Adult Chat with Keep It Coming Podcast Mashup with Anthony Saldana & Shayan Siren

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
The East Coast. Hellow Weeks Coach. We probably tape at
upn go Studios. You're one stop places for podcasting. Let's
get the show on the road. Keep It Coming podcasts
for comedy and Sexy Time fans. Keep It Coming is
about two best friends who live the Los Angeles dream
joined Tony and Cheyenne on their wild adventures. We experienced
a roller coaster of emotions and hot topics. Nothing is

(02:09):
off limits. Host Anthony Sadonnam is a California native. He
has been part of night life since he was twenty
one as a bartender, and we're going to talk about
good year. He had three hundred and a for bartending.
We're gonna find out how that happens. He's also an
avid real estate investor and loves cars and money and
is a size queen. Welcome Anthony Saltana. There we go.

(02:33):
Cheyenne Siren hails from Texas eaw where everything is bigger.
She moved to Los Angeles to eighteen and transiscent at
nineteen to the glamour queen and the trans community spokeswoman
that we see today. She is not shy about her
past that includes well a lot, and we're gonna we're
gonna get all to that. Please Welcome Cheyenne. Welcome to

(02:54):
the show. Welcome to the show. Okay, So before we
deep dive into it, for those not familiar with the
growing success of your podcast keep it coming, is what
what can audiences expect from the two of you?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Great question, why can't we see ourselves? On this.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh my god, he's such he's such a like let
me look at me? What a what a diva? You
go to his house and it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
But want to stand up and my grace?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh some of us can fill our grace sweatpants. Okay,
can we see ourselves? There? We go gorgeous. I have
to tell you, like, you are giving us sexy, but
you're giving us like a SMR sexy because when you

(03:42):
move it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh yeah, with all the latex latex lovers, is that there?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
The only time late text is in the bedroom that
you know. Okay, don't you can see yourself now. We
saw your grace, sweatpants, saw your cute little booty, which
is very popular. It's very popular. Booty awesome. Okay, what
is keep it Coming podcast? About? What can we expect
from you both?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's like a.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Sean just getting to be one day, actually almost exactly
a year ago, saying that she wanted to start a podcast,
and I was like, you know what, we have such
crazy lives and you know it's basically all through COVID.
We just did the craziest dumb and shit, you know
what I mean. Every day we were just like, oh,
let's bring a different boy over, Let's have a different story,
let's do something, you know what I mean, Because we're
all locked in the house. So we're like, damn it.
If we could just put a camera in the house

(04:35):
for that entire time, we would have had the best
TV show ever. So now it's like, you know what,
the only way to do that is go back and
talk to it.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
So and it really is comedy because you talk, it's comedy,
but you also talk about very real topics. You've addressed
a wide variety of topics that affect our daily lives.
How did the two of you meet, Well, he tried.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
To steal my boyfriend?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Does that? She does that?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
We don't care of no wet. We met at Mickey's
Its Hollywood. Yeah, he was. I was talking.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
To a guy and the guy kept talking about, oh,
my best friend Anthony, My best friend Anthony was how
is his best friend Anthony? Why are you not talking
about me?

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Because you know, I always have to be a center attention.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
And then I finally met him and I was like, wait,
I like you better than this guy.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So where is that guy? Now?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
That was actually my boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
You never known you to have a boyfriend. Yeah, because
you lead this life away from we ho night, like I.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Use that term lucy. I have romances. It's like you'll
have someone who comes and lives with me for like
a year or two and like, well, I live like
the whole romance, and then when it's done, it's like, oh,
let's quote the chapter and move on to the next.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's like a year your limit.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Until you find something new.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
And because you get bored.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
I do.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
And I don't know if it's because it's la and
the grass is greener on the other side type of situation,
or if it's because I just have a d D.
And like even with jobs and like the as I
said at Mickey's for so long, it's because I had
so much autonomy and the money was good, of course,
but it's like, you know me, I showed up when
I wanted to, I did what I want, I drank,
I got wasted with my friends.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Like it was.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It was less of a job and more of something
fun to do. And I was only there twice a week.
But yeah, and I mean now I manage her of
yeah everything the forward, yes, okay, I don't know only
oh because on YouTube, I don't know we on ours
we avoid saying that. So it's just because you never
want to know about monetization and whatnot.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
So like, okay, so he has add but he managed
to focus on me for the past eight years.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
You saw something good. He was like, okay, So no,
are you guys really best use or that's the brand?
But how much time are you spending all thegether early
week too? And you guys filmed like fun little like
skip videos too. Who's the creative person behind that?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
It really depends.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's more of a collaboration.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
We have a so we have a notepad that is
literally probably thousands of that song that we've been putting
in there from over the months or even years where
it's just like I'll wake up in the middle that
I will have a dream and I'm like, oh, this
would be great. Let's do that, you know what I mean?
And it worked really well.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Also the trending shit you go on TikTok, what's trending?
So we go to target and we'll start throwing ship.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, it does well. It's it's so crazy hard. Part
is uh TikTok train. The ass we get banned.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
On social media is and we have no idea what's coming.
We don't know what regulations are coming. We don't we
don't know what's coming on the pipeline. Remember TikTok was
supposed to be banned in January, right, whatever happened to
that that that news kind of just disappeared WI Yeah, yeah, Okay.
We know people like, oh, I should start a podcast,
and we know friends that have started a podcast, and
like two months later, I was like, oh, I don't
do that because we know how much work. It is.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So much work, and.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Your podcast is more of like a filmed podcast. It's
very you're sitting on a couch, it's very TV show like.
It's very fun, and it's like we're hanging out with
you at your house and you've totally remodeled your house
a part of your house to create this beautiful studio.
But we know how much work it is, and it's
not once you make it like okay, you're my official.

(07:57):
We're co hosting this. Because I've been through fix co
host and when you start working together and you start
having to put stuff together, it takes the fun quotion
out of being friends. We're like, sure, okay, we have
to film this and we have to edit this, and
we have to tag this and all that. How has
podcasting together changed the dynamic of your friendship? So I
be honest.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Answer this one. The best thing about it in Chyan,
the weason we works so well is I'm very, very
very business is tell me where to go, what to do,
and I'll show up. And you know what, it works
one thousand percent in every aspect, even in only fans,
because like I'm I'm a direct director producer at heart,
Like I'm very logic. Everything I do is logical money,

(08:40):
like I have to find I'm a planner, you know
what I mean. So with her, I'm like, you show
up in my house every single Tuesday and Friday to
film from four pm to eight pm period. Does a
matter of rain, shows, snowstein, whatever. We're friends, you know,
no vacations whatever, Like we plan our vacations around it.
Every Tuesday, every single Friday. So we have Tuesday, which
is our our podcast day. We update, upload the podcast

(09:01):
and only fans content. So it's just like and then
it goes into like Catterbay or whatever we're doing for
that night. But as long as she shows up, I'm
going to run the show.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
But are you spending time outside of the Tuesday and
Friday just as friends.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
The thing is she doesn't like to even leave her house.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I don't. Yeah, no, So I am a homebody like
through and through.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't like yeah, because from the show we get
such like party party vibes like that, and the fact
that you are so organized, and I never knew that
aspect of you, because I would see you in West
Hollywood and you'd be like, it works perfect, a big party,
Girls Central, and you just want to stay home.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well I was, and then a lot of trauma and
just every time I left my house, I would almost
go to jail or just make really bad decisions, which
is good for a podcast, Oh my god, it's and
I have so many stories in my repertoire. So once
I run out of those stories, then I'll start going
out and almost going to jail again.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
But yeah no, let me know it.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I I'm aliable, very demure and mindful. And then two
or three shots later, she's like, I want five guys
to pee on me and the show, and like I'm
down for it, spitting my wine. Let's yeah, you're hot,
Let's take him home.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
And like a normal Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We'll literally we had the craziest stories just from walking
down the street. We were at Taco's one Tuesday night
and before you know what, three guys just walk up
to us and like exchange number and that at my
house and didn't leave.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Like we had a bottle of Pannessee and a bunch
of per cents and they were just doing them off
my tip.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, but that's literally like I cannot leave that.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, it was chill night. Like one time we literally
like it's a Monday night. I was like, we're going
to do a movie night. And then we invited a
boy over, straight boy, and he got into my little
I have a little junk drawer filled with goodies and whatnot,
and he's like, oh, I just picked something up and
put it in my corona. Well, he didn't tell me
untill later. He's sitting here and his palms are sweaty.
He's trying to jerk me off. He's trying to play

(10:55):
with her wiener and.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Like what was going on with this guy?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
And he's like, oh, yeah, I kind of went through
your drawer and like found something and I just put
it in my thing And.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
There's a lot of this story, but it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Was like a Monday night and we're like, what are
you doing?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Motherfucker?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, So put the dynamic with your friendship. It sounds
like there's not many boundaries. There's some fluidity here.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I've seen my whole from every end.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Does it ever get weird because, like, I mean, I'm
close with my friends and sometimes things happen, but like
that's pretty close.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Before meeting her, I actually was afraid of trends and
drag queens. I saw drag queens as clowns and I
don't really like clowns. And I saw trans people is
I don't know what the fuck, like they could figure
it out, mental illness type of thing that was me.
I just was like I didn't understand it.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
This is also I met her in twenty seventeen, early
twenty seventeen, so prior to that, you know, I just
didn't care. Working at Mickey's, it's all a performance. So
it's like, oh, it's the performing art.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, well, good for you.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I've done drag before. You know, a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Have you seen the pictures?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And you think you have a pretty boy and he'd
make a aredy drag queen.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No no, no, no no, and uh, I just don't
know how to walk in heels. I was like a
football player. But but yeah, and then I met Schryan
and it was like it was life. It was literally
life altering because it was very much like she was real,
Like you see them all being fake and I see
it as like, oh, they're living these double lives. But
when she came up to me and she was like, Hey,
just the heads up. This guy came up to me
and brought me subway at my work and I think

(12:22):
he's dating you, and I just want to let you
know because I don't funk around with that.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah who I can't.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Say his name?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
You tell me?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, let's should be an answer at making six
' five my type, yeah, the size of your sorry,
but yeah no. And then her coming up to me
and being real that actually was like, oh that's cool
because like no one in LA would do that. Everyone
LA would do the opposite, you know what I mean,
they'd steal your man and then you'd find out like

(12:50):
five years later, Like she walked up to me, She's like,
f y, I you have motherfucker, you know what I mean,
and I was like, the funny thing is him and
I actually had no relationships, so it was fine. It
was just like oh cool, like good luck with that,
you know what I mean. I hope you could take it.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I done. But I want to know, coming from Plano, Texas,
you know, we know Texas is extremely conservative, have you
always been this outspoken? Have you always been so sure
of yourself and your sexuality? Where did that kind of
come into play growing up in Plano?

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Honestly no, I was like a weird, artsy student that
looked like a school shooter.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, looked like a school shooter. Then I was like again, yeah,
esus R.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
And then like edit, edit, edit, well, and then.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
They were like they were like, oh, you have low
to saucer on like, let's push you onto sascron.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
So then they put me onto saucer and and then.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
I got really fucking hot and had like abs and
facial hair and everything. And then they put me in
sports and I was in football, and so I was
doing that and I was basically living this like life basically,
And then it wasn't until I moved out here when
I was eighteen years old, I was like, I need
to find myself. Like that's all I wanted to do,
is I needed to find myself. I didn't know what

(14:04):
trans was like in Texas, we didn't know what trans was.
I remember like my first memory being like, I want
to be a girl at three and they're like, you're
fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Wow, there's no such thing. We didn't have social media
like that when I'm YouTube is not whatever.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
So it wasn't until I moved out here and I
went to the abbey and I saw three girls that
were some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen
in my life, and I'm like, something's different about these
girls and they were like. My friend was like, oh,
you know, they're tramps. And I was like, oh, mind you.
I had a fake eye at that and I was like, oh,
no way. And I was like, so you're telling me

(14:36):
that I can look like that one day and they were.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Like, yeah, if you put in the work and money.
That was a lot of money and then.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, and that's when it first started to click.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
And so the beginning stages of my transition was a
lot of exploration, a lot of figuring out what I
like my sexuality and stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Because I've dated women in the past. I've dated men
in the past, you know, all of it.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
And so yeah, eventually it just got to a point
of like when I especially when I was meeting Anthony,
I was definitely trying to find myself and I was
on this path and on this journey of finding myself
and he allowed such a like safe space for me
to be myself. And that was really cool because he
saw a lot of the struggles. Like as much as
he seemed the good, there have been so many nights
where I've gone over to his house crying because these

(15:18):
people were mean to me and they didn't let me
into this club and I will never be this way,
I'll never find love.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
And so he found so much of that support.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
So as much as he has a tough serier, I
always say, he's always provided that I never I want
to say, and he always provided that space for me,
and so through that I was able to flourish. And
then yeah, now here we are just crazy. Living a
life was a dream.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Literally what were some of the hardest things to get
used to and living in La coming from Oh, I
mean just.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Everything in Texas is convenient. Everything has a drive through,
everything you can you can walk up to anywhere and
there's parking directly in front. I mean, it's just the
can veniens of it. But I will say what I
love about LA is the opportunities are endless. You can
literally be whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, And that's what I love about your guys in
your podcast and the content you're putting out. You're doing
the work. So many people, like we said, start a
podcast on they just fizzle out or they don't apply themselves.
It's like, you can't come to LA and depend on
your looks. You can't depend on your social media. You
have to do the hustle.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
But I couldn't do it on my own because I
don't have that hustle in deep downside. I just want
to stay at home and be hot. But he has
the hustle and and he's able to be like this day,
this day, this day, we do X, Y and Z
and that's how my brain works. I literally don't want
to do anything business, anything, this anything in life.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I just want to be hot and funny, and he
sets it up for me to do. So It's like
he sets up the joke and I delivered it was fresh.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Now just a little you know, do you ever feel
like God I'm doing all the business part of it
because that's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Looks I love it.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I will say though, there really an argument recently, just
a little bit when I was just like, girl, I
feel like I'm bringing everyone to the table.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
But I mean that's a conversation that has to be hat.
You know, it's a give and take, just like with
any relationship.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
But you know, now more than ever, I'm feeling it
it's more equal because I do manage her only fans
and that's a really good business PARTNERSHP because at the
end of the day, like only fans is based specifically
on your physical appearance. That's it, you know what I mean.
You don't have to have fucking personality. You could literally
sit there. So for me, I'm putting in, yes, a
lot of work to like message here here here. I mean,

(17:31):
her only fans get seven to seven hundred to one
thousand messages every morning.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Thank god you didn't resort for those management bots. Do
you know how many well, you know how many people
have had major issues.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
For sure, we actually tried it. We actually tried it
for the first like four days.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
People have lost their core income because their fans are.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Like no, and I noticed that, like I would be
in the middle of like how many a conversations with
someone on like Snapchat, and then we hired a bout
like a company. There were real people though.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
They told it was amazing. You don't have to put
me on your personality whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
And I mean in the middle of like hey, you know,
and they're like flirting and then they come in and
be like, what's your favorite season? I'm like, motherfucker, this
guy is like, you know, bricked up, where did it go?
And you're asking about your seasons? Like it would drive
me saints. I have to go unsend it, get back
into the conversation. So I was like, you know, fire them,
you know what I mean, I'll just dedicate three or
four hours before I go to bed every night and
just knock out the messaging.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
But now being so at home with your sexuality and
celebrating your sexuality and some of the antics that I hear,
we know part of the trans community is also being
fetishized for sure in porn in only fans. In real life,
do you ever feel do you feel empowered when you
are able to express the sexuality and have straight guys

(18:41):
come over and do things, or does part of you
feel fetishized at all.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
You know. In the beginning, the attention was a lot,
and I was like, whoa, what is this world? And
you're just like in Candyland, almost like the opportunities are endless.
But then it gets so a point where it's like, Okay,
now you're starting to see the negative effects of it.
You're starting to see the dark side of things, you know,
And I just I have a lot of rules for it.
I always say, capitalize on any and everything possible.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
So my god, that's what I did.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
And honestly, I'm not trying to promote sex work at
all whatsoever, because there is a lot of evils do
it and people need.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
To know that and you have to have a very
strong mind to go into that. And even then, so
fucked me.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, But at the same time, there is this little
bit of worth that I got just from being able
to capitalize on it.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
You call the shot at the.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
End of the days, it's yeah, I'm in charge for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I've heard that there's been a struggle when people have
been fetishized no matter what genre. But it's like, okay,
the morning after where you want breakfast in bed, or
you want that cuddle time whatever, and it's based on
this sexual fantasy. And it's like, you don't live that
sexual fantasy twenty four seves. Even if it's a big
part of your life, there's that part where you like,
we're like, well, I'm a human being too, and I
want this kind of companion shop.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah. No, for sure.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
When I'm out of this, I look like a skater girl,
like hot, pretty bangs, like literally no makeup, no nothing.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, the fantasy ends when I go home.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Uh, and loving dating for you. I mean, this is
a little fun fact for people may or may not know.
You've been married to a woman and you've been married
to a man again. I've known him for maybe seventeen years.
I never knew any part of this. I never knew
men lived with him for a year. Oh yeah, because
you've kept that all pretty secret.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, you have to. I feel like that's necessary, you
know what I mean, it's what you put your.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
We're in an apron. It's like look at me, look
at me, look at me.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
No, no, no, because I mean there's a lot that
I don't post about that you'll never see. I'll never
post like I've.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Never seen one that or like people you know I've
seen your goddamn cars.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, I'm not going to post all my houses get
around there either, you know what I mean, Like the
car just for fun and I don't even say it's mine,
or you know what I mean, I just posted and
it leads the fantasy like what do you think? But
yet to know what question you're asking me?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Okay, so you're married to a woman and a man,
whatever part of that whole situation you want to start
talking about, Like yeah, I mean, I don't know who
came first, the man or the woman, well not in
the bedroom, but like who marriage was shaking her the egg?
Who did you marry first a woman?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Or yes? Yes, yes, And it was more or less
any sugar mater suituestion connection since I was nineteen and
we met on a cougar cruise, which is like out
of Newport Beach. You would get on a boat and.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I would they come out of the woodwork and they
got money. Yeah, and they don't always need to be
around the whole time.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
And yeah, and it was it was more, it was
very great. I needed it, you know, it was like
very much. It worked for me. It was she was
like nineteen, Yeah, and then you know, everything was gotten married,
Everything was fine and dandy for a while. Yeah, we
did that because oh that's the time. Yes, I'm sorry
we got married because she makes a lot of money
and I did not, so it really brought her back

(21:49):
cracket down, so it was like it was more financial.
But I mean it was fun. It's like I got
did you live with her? She for a little while,
but she was also preeod. She's a lot older, so mine,
she's she's still now, yes, and she's here today and
it's one's mom. No, but yeah, and then even then

(22:10):
I cheated on her with the guy, and uh, crazy,
this is a wild story.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
But actually you have to like perform all the duties
of the course, and that's a problem for you.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, I cheated on her with the guy.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
And did you have to pay a guy?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Got the guy gave me? And this guy we're messing
around for a while, who was also married. And I
or to a girl to a girl straight.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
In Orange County. This is the bull that happened. I
was raised Orange County. Oh, somebody can home. We're all
married with kids. Do you see them at church and
they pretend I don't know you?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, then He ended up giving me gune rhea and
I gave it to my then wife and I got
the call of at the anniversary. It was so crazy
because I'll never forget this, but uh, I get the
call from him and I've never had an s CD before,
none of us had. But apparently he was hooking hooking
up with like you know, escort girl or some ship.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
And yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
He calls me and he's like, bro, there's some green
ship come out of my dick. I don't know what
to do. And I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, like gouye shit,
I don't know it's green. Yeah, yeah, I know it's
great and uh. He immediately comes over and I hoped
and I'm driving and he hoped inside the passenger seat
and he pulls the dick out and I'm like, oh,
there's definitely like some like going on. And within minutes

(23:18):
I get a call from my wife.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
She's like, like, I said, put the kids to bed,
that says on the rocks after dark.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, She's like, Babe, there's something going on, like you know,
like does something that was a feel right? And it's
like shit. And at the time, the doctor, my doctor
was my uncle, so I called my uncle and.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
He's like, I need all some HBO Max series.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, he's like I need all of you guys in
the doctor's office at the same time, like I need
to treat all of you guys type of thing. And
I was like, shit, so that's weird. It's me, him, her,
and the girl. The guy that I was missing around
with brought the girl that he hired as like an
escort to dinner afterwards. Well, the craziest part is my
wife at the time was crazy. She's Egyptian. But she

(23:54):
comes up to me and shuts screaming at me and
yelling at the girl. The escort girl was like, you
cheat on me with this slut. You needed to go nuts.
And I felt really bad for the girl and like
I looked at and I stood up and I was
just like, no, she done you with him, and I
looked at her and me being you know, you want
to say words that cut now was like, en, You're
the reason that I'm gay. And I literally said, that's her,
I know, and uh it was devastating.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
But how long we were you been married for seven years?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Almost seven years? Yeah, yea, yeah right, and ah this
was yeah, I'm married the guy after Bruce.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yea twenty years and those were like your formative years though,
when like we're supposed to be coming into her own exploring.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I was still bartending, and I mean everyone knew
it because she would come into the bar and spend
a lot of money at the bar, and like everyone
knows her and knew her around town. It's like, oh,
this is like lucid person. She would make it very
well known because when anyone come near me, she's just
oh god, Oh there's another story. It's this girl little
her name is Felicia. She was like four foot six.
Jokingly called me her husband, and my ex wife took

(25:01):
her back of her phone and just beat the girl
in the face.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I think we've called Anthony our husband at some point.
You can talk me like hi, Hobby. Yeah. So do
you consider yourself bisexual or fluid.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Or we actually just recently discovered this with one of
our guests on our podcast. Is I'm hot sexual? So
if you're hot, I'm kind of desk down. I've seen
some of the guys are with a that's objective.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Now, do you ever feel protective over him? No, let
him do this, I'm thinking, Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I always say do it for the plot always, you know,
I want to see what will happen? Oh you want
to do that? Sure be messy, let's record it.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Has he ever told the other person don't do that?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah? Yeah, we still do it, so there's no point everything.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well, the thing is we used to Sean used to
bring boys over and then I'm like you like, no,
I love that. But the thing is she didn't understand
for a while is like, okay, you bring him over
the third time. They become part of the group, and
that's the thing is like when that happens.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Get comfy exactly. So that's how they like, all your
stuff is in the house.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
So she'd bring him around the group and I'd like,
once the instagrams are exchanged and the hey, let's hang
out sometime. That's where she'd be like, oh fuck, what
have I done? Like there's times where we've we've shared
a guy where it's like, you know, she for you guys.
In the morning, the guy would be cuddling me and
not her and trying to be like, get the fuck
out of here.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
You beg it yea.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh sorry we say such words on.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
It, but I am like, my name is Cheyan Siren
for a reason, like I'm a siren. I lure the
boys I'm missing, and then when I'm done.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
With you, I'm going to kill you. I'm gonna destroy you,
like I want you out of my line.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Do you ever catch the fields? Are you dating somebody?
Are you open?

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
God to dating?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
How long is this show? Well?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
The last person I was in love with almost me
in jail. So yeah, he was an emo rock star
boy drug dealer. Yeah, rock star drug dealer.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Back off.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
For me?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, I almost.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
I literally almost went to jail. And that was actually
a big reason why we started the podcast. I was like,
I need to find something productive because I am just finding.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
You know, She's like, I need to find something where
he sees me looking hot all the time.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Why are you virtual? Why are you so fascinated with
the chaos?

Speaker 5 (27:23):
I don't know, And I really wanted to dissect why
I love chaos so much, Like I've always been that way.
It's like I've always want to be friends with the
guys that are like throwing fireworks ship.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
And like this and blowing shit up. Yes, And I
love that.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I love that, Like yeah, fuck the systems, like just
act crazy and be wild. But I am thirty two
and I'm getting to a point in my life where
I'm like, okay, well I do want to have kids,
and I do that. I want a family, I want everything,
and I just can't still. But that's why I hope
I need to have sons, because I want to live
vicariously through them, be like blow like, you know, go

(27:58):
do this, go do that, and just like you know,
I'll get you out on detention, you know, like just
tell me all the stories, like I gotta know, I
got to live through you.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
But yeah, now do you do you find yourself falling
in love though, and you stop yourself or you just
don't have those feelings yet.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Right now, I'm distracted because you know, for so long
and my whole twenties, I spent it wanting to thinking
that a guy was going to save you know, that
was going to take me out of your yourself. Yeah,
And so I thought, you know, a guy was going
to save me from escorting and take me out of it,
and everything was going to be set, and everything was
going to be fine and dandy until I was thirty

(28:34):
two years old almost getting arrested because of a guy,
and I realized, Shit, I.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Don't have a career. I don't have anything to wake
up for tomorrow. You know, Like I have a dog,
I have a cat. Like they're amazing, They're my everything.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
But at the same time, I'm like, I need something
that I can just call my own, so that if
a guy were to wake up one day and say, hey,
I don't love you anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
At least I have my career, you know, or something.
And so that's what I didn't have because escorting, especially nowadays,
it's not it's not what he used.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, we're gonna talk about escort it. We're gonna have
a whole talk about that. But what I love is
that you're so available and you you talk openly about this.
This is something that you talk about on your podcast.
This is something you share in jokes, but it's something
that you share in serious as well.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, well it helps with my own trauma.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
And I find that finding the comedy and everything helps
him move forward because you know, I do battle with
mental health and is something that I've always battled with
and I've always learned to just find the funny every situation,
no matter how trump.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, now you with love and dating since I
don't know anything about this whole bath. Are you dating?
Are you open to love and dating?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
No, not at all at all.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I do not feel those feelings. Opposite both do not
feel those feelings? Or you're just so turned off? Do
you have to being married twice? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:52):
That And I think, and this is something that we
debate about and with different people on our podcast, is
that there gets to a point where you might just
be too old to date.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Where I don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I think it's here's that ringing, here's that ringing, And
it's not an age thing being too old. But I
mean you grow into a part of your life where
like the smallest things are going to turn you off
to someone, and you become.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
A mouth breather or somebody that leaves breath. It's something
that like that clips or nails in bed.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
So that's what I mean. You become you know, when
you're in your early twenties up to twenty five, your
brain is still you know, forming, so you're able to
like mold yourself into someone else's you can say.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
But somebody else's house for three days in a row
and then come back to you.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
In life.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Now, it's like you know I've lived alone now, I
mean outside of it.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Hour have your dog.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, And it's like and I'll try.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
To date someone. Then it's like the smallest thing will
annoy me to the point where I'm like, okay, like
you you know the look what time it is?

Speaker 1 (30:44):

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Like, look at that. You gotta go.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
So what's the last time you tried date?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Ooh, I couldn't even tell you. Probably three years ago.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Twenty like, like, when's the last time you went, like
on an actual date.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh, I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
You don't go on dates on like mon No, So
I look up at your house.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
My thing is so I I love dinners. I'm a
food freak. Anyone who knows me, you see my social media, Yeah, bitch,
So I take dinners for like that's a very special time.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
And some pictures of your dinner, but I never see
who you're having dinner with, which I always found very Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, I don't do that.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So my thing is like sometimes it's a lot of
older people because a lot of my friends are older.
But then it's also I have a lot of I
have two different groups, you know, very distinct different groups
like the older group of the younger group, you know,
working at Mickey's. That might be a client who comes
into Mickeys all the time, you know what I mean.
Or it might just be a friend, or it might
be you know. The thing is, the dinners that we
go to are a thousand dollars plus. So it's not
like I'm just gonna you know, if I'm going to
go on a date with someone, I'm sorry, but I'm

(31:42):
way too high maintenance for someone to be taking me
out somebody that is of a certain that the other
way around, if I'm going on I can't date anyone
who makes more money than me. It's like a mental
thing for me, like I have to make more money.
It's like a it might be more of a control thing.
I cannot date someone who makes I've tried it. I've
tried to show anything where it's like, you know, if
you come to New York, you can live here and

(32:03):
you'll never have to work a day in your life,
And that sounds horrible to like, I have to be
busy at all time no matter, you know what i mean.
So like I've tried it, can't do it. The other
aspect of it, where it's like I've met someone on
actual jail websites where you talk to people who are
in jail and then you paid. I've paid their bail
and get them out.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Wait.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I've literally flown them out here. They have kids,
and I'll like buy their kids backpacks and like school supplies,
and like I'll find them out on the weekends, you know,
and they go back to their jobs Monday through Thursday
or Monday through Friday. That's my kind of vibe. It's
like a weekend situation.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
What do you do for the weekend?

Speaker 5 (32:31):
You have? No?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, sometimes I mean it's always expected. I mean, to me,
in the gay community, sex is so easy, Like I
could log in right now and scroll and be like
let me just go take a break real quick and
be back and be like, oh, you know, I just busted.
So to me, no, I'm very much time spent as
my love language. I guess you'd say.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
So.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It's like, if I'm going to spend time with you
or vice first, that's gonna be above all because like
I don't know, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's been three years since you went like on a
legitimate yeah for sure, and what turned you off with
that guy?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's tough to say that I don't remember time. My
life was so busy, Alexander, like, I don't even remember.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay, we're all busy, also have time for love. But
I understand what you're saying. When you're so you feel
lead such a great life being on your own, it
takes a lot for somebody, but we all have those
moments of companionship. Are you, guys ever afraid that you're
filling the void of other relationships by being with each other?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
That's probably a good thing. I'd almost prefer that, at
least it's.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
A healthy way of doing it.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Not if she were to find like a really hardcore
boyfriend and start dating and be like, well, I don't
have time problems.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
No, I told myself I would put myself in that.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
The one thing that we both agree on is making
money kind of supersede anything else.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Money comes and goes so quickly, life comes, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
No, life is more fun when you're when you can
afford to take helicopters places and you can afford to
go and do nice ship like if.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
You're taking a bus to skid rope exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's fun, hot guys there, No, I mean we can
we can really go deep.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
We can go deep into this meal.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah it was fresh.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Okay, let's take a little break, let's do some hot topics.
We got sentence. So I want I want your first opinion.
I saw my good friend's boyfriend on grinder. They don't
have an open relationship.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Do I say something absolutely not?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yes, nope, yeah, for sure? Yeah? Look out?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
So really you realize she loves the chaos. See that's
so of course she's gonna jump into that.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
But aren't you looking out for your friends? I have
a loyalty girl, And then wondering if they're going to
bring in.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Some Listen, Alexander, with your stuff coming out, you can't
wreck a happy home. So at the end of the day,
if they're not both happy with if they're not both
happy with something, that's their issue.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
You know your friend, No, that's your friend. You can
give a shit about who he's dating.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
But post the other person first.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'd be say, you're gonna tell him? Or am I
gonna tell you?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I wouldn't say those words, but I'd be like, I
suggest you. I'm going to suggest you tell them because
it's gonna fall apart and gets to there. I told you, So.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's my thing, but just being a good friend.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yeah, I'm with you on Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I say,
I'm there. I'm an open book.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
As you see. You can't keep a secret, all right.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Next one, my boyfriend has gained weight consistently since COVID lockdown.
Now we're heading into the holiday season and I know
he's going to gain even more. It's starting to affect
my attraction to him. Am I allowed to say something?
I don't want to be mean or make him feel bad.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I am a You're gonna hate me for this. I'm
a fat I'm a fat shamber. I mean because it's
my No.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
No, I mean it might not be you, it might
not be real happy in your life.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, I might not be on brand with this, but
I mean, I just think that it doesn't take a
lot to not be morbally obi or like. I don't know,
it's it's tough. How do you know how to work this?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Ever been chubby in your life?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, I'm tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh get out, get out?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
No, okay, here's my thing, So getting people like this
go ahead? No, no, no, but I do try hard
to be skinny, to be my weight. Like I I
fast every single day. I do a fourteen hour fast.
You know, I work out fasted.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's ridiculous, that's not that's not a normal light like
no offense, but like.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I don't know, there's the enjoyment on that, like you
want to have a piece of Hey, I'm gonna argue
this real quick.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, please do the fact that we have topics, the
fact that we have.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Such easy access to food isn't natural or normal as
it is.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
You shouldn't in the US, Like if you look at
us size this, I'm with you on this.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
You shouldn't just be able to walk in your fridge
and just eat whatever you want in other countries, like
you know, I don't know about that, even like starving
countries where it's like you eat when you can, or
you eat when the sun is at the highest point
in the sky. Like you know, the Americans, we just
get to just open our fridge and we have everything sugar.
Literally everything is our bread has sugar, you know what
I mean. So it's like, you know, limit yourself a
little bit. Like I tell people and they're like, oh,

(36:47):
I just want to lose a couple pounds. I'm like, okay,
just do you see that fourth meal you're having maybe
making not as big you know what I mean, like
that or your third meal or whatever, just maybe cut
the portion size and half. You don't have to stop
to eating. You don't starve yourself. You don't have to
do you have to go to freaking him for for
our prit sakes.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
But like you just have to fast fourteen hours a day. Okay,
Well I do that.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Because I think it fights cancer personally. I've done a
lot of research where it's like it when your body
goes into starvation, when it starts eating like other parts
of your body, which is like cancer cells or whatever.
There's a lot of research on it. In then get right.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
If it's a family thing, it's gonna get you and
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I mean, I've heard of people who have actually heard
types of cancer by just fascinating because your body will
eat the cancer cells. Like no, it's it's very true.
Like your body goes like it's why didn't eat?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Your going to rehab them?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Oh bastards?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Well can he give?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
But here's also the thing. If I had two dollars,
I could go to McDonald's and get a double cheese
worker for two dollars, could I get a salad? At McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Nope, I mean I personally, salad aren't great for you either. Yeah,
but we can go we can go deep into this.
I have a lot of time on my hands, and
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, here's what I also appreciate is that you're being honest.
You know, we talk about the things that we put
on our hookup at I'm not into this. I'm not
into this, And yes we should be politically correct for
a certain level, but you can't tell your body to
get hard over something that you're not gonna get hard like,
no matter what you try to buy.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's nice.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Quick, I'm gonna backtrack real quick. You could take that
two dollars and this is you're gonna sound You're gonna
hold on. This is gonna sound crazy to you. But
you know, a lot of people grow their own food
or vegetables. It's like those two dollars, you could buy
a fucking packet of tomato seeds and have your own
goddamn tomato plant. But people just don't be good because
they're lazy. That's it. It's cure.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Tell me how many people in La have room for
a garden in their studio apartment? That they're struggling to
pay rent.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Hey, if you go on Amazon and you get a
starter pack for twenty five dollars, you can have your
own goddamn garden. I actually know qutter of people who
have theirwn little gardens in their houses.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
So I'm gonna wait six months for tomato to grow. Mean,
I'm gonna pass away from not eating.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
You're talking to somebody not eating like that. I promise
you that he tries that. I actually saw a fun
video though, of this woman who was probably around four
or five hundred pounds talking to the doctor and she's
like I need to I'm just saying. She's telling the doctor.
She's like, doctor, I'm really hungry, and he goes, he

(39:04):
looks at it, and he goes, don't worry, You're.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Not going to starve. I saw that.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I was just laughing because it's it's it actually was
open kind of an eye opener for me because I'll
be in our podcast, because I'll be fourteen hours in
my fast and film, like shit, we have another two
hours to go, and I'm like, I'm starving and angry. Yeah,
that happened today. Actually, I literally just barely ate my
first meal before coming here and I kind of went
off on our our editor for not taking a correct picture.

(39:29):
I'm like, oh, the fucker, but you just.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Have like a good time, Okay, But if you're in
a relationship, aren't you falling in love with the person?
I agree that in the first couple of years you
are dating what you like.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, I want to hear.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Let me just so, like if they're a hiker and
you're in hiking and then two years into it, all
I want to do is sit and watch TV. You're
dating somebody that's step thousand and physically. You can't tell
you to get excited about somebody who's chunky if you're
such a but you just can't.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Yeah, no matter what you know, I mean, well for me, Okay,
So I like really like very very hot guys.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I like skinny guys. I like guys that are like
rockstar guys.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, typically very skinny, you know, yeah, tall, lanky, Yeah,
I look like Jack Skellington.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
But I will say this, I do have a certain
expectation obviously for what I what I want.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
But then once I look into your eyes and I
say I love you, that is my like forever promise
to you that I when I say I love you,
that means I will be there for you through any
situation in your life.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
And usually they always leave me.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
But yeah, that's and I made that promise.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
And I told myself, like, if let's say the guy
I'm with gets into a car accident, I have to
like wipe a ship every day.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I would do that. I would do it. I would
do it, and I would and I would be grateful,
and I will tell them every day I love And.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Especially if you have kids, you are fall in love
with the father of your child, people forget like it
from You're gonna you're gonna gain a few pounds and
you're not gonna be able to get rid.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Of haven't said anyone, you know, But I would hope
that the person feels the same way about me.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
But yeah, it's a promise.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
You're talking about. The only person has gained weight on
the tempic. The nurse was even like the nurse had
to come and be like, I don't think you're doing
it the way I'm on. I stopped it. It wasn't
doing anything but testing me money.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
To wrap this that hot topic up real quick, I
have to say this about both of.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You, though you also bring it too in terms of
like looks, keeping yourself, you know, like you're making that
So should this person be able to tell her boyfriend, hey,
you're gaining some weight.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
And so the bottom line to answer that question is
honestly the best policy because at the end of the day,
if you're not happy in that relationship, then that's where
cheating happens. That's where like animosity starts.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I had a situation where I was dating someone who
going into it had you know, really big dreams and drive,
and he was actually trying to build houses for the
homeless people when partnering with the City of West Hollywood,
and it was going to bring in shipping containers and
blah blah blah. And then my fault, I mean, it's
one hundred percent my fault. But I spoil. That's my
thing is I'm a spoiler, Like I want you to
buy you the nice dinners. This is it control thing

(42:17):
it might be.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
And I love that he's buying nice dinners for people
he wants to.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
No, it's very oxymoronic because another thing is I bought
the biggest down fault of my relationship and with him,
it was one of the longer relationships for almost almost
three years through COVID. Before COVID, I bought him an
Xbox three sixty or whatever it was, Xbox x. I
don't fuck no, I don't play video games. But he
sat on that count for the next three months. His goals, dreams, aspirations,

(42:44):
everything about building homeless shelter is gone.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
And you know what he was did weird things to
people before.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
It's just twenty nineteen, and it took too much.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
You took too good care of it.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
That's one hundred percent. I changed this person essentially because
you know, he went from being driven in this why
why are you going to be don't go to work
like here, I'll give you money and cuddle and like
you know the game literally and then then I begin
to fucking hate him. So same thing with that one.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
It's like, do you think you set your boyfriends up
to break up?

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Absolutely? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Okay, let's do this. Let's get back to talking about you.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
My husband and I have been married for ten years.
This is the first year he will not be attending
my family's Thanksgiving because of the way they voted. Should
I make him come with me? Is he paying too
dramatic and I don't want to get political. Let's focus
on We actually were going.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
To do a commercial about this. It was so funny.
Tell him about the commercial, so I.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Don't, Oh, don't give it away.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
We ended up not doing it.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
But it was like I was gonna make we were
going to make a fake commercial basically selling this like
product where it was basically like flavoring for your food.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But it's like, I don't know, something whatever kills people,
like bleach or.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Something, and it was basically going to be like, oh,
you know, if you don't have the emotional maturity to
get along with your you know, just kill them, like
basically to kill.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Them this thing and then have like the grandma walk
into the thing and be like, oh hey Grandma because
she's wearing like a Trump hat and you try to
kill her. So it's like trying to but going back
to you didn't do that, by the way, but going
back to that, this.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
And this is like we got this. I got this
message today from Instagram. I actually know who it is.
And we're talking ten years of going to the family
and putting up with some weird comments. Yeah, we have to,
and again we're not going to get political This election
was weird for both sides, and it really caused a
lot of trauma for a lot of people. And so
I think this holiday, a lot of people are going

(44:36):
through this, you know, and it's.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Not just affecting it's affecting a lot larger parts. We're
even noticing on social media. You know, there's a lot
of people who are deleting Twitter now and they're going
to blue skylue Sky, and they're going which we.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Were supposed to go to threads exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
So I mean people are now like scrambling to figure
theirselves out. I think that situation right there. It's just
so at the end of the day, you know, regardless
of who becomes president, how is it affecting your life
that bad that you're going to destroy family ties? Like
it's just it's crazy to me. I don't know. I
don't think any election or politician or anything whatever get

(45:12):
my way to do that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I just think it's time. It's your time to really
create space for yourself.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Like if you feel like the president, the current president,
is bringing you down, then you need to create your
own space. As hard as that is, you know what
I mean, But like get up and put yourself in
room that Let's say people don't necessarily agree with you
or don't understand your lifestyle, and make them get to
know who you are as a person, because all of us,
whether who you voted for or whatever, we all have

(45:42):
parallels them. You know, we all deal with the same emotion.
So it's like if I can relate to you of like, hey,
do you know how what it feels like to be rejected?
You know what it feels like to get your heart broken?

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Do you know what? And just because you are some
seventy something year old.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
White man who you know whatever, and I am the
way I am, we can find parallels in our lives
and you can then have respect for me and I can.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
That is it.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
But politics is all I'm a conspiracy theorist. It's all
divide and conquer. Control people you have, you know, divide them.
But I think we as human beings need to get
back to community. We need to get back to creating streets.
We need to especially if the queer community is feel
very attacked, this is the time where you need to
shot and you need to go out there and say, hey,

(46:29):
this is who I am and put yourself in those
spaces like.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
So show up and be part of it. Let's have
to remember what the idea of Thanksgiving is. It's like
it's about it's about Okay, we have these memories with
our family or our friendship circle or whatever, like that's
what's going to matter in tenures.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I think the crazy part to me is that I
see my personality is so big. I prefer to put
myself in situations like.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
That done in going to the antagonistic just to start,
I don't believe no, ID like to put myself in
situations where people disagree with me because I not to
be antagonistic, because I like people to kind of form.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
No.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
The thing is, I don't know a lot about politics.
I didn't go to school for it, you know what
I mean. Why I only know buying houses, That's it.
But if someone tries to change my mind, I'm always
open to it, you know what I mean, for anything,
whether it is you know, if you're gonna think you're
gonna tell me pussy's better, I'm gonna say, okay, why
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Like you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
You look, you look at me that face. It's like,
why I mean, if you can put up a good
enough fight, then maybe I'll try it, you know what
I mean. I like to put myself in situations where
a challenges my brain personally, where it's like if you
put yourself in echo chambers.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
The time to challenge anybody. And if we're talking about
ten year marriage.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
But even just I in my opinion, because like I
grew up in Texas, you know, and I go back
and forth a time, and I go like this to Texas,
you know what I mean, And it's like so many times,
so many people, so many extended family members of my friends,
they'll meet me, Oh, I've never met someone like you,
you know, And I'm like, good, you need to meet
someone like you need to have a converse.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
You would have met somebody you while you were growing
up your whole life would.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
And that's the thing. It's like so many people don't know.
And I think I get it. I get it. I
understand traumas, that understand PTSC and I have a lot
of respect for people go through that.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
But just try your best to show up every single
room and be fucking seen, be loud, be seen, you know,
because if you just shy away and you think, like,
oh my god, the world is out to get then
no one's gonna get to know you.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
And why don't you just ask the host of whoever's
hosting the dinner be like, can we open up the
dinner by saying, hey, no politics, were just enjoying each
other and finding the common ground with people that know
you don't or being able to say, you know what
I needed. I need to walk outside and need to.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
I've met so many racist, transphobic grandma's, grandpa's and they
met me and they fucking love And I'm Middle Eastern.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You know I'm Middle Eastern.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
That's even like double yeah, double for sure. And like
you said, you didn't understand the trans community, but I
came out when my first years in West Hollywood. I
didn't understan in the trans community until I sat with
one of the most beautiful trans women and we sat,
we drank, talked for five hours. I mean I was
this was many years ago. We talked for five hours

(49:12):
and she was like, whatever question you want, just ask
And then I realized I didn't really have that many questions. Yeah,
I just didn't have that connection. And that's what you know. Yeah,
And I think the gay community is getting better at
becoming better brothers and sister. It's still a slow huge
Oh really it's good for only because.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I think the opposite. Only because and I don't know
if you're on Grinder at all, but I do know
that Grinder has.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Become your butt pick on Grinder you don't know it was.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Grinder has become very very trans central, like it's it's
it's like they have taken over Brin.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
So I've noticed a lot of this conversation.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
A lot of people are I mean, Snippies, Yeah, but
it's Sniffy is wild. It's like Snippy's is getting really cooky.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
All these fetishes I didn't even know existed are like, oh.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yeah, new mail clothes mail. I just learned that one
up the the other day. N mcm yeah weird. Yeah
yeah and so but no, So I actually think that
because now that I do have a podcast with a transgirl,
I do find a lot of people in you know,
even in lieu of the newest presidency, who've come up
and they're just like, you know, your trans friend is

(50:21):
in danger, And I'm like whoa, wha, whoa, Like calm down,
like why are you telling me this?

Speaker 2 (50:25):

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Like I tell her, I don't know, like you know
what I mean, but it's almost they were coming at me,
is almost attacking me because of her, And it's like
I'm like, are you attacking me because I'm friends with
the transit or because of the new president? Like it
felt really weird, you know. It's just like, well, you know,
they all just go and grind her and just everything's
ts central and everything's ab CD, and I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
All right, everything, but it has definitely changed. There's a
lot of straight cuts. And if you happen to message
them or whatever, they're like, if you f word and
keep whatever, it's true. I made her from a meeting
place for and I actually think it's dangerous because I
have trans friends that are on Grinder. They'll meet a
military man and then they'll have a great evening and

(51:07):
then he'll turn around and.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah, we have a friend that she got stabbed nine times.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
It's danger meeting is dangerous.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
But and then they love to say like, oh, I
didn't know, and it's like you're Grinder, you knew, Like yeah, exact.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
It's almost like when a stray guy goes to a
glory whole, you can't possibly think that a real fucking
female is behind that hole, Like what real cis woman
gets on her knees and no, there's a lot of
Ohe gets on her knees and does and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
It's just like it's so new, Like what are you
doing your free time now? Just imagine that you're just like,
let's go to glory. Oh he didn't say.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
It was fresh.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
All right, I have glory in the house.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Let's get back shut the two of it. You have
talked very openly about topics.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I want to hear more.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Hawks.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
No, we have more, but let's coeckt to you guys,
and I like hot topics. You've talked very openly about
sex work. We know sex work is such a hot
topic right now, and there's all these assumptions about being
a sex worker. I have many sex worker friends. Yeah,
they can afford a better apartment than I ever will.
They're buying their houses there, they're living their life. Yeah,

(52:21):
and they're in power of their sexuality. Can you talk
about how you got into sex work and some of
the myths you want to debunk right away?

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Well, so I started, I want to say, when I
was twenty two years old.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
I just I needed to get surgeries. I had like
literally eighty dollars to my name. I had no surgeries.
And I remember a trans mother of mine like, just
open up a care credit, get your boobs and then
start second. I was like, and she was like, it'll
pay for itself.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I was like, okay. I called in lied.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
I said, oh, I make two hundred KVON you know,
got approved and was able to get my boobs right away.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
It was my first major surgery.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
That what was that surgery? You remember waking up afterwards?

Speaker 5 (53:02):
I mean, yeah, I mean it was fabulous. Boobs are
like insant. It's like instant gratification based. It's very like,
oh my god, you have to wait and the swelling
into this and oh this is looking this way and
then you have to correct this, and but boobs is
just insant. And so I got those babies and I
was I'm pretty sure I like hooked up with a guy.
Three days I saw a tape bum and I was

(53:22):
just like making money right away because I was like,
I got a churn and burn and that was sort
of when I fell into it in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, it was amazing. It was so great. I'd never
held that much money ever in my life, like and
to make it so fast.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
But it wasn't more about more than the money though.
It was like you were coming into your when I
did it. Well, I'd done a lot of.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Like sexual exploration before that, and I was running into
a lot of issues of like guys wanting to give
me a secret or guys not wanting to be take
me seriously, and so I got very you know, depressed
myself about it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Why doesn't anyone want me? And so then when I
saw this, like, wait a minute, I can.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I will keep you a secret if you fuck pay
base and if you don't pay me, I will then
I have hit for your hip hop. Then I have
free reign to talk about it, just like any other
girl can talk about it.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I can talk.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
So yeah, So it kind of turned into that, and
it it started off amazing, like all things. But you know,
I don't want to sit here and promote it because
I think there's a lot of people promoting sex works,
like yeah, do it, quit.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Your job the people do it.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
It's actually like, yeah, no, I do. And I'm very
grateful for it and I'm very blessed for it. But
at the same time, it is a very you there
is just it's a very slim like.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
You can just go down a very dark path very
and I know a lot of girls who have. You know,
you start making a lot of money, ego gets into it,
start getting greedy, you start getting like hungry for it,
and then.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
You spend yeah, exactly, and as fast as.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
The money is coming in, it's going And I just thing,
and this might sound crazy, but when I look back
at the times when I would work at a restaurant
and I would bust my ass off for two weeks
and I'd make like four hundred dollars, right, I still
remember holding so much more value to those four hundred
dollars than I did from just getting two k right there,

(55:18):
you know.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Because I felt like I woke up, I got out of.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Bed, I went somewhere, and I did this. And that's
why I admire Anthony all the time, because he doesn't
he didn't need to be a bartender, but he would
still wake up and have purpose.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Every single day.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
And my Grandpa would always say that, like the reason
why I'm ninety years old, ninety something years old, because
I had purpose every day I wake up and so
for me, I had blackout curtains, and some days I
wouldn't seed sunlight for like dates because I was just
sitting churning and burning client and I was like, well,
there's a.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Depression, of course. Yeah, it's weird having this connection with
people and not having any connection with them with the time.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I'm like, I need to see some light. I need
to like you know what I mean, like something, I.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Need tacos, I could have a yeah, but find me.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Finding that motivation to get up and get out there.
And that's why it's it is hard, you know. In
the beginning days of the podcast, I'm like, like, you.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Had a very real moment that you guys posted and
I was like, that was a gamble. You were crying
and you were like it's fucking hard and we saw
you break down, and I thought that was such a
telling moment because it gives so much validity to the
comedy moments too, because you are that real person.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Yeah, it's it really is like a moment where I
was just like, I don't know, I need I need
to find some sort of the film. You know, money
can bring happiness to a certain extent, it does not
bring the film at all.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
And so that's what I was crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I think you disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
He loved me. He loved We had this conversation on
our podcast too, where it's like, you know, his money
by happiness, and there's studies, there's so many studies on
to get through life.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But I said no, but I meant it in the
sense of it doesn't bring the film.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
For sure, that's a hundred person I could see. It
makes you get dress free. In a lot of ways,
people gravitate towards you when you have money.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Well, there's a real friendship.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
So yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Oh yes. So there's a saying that I would say
sometimes and I kind of added to it because it's
like there's a saying of like the person who's willing
to do anything will have everything. But and I added
that this kind of the end is like, but that
person could have nothing at all, because at the end
of the day, it's like, you know, you couldn't have
no family and you just die alone, you know, And
like that's why I'm like, shit, I really want to
have a kid. But like even having a kid as

(57:26):
a gamble, you don't know if your kid's gonna love you,
you know what I mean, Like your kid could actually
freaking loathe you, you know, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Shoot, but what did your how did your family deal
with your transition?

Speaker 5 (57:36):
In the beginning, I went about six months without talking
to my mom, and it took her, i want to say,
up till two years ago to finally start gendering me correctly. Yeah,
because I've always been Shine, that's my birth name, so I,
luckily band have to learn a new name.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
My dad, I didn't talk to you for about nine years,
and then we just started building a relationship.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
She mastered with her dad on bumble.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
No, that's a lie.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
I know, No I did it, you know, Yeah, No,
but yeah and so and so. Now we're kind of
like we're working on But how.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Special is it that you're working on? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I mean I think a big part of it is
he's just he's older, and he's like, why why fight
the fight? Like why you know at something time when yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Like my grandma was Catholic and Mexican and like all
of this conservative stuff, and she got to the point
of saying, what I fight again, Yeah, you make me happy,
you fill me with love, Like what's yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
And that was their thing. They saw me.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
They were like, wow, Finally you're like, you know, happy,
you're you're yourself. You know, you're confident in yourself. I
mean obviously, and.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
You're not calling them, hey, I can't pay rent this month.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Literally, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah for the most part. And again, like we say,
money doesn't buy happiness. But when your family sees that
you are totally self pos they're like, yeah, oh okay,
maybe they're life.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
That's one of the big things that care me from
coming out is because you're coming out. I didn't really
have a coming out story. Is more or less like
when the whole when the wife situation fell apart, she
obviously told my family, and it actually.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Really she hadn't been having sex with men, like really
like I jerk.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Off with the dude, but like it was more or
less that yeah, yeah, nothing crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
And would you say like, and I've heard this said
so many times about you, it's like, oh, he's passable,
which I hate that term so much, but people have
talked about like he doesn't walk in a room, and you're.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Like, m M, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Yes, was that a question or was that no?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
I'm just saying so that goes along with like not
having to come out or.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Yeah, no, I never really had a big coming.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I just for me.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
I didn't care too much about other people's personality or
other people's opinions. I don't know. I didn't Epiphana one
day where it's just like walking through a crowd of
people and I'm like, I'm never gonna see any people
ever again. I could butt naked right now and just
not give a fuck, you know, because I used to
actually really really care people thought about me. I did
my eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I would in West Hollywood and we're told and.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
We're in the bar.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah, it's like I had to be on all the time.
And we used to have we used to have to
be shirtless when I first started at Mickey's back in
two and I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Remember, you know, it's like I had to be shirt
of shirtless.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
And then like things started getting a little like, oh, well,
we can't make you guys do it, but you can
wear a shirt. And then I was like, oh, I
start wearing a shirt, you know what I mean. And
then it's like now people are trying to get me shirtless.
I'm like, uh, that's at least a hundred bucks, you
know what I mean. Like I'm not taking my shirt
off for nobody's shick. Chyan doesn't get naked on her
only fans, and she makes a ship ton of money,
you know what I mean? Like, why the hell am
I showing my titties off?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Well pay per view?

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Oh yeah no, but yeah, I just stopped caring. I
think what people think, and then I think money played
a big role in this. And we've never we haven't
even talked about this conversation in ours is that, like,
you know, it comes to a point where like, that's
gonna sound really bad, So I'm probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
No, maybe I'll help you with it. When you look
a certain way and you have certain money in your wallet,
you can feel that way because it gives you that freedom.
Other people do not have that freedom. No, people, other
people that move from Texas, let's say, and they're struggling
to make it, and they don't look a certain way
and they come to La or West Hollywood to fit
into this vibrant community. Yeah, pream is not that welcoming,

(01:01:12):
and so there is a different and this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Might be a very dark turn, but I'm just going
to be real. Since that's the common is the common
is for in the trans world, you know what I mean.
The reason why so many people are like, why do
trans girls care so much about their appearance?

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Why do they care about like this and that in
the sense like we not only just want to be
where we want to be like the person, like the
literal perfection of whatever woman can be. I think a
lot of us. I mean, there's definitely a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I have many many trans female friends. They don't want
to do the glamor they don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
They just want to live for sure, for sure, But
I feel like so many of us, like at least
for me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
And the reason why that I am always like so
on it with me put together is because in my
earlier days of my transition, it was very dark.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
It was very horrible, and I noticed that the better
I looked, the more guys wanted to pay me and
fuck me then be and so.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
As fucked up as myself. Because that's why I have
my darkness. And now I'm in a place now where
I'm more comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And goats and you're just I actually, and I tell
people this all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
I feel my most beautiful, no make up, just chilling,
you know, But I do sometimes so feel this need
to a little you know, to It's like a protection.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
And sometimes we need that little boost of attention.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's a dark term for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Here's what we do on the show. We drink a
little bit and we talk about like real things that
are affecting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
People, we're working through and I love the more stories
that we share, Like the three of us could be
more different. Yeah, but we still come from We've dealt
with the pressure, We've dealt with great, We've dealt with
our identity, We've dealt with body issues.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
But so okay, let's bring it back to you be
healthy healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I'm pretty healthy, just so you enough, I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
Why are you kicking everything? So I saw five pounds
shower might like you're thick. I actually liked thicker guys.
We had no no are you in your little site
because I don't do reverse.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
We just had this conversation on the last podcast where
it's like, I think there's there's bads of both. If
you're too skinny and you have thigh gaps, it's it's
that's Yon's type. I think it's unhealthy. He does at
the end, it's unhealthy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
No, if you could half.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
No, I don't need ABS at all. Actually, I prefer not.
You do not have ABS. I like, just like a
healthy person, whether it's thick or not, just like not
a morbidly would be not someone who is at risk
of either direction, because you could be super skinny and
still have diabetes. You deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
You had plans in this last year to become a
father last three years. I didn't know until I went
to the house and sold the student that you guys have.
He's like, oh, that's for the nanny. I'm like, what nanny?

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
And I was like, oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
He's like no again. Because you keep your private life
very private. When did this idea to become a single
dad come out?

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
I did keep it private until this damn podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
No you had you had you had a baby shower.
I wasn't invited too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Yeah. No, So I started the process prior to COVID,
right before COVID actually so four or five? Oh my god, right, yes, yes,
right before COVID hit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Did you talk to her first about it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Well, I'm trying to think because it was my birthday
slash like I was just I made the announcement, didn't
his birthday a baby? But yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
So it's something I've always wanted. I wanted to have
a kid for a very long time now, but I've
just every time I get closer, like I I'm pretty
far along in the service circuity program, like the egg
is fertilized. It's kind of like sitting there waiting to
actually go into a surrogate. I just haven't pulled that
trigger because every time I tried to, I just get
cold feet. I don't know, I'm just not ready for it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I think that's so when a parent is like, I'm
not ready, Why bring a kid in when you're not read?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Most people do, though, and that's what's fucked up, because
I know people who are just complete idiots that like
can't even operate a motor vehicle and they have three children, you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Like and I'm like how why you know? And here
I am, I'm like, no, I want to make sure
of this mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
There's also too regimented to that, like that you do
have a bedroom for your nanny, like you have this plant.
When my mom had me out of wedlock in Texas,
she was the whole family was like, oh whatever, she
went ahead and did it. I had one of the
most happiest Childhood's happiest relationship with my mom was she prepared.

(01:05:40):
She would never have been prepared.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yes, same, My mom had mes year was eighteen, so
I get it. So I see my mom was twenty one,
and I'm like, but I also saw the struggles of
young parents where it's like a lot of relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Mom never made it a struggle for me. We just
shared so much happiness.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
That's good. Then.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
So if you're always gonna because you're so organized, if
you're always going to wait.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Maybe I know it's like wait to get there. No, no, no, no,
when are you going to feel that?

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
I know you want I want to do so one
of my really good friends she did this, but I
want to do foster. So I want to go and
be a foster. Yeah, and I want like a court
so awful two three four year old boys. So yeah,
I just think it would be if I if she
got very lucky, you know, she adopted's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Going to be like the mom on the Longest Yard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
No, basically that's literally at like fourteen, my dream, no, literally.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
My dream is to just be like, yeah, I love
that so good. She's so iconic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Is the Longest Yard. Yeah, no, no, no, the blind Side, Blondy,
the longest Yard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Oh my god, it was fresh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Now are you nervous at all putting all of this
content out on Keep It Coming podcast? Someday you want
to be a dad, Your kid's going to look up
some of the stuff you've done. Yours are going to
look up some of the stuff you don't do you have?
Did you have any trepidation of being so pretty and
honest with this puck?

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Only because I am going from a super private life
to a lot more open.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Life, That's what I'm saying. I've never seen you act
this way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Yeah, quite a few people told me that too, Like, dang,
Like I've seen you act free.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
They're like, you're gonna be really opening yourself up to
a lot of you know, criticism, a lot of this,
but like, I don't care. I don't know nothing about
your future kids. Yeah, that's gonna be a different story.
Who knows. Uh, you know, I could be dead, but
it's nice for me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I always think like, because my parents were very very
much tried to shelter me as much as possible, and
I do love and respect them in that sense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
But I was such a late bloomer for so many things,
and so I feel like I was very chaotic later on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
I feel like if I were to just be open
with my kids of like, hey, this is the negative
effects of what happened to me, just to let you know.
But like, if you need someone to talk to, I'm here,
and just then they're not gonna want to do it.
If you tell a kid like, oh, go drink alcohol,
like what I mean, don't, but they're just they're not
going to do it, it takes the fun out of like, Ooh,

(01:08:12):
I'm gonna be mischievous and I'm gonna go do this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
I'm gonna be sneaky.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I had a friend tell me that she wanted a
tattoo so bad. Her mom was like, go do it,
and she was like, I never did it because me
and all my tattoos are.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Yeah. My parents would be the same way, you know,
I once we got old enough. My parents were so young.
I've seen my dad do like lines of blow off
my mom's but like they were just wild and younger,
and like my dad would come up like, don't do drugs, kids,
But if you do drugs, cocaine is all you know
what I mean, And I'm like, it keeps you thin, right,
I've never done to this day, I've never done. I've

(01:08:47):
never done. I've done my mushrooms is the only thing
I've ever done, but I've never done a drug other
than that, never Molly, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Done literally everything I had, very strict, he had very like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
You know, yeah, my parents, well, because I was a
product of like wild parents though, like my dad had
like three DUIs in one month one time. So like
I saw that and I was like, ah, got this,
don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Because my mom was wild in her time, that's whatever.
But then when she had me, her whole life changed.
She kept me sheltered. We joked. I moved to West
Hollywood and I was I had my first boyfriend, Promise,
and we finally had a sex talk, not the straight
sex talk, like any sex talk. She's like, well, I think,
I'm like, Okay, it's already happened.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
You're already blown out, shelter dating Thomas, so sheltered, but
I've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
That was funny, Like we didn't even have our first
sex talk because it was so like she just wanted, yeah, okay,
are you ready for our hot topics, the hot topics. No,
this is fun because I love that you guys like
have an opinion. Sometimes they do hot topics. We're like
whatever you like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
No, yeah, more surprisingly very different.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, and I really like that. Okay, my manager and
I used to blow each other at work. Hot One
of our coworkers ratted on us and he ended up
getting fired. He's been calling and texting me. He somehow
thinks I should defend him or quit, and he still
thinks we're going to mess around. But I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
What should I do? Wait?

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Wait? Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Is this from Fiesta Cantina.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Oh, I'm not. I don't give ours because this is fair.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I just heard something like this that happened at Fiesta Kantina.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
That's a wild I'm not giving him the sources.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
So the question is, I'm sorry. So the person and
the person were blowing each other.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
So a manager at a lower level employee and I
don't mean lower level in a bad connotation, just serve
it to type.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
They were blowing each other at work. Coworker reported, manager
got fired, asked to leave, blah blah blah. Nothing happened
to the other employee. He got written up. Oh I
didn't read that, but I know it. But the manager
who's not there anymore, keeps texting and calling him, saying
you should quit too, or you should tell him it
really didn't happen or something, and then he still wants

(01:10:58):
to hook up. We know we're in certain positions. I
don't know if you guys have ever done theater. When
you're in theater, you date everybody in the cast because
you're in rehearsals and you're in performance, and has that allure.
Once it's over, you're like, okay, no, I'm not into
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Well, the real question is was the blowjop good because
it to find a good blowjob.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
But he says, but I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Oh shame.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
I don't know if I can answer this question because
I know the entire backstory now and give us your opinion.
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
When I told people were doing hot topics, all of
a sudden, was like, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Don't think anyone should expect someone to give up their
job for something, period. You know what I mean, Because
it's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
He was doing the same thing that the manager.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, but managers and subordinates in every position, that's always
a little bit more ups workers. The managers are actually
barred from hanging out with subordinates period. At the end
of the day, the manager had the possibility of a
management role, I'm going to say, you probably should have,
you know, adhere to on that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
So wow, Well I don't know what to support.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, I don't think the employee, oh, manager anything. Yeah,
I don't want to have sex anymore. You don't want
have sex anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah, but what if he wants it again one day?
You never know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
There's just a certain lrend being in the same work.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I think there's also I've learned that people have a
really hard time with the word no, whether it's signing
it or here. Yeah, my mom was a big She
could not say no growing up. And I would notice,
you'd always get herself into these like get rich quick schemes.
You do the Kirby vacuums, a tub aware, the kid
party light, don't tell me herbal life like all of that,
like the Sai drink, the vos water. She did all

(01:12:52):
that because someone come to the door, my mom couldn't
tell them no. And you know, I learned from that
and I do the exact opposite. I loved it. I
live to say no, so at the end of the day,
I don't say no Tom I Oh why what? I
so if I never bought them for him? Just so

(01:13:12):
me either.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
I don't thank the tea right now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Why I don't even know I have some Oh my god,
next top topic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
I don't even know this. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
My partner has become obsessed with fillers and boatos over
the last two years. It has really become an addiction.
Not only is he drained or savings, but he's starting
to look ridiculous. He's going overboard. Am I allowed to
put my foot down and get them to stop?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, And I'm going to say this, Okay,
get botox. Yes, books is preventive, it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
But bill botox, did you save the receipt?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Bitch?

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
But filler though, don't do filler like you're putting this
because Biller, here's the thing, here's where I fucked him, right, Okay,
So I have to have a facelift at thirty years
old because I used to be yes, and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
There I had a face left.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Did you drive her home from that?

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
I was in Planet Texas. Shout out, doctor Raphael, love
you so much. Literally made me hot.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
But yeah, no, I used you got so much filler
in my face because it was addicted. You know, I
wanted to be like one of those microwave I wanted
to be one of those microwave transgirls. Like you can't
ice a square cake round, you know what I mean.
Sometimes you just gotta go under the knife. You really
feel like you're falling, go under the knight and just
get a pool. But if you put filler in, it's

(01:14:30):
going to stretch out your skin and then it's going
to go away, and then you're going to sag even
worse than you were before.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Well that's why, that's why you have to get more
and then more and the more.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
I think we're missing the point that the point is.
I think this partner doesn't think that they're hot enough
for their partner and keeps feeling this weird stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Oh, I was just giving us. Well, addiction is addiction.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
We'll talk to and filler should not be done under
anybody Spundory.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Oh no, it's not true. No, I asked you DPT.
She actually says twenty eight is a proper height. I
was just because it's preventive, so it actually what's the
last time that you had done five months. I'm due
next week next Tuesday, so I normally go every four months.
We'll go back to the hot topic. We're going to
bring it back around to honestly the best policy. So
I definitely think if it's going to hurt your relationship

(01:15:15):
in the future, especially your bank account and.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Yeah, you know where that just looks ridiculous regards is
rid of all the filler and get a facelift.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Well, he's asking for his boyfriend, So I think you
should open up a separate account that he doesn't know
about and put your money over there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
That's another hot topic. I think you should be so
honest about that's for your finance.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
But do you think you should have a shared a
bank account?

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
For household stuff, not for if I want to spend
two hundred dollars on a Snoopy Christmas ornament, which it
might have come today. Snoopy Jamie. We're running a little
bit over it is that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Okay, Oh, isn't Jamie the best?

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
So the best.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
She's going to go home for a little bit to
go back to school and then she's coming back to
the studio.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
I love That't the other guy. You fired him. You're
a monster, shamie, We're not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Okay, next hot topic. Okay, so you should tell him
stop getting the fillers, stop draining.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I mean, the thing is, he already knows the answer
to his question. So I'm wondering how in my.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Life put my foot down and get him to stop.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Are you allowed to? You're allowed to ever the hell
you want to, in my opinion, But if you're asking
for like advice, I mean, why wouldn't you? I guess
it's the question like, what's stop? What's holding you back?

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Right? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh, this one's really good. And I know who has
said this, but I'm not to say. My boyfriend recently
got into drag. It's his first year. He's been doing
really well. He won awards, and it's getting bookings five
nights out of a week.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Seeing him in drag is not a turn on at all,
and I'm sick of all the rooms being filled with
his wigs and nails and clothes taking over the house.
I really get turned off when I see him in drag.
What should I do? He's loving it and getting to
be a name in the community.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I mean, all these questions. But real quick, my question
to all of these people, to any the things I
know that are happening, why is it so effing hard
for people to just be honest with people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I don't know, because anthony, people date and they fall
in love, and so when there's a love quotion, like
you said, you build a different kind of relationship. And
so what you thought was a priority in terms of
them having abs or a big dick or whatever, it
goes away and you're in love with the relationship and
you don't want to hurt them. Yeah, we talk about drag.

(01:17:44):
That's a whole different let me finish, But it's a
whole different environment too. Drag is expressing yourself in a
whole different way. But we're also dealing with and I'll
be honest, I've dealt with this too. Like as much
as my voice is like hi and I do this.
I prefer masculine men in the bedroom. I prefer masculine
men in a relationship. When you see somebody that you've

(01:18:06):
been dating do drag. It's a whole different energy. And
I could see how it's maybe not sexy and it's
not a popular opinion, but I believe that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Yeah, no, I see your point, and I'm gonna address that.
I do want to say that, you know, a large
percentage of humans open the door. I do believe it's upwards.
In the ninety percent of people don't have the ability
to look into the future, whether that be deep into
the future, a year, a week. Some people live day
by day, you know what I mean. The finances everything

(01:18:37):
comes into looking in the future. You're going to hurt
that person in the future when you fall out of
love with them, more than you're going to hurt them
if you tell them out of love though, because clearly
he's not liking this, so it's going to turn into
a problem he's out of love with But I'm saying,
do you see what's on They're on a road to
breaking up. If he doesn't make any opinion, if there

(01:19:00):
are no dramatic changes being made, that's going to end
to a broken up relationship. So someone's going to be heartbroken.
So why not nip it in the button now and
tell them exactly how you feel, work on it now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
You would expect them to give up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
I would expect this person who's writing you to be
honest about how it feels. And then no, no, and
then they would work it out together. Why why is
that so hard?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Okay? So the question is how do you make it work?

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
How do you make it work? You communicate?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
What do you tell us?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
The solution is going to give up drag. You don't
want to let the house taken over by drag?

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Okay, so I'm sure. Then instead of the house taken over,
you have one bedroom dedicated to all of your drag
gear where it's organized neatly instead of plastic boxes. You know,
I mean, boom, communication done?

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Hey, how about instead of doing drag five nights a
week you do this?

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
How about when you what if they're bringing in money?

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Perfect? Then how about when you walk into that front
door you better not be dressed in fucking drag.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
I don't period.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I mean, if that's how it is. If like, you know,
just that, if ya don't like the color green and
you're gonna walk in wearing green every day, eventually I'm
gonna be like, all right, you know what this green
is to stop? You know what I mean? How about
you changing your car and not wear green when you
come into the house.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
If you love somebody so much, who cares what color.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Clearly he does, though, or else you wouldn't be talking
about it. I know. I mean, there's no right answer,
but I think communication is key for any relationship period,
whether it's artful or not. Communication, and it will help
in the long term. It will suck up your short term.
It will help you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Just see somebody thriving in their own I do feel. Yeah,
that's why you say somebody that maybe might be masculine
and then drag it up. It's not exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
That's why I say, you know, I love that for you,
but you know what I mean, like I love the
studio for you. But you need to truly if you
truly love something, and I'm telling you that for your future.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
If you truly, if you.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
Truly love someone, then you know you'll love them no
matter what. Maybe it's not true love, you know, maybe
it is, unfortunately, because if that's something that you really
care about, that's great. Like I mean, to each her own,
but maybe that's just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Let's say you met this rock star hot guy and whatever,
and he's like, I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
Start okay, So so actually that's crazy to say that
the last guy, the last guy that I liked. He
I would tell people all the time, like I think
he's going to transition, Like I would literally think that,
and it was so hot, and he'd wear eyeliner and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
But and I'd never and I'd.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
Never liked like guys like that before. I always liked
like the football title. Well, no, no, now I like
it because of him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Maybe if you dated somebody, you would wash yourself no and.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
So, And I remember asking myself it was an interesting question,
I asked myself. I was like, if he were to transition,
would I still And I was like, yes, I'm obsessed
with him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
I'd literally drink his bath water.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
I will literally tattoo his name on my forehead because
when I love someone I'm obsessed with.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
She's not lying, it's crazy, No, it's actually.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
That's very open. And that's actually it's unconditional. A lot
of like a lot of us don't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Have I just I when I love I so and
it's just I don't know, that's just However.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
It's also all the estrogen. B well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
I think also just like I don't know even when
it comes to like my mom and my dad, like
it might be a cycle that I may need to
break out of. But I've seen my mom continuously make
excuses for my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
You truly loved him.

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
That's not I know, and it's not healthy. So I'm
on the other side of it. I'm on the like
you're a ride or die. I'm there with you through whatever,
through thicker thin. But it's also scary because sometimes, yeah,
people can do really fed up shit to you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
And you'll still accept them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
So love it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
That is where I need to draw.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Conversation communication. Yes, what do you want most out of
keep it coming podcast? Like what do you want the
future to look like? What is the mission of this? Ill?

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Let's try and answer this one. I'm just on the
I'm on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Well, originally it just it started off like, like I said,
just something that will prevent it's fun people want to
get in trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
Yeah, and just and something to put myself out there.
And then once it started really getting seriously, it was like,
you know, you have all these dreams and hopes and stuff,
and now it's like, Okay, I have a very clear
vision of what I want. I would we'd love to
do a tour like a live and I want to
go to Bumble Yeah, and I just want to go
to like a random city and a random place and

(01:23:27):
just go on stage and just meet a bunch of
amazing people that that don't see or or maybe not
so amazing people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Pay and just yeah, going to their GSA whatever college
is there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Yeah, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yeah. Yeah, And just like I mean, even it doesn't
even have to be you guys on the road hearing
the crazy stories.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, so that's certainly something.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
And then I also, just like I said, it just
gives me a pep in my confidence and my step
to then be like, Okay, what what else you know?
Because I already so I actually auditioned for something. This
inspired me to audition for something, and now I'm going
to be in a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
So that's exciting. I can't talk about it at all
because I had to write a bunch of NDAs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
But now talk about getting audition process. Yeah, so I
and you talk about how you felt walking into so
I originally, so, I originally.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Moved out here for acts. That was my goal.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
I wanted to move out here and I wanted to
I was obsessed with Marilyn Monroe and I wanted to
literally be her. And then I came out here and
life happened and then you know, fell into x you
know what extortion? Yeah, fell into escorting and all that,
and yeah, I kind of like lost that site. So
now that we're performing almost every week, it kind of

(01:24:41):
like reignited that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
And also when I was going out to auditions before,
it was different. It was a different world.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
I would go out for like Prostitute Number four and
like this and that, and now it's like I auditioned
for something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
She's like the lead character.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
She's bad ass, and it was so great and I
and I knew when I got the script, was like
I'm going to I know I'm going to get because
I have just this new pron conference now and myself and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I think the podcast, Yeah it did, Yeah, it did.

Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
It brought it brought back that feeling of why I
loved acting so much, because it was like for an hour,
I can leave all my problems and I can just
play and act like a kid and nothing is supposed
to be taken too seriously, you know, and just.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Play my imaginations and my delusions.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
And did you do the reading with her? Like why
she was like prepping for the audition.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
No, I have my friend Kathy. She helped me. Thank you, Kathy,
I weren't even involved in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Okay, oh my god, I love that. Yeah. So it's
it's in the step. So I don't know what the
future holds, but I know that I'm excited for once.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
What do you guys think the future of queer community
looks like?

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Divided?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Oh and we have like your podcast is not I
don't know, it's not a queer podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
It's I know a lot of very amazing queer directors
and artists and actors and actresses that are putting themselves
in a lot more straight, heteronormative spaces and opening up
so many people's eyes. Now, you know, the last guy
that I liked and the crew he hangs around with,

(01:26:20):
they're straight, but they're very queer and they're very like rebels,
and I like that, And I feel like a lot
of that is sort of like mixing together.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Do you think we're gonna have to go in the
closet a bit? Because it's cool to be queer enough.
So many celebrities have come out as bisexual, Like you
know all this, I think people just want to be
homework is having free gay Well.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
With everything divided nowadays, people want community, People want a
space where they can feel safe and they can and
be able to create arts.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
But I feel like community also creates exclusivity. So that's
where I think that when I said divided, is like, Okay,
so now more than ever do we have like the
soho houses, the gravitas, the private clubs that the people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
That exclude the house has become not cool to go.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Well, it's not anymore. Well it's there's yeah, yeah, so
now there's a few more. But I mean so now
it's like the equality is a double edged sword because
when everything becomes equal, you you lose that like the
gay ghetto and like the spaces where it's like I've
noticed it working at Mickey's, whereas like before equality was
a thing, you wouldn't see the bachelorette parties there, you

(01:27:29):
know what I mean, You wouldn't see the woo woo girls.
You wouldn't see like you know, And I feel like
that's Tyler, what has become in a day. Yeah, and
it's it's actually horrible, you know. I think that over
the next couple of years on the idea of a
gay and inclusivity. That's what I'm saying. It's a double
edged sword.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
So like you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
You know, you can't have your cake and eat it too,
you know what I mean. So you know, I personally
like exclusivity and fuck it, you know. I like the
idea of the gay ghetto. I liked being able to
go to West Hollywood and watch porn on the screens
and like, that's why I started working at Mickeys because
its one of the journy as far as other than
Boo Box.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Used to be when the brick balls were up, and
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
And like now you can never because you know, the
ABC would never even come into the gay community. They
stayed away from that, like oh, you know, we don't
want to go anywhere. But then when the girls started
coming in and posting pictures in this and like, you know,
it just sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I just feel like we're like circus breaks when they
come in, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
And we're like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
That's a whole top.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
It really, really really is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah, you know what. They're also bringing money into the community,
and we know, yes, life is really suffering. Remember when
Happy Hour used to be packed from Mickey's to Abby whatever.
Oh nobody could afford to go to have hour. The
older people who live on social Security would be able
to pay four or five dollars a drink. Nope, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Yeah, yeahs was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
So I first, so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
I love the gays, I love gay ship.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
We have talked about so much. We're gonna finish the show.
I'm gonna ask each one of you, what is your
biggest personal life challenge right now? Right now? There's nothing
to do with the podcast. You like, you're like, this
is my biggest challenge right now? Ooh oh oh that's

(01:29:16):
a very that's oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Fuck do you want to answer this?

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
In mind? Would obviously we touched on that was be
the baby. But other than that, I told myself I
would be fully retired by thirty five, and I'm there
now and I don't want to retire. So now it's
finding something to keep me busy. So you know, the
podcast is probably that, But I honestly, I'm spreading myself
really thin noough, because like I'm at the new Bar,

(01:29:45):
I'm trying to have the baby, I have the podcast going,
I own a ton of properties over here that I'm
also managing slack, I have not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
A personal challenge, though it's a busy schedule. I'm talking
about you, since you guys, get so deep and personal
and keep it coming podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
You need to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Partial challenge, maybe actually allowing myself to have a relationship. Okay,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Yeah, I know, don't be a mouth breather, don't be fat,
don't buy him dinner, right, go on? Oh you know,
do some fluidity stuff, all right, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Answer.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
Okay, So my biggest thing, especially going into the social
media realm, is there is a lot of talk of
like you need x amount of thoughts and you need this,
and you need that, and you need this and you
need that. And for a minute there I believed that
like I needed X y Z in order to find
fulfillment and in order to find work. But the true

(01:30:46):
life and how it works, and I'm a firm believer
of God. God gave you all the tools you need,
gave you everything inside of you, and this thing is
not going to make you happy, it's not going to
bring you. It's like, just find the fulfillment in yourself
and what you love and then the rest will care.
So especially with that amazing team that we have here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Oh yeah, we had a full episode, Jamie. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Tell everybody where they can find and follow you. You're
only had everything.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
Okay, it's at Yon Siren s H A y A
N s I R I N on everything basically.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Yeah, and my o F is that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Yeah, Anthony sold the same thing. We made it really
easy for everyone. Well, your Instagram is not Anthony, it's Tony,
but if you type in my name, it pops up. Yeah. Yeah,
we're just going go on and go on her Leaue tree.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah, and there's some hot followers.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Film content together all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Oh, like like sexual stuff. I mean like I'll choke
her or like we just did like a foot scene
a little while ago where I like, yeah, but nothing actual,
like she doesn't do she doesn't do nudes for free.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
So we swapped cop before, but we never heard.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah I got to someone while they were.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Okay, and there we go. And I was a grab
bag up on here every day and on the Rocks.
Big thank you uh to Jamie running her show today.
We're gonna miss her when she goes back to school.
What should be back for on the Rocks? You're my
girl now right, yes? Yeah, please like, share, subscribe so
we can continue bringing this fabulous programming coming your way,
park free and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Some more comfortable chairs. These hurt and I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
If you didn't have a phony ass, it wouldn't be
a problem. We haven't had a problem that way, the
thick girl shore man chairs. Stay happy, stay healthy, stay sexy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
And if you drink, please stay horny and happy fucking Thanksgiving, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Oh by, This has been another episode of On the Rock.
Tweeting and slid into my dms on Twitter and Instagram,
On the Rocks on air. Find everything on the Rocks
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