October 25, 2024 • 30 mins
Lisa Viviano and Dr. Liz brave a sensitive topic by sharing their experience with bladder leakage. They discuss how unexpected factors contributes to it, and how hypnosis helped them both immensely not just keep control but also feel more confident again that they can live without peeing themselves without warning!
The improvement that Lisa had in bladder control led her to change her career in the dental field and train in hypnosis. She became a “hypnosis consultant” herself. She talks about how it has been “life altering” and gives tips for successful hypnosis.
And they both share their “magic phrases” that help them stay dry and in control!
About Lisa
You can reach Lisa through her website https://www.lisaviviano-ch.com
Her email: ch.lisaviviano@gmail.com or her phone number: 267-808-1533
About Dr. Liz
Winner of numerous awards including Top 100 Moms in Business, Dr. Liz provides psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, and hypnosis to people wanting a fast, easy way to transform all around the world. She has a PhD in Clinical Psychology, is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) and has special certification in Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy. Specialty areas include Anxiety, Insomnia, and Deeper Emotional Healing.
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Dr. Liz (00:00):
Hi, lisa, welcome to the Hypnotize Me
podcast.
Hi H, dr Liz, thanks for having me.
was very excited to have you on because I
think you're going to make a difference in
a huge amount of women's lives.
Because this episode is focused on women, I
mean, obviously someone could listen for
(00:21):
their girlfriend or wife or partner,
whoever.
I mean, obviously someone could listen for
their girlfriend or wife or partner,
whoever, but, but probably mostly women are
going to be listening to this because it's
about bladder leakage.
Lisa Viviano (00:31):
Yes.
Dr. Liz (00:31):
Yes.
Lisa Viviano (00:32):
Yeah, A really big.
I think it's can be a secret for some of us
because it can be embarrassing.
Dr. Liz (00:39):
Yeah, absolutely, yes, yes.
So let's talk about how we met and then how
you started doing this work and tell people
what kind of effects it has and all that
good stuff.
We're going to get to all of that.
Lisa Viviano (00:53):
Okay, great.
So yeah, I met you in Orlando at a hypnosis
conference, the ICBCH hypnosis conference.
It was my first conference and we was it.
It was my first.
Dr. Liz (01:09):
Oh, I didn't know that, okay.
Lisa Viviano (01:11):
Yeah, yeah.
And we were at a table and I think one of
us invited you to sit with us or you said
can I sit here?
Because a lot of people didn't know each
other and we just got talking about how we
got into hypnosis, what brought us to
become hypnotherapists, consulting
(01:34):
hypnotists, that type of thing.
And I was very impressed when I met you
that with your vast background and
knowledge and then just your belief and the
knowing of the power of our subconscious
mind and how we can really change it pretty
(01:55):
easily.
So then I think what occurred was that I
started sharing my story of how I got into
hypnosis.
So my quick background is I started out in
the dental field and then I eventually
progressed to being a teacher of dental
(02:16):
assisting in the career in tech high school
and then, when I had some life changes, I
decided that I wanted to do something that
could help people and as well, be kind of
flexible with my schedule and location and
stuff like that.
(02:37):
So I had suffered with incontinence for a
while, suffered with incontinence for a
while.
I believe when I gave birth to my son it
(02:58):
kind of started where it sort of felt like
I had a weak bladder and then I.
It just got worse.
Uh, especially when emotions arise in my
life stresses and different life changes
came up, such as divorce, such as death, so
anything that made me nervous.
So what happened was I was seeking all
(03:19):
different therapies for it and I ended up
with my chiropractor and I mentioned to her,
like you know, I'm struggling with this and
she said why don't you try hypnosis?
And she gave me a card of a gentleman who
did hypnosis.
I never thought of hypnosis, never even
experienced anything around hypnosis.
(03:41):
So I I went, I trusted her advice and went
to this man's home and, like part of me was
a little nervous about that, but uh, had
you ever had hypnosis before that?
Dr. Liz (03:55):
Never never, didn't know anything about it.
Lisa Viviano (03:58):
Didn't know anything about it.
I mean, maybe I saw a little bit of stage
hypnosis, but I don't even think that was
live.
That was like on TV or something.
I just was never present to experiencing it.
So I went to his home and it was just a
really great process and the way my bladder
(04:22):
control worked for me, or lack thereof, was
kind of like little strange triggers.
So, I would pull up to the house after work
and as I turn the doorknob to go into my
house, I feel this urge to just go and I'd
(04:42):
have to race into the bathroom like, not
even greet the dog, just like race into the
bathroom.
And when I got home from hypnosis that
didn't happen.
It was.
It was the cure.
I was blown away.
That one session in my mind cured me, but
(05:04):
then I was was a bad client because I
didn't follow through with the homework.
I didn't do much of what he had advised me
to do to keep it going and looking back, I
think, wow, even though I didn't do much, I
was pretty good for a good month or so.
(05:28):
None of those triggers.
That's wow, I'm great.
And prior to that it was really, really
rough.
It was, it was really altering to my life.
Dr. Liz (05:40):
I mean, at that point, before you went,
were you like wearing pads, were you yeah?
Lisa Viviano (05:46):
I was not willing to get too heavy into
like big pads but I would wear like panty
liners.
Dr. Liz (05:54):
Okay.
Lisa Viviano (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to recall because
this story kind of shifts, because then I
got back into it worse.
Dr. Liz (06:05):
Okay, let's hear the worst then.
Lisa Viviano (06:08):
Yeah.
So then I life got so crazy, so busy and I
slowly slipped back into struggling.
And and then I recall I had a extra set of
panties in my drawer at work and I would
(06:28):
wear scrubs to teach.
So I would have a pair of scrubs there in
my car too, like it was out of control,
really bad, trying to limit how much I'm
eating stuff like that.
And I know my triggers were when stress
would come up, you know, like I had a
(06:48):
meeting or something.
Then I would just feel like, oh, you know,
losing it.
Um, so then I forgot, and that was about
four years in between.
Wow I forgot that, what I had done to cure
it.
So then I started on this whole cycle.
(07:10):
I went to a pelvic floor specialist.
I was doing a million Kegel exercises.
I had the vaginal weights oh yeah Working
with them.
I was just doing everything possible.
And so Then I kind of tapped into my divine
(07:32):
source and I said guide me, to help me get,
like, solve this problem.
And then it came to me you did hypnosis
four years ago, like don't you even
remember.
So then I called him back and this time I
(07:53):
went for more sessions, because that was
only one session.
I went for like four sessions.
I followed through, was really great with
it, really consistent, and learned how to
do it myself self-hypnosis, and that really
helped me.
(08:14):
So since then I can say I'm about 90% cured.
Wow, if something really massive is going
on, like really a crisis, a trauma, I can
say I might have a little problem.
Okay, then I have to just take a step back
(08:36):
and reflect on that and do my practice.
Dr. Liz (08:39):
Okay, so what was the home practice that he
gave you?
Lisa Viviano (08:45):
Basically it was, as you're familiar with
self-hypnosis, really tapping into your
imagination, which to me hypnosis is a lot
of manifestation, meditation, as one of my
clients says, on steroids.
So really tapping in.
(09:06):
And with other things that have come up in
my life, I'm just constantly being reminded
of how much I have to tap into my feelings
around it and really see and imagine.
So one of those examples is I had Achilles
(09:28):
heel trouble and it was.
It was awful.
I couldn't go up and down steps easily.
I couldn't walk real good, like it just
hurt.
Couldn't walk the dog, it just hurt a lot.
Dr. Liz (09:41):
I had it recently due to um, I had to take
around a Cipro, which is an antibiotic
which caused Achilles heel tendonitis.
Lisa Viviano (09:52):
I would never even know that, oh my gosh.
I wonder if I was taking an antibiotic then
that's interesting.
Dr. Liz (10:00):
It's really painful.
It is you feel like you can't walk.
I know I can't walk.
Lisa Viviano (10:08):
I love to walk.
Dr. Liz (10:09):
Yeah, yeah Great.
Lisa Viviano (10:11):
I love to walk my dog and with my husband
and all.
So the saving grace was I could bicycle.
That wouldn't hurt me.
So I was going to physical therapy and it
was kind of like helping somewhat.
And I'm doing my own self-hypnosis around
it and I'm just getting really frustrated
(10:33):
because I'm not seeing the results I want.
And then I realized you're not imagining it,
All you're doing is going through your
words and just like a robot.
So then I started imagining myself flying
up and down the steps walking the dog.
(10:53):
Telling my husband or my friend like, yeah,
I can go for a walk and just feeling like
how good that's going to feel Took about
four days.
I haven't had the pain since.
Once in a while I'll feel a little tinge
and I say to myself this will pass and it's
not eventful.
Fantastic, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(11:16):
So that's really good.
And then around the incontinence, like I
was invited this was around the time I was
divorcing.
I had so much going on.
That was really rough in life Starting a
new career, my mom had passed away, my dad
(11:37):
had a stroke, I was divorcing, hurricane
Sandy, everything all at once.
And I was invited to a bar mitzvah in
Nashville, like my best friend's son, and I
said that I would take her mother, who was
in her 80s, and we went to the Philly
(12:00):
airport.
You made our way.
I visited probably every restroom and this
80 year old never went until she arrived to
her daughter's house.
Year old never went until she arrived to
her daughter's house.
Wow.
And so that was another thing.
I was like, yeah, something has to change.
(12:21):
Yeah, this isn't right.
So, uh, that was for the second round.
Like then I I knew you know I gotta do
something.
But it was funny how I completely forgot
what cured it.
Dr. Liz (12:32):
Yeah, and then you remembered yes, yeah.
So that experience did it lead you to seek
training in hypnosis?
Is that how, eventually, you became a
hypnosis consultant?
Lisa Viviano (12:49):
Yes, eventually I was in transition.
My husband and I wanted to make some
changes.
He was thinking of downscaling what he did
and we wanted to just make changes and not
this was so helpful for me and learn about
it.
So then I got my training and that was in
(13:20):
2020.
So perfect timing around that, okay,
because it was a virtual training and just
did that, and it's been wonderful since
then.
Life altering totally life altering yeah.
Dr. Liz (13:35):
Yeah, it's a wonderful, I think career way
avenue to help people.
It makes a huge difference in their lives,
so for me that creates a lot of meaning for
me.
Lisa Viviano (13:49):
Yes, yes, absolutely.
That's how.
That's exactly how I feel around it and and
I feel so blessed that it's it's easy to
deliver virtually.
It's easy to do in person.
(14:17):
Know how to do self-hypnosis and you've
experienced it.
Dr. Liz (14:22):
It applies to everything that can crop up
in your life yes, it can certainly help a
lot of things, like we're not going to
regrow an arm, but smaller stuff it can
certainly.
I mean some of the larger stuff too.
All kinds of gi problems, migraines,
headaches, um cancer.
There was a study that they had two groups
(14:45):
of women with breast cancer and the ones
who attended a hypnosis group lived 18
months longer on average.
So it yeah, it's incredible when you really
look at some of the medical research, cause
sometimes people think about it just for
like, stop smoking, lose weight.
You know things like that.
Those are life altering for sure.
(15:07):
Stop smoking or stop vaping.
I do a lot of stop vaping these days.
I mean that affects everything in
somebody's life, but it sort of feels like
small beans compared to some of the medical
things like cancer and burns and that type
of thing.
Really so well, my side of the story is
(15:29):
after that lunch, like I kept your contact
information.
I think you gave me a card.
I also had your email.
I think you had reached out to me about ADD
or something like that, and so I kept your
email because I was starting had reached
out to me about ADD or something like that,
and so I kept your email because I was
starting to have some leakage and my best
friend had like a ton, a ton.
She was wearing a full on pad to go for
(15:51):
like an hour walk or something and having
to change it too.
Yeah, during the walk.
Yeah, it's bad.
It wasn't too bad for me yet.
I mean, after my kids I couldn't jump on a
trampoline for the life of me.
you know, nothing like that.
But finally it got to the point where I was
out to dinner with my husband one night and
(16:14):
sneezed I think it's.
Oh no, I had a cough, that's what it was.
So before I sneeze I'd have to, like you
know, do my keg off right, Just to be sure.
But with a cough, forget it.
It was bad sometimes and I was thinking
should I wear a panty line or a pad or
something like that?
(16:34):
So I was out to dinner one night and I I
had a cough and felt like, oh my God, like
I just wet myself, Like I don't even have a
jacket to tie around my waist, but I would.
I would have like we used to do in middle
school when, like our, you know, our period
would come and you tie the jacket around
your waist and be like all humiliated, yeah.
(16:58):
And so after that incident, I reached out
to you and said, hey, can you do this for
me?
Cause I remembered that that's how you had
gotten into it, and it was incredibly
effective, incredibly Like it went to
almost zero for me, to the point where I
didn't really I don't think about it that
often anymore, Occasionally when I'm
(17:20):
sitting in a certain position which is sort
of like on the couch and relaxing and I
have to sneeze or cough.
It's like, oh, like occasionally a little
leakage, but hardly ever.
Even so, I just found it incredibly
effective and thought if more women knew
(17:42):
about this it could help them.
It could really change their lives, because
it really does impact our lives.
Lisa Viviano (17:49):
It does and yeah, you just have to navigate
like almost it's a fear thing, I think.
At least for me it was like because you're
scared, Are you going to have a problem and
then what are you going to do?
Or where is every bathroom when you're out?
Yes, If you go on a road trip, how many
(18:13):
miles till the rest stop?
And that's really unsettling.
It is Now with you.
Did you feel like it connected to any kind
of feeling inside you?
Dr. Liz (18:27):
I never identified like it's related to
stress, or it gets worse then, or it gets
worse.
I think I reached out before it got really
bad, like I thought it was bad at the time
until I heard like other people's stories
including yours I was like, oh mine's,
mine's not actually that bad.
So, yeah, let's do this now before
something like that happens.
(18:47):
Yeah.
Yeah, it was never like rushing to the
bathroom, nothing like that.
More those type of actions where I had to
like sneeze or cough or brace or something
like that.
Lisa Viviano (19:02):
Yeah.
Dr. Liz (19:03):
I'm trying to remember.
If it was, I mean, it had to be a little
more than that before.
I think it's really interesting.
Like after we have a problem, I sometimes
have difficulty remembering how bad it was
before.
Does that happen to you too?
Yes, yes, it does.
I think it was the volume for me, so it
(19:24):
wasn't even like frequency, it was just
more like that dinner I felt like whoa,
that's not a little leak, that's not like a
spot in my underwear that's going to dry,
that's like we have to leave the restaurant.
You know, yeah, yeah, we have to leave the
(19:47):
restaurant.
You know, and I don't know, with with um,
the second husband, it's like the only time
he's ever seen me use the restroom.
This may be TMI for some people is when I
was in the hospital and I had to after
surgery, and even then I thought about
asking the aid like no, he can't do this.
Like like you're gonna have to do it
because I don't.
I keep some things just private, I just
like exactly.
Lisa Viviano (20:08):
I don't want that whole like.
Dr. Liz (20:09):
I don't know.
Some people are way more open about that.
Yeah, so it's not like I could be like
honey, I wet myself.
We need to leave, like I didn't want to say
that.
Lisa Viviano (20:19):
You know, it's like yeah, yeah, I mean, I
eventually did tell him.
Dr. Liz (20:23):
but you know, it was that point where I
reached out for help from you.
Yeah, and I actually enjoyed the homework.
The phrase I came up with.
It modifies some in my mind, but I think
the original one was I am dry and
comfortable and fully in control.
I am dry and comfortable and fully in
control and so sometimes I will say that
(20:46):
right before a sneeze or a cough.
I'll say it to myself and it works, it
works.
Lisa Viviano (20:54):
You have to say that pretty quick, I do.
I'm not saying it at the pace.
Dr. Liz (20:57):
I'm just more like I'm dry and comfortable
and fully in control Achoo or in between
right, yeah, that's really good.
It continues to help me.
Lisa Viviano (21:09):
Right, right, yeah, it's a nice reminder.
It is, it is.
It's a good reminder.
Mine's very simple, it's just I'm okay, I'm
okay.
Yeah, simple, it's just I'm okay.
(21:31):
Yeah, like I feel like mine is a
combination of how yours there's a term,
and I'm not able to recall it, about the
kind of incontinence, so yours is sort of
prompted by you know, like you said,
jumping on the trampoline or the cough or
sneeze.
Mine's like urgency With mine.
Definitely it's prompted with my emotions,
(21:52):
yes.
So that's why I think simply saying I'm
okay means like I'm okay, I'm safe.
Yes, means like I'm okay, I'm safe.
Yes, you know, there's no reason to be
scared with this emotion.
Or you know, in this moment I'm okay.
And taking that breath and kind of
anchoring in those positive thoughts and
(22:13):
those feelings.
Dr. Liz (22:14):
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, and I think that varies from person
to person, Like when you come up with a
custom phrase that's put into a hypnosis
that's specific to you.
I think that's really important for what's
going on with this type of problem bladder
leakage because it is influenced by so many
(22:35):
different things.
So sometimes people just try a download, a
free download, or when they even pay for on
the internet, that's not custom to them and
it misses that piece of like.
Oh no, like.
This varies by individual.
So what is it for you that's going to help
you tell the subconscious mind you don't
(22:58):
need to leak, yes, you have full control
basically yes, exactly what words are going
to resonate with you?
Lisa Viviano (23:07):
and and, as well, I'm interested to see if
you agree, dr Liz, that the words have to
be the right words.
Like I was taught, that if we say I will,
(23:29):
if we say I will, will, is kind of it's
loose, it's not like I am, yes, we're going
to.
You want to phrase it in the present yes, I
start the same thing, absolutely yeah, and
and also ends with the feeling that you
want the good feeling that you want, yes,
mine, mine is always um, it's easy for me
to have control and I feel calm.
(23:52):
Yes, right.
So having that feeling, because then our
subconscious it definitely wants to do what
we want it to do.
But the messages kind of get mixed
sometimes and then I think it can become
habitual, almost.
(24:12):
So this is that retraining, you know.
So it works out really well, giving us that
strength and just that proof around it that
it's going to work and the confidence that
you get from that, yes, agreed, and yeah.
Dr. Liz (24:31):
it is interesting because, as I began to
read more about it, it's like you're not
supposed to start wearing pads or panty
liners or have changes of clothes, because
it does teach your body like, oh, it's okay,
it's okay to go now.
It's like, oh, that's the last thing you
want.
You know Exactly, yes, but of course.
(24:54):
I think, we all do that when we're trying
to figure out the solution before we really
know, like, what to do.
We obviously don't want to walk around in a
wet pair of panties or scrubs, right?
Lisa Viviano (25:07):
Right, right, exactly, yeah, yeah, it
definitely gives us that message.
I even read maybe um tmi, but you shouldn't
pee in the shower, really, because that's
not the appropriate place to pee, and it's
like it's kind of, once again, you're
giving your body this mixed signal like
(25:29):
standing up like women.
Don't go standing up, Got it.
Dr. Liz (25:34):
Yeah, oh, really interesting.
I didn't come across that piece, so it
really is retraining ourselves, retraining
our subconscious mind and the conscious
mind like all right, pee in the toilet,
that's it, that only time.
Yes, we're the woods if we have to, exactly
if you're forced.
Lisa Viviano (25:55):
Yes, sometimes you just have to.
Dr. Liz (25:58):
Yeah, okay, interesting.
Well, we're coming to the end here, so can
you let people know how to contact you if
they'd like hypnosis for bladder leakage,
or we could?
What would the positive be?
Lisa Viviano (26:12):
hypnosis for um dry and comfortable yeah,
exactly um hypnosis for complete bladder
control and confidence there you go.
Dr. Liz (26:25):
hypnosis for complete bladder control and
confidence.
Okay, we've got the title of the episode
now.
Lisa Viviano (26:37):
That sounds good.
Yeah, how can they reach you?
Okay, so my website is actually my first
and last name, lisaviviano-chcom,
(26:59):
lisaviviano-chcom, and my email is
chlisaviviano at gmailcom and you can
always text or call me at 267-808-1533.
Dr. Liz (27:10):
Lisa L-I-S-A, viviano V-I-V-I-A-N-O.
V as in Victor V-I-V-I-A-N-O.
All right, and that will be in the show
notes and on my website if you want to
contact Lisa.
So thank you so much for joining me today
and sharing your wisdom and your journey.
Lisa Viviano (27:25):
Oh, thank you.
It was my pleasure and I hope that this
helps people Me too.
Hi, lisa, welcome to the Hypnotize Me
podcast.
Hi H, dr Liz, thanks for having me.
was very excited to have you on because I
think you're going to make a difference in
a huge amount of women's lives.
Because this episode is focused on women, I
mean, obviously someone could listen for
(00:21):
their girlfriend or wife or partner,
whoever.
I mean, obviously someone could listen for
their girlfriend or wife or partner,
whoever, but, but probably mostly women are
going to be listening to this because it's
about bladder leakage.
Lisa Viviano (00:31):
Yes.
Dr. Liz (00:31):
Yes.
Lisa Viviano (00:32):
Yeah, A really big.
I think it's can be a secret for some of us
because it can be embarrassing.
Dr. Liz (00:39):
Yeah, absolutely, yes, yes.
So let's talk about how we met and then how
you started doing this work and tell people
what kind of effects it has and all that
good stuff.
We're going to get to all of that.
Lisa Viviano (00:53):
Okay, great.
So yeah, I met you in Orlando at a hypnosis
conference, the ICBCH hypnosis conference.
It was my first conference and we was it.
It was my first.
Dr. Liz (01:09):
Oh, I didn't know that, okay.
Lisa Viviano (01:11):
Yeah, yeah.
And we were at a table and I think one of
us invited you to sit with us or you said
can I sit here?
Because a lot of people didn't know each
other and we just got talking about how we
got into hypnosis, what brought us to
become hypnotherapists, consulting
(01:34):
hypnotists, that type of thing.
And I was very impressed when I met you
that with your vast background and
knowledge and then just your belief and the
knowing of the power of our subconscious
mind and how we can really change it pretty
(01:55):
easily.
So then I think what occurred was that I
started sharing my story of how I got into
hypnosis.
So my quick background is I started out in
the dental field and then I eventually
progressed to being a teacher of dental
(02:16):
assisting in the career in tech high school
and then, when I had some life changes, I
decided that I wanted to do something that
could help people and as well, be kind of
flexible with my schedule and location and
stuff like that.
(02:37):
So I had suffered with incontinence for a
while, suffered with incontinence for a
while.
I believe when I gave birth to my son it
(02:58):
kind of started where it sort of felt like
I had a weak bladder and then I.
It just got worse.
Uh, especially when emotions arise in my
life stresses and different life changes
came up, such as divorce, such as death, so
anything that made me nervous.
So what happened was I was seeking all
(03:19):
different therapies for it and I ended up
with my chiropractor and I mentioned to her,
like you know, I'm struggling with this and
she said why don't you try hypnosis?
And she gave me a card of a gentleman who
did hypnosis.
I never thought of hypnosis, never even
experienced anything around hypnosis.
(03:41):
So I I went, I trusted her advice and went
to this man's home and, like part of me was
a little nervous about that, but uh, had
you ever had hypnosis before that?
Dr. Liz (03:55):
Never never, didn't know anything about it.
Lisa Viviano (03:58):
Didn't know anything about it.
I mean, maybe I saw a little bit of stage
hypnosis, but I don't even think that was
live.
That was like on TV or something.
I just was never present to experiencing it.
So I went to his home and it was just a
really great process and the way my bladder
(04:22):
control worked for me, or lack thereof, was
kind of like little strange triggers.
So, I would pull up to the house after work
and as I turn the doorknob to go into my
house, I feel this urge to just go and I'd
(04:42):
have to race into the bathroom like, not
even greet the dog, just like race into the
bathroom.
And when I got home from hypnosis that
didn't happen.
It was.
It was the cure.
I was blown away.
That one session in my mind cured me, but
(05:04):
then I was was a bad client because I
didn't follow through with the homework.
I didn't do much of what he had advised me
to do to keep it going and looking back, I
think, wow, even though I didn't do much, I
was pretty good for a good month or so.
(05:28):
None of those triggers.
That's wow, I'm great.
And prior to that it was really, really
rough.
It was, it was really altering to my life.
Dr. Liz (05:40):
I mean, at that point, before you went,
were you like wearing pads, were you yeah?
Lisa Viviano (05:46):
I was not willing to get too heavy into
like big pads but I would wear like panty
liners.
Dr. Liz (05:54):
Okay.
Lisa Viviano (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to recall because
this story kind of shifts, because then I
got back into it worse.
Dr. Liz (06:05):
Okay, let's hear the worst then.
Lisa Viviano (06:08):
Yeah.
So then I life got so crazy, so busy and I
slowly slipped back into struggling.
And and then I recall I had a extra set of
panties in my drawer at work and I would
(06:28):
wear scrubs to teach.
So I would have a pair of scrubs there in
my car too, like it was out of control,
really bad, trying to limit how much I'm
eating stuff like that.
And I know my triggers were when stress
would come up, you know, like I had a
(06:48):
meeting or something.
Then I would just feel like, oh, you know,
losing it.
Um, so then I forgot, and that was about
four years in between.
Wow I forgot that, what I had done to cure
it.
So then I started on this whole cycle.
(07:10):
I went to a pelvic floor specialist.
I was doing a million Kegel exercises.
I had the vaginal weights oh yeah Working
with them.
I was just doing everything possible.
And so Then I kind of tapped into my divine
(07:32):
source and I said guide me, to help me get,
like, solve this problem.
And then it came to me you did hypnosis
four years ago, like don't you even
remember.
So then I called him back and this time I
(07:53):
went for more sessions, because that was
only one session.
I went for like four sessions.
I followed through, was really great with
it, really consistent, and learned how to
do it myself self-hypnosis, and that really
helped me.
(08:14):
So since then I can say I'm about 90% cured.
Wow, if something really massive is going
on, like really a crisis, a trauma, I can
say I might have a little problem.
Okay, then I have to just take a step back
(08:36):
and reflect on that and do my practice.
Dr. Liz (08:39):
Okay, so what was the home practice that he
gave you?
Lisa Viviano (08:45):
Basically it was, as you're familiar with
self-hypnosis, really tapping into your
imagination, which to me hypnosis is a lot
of manifestation, meditation, as one of my
clients says, on steroids.
So really tapping in.
(09:06):
And with other things that have come up in
my life, I'm just constantly being reminded
of how much I have to tap into my feelings
around it and really see and imagine.
So one of those examples is I had Achilles
(09:28):
heel trouble and it was.
It was awful.
I couldn't go up and down steps easily.
I couldn't walk real good, like it just
hurt.
Couldn't walk the dog, it just hurt a lot.
Dr. Liz (09:41):
I had it recently due to um, I had to take
around a Cipro, which is an antibiotic
which caused Achilles heel tendonitis.
Lisa Viviano (09:52):
I would never even know that, oh my gosh.
I wonder if I was taking an antibiotic then
that's interesting.
Dr. Liz (10:00):
It's really painful.
It is you feel like you can't walk.
I know I can't walk.
Lisa Viviano (10:08):
I love to walk.
Dr. Liz (10:09):
Yeah, yeah Great.
Lisa Viviano (10:11):
I love to walk my dog and with my husband
and all.
So the saving grace was I could bicycle.
That wouldn't hurt me.
So I was going to physical therapy and it
was kind of like helping somewhat.
And I'm doing my own self-hypnosis around
it and I'm just getting really frustrated
(10:33):
because I'm not seeing the results I want.
And then I realized you're not imagining it,
All you're doing is going through your
words and just like a robot.
So then I started imagining myself flying
up and down the steps walking the dog.
(10:53):
Telling my husband or my friend like, yeah,
I can go for a walk and just feeling like
how good that's going to feel Took about
four days.
I haven't had the pain since.
Once in a while I'll feel a little tinge
and I say to myself this will pass and it's
not eventful.
Fantastic, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(11:16):
So that's really good.
And then around the incontinence, like I
was invited this was around the time I was
divorcing.
I had so much going on.
That was really rough in life Starting a
new career, my mom had passed away, my dad
(11:37):
had a stroke, I was divorcing, hurricane
Sandy, everything all at once.
And I was invited to a bar mitzvah in
Nashville, like my best friend's son, and I
said that I would take her mother, who was
in her 80s, and we went to the Philly
(12:00):
airport.
You made our way.
I visited probably every restroom and this
80 year old never went until she arrived to
her daughter's house.
Year old never went until she arrived to
her daughter's house.
Wow.
And so that was another thing.
I was like, yeah, something has to change.
(12:21):
Yeah, this isn't right.
So, uh, that was for the second round.
Like then I I knew you know I gotta do
something.
But it was funny how I completely forgot
what cured it.
Dr. Liz (12:32):
Yeah, and then you remembered yes, yeah.
So that experience did it lead you to seek
training in hypnosis?
Is that how, eventually, you became a
hypnosis consultant?
Lisa Viviano (12:49):
Yes, eventually I was in transition.
My husband and I wanted to make some
changes.
He was thinking of downscaling what he did
and we wanted to just make changes and not
this was so helpful for me and learn about
it.
So then I got my training and that was in
(13:20):
2020.
So perfect timing around that, okay,
because it was a virtual training and just
did that, and it's been wonderful since
then.
Life altering totally life altering yeah.
Dr. Liz (13:35):
Yeah, it's a wonderful, I think career way
avenue to help people.
It makes a huge difference in their lives,
so for me that creates a lot of meaning for
me.
Lisa Viviano (13:49):
Yes, yes, absolutely.
That's how.
That's exactly how I feel around it and and
I feel so blessed that it's it's easy to
deliver virtually.
It's easy to do in person.
(14:17):
Know how to do self-hypnosis and you've
experienced it.
Dr. Liz (14:22):
It applies to everything that can crop up
in your life yes, it can certainly help a
lot of things, like we're not going to
regrow an arm, but smaller stuff it can
certainly.
I mean some of the larger stuff too.
All kinds of gi problems, migraines,
headaches, um cancer.
There was a study that they had two groups
(14:45):
of women with breast cancer and the ones
who attended a hypnosis group lived 18
months longer on average.
So it yeah, it's incredible when you really
look at some of the medical research, cause
sometimes people think about it just for
like, stop smoking, lose weight.
You know things like that.
Those are life altering for sure.
(15:07):
Stop smoking or stop vaping.
I do a lot of stop vaping these days.
I mean that affects everything in
somebody's life, but it sort of feels like
small beans compared to some of the medical
things like cancer and burns and that type
of thing.
Really so well, my side of the story is
(15:29):
after that lunch, like I kept your contact
information.
I think you gave me a card.
I also had your email.
I think you had reached out to me about ADD
or something like that, and so I kept your
email because I was starting had reached
out to me about ADD or something like that,
and so I kept your email because I was
starting to have some leakage and my best
friend had like a ton, a ton.
She was wearing a full on pad to go for
(15:51):
like an hour walk or something and having
to change it too.
Yeah, during the walk.
Yeah, it's bad.
It wasn't too bad for me yet.
I mean, after my kids I couldn't jump on a
trampoline for the life of me.
you know, nothing like that.
But finally it got to the point where I was
out to dinner with my husband one night and
(16:14):
sneezed I think it's.
Oh no, I had a cough, that's what it was.
So before I sneeze I'd have to, like you
know, do my keg off right, Just to be sure.
But with a cough, forget it.
It was bad sometimes and I was thinking
should I wear a panty line or a pad or
something like that?
(16:34):
So I was out to dinner one night and I I
had a cough and felt like, oh my God, like
I just wet myself, Like I don't even have a
jacket to tie around my waist, but I would.
I would have like we used to do in middle
school when, like our, you know, our period
would come and you tie the jacket around
your waist and be like all humiliated, yeah.
(16:58):
And so after that incident, I reached out
to you and said, hey, can you do this for
me?
Cause I remembered that that's how you had
gotten into it, and it was incredibly
effective, incredibly Like it went to
almost zero for me, to the point where I
didn't really I don't think about it that
often anymore, Occasionally when I'm
(17:20):
sitting in a certain position which is sort
of like on the couch and relaxing and I
have to sneeze or cough.
It's like, oh, like occasionally a little
leakage, but hardly ever.
Even so, I just found it incredibly
effective and thought if more women knew
(17:42):
about this it could help them.
It could really change their lives, because
it really does impact our lives.
Lisa Viviano (17:49):
It does and yeah, you just have to navigate
like almost it's a fear thing, I think.
At least for me it was like because you're
scared, Are you going to have a problem and
then what are you going to do?
Or where is every bathroom when you're out?
Yes, If you go on a road trip, how many
(18:13):
miles till the rest stop?
And that's really unsettling.
It is Now with you.
Did you feel like it connected to any kind
of feeling inside you?
Dr. Liz (18:27):
I never identified like it's related to
stress, or it gets worse then, or it gets
worse.
I think I reached out before it got really
bad, like I thought it was bad at the time
until I heard like other people's stories
including yours I was like, oh mine's,
mine's not actually that bad.
So, yeah, let's do this now before
something like that happens.
(18:47):
Yeah.
Yeah, it was never like rushing to the
bathroom, nothing like that.
More those type of actions where I had to
like sneeze or cough or brace or something
like that.
Lisa Viviano (19:02):
Yeah.
Dr. Liz (19:03):
I'm trying to remember.
If it was, I mean, it had to be a little
more than that before.
I think it's really interesting.
Like after we have a problem, I sometimes
have difficulty remembering how bad it was
before.
Does that happen to you too?
Yes, yes, it does.
I think it was the volume for me, so it
(19:24):
wasn't even like frequency, it was just
more like that dinner I felt like whoa,
that's not a little leak, that's not like a
spot in my underwear that's going to dry,
that's like we have to leave the restaurant.
You know, yeah, yeah, we have to leave the
(19:47):
restaurant.
You know, and I don't know, with with um,
the second husband, it's like the only time
he's ever seen me use the restroom.
This may be TMI for some people is when I
was in the hospital and I had to after
surgery, and even then I thought about
asking the aid like no, he can't do this.
Like like you're gonna have to do it
because I don't.
I keep some things just private, I just
like exactly.
Lisa Viviano (20:08):
I don't want that whole like.
Dr. Liz (20:09):
I don't know.
Some people are way more open about that.
Yeah, so it's not like I could be like
honey, I wet myself.
We need to leave, like I didn't want to say
that.
Lisa Viviano (20:19):
You know, it's like yeah, yeah, I mean, I
eventually did tell him.
Dr. Liz (20:23):
but you know, it was that point where I
reached out for help from you.
Yeah, and I actually enjoyed the homework.
The phrase I came up with.
It modifies some in my mind, but I think
the original one was I am dry and
comfortable and fully in control.
I am dry and comfortable and fully in
control and so sometimes I will say that
(20:46):
right before a sneeze or a cough.
I'll say it to myself and it works, it
works.
Lisa Viviano (20:54):
You have to say that pretty quick, I do.
I'm not saying it at the pace.
Dr. Liz (20:57):
I'm just more like I'm dry and comfortable
and fully in control Achoo or in between
right, yeah, that's really good.
It continues to help me.
Lisa Viviano (21:09):
Right, right, yeah, it's a nice reminder.
It is, it is.
It's a good reminder.
Mine's very simple, it's just I'm okay, I'm
okay.
Yeah, simple, it's just I'm okay.
(21:31):
Yeah, like I feel like mine is a
combination of how yours there's a term,
and I'm not able to recall it, about the
kind of incontinence, so yours is sort of
prompted by you know, like you said,
jumping on the trampoline or the cough or
sneeze.
Mine's like urgency With mine.
Definitely it's prompted with my emotions,
(21:52):
yes.
So that's why I think simply saying I'm
okay means like I'm okay, I'm safe.
Yes, means like I'm okay, I'm safe.
Yes, you know, there's no reason to be
scared with this emotion.
Or you know, in this moment I'm okay.
And taking that breath and kind of
anchoring in those positive thoughts and
(22:13):
those feelings.
Dr. Liz (22:14):
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, and I think that varies from person
to person, Like when you come up with a
custom phrase that's put into a hypnosis
that's specific to you.
I think that's really important for what's
going on with this type of problem bladder
leakage because it is influenced by so many
(22:35):
different things.
So sometimes people just try a download, a
free download, or when they even pay for on
the internet, that's not custom to them and
it misses that piece of like.
Oh no, like.
This varies by individual.
So what is it for you that's going to help
you tell the subconscious mind you don't
(22:58):
need to leak, yes, you have full control
basically yes, exactly what words are going
to resonate with you?
Lisa Viviano (23:07):
and and, as well, I'm interested to see if
you agree, dr Liz, that the words have to
be the right words.
Like I was taught, that if we say I will,
(23:29):
if we say I will, will, is kind of it's
loose, it's not like I am, yes, we're going
to.
You want to phrase it in the present yes, I
start the same thing, absolutely yeah, and
and also ends with the feeling that you
want the good feeling that you want, yes,
mine, mine is always um, it's easy for me
to have control and I feel calm.
(23:52):
Yes, right.
So having that feeling, because then our
subconscious it definitely wants to do what
we want it to do.
But the messages kind of get mixed
sometimes and then I think it can become
habitual, almost.
(24:12):
So this is that retraining, you know.
So it works out really well, giving us that
strength and just that proof around it that
it's going to work and the confidence that
you get from that, yes, agreed, and yeah.
Dr. Liz (24:31):
it is interesting because, as I began to
read more about it, it's like you're not
supposed to start wearing pads or panty
liners or have changes of clothes, because
it does teach your body like, oh, it's okay,
it's okay to go now.
It's like, oh, that's the last thing you
want.
You know Exactly, yes, but of course.
(24:54):
I think, we all do that when we're trying
to figure out the solution before we really
know, like, what to do.
We obviously don't want to walk around in a
wet pair of panties or scrubs, right?
Lisa Viviano (25:07):
Right, right, exactly, yeah, yeah, it
definitely gives us that message.
I even read maybe um tmi, but you shouldn't
pee in the shower, really, because that's
not the appropriate place to pee, and it's
like it's kind of, once again, you're
giving your body this mixed signal like
(25:29):
standing up like women.
Don't go standing up, Got it.
Dr. Liz (25:34):
Yeah, oh, really interesting.
I didn't come across that piece, so it
really is retraining ourselves, retraining
our subconscious mind and the conscious
mind like all right, pee in the toilet,
that's it, that only time.
Yes, we're the woods if we have to, exactly
if you're forced.
Lisa Viviano (25:55):
Yes, sometimes you just have to.
Dr. Liz (25:58):
Yeah, okay, interesting.
Well, we're coming to the end here, so can
you let people know how to contact you if
they'd like hypnosis for bladder leakage,
or we could?
What would the positive be?
Lisa Viviano (26:12):
hypnosis for um dry and comfortable yeah,
exactly um hypnosis for complete bladder
control and confidence there you go.
Dr. Liz (26:25):
hypnosis for complete bladder control and
confidence.
Okay, we've got the title of the episode
now.
Lisa Viviano (26:37):
That sounds good.
Yeah, how can they reach you?
Okay, so my website is actually my first
and last name, lisaviviano-chcom,
(26:59):
lisaviviano-chcom, and my email is
chlisaviviano at gmailcom and you can
always text or call me at 267-808-1533.
Dr. Liz (27:10):
Lisa L-I-S-A, viviano V-I-V-I-A-N-O.
V as in Victor V-I-V-I-A-N-O.
All right, and that will be in the show
notes and on my website if you want to
contact Lisa.
So thank you so much for joining me today
and sharing your wisdom and your journey.
Lisa Viviano (27:25):
Oh, thank you.
It was my pleasure and I hope that this
helps people Me too.
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