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This episode of Girl, Undrunk picks up where the last left off—Heather and Zoe shift their focus from the chaotic world of dating, sex, and intimacy before sobriety to what those experiences look and feel like in recovery. The conversation explores how dating sober can be both terrifying and transformative, allowing for deeper authenticity, personal boundaries, and genuine connection. 

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Heather and Zoe rewind to their pre-sobriety dating lives, revealing the kinds of relationships they found themselves in while navigating addiction. They share personal stories about the partners they chose, the boundaries they ignored, and the ways alcohol influenced their sense of self-worth. This is part one of a two-part series on dating, starting with the past: who they were, who the...

Heather and Zoe confront the question: Am I an alcoholic? They unpack the subtle and not-so-subtle signs of alcohol dependence—from hiding bottles in purses to needing a drink just to go on a date—and how these moments felt “normal” until sobriety changed their perspective. They reflect on how alcohol quietly took control and how their paths to recovery began with asking the hard questions. 

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Heather and Zoe explore how healing often looks messy, nonlinear, and deeply personal — and how crucial it is to speak your truth, even when it's hard to hear or say out loud. Together, they reflect on what it means to sit with uncomfortable emotions rather than try to fix or rush past them. Because at the end of the day, only you know what's true to you. 

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In this laid-back episode of Girl Un Drunk, Heather and Zoe catch up on life, including Heather’s very first solo sober vacation in Tulum. They also dive into some of the feedback they've received about the podcast so far—both the supportive and the unexpected. From personal reflections to candid conversations, this episode is all about friendship, growth, and embracing new experiences. Of course, like any great chat w...

In this episode of Girl Un Drunk, Heather and Zoe explore what it really feels like to be stuck in the cycle—the exhaustion, the shame, and the sense of being trapped. They talk about waking up sick, lying to loved ones, and planning the day around their next drink. They start digging into the tougher parts of their journey, the difficult moments that challenged their sense of identity and pushed them to seek sobriety.

Drinking culture is everywhere—woven into our celebrations, our stress relief, and even our ideas of adulthood. But how much of that is by design? In this episode, Heather and Zoe take a hard look at the ways alcohol is marketed, normalized, and even weaponized—especially against women. From high school binge-drinking trips to the mommy wine industrial complex, they unpack the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways society encourages us t...

Fear plays a massive role in addiction, recovery, and just existing in the world—so let’s talk about it. In this episode, Heather and Zoe dive into the anxieties that come with getting sober, staying sober, and navigating life without alcohol as a safety net. Whether it’s the fear of missing out, facing hard emotions, or simply learning how to exist in a drinking world, they break it all down with honesty, humor, and real talk.

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Welcome to Girl, Undrunk. In this first episode, Heather and Zoe introduce themselves, share their sobriety stories, and dive into the highs, lows, and unexpected perks of life without alcohol. This isn’t a health and wellness podcast—it’s life or death (with a side of Diet Coke and ginger ale). Whether you're sober, sober-curious, or just along for the ride, you're in ...