September 25, 2025 • 28 mins
In this moving episode of For Mannerless Women, Catherine, the first Kenyan woman to lead a yoga teacher training in Africa, shares her extraordinary journey of healing and transformation. Born and raised in Kariobangi, Catherine discovered yoga by accident, but it soon became the tool that helped her navigate the challenges of her upbringing, heal generational wounds, and support her mother through recovery from alcoholism. You will hear how:
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to for Manneralist Women. I'm your host adele On Jangle,
and this is a space committed to naturing a new
generation of shame free women who are ready to meet
their best selves. In this episode, we're going to explore
yoga and how it can help you heal your mind,
body and spirit. Helping us do this is Catherine, who's
the first Kenyon to lead a yoga teacher training in Africa.
(00:34):
Thank you so much for making time to come and
be with us one for Manderalist Women.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You're well, yeah, yeah, I'm happy to be here, and
thank you for the inverts.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And it's so good to catch up since the last
time we met, which was you did our first legally
culest event ever which was like a yoga event for
women and we had so much fun. So you always
have time for us, which is great.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He doesn't do anything to do with you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah and you Yeah, I'm in So this is something
I want more people to know because your story is
so incredibly powerful as to how you and yoga found
each other. When was that and how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
By accident?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'll say, like most people find yoga, yoga found me.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, So my story My background is I was born
in Caribanka, North and raised by a single mom. And
after high school, as many youths around the slums, I
was likely to even go to high school then. So
when I finished high school, there was nothing for me
to do. There's no way I was going to go
(01:42):
through college or anything like that. First of all, I
had a single mom who was an alcoholic, and I
had like four other siblings, so there was no way
I was going to go to college. Was like, what
do I do with my life now I'm out? I
want to end up like married yet because you know
I'm eighty. Yeah, I don't want to end up like
everybody around me. What can I do? Then my male
(02:06):
friends were doing acrobatics, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Let's go, you know, let's go exercise. You can just
exercise with us.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And that's how I found myself practicing to be a
professional acrobat. Oh wow, past eighteen years, like I've never
been physical nothing, and then in like two months, I'm
performing even acrobat Like.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
My life from then was like Marazon move move move,
movement movements. And that was like in two thousand and
ends of two thousand and five, beginning of two thousand
and six, and then when I started doing acrobatics, my
mom went like completely into drinking mood. Like I was
(02:48):
left with my sisters to take care of, and so
I started supporting my siblings. I started supporting my mom
in cariuguang yeah, and I'm supporting myself working. Then in
two thousand and nine, when I was still an acrobat,
I met this lady called her Page Helen Soon I
think that was in two thousand and seven. I met
(03:09):
Paige and she introduced me to yoga and she she's
like a yeah from New York and American in Kenya
teaching yoga. And also that was by accident. I remember
we had posts virulent selection.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, selection violence yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So I was performing with Sarah caa citrast. We had
this show called Amani Sakas and we could do going
to the camps and just like to send people who
are displaced by the war in the camps. And Page
joined the circus and I was like, ah, what's she
going to perform? What's going to perform? She an entertainer,
what is she doing? And she was like, no, I'm
a yoga teacher, so as an acrobat, I'm entertaining so
(03:51):
all these people in these camps are sitting down watching
me perform. But then when you started doing yoga, every
it was, you know, involved. We were all standing. I
don't know whether you saw the camps, but they were
like tent all around and there was a big empty
space at the center. So everybody, including us, including people
(04:12):
in the camp, including kids, We're all standing in one
big circle doing like a yoga poses.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
And I was like, hmm, what is this day like
when we came into the camp because the of the world,
it was so much tension because these people don't know
who is coming into the camp.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, they don't know, Like how can they trust They
can't trust us.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And then by the time we're finishing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like performing and now we're doing yoga, we're touching hands.
They don't yeah anymore, like we're touching hands on mountain poles.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I was like, whatever this thing is?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I want to know more, but I didn't even ask
whatever yeah, yeah, like but I like it. And I
remember also going like I think this is something I
can do for my community, because I know since I
was a kid, I was like, I'm never going to,
you know, abandon my community. In carry BANGI I'm going
to do something for them, but I don't know what.
(05:03):
You know, it's something you know at the back of it.
But when I was sitting there watching page teacher, I
was like, I think I can do this.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So when she came back in two thousand and nine
and she came back to the Sarah Kassai and she
was like, I have this teacher training. Are you get
to training? I want you to apply with your yoga group,
with the acrobatic group, and I have a bunch of
other people who are coming. Do you want to do
I was like, yes, yeah, I'm signing up. So I
signed up for my first yoga to training and we
(05:33):
did the training in Dnay.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What does the yoga teacher training look like? It's because
I think many people when they look at yoga, they're like,
it doesn't seem strenuous, it doesn't seem hard, but it is.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So what does the training look like?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So imagine like for you to be able to teach yogirl,
you need to two hundred hours minimum of the training.
So the training actually is two hundred hours. So every
day you're doing a yoga session. So when people hear yoga,
the only thing about the postures, yeah, or the asthma.
But we have meditation, we have mindfulness, we have we
(06:12):
have mindfulness and meditation are two different things, but most
people do mindfulness. Yeah, but then it's meditation.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And then we have like bread work. We call it pranayama.
There's so much things we do. And then we have
something we call inquiry. That's when you're doing personal work.
You're asking yourself difficult questions like what's holding you back?
Why are you the way you are?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And for me that was the most powerful work because
I was like a very defensive person. If you grew
up in the slams, you're always on the difference mode
because you don't know when your door will be knocklear
and you don't know when the next shootout is coming out.
You don't know when your neighbor is going to steal
you know, whatever small you have, so you're always ready
(06:56):
to fight. And from all there comes a lot of frustration,
a lot of violence. Like I was a very violent person.
I was always angry. I was always mad, but I
didn't know it was coming from. So by doing the
inquiry work, they asking the difficult questions like why do
you react the way you react. Yeah, it was so
helpful for me. Like I came out of that CHET
(07:18):
training completely transformed, not just physically but with even life.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And like when you ask yourself, since you were in
that moment, when you ask yourself, like why am I
like this? What are some of the emotions that came
up with you? Just assuming that that must have been
an intense emotional session, right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, so so much sadness, first of all, and when
you come to like when you especially if you're doing
first classes, first yoga classes, which like my second yoga
class was in yoga chat training, a lot of emotions
comes up, a lot of sadness, those tears like these
so many tears, and also some relief you just knowing that,
(08:05):
oh my god, I don't have to keep reacting. I
don't have to fight with everybody. Nobody's here to fight me.
Some people just really when they ask you how are
you doing the day to know how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I was having a sense of acceptance because with all
that anger, without those it comes with denial and also
comes with blame.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I had so much.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I didn't realize how much I was blaming the.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Government for why are we poor.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Why don't we have enough food? Where do we have
running water? Why is my mom like this?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Why is she drinking?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Does she have kids? Like?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Why? Why are this blame?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But once I accepted who I was and where I
came from, then there's so much room for growth.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, and it's interesting because I have started practicing yoga
every morning this year. Yeah, but I was still very
ignorant in terms of how yoga is like mind, body spirits.
It's not just body and poses and like the stretching
(09:14):
and the physicalness of it all.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So it's so nice to get that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
From your story that there's a way it can heal you,
even mind spirits and not just body.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So you leave this, you linve Dyanna.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Do you immediately start when I when I was in Janny,
I knew exactly who was going to be my first client. Okay,
my mom, she is not going to argue with me.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm paying her rent. You know, I'm hustling trying to
like perform all these other manual work. Another thing I
forgot to tell you, I was also doing garbage collection
in Carribangi because what happens is the city unsel doesn't
go apartment of a plot to take the garbage, you
(10:06):
have to bring the garbage to the road. So my
work with the other youths in Caribban used to go
into the apartment and collect the garbage and bring it
to the to the road for people. So I was
also making some money collecting garbage. So I was literally
literally supporting my mom realancially with her kids.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So when I go in to back home, I was
like so excited. Also, people are like, what happened to you? Yeah, yeah,
it's like yoga.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
We finished on a Sunday. I went to the community hall.
We have community halls everywhere, which I free booked as
my sport. You have to book a sport because I
have all other groups happening. And I remember it was
on a Tuesday, so Sunday was my last day.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Of the training. On Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I was like, mom to put an acohole, Yeah, Sunday,
letting my bridge to all the women.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
But she opened to it or where she's still?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah she was.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
She was, I think since I had already shocked her
with the robotics, she was not shocked with yoga. But no,
like she was like whatever you say, but she came,
she came, and she came with her friends, all the
people we did yoga with from cariban It came to
the classes to a full class. At the beginning, I
taught my first yuga class.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
To my mom and her friends.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
How was that to us?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
How did they they feel? Even afterwards?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think they liked it because they kept coming for
the next three years. Yeah, I was teaching CARIBANKI for
three years, had stop every Tuesday. And during all that
time my mom Mom was still drinking. Yeah, but you
know the different now was like on Tuesday there was
not drinking because she had class. And after you go
(11:53):
to yoga class, it doesn't matter what time.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You feel so good.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
There's no way you're going to get into like a
Awanian spirit or a club or wherever you want to
go home, eat clear, chaken up, no do something. And
now she had friends who are not alcoholic. Because now
the yoga class is grown, we have other women coming.
I started having women with like a cancer because the
(12:16):
doctor said go do something. So now I had to
research yoga for cancer. You know, like you have all
these people coming to you to class with all this
other stuff that you didn't do in your chair training.
So I had to do additional training. So I did
two more training, but I did them in Mexico because
no one was teaching tcher trainings in Kenya. Actually in
(12:37):
Africa nothing, Yeah, there was nothing in two thousand and
nine and ten. Yeah, and then in two thosey and
twelve after I did kind of like the degree or
the Masters of Yoga. Yeah, we did a cheat training
in Kenya into twenty thirteen. It was my first chet
training that I learned. And is that what gave you
(12:59):
the time of the first Kenyan woman to lead? That
you get training in Africa, which.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Is incredible, and imagine that you stumbled on like you
were that day, you acro basics with the guys and
you're happy and then this yoga thing found you. Yeah yeah,
And so how did how did yoga impact your mom?
Even during the three years of the Tuesday classes?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, so we started actually between those three years I
was teaching in Caribangi, we did move to another class,
so that Thursday and Tuesday, Tuesday and Thursday. And then
she was still drinking, but now it's more limited because
you don't just stop drinking.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And then.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
She got pregnant.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wasn't happy because I was like you.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
There's another mouth for me.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I was been happy to talk to her for like
a months.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, but then when she got pregnant, she had no
option but to stop drinking. And then she started doing
prenat to yoga. The best thing about that, I went
back to school to school, yoga school and learned how
to teach pre yoga because now I don't know, we
do power yoga. It's all like power, but now these
(14:22):
are pregnant, all this pregnant ladies. And then a premato
yoga class was born in Carabangi.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Wow. Yeah, Like it's like my mom is my yoga experiment.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's like, what does she need?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, that's research here.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So when she she wasn't drinking, we're still in Caroubangi
and I now have my own arm room with my girlfriends.
We are co sharing the space. She has her space
with my siblings. And once she had the baby and
my sister was three months, I was like, so now
(15:01):
my my second born sister, like the sister who's following,
I'm the first bone. Our second sister now was already
in yoga. So I enrolled her into yoga. I enrolled
my cousin who's also staying with me. Yeah, and so,
but then those are two incomes in the house. We're like, no,
if we have our mom here, relapsing is easy because
now I'm no longer teaching career bangy. So remember I
(15:22):
did meet tacher training, I trained some people someone there,
so somebody took over the classes. Yeah, and I'm no
longer like spending so much time in career bangy and
rolling into my more like leading to the training, leading workshops,
mentoring young yoga teachers. I was like, she can relapse in. Yeah,
and you know she's still around all these alcohols, she's
(15:44):
still around her old friends. So we moved her to Murana.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh wow, and how is mom now?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
She's a church lady.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You know, she's an il Dan church. She met us,
you she her cous in her little chamber.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And did she still practicing yoga?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Not she's not, but it's not because she can't.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
But there's no yoga teachers in Morga. Okay, I haven't
put in airfort in having yoga teachers in Murana, which
should be my next project.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I was gonna say that's your next time. Because everything
surrounding your mom, You're like.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Ah, okay, let me missearch and how to stop that
you own. But that's really powerful, and I guess it
speaks to like how healing yoga can be.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes right, It's not only you're going in to.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Kind of have a physical activity, but it's so much more.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah right. Because when we were doing the inquiry work
I was talking about, like the transferformational work in the
teacher training. One of the work was who do you resent?
And goes my person was like my mom. I wasn't
like not it resident. I was like, I hit her,
like I hate my mom. I resent my mom. And
when we did the work on resentment, the last exercise
(17:06):
was asking for forgiveness, not for holding the resentment, not
asking for forgiveness for not asking them like I can
you forgive me for hating you? It's not for holding
the resentment against them. And I think once I did that,
my relationship with my mom was better. That's why I
was able to even teach my classes with my mom
(17:28):
in the class because it was you know, I felt
like she forgive me for resenting her, and I was
able to let go that resentment. I was able to
have a whole new relationship with my mom because I
don't know what was happening to her. I don't know
what she was drinking. I don't know what she had
to go through to be who she is. Because she
was a good mom, Like my mom was a good mom,
(17:48):
Like look at me, yeah, yeah, yeah about from the drinking,
you know, Like I started acknowledging, like she put us
to school, five kids, my sister. I'm putting my sisters
to school, so he but all the other four she
did put her them through school. She was a good mom.
(18:09):
I started acknowledging all the good things that she did,
and that's how I was able to, you know, to
have a whole new relationship with her. And with that,
now I can have relationship with anyone.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You know, like you see the human and there.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, there's no need to resent people.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And that is so powerful because when I used to
think of your story, I would only see yoga helping
your mom navigate.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Herself out of alcohol.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But I think what it did is like your mother
daughter relationship was healed, yep, which is incredible. Sometimes it's
so it's almost easier and more comfortable to resent and
to hate someone because it means I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Have to.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Face the harder or heavier feelings of you hurt me
or because you know what I mean, like it's easier
for me just say I hate you or I'm angry
at you, And so going that extra MILEWN healing is
what's really transformative. And I just that is so incredible
when we talk about trauma or like even feelings like resentment, Right,
(19:19):
did you feel like you were holding trauma physically in
your body? And did yoga help you?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Kind of?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
One hundred percent yoga movements what there is when I
was able to even recognize what I was holding. You
know that just being able to move my body. We
say a lot and when we were talking with you,
there's so much tension or so much emotions we hold
in our hips. And yeah, because my my most of
(19:51):
my crying that I did in that train and anytime
I cry in yoga, I mean I hip open up
post like America in house fision or like any people
open up this. So yeah, there was so much like
when you move your body, there's so much tension you're releasing.
Actually you cannot do their inquiry work doing teacher training
(20:12):
without first doing the actual physical practice. Wow, yeah, because
then you're holding so much tension in our bodies and
our joe in our shoulders and as women in our hips. Yeah,
so when you let go all that physically, you're able
to open up mentally.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
What was the feeling, like I've gotten It wasn't yoga,
but it was. It's a type of a massage. I
can't remember the name. And the lady was doing it
and so much like she's listening to your body because
she's like following things. And when she got to my
lower back, for some reason, I just kind of felt
(20:52):
tears and it was just like, what's there? I came
homicage all and like I think afterwards she told me
she she could feel I'm tired emotionally, right, yeah, and
she's a stranger to me. And for sure during in
that season, I was carrying so many emotions and just
(21:15):
trying to like weed through them. What was the sensation
for you?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Because you know, yeah, it's in.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The body, doesn't matter what you're going through, even trauma,
like you said, trauma. When I do I also teach
a yoga for mental health. When we do yoga for
mental health, like it's what trauma are you holding in
your body? It's it's felt like you know, you have
notts tired out and somebody else. You've been like in
a tight space where you can't move.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And all of a sudden there's a door open, you.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Know, and you have the freedom to move around or
all those knots are untied and you're like straight line,
you can jiggle, you can move.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, that's how it feels in the body.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and I won't lie. First few classes are head Yeah,
because you know your your forcing your body to release,
You're forcing your body to let go, You're forcing your
mind to really be open to you.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You're the problem. You know, You're the one holding.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
On, not other people, so they're not as good. Most
people do one to three classes and never come back. Yeah,
I'll say, do ten classes, then tell me how you're feeling.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You're feeling about yoga goes.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
By the fifth class, you know you already know exactly
what's happening. Your body is giving you information that you
really need.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I can imagine someone signs up and because it's the
way a lot of us on the other side receive
yoga is it's like it's what you do for exercise, right, Yeah,
you can imagine coming with that and then like you're
and you're just like, WHOA, what is happening here? But
(22:48):
that's so important because I think they say, like the
body keeps score, so it will remain there until you
help your body like process it out. So for a
woman watching this who wants to tap into yoga to
help her viacimsile, mind, body, spirits, where is a good
place to start.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'll say, friend a yoga teacher, especially if you're starting,
Friend that yoga teacher. I know maybe seventy percent of
yoga teachers in KA, so I can direct to you.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And she's a yoga teacher herself, and I'm a yoga
teacher myself.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But find out yoga teacher, find out your ga studio
next to you. Most some people do YouTube, But I say,
if your beginner really find a physical yoga class, do this.
There's a lot of yoga studios around now. If you
look up, let me know if you need that yoga teacher,
and I'll be happily to either come if I'm available
or really connected with the teacher. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And like enclosing, what is one thing in your life
that you feel yoga gifted you?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Compassion? I don't even know how to explain it's just
compassion towards other people, Like just seeing people who is
who they are versus what they have done or how
I think they are. Like compassion and also the ability
to just give back, you know, be be like a
role model. But I forgot to tell you because that's
what I was missing when I was growing up. There
(24:18):
was no positive role models. They were but they were
like who have the biggest guy, who can rob the
biggest you know, who can drink the most album? You
don't know having the positive role models in my when
I was growing up, And that's what I'm giving to
other girls is just make sure like you don't have
to be thiss with this.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
There's an alternative.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
There's an alternative, you know, because I was one of
the kids when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Other parent was like.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I don't want to see you with Catrie. And then
I'm I'm not the girl who are like take my daughter,
you know, can you talk to them and talk to
my daughter? It's like, yeah, it's just that that's what
your girl given me access to is being a leader
and also like a role model to other girls.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And you who are helping other girls to your angio.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, I have a small it's very young non
profit maybe two years now, almost two years now called
Yoga Lina. I'm teaching two classes a week for young girls,
so I work a lot with teenagers and with teenagers.
There's a huge, huge problem with teenager pregnancies. So I'm
(25:28):
I am working with teenagers. And when I see teenagers,
they're both boys and girls girls because they are getting
each other pregnant. In Carrio Bank, it's not usually like
older men taking a divorces. They're like teenagers on teenager pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, So we work a.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Lot on like really preventing our teenager pregnancies and we
use yoga to do that. And then young mothers. Then
I work with young mothers too, especially on issues affecting
young mothers.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And isn't it crazy, like it's full circle? Yeah, because
you came from your first teacher training and was like
my mom is my first Yeah, and now you're helping mothers.
And I think sometimes when we talk of issues even
around like teenage pregnancies, you never hear yoga brought up.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But it's a tool. It's a totally because you know
what's also with yoga is when you go to a
yoga class and you feel so good. You love your body.
You know, you start loving yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You start loving your body.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It doesn't matter what happened or what happened with your body,
because a lot of trauma comes from no physical either
physical beating or sexual harassment, sexual assholes. But you start
loving your body, so there's no you're going to put
anything harmful in your body. That means with teenagers, they're
not going to have, you know, irresponsible sex because they're
really loving their body. And they have these other women
(26:50):
who they can look up to and go like, yeah,
I can finish school, Yeah I grew up from bang
you By, I can go to university, Yeah I can
do something with my life.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
There's all these other parison they can use to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
And on top of that, with my non profit, every
six months I give pads, so in December, in June,
so coming up in June, we give bads to my
yoga students that last them for like a six months.
That's why we do it every six months.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
This is incredible. Oh my god, thank you for first
congratulations for all the work that you're doing and what
you've been able to do in terms of impact with
your work and yoga. Who would have thought.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Exactly if fifteen years ago you told me you like,
are you okay?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You didn't even like yoga?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And now see what you've been able to do with yoga?
And so thank you so much for the work that
you do and for coming on the show. And if
you check out the description, you will find contacts and
links to be able to reach out to Katherine in
case you wants to book a yoga class, which I
think you should, or if you want to support her nonprofits,
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you should definitely go for it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Thank you for watching this.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Episode and make sure you like share it with all
the manalists and almost manalists women in your lives. So
scare to a channel and make sure
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You're here next week for a brand new epsite
Welcome to for Manneralist Women. I'm your host adele On Jangle,
and this is a space committed to naturing a new
generation of shame free women who are ready to meet
their best selves. In this episode, we're going to explore
yoga and how it can help you heal your mind,
body and spirit. Helping us do this is Catherine, who's
the first Kenyon to lead a yoga teacher training in Africa.
(00:34):
Thank you so much for making time to come and
be with us one for Manderalist Women.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You're well, yeah, yeah, I'm happy to be here, and
thank you for the inverts.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And it's so good to catch up since the last
time we met, which was you did our first legally
culest event ever which was like a yoga event for
women and we had so much fun. So you always
have time for us, which is great.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He doesn't do anything to do with you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah and you Yeah, I'm in So this is something
I want more people to know because your story is
so incredibly powerful as to how you and yoga found
each other. When was that and how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
By accident?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'll say, like most people find yoga, yoga found me.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, So my story My background is I was born
in Caribanka, North and raised by a single mom. And
after high school, as many youths around the slums, I
was likely to even go to high school then. So
when I finished high school, there was nothing for me
to do. There's no way I was going to go
(01:42):
through college or anything like that. First of all, I
had a single mom who was an alcoholic, and I
had like four other siblings, so there was no way
I was going to go to college. Was like, what
do I do with my life now I'm out? I
want to end up like married yet because you know
I'm eighty. Yeah, I don't want to end up like
everybody around me. What can I do? Then my male
(02:06):
friends were doing acrobatics, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Let's go, you know, let's go exercise. You can just
exercise with us.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And that's how I found myself practicing to be a
professional acrobat. Oh wow, past eighteen years, like I've never
been physical nothing, and then in like two months, I'm
performing even acrobat Like.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
My life from then was like Marazon move move move,
movement movements. And that was like in two thousand and
ends of two thousand and five, beginning of two thousand
and six, and then when I started doing acrobatics, my
mom went like completely into drinking mood. Like I was
(02:48):
left with my sisters to take care of, and so
I started supporting my siblings. I started supporting my mom
in cariuguang yeah, and I'm supporting myself working. Then in
two thousand and nine, when I was still an acrobat,
I met this lady called her Page Helen Soon I
think that was in two thousand and seven. I met
(03:09):
Paige and she introduced me to yoga and she she's
like a yeah from New York and American in Kenya
teaching yoga. And also that was by accident. I remember
we had posts virulent selection.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, selection violence yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So I was performing with Sarah caa citrast. We had
this show called Amani Sakas and we could do going
to the camps and just like to send people who
are displaced by the war in the camps. And Page
joined the circus and I was like, ah, what's she
going to perform? What's going to perform? She an entertainer,
what is she doing? And she was like, no, I'm
a yoga teacher, so as an acrobat, I'm entertaining so
(03:51):
all these people in these camps are sitting down watching
me perform. But then when you started doing yoga, every
it was, you know, involved. We were all standing. I
don't know whether you saw the camps, but they were
like tent all around and there was a big empty
space at the center. So everybody, including us, including people
(04:12):
in the camp, including kids, We're all standing in one
big circle doing like a yoga poses.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
And I was like, hmm, what is this day like
when we came into the camp because the of the world,
it was so much tension because these people don't know
who is coming into the camp.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, they don't know, Like how can they trust They
can't trust us.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And then by the time we're finishing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like performing and now we're doing yoga, we're touching hands.
They don't yeah anymore, like we're touching hands on mountain poles.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I was like, whatever this thing is?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I want to know more, but I didn't even ask
whatever yeah, yeah, like but I like it. And I
remember also going like I think this is something I
can do for my community, because I know since I
was a kid, I was like, I'm never going to,
you know, abandon my community. In carry BANGI I'm going
to do something for them, but I don't know what.
(05:03):
You know, it's something you know at the back of it.
But when I was sitting there watching page teacher, I
was like, I think I can do this.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So when she came back in two thousand and nine
and she came back to the Sarah Kassai and she
was like, I have this teacher training. Are you get
to training? I want you to apply with your yoga group,
with the acrobatic group, and I have a bunch of
other people who are coming. Do you want to do
I was like, yes, yeah, I'm signing up. So I
signed up for my first yoga to training and we
(05:33):
did the training in Dnay.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What does the yoga teacher training look like? It's because
I think many people when they look at yoga, they're like,
it doesn't seem strenuous, it doesn't seem hard, but it is.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So what does the training look like?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So imagine like for you to be able to teach yogirl,
you need to two hundred hours minimum of the training.
So the training actually is two hundred hours. So every
day you're doing a yoga session. So when people hear yoga,
the only thing about the postures, yeah, or the asthma.
But we have meditation, we have mindfulness, we have we
(06:12):
have mindfulness and meditation are two different things, but most
people do mindfulness. Yeah, but then it's meditation.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And then we have like bread work. We call it pranayama.
There's so much things we do. And then we have
something we call inquiry. That's when you're doing personal work.
You're asking yourself difficult questions like what's holding you back?
Why are you the way you are?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And for me that was the most powerful work because
I was like a very defensive person. If you grew
up in the slams, you're always on the difference mode
because you don't know when your door will be knocklear
and you don't know when the next shootout is coming out.
You don't know when your neighbor is going to steal
you know, whatever small you have, so you're always ready
(06:56):
to fight. And from all there comes a lot of frustration,
a lot of violence. Like I was a very violent person.
I was always angry. I was always mad, but I
didn't know it was coming from. So by doing the
inquiry work, they asking the difficult questions like why do
you react the way you react. Yeah, it was so
helpful for me. Like I came out of that CHET
(07:18):
training completely transformed, not just physically but with even life.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And like when you ask yourself, since you were in
that moment, when you ask yourself, like why am I
like this? What are some of the emotions that came
up with you? Just assuming that that must have been
an intense emotional session, right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, so so much sadness, first of all, and when
you come to like when you especially if you're doing
first classes, first yoga classes, which like my second yoga
class was in yoga chat training, a lot of emotions
comes up, a lot of sadness, those tears like these
so many tears, and also some relief you just knowing that,
(08:05):
oh my god, I don't have to keep reacting. I
don't have to fight with everybody. Nobody's here to fight me.
Some people just really when they ask you how are
you doing the day to know how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I was having a sense of acceptance because with all
that anger, without those it comes with denial and also
comes with blame.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I had so much.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I didn't realize how much I was blaming the.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Government for why are we poor.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Why don't we have enough food? Where do we have
running water? Why is my mom like this?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Why is she drinking?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Does she have kids? Like?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Why? Why are this blame?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But once I accepted who I was and where I
came from, then there's so much room for growth.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, and it's interesting because I have started practicing yoga
every morning this year. Yeah, but I was still very
ignorant in terms of how yoga is like mind, body spirits.
It's not just body and poses and like the stretching
(09:14):
and the physicalness of it all.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So it's so nice to get that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
From your story that there's a way it can heal you,
even mind spirits and not just body.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So you leave this, you linve Dyanna.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Do you immediately start when I when I was in Janny,
I knew exactly who was going to be my first client. Okay,
my mom, she is not going to argue with me.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm paying her rent. You know, I'm hustling trying to
like perform all these other manual work. Another thing I
forgot to tell you, I was also doing garbage collection
in Carribangi because what happens is the city unsel doesn't
go apartment of a plot to take the garbage, you
(10:06):
have to bring the garbage to the road. So my
work with the other youths in Caribban used to go
into the apartment and collect the garbage and bring it
to the to the road for people. So I was
also making some money collecting garbage. So I was literally
literally supporting my mom realancially with her kids.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So when I go in to back home, I was
like so excited. Also, people are like, what happened to you? Yeah, yeah,
it's like yoga.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
We finished on a Sunday. I went to the community hall.
We have community halls everywhere, which I free booked as
my sport. You have to book a sport because I
have all other groups happening. And I remember it was
on a Tuesday, so Sunday was my last day.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Of the training. On Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I was like, mom to put an acohole, Yeah, Sunday,
letting my bridge to all the women.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
But she opened to it or where she's still?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah she was.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
She was, I think since I had already shocked her
with the robotics, she was not shocked with yoga. But no,
like she was like whatever you say, but she came,
she came, and she came with her friends, all the
people we did yoga with from cariban It came to
the classes to a full class. At the beginning, I
taught my first yuga class.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
To my mom and her friends.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
How was that to us?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
How did they they feel? Even afterwards?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think they liked it because they kept coming for
the next three years. Yeah, I was teaching CARIBANKI for
three years, had stop every Tuesday. And during all that
time my mom Mom was still drinking. Yeah, but you
know the different now was like on Tuesday there was
not drinking because she had class. And after you go
(11:53):
to yoga class, it doesn't matter what time.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You feel so good.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
There's no way you're going to get into like a
Awanian spirit or a club or wherever you want to
go home, eat clear, chaken up, no do something. And
now she had friends who are not alcoholic. Because now
the yoga class is grown, we have other women coming.
I started having women with like a cancer because the
(12:16):
doctor said go do something. So now I had to
research yoga for cancer. You know, like you have all
these people coming to you to class with all this
other stuff that you didn't do in your chair training.
So I had to do additional training. So I did
two more training, but I did them in Mexico because
no one was teaching tcher trainings in Kenya. Actually in
(12:37):
Africa nothing, Yeah, there was nothing in two thousand and
nine and ten. Yeah, and then in two thosey and
twelve after I did kind of like the degree or
the Masters of Yoga. Yeah, we did a cheat training
in Kenya into twenty thirteen. It was my first chet
training that I learned. And is that what gave you
(12:59):
the time of the first Kenyan woman to lead? That
you get training in Africa, which.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Is incredible, and imagine that you stumbled on like you
were that day, you acro basics with the guys and
you're happy and then this yoga thing found you. Yeah yeah,
And so how did how did yoga impact your mom?
Even during the three years of the Tuesday classes?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, so we started actually between those three years I
was teaching in Caribangi, we did move to another class,
so that Thursday and Tuesday, Tuesday and Thursday. And then
she was still drinking, but now it's more limited because
you don't just stop drinking.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And then.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
She got pregnant.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wasn't happy because I was like you.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
There's another mouth for me.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I was been happy to talk to her for like
a months.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, but then when she got pregnant, she had no
option but to stop drinking. And then she started doing
prenat to yoga. The best thing about that, I went
back to school to school, yoga school and learned how
to teach pre yoga because now I don't know, we
do power yoga. It's all like power, but now these
(14:22):
are pregnant, all this pregnant ladies. And then a premato
yoga class was born in Carabangi.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Wow. Yeah, Like it's like my mom is my yoga experiment.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's like, what does she need?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, that's research here.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So when she she wasn't drinking, we're still in Caroubangi
and I now have my own arm room with my girlfriends.
We are co sharing the space. She has her space
with my siblings. And once she had the baby and
my sister was three months, I was like, so now
(15:01):
my my second born sister, like the sister who's following,
I'm the first bone. Our second sister now was already
in yoga. So I enrolled her into yoga. I enrolled
my cousin who's also staying with me. Yeah, and so,
but then those are two incomes in the house. We're like, no,
if we have our mom here, relapsing is easy because
now I'm no longer teaching career bangy. So remember I
(15:22):
did meet tacher training, I trained some people someone there,
so somebody took over the classes. Yeah, and I'm no
longer like spending so much time in career bangy and
rolling into my more like leading to the training, leading workshops,
mentoring young yoga teachers. I was like, she can relapse in. Yeah,
and you know she's still around all these alcohols, she's
(15:44):
still around her old friends. So we moved her to Murana.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh wow, and how is mom now?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
She's a church lady.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You know, she's an il Dan church. She met us,
you she her cous in her little chamber.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And did she still practicing yoga?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Not she's not, but it's not because she can't.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
But there's no yoga teachers in Morga. Okay, I haven't
put in airfort in having yoga teachers in Murana, which
should be my next project.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I was gonna say that's your next time. Because everything
surrounding your mom, You're like.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Ah, okay, let me missearch and how to stop that
you own. But that's really powerful, and I guess it
speaks to like how healing yoga can be.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes right, It's not only you're going in to.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Kind of have a physical activity, but it's so much more.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah right. Because when we were doing the inquiry work
I was talking about, like the transferformational work in the
teacher training. One of the work was who do you resent?
And goes my person was like my mom. I wasn't
like not it resident. I was like, I hit her,
like I hate my mom. I resent my mom. And
when we did the work on resentment, the last exercise
(17:06):
was asking for forgiveness, not for holding the resentment, not
asking for forgiveness for not asking them like I can
you forgive me for hating you? It's not for holding
the resentment against them. And I think once I did that,
my relationship with my mom was better. That's why I
was able to even teach my classes with my mom
(17:28):
in the class because it was you know, I felt
like she forgive me for resenting her, and I was
able to let go that resentment. I was able to
have a whole new relationship with my mom because I
don't know what was happening to her. I don't know
what she was drinking. I don't know what she had
to go through to be who she is. Because she
was a good mom, Like my mom was a good mom,
(17:48):
Like look at me, yeah, yeah, yeah about from the drinking,
you know, Like I started acknowledging, like she put us
to school, five kids, my sister. I'm putting my sisters
to school, so he but all the other four she
did put her them through school. She was a good mom.
(18:09):
I started acknowledging all the good things that she did,
and that's how I was able to, you know, to
have a whole new relationship with her. And with that,
now I can have relationship with anyone.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You know, like you see the human and there.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, there's no need to resent people.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And that is so powerful because when I used to
think of your story, I would only see yoga helping
your mom navigate.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Herself out of alcohol.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But I think what it did is like your mother
daughter relationship was healed, yep, which is incredible. Sometimes it's
so it's almost easier and more comfortable to resent and
to hate someone because it means I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Have to.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Face the harder or heavier feelings of you hurt me
or because you know what I mean, like it's easier
for me just say I hate you or I'm angry
at you, And so going that extra MILEWN healing is
what's really transformative. And I just that is so incredible
when we talk about trauma or like even feelings like resentment, Right,
(19:19):
did you feel like you were holding trauma physically in
your body? And did yoga help you?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Kind of?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
One hundred percent yoga movements what there is when I
was able to even recognize what I was holding. You
know that just being able to move my body. We
say a lot and when we were talking with you,
there's so much tension or so much emotions we hold
in our hips. And yeah, because my my most of
(19:51):
my crying that I did in that train and anytime
I cry in yoga, I mean I hip open up
post like America in house fision or like any people
open up this. So yeah, there was so much like
when you move your body, there's so much tension you're releasing.
Actually you cannot do their inquiry work doing teacher training
(20:12):
without first doing the actual physical practice. Wow, yeah, because
then you're holding so much tension in our bodies and
our joe in our shoulders and as women in our hips. Yeah,
so when you let go all that physically, you're able
to open up mentally.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
What was the feeling, like I've gotten It wasn't yoga,
but it was. It's a type of a massage. I
can't remember the name. And the lady was doing it
and so much like she's listening to your body because
she's like following things. And when she got to my
lower back, for some reason, I just kind of felt
(20:52):
tears and it was just like, what's there? I came
homicage all and like I think afterwards she told me
she she could feel I'm tired emotionally, right, yeah, and
she's a stranger to me. And for sure during in
that season, I was carrying so many emotions and just
(21:15):
trying to like weed through them. What was the sensation
for you?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Because you know, yeah, it's in.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The body, doesn't matter what you're going through, even trauma,
like you said, trauma. When I do I also teach
a yoga for mental health. When we do yoga for
mental health, like it's what trauma are you holding in
your body? It's it's felt like you know, you have
notts tired out and somebody else. You've been like in
a tight space where you can't move.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And all of a sudden there's a door open, you.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Know, and you have the freedom to move around or
all those knots are untied and you're like straight line,
you can jiggle, you can move.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, that's how it feels in the body.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and I won't lie. First few classes are head Yeah,
because you know your your forcing your body to release,
You're forcing your body to let go, You're forcing your
mind to really be open to you.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You're the problem. You know, You're the one holding.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
On, not other people, so they're not as good. Most
people do one to three classes and never come back. Yeah,
I'll say, do ten classes, then tell me how you're feeling.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You're feeling about yoga goes.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
By the fifth class, you know you already know exactly
what's happening. Your body is giving you information that you
really need.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I can imagine someone signs up and because it's the
way a lot of us on the other side receive
yoga is it's like it's what you do for exercise, right, Yeah,
you can imagine coming with that and then like you're
and you're just like, WHOA, what is happening here? But
(22:48):
that's so important because I think they say, like the
body keeps score, so it will remain there until you
help your body like process it out. So for a
woman watching this who wants to tap into yoga to
help her viacimsile, mind, body, spirits, where is a good
place to start.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'll say, friend a yoga teacher, especially if you're starting,
Friend that yoga teacher. I know maybe seventy percent of
yoga teachers in KA, so I can direct to you.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And she's a yoga teacher herself, and I'm a yoga
teacher myself.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But find out yoga teacher, find out your ga studio
next to you. Most some people do YouTube, But I say,
if your beginner really find a physical yoga class, do this.
There's a lot of yoga studios around now. If you
look up, let me know if you need that yoga teacher,
and I'll be happily to either come if I'm available
or really connected with the teacher. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And like enclosing, what is one thing in your life
that you feel yoga gifted you?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Compassion? I don't even know how to explain it's just
compassion towards other people, Like just seeing people who is
who they are versus what they have done or how
I think they are. Like compassion and also the ability
to just give back, you know, be be like a
role model. But I forgot to tell you because that's
what I was missing when I was growing up. There
(24:18):
was no positive role models. They were but they were
like who have the biggest guy, who can rob the
biggest you know, who can drink the most album? You
don't know having the positive role models in my when
I was growing up, And that's what I'm giving to
other girls is just make sure like you don't have
to be thiss with this.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
There's an alternative.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
There's an alternative, you know, because I was one of
the kids when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Other parent was like.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I don't want to see you with Catrie. And then
I'm I'm not the girl who are like take my daughter,
you know, can you talk to them and talk to
my daughter? It's like, yeah, it's just that that's what
your girl given me access to is being a leader
and also like a role model to other girls.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And you who are helping other girls to your angio.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, I have a small it's very young non
profit maybe two years now, almost two years now called
Yoga Lina. I'm teaching two classes a week for young girls,
so I work a lot with teenagers and with teenagers.
There's a huge, huge problem with teenager pregnancies. So I'm
(25:28):
I am working with teenagers. And when I see teenagers,
they're both boys and girls girls because they are getting
each other pregnant. In Carrio Bank, it's not usually like
older men taking a divorces. They're like teenagers on teenager pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, So we work a.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Lot on like really preventing our teenager pregnancies and we
use yoga to do that. And then young mothers. Then
I work with young mothers too, especially on issues affecting
young mothers.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And isn't it crazy, like it's full circle? Yeah, because
you came from your first teacher training and was like
my mom is my first Yeah, and now you're helping mothers.
And I think sometimes when we talk of issues even
around like teenage pregnancies, you never hear yoga brought up.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But it's a tool. It's a totally because you know
what's also with yoga is when you go to a
yoga class and you feel so good. You love your body.
You know, you start loving yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You start loving your body.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It doesn't matter what happened or what happened with your body,
because a lot of trauma comes from no physical either
physical beating or sexual harassment, sexual assholes. But you start
loving your body, so there's no you're going to put
anything harmful in your body. That means with teenagers, they're
not going to have, you know, irresponsible sex because they're
really loving their body. And they have these other women
(26:50):
who they can look up to and go like, yeah,
I can finish school, Yeah I grew up from bang
you By, I can go to university, Yeah I can
do something with my life.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
There's all these other parison they can use to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
And on top of that, with my non profit, every
six months I give pads, so in December, in June,
so coming up in June, we give bads to my
yoga students that last them for like a six months.
That's why we do it every six months.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
This is incredible. Oh my god, thank you for first
congratulations for all the work that you're doing and what
you've been able to do in terms of impact with
your work and yoga. Who would have thought.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Exactly if fifteen years ago you told me you like,
are you okay?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You didn't even like yoga?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And now see what you've been able to do with yoga?
And so thank you so much for the work that
you do and for coming on the show. And if
you check out the description, you will find contacts and
links to be able to reach out to Katherine in
case you wants to book a yoga class, which I
think you should, or if you want to support her nonprofits,
(28:01):
you should definitely go for it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Thank you for watching this.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Episode and make sure you like share it with all
the manalists and almost manalists women in your lives. So
scare to a channel and make sure
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You're here next week for a brand new epsite
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