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April 22, 2024 40 mins

What if you could try out a new career before committing? Turns out, you can! Discover how to use career experiments to test new careers without the commitment.

Learn what a career experiment looks like from the inside — Our guest, Bob Kalish, is currently experimenting with consulting after working as a concept chef for 24+ years!

In this episode, Bob explains how he found opportunities to experiment through his network, and exactly what he’s looking to have answered during his experiments.

What you’ll learn

  • How to design career experiments to validate your presumed ideal career and job search direction
  • The importance of testing out what you believe you want out of your next role before committing
  • Strategies for conducting paid research to explore potential career paths
  • Tips for leveraging your network and test-driving conversations to clarify your career change goals


Our book, Happen To Your Career: An Unconventional Approach To Career Change and Meaningful Work, is now available on audiobook! Visit to order it now! Visit for more information or buy the print or ebook here!

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Related Episodes

  1. Six Career Experiments To Help You Discover Your Ideal New Role (Spotify / Apple Podcasts)
  2. How to Figure Out What You Really Want (Spotify / Apple Podcasts)

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