Back in 2015, journalist Gemma Hartley wrote an article for Harper's Bazaar that went viral. The article was about emotional labor & it really hit home for so many people - in fact 2 BILLION people read it. It led to Gemma writing a book on the topic & coming up with some real solutions to this incredibly familiar experience.
Gemma is the author of Fed Up; Navigating & Redefining Emotional Labour For Good.
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Fed Up; Navigating & Redefining Emotional Labour For Good.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:55 - The Mother's Day that led Gemma to write the book
00:03:30 - What is emotional labor?
00:06:35 - Society assumes women are the default parent
00:08:00 - The mindset of 'helping out'
00:10:40 - What happened when Gemma's husband became the full time at home parent
00:12:30 - The response to 'stop being such a control freak'
00:15:00 - Setting shared standards
00:19:00 - Emotional labor for men in the dating period
00:21:12 - Why Gemma no longer asks for 'help' at home
00:25:11 - How to explain the problem without it becoming a fight
00:30:18 - Why taking on the emotional labor can make partners' lives richer
00:33:15 - Having the expectation that this is going to require more than a single conversation
00:36:16 - Taking on the emotional labor of addressing emotional labor (!!)
00:40:30 - It's okay to leave if someone isn't meeting you where you are
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