March 18, 2025 • 17 mins
Last week on "Hey Dancer," I explored why dance might be considered a sport. This week, I’m turning the tables with Part II of my deep dive: "Why Dance Is Not a Sport."
I dive into the essence of dance beyond competition, highlighting its ancient origins, the subjectivity of competitions, and its core in artistic expression. Discover why trophies don't define dance, how it differs fundamentally from traditional sports, and why its value lies in the emotions and stories it conveys!
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Studies Cited (In Order of Appearance)
- UNESCO: “Prehistoric Dance Evidence,” 2005 – Notes cave drawings from 3300 BC showing dancers, highlighting dance’s ancient, non-competitive roots.
- Dance Data Project: “U.S. Dance Landscape,” 2022 – Reports 15% of U.S. dance is competitive, 85% is not.
- NCAA: “Sports Sponsorship and Participation Research,” 2015 – Finds in areas with less pro basketball exposure, high school-to-college basketball participation drops 40% over years.
- British Journal of Sports Medicine (BJSM): “Dancer Endurance Study,” 2018 – Shows dancers match marathon runners’ stamina.
- New Yorker: Atul Gawande, “Surgeons as Athletes,” 2011 – Compares surgeons’ endurance and skill to athletes.
- Stuntmen’s Association: “Stunt Training Report,” 2020 – Reports some stunt doubles out-train Olympians.
- Journal of Sports Science (JSS): “Gymnast Training Goals,” 2020 – Finds 90% of gymnasts train for competition by age 10.
- Dance Educators of America (DEA): “Global Dance Student Survey,” 2023 – Shows most kids worldwide start dance for fun/expression, not trophies.
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Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
Welcome to "Hey, Dancer."
(00:04):
I'm your host, Miller Daurey, and I'm just really glad to have you here.
I appreciate you clicking play.
I appreciate your support.
Speaking of that, may I say, I'm always a little self-conscious like Will it come off,
self-boasting, or bragadocious, but I recently was informed that this podcast at this time
(00:24):
is a top-ranked podcast.
One apple under the category of "performing arts."
It's in the top 40.
Not only that, but for two weeks running, the number one dance podcast.
What?
That's very exciting, and I'm just sincerely appreciative.
Now because I do pay attention to all the things, like I look at the reviews and the ratings,
(00:48):
because you know, it touches my heart, and I haven't seen that change at all.
So people are listening, but not taking a moment to rate and review.
So if you wouldn't mind doing that, it goes a long way on Apple, follow also, and on YouTube,
you can share, like, comment, say, on Spotify.
I'm just, again, very much grateful for it.
And if you're into spreading the dance love, do all those things.
(01:11):
It just tells the platforms, "Dance people care."
Or maybe it's, "People care about dance."
Either way, it helps spread the word.
So huge, thank you, ahead of time.
Okay, so last week we began this two-part series with Why Dance is a sport.
Digging into how specifically competitive dance can fit that label, right?
(01:32):
Today, for part two, we're gonna flip it.
Why dance is not a sport.
Now I'm not gonna share my take just yet.
This right now is about laying it out straight, no bias, until the end.
All right, I'm not picking sides.
My thoughts drop at the end.
So stay with me.
Let's start with definitions.
(01:53):
TakeDictionary.com.
It says a sport is an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess
and often of a competitive nature.
That often jumps out, to me at least, dance doesn't need competition most of the time, right?
It's way more than a showdown.
(02:15):
Then there's Britannica calling a sport a contest or game
in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules
and compete against each other.
Competition is locked in there.
There's no wiggle room, but competitive dance?
Come on, it's just a small slice of the dance world.
(02:37):
It's not the root of dance.
Hopefully that's very, very clear.
Point is, these definitions don't tell the full dance story.
They're built for sports, not art.
Now what about definitions of dance?
Well, they don't even nod at sport, hint or suggest.
So let's go to Miriam Webster.
(02:57):
It says dance is to move one's body rhythmically, usually to music as an expression or as part
of a social event.
So there's no winners, no rules, just movement and music.
Britannica puts it as this.
The movement of the body in a rhythmic way, usually to music and within a given space,
(03:19):
for the purpose of expressing an idea or emotion, releasing energy or simply taking delight
in the movement itself.
Ah, I do love that definition.
I gotta tell you, it's just art through and through.
No athletics, no scoreboard.
Now admittedly definitions are a bit tricky, you know?
(03:39):
I grant that.
You can take up one to prop up any argument.
It's like cherry picking studies in science, confirmation bias if you will.
Anyway, the point is, some definitions clearly say dance is not a sport and that is our jumping
off point.
So why isn't dance a sport?
First, it's not rooted in competition.
(04:00):
Sports like soccer, basketball, baseball, they're all about going head to head, coming out
on top.
That's their soul, you know, pitting one against another to claim a win.
Dance?
It's an art form at its core.
Strip away the comps, the scores, the judges, dance doesn't even flinch, it's still there
being dance.
(04:22):
Think of a toddler, you know, hearing music for the first time, swaying to the beat, feeling
it, you know, it's innate, indescribable.
That's dance at its core.
Sports don't roll like that.
They're built for rivalry.
Take baseball.
Now this might be random, but you know, back in the 1860s, the pro-league.
(04:42):
We're starting to become a thing and they turned it into America's pastime, you know, America's
game because competition drove it.
The whole point was to outplay the other team, not just toss a ball for fun.
That's what sports do.
They thrive on that edge.
Dance is different.
It's been a lie forever.
(05:02):
Way before any trophies, UNESCO, the United Nations Culture Group, points to literal
cave drawings from 3,300 BC of people dancing together.
It's how we pass stories from generation to generation before there is even verbal language.
Comp's or not, it's always here.
(05:24):
Studios, stages, streets buzzing with life.
That's dance.
There's no need for a scoreboard.
Next, there's a huge crowd out there who'd say dance is about expression, okay?
Not cold hard wins.
Sports are all about counting stuff.
Goals, times, points.
(05:44):
Kick a ball into a net and soccer.
Boom, it's on the board, no debate.
Dance hits different.
It's about what you, the dancer, pour into it, what people feel, or what you make them feel
when they watch you.
Sure, comp's score things like precision music, choreography, technique, but honestly, it's
not really quantifiable.
(06:07):
Dance wants to know who's the champ, what's the score?
It's very bottom line.
Dance is, I think, supposed to ask something different.
What did you feel, you know, as the performer and what is the audience feeling watching the
dance?
It's really a whole other beast.
Now I hear this a lot from my audience.
(06:27):
Dance comp's are all over the freaking place.
You know, one judge might love that one jazz dancers routine, their energy, their style,
their technique, and another judge, same comp, same dancer might totally knock it for some
perceived technical glitch or something.
I mean, this is sort of pertinent.
I'm going to share a personal story here right now just for a moment when I was taking
(06:52):
dance really hardcore and taking 12 classes a week.
I remember this one, like, couple of days where really interesting this dichotomy, if you
will.
It was me in this one class and this teacher singles me out and has me demonstrate for the
other students my turns, pique turns, chanay turns, pirouettes talking about my technique and
(07:14):
how I keep my chest up and my arms in the right place and my posse, the whole thing.
And then I had a class a couple days later with another dance teacher for the first time this
one teacher who was really picking on me, like really, really hard to the point where it
was uncomfortable and really railing on my technique during my turns.
(07:37):
Definitely certain things I got to work on, but in this area, I feel strong.
And I remember watching the other dancers in this one particular class and they all turned
a very specific way to be frank, I didn't like and I had never seen before.
And I was like, oh, okay, this teacher, I'm kind of keeping it gender neutral on purpose,
(07:57):
wants something very different.
Okay, I'll give them that different thing then.
But since that class, I'm not going to lie, it's been on my radar to watch every dancer's
technique with turns specifically, whether it's the best dancers you've ever seen, you know,
in New York City classes or on Broadway shows or social media, whatever, the people who
(08:19):
I think have incredible technique and are amazing.
Nobody was turning like how this one teacher was telling me to turn.
They were turning how I turned.
Anyway, my point is that teacher had a whole different opinion on turning technique, I guess.
And if that teacher was a judge, he would then, you know, rate a dancer down or something.
(08:39):
And there you are.
Technique can be subjective.
But basketball, it's not subjective.
It's simple, a shot to points, no debate.
Genastics and figure skating have judges to, yes, but they've got a backbone.
Take the International Genastics Federation.
They set very clear difficulty scores like, you know, a, oh my god, reverse layout or a
(09:01):
reverse hector, a ginger.
This is my gymnastics terminology going back to the 80s.
I don't even know if they do these moves anymore.
My point is they have specific skills, tricks, flips that are worth certain points, certain
difficulty levels.
But dance comps, I mean, sure, they've got score sheets, yeah, technique, choreography, artistry,
(09:23):
whatever, but it's still ultimately for the judge always a gut call.
I've seen it myself.
Same dancer, same routine, crushing it at one event, barely placing it the next.
Judges feel dance their own way.
There's really no one objective winner, unlike sports or at least how most people think
of or define sports.
(09:44):
Now let's tackle what I hear are the two biggest arguments that are spoken of that are
supposed to prove just utterly prove dance is a sport competition and athleticism.
Okay, people say dance comps have judges, scores, events, oh, sounds like a sport.
(10:05):
But hold on a second, let's break this down literally.
Okay, because I'm very literal sometimes take American idol or the voice singers go head
to head on those shows judges rank them.
But nobody is calling that a sport.
The international show pan piano competition has top penists battling it out scored by pros.
(10:27):
Not a sport spelling bees debate teams art contests.
They've all got judging intensity winners.
No one tags them as sports competition is just a setup here a way to organize things.
It's not what defines them.
As comps have that too judges scores events, but it's still ultimately a structure.
(10:50):
Not the core of what dance is.
Now athleticism is the other one dancers are athletes hands down.
I said it in part one my post on IG about dance being the toughest job blew up because it's
real as but one example a 2018 study from the British Journal of Sports Medicine found dancers
(11:11):
match marathon runners for stamina.
But that doesn't make dance a sport.
Surgeons stand for hours cutting with insane focus.
A tool go on day.
I don't know if I'm saying that name correctly and I apologize if I'm not, but they wrote
in the New Yorker in 2011 that surgeons are athlete level.
(11:33):
Okay, surgeons are athlete level in endurance and skill.
Who's calling surgery a sport stunt doubles you know in movies, you know stunt men.
They jump off buildings and stuff a 2020 stunt men's association report says some outtrain
Olympians definitely athletes.
(11:54):
Wow, my God, but not a sport firefighters.
Hall gear climb ladders total beasts, not a sport athleticism alone doesn't cut it sports
need competition as their base.
It's their spine.
Here's the heart of it.
Dance doesn't need competition to thrive.
(12:15):
It's a movement for movements sake always has been ballet companies, fill theaters, hip-hop
crews battle on the streets.
No points just pure passion and even those battles by the way they're about style flare
who's got the soul, not a scorecard.
A 2022 report from the dance data project says only 15% of dance in the US is competitive.
(12:41):
The other 85% is out there in studios on stages or just for the love of it sports.
They're different.
They feed off that competitive fire.
Take basketball.
The NBA's fame and glitz.
You know it keeps it huge kids everywhere.
They watch the games dreaming of the pros, but a 2015 NCAA study says in areas where the
(13:05):
pro basketball scene feels distant like places without the live games or or big hype nearby
fewer high schoolers keep playing into college dropping by 40% over a few years.
The point is if a if an aspiring basketball player lives in an area where the pros are
just so far away and they feel like they've got no chance.
(13:28):
You know to get into the pros they're going to quit before they get into college even because
it's all about competing competing competing to get to finally get to the pros.
However, dance I would say is the is the opposite.
The way a dancer decides to take it seriously unlike most athletes in sports is just to train
to train and train and then eventually pursue a career well outside of the arena of anything
(13:53):
that has to do with competition.
A whole other kind of competition.
Caviar trust me I am well aware that there are some dance competitions especially within
the world of ballet that can certainly benefit a career.
That's usually when you're quite young.
(14:15):
I'm talking about you know a career into your 20s and beyond.
Everybody has a different trajectory.
I'm speaking in general terms.
I have another angle for you.
Dance is bigger than sport because it's not locked to a goal.
You know sports aim to win.
Hit the net cross the line score touchdown whatever that's what it is.
(14:35):
Dance it's so many things.
It's storytelling healing connecting it's way beyond the score.
Take other you know take sports that have artistry like gymnastics or figure skating where
people do tend to acknowledge.
Okay those are sports.
The thing is though kids in those areas start really really young.
(14:58):
They know immediately they're taught right away.
It's about nailing certain moves to compete.
It's built in studies like one from the Journal of Sport Science in 2020 show 90% of gymnasts
train for events that involve competition by age 10.
(15:19):
At dance studios most kids worldwide for a 2023 dance educators of America survey start
for fun expression not trophies.
Dance competes sometimes.
Yep sure auditions comps yep yep yep but that's again just a slice.
It's not the soul acting also by the way has competitions.
(15:42):
I was a teen actor as well as a teen dancer and I competed often as an actor.
He is calling acting a sport and there you are.
Me defending wide dance is not a sport.
Now if you're wondering wait a minute this podcast looks like it's almost over.
There's like no minutes left.
That's because I've already recorded my personal thoughts my views on on the matter where
(16:07):
I lean on this subject and it went a little longer than I anticipated and part two in general
went longer than I anticipated.
And so I decided to make my thoughts on this topic its own stand alone podcast.
I hope you're okay with that.
I hope you're not like oh my god I really needed to know now.
(16:28):
So I thank you for being here.
Take a moment to do the things.
Rate review follow subscribe I would love your thoughts.
Oh my god do you agree do you disagree so far with what I've said in part one and part
two tell me in the comments on Spotify or YouTube maybe in your review on Apple or
shoot me a DM at back to great on on Instagram.
I'm actually side note posting a little more these days on TikTok so I'm back to great
(16:54):
there too if you want to follow.
I appreciate that I really do and I'll see you next time.
[Music]
(chill music)
Welcome to "Hey, Dancer."
(00:04):
I'm your host, Miller Daurey, and I'm just really glad to have you here.
I appreciate you clicking play.
I appreciate your support.
Speaking of that, may I say, I'm always a little self-conscious like Will it come off,
self-boasting, or bragadocious, but I recently was informed that this podcast at this time
(00:24):
is a top-ranked podcast.
One apple under the category of "performing arts."
It's in the top 40.
Not only that, but for two weeks running, the number one dance podcast.
What?
That's very exciting, and I'm just sincerely appreciative.
Now because I do pay attention to all the things, like I look at the reviews and the ratings,
(00:48):
because you know, it touches my heart, and I haven't seen that change at all.
So people are listening, but not taking a moment to rate and review.
So if you wouldn't mind doing that, it goes a long way on Apple, follow also, and on YouTube,
you can share, like, comment, say, on Spotify.
I'm just, again, very much grateful for it.
And if you're into spreading the dance love, do all those things.
(01:11):
It just tells the platforms, "Dance people care."
Or maybe it's, "People care about dance."
Either way, it helps spread the word.
So huge, thank you, ahead of time.
Okay, so last week we began this two-part series with Why Dance is a sport.
Digging into how specifically competitive dance can fit that label, right?
(01:32):
Today, for part two, we're gonna flip it.
Why dance is not a sport.
Now I'm not gonna share my take just yet.
This right now is about laying it out straight, no bias, until the end.
All right, I'm not picking sides.
My thoughts drop at the end.
So stay with me.
Let's start with definitions.
(01:53):
TakeDictionary.com.
It says a sport is an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess
and often of a competitive nature.
That often jumps out, to me at least, dance doesn't need competition most of the time, right?
It's way more than a showdown.
(02:15):
Then there's Britannica calling a sport a contest or game
in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules
and compete against each other.
Competition is locked in there.
There's no wiggle room, but competitive dance?
Come on, it's just a small slice of the dance world.
(02:37):
It's not the root of dance.
Hopefully that's very, very clear.
Point is, these definitions don't tell the full dance story.
They're built for sports, not art.
Now what about definitions of dance?
Well, they don't even nod at sport, hint or suggest.
So let's go to Miriam Webster.
(02:57):
It says dance is to move one's body rhythmically, usually to music as an expression or as part
of a social event.
So there's no winners, no rules, just movement and music.
Britannica puts it as this.
The movement of the body in a rhythmic way, usually to music and within a given space,
(03:19):
for the purpose of expressing an idea or emotion, releasing energy or simply taking delight
in the movement itself.
Ah, I do love that definition.
I gotta tell you, it's just art through and through.
No athletics, no scoreboard.
Now admittedly definitions are a bit tricky, you know?
(03:39):
I grant that.
You can take up one to prop up any argument.
It's like cherry picking studies in science, confirmation bias if you will.
Anyway, the point is, some definitions clearly say dance is not a sport and that is our jumping
off point.
So why isn't dance a sport?
First, it's not rooted in competition.
(04:00):
Sports like soccer, basketball, baseball, they're all about going head to head, coming out
on top.
That's their soul, you know, pitting one against another to claim a win.
Dance?
It's an art form at its core.
Strip away the comps, the scores, the judges, dance doesn't even flinch, it's still there
being dance.
(04:22):
Think of a toddler, you know, hearing music for the first time, swaying to the beat, feeling
it, you know, it's innate, indescribable.
That's dance at its core.
Sports don't roll like that.
They're built for rivalry.
Take baseball.
Now this might be random, but you know, back in the 1860s, the pro-league.
(04:42):
We're starting to become a thing and they turned it into America's pastime, you know, America's
game because competition drove it.
The whole point was to outplay the other team, not just toss a ball for fun.
That's what sports do.
They thrive on that edge.
Dance is different.
It's been a lie forever.
(05:02):
Way before any trophies, UNESCO, the United Nations Culture Group, points to literal
cave drawings from 3,300 BC of people dancing together.
It's how we pass stories from generation to generation before there is even verbal language.
Comp's or not, it's always here.
(05:24):
Studios, stages, streets buzzing with life.
That's dance.
There's no need for a scoreboard.
Next, there's a huge crowd out there who'd say dance is about expression, okay?
Not cold hard wins.
Sports are all about counting stuff.
Goals, times, points.
(05:44):
Kick a ball into a net and soccer.
Boom, it's on the board, no debate.
Dance hits different.
It's about what you, the dancer, pour into it, what people feel, or what you make them feel
when they watch you.
Sure, comp's score things like precision music, choreography, technique, but honestly, it's
not really quantifiable.
(06:07):
Dance wants to know who's the champ, what's the score?
It's very bottom line.
Dance is, I think, supposed to ask something different.
What did you feel, you know, as the performer and what is the audience feeling watching the
dance?
It's really a whole other beast.
Now I hear this a lot from my audience.
(06:27):
Dance comp's are all over the freaking place.
You know, one judge might love that one jazz dancers routine, their energy, their style,
their technique, and another judge, same comp, same dancer might totally knock it for some
perceived technical glitch or something.
I mean, this is sort of pertinent.
I'm going to share a personal story here right now just for a moment when I was taking
(06:52):
dance really hardcore and taking 12 classes a week.
I remember this one, like, couple of days where really interesting this dichotomy, if you
will.
It was me in this one class and this teacher singles me out and has me demonstrate for the
other students my turns, pique turns, chanay turns, pirouettes talking about my technique and
(07:14):
how I keep my chest up and my arms in the right place and my posse, the whole thing.
And then I had a class a couple days later with another dance teacher for the first time this
one teacher who was really picking on me, like really, really hard to the point where it
was uncomfortable and really railing on my technique during my turns.
(07:37):
Definitely certain things I got to work on, but in this area, I feel strong.
And I remember watching the other dancers in this one particular class and they all turned
a very specific way to be frank, I didn't like and I had never seen before.
And I was like, oh, okay, this teacher, I'm kind of keeping it gender neutral on purpose,
(07:57):
wants something very different.
Okay, I'll give them that different thing then.
But since that class, I'm not going to lie, it's been on my radar to watch every dancer's
technique with turns specifically, whether it's the best dancers you've ever seen, you know,
in New York City classes or on Broadway shows or social media, whatever, the people who
(08:19):
I think have incredible technique and are amazing.
Nobody was turning like how this one teacher was telling me to turn.
They were turning how I turned.
Anyway, my point is that teacher had a whole different opinion on turning technique, I guess.
And if that teacher was a judge, he would then, you know, rate a dancer down or something.
(08:39):
And there you are.
Technique can be subjective.
But basketball, it's not subjective.
It's simple, a shot to points, no debate.
Genastics and figure skating have judges to, yes, but they've got a backbone.
Take the International Genastics Federation.
They set very clear difficulty scores like, you know, a, oh my god, reverse layout or a
(09:01):
reverse hector, a ginger.
This is my gymnastics terminology going back to the 80s.
I don't even know if they do these moves anymore.
My point is they have specific skills, tricks, flips that are worth certain points, certain
difficulty levels.
But dance comps, I mean, sure, they've got score sheets, yeah, technique, choreography, artistry,
(09:23):
whatever, but it's still ultimately for the judge always a gut call.
I've seen it myself.
Same dancer, same routine, crushing it at one event, barely placing it the next.
Judges feel dance their own way.
There's really no one objective winner, unlike sports or at least how most people think
of or define sports.
(09:44):
Now let's tackle what I hear are the two biggest arguments that are spoken of that are
supposed to prove just utterly prove dance is a sport competition and athleticism.
Okay, people say dance comps have judges, scores, events, oh, sounds like a sport.
(10:05):
But hold on a second, let's break this down literally.
Okay, because I'm very literal sometimes take American idol or the voice singers go head
to head on those shows judges rank them.
But nobody is calling that a sport.
The international show pan piano competition has top penists battling it out scored by pros.
(10:27):
Not a sport spelling bees debate teams art contests.
They've all got judging intensity winners.
No one tags them as sports competition is just a setup here a way to organize things.
It's not what defines them.
As comps have that too judges scores events, but it's still ultimately a structure.
(10:50):
Not the core of what dance is.
Now athleticism is the other one dancers are athletes hands down.
I said it in part one my post on IG about dance being the toughest job blew up because it's
real as but one example a 2018 study from the British Journal of Sports Medicine found dancers
(11:11):
match marathon runners for stamina.
But that doesn't make dance a sport.
Surgeons stand for hours cutting with insane focus.
A tool go on day.
I don't know if I'm saying that name correctly and I apologize if I'm not, but they wrote
in the New Yorker in 2011 that surgeons are athlete level.
(11:33):
Okay, surgeons are athlete level in endurance and skill.
Who's calling surgery a sport stunt doubles you know in movies, you know stunt men.
They jump off buildings and stuff a 2020 stunt men's association report says some outtrain
Olympians definitely athletes.
(11:54):
Wow, my God, but not a sport firefighters.
Hall gear climb ladders total beasts, not a sport athleticism alone doesn't cut it sports
need competition as their base.
It's their spine.
Here's the heart of it.
Dance doesn't need competition to thrive.
(12:15):
It's a movement for movements sake always has been ballet companies, fill theaters, hip-hop
crews battle on the streets.
No points just pure passion and even those battles by the way they're about style flare
who's got the soul, not a scorecard.
A 2022 report from the dance data project says only 15% of dance in the US is competitive.
(12:41):
The other 85% is out there in studios on stages or just for the love of it sports.
They're different.
They feed off that competitive fire.
Take basketball.
The NBA's fame and glitz.
You know it keeps it huge kids everywhere.
They watch the games dreaming of the pros, but a 2015 NCAA study says in areas where the
(13:05):
pro basketball scene feels distant like places without the live games or or big hype nearby
fewer high schoolers keep playing into college dropping by 40% over a few years.
The point is if a if an aspiring basketball player lives in an area where the pros are
just so far away and they feel like they've got no chance.
(13:28):
You know to get into the pros they're going to quit before they get into college even because
it's all about competing competing competing to get to finally get to the pros.
However, dance I would say is the is the opposite.
The way a dancer decides to take it seriously unlike most athletes in sports is just to train
to train and train and then eventually pursue a career well outside of the arena of anything
(13:53):
that has to do with competition.
A whole other kind of competition.
Caviar trust me I am well aware that there are some dance competitions especially within
the world of ballet that can certainly benefit a career.
That's usually when you're quite young.
(14:15):
I'm talking about you know a career into your 20s and beyond.
Everybody has a different trajectory.
I'm speaking in general terms.
I have another angle for you.
Dance is bigger than sport because it's not locked to a goal.
You know sports aim to win.
Hit the net cross the line score touchdown whatever that's what it is.
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Dance it's so many things.
It's storytelling healing connecting it's way beyond the score.
Take other you know take sports that have artistry like gymnastics or figure skating where
people do tend to acknowledge.
Okay those are sports.
The thing is though kids in those areas start really really young.
(14:58):
They know immediately they're taught right away.
It's about nailing certain moves to compete.
It's built in studies like one from the Journal of Sport Science in 2020 show 90% of gymnasts
train for events that involve competition by age 10.
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At dance studios most kids worldwide for a 2023 dance educators of America survey start
for fun expression not trophies.
Dance competes sometimes.
Yep sure auditions comps yep yep yep but that's again just a slice.
It's not the soul acting also by the way has competitions.
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I was a teen actor as well as a teen dancer and I competed often as an actor.
He is calling acting a sport and there you are.
Me defending wide dance is not a sport.
Now if you're wondering wait a minute this podcast looks like it's almost over.
There's like no minutes left.
That's because I've already recorded my personal thoughts my views on on the matter where
(16:07):
I lean on this subject and it went a little longer than I anticipated and part two in general
went longer than I anticipated.
And so I decided to make my thoughts on this topic its own stand alone podcast.
I hope you're okay with that.
I hope you're not like oh my god I really needed to know now.
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So I thank you for being here.
Take a moment to do the things.
Rate review follow subscribe I would love your thoughts.
Oh my god do you agree do you disagree so far with what I've said in part one and part
two tell me in the comments on Spotify or YouTube maybe in your review on Apple or
shoot me a DM at back to great on on Instagram.
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I appreciate that I really do and I'll see you next time.
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