Are Peptides the Missing Link in Your Health? - Joy Houston - Hustle & Flowchart: Mastering Business & Enjoying the Journey

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Hey, we're living in a world whereAI is helping us optimize our work.

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Save time, maybe make somemore money and all this stuff.
But who's here talking aboutoptimizing our bodies using a, a
thing that's not so publicly known,but you might have heard about it.
So this thing we'retalking about are peptides.
So my friend, really goodfriend, Joy Houston, I actually.
Ran into her at a conference right afterI dislocated my pinky doing jiujitsu.

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I was training for a tournamentlike literally days before
dislocated this thing.
It was nasty.
I won't show the x-rayunless you wanna hit me up.
I'll glad to share it with you.
But I've been using peptides ever sinceseeing her because she was like, you.
BPC 1 57 like stat.
So she, she gave me the info,hooked it up, and we, uh, went on
my way and I've been using it since.

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So, joy is gonna break down whatpeptides are in her playbook.
She's literally giving you a, a freeguide, which I'm gonna give to you.
There's no opt-in, no nothing.
She made it just for this episode.
And for you, it's gonna breakdown what these things are like,
what are the other peptides?
What are real world stacks or likeformulas that people are using.
What are the the costs associated?

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What are common mistakes and why has thisthing been kind of hush hush and been in
this biohacking community and subculture,and why hasn't it been brought to light?
That's what we're doing hereon this episode with Joy.
It's awesome.
We could have gone for a lot longer.
Before you get in, I highly urge youto get the resource that her and her

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awesome husband Travis put together.
The website is get Mypeptides.com, get my peptides.com.
There's no opt-in.
It literally is just gonna redirectto a Google Doc that has all the
resources we're talking about.
So as you're listening orwatching along, just make sure
you go to get my peptides.com.
First, and you'll be able tofollow along a lot better and

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know what Joy's talking about.
'cause she's gonna giveyou a lot of information.
It's awesome.
That's gonna help you out.
So enjoy the episode.
Please let her or me know how it goes.
And, um, if you have any questions,we're here and available.
All right, see you later.
And by the way, we are not doctors.
This is not medical advice.
Do your own research.
We say it about like amillion times in the episode.

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Remember that this is just first worldexperience that we wanna put out there,
so hopefully it helps you or someone else.
All right, peace.
Enjoy.
Joy, we are doing this.
How are you doing today, my friend?
I'm doing awesome.
I'm so happy to be here with you.
Send my love to Heather.

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Oh yeah, for sure.
Back to, uh, Travis as well.
Uh, we've been talking about this fora long time, having you on the show
and, um, I think we're gonna, wellwe're gonna do a two-parter and so this
is the first of another one to come.
And I'm happy that we're doing thisone first 'cause it's like been
super timely with what we've beentalking about and what you're doing
and me with an injury, which we'lltalk about what that all means.

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But, um.
Where do we, yeah, we're, we're gonnatalk about stuff that's like, what?
It's the conversations that are notwhat, not really happening, but they,
maybe they're behind the scenes, but wejust wanna bring 'em to the forefront.
Right.
And
I think what happened betweenus was pretty, you know, I
mean that was synergistic.
Um, we, uh, we, so youguys are all in the loop?
We were both at Perry Belcher'sevent recently and, um, love Joe.

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He's been a family friend ofmy husband and i's for a while.
He and his wife Heather are amazing.
You guys already know that.
But he rolled up witha fat injury Juujitsu,
That's right.
Yes.
It was a dislocated, uh, pinky, and it was
Yeah.
Nasty,
nasty and um, and I looked, took what?
Look at that.
And I was like, are you at least doingsome BPC 1 57 injections in that bro?

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Because like you just heard itand like, now's the time and he
And I was like, what is that?
Yeah.
Tell me more.
So,
And I kind of think that'sindicative of what's happening.
Like a lot of people who are in themarketing space, in the entrepreneurial
space, the AI space, like a lotof us are also just sort of these
driven type of personalities driven.

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That's not a plug for Perry'sMastermind, by the way, but,
but good people over there.
Good people, right?
Emma Perry, we love you.
Um, so, uh, I think a lot ofthis really driven community.
We driven to serve ouraudiences and to make money.
In being that driven, one of the thingswe all have in common is that most
of us are looking to really stay veryprogressive, like about our health.

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Really, really stay at thebleeding edge of what's possible.
So I don't know about you, but I knowin the masterminds that I'm in, in the
private groups that I am in, um, inthe entrepreneurial space, a lot of us
have, the majority of the conversationin our masterminds is business.
Of course, let's make money.
Let's serve our audiences.
But there's always been this sort ofundercurrent of what can we do to keep

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our bodies strong, our relationshipsstrong, you know, all, all these things
that like make us stay on our A game.
And a lot of that conversation over thepast couple of years, honestly, uh, maybe
five years in our community was peptides.
I feel like first it was like stem cells.
Everybody's like, let's do stem cells.
You know what I mean?
And then I think the conversationhas shifted a lot towards peptides.

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And it's a gray area, right?
Because you know, big pharma, FDA, likethey don't really know what to do with it.
Because if you don't know what peptidesare, like they're amino acid chains and
our body make these amino acid chains.
So it kind of falls intothat weird category of like.
Well, we can't slap a trademark on it.
So big pharma can make big moneyand it's a little difficult to

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regulate because, you know, wemake these things for god's sake.
Insulin is a peptide and weuse that like crazy, right?
So, so it's just kind of hoveredin this really gray area.
Um, and I find that there's been twolanes, like two very distinct lanes.
There's like the education lane.
Right.
There's like, we will talk to youabout what we're doing with peptides

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and how we're using peptides.
There are, um, several, um, educationcourses, like online education courses.
I've taken some, um, and I've eventaken one that is meant to certify
practitioners who wanna do it.
Not because I am a practitioner,I'm the CEO of Heal at scale.
And so my entire audience ishealth entrepreneurs, right?

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So these are think clinicians that don'twanna work at Kaiser Hospital or clinic.
These are truly health entrepreneurs.
They wanna serve people at scale withthings like group programs, private label
supplements, writing their own books.
They wanna take their knowledge and scale.
And so obviously those kind ofhealth entrepreneurs are not your.
Basic doctor, right?
They're already entrepreneurial.
They're already wanting to be onthe bleeding edge, first of holistic

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medicine and then functional medicine.
And then Tony Robbins book broughtaround the term precision medicine,
whatever you call it, right?
But those type of people like to stayat this super, super bleeding edge.
And because of that, I've been givenaccess to, you know, courses and
certifications on that and just.
As a personal passion.
I geek out on it and I love to know it,but there's that lane, there's like, you

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can learn about it and then there's acompletely separate lane, maybe even two
lanes I think we should talk about, andthat's like, how do I get my hands on?
The peptides in order to use them.
And even that lane kind of has two, ithas like, you can get the peptides in
one lane, but you can't get the, uh,syringes and the bacteria static water

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that you hydrate the peptides with.
So if you guys don't know,peptides come as a powder.
They come in little vials and um, and thenyou reconstitute them by adding bacterial
static water if you're gonna inject it.
And bacterial static saline, if you'regonna like use it as a nasal spray.
But oddly enough, because it'sso gray, you can either sell the
powdered peptides or you can sell thebacterial static and the injectables,

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but you cannot cross the streams.
It's like in Ghostbusters, right?
Ah, don't cross the stream.
it's true.
You can't do it.
All right,
Yes.
I, I wanna, I wanna break it downlike exactly like, so, because
what I've found when I bring upthat I've been using peptides to.
Help my injury.
So I've literally, and I'll set the sceneis, yeah, so it was, I don't know, four

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weeks or maybe five weeks at this point.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Basically, juujitsu injury, thisthing popped out of, its so, it was
Yeah, you guys, they look gross.
It
Yeah.
I don't, I don't know if I'll
afraid for him.
Yeah, I'm not gonna showthe x-ray on screen.
I kind of want to, but I'll probablyfreak out half the audience or more.
So, um, but the point is it's fine.
Oh, it's not fine.

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It's still a little crooked,but it's feeling better.
And, um, I've been using, yeah, sofound Joy, uh, knew you'd be there,
but then told you what happened, andthen literally you had BPC 1 5 7, and.
That's one of the peptides along withanother one I'm using, but I've been
injecting it basically, it's prettyclose as possible to the site there.

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And we are not doctors, like we said,none of this is doctor advice, not
medical advice, do run research.
Um, but it's, I've seen a noticeabledifference and obviously I don't
have anything to compare it to.
I've never done this kind of injurybefore, but it's wowed me like there's
still a little achiness in there, but, um.
It's, that's, I mean, to be likethree weeks I think is what it took.

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I was like, holy crap, Ican like move fairly well.
Um, and, but I've, I've heard
you saw a difference.
You felt a difference yourself?
Well, that's kind of howwe got into this world.
Like because of serving healthentrepreneur audience, like, you
know, they were kind of in the ether.
They were kind of outthere like stem cells.
But we decided, do you guys, doyou remember back when Travis and I

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went on this, this bender of like,well, can we be digital nomad?
You know, like, and.
Me and, and Ma and Maverick reallywanted to go to Thailand, so we're like,
screw it, we're just gonna, you know, wecan work anywhere 'cause we're online.
Let's go to Thailand forthree months, you know?
So we rented this mansion in Thailand.
It was gorgeous.
We had a great time.
People cycled through visitingus, but like two weeks before

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we were set to head home.
And if you're, I won't, I won't throwTravis under the bus for how old he is,
but if you're in your late forties, thenyou may have heard many of your friends
who have some sort of injury where likethey're playing pickleball or they're
just running, or they're doing somethingthey normally do, and all of a sudden they
hear an extreme pop in their ankle andit feels like they got, you know, bit or

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stung or you know, hacked with a needle.
He had torn his Achilles.
He ha he had torn his Achillesand were in Thailand on Koi,
so not even on the mainland.
So we're like on this littleisland, like the middle of nowhere.
It was this whole huge thing, right?
So he had to go to the ER andthen they had to ambulance him
on a ferry back to the mainlandwhere there was an MRI machine.

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It was this whole messed up thing.
Okay.
Anyways, like we get him in acast, we come home, we confirm
here with surgeons in the states.
Yeah, it, that's exactly what happened.
They nailed it.
Exactly right.
The research is exactly right.
What they gave us, and if youdon't know, basically if you
tear your Achilles, they're like,it's 50 50 if you do the surgery.
If you don't do the surgery,the healing time is the same.

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The recovery of injury, you know, orthe recurrence is rate is the same.
So they basically said, look, dude,unless you had some, you know, college
football scholarship, there's really noreason for us to do this surgery on you.
You have to wear a boot.
And so he was wearing a boot.
And you know Travis, he's not like lazy.
He's very competitive.
He's very move, move, move.

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It fricking pissed him off tobe in this boot for a long time
and he hit like a plateau whereit wasn't getting any better.
We're three, we're six months in the boot.
It's just not moving the needle.
Exactly.
And so we leaned into our community andthey were like, yep, peptides, let's go.
Um, it gave us a b, p, Cregimen to to, to get on.
You know, at first, back then itfelt like kind of black market.

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'cause you would like pay on one app andorder on another app, and then it comes
in a white envelope with no, it looks likeyou're ordering drugs or something else.
Really scary, right?
Really scary.
Um, now it's much easier becauseit's, it is much more mainstream.
Okay.
You can pay with your creditcard and stuff like that.
You don't have to Venmo.
So.
Um, so every night while we were tryingto heal before he had tried peptides,

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if we were watching TV or reading, Iwould take one of those jade like wasaw
tools that women use on their faceand try to get the scar tissue down.
'cause
Like basically scrape it, right?
Yeah, like try to get it down and so Iknew what we were dealing with because
I was the one helping him out with it.
It felt like that old school, biglead, chew bubblegum, used to chew
back like in the eighties or ninetieswhere your whole cheek was like that.

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Yeah.
It felt like a dried upwad of that in his thing.
Not like to be gross or anything.
And it wasn't moving much at all withthe Guha tool before we did the BPC 1 57.
And then afterwards, literallywithin a few weeks, I was like,
I can't even find it anymore.
Like it was smaller and smaller andsmaller until one night I was like,

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babe, I can't even find the stupidthing I'm supposed to be like trying
to help you massage out of your ankle.
And that's when the light cameon for us that we're like, oh.
This fricking works.
Yeah.
This really
works.
what did you like?
Because, so that was aninjection, obviously a BPC 1 57.
And I wanna break down like, whythat, because that comes up probably

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more often than, but uh, were youinjecting like right next to it?
Into it like,
Yeah.
So that's a good question.
So for most peptides, you can just,um, inject into, add a post fat, right?
So it's a subq injection.
It's not.
Im So for all of your, if yourdudes are on the audience, any
of you guys that are using.
Um, like testosteroneinjections, for example.
I know that's relatively common.

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Um, or at least in our entrepreneurialaudience that's staying in the
forefront.
It's
are probably like, whatcha talking about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like our, maybe the circlethat we run in Joe is a little more health
I think I, I
everyone is picking up on this.
Yeah, exactly.
So if you're doing a testosteroneinjection, for example, that's Im
intramuscular and it's a bigger, fatterneedle and it hurts more, quite honestly.

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Um, but this is a tiny little, like,it's an insulin syringe is what it is.
So the needle is super, super tiny, right?
It's super, super
tiny and you're in.
Yeah, exactly.
And you're injecting a tiny amount.
I mean, for God's sake, Joe,I'm like, I'm not a doctor.
I'm not nurse Joy fromPokemon or whatever.
But we did it at Perry's event tohelp your hand like immediately
remember?

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say.
Yeah, no, it was, it was pretty funny.
So it was like right after ourfriend, Deb Cole spoke on stage.
And like, yeah, you had some BPC1 5 7 you brought for me that day.
'cause you're like, Joe's fucked up.
It's hard for my language, but I was,I was like in a splint and you're
like, I'm gonna bring the goods likethe, the day before you said this.

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And then, um, yeah, I just like, Ihad a little crowd of people around
to watch it 'cause they were supercurious and you gave the injection
right there in front of, you know,on the, one of the tables after
Yeah.
I'm
And I'm, I've been
You guys, I'm, I'm not a nurse, but, buthonestly, he was like trying to do the ham
that he would normally write with, so hewas like, yeah, this is not gonna work.
I'm not
doing it myself.

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but but to your point though,it's been easy for me to inject
it myself and No problem.
I mean, I just, I, I think thehardest part is figuring out how
to mix all this stuff together.
Reconstitute, which
Yeah,
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay, so let me answer yourquestion really quickly.
So with BPC 1 57, the closer youcan get to the injury site, the
better effectiveness, at leastwe've had in our experience.

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Um, but if you were using it moregenerally or depending on what
your stack is, most people are justinjecting in their adipose fat,
which is like any fat that you have.
So typically like aroundyour belly or around your.
Thighs, even like the backof the arm or something.
You need a little, you know, alittle junk in the trunk, kind of.
You need a little, yeah, youneed a little fatty area.
Yeah, exactly.

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And then it's just subq, you're, you'reintentionally not, you're not going for
vein or anything challenging like that.
You're just putting it in.
Much like people who do insulin every day.
It's kind of like that.
Um, so yes, B PC 1 57close to the injury site.
Our other peptide stack.
Nope.
We just rotate through differentfatty areas in the body.
So just to circle backand make sure we're clear,
Yeah, no, thank you.

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Yeah.
'cause I wanna, I wanna walkit even up a level again to say
like, what are, what are peptides?
Because like they come in different forms.
Like you could buy peptides technicallyat Costco that have like collagen and
you know, you mix in your smoothie or youknow, there's people that say like, oh
yeah, I put peptides on my face at night.
You know, like one of myneighbors said that, and I'm like.

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These are different, but also, I don'tknow, like So how would you describe it?
Because I'll just say when I bring thisup to people, like they're just like,
even if they're not in the entrepreneurcrowd, like some of my neighbors,
and they're just like, I need to sitdown and just learn about peptides
and like, what the hell you're doing.
So
Okay.
Well this would be a amazingplace to say, first of all,
Joe and I are not your doctors.

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We're not medical professionals.
Like I swim in the pool ofmedical professionals because
I'm the CEO of Heal at scale.
Right.
Um, because I
just finished a book.
that helps.
Yeah.
I just finished a book that helps healthentrepreneurs get cash pay clients,
people are willing to pay outta pocket.
So like, this is my world, right?
So I swim in that world.
I'm not a doctor.

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Um, Joe asked me to do that.
I was like, okay, but I'mlegally off the hook, right?
So like I had to go downmassive rabbit holes.
I'm talking about, well, some ofy'all were watching Netflix sequences.
Like I was just taking peptidescourse because I'm a dork.
And I'm like, just curious about itbecause I had never, you know, we
had tried everything with healingTravis's ankle and it wasn't working.

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And then when I saw whatwas happening with him.
I had, I think that you and Heatherknew this, but like for, I had a
terrible case of sibo and because I wason like the superior diet, I thought,
oh, I must have gotten SIBO becauseI ate too much out at a restaurant.
I'm going to eat even cleaner.
And I didn't realize thatthe type of SIBO I had.
Was actually from fresh, raw vegetables,like it loved vegetable fiber.

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So I was inadvertently making mycondition worse instead of better before
I figured out what I was doing right.
So I decided I would try it to sort ofget over all the damage that I had done
to my intestinal tract, my digestivesystem, and I got on my own stack.
I got some help with that, and I got on myown stack and sure enough, those problems
that had been lingering and I. Couldn'tquite put in the rear view mirror.

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Like handled, just handled.
Whereas I had tried everything likediets and my IgG powders and different
probiotics, like all the things, right?
All the things I could put in mymouth and try to solve the problem and
had already tried and because it wasdealing with a digestive system, but.
Through the bloodstream, notthrough the digestive track itself.
That's my hypothesis of wow, why Iwas probably able to put it in the

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rear view mirror like I was actuallyproviding something that wasn't going
through the digestive track, thatwas already not operating the ideal,
optimal way that it should, you know?
So I went ahead and Joe, I, I, I sharedwith you as we were coming on that Travis,
uh, if you guys don't know Travis Houston,he's freaking marketing genius, AI guru.
He is like, so, so smart.

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I'm lucky enough to be marriedto this gorgeous man, and he
knew I was coming here today.
So, um, he made, uh, a.Pretty URL for you guys.
If you go to get my peptides.com, youcould get all of the research that
Travis and I compiled, so it lists allthe courses that I take and a link in
case you wanna take it, it lists, um,all the books that I really loved.

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Like there's a lot of 'em out there,but some of 'em are absolute crap and
some of 'em are so good that you feellike, oh, you're going through your
little med school kind of course.
So we just compiled all of theinformation that we use, um, to
gain our own information, to come upwith our own pep stack, to then go
to our provider and say, Hey, look,this is what we're looking at doing.

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What's the ups?
What's the downs?
And quite frankly, um, even ourpractitioners were like, okay, I know
about this, but I don't know about that.
So track yourself.
So you'll also see in that documentthat I created, like a tracker so I
could track when I reconstitute them.
How much I'm using andwhat my symptoms were.
And I don't want you or your audiencehave to recreate all of that.

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So we put it into one documentfor your audience so they can go
get all of that@getmypeptides.com.
Get my peptides.com.
We'll put the link in the show notesand, and Jacob put it on the screen too.
Um, this is like, I'm on here.
I'm just looking at the documentand you just gotta get it.
Like, I don't know if you'regonna have an opt-in or not.
Right now.
You, you don't.

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If you do,
No, it's just for you guys.
It's
It.
Yeah.
So literally go there becauseI'm just looking, some of these
I didn't know about, so I'm goingto be definitely diving into a
couple books and the resources.
You have a GPT that I think Travis made.
Yep.
He took all of the favorites, likefrom the books and from the courses
that I took, and he just put it allinto a GPT so you can interact with it.

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So if you're like, okay, well mylibido's falling off like, and I'm
this year this old and this is whatI've tried and this is what worked.
You can just kind of havea conversation with it and.
And guys, it's a GPT.
So obviously it'll keep warning you.
This is not medical information.
You have to do your research, youhave to talk with your doctor.
You need to see what your, you know, whereyou're at with your health and where,

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where, if it's a good idea for you or not.
We're, we're notadvocating everyone do it.
We're just admitting that there'sa peptide conversation happening,
sort of like underground.
And I think it's time that we actuallybring it above ground and start
sharing information, sharing resources.
Talking about who's paying and evenoverpaying for this, because I'm seeing

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some offers where it's like a hundredgrand to get a simple blood test and then
somebody to help you with your pep stick.
And I'm like, are youfucking kidding me right now?
Like, are you kidding me?
Um, and so that the whole price thing ispart of the reason I put that document
together because I had friends who werebuying it at other sources and we like.
Won't name names.
Um, but the stack that I am onnow, between me and Travis's Stack,

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we, we could easily throw down1200, $1,500 a month on peptides.
And that was crazy.
And so I started digging into,okay, how many labs in the
world make these darn things?
How many, right?
Because as marketers like you,and I know, you know, you can
market something, Tiffany.
but yeah.
Yeah, you can market somethingTiffany's style and, and price it

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really high in that tennis bracelet.
That's a hundred grand.
Right?
Or you can buy a tennisbracelet at Target.
You're like, so, so because of ourmarketing experience, I was like, how
much of this is marketing and how much ofthis is like medical grade differences?
So in going into that rabbit holewas part of what had me put in that.
Put that document together for my friends.

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I even gave you the early version of
that, right?
Because, yeah.
'cause I was like, wait, peopleare like grossly overpaying
for things and I was a snob.
You know me, I'm like such a snob,food snob, quality snob that.
And so I was like, I wannasee the certificates of
authentic, of authenticity.
And like some that I ordered, I wouldhave the vial and the vial lot number, and

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the cert that they sent me didn't match.
And I was like, okay, that's not a fit.
'cause I don't want anyonewho will send me a cert.
That's not valid.
And so it took a bit to find theright people where I felt like,
okay, they're actually sending me.
The certifications of authenticity,the pur purity, and the lot
numbers match on the vial.
Right?
So you're like, okay, I found ittook a while to find someone that

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I trust that was priced reasonably.
Um, and that's who you'll see.
I link to my source in in that document.
Yeah, yeah.
Your, your document again, you have like,it's way more than you even gave me.
And then when you gave me all those,that information, it's before everything.
It was just like through text messages,I was just like, holy moly, there's a
whole world I did not understand or know.

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There's books, there's resources, there'sthis really cool like encyclopedia thing
that maps out all of the peptides and.
Exactly what they'reused for, how to use it.
When do you like, so this information,we have a, you now everyone listening
and watching has access to, um,I'm just gonna call it out again.
Get my peptides.com again.
Yeah.

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And it, and some of the sites,it's like you said, some of the
sites are garbage and some of thesites are amazing and so helpful.
And for me, the distinctionbetween garbage and helpful was.
Did it link to actual research?
You know, like I, I want, Iwanna see actual research.
I don't wanna just be like, oh,you believe that's what happened?
Right?
So like, you'll see a link to that,um, pet pia.org, which I really love

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that one because when it comes time toreconstitute things, um, you, you need.
You're not gonna remember it all.
So like you kind of need help onceyou get your stack into the tracker.
So if you use the tracker, whenyou go to that document, you guys,
you'll see if you'll scroll down.
Like one of the assetsthat I use is the tracker.
Once you make your tracker and you havenoted, oh, this is how much bacterial

(24:43):
static water I add, this is when Ireconstitute it, well then yeah, it's
gonna become easier for you becauseyou already know what you're doing.
But when you're first figuring itout, I think it's helpful to have
all of those assets in one place.
for sure.
Yes, the tracking is smart because, yeah,I, I've reconstitute, like I said, that
was the, probably the most confusing part.
But like, once you figure it outand it's easy, you just gotta

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Yeah.
what the heck you're doing.
Uh.
Yeah, exactly.
Question.
So you, you've mentioned stackmany times your peptide stack.
So what is that and how doessomeone figure out their stack?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, your stack is, firstof all, your stack just means
the peptides that you're on.
That's all it means, right?
So it's like, it's like an outfit, right?

(25:25):
there you go.
Um, and it, an outfit canbe whatever you want, right?
You wanna wear a dress, you wanna weara top, and jeans and heels and a jacket.
Like you can mix and matchthis, the, your stack based on
what you're trying to achieve.
Okay?
So.
There's a lot of guys who are on theWolverine stack, which is BPC 1 5 7
and TB 500 for like muscle getting,getting muscle mass on faster.

(25:46):
Right.
They call it the Wolverine stack.
Right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
There's like, you'll hear the Phoenixstack, which is like a popular woman,
like everybody has their own stack,but how do you create your stack?
You get, you get your healthgoals, like what's going on?
So in Travis's case, there was animmediate, like in your case, there was
an immediate thing that needed attention.
Right.
But then there's also thingsthat you can do for longevity.

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You know, like a lot of people areon BPC 1 57 and TB 500, and they're
just doing that as a longevity play.
A lot of women and men too, areincorporating GHK copper in their,
um, peptide stack because theywant the skin and the hair growth
and the, you know what I mean?
So.
You wanna figure out what you want,like what is your goal, right?
I wanna live longer and lookbeautiful as long as I can.

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And that's your only goal.
Well, then you're gonna be doingyour research for those peptides
specifically, and it's like everybody,even if, even if that's the goal, right?
For some men who experiencepattern balding in their family.
They might be specifically lookingfor things that are gonna help
them with their hair, right?
Whereas people who, they're the men intheir family keep ahead of hair forever.

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They might be more concerned aboutwrinkles and muscle density, bone
or, you know, muscle, uh, compositionand bone density, that kind of thing.
So you wanna get clear on whatthe heck do you want, like what do
you want out of it, you know, ifthere's an injury, if it's immediate.
Then, yeah, your immediate injury andyour first experience with peptides
might be like, what happened to us?

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There's an injury.
We're gonna try it.
We're gonna track our symptoms.
In that case, that's aperfect example, right?
Because I'm gonna tell you what I did.
Again, I'm not a doctor,but here's what I did.
I was like, here's thesymptoms that I'm dealing with.
Um, here's how I measure how intensethose symptoms are, because I, I
don't want to be throwing money atpeptides if I don't need them, right?

(27:36):
So I wanna measure, here's my goaland here's the metrics by which
I will measure whether or not I'mmoving the needle on that goal.
And then here's the, my research on this.
Stack that I believe isgonna work best for me.
And that's where then you wanna getinto cahoots with your practitioner.
And you wanna make sure, like, okay,is, is there any contraindication

(27:57):
in case you're on anything?
Or, or you have a health condition,like obviously you need to do your
own work and do your own research.
We're all grownups here.
So then there's that.
You pick your stack, you do yourresearch, and you pick your stack.
And then for me, like theproof is in the pudding, right?
Like I don't wanna pay for anypeptide that is not getting me a goal.
So.
so that's my process for doing it.

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And then once you've picked yourstack, then you need to look at,
well, what are, you know, theavenues for using that stack.
Okay.
So the vast majority ofpeptides, because they are very
fragile little entities, okay.
They're simple amino acids withsometimes single bond connections and
anything that has like a, you know,anything that's fragile like that.

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You'll see a lot of people in the videosexplaining you how to reconstitute that.
Like don't just squish the bacterialstatic water in there really fast.
Release the water inthere nice and slowly.
Don't shake it up like it's a shakerball where you're trying to get
your creatine to dissolve in thewater with a little metal ball.
No, you don't wanna do that.
You're literally rolling it slowlybecause they're for, they're fragile

(29:02):
bonds and we wanna teach them at youwhen we wanna treat them as such, right?
So some you have to reconstitutewith bacterial static water and
they're injectable some, um.
Like NAD plus, for example, isone that you can reconstitute with
bacterial static saline, and youcan use it as a nasal spray, right?
So if your injectable stack feels alittle heavy, you wanna be looking

(29:23):
for, okay, how many of these couldmaybe be done as a nasal spray?
And if you use the research sitesthat I put in that document, you
can see that it's showing theefficacy based on the delivery model.
So, oh, nasal, you might get, youknow, an 87, whereas injectable is
98, 99, a hundred percent efficacy.
Right.
Well, if you've already got astack that you're injecting a

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lot, it might be worth it to takea tiny hit in, in the injectable
and do a nasal spray, for example.
And then there's this whole debate,and you know, we won't go down
that rabbit hole very far, thatthere's this whole debate of.
Can we take peptides orally?
Okay.
And there is a process, I thinkit's called the stack process.
So there is a process by whichthey're trying to make peptides,

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um, survive the digestive process.
So more people can take them that way.
I've only tried them minimally.
I didn't notice any difference at allthe way that I did with injectables.
So for me, I just bounced rightback to doing injectables.
Then there are some that can beabsorbed topically, so like DHK, copper.
That anytime you ha it hascopper in the name, right?
So there's copper in the peptide.

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Anytime there's a metal that you'reinjecting in the body, you can
have a browning at the site, at theinjection site and it can hurt a
little bit more at the injection site.
That's like the metalinteracting with your body.
I highly recommend you guys ifyou are geeky and like OCD about
this, like me, then go take acourse, read the books, right?
Um, so because of that.
Um, I prefer to do to reconstitutemy GHK copper and either put it in a

(30:53):
roller, like a little roller ball, orI used to put it in a roller ball and
just put it in my, like crow's feetareas at night before I, I went to bed,
but then I talked to one of my favoritecoaches on peptides and she was like,
you could just reconstitute that gh HKcopper and put it in your night serum.
So that's what I do now, justreconstitute it and put it in my night
serum and like, we're good to go.

(31:15):
But that.
So that's topical then,
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So that's a topical one.
But can all of them be absorbed topically?
No.
That's why you have to do your research.
So how do you pick your stack?
Like, well, what am I looking for?
Right.
So for me, and I know that, you know,hopefully this is not too much, but I know
Heather was kind enough to share with me.
I was not so low in rollingthrough struggles when

(31:36):
Yeah.
like hormone changes,
you know, I had to have.
of women are all
Yeah, it's a lot.
So for me, I was like, okay, Iwould like my emotions not to be a
10 when I know it should be a two.
Like, I don't want, like, I'm tall and I'mthin, and I just started to notice like a
redistribution of weight that wasn't me.
And so that was one of my thingsto recenter, you know what I mean?

(31:59):
You have to get really clear onwhat's going on that's bugging you
or that what are your health goals?
Then do your research on what areyour options within that world.
You know, what are thepeptides that can support that?
And some that I'm seeing.
The most exciting for me that I'veseen are my friends who were doing
more conventional GLP ones and theyswitched to like aide peptide instead.

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Which gives you the same benefits asthose they, they, they got the same
benefits as those other GLP ones, but italso had a longevity and beauty place.
So they're like, hell yeah,I'll totally take this.
They only have to do it.
Yeah, once a week.
It's less expensive.
It also had all benefits, so like.
That was a winner whenthey did their research.
And then of course they find out,okay, how do I reconstitute it?

(32:43):
What's my frequency?
What's the duration of the cycle?
Right?
So the cycle is how long do youtake it and then you take it off.
So for example, um, red, uh, like mostpeople I knew are doing 2.5 units and
they're doing it once a week because it'shalf life is six days in the body, right?
And everybody's researchis different, right?
So that's the, the people thatI trust, that's sort of, that's
the conversation that I trust.

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So they're gonna track thatin the tracker right here.
And then they're gonnabe noting their symptoms.
Did they lose weight?
Did they hit a plateau?
Um, you know, some will notice,okay, I love what retro Reddit tide
is doing, but it made me tired.
And then they can circle backand research and find like.
A motzi or an NID might help to, uh, bringthe energy levels back up while their body
is getting used to the way that your bodystarts processing insulin, um, and sugar.

(33:29):
Like it just becomes a differentconversation because it's really,
some of them are really affecting yourbrain and the way that it tells the
body to act, whereas some of them canbe affecting more locally like tissue.
So that's where doing your researchlike, like anything, right, you have
to do your research and make sure.
You know that your stackaligns with your goals.

(33:50):
Yeah, no, that's a great answer.
And, and again, go to, I'm justgonna shout it out again because
like, you gotta get my peptides.com.
I'm like your biggest uh, callto action fan boy right here.
I'm, uh, 'cause there'sa lot of information.
There's probably like morethan we'll ever go into on this
episode because of so much.
So definitely go research, like whatall these different peptides are.

(34:13):
If there's like terms that joy has usedso far, just literally do some research
Yeah, exactly.
And you guys can DM me on Instagramtoo, like I'm totally an open book.
I'm, there's already Joy Houston,she's like a wedding designer.
So I'm at Real Joy Houston.
But like, DM me your questions, youguys like, I'm, I'm happy to help.
I'm happy to help.
Yeah.
And it becomes like this whole thing,like I have this, I dunno if you

(34:35):
can see this, but like, this lookslike a thermos, like I might carry.
Soup to work or something,but it does become like a
lifestyle thing, a culture thing.
And there's people who've like 3Dprinted these cool little containers.
This is what they look like, you guys.
So if you've never seen it, it'slike they come in these little tiny
jars, looks like a little insulin.
But if you were to see itup close, it's a powder.

(34:57):
Right.
like, it's interesting.
It's like a, it's like a, afluffy looking powder, but it
doesn't just like move around.
It's kind of like this.
Patty almost at the bottom, butwhen you put the back water in
there, bacterial static water,
I'm learning all these terms.
Uh, yeah.
When you put it in there, it basicallygoes clear almost immediately.
You know,
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And you said it right?

(35:18):
You roll it, don't shakeit, you just roll it.
Yeah, but you can see it's become a wholesubculture because this thermos did not
have this super cool little thing that I'mlike, it looks like I'm carrying nuclear
secrets around the world or something.
But like, it's like a 3D printed.
So like there is a subculture, there's
such a big subculture of us usingit that somebody thought to do a

(35:39):
3D printed thing that fits likeperfectly inside the thermos.
So you can have stacks of yourpeptides instead of them like.
Rolling around in your freezer and you
know, I was
storing
Yeah,
exactly.
Did you have that like Yeah.
Rolling around.
I kept in the box that I, thatI got it in, but still I'm
like, okay, it's still clunky
Yeah, exactly.

(36:00):
So I keep them in the freezer until Ireconstitute them and then I transfer them
to the refrigerator and they stay in therefrigerator once they're reconstituted.
That's how I do it.
And I even like, and I put the links tothese like weird, I'm so OCD, you could
totally call it, call me out on it.
But like I put the links tofinding the right thermos and.
Finding the 3D inserts on Amazonso you don't have to go hunting.

(36:20):
And like even my little travel case, Iwas just in Florida for, um, Dr. Fab's
event that, that fab life event and hadmy peptides with me with a little cooler.
And by the way, I only had a, a carry on.
And I was like, are theygonna be fine with this?
And sure enough they did look in thebag and I was like, what is this?
And they thought it was insulin.
And I'm like.
It's my peptides and they were like, okay.

(36:42):
You
know, actually they had a ton ofquestions like, oh wow, what using
them for, I've heard good things.
So here I am like chatting with the
TSA.
Yeah,
guy.
well see.
This is all right.
So this is why I wanted to, uh,you know, I don't know, it's like
last question or somewhere aroundthere, but, um, why are peptide, why
does it seem like it's underground?

(37:03):
Why is it a subculture?
Why is it not talked about more freely?
And whereas like when you bringit up to people, people get super
interested, even the fricking TSA agents.
I know, I know.
I mean, I don't wanna
sound like those
wackadoodle, you, like wackadoodle,like tinfoil hack conspiracy theory
people, I, I don't wanna sound like thathonestly, but I have to say that we, it

(37:26):
feels like, and remember like my wholebusiness, my whole world is in the health
and wellness and medical kind of arena.
That's all of the people that I serve.
Okay.
So even as someone who's beenin that space for over a decade,
I will admit that, you know.
Our medical system kind of feelslike a little bit of a mess, right?
Like we're overpaying for ourinsurance premiums and apparently

(37:50):
they're about to double, right?
And then God forbid you have to use it.
Yeah, right.
God, for God forbid, you actuallyhave to use that insurance and
then you find out, well, shit, itdoesn't cover anything anyways.
Right?
And then you find people who aretrying to say that like, oh, diet
and lifestyle make a difference.
And something like, let's say stem cellsfor example, might make a difference

(38:12):
or someone finds that, oh, highalkalizing the body when you have cancer
is showing That makes a difference.
Well, for God's sake, Robert Young, whoadvocated for alkalizing, when someone has
an extreme disease like cancer in whichthe body, you know, can be very acidic in
that state and those people are in jail.
Or like how many people do you know thatlike went to get stem cells, but they

(38:33):
had to go to Mexico, or Sweden or Norway.
They had to travel abroadto get these things because.
There's no way to slap a patenton it and to make it at scale and
make shit tons of money on it.
So again, I don't wanna be one ofthose weirdos who's like a copi.
I don't wanna be like that.
But at the same time, I cannot denythat there are things that happen in

(38:57):
the health and wellness space that dokind of stay underground for reasons
that unfortunately seem like theyhave a lot more to do with money and,
and business and politics and just.
Bullshit than it does withOh, that that actually works.
So I do think, unfortunately,that's part of it.

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And then why does thisone stay underground?
I have to say, no matter whatsite I've ever, ever ordered my
peptides from, they all say like,legit on the site, on the bottle.
They all say.
For research only, or likesomeone will be like, oh, not for
human consumption or whatever.
So like they've kept this whole thingwhere the F FDA is not just gonna

(39:38):
green light it and be like, woo-hoo,everybody take peptides and you can get
them at your local health food store.
Um, so I, I think, you know,unfortunately, I think it
has to do with just our, our
The system.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
And I mean, that's the story I'veheard from literally everyone
who knows enough about peptides.
So I don't think it's a,even a tinfoil hat really.

(40:00):
Um,
Okay.
I'll, I'll just say, and, and I think youknow that too, but, um, the, like, I, I
host a separate podcast from this one.
I don't talk about it a lot, I reallyshould, but it's called the TPE Blueprint
and it's with a, uh, company called MDLifespan and this Dr. Dr. Paul Savage.
It's great.
Um,
Is that the blood circulation wherethey're, they're filtering and taking

(40:23):
all the like plastics and molds and
Correcto window.
I
Yeah.
week, so I did
Wow.
How are you feeling?
I feel fabulous.
And, um, yeah, I'll quickly sayit, because their treatment is,
um, it's not covered by insurance.
At least like, not for most people.
It's pricier than most people can afford,but the idea is they want to go more

(40:44):
at scale and, and make it affordable.
Um, but it's.
It's expensive right now.
I mean.
So, um, yeah, but it's literally, I,and I'll do a whole episode on this
probably later on, but they cycledeight liters of my blood, so that's
all of my blood, and it took two and ahalf hours and immediately it pulls out
all of the plasma from my, my blood.

(41:07):
I held up these.
All the plasma that came outta me atthe end of it, it was like this really,
or dark orange, orange juice almost.
And that was, it's cloudy becauseof toxins and other stuff.
But, um, I'll, I'll do a couple moresessions, so that should lighten up.
And, um, so
it's like in another month I'mgonna do it again, and then a
month after, that's basically, um.

(41:28):
But, uh, I mean, I guess justto say the process really fast,
so it's not like lingering.
So all the blood comes out, plasma getspulled out then, so I have blood going
out of one arm back in the other arm.
Kinda like you're
donating plasma.
Mm-hmm.
bla back in.
Okay, got it.
But, uh, they have albumin.
Put into my blood along with some, uh, Ithink it was some, um, uh, saline or just

(41:51):
something that basically wouldn't clot,but the albumin is essentially, um, it's
from donated human plasma that's beenlike radiated cleaned and all that stuff.
So it's clear, it's like a yellowy clear,but that basically is like a placeholder
until my plasma regrows it takes like 78hour or 72 hours or something like that.
For your own plasma to regrow

(42:11):
correct.
correct.
it.
Got it.
Yep.
And so it took about, yeah.
And right after I get that done,that took two and a half hours.
Then there's an IV had like 14,15 different supplements and you
know, minerals and all that stuffthat gets put right back into me.
So it takes another hour and um, andthen now I'm doing this like clean shake.

(42:31):
There's basically still a detoxprotocol happening, but um, I was
just a little tired afterwards, youknow, and that's normal blood sugar
level comes down, all that stuff.
But.
Literally, I'm like wakingup way less brain fog.
It's like more of a clean focusfeel, if that makes sense.
Like not jittery.
I mean I started with 23 toxinsand a lot of molds, weirdly

(42:55):
enough molds, uh, microplastics.
Those are hard to test for, but weall have it in us, like even in our
brains, our, it's fucking nasty.
Even kids are being born withthis stuff right now, like
from utero.
So.
It's in everything, but basically, um, allthat stuff's gonna get taken out, so it
should go to zero after these sessions.

(43:15):
And, um, but again, it's, it's a protocol.
It's something that mostpeople don't know what it is.
That's why we started a podcast on it and.
We have doctors of all sorts of walks oflife, a lot of precision medicine doctors,
because they're not in the system andthey're saying the same shit you are Joy.
So I wouldn't hold back.
There's like, well,you know, you gotta do.

(43:38):
It's not it, like it's, it's, there'sstudies on, it's been around for
years, but for whatever reason, yourinsurance isn't gonna cover because
it doesn't follow their protocol.
Yeah, exactly.
And then the moment someone goes onlineand says, oh, I did that process and my
years of suffering with mold migraines,or, you know, any of those things, then,
um, you know, then we have to be reallycareful to protect our clients like

(44:01):
that because then, oh, is that a claim?
Are they, you know, and thenbefore you know it, you've got the.
Best people wanting to lead us to optimalhealth in orange jumpsuits because
they're doing the right thing, you know?
So, yeah.
Uh, but we should have a sideconversation about that because,
um, that process is definitelysomething my practitioner audience
would be very, very interested in.

(44:22):
So, I'll, I'll messageHeather and see You guys
Awesome.
for dinner anyways.
Absolutely.
We'll make it happen.
I need something, uh, Travis'.
Nice cocktails, you know, he's, he
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Top
notch, right?
Then you're gonna need another blood
transfusion.
You know, it's, yeah, like I don't drinkmuch, but I'm like, you know, I've had,
you know, a couple wines since then, andI, it's weird because like the cravings

(44:44):
of certain things have definitely dropped.
It's only been like aweek, um, like it's still
early, but.
Okay.
I want the inside scoop on that.
It is very interesting because I feellike the effects, like I just, it, it's
a lot cleaner of what I put in my body.
Assuming it's gonna begood though more or less.
But even like alcohol, I'mlike, don't really feel any
weird, like I don't need it.
But even then, I had a beer the othernight at speakeasy, normally I'm like, I

(45:08):
feel a little bit, I'm like, felt fine.
And I was
like, didn't even honestly feel the beer.
I was like, wow, this is,it was more of a test.
I'm like, am I gonnafeel the high A, B, B?
Didn't really feel it.
So.
Yeah.
Yeah.
happening, but
Yeah, but I think like you, like you'rein the marketing space, in that AI space,
in the entrepreneurial space, and here youare doing something that's at the bleeding

(45:29):
edge of what's possible with our health.
And that's, that's how Joe and Icame to be talking about this, right?
Because we're both in that same space.
He's who serves a differentniche than me, right?
But I do see that in our industry.
Maybe that's because we'reblessed to be, you know, abundant
and have the, the bandwidth tobe able to do stuff like that.
And
I fully, fully acknowledge that.

(45:50):
Yeah.
That this is an, like he said,that process is expensive.
Peptides are, you know, grossly expensivein some cases, very affordable if you do
them responsibly and source them well.
Um, but I do think there is this, in ourspace that we swim in, there is a lot
of, of desire to stay on top of our game,to stay in the forefront of our health.

(46:10):
I love that, that now came out onthe podcast because the more that
we're all willing to say, Hey, Ifeel like I have an unfair advantage,
and I, I, I would like everyone elseto know too, because if I'm getting
wins, I, I want to share those wins.
I'm, I'm super stoked that we'regetting to share that and I
don't own that company like that.
Any of those like.
You know?
Yeah, there's like aAmazon, but who cares?

(46:32):
It's just, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm just like, if there'sinformation that we can share with your
audience, my audience, like let's do it.
Like let's get the word out there.
You know?
We
Amen.
to the singularity, right?
I don't know.
Some say that we're actuallythere already with ai, so I dunno.
I believe it.
I believe it.
I think
Travis would go ahead and plug right in.

(46:52):
Oh yeah, I know he definitely would.
I might be right behind him I'lllet him test it first though.
No, I'm ha joy, I'm stokedthat we talked about this.
I know.
We'll, we will do a round two onmore of like some of the Heal at
Scale stuff that you're doing.
Talk about your book and how uh,practitioners are scaling themselves.
'cause that's what you do all the time.

(47:12):
But I, I think there's a. You know,there's, that concept can be also applied
to a ton of other business owners.
Right.
Yeah.
And you know how it is, it's like goodbusiness strategy, good marketing,
good sales processes, honestly, likethose apply to any, any business owner.
Um, but for me, like when I lookedback over all the, you know, clients
of our first decade at Launcher, it waslike, which clients do I love the most?

(47:36):
Which ones would I like,jump outta bed to serve?
And it was all the.
The wellness, the, the health, the pe, thehealth celebrities, those kind of things.
And so that's how come we went, youknow, we went and did Heal at Scale
because I love serving that audience.
But yeah, what we're gonna talk aboutnext time, it'll serve everybody.
It's changed the quality of mylife because literally I work the
first three weeks of the month.

(47:57):
And then we have what we call Thrive Week.
And I'm gonna tell you how we gotthere, how we set it up, and how all
of our practitioners had followed suit.
Um, and they absolutely love it.
So I wanna make sure youraudience knows how to do that.
We'll talk about that next time.
That is rad.
And is Heather my wife gonna loveThrive, thrive Week if I apply
is gonna love it.
You are gonna love it.
You'll have a little bit of paranoia thatwill set in that it's not gonna work.

(48:20):
My clients will freak out,my business will fall apart.
And like, um, and I only knowthat because I experienced
that myself, you know?
Um, um, but now it's the San.
Saving marriage, enhancing money,making like secret of how we get
so much done, so efficiently andwe stay so passionate about it.
We, we never, we're neveron the thread of burnout.

(48:42):
Nice.
Okay.
Um, we are gonna recordthat one very soon.
So let's, uh, uh,
y'all keep a look out for it.
I think so.
So, all right, joy, is thereanything else on the peptide, things
that we left uncovered and, um.
If so, let me know.
But if not, what's something like you'resuper excited about or just looking
forward to in terms of maybe it'speptides or just health in general that

(49:05):
you're like, you know, the biohackerstuff, like anything that you're kind of
yeah.
yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
So there is a peptide that I'mexperimenting and um, this is for
both the ladies and the men out therebecause it worked for both sexes.
But it is a, um, uh, libidoenhancing, like on the spot.
Like you can just be like,okay, well it's date night.

(49:25):
You're like, okay, 45 minutes before datenight, I'm gonna try this new peptide.
So I will report back whenwe record the other one.
Like, okay, did, was itawesome or not awesome.
Maybe that's tm, TMI for
your audience, but like, I'mreally excited about, I'm really
excited about try, uh, excitedabout trying that one for sure.
Like that one's definitely

(49:45):
Just so we're seeding that
Oh my gosh, you're so, I'm, I actually,it's so new that I don't, I need
to grab my phone and like, tell youreally quick, but I totally will.
open right now.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I'm gonna pull up my, I'mgonna pull up my order and I'll
tell you exactly which one it
is.
Yeah, exactly.
But you know what, it was justone of those things that like,

(50:06):
you know, as you age, you wanna belike, okay, how do I optimize for
all the things that make life fun
and having your libido hang.
That definitely keeps things fun.
Okay.
I'm gonna, I'm literallypulling up my order form.
So you guys wanna see, I get to putmy secretary glasses on for you.
There you go.
So the one that I'm trying is called PT 14 1, P as in Paul, T as in Tom, 1, 4, 1.

(50:30):
And I'll definitely give y'all thelow down when we come down to come
back to talk about Thrive Week.
And I'll tell you another for sure.
That's one.
And then NAD plus was a, I wasnoticing that I got a little tired
when I did my round of, um, red aide.
And so there were twooptions for like sort of.
You know, balancing that outwhile your body's adjusting,

(50:52):
which makes sense, right?
Because if you're gonna start optimizingthe way that your body, you know,
processes glucose or you know uses fat,then of course any of that's gonna change
your energy the way how much energyyou have as your body's balancing out.
So my options to sort of offsetthat, were NAD plus and mot C,
and I went with NAD plus and.

(51:14):
I love it.
It's like I do 10 milligrams threetimes a week, three 10 or 10 units.
So like on an insulin syringe,it shows that 10 units, right?
I do 10 units three timesa week, and it's like bam.
No, like morning drag?
No, in the afternoon.
Okay.
I would like to take a littlecter, whatever, and like, yeah.
I absolutely love it.

(51:35):
I absolutely love it.
Do you, uh, so do you take yourpeptides in the morning or is
there later in the day, or does it
Okay, so that's a great question.
So for me, and this a good reason for youto have the A have the tracker, um, a do
your research B have the tracker, right.
So I do my stack in the morning andthen I do a KPV injection at night.

(51:56):
So I do half of my K pv.
KPV is just a verystrong anti-inflammatory.
Um, and so I do kvs in my morningstack, but I do my, the other
half of my dose in the evening.
Got you.
So it's, it is gonna spread out KPV.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And you'll see that when you gointo that document that I made you
guys at Get My Peptides, um.com.

(52:18):
If you go into that document and you godown to my favorite educational resources,
literally I have open on my phone in oneof my chrome tabs on my phone that, um,
pedia.org, like that's my favorite one forjust looking at the dosage, the timing.
Also if you're like, Hey, I've decidedthat I'm gonna take this stack, right?

(52:39):
This is my stack, but maybe youhear about a cool one from a friend.
I don't add anything to my stack.
A, I don't add more than one thing at atime because I wanna test and see, like
I wanna be able to track the results.
And I always go on thereand say, is there a.
Like a contraindication or is onegonna nullify another one because I
Why You don't wanna raise your money.
Right.
So I love that as a resource forchecking my dosage, my timing, and any

(53:04):
other peptides that it might, um, besynergistic with, meaning that it makes
it work even better or that it mightdetract from the efficacy of that.
And it'll tell you other peptidesand even other like medications.
So it's super, super helpful.
yeah.
No, that's literally what I'm lookingup as you were naming some of these, so.
If you felt like you got super lost withwhatever Joy might have said, go to pep

(53:25):
pdia.org and it's, again, it's in the,the document that, that, uh, joy shared.
Yeah, Yeah, look it up.
Look it up.
And also in that education you'llsee that, you'll see a lot of the
like online courses that I took justfor my own personal information.
And there's some reallygood ones in there.
That one that's listed from,there's a couple listed from

(53:45):
her, but Dr. Tracy Strub.
Um, her courses are really good becausethey're condition specific, so they're
so, and you get little protocols,you can print them out and like.
Okay.
This person in my family is looking,working on weight loss, or if you're
working on a gut issue or if you'vebeen struggling with depression or a

(54:05):
DD, like she has condition specificprotocols that she explains and she
explains all of the options of all ofthe peptides that are known to have
rock solid research in that area.
And then she helps you decide,or like narrow it down.
Okay, well if all these peptides canhave an effect, what is the effect?
What is the research, howshould I put my stack together?

(54:26):
And she's very conservative, so like, likebe minimal instead of maximalist with what
she's, she's throwing at it, you know?
And I love having theprinted out protocols.
Like I, I mean, I don't physicallyprint them 'cause I don't wanna be
wasteful, but I have them on deck, onmy iPad and I just flip through them.
So if, you know, my friends orfamily are asking, I'm like,
well, you could look at this.
I'm not your doctor, but you could look at
Mm-hmm.

(54:47):
Well, that's why I'm going to justsend them now to get my peptides.com.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Yeah.
me questions, I'm like, just go there.
Yeah.
Like it's
Yeah,
and it's not an opt-in you guys, again,like my business is heal@scale.com.
It's a completely different business,and when you go there you'll see opt-ins
and normal funnels and stuff like that.
This is like, I love Joeand his wife Heather.

(55:08):
They're amazing, and if they're halfwaydecent to this audience as they are to
us and our community, then I just wantedto show up big and be like, Hey, don't
waste your time doing all the research.
If I can let you stand onmy shoulders, let's go.
The show, uh, you and Travis bothOverdelivered and shout out to him.
I know he is not
right here, but I'm surehe'll hear about it.
Give him a big, big, big old hug.

(55:30):
And I know.
I, I, yeah.
Well you got the, uh, the paybackof the B PC 1, 5, 7, I think,
uh, the
of course.
Yeah.
Thank you, dude.
Thank you.
you so, um, joy, this is amazing.
Love you too.
Love Travis.
You are amazing.
We're gonna come, uh, you know, likewe're gonna have some cocktails.
Have a good time and talk more.
Of course.
Yes.

(55:50):
Alright you guys, I'm gonna plug itbecause in case he doesn't, but like,
if you're not following this guy, ifyou're not subscribing to this guy, if
you're not telling your friends aboutthis guy, then you are not spreading the
love that is available to everyone witheverything that he brings to market.
So I'm just gonna give you that shout out,
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
It makes me cry over here.

(56:10):
Yes, do that and then follow joy as well.
Um, heal@scale.com.
Anywhere else?
You said the, uh, real joyHouston on Instagram, right else.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a great place.
If they just have questions or like wanna
Sweet.
personal stack or whatever,like I'm an open book
I know, I know.
All right.
Round two is coming soon.
All right, y'all.
So keep a lookout for joy.
All right.
Thank you.
Bye.

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