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June 24, 2025 62 mins

This week on In Totality, I’m joined by one of my best friends and someone I deeply admire - Jackie Hill Perry. This conversation is one of those that stays with you. We went deep into what it really means to surrender, not just in the big ways, but in the quiet, hidden corners of our hearts, letting God touch on the places we try to hide-- where pride, fear, or even self-protection still live.


We talk about the kind of hunger that leads to holiness — the kind that comes when we deny ourselves and draw near to God in intimacy, even through something as simple (but hard) as fasting. If you’re tired of glossing over your heart and ready to let God examine every hidden corner, this conversation is for you!

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