December 25, 2024 • 8 mins
In this short episode of "Enthusiastic Encouragement and Dubious Advice," hosts Patricia and Nicole celebrate various winter holidays, discuss the absurdity of the "12 Days of Christmas" song, and offer ways for listeners to support the podcast through Patreon or by sharing it with others. They touch on the mixed feelings people may have about the holiday season and emphasize being gentle with oneself. The episode concludes with plans for the next show, which will focus on goal setting for 2025.
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Music (00:00):
[Intro music]
Patricia (00:15):
Hey there, Hot Toddies, welcome to Enthusiastic Encouragement
and Dubious Advice, the podcast forfolks who would rather curl into
the fetal position than lean in.
I'm your host, Patricia Elzie-Tuttle.
Nicole (00:26):
And I hope you're all safe from the Yule Cat.
I'm Nicole Elzie-Tuttle.
We are recording this showon December 16th, 2024.
Patricia (00:34):
It is going to be a short episode today, but before we get
into it, if you are still looking forgifts or something to give, you can
subscribe to our Patreon and give agift to us and yourself, or you can
also gift a Patreon subscription.
If you go to patreon.com/eedapod/gift,you can then gift anywhere
(00:59):
from 1 to 12 months to someone.
Also, you can shop in our bookshop, and Iwill put that link in the show notes, but
it is also on our website at eedapod.com.
There's a bookshop link rightat the top of the webpage.
Nicole (01:14):
And if you'd like to give us a gift that is not one that
comes with paying us directly, youcan share our show with someone who
you think would really enjoy it.
Or, leave us a review on ApplePodcasts, or Spotify, or YouTube,
or wherever else you're listeningto us that allows for ratings.
Music (01:36):
[Transition Music]
Patricia (01:45):
So, today's show drops on December 25th.
Yule slash Winter Solsticewas a few days ago.
If you're listening to this show when itdrops, today is Christmas Day, Hanukkah
starts tonight, and also today is thefirst day of Christmas in the 12 Days
of Christmas song, poem, whatever.
(02:06):
So shove those partridges intoa pear tree and hand it over.
Nicole (02:10):
There was a lot of birds in that song, and I feel like if over the course
of 12 days, like Christmas and then intothe new year, you gifted me 184 birds?
One, why are you alsogiving me 35 gold rings?
I don't have that many fingers and toes.
But that's really not gonnamake up for the fact that now
(02:32):
I have to care for 184 birds?
Patricia (02:35):
So I heard, and I haven't confirmed, but there's speculation that
the gold rings also refer to birds.
So there might even be more birds.
Nicole (02:46):
Yeah, I've heard some stuff like that, too.
Like, the lord's a leapingand stuff, we're also birds.
Patricia (02:51):
This can't be legal.
Nicole (02:52):
I, I, yeah.
There's a, there's an internetconspiracy theory or something
that all the gifts are birds.
Patricia (02:59):
All the gifts.
Nicole (02:59):
Just, it's all birds, all the way down.
Who needs that many birds?
Patricia (03:03):
I don't know.
Nicole (03:03):
Are we starting a bird zoo?
Patricia (03:05):
Are they pets or are they for eating?
I don't know.
Nicole (03:08):
I don't know.
Patricia (03:08):
I don't know.
Nicole (03:09):
Maybe they're for eating, but that's a lot of birds.
Patricia (03:11):
That's a lot of birds.
[Laughing]
Welcome to Birdapod.
Both (03:17):
[Laughing]
Patricia (03:21):
Anyway, we know that the holidays are a mixed bag.
Some folks really lovethe winter holidays.
And some folks don't for variousreasons, whether that reason is
capitalism, or grief, or familyestrangement, and the list goes on.
Nicole (03:38):
If part of that is family estrangement, just know that we
are your aunties, and we willtotally be celebrating with
you in whatever way you want.
And also, we want to recognizethat a lot of that holiday magic
Patricia (03:51):
Ooh
Nicole (03:53):
is really just the result of even more unpaid or
unrecognized labor by women.
Patricia (04:00):
So if you are the one out there making the holiday
magic for your family, we see you.
We hope that you are alsomaking some magic for yourself.
I personally have gone throughdifferent stages of loving
Christmas and hating Christmas.
My mother always loved it,even when we were super broke.
And my switch back into liking theseason came a few years ago when I
(04:26):
realized that I was spending so manyspell slots on hating Christmas, like
actively trying to avoid Christmascarols and being really bah humbug.
I was really making the seasonmore miserable than it had to be.
Nicole (04:45):
You were kind of visited by one of those, like, Jacob
Marley ghosts or something?
Patricia (04:50):
Mmm, I don't know about that.
Nicole (04:51):
Okay.
I don't...
For me, like, I've alwaysenjoyed the warmth of, like,
the winter holiday season.
In particular, like, thefamily time and the food.
But what I always kind of was mehabout was all the kind of work
that went into the decorating andall of the like, additional stuff.
(05:11):
In particular, like growing up, I wasnot super fond of the tree decorating.
The just boxes and boxes of ornaments tounpack and like, find every little gap in
the tree and fill it kind of situation.
I will say that since we'vegotten a tree, And spent, like,
last year decorating and stuff.
Like, I like, I don't know.
(05:32):
I really like doing it with you,so that's made it a little better.
Patricia (05:36):
Aw, thanks.
And last year was the firstyear we got a tree, too.
Nicole (05:40):
Yes.
If we get ours up this year, we'llhave to share it with the people.
Patricia (05:45):
Absolutely.
I finally realized that there areso many things I like about the
holiday season, and as an adult Iget to make it whatever I want to be.
And I want to remind all ofyou too, like, we get to make
things what we want them to be.
We're the adults.
And I do love Christmaslights and fairy lights.
(06:07):
I love giving gifts.
I love making treats.
I love hot cocoa.
And honestly, I can enjoy thesethings all winter, and it doesn't
have to be tied to the holiday.
Nicole (06:17):
So, whatever you're doing through the end of the year, we
hope you are finding joy in it,and being gentle with yourself.
Patricia (06:26):
I partake in a lot of New Year's traditions and superstitions,
and Kwanzaa starts tomorrow, so we'reusing today to celebrate and then
hitting the ground running once again.
Nicole (06:39):
Why are we running?
It's winter.
Patricia (06:41):
Not actually running.
No, I'm, if you ever see me running,it's because something is chasing me.
Nicole (06:47):
So if I ever see you running, I need to be running too.
Patricia (06:49):
Absolutely.
Nicole (06:50):
Okay, well.
Our next show after the new year, we'llbe talking about goal setting in 2025
and sneak peek how we'll be integratingit into Patreon for paid members.
Patricia (07:05):
Yes, I have some ideas.
Nicole (07:08):
That's good, because I don't know what they are.
Patricia (07:11):
Well, that's our show for today.
We'd like to thank our awesomeaudio editor, Jen Zink.
You can find her at loopdilou.com.
We'll leave a link tothat in our show notes.
Nicole (07:20):
You can find the full show notes and transcript at eedapod.com.
That's E E D A P O D dot com.
There, you can also find a link to ourPatreon, our Bookshop link, and a link
to the ongoing Enthusiastic Encouragementand Dubious Advice newsletter.
You can also find us on Instagramand BlueSky at eedapod and
(07:41):
email us at eedapod@gmail.com.
Patricia (07:44):
We are nothing if not consistent.
Nicole (07:46):
We would also appreciate it so much if you would give us a
lovely gift and rate us on ApplePodcasts, Spotify, or wherever you
get your podcasts that allow ratings.
It goes really far inhelping other people find us.
Patricia (07:59):
We would also appreciate anyone who can subscribe to us on Patreon.
Support there is going to help us keepthis show going, especially without ads.
You can find us at patreon.com/eedapod.
In the meantime, we hope youfind ways to be kind to yourself.
Drink some water and read a book.
We'll be talking to you soon.
Nicole (08:22):
Do you think we'll ever get that hippopotamus for Christmas?
Patricia (08:26):
Well, whoop dee doo,
Both (08:28):
and dickory dock.
Nicole (08:31):
And don't forget to hang up your socks.
Patricia (08:35):
I guess.
Nicole (08:36):
I don't know, Jen, we are delirious.
Patricia (08:39):
Happy New Year, Jen.
Nicole (08:41):
Happy New Year, everybody.
[Intro music]
Patricia (00:15):
Hey there, Hot Toddies, welcome to Enthusiastic Encouragement
and Dubious Advice, the podcast forfolks who would rather curl into
the fetal position than lean in.
I'm your host, Patricia Elzie-Tuttle.
Nicole (00:26):
And I hope you're all safe from the Yule Cat.
I'm Nicole Elzie-Tuttle.
We are recording this showon December 16th, 2024.
Patricia (00:34):
It is going to be a short episode today, but before we get
into it, if you are still looking forgifts or something to give, you can
subscribe to our Patreon and give agift to us and yourself, or you can
also gift a Patreon subscription.
If you go to patreon.com/eedapod/gift,you can then gift anywhere
(00:59):
from 1 to 12 months to someone.
Also, you can shop in our bookshop, and Iwill put that link in the show notes, but
it is also on our website at eedapod.com.
There's a bookshop link rightat the top of the webpage.
Nicole (01:14):
And if you'd like to give us a gift that is not one that
comes with paying us directly, youcan share our show with someone who
you think would really enjoy it.
Or, leave us a review on ApplePodcasts, or Spotify, or YouTube,
or wherever else you're listeningto us that allows for ratings.
Music (01:36):
[Transition Music]
Patricia (01:45):
So, today's show drops on December 25th.
Yule slash Winter Solsticewas a few days ago.
If you're listening to this show when itdrops, today is Christmas Day, Hanukkah
starts tonight, and also today is thefirst day of Christmas in the 12 Days
of Christmas song, poem, whatever.
(02:06):
So shove those partridges intoa pear tree and hand it over.
Nicole (02:10):
There was a lot of birds in that song, and I feel like if over the course
of 12 days, like Christmas and then intothe new year, you gifted me 184 birds?
One, why are you alsogiving me 35 gold rings?
I don't have that many fingers and toes.
But that's really not gonnamake up for the fact that now
(02:32):
I have to care for 184 birds?
Patricia (02:35):
So I heard, and I haven't confirmed, but there's speculation that
the gold rings also refer to birds.
So there might even be more birds.
Nicole (02:46):
Yeah, I've heard some stuff like that, too.
Like, the lord's a leapingand stuff, we're also birds.
Patricia (02:51):
This can't be legal.
Nicole (02:52):
I, I, yeah.
There's a, there's an internetconspiracy theory or something
that all the gifts are birds.
Patricia (02:59):
All the gifts.
Nicole (02:59):
Just, it's all birds, all the way down.
Who needs that many birds?
Patricia (03:03):
I don't know.
Nicole (03:03):
Are we starting a bird zoo?
Patricia (03:05):
Are they pets or are they for eating?
I don't know.
Nicole (03:08):
I don't know.
Patricia (03:08):
I don't know.
Nicole (03:09):
Maybe they're for eating, but that's a lot of birds.
Patricia (03:11):
That's a lot of birds.
[Laughing]
Welcome to Birdapod.
Both (03:17):
[Laughing]
Patricia (03:21):
Anyway, we know that the holidays are a mixed bag.
Some folks really lovethe winter holidays.
And some folks don't for variousreasons, whether that reason is
capitalism, or grief, or familyestrangement, and the list goes on.
Nicole (03:38):
If part of that is family estrangement, just know that we
are your aunties, and we willtotally be celebrating with
you in whatever way you want.
And also, we want to recognizethat a lot of that holiday magic
Patricia (03:51):
Ooh
Nicole (03:53):
is really just the result of even more unpaid or
unrecognized labor by women.
Patricia (04:00):
So if you are the one out there making the holiday
magic for your family, we see you.
We hope that you are alsomaking some magic for yourself.
I personally have gone throughdifferent stages of loving
Christmas and hating Christmas.
My mother always loved it,even when we were super broke.
And my switch back into liking theseason came a few years ago when I
(04:26):
realized that I was spending so manyspell slots on hating Christmas, like
actively trying to avoid Christmascarols and being really bah humbug.
I was really making the seasonmore miserable than it had to be.
Nicole (04:45):
You were kind of visited by one of those, like, Jacob
Marley ghosts or something?
Patricia (04:50):
Mmm, I don't know about that.
Nicole (04:51):
Okay.
I don't...
For me, like, I've alwaysenjoyed the warmth of, like,
the winter holiday season.
In particular, like, thefamily time and the food.
But what I always kind of was mehabout was all the kind of work
that went into the decorating andall of the like, additional stuff.
(05:11):
In particular, like growing up, I wasnot super fond of the tree decorating.
The just boxes and boxes of ornaments tounpack and like, find every little gap in
the tree and fill it kind of situation.
I will say that since we'vegotten a tree, And spent, like,
last year decorating and stuff.
Like, I like, I don't know.
(05:32):
I really like doing it with you,so that's made it a little better.
Patricia (05:36):
Aw, thanks.
And last year was the firstyear we got a tree, too.
Nicole (05:40):
Yes.
If we get ours up this year, we'llhave to share it with the people.
Patricia (05:45):
Absolutely.
I finally realized that there areso many things I like about the
holiday season, and as an adult Iget to make it whatever I want to be.
And I want to remind all ofyou too, like, we get to make
things what we want them to be.
We're the adults.
And I do love Christmaslights and fairy lights.
(06:07):
I love giving gifts.
I love making treats.
I love hot cocoa.
And honestly, I can enjoy thesethings all winter, and it doesn't
have to be tied to the holiday.
Nicole (06:17):
So, whatever you're doing through the end of the year, we
hope you are finding joy in it,and being gentle with yourself.
Patricia (06:26):
I partake in a lot of New Year's traditions and superstitions,
and Kwanzaa starts tomorrow, so we'reusing today to celebrate and then
hitting the ground running once again.
Nicole (06:39):
Why are we running?
It's winter.
Patricia (06:41):
Not actually running.
No, I'm, if you ever see me running,it's because something is chasing me.
Nicole (06:47):
So if I ever see you running, I need to be running too.
Patricia (06:49):
Absolutely.
Nicole (06:50):
Okay, well.
Our next show after the new year, we'llbe talking about goal setting in 2025
and sneak peek how we'll be integratingit into Patreon for paid members.
Patricia (07:05):
Yes, I have some ideas.
Nicole (07:08):
That's good, because I don't know what they are.
Patricia (07:11):
Well, that's our show for today.
We'd like to thank our awesomeaudio editor, Jen Zink.
You can find her at loopdilou.com.
We'll leave a link tothat in our show notes.
Nicole (07:20):
You can find the full show notes and transcript at eedapod.com.
That's E E D A P O D dot com.
There, you can also find a link to ourPatreon, our Bookshop link, and a link
to the ongoing Enthusiastic Encouragementand Dubious Advice newsletter.
You can also find us on Instagramand BlueSky at eedapod and
(07:41):
email us at eedapod@gmail.com.
Patricia (07:44):
We are nothing if not consistent.
Nicole (07:46):
We would also appreciate it so much if you would give us a
lovely gift and rate us on ApplePodcasts, Spotify, or wherever you
get your podcasts that allow ratings.
It goes really far inhelping other people find us.
Patricia (07:59):
We would also appreciate anyone who can subscribe to us on Patreon.
Support there is going to help us keepthis show going, especially without ads.
You can find us at patreon.com/eedapod.
In the meantime, we hope youfind ways to be kind to yourself.
Drink some water and read a book.
We'll be talking to you soon.
Nicole (08:22):
Do you think we'll ever get that hippopotamus for Christmas?
Patricia (08:26):
Well, whoop dee doo,
Both (08:28):
and dickory dock.
Nicole (08:31):
And don't forget to hang up your socks.
Patricia (08:35):
I guess.
Nicole (08:36):
I don't know, Jen, we are delirious.
Patricia (08:39):
Happy New Year, Jen.
Nicole (08:41):
Happy New Year, everybody.
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