good.

(01:33):
All right, now we're plugged in, so we're good.
We're not gonna die.
Oh, and hopefully you don't die rusty.
not planning on it.
Okay, I think we're good to go now.
All right.

(01:54):
All right.
I've got to my pencil and my, if I start writing, don't, like I said last week, if I startwriting, don't worry, I want you to finish.
I'm just writing down something to come back to.
um So, it was such a good conversation.
I didn't need to, gee minicrites, it was great.

(02:16):
I, that's what bothers me is when you have a great conversation.
And then something goes wrong that you don't know about.
Cause like I said, you recorded well.
Excuse me, Annie.
I could not hear.
And I wanted to hear what she was saying.
Cause she was saying a lot of good stuff and it was just, you know, excuse me.
It was good.

(02:36):
So anyway, we'll get going here.
Well, hello, Don't Die Rusty Nation.
I don't know what it is with me or technology or whatever is going on here, but we couldhear Dave, but we couldn't hear Annie from last week's recording.

(02:59):
So you know what?
I am so lucky to have people that will come back because either they liked out Don't DieRusty or
Maybe it's my blazing personality or maybe they're just gullible.
I don't know, but I'm happy that they come back on.
And this week's episode is with Dave and Annie Fry from Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

(03:26):
And they came out and had a DDR experience weekend.
And I'm going to keep the energy up from what we had last weekend and you better too.
So, uh, introduce yourselves if you would, a little bit.
so I'm Dave Fry.
And like you said, we're from Sioux Falls.
And we've just been I've been listening to your podcast ever since the beginning, prettymuch.

(03:51):
And I just just love what you do and love what you uh you have to say here.
And I love your guests, too.
So, yeah.
I am the wife.
I'm Annie and homeschooling mama.
Five boys.
And married to this guy, he definitely is not going to die rusty.

(04:12):
He's keeping me on my toes, introduced me to Rick, and now I'm hooked.
So yeah.
Well, you know, when we were texting back and forth after my mishap this morning, when Istarted editing and listening and, know, I told Dave, I said, I don't know if you want the

(04:38):
uh knowledge that you are family or not, because, you know, sometimes you don't want thosepeople that are in your family, you know what I mean?
Every once in a while.
So.
I'm just telling you, you're part of the Don't Die Rusty family now, so you're in trouble.
I think we'll keep you record.
We did stay at your house and we did eat steak at 430 in the morning with you and climb amountain.

(05:02):
So I think we're qualified.
We're solid.
Yeah, well good.
I love hearing that because you know, and it's interesting because Dave and I talked atTAC.
It's funny, you text me, we haven't got the website up yet, but you text me, do you haveany merch?

(05:24):
And I brought some merch up to TAC and we talked in the Sheep Feet booth and that wasinteresting.
And I said, hey.
You know, if you can ever, if you ever want to come out and climb crow peak and go lookingfor animals, come on out and you did.
But we sure did.
Yeah, you gave me a, you gave me a timeframe to be out there and um I've made it happen.

(05:50):
You know, we, I think I had one weekend in August that would work for us and we just, wejust made it happen.
So yeah.
Mind you, I find, found out last minute we were going to some stranger podcast hosts houseto do some wild, crazy things, but you know,

(06:10):
I was excited for it and I'm so glad we did it, it was worth it.
Well, you know, I've always, I find it fun to have the conversations we have, but youknow, you guys got to see the whole DDR experience for a weekend with me, you know, that I

(06:30):
try to explain how I try to live life, but it's fun to have people come out and see it.
And for you guys to get out here and we went out and then
I loved it when I called you guys and we were talking and you said, well, there's oneother thing we have to do.
And everybody knows that it's my, it's my, it's my kryptonite, but we did go to Leon's andhave ice cream twice actually.

(07:03):
But it was fun.
You know, it was fun to have Annie out here because.
I get to see, I love watching couples.
I love watching the little things and that was fun.
We got up really early on Saturday and not as early as we did on Sunday.

(07:27):
But we got up early, we had steaks, I cooked them.
And as you guys said, know.
I it's hard for me to cook a steak that's medium well, medium rare or rarer or yeah, youknow, but I did that for you guys.

(07:53):
You did an excellent job, Rick.
I uh didn't quite expect the steak as good as you cooked it.
And you took what I said and you made me a really good medium rare steak.
So I appreciate that.
That was good, you know?
mean, but you know, and then we got in the vehicle, we had our breakfast, we took off, wewere going to a 3D shoot in Meadow Camp, you got to shoot in Wyoming.

(08:22):
But on our way down, we got to see sunrises, we got to see wildflowers, we got to see allkinds of things and have such wonderful conversations.
Yeah, we were out looking for elk, but we were also out looking for sunrises and just anykind of outdoor experience that we could have.
um you know exactly where to take the good pictures too.

(08:46):
stopped at a couple of really nice places and got some really good pictures of sunrisesand the flowers too.
I just want to mention the cows.
I know there's a lot of cows and people are used to seeing cows, but there was a lot ofcows and with the sunrise in the background and the grassy fields, was just, they were
gorgeous.

(09:06):
Just in their natural habitat and.
in
Yeah.
And you got some great pictures because I was driving.
didn't get, I didn't get as many pictures as you did.
And I love, I love the pictures you took and the videos you took and, but you know, that'sdon't die rusty.

(09:27):
That's seeing all the little things and you, you know, you come along and Dave comingalong and seeing like, I mean, it was funny this morning, even when I got up, it was, it
was
You never know what you're going to see and that's the best part of that's why I lovemornings and so many people don't it was so fun to have you guys get up in the morning and

(09:51):
go for this and then you got to then we went down to you know, we got went to the 3d shootand as we're going down We're talking about life.
We're talking about You know, don't die rusty.
We're talking about living our best life and I you know, and I say Jimmy crepe
Cripes five boys in your house.

(10:14):
That's amazing.
a lot too.
oh
Yeah, we've got five boys, two of them have already left the house here.
One of them's married and the other one, we moved out to Sioux Falls in October and he wasbounded and determined to get back to Minnesota.

(10:38):
So he moved back to Minnesota.
as he graduated, about two weeks after he graduated.
Yeah.
Back to Minnesota, my gosh.
Anyway.
No.
and they just, that was their life.

(11:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, I understand going back, you know, like I, I, I see that, you know, but I'mpartial to the West.
Yeah.
yeah.
But I see actually Dave has five boys, but you have six right Annie uh You got to keepDave in line,

(11:23):
do this guy's got a got a lot of hobbies.
So, so then we get, you know, I mean, we get to Malo Camp and you meet my other, someother don't die rusty fellas and Ben Hoxie, Desi Hoxie and, and Brad.
And it was just great, you know, cause the, the shoot was a little long, but like wetalked, you know, it was, it was fun.

(11:52):
Cause you got to know other people too, you know, and
And you get to see these are the people that I mean Brad I mean uh Ben and Desi and I andtheir son went on an adventure of moose hunting but These are good people and they they're

(12:13):
living life to their fullest who you know, and it's great, you know, and I I was happythat you guys got to see see These guys in in the element and
You know, I mean, we had to wait a long time in the beginning and then things startedworking out and, and, and I'm going to go here one last time, but Annie was keeping score.

(12:39):
So Dave beat me.
I'm just kidding.
Well, she didn't bring her bow, so she was a scorekeeper and I told her to make sure shefavors me on the score.
I thought it was going to be a help, you know, and now I know who's going to pay outbetter.

(13:00):
So we'll work on that next time.
No, we were.
I hear you there.
I need, go ahead.
we were so happy to meet your friends.
was, you know, we like, we met you and we hit it off right away.
And we just realized like, that we felt like had been friends for a long time.

(13:21):
Like it was just very easy.
We met them, took a little bit of time to warm up.
And then we just realized they're awesome people.
They are genuine.
They were out just to have fun.
We waited in line forever and ever.
And it was just good conversation without a lot of complaining and just enjoying theoutdoors.
It was, it was awesome.
And yeah.

(13:42):
And the, and the time that we spent there too, I mean, it was supposed to only be a two totwo and a half hour shoot and it ended up being like four or four and a half hours.
were there and just the extra conversation that we got to have.
Um, I think it really, it was a good thing because

(14:03):
You know, like you say, it takes a little while to warm up to somebody.
And once you do, you just start opening up and having really good conversation.
So it was just nice being around other people that felt the same, like, hey, we're goingto make the best of this.
You know, this is not the way we wanted it.
We're supposed to be, you know, other places and amount of time.
But that's where we were.

(14:24):
And we all made the best of it.
That was pretty cool.
Yeah.
And I, the one thing I need want to say is like, he just, just said Brad, but I want tosay Brad Jones.
And the other thing, cause I don't want to leave him out, you know, you know, he shoots atrad bow.
He's a little slower than the rest of us, but that's all right.
Cause I know he'll be listening.

(14:44):
So I wanted to say that.
around.
He was funny.
He had a positive attitude and like, you know, he'd make fun of himself and have a greattime no matter what.
It was awesome.
Yes, he's an awesome fella.
When I climbed my 100, he came up with me one time.
So it's, it's always fun to be around Brad too.

(15:04):
But I like what you said when it's, that's one, the funny thing is when you guys got hereon Friday night, was boom.
And it was like, knew each other forever and we just hopped in the vehicle and we
went out for supper and we went to Leon's and then there was nonstop conversation and itwas like, heck, we've known each other forever and you just got here and you didn't even

(15:32):
know who the hell this guy was.
Well, I do have to hand it to you, Rick, because I kind of knew how you, you know, I knewyou from the podcast, but you didn't know me as well.
So yeah, we just meshed really well, really well.
I think we are like minded.
And I think that's what you really meshed well was we both just are seeking adventure andwanting to just live life to the fullest and it, it clashed well.

(16:02):
And you know, and every time, well not every time, but a lot of times when I talk, I talkabout people's, and I like seeing the little things and the little things, we talked about
this before, but the things that I really liked is watching your relationship because Ithink people could learn from you guys.

(16:23):
I truly do because I love that you, how you talk to Dave and how Dave talked to you.
in when we were shooting, know, like great shot, babe.
um You know, you were awesome in that part.
And I don't see that a lot.

(16:43):
We've talked about this, a lot of couples, you guys are married 20 years right now, right?
yeah.
And by that time, sometimes you see those, that little bickering that goes on.
It's not, you know, it's, I love how you're just supporting both of, both are supportingeach other.

(17:07):
And I got to see that firsthand and it makes me happy because in this day and age forcouples to support each other like you do, that was amazing.
Even though you might've put a
like a Rick had one more five or something like that.
But anyway, that's besides the point.
I love you, keeping score.

(17:28):
That's all.
I hate keeping score.
I only wrote down what people told me, so you can take it up with everyone else.
But it's true.
how do you guys, you know, how do you guys keep the keep this relationship like that?

(17:49):
Well, you know, it hasn't been easy the whole time.
And I think that going through some some of the harder times and working through it andcoming out on the other other end of it, it almost makes a relationship stronger the
longer that we're together and just being able to work through those things.

(18:12):
um Well, like when you say work through it, not give up like we.
have been really low many times and it's been very hard raising, you know, five kids andlosing us in the mix.
And, you know, like life is like a roller coaster.
It can get really, really low.
And then it just gets better if you just stick it out and have forgiveness andunderstanding.

(18:37):
And I'm not perfect, he's not perfect, but we're just two people coming together, twoimperfect people coming together to make this work.
And if you...
can both acknowledge that, that neither one of us are perfect, then I think that uh itjust kind of works out in the end, because no one's higher than the other person.

(19:00):
Yeah.
And just being genuine and real with each other, you know, there's, there's a, I see a lotof couples out there and they're, you know, hiding something from, from each other or, um,
you know, they're, just not truthful with the relationship and
That's something that we've always done is try to be truthful with our relationship aswe've gone through our marriage.

(19:24):
And it really helps to just be honest and truthful.
Yeah.
It does.
And also kind of studying your spouse and finding out what their strengths and weaknessesare, what they thrive off of, just their gifts that they, do they like...

(19:46):
What am I trying to say?
Like, some people like more attention, some people like more touch, some people likegifts, some people like compliments.
You know, just kind of figuring each other out and making sure to go out of your way to dothose things for the other person.
And, you know, being selfless.
And she's better at it than I am.

(20:08):
I'm female.
Hahaha.
Well, you know, I liked what you said when, you know, you guys came out just you two.
So you had your alone time away from the kids because we, I don't know where I, it waseither in a, I don't know where I've read this and it's always affected me is you two made

(20:33):
the five kids.
That's where this whole thing started.
You know what I mean?
And you got to keep that relationship.
lively too because you can't you know they came from your relationship and I like how youto keep that relationship going you have to go do things alone or you gotta support that

(20:56):
other person and I love what you guys are doing like you don't do you and we talked aboutthis you don't do everything alone but you have to make that time for each other and you
know the trip
out here from Sioux falls, you guys are in the vehicle alone.
You there's no other person to talk to unless you know, and I've always told Cindy theonly other way to get out of that conversation is jump out the door, but I don't think

(21:23):
you're going to do that at 70 miles an hour or whatever.
Well, that's 80 miles an hour out to to spearfish.
Yeah, no, we definitely go ahead.
You, go ahead.
gonna say we've always made that a priority of getting away alone.
Even when our kids were babies, couple months old and we had great grandparents that wetrusted.

(21:46):
And I don't know why we were brave enough to leave our kids, but maybe just cause wetrusted our, you know, my in-laws and my parents and stuff to watch the children, but it
was always a priority for us to get away.
I think we went away almost every year somewhere.
It didn't have to be a huge place, but we always got away alone and it just, um

(22:07):
Once we learned how refreshing that was and we'd look at each other and we'd be like, wehaven't fought and like, or argued in two days, you know, and we'd realize that a lot of
it was money and kids and just to get away from that reality and just be alone for alittle bit was really a refreshing thing for our marriage.
And then we came back just all full of energy and you know, continuing on with ourparenting journey.

(22:32):
And I just really recommend that for anybody that can, it doesn't have to be.
anywhere amazing, but just that alone time for, you know, two days, three days does a lotto refresh.
Well, you know, and that's, and it's really refreshing to me because I see a lot of peoplethat don't do that stuff and I'm very, like I said, I look at the little things and it's

(23:02):
not little, but I think that people overlook, I should say maybe overlook those thingswhen I'm, because I watch you, you watch, I mean, that's just one of the things I do is
watch people and say, what can I learn from them?
And that was one, and I liked it.
Like you can go on your adventures.
Cause when I go hunting or I go on an adventure by myself, I come home with energy forCindy.

(23:27):
Like you realize what you have at home, I guess is what I should say.
And it's not, you know, it's like, have this energy to let's go on an adventure for, withtogether somewhere.
for us after I get home from a venture when I'm by myself or, you know, there's sometimeswhen I come off of Crow Peak and I saw this most wonderful site and that's only four

(23:54):
hours.
And, you know, I mean, if I drive out there, if I take my time or whatever, it's four tothree to four hours, but I'm saying I have energy, like, let's go do something for the
rest of the day.
And I love seeing you guys do that.
And I don't think there's a lot of couples.
that understand that kind of stuff.
Cause the biggest thing that I saw and I compared it to me is I saw that you guys hadtrust in each other.

(24:28):
Like that is the best thing in the world to see from 30,000 feet or wherever, becausethat's how Cindy and my relationship are is the trust builds.
the relationship that to me, that's the foundation of your relationship is trust.
like the trust in each other in your conversations and stuff was very awesome.

(24:52):
Yeah.
Comes with trial and error and time.
And that's kind of what I was saying with just being honest with each other.
You have to trust each other and be honest with each other at the same time.
And you had mentioned you go out on a hunting trip or something like that.

(25:12):
I just went to Alaska a few weeks ago, about four weeks ago.
And I was up there for nine, 10 days.
um And when I come back, our relationship, we just miss each other so much.
And our relationship is just, it's almost like a high for the next couple of weeks, two,three weeks that you've got, because you just miss each other so much.

(25:38):
Well, I think that that's important.
We've always done something together, but you always do your things too.
And having that balance.
And then we go do things with the kids as well.
You know, like I'm assuming the next time we come out to see you, we'll probably bring thekids and we've talked about that.
ah There's a balance between getting to do your own personal things, going together,bringing the kids.

(26:00):
I think they're just all priorities, but the balance is important.
And that's, that's, I believe that too, which is also interesting because this, mean, Igot a week to think about this stuff and I'm so proud of the podcast, but I'm proud of you
guys too, with the Justin Nault and how I was talking about myself going through...

(26:33):
of lethargic time, going not being the Rick I know I am not, and trying to learn how to bebetter, trying to be the best person, trying to feel better, trying to, you know, and to
learn that you guys have went on a health journey too, it's amazing to watch that as acouple, as well as, you know, just, it makes me proud and is so fun to see.

(27:02):
Yeah.
I mean, there's a, there's a lot of your podcasts that, um, kind of led up to our, atleast my health journey.
and Annie started her health journey a few months before I did, but, I was just, justwasn't my mind was just wasn't there, you know, and it wasn't until I listened to the

(27:24):
Justin no podcast that you did and something just clicked with me and.
Yeah.
Annie was kind of doing that same, uh, same nutrition plan.
And I sent her the podcast and I said, you got to listen to this guy.
he sounds, he sounds like what you're doing.
And she did.

(27:45):
And I mean, I sent it to her immediately when I got done listening to it.
And by the time I got home that day, she had already listened to it.
And I was like, wow, you actually did it.
And he's like, she's like, yeah, this guy is.
is legit, know, that's what I'm doing basically.
And I think Justin has a little bit better program than what she was on.

(28:09):
So we kind of switched a little bit of gears and we started his nutrition plan as best wecan.
You know, I listened to a lot of his podcasts and I think on your podcast, he said, I have300 hours of
of podcasts you can go listen to and it's all in there.

(28:31):
So I started listening to that podcast and I don't even know where I'm at on it, but I'velistened to many hours of it and just kind of picking apart what he says on nutrition and
applying it into my own diet.
And it really worked for us.

(28:52):
I mean, I lost over 50 pounds by
by just switching my nutrition.
I'm not working out at all.
ah I walk every day or almost every day, but that's the extent of what I've been doing forworking out.

(29:13):
And it's amazing that just nutrition can change your body so much and just feeding yourcells and your body changes so much.
ah I started this about
Somewhere in, in end of March and it, by the time tack rolled around, um, I was literallyrunning up the mountain and chasing my arrows and, know, going to the next target.

(29:45):
And I just couldn't believe that I wasn't being winded.
Like I was just a few months ago, you know, I mean, I was carrying around an extra 50pounds and plus I wasn't even healthy.
And it's, it's so amazing just what nutrition does to your body.
I just can't believe it.
But, you know, I, I just don't think that would have happened without listening to apodcast like yours.

(30:11):
You know, you, you got such a good, a good podcast and a good foundation for the podcast.
And then on top of it, there's another guy out there that's going through the same, kindof the same thing that I am.
with just being disgusted with how I'm feeling about my body.

(30:32):
And it was time for a change.
I think the getting healthy part and losing weight helped you to be more adventurous andto want to be out there more and to go do those cool things, which, know, living life and
being the best you and being healthy enough to go do those adventures.
I think that's the coolest thing that came out of it.
I feel like we never would have been able to do what we did with you a few months ago.

(30:55):
And I've always been adventurous, you know, but just to get up off the couch and go do itis the hard part.
And when, when you don't feel good to go do it either, it doesn't help anything.
No, because you make up excuses to go because when you don't feel good and I learn, mean,I put this out there because I want people to either have the conversation or see how I'm

(31:25):
going.
Cause I'm, I'm to that 30 pounds myself.
And I told Cindy today, I said, you know, you look at this six, seven months ago, Iwouldn't feel like I did when I came off of Crow Peak this morning because
My leg body would hurt and stuff.
And it's interesting when you go through the health, the health, getting healthier processis when you start eating whole foods, when you start eating real foods, like whole

(31:56):
vegetables and whole meat.
mean, not that we didn't eat all meat because we're hunters and stuff, but how your bodystarts like that first
that first time you got to want to do it.
Cause I told you like, I probably won't eat asparagus for a while, but it was because mybody's just like at that point when I was doing that, my body's just saying enough is

(32:23):
enough.
I want some processed food and I wouldn't give it at processed food.
And now I have no pain.
And I've told people I have torn meniscus, have
arthritis in my knees and Dr.
Ray Jensen just is like shaking his head.
Like this is amazing stuff.
and, know, Melissa Aberle, my functional doctor, she's going, I can't believe this stuff,but it's also doing, you know, you're eating, right?

(32:54):
You're exercising, you're cold plunging.
I believe in that.
I, uh, doing the saunas, all that stuff.
And I, I've just become a
better person for myself, which leads me to more adventures, which gives you more goals,which gives you all kinds of stuff.
And I'm not, I don't know about you guys.

(33:15):
And if you notice this, cause I'm just thought of this, but like I was cranky.
I, because when I wasn't doing this, I was in a bad mood because I just didn't feel good.
So that's also helped my relationship with Cindy too, in the fact that I'm not cranky.
like I was, like, you know, those little things that just irritate, you know, that justkind of keep on just like that burr under a saddle, you know, or that rock in your shoe or

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something.
I don't know, but I'm not that way.
I just am happier.
I'm a better person.
you want to get up and you want to do something, whether it's for your wife or your kidsor whatever.
It's like before I would just sit on the couch or, you know, I'd be a little bit more lazyand the kids would come in and they would say, hey, dad, you want to go fishing or do you

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want to, ah you know, just do something simple?
And I'd just make an excuse and say, no, you know, and now it's like,
Yeah, let's let's go do it.
You know, I I feel a lot better to be able to do that.
I think we've noticed a difference in us, too.
Like I just told them today, I said, I feel like we're always grilling.

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We're always cooking like, you know, now we're just constantly making good proteins andwe're doing it together, you know, and it's fun.
But and we enjoy doing it.
And now we're just constantly going out.
We go on walks morning.
We go on walks in the evening.
We're getting up early now and we're going out before work.
We're just.
We just never would have wanted to do that before.

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Now we have all this motivation because we know how we feel and it's just nice that we'redoing it together, I guess.
It is, and I love seeing that.
So, you know, I love, I love that we had the, the got to experience that together out hereand, you know, the stakes in the morning and the, the, exercise.

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so I'm going to go, I'm going to kind of go in a different direction here.
So we went to, we went to Custer and we, I'm going to get back to the DDR experience.
didn't finish that yet.
to Custer.
No.
And I was having trouble.
I'm embarrassed people out there that know me because I love Elk and we were not seeingElk and we were seeing all kinds of other things and we were driving through the hills.

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And I have to admit that I took you on a few little hikes, I was hoping that we might seesomething, but we didn't.
But they were pretty hikes.
I mean, they were short, but they were pretty.
And then we finally just about to the end, we see a bunch of elk.
So that was awesome.
And so it was a long day.

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So we.
saw three herds.
Yes.
And that's awesome.
Finally, I felt like I was complete.
Yeah, I think we had already given up by that point.
I'll tell you, I gave up on wearing my seatbelt.
I kept putting it on and off and it was just a bumpy ride.
It was insane.

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I put it on for safety and then I was locking in my seatbelt the whole time.
So I take it off and that was the back seat.
I don't know what you guys are feeling in the front seat.
uh
I was feeling disappointment is what I was feeling.
Like I promised him I'd find him some milk and I haven't seen nothing.

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But it was a fun long day with good conversations.
Walking up to the second pond and you guys getting to see that area and our conversationsand the fresh air and like I said,
By the time we got done with the second pond, I was getting tired and luckily we had agate opener Annie.

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So we didn't have to get out and do any of that stuff.
And we, and we can make fun of him like hoping he didn't close the gate on him on thewrong side of the fence and stuff like that, you know, and.
eh
enough gates to know which side of the fence to be on right now.
But it was in the end then we got down the canyon and you got you spotted the mountaingoat way up on the side of the hill, which was awesome.

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m And we stopped and watched that and we get to the spearfish.
have Leone's for supper because we were all for all doggone tired.
And we went to bed.
We get up at 3.30.
I think it was 3.30 in the morning then.

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And, and you know, after you tell me this Annie, that you're scared of heights and I lovethat we had the conversations up because that's my Sunday church.
Climbing that mountain is my, is my church and we get there.

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and we're walking with the headlamps on and we're getting to the top.
And even though the fire, the smokes was coming in, you got to experience what I get toexperience on a regular day.
That's my regular thing to go do.

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And for me to be able to share that with cool people, and you know what makes me happieris,
that you guys took it in.
that picture I took of you guys looking off in the sun that I sent you, and if anybodylooks at that reel that I did last week, it's the last picture of my reel.

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That made me feel like they get it.
Yeah, yeah, it was that that moment was uh was just beautiful up there.
um You know, like you say, the the smoke came in and and, you know, kind of blocked alittle bit of the sun for for pictures.
But, you know, we got to see the sunrise and and we got to see that it was almost a fullmoon.

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I think the day before was a full moon.
And, you know, that that moon was out and it was vibrant and
You know, it wasn't necessarily lighting the path because our headlights were lighting thepath for us.
you know, I, it was just neat seeing that being up that early and seeing the moon and, andthen you get to the top of the mountain and what Rick, you just know exactly when to leave

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because, we got up there right, you know, about five minutes before the sunrise came upand, know, we just got to, got to experience that, that whole moment of being up there.
And yeah, yeah, I think the whole way up was cool.
It was all different terrain.
I was taking it all in.
mean, I didn't look out very much because it was very.

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It made me kind of dizzy because it was so dark and we just had the headlamps, but thelight started coming out a little bit, and then it was like grassy, then it was sandy and
then it was like all rocks and then, you know, it was super steep and then we'd go downand it was just crazy.
we've we've been hiking before.
But that must've been like Minnesota hiking.

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I didn't know, I didn't know how cool it could be and how thrilling it could be to be soclose to the edge and on a tight trail and then a steep spot and then different terrain
and you know, and then to get to the top, I don't think I've ever been that high beforeeither, you know, and just the reward you get in the end after all the beautiful things

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you saw up on the way.
or ever gotten up that early and done a hike either.
So that was also exciting.
I've been on a lot of mountains before and uh I've been at the summit of a of mountains ornot a lot of mountains, but a couple of them.
But I don't think I've ever hiked to the top of a mountain.

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And that was that was really neat to be able to do that and do it with Annie and do itwith you and.
um
You were more excited to do it with Rick.
He's been talking about it ever since he watched your first podcast.
Yeah.
And we did, we actually did make an attempt to go out there and climb Crow Peak.

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um So when we moved to South Dakota in October, um we had about a week that we werehomeless.
Basically we sold our house in Minnesota and we uh were buying a house in South Dakota.
And there was a week where we were.
we were homeless and I said, well, let's go out to the black Hills.

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We're moving to South Dakota.
Let's go experience the black Hills.
And we got out to, uh, we went to the bad lands and a few things like that.
And we got out to spearfish finally, and we were driving up to, up to Crow peak and the,the, the rain just started coming down and we got parked at the, at the parking lot and

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We're getting our stuff out and it's getting a little bit heavier.
And I think we made it about, I don't know, 150 yards up the trail.
And I just looked at everybody and I said, this isn't going to work.
We're not going to make it.
And oh so we had to turn around and we didn't get to do it.
So it was super exciting that you invited us out and we were able to actually climb it.

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And it was exciting too, because when we got up to the top, you know, I told you where wewere, some really cool pictures are, and we took them after we got to the top.
But those two young girls that were up there just enjoying it too.
that gave me hope for the millennial generation.
I think we're still in the millennial generation, but ah they were just enjoying itthemselves, like being little school girls and laughing and giggling.

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And they took our pictures and.
enjoyed they were enjoying what they had even though they weren't really dressed forhiking they at least they made it to the top.
I was surprised they even beat you up there, Rick.
Yeah, and they definitely they definitely weren't dressed for hunting.

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mean, given their outfits and their boots and their I don't know, we like got hiking shoesand you had your hiking sticks and yeah, they just were out there, which I was as parents
of teenagers, that was very encouraging to see that these girls just
That's all they wanted to do.
Get up at three in the morning and go climb a mountain.

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And that was fun to see.
And then, know, it's like, I have my, you know, if I drink a little bit more than I needto at times, and then we start coming down the mountain and then I have to pee and then
Annie took the lead.
Yeah, I don't know how you guys let me in.

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You're lucky we made it off the mountain.
Yeah, Annie sometimes have trouble finding your car in the parking lot.
But yeah.
Well, there was actually one way out, so we were good there.
the other interesting thing is it's funny how days, like some days you never see anybodyand all of a sudden everybody's just like coming up the mountain.

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And that was interesting too.
But it was fun to have you guys there.
And like I said, have the sun come up and learn like the freedom that I've, mean,
the freedom that we feel, like the views that you, and I know you're going to come backout again and hopefully we don't have smoke in the air.

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So you get to see these ones or clouds for sure.
I mean, I like clouds, but I don't like it's so foggy that you can't or cloudy.
can't see anything, but to come and see, cause I say that this is one of the mostwonderful views in the black Hills.
Cause I honestly believe it beats, beats, Harney peak or black elk and

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a lot of other views in the hills and I want you to be able to see the grandeur of thisplace.
Well, we definitely did.
Even though it was hazy, I could still see the layers of the mountains and the depth ofhow far we could see and the height and the different hills and mountains.

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I mean, it was still just so breathtaking.
And I remember us talking and just thinking all these people out there sleeping, you know,they're not even awake.
And we're just out here enjoying this absolutely gorgeous view that we worked so hard for.
It was, was a cool feeling.
Yeah.
You mentioned those, uh, those people that were coming up too, that we met on the way downand, know, it's kind of funny.

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As soon as we started down, there was a guy that was just making the summit and he asked,you know, did you make it for the sunrise?
And we said, yeah, we did, you know, and, and he said, I just missed it, you know, and thenext group that we met, they asked us, did you see the sunrise?
And we said, yeah, we did.
And we just missed it.

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And I think it was even the next group asked us if we saw the sunrise and everybody knowsthat the sunrise is beautiful at the top, but you you just, got to get out of bed to go
see it.
And if you're not on time, you're not going to, you're not going to make it.
So.
No.
so I, I've, I've pushed it hard a few times there.

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I've, the sun was just coming over the horizon and I said, you know, I need to be up hereand sit and be prepared and take it in before it does that.
And so that's why we get up early and we go, we, know, those girls are the first people tobeat me in a long time, which maybe they hadn't slept that night.

(47:44):
Who knows?
But no, but.
It's right.
And they started earlier than us.
you know, so that, yeah.
But, and then, you know, we get to the vehicle and, and it's funny because I ask Dave,what size shoes he wears and you're going, what are you talking about?

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And well, we're going to do a cold punch.
You said perfect.
That was it.
uh Well, that was an odd question.
uh
Well, we're going to go jump in the creek and do a cold plunge.
And then Annie says, well, I'm going to do it too.

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I thought, well, thank you.
Cause now we'll have to figure out how to videos thing, you know, but it was awesomebecause we came back here, changed shoes, you know, and changed.
And then we went and jumped in the creek and
You got to experience the cold plunge.

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And what I'm impressed with Annie is she said, wouldn't, you know, there's a couple ofsteep parts in, uh, on, on Crow Peak.
And then you said you would have never went and jumped in the creek like we did.
Well, we didn't jump in the creek people.
We w I said, here's the deal.
You gotta, you gotta rip the bandaid off.
When you jump, when you get in the water, there is no stopping.

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You just don't slowly go in.
You got to go to the deep end quick.
And you guys did that.
Yeah, you're a good encourager.
I, you pushed me to the limits on a lot of things last weekend.
So I was, and I'm so glad you did.
Yeah.
I didn't think Annie was going to do the cold plunge.
I don't even think we asked her if she wanted to.

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What about my shoe?
I want to go.
Yeah, no, no way did I ever think that she was going to do that.
But yeah, we all, all three of us, we, we jumped in there and.
And I think it was three minutes.
So we stayed in there and it was, we were, were chilly at the end.

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I don't know how cold that Creek is, but it's a, it's mountain water flowing past yourbody.
It's and it's, it is freezing cold.
My body felt like it was on fire when I got out, like burning that it definitely, wedefinitely got to the core.

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But did you stay cool most of the way home too?
You know, did you feel it come out of your body?
Like that's what I love about jumping in there and staying in there.
it, cause it feels like even when your skin warms up on the outside, you know, like afteran hour or so, it still feels like the muscles are still letting the coolness come out.

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You know, it's hard to explain, but
That's why I love just go jump in there, just hang in there and then don't, don't take ashower or anything.
Just dry off, change your clothes and warm up slowly.
you get, I, I honestly think you get about four hours or longer of just staying cool.

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Well, and you're, I just can't imagine the health benefits.
mean, just that whole time we went straight back to your place, changed and then did thepodcast.
And I just liked that energy and the vibe and your body was just kind of like rejuvenatedand excited.
It's like a big jolt of caffeine.
I don't know.
was for me anyways, it was, I just felt very, very much alive and energetic.

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And my body was like thriving and working.
It was cool.
Especially after doing a climb up the mountain, know, your muscles are all sore andthey're, you know, they're at least our muscles aren't used to that type of thinking.
I think that cold punch, it probably helped, you know, to relieve some of that sorenessthat was potentially going to come on.

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And it, yeah, cause I truly believe that too.
That's why I like to jump in and cool off and you know, and it's not right away, but cooloff.
And I just haven't, I mean, I'm not telling everybody what to do, but I just haven't hadinflammation problems.
don't, I don't do it.
we talked about, I wouldn't do it with snow on the ground.

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That's just not me.
I might.
do a cold plunge in my bathtub, but I'm not gonna go jump in a freezing like when the,cause in spirit fish, the creek freezes from the bottom up.
When we talk about that, I'm not gonna slip and fall and hurt my head.
You know, there's other things that can go on there, but I just think that it's a goodthing to go do.

(52:39):
And I miss Dr.
Jensen cause we used to do the fire and ice, but we'll do that.
I'm looking forward for you guys to come back out again.
I I sent you a video this morning of the sunrise and wishing you guys were here.
And I want you to know that I think about you guys and you sent me one that you guys wereout on the walk.

(53:01):
And I appreciate that because there's a friendship here that is, like I said, it's nowyou're part of the Dorda Rusty family and that's the way it is.
And I enjoy.
I enjoy that we think similarly and I enjoy that you don't realize when you're doingpodcasts or episodes, because people don't really say much.

(53:27):
just, you listen, but I don't get any feedback at times.
And it's fun to get the feedback and to know that you guys listen and you like...
It makes you feel good inside and then to be able to have you guys come out and experienceDDR and experience what I'm trying to give the world and that makes me happy.

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Yeah, I hope that we're not the only ones that enjoy what you're doing.
um And I hope that if there's other people out there that they'll they contact you as welland let you know that it's affecting them.
know, it's because it's huge when you can affect somebody's life.

(54:18):
You know, I think the first time I met you when at TAC there, um I told you I said
You changed my life.
Like your podcast changed my life in several different ways.
And, you know, I, I truly don't think that I'd be this healthy right now.
And it's only been since March.

(54:39):
Um, and it's August now.
And I, I definitely wouldn't be this healthy without hearing what you have to say.
And, um, I think just listening to your podcast just.
gets me outdoors even more.
You know, I already loved it, but it, it gets me out there more, you know?

(55:01):
Well, and it's changed our family too.
Like I started the health journey before you for medical health reasons, and then youlistened to the podcast and got into it.
And then it, in turn, our teamwork led into our family and it's changed our entirehousehold.
So it's been a huge impact on our family.
So.

(55:22):
We thank you.
Yeah.
And my extended family is even talking about it to us too.
Like, what are you doing?
Where did you find all this?
And we get to tell them.
Well, I love spreading the word there.
And we need to thank Ziggy Cordon, Cordon for, from Bucks and Bales for like, that's wherewe both have the same, know, he called me up and said, Hey, do you want to do a podcast?

(55:52):
And then he found out that I was a bow hunter and this and that, and then you're goodfriends with Ziggy too.
So that's very cool.
it's really neat how the whole relationship started, you know, with Ziggy.
I mean, it was just a fluke thing that we got invited to a pumpkin carving deal with ourkids.

(56:13):
And Ziggy called me up a few months later, like several months later, and asked me if Iwanted to go hunting with him at Camp Ripley in Minnesota.
And I immediately said yes, you know, I barely knew the guy and just said yes.
And that, you know, that's, that's how our relationship started.

(56:35):
And we've been going to this hunt every, ever since uh for the past seven or eight years.
And then for him to call you up, just listening to one of your podcast, um, must'vetouched him and, and I listened to his podcast and that's how I got to know, got to hear
you.
And that's how our relationship started was, was all because of.

(56:59):
Ziggy and some pumpkin carving get together we were supposed to be at.
Just listening to you say that all back, makes me feel like if you want to think about theDon't Die Rusty motto in life, I did not know those girls very well from a homeschool

(57:19):
co-op.
And I just got invited and I didn't know anybody.
And it happened to be a couples thing.
We could bring our kids.
So I took that leap.
And then that leap led to Ziggy calling you a couple months later, total stranger.
And you just said, yes, I'll go.
And then you took that leap, you know, and just all these things.

(57:42):
just like, don't know what this adventure is gonna take you on, what's gonna come out ofit.
It's you don't know these people.
And then you met him and you just said, yeah, I'll come stay at your house and I'll bringmy wife and we'll do these crazy things like.
just taking those leaps in life, you know, and saying, yes, I will do them.
And so many rewards out of it.

(58:03):
And then just makes you feel so good.
And the things you never, you would have missed out on if you didn't do it.
So.
And, and, that was, I forgot about us talking about the saying yes part two, because youknow, in life we take a lot of chances.
Like you come into a guy's house that you barely even know, you know, you know me frommaybe talking on podcasts, but you don't, you know, and maybe talking 20, maybe 25 minutes

(58:37):
of that at tech and
Well, we're going to just go stay at his house.
And it's like, if he is a uh serial killer or something?
don't know, but it's awesome.
know?
wife happened to be out of town and you know, was just all so suspicious.
Let me take you out to the middle of nowhere and we'll try to find elk.

(59:01):
uh Well, yeah, it's funny that my wife also said it's funny that you have people comingout and I'm not here either.
So uh I was kind of stuck in the middle there, but she was up seeing her son and she's,you know, she's going to be a grandma and enjoying life with her son just before he was

(59:25):
going to be a dad.
that's what's
That's what life's about is being rewarded from living a good life.
she, you know, I mean, I encourage, I encourage her, I encouraged her, said, your son'sgonna have, Connor's gonna have a baby here in September and you need to go hang out with

(59:49):
him because life's gonna change and take these four days and enjoy life.
Cause then it's grandma life too, you know?
And some of the best converse and don't take me, even though I like Alaska, don't take mebecause the conversations that you have with your anybody alone is those are precious

(01:00:13):
times.
And I remember, I will remember my mom and my conversations and vehicles and other privatetimes that you don't talk in front of other people at those times.
You probably have those with your kids, you know when you're alone with one of them youhave a private conversation They're that they don't want to talk in front of maybe our

(01:00:35):
brother sister friend dad mom Whatever, you know, and those are the times that areprecious in this life
Yeah, that's that's nice.
I think we had talked about that too in your guys's relationship.
It's like you kind of let her go do her thing and she lets you do your thing and it's justa great example of what you know, and then you guys do things together.

(01:00:56):
It's just a good balance.
I think you guys are good example of that.
And it's the saying yes, it's the, like, without saying yes and coming out here, you wouldnot have got to experience without me saying, hey, come on out anytime, you know.

(01:01:17):
uh Those are the things that we, more people need to say yes instead of worry about, youknow, we get closed in and well,
What if the neighbor mows his lawn and I didn't have my lawn?
I'm just using this as example.
I didn't have mine mowed, but you know what?
I can mow when I get back from that adventure.
I don't care what's going on in this town or you go to coffee.

(01:01:42):
I mean, like in a little town, you go to coffee.
What am I going to miss?
Well, you talked about the same problems yesterday and you'll probably talk about the sameproblems tomorrow.
And so go on those adventures, go.
live your best life in it.
And I love that we got to do that and we get to do that and we're going to do more becauseI'm excited like to take you up on a snowy day too.

(01:02:09):
And I'm excited to see where this friendship goes because you you can't have a friendshipif you don't try to start a friendship.
So take those chances.
exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you don't if you don't just put yourself out there and you know, it doesn't evenhave to be a friendship, but just, you know, put yourself in an uncomfortable situation.

(01:02:35):
You're never going to know if you like it or not.
You know, I mean, you just have to try to experience new things.
And, you know, if you don't like it, don't do it again.
Yeah, I feel like coming back from that weekend.
it has motivated us even more to, well, continue in our health journey for one, justbecause we were very surprised at how our bodies performed and how we couldn't have done

(01:03:03):
that a few months prior.
And let alone got ourselves to do it and then to suffer through it.
And I wouldn't say suffer through it, but like push through it and then get to the top andhave the reward.
don't know about you, but for me, I'm just like, I want to continue to eat healthy and Iwant to continue to build my muscles.
And not just to like look good, but to feel good and to be able to experience life.

(01:03:26):
And I just came away from that weekend feeling very alive and very proud of myself forperforming that way because of how I've taken the change in my life to be healthier.
I just, want everyone to feel that.
That's why I'm so excited about it.
And I do too.
it's funny because, you know, I mean, I set my alarms to, I want my alarm to go off atcertain times.

(01:03:53):
So I know we need to either speed up or we're doing all right or where we are.
And you heard the alarm go off and I have, I've been giving you kudos there, Annie,because you, we had to haul just a little bit, go a little bit faster.
And I started pushing a little bit harder and you, you were amazing.

(01:04:13):
That was, that was awesome.
You know, and we got there in good amount of time, but I just don't want us to missanything.
He missed that part of the sunrise.
And so we pushed hard and the last little bit and you, you were impressive.
I had you in front of me and I really couldn't look up because I was very scared ofheights.

(01:04:38):
Kind of looked at my surroundings right in front of me with my headlamp.
Then I had Dave behind me.
So I had a lot of motivation to just keep on going.
I had a stick back there.
I was cracking the whip.
No uh
helped too.
We had a lot of good talk, that was good.

(01:05:00):
And you know, you know, it just about makes me someday think about having a DDR summitweekend or something where you get a few, get a bunch of like minded people together and
just kind of do that kind of enjoyable stuff because I learned so much from you guys and Igot inspired that we are doing a good thing here.

(01:05:24):
Didi, don't die rusty and, and to
You make me happy to know that, you know?
Good.
You should feel that way.
We appreciate you, Rick.
Well, well, thank you.
Now I'll go tell Cindy that you said that.

(01:05:45):
So maybe she'll say it to me.
I'm just kidding.
uh No, I have a very great wife and I tell her that all the time, but you know, I'm goingto get, when we get to the end of that episode, now you've had another week to think.
Well, I'm going to, and before I ask that, so how was your trip home?

(01:06:06):
Cause the funny thing about
The funny thing about the episode, the lost episode we can say is I was in a hurry becauseI had to get Cindy from the airport because she was in Alaska.
And, but I was, I was wondering, how was your trip home?
How did you, know, how did you have good conversations?

(01:06:29):
And, oh I know Dave fell asleep.
I'm sleeping.
Annie drove to, what do you drive to?
Chamberlain, I think.
Yeah.
She drove for a couple hours while I slept.
So, because we got up pretty early that morning.
But, but yeah, our, conversation.

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We stopped for lunch before we left.
Where did, what was that club?
Yeah.
We stopped over by Sawyers there.
The, was a farm.
It was a white, white place.
Yeah, that was really good.
We had a good lunch over there and then we started home and yeah, I fell asleep rightaway.
It was good.

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The house was still intact when we got home, so that was always good.
Kids were alive.
that is, that is good feeling there.
Nobody had black eyes or bloody nose, did they?
no, was even the house was even clean.
So that was good.
Oh my gosh, that's awesome.

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Well, I'm glad to hear that.
So now I, I, I love the adventure and I hope we have more and I hope we can talk aboutmore with more people about these kinds of experiences.
So, but when we get to the end of the episode, we asked this final question and now you'vehad a week to think about this.
Not really, because I'd called you this morning and said, we need to do another episodebecause the

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Rick screwed up somehow anyway.
But what's the good life to Dave and what's the good life to Annie?
Yeah, so I feel like I've had a long time to think about this since I started listening toyour episodes.
You I ask myself just about every time we, I listen to an episode, you know, what's thegood life to myself?

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And, you know, I think it changes on a weekly basis.
know, it, maybe not a weekly basis, but you know, definitely changes all the time.
But, you know, I...
You know, I have my family, I've got five kids and they're definitely part of my goodlife.

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And, you know, we have a lot of adventures together.
But, you know, I think really the good life to me is just living the don't die rustyphilosophy and, you know, getting yourself healthy and getting yourself to be able to

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just enjoy the outdoors and, um, or, or it doesn't even have to be the outdoors, justwhatever it is.
uh But the, outdoors are special to me and hunting and, fishing and scuba diving and,know, just all the, all the outdoors hobbies that I have.

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And, you know, I just, I just love that now I can enjoy it even
more.
um Just having this health journey under control and being able to, like I said, just getup off the couch and actually go do something.

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When something arises, you say yes and you go do it instead of making an excuse.
yeah.
Hard to follow.
Yeah, he summed that up really well.
Living the good life to me, I think is...
as a mom and a wife.

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And it is just about my relationship with my husband and my kids.
Obviously those are the most important to me.
And then my family, my extended family, and just making sure I enjoy all the momentstogether with all of them, every moment.
It doesn't, it could be small, it can be big.
Being present and not worrying all the time or thinking about the fear of missing out orwhat's next or all those things.

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Just being.
present, enjoying the small things.
I enjoy just sitting on the couch with my kids and looking at them.
Look at the beautiful creatures that they are and enjoying the walks together or justriding in the car together.
And then you've got the big experiences of, you know, hiking with Dave and our morning andevening walks and just being present is the biggest thing for me, I think.

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And then, you know, from a homeschooling perspective is
I just feel like it means everything in my life to raise good boys.
Someday they are going to leave the nest and they're gonna be fathers, they're gonna behard workers is what I'm training them to be and just good people on this earth.

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And that's a huge goal of mine and I feel very blessed to be doing it.
um And then just teaching them also just about faith.
and religion and what they believe in and what their purpose on this life is and why we'rehere.
so yeah, just being present and fulfilling my dream of raising my children and having afamily and doing everything I can to foster that.

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It makes me very happy.
It brings a lot of joy.
Well, that I like both of those and I was going to I was going to get to the faith parttwo and and I forgot to and I'm glad you brought that up because that's another thing that
I think is I like our similar views on that stuff too because It's becoming a bigger partof Don't die rusty and a little bit more, you know, but it's always been there

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But that's an important part of life and is to believe in something bigger than yourself.
And I think we're getting to those points.
So thank you for bringing that up.
uh It is awesome.
And to watch a strong woman handle six boys, well, five boys and one husband.

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And that's awesome too.
So, you know, I appreciate that because
because we're in the same, you know, I mean, we have same views and stuff that makes mevery, very happy.
And a lot of times in the Don't Die Rusty, when we get to that question, it's about thegood people.

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And then thank you for being in the circle now.
I appreciate that.
us.
You have a lot of cool people on your podcast and I didn't think we were that cool.
So thank you for having us.
Yeah.
Thank you, Rick.
It's nice to be in the DDR family.
Well, it's the conversations that we had, know, it's, we've had a lot of goodconversations and we'll have more and hopefully we'll have another episode that won't go

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screwy, array, awry.
And, but I want, maybe when we have a slight snow on the trees and the sparkling and thefresh morning and a nice climb up the mountain, but.
uh
No, I truly appreciate you two and I appreciate you coming out and I appreciate theforward friendship is going, know.

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um So, but you guys are awesome.
uh Awesome couple.
People should, I truly look at you and say, how does Annie do it and how does Dave do it?
you know, I mean, I've never experienced.
children in from baby to adult and and That's a lot of work and This boy doesn't like towork in that aspect is because I've never changed a diaper in my whole life And I just go

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like this I Like like with my sisters being the good uncle I am I would play with them andthen I'd say here I think it needs changed
hand them off.
You're just like my father-in-law.
I'm sure you've got your strengths in other ways.

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You'll get them outdoors and, you know, benefit it later.
Yeah, there we go.
So, but I want to thank you guys for being on the podcast and I enjoyed this wholeconversation.
I hope we have many more.
So.
inviting us on the podcast and thank you for inviting us out and showing us a good DDRexperience.

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Yeah, it was great.
That's awesome.
So don't die rusty nation.
Keep chasing your dreams, being the best you and don't die rusty.