Pro Wrestler and Entertainment Personality Taya Valkyrie with Musician/Producer BleachX (Jeremy Thurber)

On this episode of On the Rocks, get ready to rumble with pro wrestler and entertainment personality Taya Valkyrie as we chat about her getting into the biz, overcoming life’s challenges, her role as an ally, and her shift into music. We also welcome musician and producer Jeremy Thurber aka BleachX, and chat about celebrity collaborations and the future of the music industry…with co-host model and musician Steven Dehler… and your sassy host with the sassy most, Alexander Rodriguez. Raise a glass and let the drinks begin, it’s On the Rocks!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Media.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello on the Rockers, get ready to rumble with pro wrestling, acting,
singing and hosting diva, time valkyrie and musician and celebrity
collaborator Jeremy Thurber with my guest co host, Runway and
Print model and musician Stephen Taylor, and meet your sassy
host with the sassy most.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Raise a glass, Let the drinks begin. It's on the Rocks.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Life is a banquet and most poor suckers are starving
to death.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Time.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
I'd like to propose a toast.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is on the Rocks with Alexander, where I drink
with your favorite celebrities as you talk about fashion, entertainment,
pop culture, reality TV and well that's about it. So
pop a cork, lean back, and raise a glass to
on the Rocks starting let's get this show on the road.

(00:54):
Stephen Taylor on the Rocks, our veteran pop culture reporter
see when It's no stranger to a spotlight working as
a Runway and Print model who's been seen on Will
and Grace, Drag Race and toadra Call videos. As a
musician and dancer, He's appeared in VASS events for Less
shows and his YouTube videos of him playing shirtless are
very popular. Please welcome back the bubble up with the brains.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
I like that one. There's always a new nickname.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
So how are you feeling because you were like a
little sick last week?

Speaker 6 (01:25):
Well yeah, but I mean I might usual get like
a cold, like once or twice a year, and it's
usually like I get hit the first day, men the
second day and the third day I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
So but you also, like you have your certification and
fitness and all that, you still work out. So are
you supposed to work out through a cold? No?

Speaker 6 (01:40):
No, well you have to listen to your body. So,
like I mean, you gotta listen to your body. So
you know, every day I give myself a solid like
twenty hours of just just eating because you feed a
cold star of fever.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
So I was.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
I didn't have a fever, so I was just eating
as much as I could and just relaxing and was good.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Minute.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay, all right, well there's your fitness tip today. Okay,
let's welcome our guests returning to On the Rocks. Welcome
Jeremy Thurber aka Blea Checks, a multi platinum songwriter who's
currently working on his sophomore album, Fresh Off I'm a
massive tour with Trisha patis one of his longtime collaborators
and good friends. He's best known for his work with

(02:22):
Jake Miller, Megan Trainer, the Common Kings, and a slew
of K pop artist and more. He's prepping for his
new project for the next year as he continues to
write for artists all around the world. Please welcome back
Jeremy Blea checks awesome joining us adding some straight diva flair.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Tyavlchriy is a pro wrestler, actress, singer, host known for
her fearless presence, undeniable glam, and sharp sense of humor.
With an international career that spends many professional wrestling organizations,
Taya has become one of the most recognizable figures in
the wrestling world. Outside the ring, she's an accomplished performer
and content creator. She's the host of the web series
Making Towns with tie Up, which gives fans a behind

(03:04):
the scenes look at life on the road, and she's
a star and co creator of the comedy reality show Johnny.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
Loves tie Up.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
She also co hosts the pop culture podcast I Don't
Like That, Yes It's hilarious. By the way she serves,
she sarves, she serves her hot takes, Internet spirals, and
just the right amount of chaos. And if that wasn't
enough to keep her busy, She's carving her lane as
a singer and pop artist, stepping into a new creative
era that merges her love of performance with infectious music.

(03:33):
Her debut single is a bop and it's called The
Morning After, And I tell you it is spot on
and it's dance Like I said, it's a pop and
it's full of party, anthem, energy and playful storytelling, setting
the stage for her next releases With additional singles on
Horitay Yes, She's building a catalog that celebrates some power,

(03:53):
night life, glamour, and unapologetic fun. She's also a fierce
ally to the LGBTQ community and will dropkick you if
you don't support us.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Please thank you for having me. I'm very excited to
be here.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I'm surprised you could fit in the door with like
these shoulder pads.

Speaker 8 (04:08):
I mean it's just like my ego.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm mid shoulder pads. I mean you're you're too young pads.
A whole discussion.

Speaker 8 (04:17):
About broad shoulders, So I mean, like I just got to.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Like, you know, yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous. We're gonna just jump
right in and we're just gonna talk about your career.
You know, if you're on the Rocks, we welcome all
kinds of entertainment. Folk. I think you're the only second
wrestler in our thirteen years that we've had on the show.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
Well, there you have it, your favorite.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
Your new favorite, your face.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
But here we go.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
He's excited. I swear.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
You hail from Canada, the land of maple syrup and
hot mounties. Yes, what did you learn growing up about
life from your childhood that you still subscribe to to
this day.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I'm very lucky that both my parents, my dad's from Switzerland,
so he also was you know, he immigrated here with
my mom to Canada, sorry, with my mom when they
met and got married, and so that I was really
introduced to like a lot of different cultures and a
lot of different people, religions, lifestyles, everything. And so I
feel like that I'm so happy that I was brought
up that way because I feel like that has taken
me through my whole life and just you know, helping

(05:18):
me build relationships with all different kinds.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Of people and traveling the world and seeing the world
for what it is.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
And you really have traveled the world. You know all
these different wrestling organizations. I'm not going to pretend I
know all of the afternoons, just like it's a lot.
It's like Triple A. It's like lots of different Triple
A for me. But but you've ingretiated yourselves yourself into
so many different wrestling groups successfully, Yes, thank you, but
that that needs a little adaptation. You need to be
flexible a little.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Oh yeah, and I wrestling is different in every country.
For example, like because I'm from Canada, is the same
style as kind of American style, but when you go
to Mexico, you're wrestling on a different side of the body,
raise on the right, whereas wrestling in America and Canada
is on the left. And then you go to England
and it's a totally different kind of Japan, same thing,
totally different.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
So it's been really cool.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
And I also think that's what makes me different is
because I've really been exposed to all these different types
of styles.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
People's fans all the above.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Now when we think of a wrestler, we think of her,
and you know, we see your pictures and here just
you're just like a fierce hunk of woman, Like yes, yes,
but the actuality is you started out very early as
a kid as a professional book was ballet.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, so I was like a musical theater kid and
did ballet my whole life life.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
And I started young, Yeah, when I was like three
years old or something like.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I was the kid that was like the overachiever, wanted
to be like the lead in the you know, high
school musical and also you know, doing competitions and training
with the Royal Winni Pig Ballet through summers and like
the world doing Global Famous have Picked Ballet Darling and
uh yeah no. I just kind of was in the
arts of my whole entire life. And but I also
when people compare wrestling to ballet, I'm like, ballets hard

(06:51):
and the teachers can be bitchy, it can be can
be like I can remember so many times I went
home crying and my like bawling, and I'm like twelve eleven, yeah, eleven,
twelve years old, and like literally my Mom's like, okay,
well do you want to do you want to quit?

Speaker 8 (07:05):
And I'm like no, And I was like I guess
I just like being tortured, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
But it is funny because ballet it's a lot of
brute strength, yes, but it's done in a very stylised
it's very refine, and wrestling is brute strength as well.
How did studying ballet, how did that prepare you for
the ring?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I feel like it is also we are also very
refined in the ring because you are working in a
situation with another person, Like someone can't just wrestle on
their own obviously, it's just like having a dance partner.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
Obviously it's predetermined. We all know that. Now, it's not
nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know, and there's a villain, a bad you know,
a villain and a good guy, and like you're having
to like you know it. I feel like so much
of my ballet correspond to it, like with even learning
choreography and how to present yourself and creating those visual moments,
especially as a character when you come through the curtain
and creating you know, people like want to know who
you are as soon as you walk through, right, and
when you enter the stage as a dancer or a performer,

(07:57):
the same thing, you know happens there too, So I
definite only have so many things and also just the
training and like the training was hard in dance and
all that, but then you get your wrestling and they
just want to beat you up, like it's you really
got to be nuts.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
When you're in the ring, you're telling a story as
to your character. In ballet, you're also telling a story
just through movement.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And you know for football players, they tell football players
to study ballet because it gets them into.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Body brothers too. Yeah, lots of athletes have been told
over the years.

Speaker 8 (08:26):
I feel like Arnod Schwarzenegger did ballet too, can imagine that.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, Like there's there's a whole like there's been many, many,
very famous you know athletes through time who have been
told to do dance and stuff just for coordination and
timing and refinement of how they can like feel their
bodies and moves.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
We went to an Emmy gifting suite. Where's the trip,
But we talked to that little pilates girl. She was
so adorable and then she looked at your body because
you have a big you know, you have a muscular body.
Have you ever taken dance because well, I mean I've

(09:04):
I've seen your dancing. That's when it flopped in my eye.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Well remember when we did that wine and yoga.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like, no, I don't remember that. I was serving behind
the bar years and years ago. That's all celebrities, and
that was just like you would you would do.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
You would do like yoga poses and then like in
between like sipping wine. But then everyone just got trashed
because they were like not like falling over.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
No one came for the yoga.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
They came for the wine.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
So that's the extent of like my yoga pilates. But
I mean, yeah, I'm doing to do pilates.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
That girl, That girl was fun.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I will tell you one of the coolest experiences that
I had this year was I had never got to
see her wrestle live before, and every time she would
be in l A, I.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Would ricatric Attricia Trica Tricaurho.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Okay, you need do you need the hashtag? Do you
want to say one more time?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (10:18):
No? But so I had three days off between going
through that and I got to so I decided to
fly to Mexico City. She was down there, she was
all alone, and her husband was like, yes, you should go.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
I was there for like nine days or something I
was doing to her.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
I showed up to the hotel she was going to
do press and she left me for like two hours.
But before that we went to go do a snack
run at the Oxo, which was thirty feet away from us.
You can't walk two feet in Mexico City without someone
pulling out a trading card of tie.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Okay, let's let's be fair. Though I have bright yellow
hair and I'm tall, and dang.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Over here.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
The situation at all, and it was really cool.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
And then I got to see her art, and I
remember after she got off performing, she was like, I
was so scared when you saw that girl kick me
in the face. You were going to run up to
the stage and ruin my performance.

Speaker 9 (11:16):
Everything in my body was like protect my girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
But then I was like, Oh, this is really cool
and what they put their bodies through, and like she
will come home from she does TV every week, Bruce.
She's got all the creams, they've got the massagers at home,
They've got everything good, and it's they really like the
art is so insane and it's so cool to like
know her, and like I just asked her questions because
I'm curious of like I love to know how things work,

(11:44):
like what is the mechanics of this? And like knowing it,
Like she works so hard, but she puts her body
at risk, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
And I love answering your like questions about it. You know,
I have to explain and everything, and which is cool
because and I will say this about our friend group
in general, is like we all have these different passions
from singing, dancing, performing, hosting, wrestling, but I'm like the
only real like wrestler girl basically, and I'm having to
like teach everyone kind of what I do.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
And I think that that's.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Really cool because it makes her fun conversations and just
discovering and being able to go to each other. Like
We've gone to see Tricia's show with him. I've seen
him perform.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
To Get Up Up.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I'm gone to see his heart And it was
cool because he actually like took those three days off
and came down to see me.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
So it was yeah, and it was It's magical. Mexico
City is great.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
I think we did have a pool party like a
month ago where I let her.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Oh I was teaching him. We were very cheers. We
were in a different place there's a lot on the
rock situations happening in my pool, and I was teaching
him how to take like poison raunas in the pool.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
So he's standing up in the pool and.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I later to me dozens of times and I.

Speaker 8 (12:59):
Was like, the next day, go what.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I like, I'm on his shoulder, sitting on his shoulders,
and I back then off his shoulder.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
The idea is to take his head back, so he
lands on his head.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
So reason I.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Like, and he's like, let's do it again.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
And we just kept going and going, and I was like,
the next day, I'm like, is he right?

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Not hard?

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Were you?

Speaker 5 (13:21):
But no, I wasn't because it was so interesting because
I'm so curious about mechanics of any industry.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
We were so athletic in that moment.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Were probably because I was, you know, in a different spirit,
and so it was so cool because like honestly, like, okay,
this is weird, but like I.

Speaker 7 (13:43):
Could feel the.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
My legs clenching legs, and how she was doing it
so professionally, by the way, probably.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
It was fresh.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I woantn't know because you have everybody after you to
collab and when you look at people you've collabed with.
There's a certain type, you know, how we date a
certain type. There's a certain type with Trisha with tie
Up that you collab it's this strong woman type. What
makes you say yes to collab with with somebody?

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Well, I don't say yes to everybody. It's gotta be
like one, like I want to have to do it.
Like I'm at the point where like I want to
want to do it.

Speaker 10 (14:33):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
It's like I've done those years where it's just NonStop
for no reason because I'm practicing and learning. Now I'm
at the point where it's like, do I see a
need that I can fulfill? Because not every writer is
right for everybody, right, you know what I mean? So
one I have to connect and two I have to go.

Speaker 8 (14:53):
Can I do deal with this bitch in the booth?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's a strong I talk about myself. It's a strong
female type that you're drawn to. And I love that.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
And you know I've learned over you know, my really
long career, which he knows. I've known Daylor since I
was eighteen.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
You call him my last name.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah he was he as skinny as me, but he was.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Yeah, you're like everyone still says dell or toole from
back then, because I just didn't correct anybody, so they
always said it wrong because I was like, it's easy
to remember that way.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, you ken't going.

Speaker 8 (15:33):
Back and forth between your last name and your first
name earlier and I go, who are you talking?

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, we were in our kitchen and we were, you know,
getting ready for on the rocks.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
You're doing our poison scorpions or whatever you call it.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
The point is is, like I've learned through the decades
that I've had in this industry, is that every song
gives a piece to me, and I don't have to
give every great concept in my brain to someone just
to write a song, you know. And then I love
to listen to people and forward them in the right way.
So I guess if I have a type, I have

(16:09):
a type, and.

Speaker 8 (16:10):
We love you so much take an open m Yeah,
and like I have.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
You know, obviously, this new area of my career going
into music is rand new and.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Stuff, very naked to go into this direction, especially with
yourself out there a whole different way.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
And I hadn't sang in front of people in years,
you know, since literally being in junior high Cinderella Musical,
but like being friends with Jeremy and then like us
coming up the idea for the Christmas song last year
and things like that. He made me so comfortable and like,
I know that that's why people love to work with him.
And I'm sure that's why you have these long relationships
with Trish, with me, with different people, because you are
like so giving to the person that you're collaborating.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
But he's also but he's not just a yes man too,
because you.

Speaker 10 (16:48):
Can oh no, no, I'm not as.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
You want to challenge yourself. You want to be challenged.
I have to know how do you go from doing that?
Then you started entering in fitness competitions, which kind of
led into wrestling. How does that shift happen? What was
that spark that you're like wrestlings? For me?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well, I remember watching I was picked on a lot
growing up, and because I was like really short, I
didn't hit puberty until I was like seventeen, eighteen years old.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
At your reunion, now you're like, what, literally, holy moly,
our ratings just went up with our strik Holy moly.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
But like I wanted, I watched her.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have two black guys flip flop over here and
that one.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
But I remember watching wrestling and seeing women like Victoria
trist Stratus, Tory Wilson in an attitude era and trist
Stratus is Canadian.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Like me, and I remember watching them being.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like these girls are first of all, like so hot
and powerful and like to me, it wasn't like a
lot of people look back on that era of wrestling
and they were over sexual lives, rom panties matches, and
I was just like, this is fucking sick. But they're
just beating each other up and they look hot and
Barbie Barbie Dolls and doing all this crazy stuff. So
I kind of always was just like I wish I
could do that. I wish I could be that girl,
just for myself.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Did you have your Barbie Dolls as a kid, just
like and everything Barbie Dolls, they had to be rescued
a kid. I did the whole process.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, Rusty Dolls, But like I just remember just being
like I want to get into this because I feel
like this is something that I want to try, and
I don't know, it really transformed me and made me
kind of like grow into like who I am. When
I finally figured out how to get into it because
it wasn't like how it is now, where like there's
one million things online about in schools and you can

(18:44):
really google it and search it.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
I was just like, I don't know how to do this,
so I guess I'm just going.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
To try and do what Trisha and Tory did, which
was doing fitness competition.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
So I was like.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Literally at nineteen, being like, I'm just going to do this,
and I did it, and it actually like I won
Canadian Nationals for fitness and I went to the Arnold Classic,
I got second place in the Arnold Amature and then
I got.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
Called by WW for my first try out.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
So my weird plan actually, I still to this day
like don't know how I like pulled.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
That shit off, but I was. I'm so I'm like
when I put.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
My mind to something, I'm very like determined and I
work really freaking hard, and so I just knew that
I wanted to do this and there was no other way, Like,
there was no way I was going to fail at that.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
What did your parents say when you came out, so
to speak, as a wrestler, They were.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
My mom was literally like, we spent all that money
on ballet shout out Lorraine, Lorraine, Hurricane Lorraine, my mom.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
But like they were kind of like in shock what
I had to.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
And also my dad is like not swarty, like he
would take me to the ballet into the art exhibits,
like he's not he doesn't understand any of that, your
little quiet European man, you know. And I had to
just explained it, like this is like ballet. It is
like circuslay. It is like a stunt, stunts being done
in a movie that you really love. But I'm just
doing it live in my spande with rhinestones on. But

(20:02):
then once they kind came in, when they finally started
like coming to see my shows, and they finally started understanding,
they totally got behind it and realized that all that time,
all those drives to the dance studio, you know, multiple
times a week, really meant the world to me because
it led me to where I am today.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
We know, as a ballet dancer, spotlights on you. Ballet
dancers have to keep their body to a certain norm.
There's no outside the box with that. Then fitness competitions,
it's literally all about your body, having to condition your body.
Everything you put into your mouth to eat and the traineiculated.
Then in wrestling, you're in the spotlight with all your

(20:38):
fans paying attention to every curve of your body as
a woman, and we all have body issues, but then
your career is like triple that because it's literally all
eyes on you. How have you dealt with body issues
that kind of psyche where your body is so important
because that can be damaging?

Speaker 8 (20:58):
Oh my gosh, yeah, and I've definitely struggled with that.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I never had issues with like, you know, food or
anything like that when I was in dance because for
first of all, like literally I was just like the
tiniest little human ever, and like it really didn't start
like getting to me was when I got a wrestling
when I was started being on TV, when social media
became what it is, you know, and as a.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
Woman, like you said, like, and I mean this goes,
I hear it from everybody across the board.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Like people are fucking mean and say really horrible things
if it's not about your your body or your boobs,
or your this or your that, or they don't like
your hair color.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Or wrestling fans are very oh.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
My god, yes, and very like try it. They like
get in tribes and like hate on the same person.
And I've also been a villain on television my whole
career basically, so there's that aspect, but like it, you know,
I did struggle, especially in Mexico because I was taller,
because I had broad shoulders. I was like, you know,
like people say awful things to me because I just
looked different than everyone. And I really went through it

(21:54):
and like had issues with like eating disorders and things
like that. And it wasn't until I, like, you know,
several years later when I was able to be like okay,
like take care of myself and I you know, meeting
my husband and moving to the States and like finding
more stability because that was such a crazy part of
my life that I kind of like own myself now.
And I also, like, especially in the last couple of years,

(22:14):
even like just since we've been friends, like I've really
gotten to a place where I'm like, I don't give
a fuck what anyone says I look fucking hot. And
that's a new problem that you don't like how I look.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
So everyone else's opinion is none of your business.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yes, it's none of my business, isn't it, Like ru
Paul that says like she has a line like that,
or she said, like, you know, like they're not paying
my bills and put them to mine.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
It's very much that, and like it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Like I'm sorry that I I really have come to
a place with my body, with my attitude and everything
where I'm like, I love my life. I worked really
freaking hard to get here. No one can take that
away from me. I have the most wonderful friends, the
most wonderful support system and husband and family, and like
I just just don't care. You know, if you don't
like it, that's literally your problem.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
And like people are like the.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Other day we had like a meet and greet before
aw Film TV and some older man was just like
telling my husband, John, can you tell your wife I
hate her hair?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
And John heard, people are that is weird.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And John John knows how I feel about this kind
of stuff. So he goes, hey, like this guy doesn't
like your hair. And this is a I'm sorry, scraggly,
cheato eating, basement dwelling control man that came out of
the light to go to a show, which I mean,
thank you for coming.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Quick promotion where we wrote that's a you problem.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
Comes from this conversation.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Conversation, that's how you empower something like that.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
She told me about Tuesday Fat, this.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Image of this guy behind.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Trolling, and she goes, this.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Is really affecting me. And I go, okay, let's let's
figure that out. And so in her closet where she
does her own podcast, and she got us these bohemian
pillows and so we sit on these bohemian pillows and
we write songs.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
Yeah, and we talked about these troll dwelling idiots and
so basically John was like, hey, this from.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He looked out of his cave for one night only
and decided to tell me that. And then John was
just like, hey, he doesn't like your hair. And I went,
oh my god, guess what. Here's the good news. I
don't like your hair either, and he just like looked
at me like that's good, like shocked, and I went anyways,
and then just.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like he probably went home and like.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
The internet, like on his seventy five Finsta accounts and
was just like you know, she mek.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
You have to compare those type of people to dogs,
because it's like whether it's positive or negative attention, you're
giving them attention.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
That's what they want.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And I had to learn that too, with like all
the online kind of stuff and like the body image things,
because like people were saying like whatever all the time,
and I was just like, at one point, I just
had to be like, taiau, you don't have to because
then they go on you go on like their Twitter
and write like Tayfacker, you applied to me on this day.

Speaker 8 (25:15):
And I'm like, oh my god, get a life, right.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Touch grass, I don't know whatever, And I'm so thankful
for because we have such amazing fans at aw in
wrestling in general. But you know, like you cannot make
everyone happy. And I just had to come to that
realization because I'm a notorious people pleaser and psychotic about it.
So it just kind of got your place where I'm
just like, it's okay. It's okay that people don't like.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
My gorgeous sunshine yellow hair because I just don't like theirs.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
So whatever, And like I said, you you empower it.
You take that and you flip the holding narrative. I
want to talk about your very first study. So you
studied with Lances Storm, a wrestler like a wrestling academy
or something.

Speaker 8 (25:55):
Right, the Storm Wrestling Academy.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
What was like your first month, Like what what surprised you?
What were you naturally good at? What were you like, Oh,
I don't know if I could do this?

Speaker 8 (26:04):
He actually really did not like that.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I looked like I was doing ballet all the time
because I was running my feet and I looked too
like elegant, and I'd be like very like like very
too girly, I guess quote unquote, and like I'd go
up they put me up for a move and my
feeter pointed, my legs are straight, and I just look
like I'm in the perfect like gymnastics bos. So I
had to really learn to like relax, and even nowadays
some people still will say, oh I saw that, like

(26:27):
look at that foot, Like that kick was just like
perfectly turned out and then you know, no sickle foot
and perfect but like I'm like, you know, like that
was the hardest for me, but a lot of it
was came quite easily because like you know, I've been
in athletics in the arts my whole life, so you know,
the acting stuff or just the basic like having to
memorize little you know, uh god, why am I like

(26:50):
sequences and stuff like that. So but there's yeah, there's definitely,
and also like just a lot of lingo and things like, yes,
I'd been a wrestling fan, but I.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
Was not like completely obsessed with it, where some people.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Like literally that's all they know their whole life and
they want to be a wrestler, whereas I was like, oh.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
That's cool, Like Trush chattis is hot.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Like I just want to be like her, like you know,
and so like I had to really learn like the
psychology of it and like how you interact with fans
to create reactions and you know, to be a villain,
you have to do this so that the good guy
can get his come upance on you and things like that.

Speaker 8 (27:20):
So that side of it was also pretty hard.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
That's one question I don't think I've ever asked you
in all this as like what was that turn?

Speaker 8 (27:27):
What?

Speaker 5 (27:27):
What what made you want to transition into from that
type of movement to this type of movement.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
I just thought it was cool. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So we know that the wrestling world is very macho. Yeah,
as many female stars that they are on the wrestling world,
there's probably ten of the male wrestling I mean, we know,
I mean even me, yeah, like John Sana and the Rock,
Like I even know that it's part of mainstream culture.
As a woman in this genre. What has your experience been.

(28:07):
What have been some of your biggest obstacles you think,
and I don't know what happens behind the scenes in
terms of sexual harassment, in terms of being paid equal,
you know for male wrestlers, and.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
There's a lot of misogyny.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, and like I feel like you've dealt with that,
I mean across the board, even when you're starting out
and you're making like fifteen dollars in a handshake or something,
you know what I mean, Like you're not making any money.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
It's a gift card.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
I didn't grape pat on the back of a bag
of chicks.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I get paid fifteen dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I you know, as you as you progress obviously, right,
and you are paying. Like the pay thing is always
an issue and it's always discussing because we see a
body at the same really yeah, and we always you know,
and especially now it's a huge topic conversation because of
the WNBA, for example, the women are not making the
same money as the guy is playing for the Lakers,
you know, and they've grown their popularity so much, And

(28:54):
I think that that's what's really cool right now too,
is just that like because the fans are realizing and
kind of getting behind us and like through different movements
and women empowerment and you know, people are starting to
realize like, oh, these bitches can go like and we are.
People are coming to shows for us. We didn't get
like everyone you know loves the guys too, but like
at a certain point you have to realize, like.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
We are bad bitches and we are doing the exact
same things you were doing the same training and show.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
It also takes us like way longer to get ready
because we have hair and makeup.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, No, it's just like we work really, really really hard,
and I think there's been so you know, obviously we're
still like you know in certain situations like trying to
argue or trying to fight for like equal pay and
different companies have different pay structures.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
And all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Uh, but like right now you're really seeing that, like
the women are getting a chance to shine and getting
more main events thoughts because the fans are asking for
it because we're that good. So I'm happy that like
there is progress, are we done. No, I mean, I
don't think that you're ever done in these kind of situations.
But I'm very happy to be part of that change
and having worked in different countries and experienced different types

(30:03):
of people in different cultures and like fighting for these
kind of same things in different places.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
Like, yes, it is a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Better, but it's yeah, we're not done yet as far
as like sexual harassment and things like that like part
of the course, Like it's it's unfortunately something that we've
all probably had to deal with. And I've even had
fans grab me when I'm walking, like doing my entrance
and things like that and physicality.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
You would grab a man, you know that's so weird.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Yeah, like you because you know.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Especially because I'm a bad guy, or things thrown at me,
like I'm like this warm like like like you know,
like and then someone's like it's probably someone peed in
a bottle and threw it out you and you.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
Go great, great, oh love that Like in Mexico fans are.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Crazy, but like yeah, like you just you just all
sorts of like really awkward situations that I've been in
that now as like a more mature and grown up
person that I'm like Oh my god, how did I
survive that?

Speaker 8 (30:52):
Or how did I deal with it?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
And I'm like, you know, if I had a daughter
and she wanted to do this, would I let her?
Like yeah, Like it's really hard to kind of like
rap your head around, But like I just took the
good with the bad, and I never kind of like
veered from who I am and like what I believe
in and the end goal, right, you know, I would
get to one end goal and the mountain would get
higher kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
So that was fresh true.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I'm want to talk to you about your mental and
physical health. As we already talked about. You put your
body through just torture, plus that's what we see in
the ring, but it's also the torture you put your
body through in training. Yeah, but there's also the mental psyche.
You have to you have to boost yourself up and
you have to play your role at all times because
that's what your fans expect you do.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
This.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
You've like you lived in Mexico for a while, You've
traveled all over the place, You're on the go, go go.
How do you maintain your physical and your mental health Physically?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I mean I have kind of like a system now
and like the things that I do and I like
don't really lift heavy anymore. It's a lot of cardio
based body weight exercises because that's what helps me be
in the best ring shape, because that's you know, where
I have to be able to perform in that moment
and for like you know, five to twenty minutes NonStop
and picking people up and falling down and going through
a table and eating tax and like I don't know, God, no,

(32:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
But I feel like that.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, the physicality part of it is actually quite easy
because it's just like I kind of have a routine. Mentally, though,
like it's it's very stressful. I mean entertainment as a whole,
I think is very stressful. I have major issues with
anxiety on different occasions and things. And I've had days
when I'm like super depressed because it's like you know,
you're just like oh my god, yeah, yeah, very.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
High and low and like I'm very happy.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like where we are right now in AW and All
Elite Wrestling, you know that they have mental health people
there to talk to us if we have are having
a really bad days.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Important is that And we're finally talking in the entertainment industry.
We're finally talking about mental health and organizations are actually,
like you said, yeah, providing that, I mean, how many
decades have we been doing Now we're able to talk.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
About and makes it just more comfortable for all of us,
even with our peers and our coworkers, to talk about it.
And you can be like are you okay? And I'm like,
oh my god, girl, da da da da dah, this happened.
There's really stressed and everyone kind of just has a
more like, uh, more understanding, is more calm about it.
No one's being judged. Yeah, Like AW has done a
really good job of just really making people feel seen,
feel comfortable and know that like they're and we have

(33:12):
doctors there obviously as well, and physical therapists and things
like that, because like, yeah, your body and your mental health.
If I'm mentally not in a physician to do something
or i feel off, it's gonna.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
Show no matter.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, you know, And I have to be on all
the time and I'm like this and I'm like crazy,
and I have to make people hate me but love me,
but hate me but love me.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And your psychotomy being the villain is you know, it's
fun and cool, but there's also like sometimes you're like,
don't yell at me.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I'm like, I'm really cool, guys, like stop.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Doing a really good job, don't. I'll try, like.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I try to just be like, you know, Kira is
my real name, and I'm like, you know, Kira entire
two totally different people, and like I'm a customer, so
I'm more like a lever a scorpio cuss and I
always say that Kira is the Lira and Taya is
a Scorfio to try and like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
My questions is how is here the person most different
than Taya Cure's.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
Nice tires a bitch?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, yeah, Like I mean, I feel like Tie in
a lot of aspects, is like a lot of things
that I feel like I would want want to be,
Like like she has so much confidence and like she
just does everything with like her shoulders back and doesn't
give a shit, you know what I mean, Whereas Curre
is more sensitive and can take things, you know, to
heart when I don't.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Here's my sister.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
This is what I love.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Scar.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm like, I've never been tired, I've never been envied,
but when.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I was like drunk in the pool, making you do
ranas with me, like Tya was like, but I right,
Like I've never been scorned by so often she creeps out.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
This is what I love about like the Morning After,
like the music video. We get to see your quirky personality.
We get to see your comedic you know, acting chops,
and it's so fun to see in that environment. Also
with your podcast, you know, we get to see that
different side of you, Jeremy. When you're working with an
artist who has a certain personality, how do you break

(35:12):
through that so that you can be like, hey, drop
the persona because we're going to be creative together. How
do you earn that trust? How do you break through that?

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Show?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't want so this is a two parts because
you must feel that when like I'm going to be
singing and all that, you probably even want to double
down on the persona to be like, I'm mean, how
did you break through that show?

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Go first?

Speaker 5 (35:33):
I don't know if you man actually.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Lady boy stretched today by the way.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Something.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Out, I don't listen. I don't like go in trying
to earn trust from people. Again, what I satan is
like you connect her, You're going I understand that now
and you like learn their story. Obviously we became friends,
and then she said she wanted to do music the
way that I mean other people is through like they

(36:12):
need a new song, and I go in and I
listen to their stories and I create. It's interesting though. Yeah,
everyone puts on a persona and music. It's all authentic.
But like even me, I came up with bleach ex
because I bleach ten she says, because.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I was so grinder bleach ten inches. That's what his
grinders said. There's no verification check on that one.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Stephen doesn't even see my opinis twenty years.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, sorry, we went there.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
We almost shamed her and it was.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
No, no, no, but it's God.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
We were having such a series his conversation, what we do,
but this is what we do? This is this is
I like, some things are so fluid and there's got
to be a connection and you have to somehow find
a way to connect with a story, whether it's you
are you, and it's been her, but you know, I've
gotten to know her. She's one of my best friends.

(37:20):
She has saved my life literally after what happened happened.
She was the one who came and carried me and
took me to her house and like protected me.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
But when someone says I want to do.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Music, it's almost a kiss of death.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
Yes it is, It really is, because I'm like walked
right into the fire.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Oh my god, are you gonna give me a CD?
I don't even have a C.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
In the queer community. All of our friends have a single,
Like it's like every single person I know.

Speaker 9 (37:54):
This is how I feel about it, Okay, But.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
When I get to work with an artist who like
knows how their body is, how their mind is, and
the stories she wants to tell, and I find there's
something there I can do, Like I wouldn't have said
yes to her had I not thought something was there
because your name, she's so talented and my name's on

(38:21):
it too, right, And it's just so cool to like
learn that aspect of them, because this is something that's
completely different from.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Kira or Taya.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
This is a passion, this is a love, this is
a story and outlet.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Could you knows?

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, And it's it's really interesting to like deal with
stuff like that. But I love it, and you just
have to know how to.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
What's right?

Speaker 5 (38:48):
What's wrong?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
What was that first meeting? Like Ty did you feel
like when he walked in the room that you had
to kind of set the standard with your persona, or.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
Like when we first worked on music the.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
First time that you like sat down.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Well, I remember, like everything starts with welly, we're having drinks.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
What he said was but when we started like writing
La Christmas, we were literally just out and like just
spitballing ideas and said it was very chill. And then
we came up with it over the course of like
I can't even really remember like how we find think
it was.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
It was in like fun talking and then I went
to the studio and I wrote the song. When I
did the demo.

Speaker 8 (39:26):
And Bobby came up, Bobby Blueherr and my co host
came up with the ho Ho Hollywood line, I.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Was like, oh, I see a through line now.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
And then when I went to record with him the
first time, I literally dressed up in like a pop
star of it because I was like, I have to
get in this.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's the step into the ring. Yeah, the costume.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Your makeup is clothing and like I said, clothing and
makeup and hair and that whole like it's not only
my armor that I've got on.

Speaker 8 (39:52):
When I've become tie up, but it also just transforms.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Me and gives me a vibe and it kind of
like and I love all that aspect of it so much,
so I knew that was help me kind of like
get in the mood. And I did, and like that's
kind of just been the thing we do now all
the time. But when I performed for the first time,
when was that like a month ago?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, And I got like Jake and Salas to come
and help me and Scarlet Bobo and the dance and
like we performed at the Wild how scary.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
Everyone's like, you need to relax, Like, why are you nervous?
You do this all the time.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
I go, bitch, this is not so different.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I'm singing.

Speaker 8 (40:24):
It's like, oh my, it's a different muscle, you're yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And I was just like everyone is so like when
I'm at TV or when I'm wrestling, like I'm looking
above people's heads or I'm looking at the camera directly,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
Uh, And this, I'm like, I can see you breathing
so close to me, and I'm just yeah, it's just like.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Half the gaze.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
And it was just like but honestly, it was so
freaking cool, Like everyone.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Was so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
When that comes, but I was really nervous and stuff,
but it was honestly like such a positive experience and
everyone was super supportive and like obviously started and I
are best friends and like having her be like part
of it, and like we all like just had created
like this moment, and I'm proud of myself for doing it.
I'm such a perfectionist that even after that, I was like, okay,
but like that could have been better. This could have

(41:16):
been better, and I started nippicking everything, but I did,
like he was like, just like take this moment. Stop
being a tech present, stop it, stop it. But yeah,
it just it was awesome.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
Though.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Now, when in the wrestling world did that click for
you that, just like your performance at Wild you were like, okay,
like I'm I'm now a professional wrestler. I have my fans.
When did that moment of realization come to you that, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't know if I ever like if there was
like a specific moment. I feel like when I like
moved to Mexico and like was living there and working
for Triple A from you.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Were supposed to be there for like a short time
right here.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
Supposed to be for five weeks, I stayed five years.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
How crazy is that?

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Learned Spanish? Literally you Mexico City with her.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
A whole different culture of thing.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, And I feel like I think the moment that
I was most like Okay, like this is this is
where I meant to be, this is like what I'm
supposed to do is when I won my first championship
in triple A. Because I was the first non Mexican
born woman to do it.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
I was also like everyone told.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Me like, you're never gonna be champeda da Like it
was constant, constant berating me, just being like You're not
good enough, You're not this, Da.

Speaker 8 (42:22):
Da da da.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
And so when I finally did it, even like got
my nose broken in the match and everything, and I
was kind of like creating.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
My own little moment in history within the Lucha Libre.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Community, and that just meant the most to me because
I feel like that's when I kind of was like, Okay,
I actually did it.

Speaker 8 (42:37):
They said I couldn't do it. I'm doing it, and
I'm gonna keep going and I'm meant to be here.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I absolutely love that. And we have a lot of
entertainment folks that listen to the show and it's like,
you know, how many times do we hear like you
just have to challenge yourself.

Speaker 8 (42:48):
Yeah, I was not saying I was not taking the no.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
I was not taking that If you want, then you
should do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Like I was just like people were literally, like my
roommate at the time literally was like, girl, you're never
gonna be champed, and da da da da. You're from Canada,
Like you really think they're gonna do a Looterly Reach
championship on you, you.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Stupid blonde girl. Like all like it was some mean
shit that people were saying to me.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
And I was just like whatever, whatever, kind of like
brush it off and I would show up every day.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
I would do what I had to do.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
I was taking eighteen hour bus rides and eating Oxo
bacon wrapped hot dogs, you know, like I was, you know,
I was poor, I was had shitty hair extensions.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
Like I was just like, you know, the.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Passion is that I just that's what sets people. So
many influencers want to be famous, and I'm sure influencers
reach out to you, like how do I be famous,
and it's like, well, that's not the point. What is
your passion?

Speaker 8 (43:38):
And I just like would not take no for an answer.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
And I feel like when I won that first championship,
I think that was the moment that I was like, Okay,
I'm supposed.

Speaker 8 (43:47):
To be here, Like this is my the universe is
telling me.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
And I very much believe in like you know, good
energy and projecting like the things that you want and manifesting,
but also you have to do the work.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I see this as like a big screen movie where
you're in Mexico and you have your suitcases. That's yeah, amazing.
And being a wrestler, it's not like, you know, so
many people want to be an actor. So there's a
field of actors out of work that can support each other,
that understand each other's struggle. Like you know, they're waiters
and they're like, oh god, I missed this audition. Being
a wrestler, it's like where's your support group. Even as

(44:18):
close as your family might be or your friends, they
don't understand that culture.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, And that was the thing, Like I was lucky
to make become very good friends with Like my had
friends like Phoenix and Pentagon and Dagga, Phoenix and Pentagon
are now in WV.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Absolutely you can be a drag queen with all these names.

Speaker 11 (44:33):
By the way, really cute, especially towards the end, like
group of really supportive friends because we were all in
this group together in peril Aguayou who had hand picked us.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
He ended up passing away and it kind of brought
us like closer together and we all kind of like
continued from Triple like Intuluja Underground and working at Impact
together and working at aw together. And then it wasn't
until like yeah, like you know, like it's hard to
make friends in wrestling, especially with girls sometimes because everyone's
just trying to it's a competition. And I'm so not

(45:04):
like a politicker. I just can't be bothered. I just
want to go and be told that you know, you're good,
so you're gonna get that part or like whatever, right,
and so like I just I'm lucky that I was
able to find some really wonderful friends along the way
and you know, meet my husband.

Speaker 8 (45:17):
And then also you know, now living in la I.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Have lived here for seventy eight years now, and like
the group of friends that we have our family basically, uh,
you know, we're all just so supportive of each other,
and we all do such different things and we're all
just like, girl, you can fucking do it. Like it's
always like, so we're all so supportive and everyone's so
different and doing different things.

Speaker 8 (45:36):
But I you know, when you find your tribe.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
You know, I was fresh.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Let's talk about your husband, John Morrison. He's he's a wrestler.
The two of you were paired up before you were
in love. You fell in love while playing the part
of a couple, right, he.

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Wouldn't leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, so explained that because you were paired up and
took be like the ring couple. Yes, when did things
shift that it turned into real life?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Well, I remember like being paired with him, and I
was like, because I had been told that I was
going to be a totally different kind of character on
Luca Underground, and then I got there and they're like.

Speaker 8 (46:19):
No, you're going to be in a group. You're with PJ.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Black Jack Evans and his name on that show was
Johnny Window, and I was.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Like, Johnny Window like John Morrison because I was hot,
Like I remember watching on TV.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Oh yeah, Like I literally made jokes to my friends
being like oh my god, he's so hot, and my
friends remembered how crazy.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:37):
I was like, whoa manifesting.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
That?

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
And then I said, well I got paired with him,
and then I didn't really under like I didn't know
if we.

Speaker 8 (46:45):
Were supposed to be like a couple or if we
were just budds.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
And I remember like one of the first like like
backstage segments we did, I literally asked him and he
can tell you this, like he's like, you were literally like.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
Are we friends? Are we like in love with each other?
Do we flirt with each other?

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Do we not like? And he was just like I
think we're just like kind of friends. And I was like, okay, bro,
he was just making like.

Speaker 7 (47:04):
A gentleman, underplaying as excited.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
This man was following me all over set and like
what everyone would be like, he's circling the makeup chair
like the shark again and like my friend Phoenix and
pending on around that show with me too. And they
were always like I remember one time he came and
like sat with all of them and they were like,
we were on.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Season one and that man did not talk to us.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Now you're sitting here, and now he will not leave
us alone, and he's inviting us out to dinner.

Speaker 8 (47:32):
He wants to bang you, like.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
You could have played the romantic rap, but you're like, no,
he must today romantic welcome yea.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
They hold him back and then like we like we
ended up just kind of like he was flirting with
me and I was learning with him and we ended up.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Like that moment was it did you did you both
decide let's go out to dinner or was it Yeah?
What was the first kiss?

Speaker 7 (47:58):
I read?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I remember real kiss? Nothing. Stage kis trying to like.

Speaker 8 (48:04):
I'm like the first like real date that he took
me on.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
Like.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I was also still living in Mexico City at the time,
and he always joked about how, like I.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
Was excited to see a Trader Joe's.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
They don't and they don't and my mom always loves
Trader Joe's. He took me to like Volcano in Hollywood
or something, and I was like, oh my god, there's
a Trader Joe's and sushi that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
And he always makes me.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
Yeah, and he's just like now he's like, look at you.
You have a house in what's.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Hollywood, two little Pomeranian dogs. You're just making music and
before you were excited Trader.

Speaker 8 (48:41):
Jos Yeah, yeah, I'm creating my own fantasy over here.

Speaker 7 (48:48):
John keeps trying to poach me to do his album.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I calm down, What was that first real kiss?

Speaker 8 (48:58):
I mean, I think it was good.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
What was this situation he went was over dinner was yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I think it was like it was probably like right
after that that dinner and stuff, and then we started
hanging up more. We ended up because I would stay
at this We would stay at like this one hotel downtown,
the Hilton Checkers.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
Yes, of course, and it's a across from the Biltmore.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yes, so the Hilton Checkers. I've I've spent a weekend
there with many.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
Friends for that.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, so that's where could they love that hotel where
they would put us up, Like for when we were filming,
all the people that weren't from l A would stay
in that hotel. But we didn't want people at work
to know that we were hooking up, so we ended
up actually, oh my god, later, you're an idiot, Tya,
Like we all knew, like what are you talking about?
And then like we ended up spending the night at

(49:49):
the Biltmore and in that morning, gorgeous, gorgeous.

Speaker 8 (49:53):
The morning.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
We were like, we have to get back to I
have to at least because he lives in l He
lives in La born and raised. He was going to
go back to the farm and to get his stuff,
and I was like, I got to get in the
hotel before anyone wakes up.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
Of course, we're like walking through the lobby.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And one of our friends, Rancage, totally busted us and
he's like, where are you guys going, And I was
like the gym and we're still like very good President Jim,
and he was like literally just like this like right
like and like it just kind of went from there.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
So the billboards where you take your spouse checkers is
where you take your.

Speaker 8 (50:32):
Mistress and you can walk back.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
And take a good question.

Speaker 12 (50:40):
You learn that it started and then like and then
like are real what he calls like our first first
day was like we went did press in New York
and he actually took me to go see the original
cast of Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Because he knew your theater.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, and so we went to the Hamilton and we
were there all week and that was kind of like
when we were like, oh yeah, like we're like.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Who proposed.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
He proposed to me in Santa Monica on the beach,
and we got married a year later.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
So there's that romance part. There's you know, actors fall
in love on set. What is the reality though, of
both of you in the wrestling industry because there's separate
pressures and those pressures together, you know, how do you
maintain a healthy relationship when you're kind of both from
the same Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
And like it is it is fun because I am
obviously never like alone, which could be good and bad.
Like we travel together, we stay in the hotel together. Yeah,
and like there's been moments where our.

Speaker 8 (51:37):
Characters are not associated with each other.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
There's been a lot of there's time on aw when
I was doing a completely different thing and now we're
back together, and it could be like we have obviously
are artists, and we have like conflicts of like ideas
and butt heads about us and like you said, ups
and down priorities and different depressions, like I just want
to be alone. Yeah, but like honestly, like I wouldn't
want to work with anybody else, Like I try trust him.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
I know he's gonna watch my back.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
You know, he's always he's always like been my number
one fan, and he's so loving, accepting, has such an
open heart. He's such a golden retriever, Like he loves
everyone and just wants everyone to thrive.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
And I'm so lucky to have found I don't know how.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I'm born and raised an LA boy who's just genuinely
like a very good soul.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Born in from LA doesn't mean that like people that
moved to the LA conform and they're the issues.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
The ones that are born in LA are a little
bit different.

Speaker 8 (52:31):
Yeah, he's going to raise your parents still here.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
So all right, let's talk about I don't like that podcast.
Every time I say it, I have to say it
just like.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Wait, I came to support.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
Oh, turn it around.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
There we go. We need hats.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
I hate to say it, but I do like that.

Speaker 8 (52:47):
Yeah, but you guys have flaws. So now I want
flas me and Bobby are gonna.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Get Yeah, flask about it.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
What I love about the podcast. We just see you
just relax, We see you with Bobby, Yes, and we
also get to see your kind of affection for the
LGBTQ community. Again coming from the wrestling world, you know,
queer representation is not the biggest in wrestling. What was
kind of your first exposure to the queer community and
how have you cultivated your role as an ally.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
I feel like when I was wrestling in Mexico, a
lot of people don't realize this, that there are drag
queen wrestlers, and so I was.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Like a lot of people do not know.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, and they're called exoticos, And I was, you know,
always having matches with like, for example, Pimpinella Escaralata, who's
like an absolute legend, wonderful human mamba, like a bunch
of them, and like I was always kind of like
working with them.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
And so I was around a lot of.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Exoticos all the time. And then obviously the most you know,
common thing is like, oh, I watched drag Race or
you know, I was, you know, saw drag shows. My
mom actually took me to like one of my first
directions ever because her grandmother and mother went together to
their first direction.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
What.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, she's fabulous, she's mine.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, she's more two Mexicans and whites. We're taking applications.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, he's like, oh watching this, oh god, But yeah,
my mom took me to Piece is it Pieces?

Speaker 8 (54:33):
In New York, the drag bar pieces insane to me.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah, and I watched my first director there with her,
And I mean, I've just always been inspired by people
who are organically themselves because I feel like, also, I've
always kind of felt like an outsider, and I've always
felt like people are like, she's a little weird, or
she dresses weird, or she has weird you know, she
just likes different things.

Speaker 8 (54:53):
I'm not cookie cutter. I'm not beige, okay, Like I
have layers.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, blairs, And I'm influenced by so many beautiful people
and things and places that I've been. And so you know,
when I am around my queer, wonderful friends, they inspire
me all the time because I just think that watching them.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
Thrive and well, it's gonna make me emotional.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Watching them thrive and watching them be so organically themselves
is so powerful and it empowers me.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Well, I have to tell you for you being so
open about your allies ship having so many fans from
the wrestling world, you know, you're progressing our representation through
being an ally, your openness to uh, being so connected
to the Mexican drug community. That's you being a trailblazer
and being such a great ally, so we thank you

(55:40):
you're doing your podcast.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I mean that's and Bobby, I mean Bobby Blueberry is
like so sweet, say, he's.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Always very Bobby sassy, Bobby. I never met Bobby. You've
never met Bobby just to run the.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
Yeah, he managed the Wild a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I've only passed out the while.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Maybe that's why you haven't met. And I just love
being able to do my podcast Bobby, like we have.
You know, we grew up in totally different places. We have,
so we have so many things that are so different
and then so many things that are so common that
we can talk about. And like I'm always the one
that comes with the facts and he's just over here,

(56:24):
like you know, talking.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Yeah, there's a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
And I just love our energy together. We work together
on every aspect of it. We have meetings every Monday
to like do our uploads and talk about the social
media posts and doing this and doing that and what
we want to do.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Jeremy's outside the window, like.

Speaker 8 (56:43):
He has our location. He's like, what are you guys doing.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Each other's location?

Speaker 7 (56:49):
Where are you at?

Speaker 5 (56:51):
He's like, we have a group a group chat called
Sparkle Covin and the power of three will set you
free and complicated.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
Literally, we have jerseys es say sparkle coming on them.
We're very committed to the bit.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
That's a cultish which I want to I want to join. Yes, come,
I could imagine we are. You're recording your podcast. I
can imagine. Oh know.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
I'm like, I'm five minutes away. I just got done
with my session. I'll show up after about our.

Speaker 8 (57:22):
Laptops at Bobby's house. What are you guys doing? What
are you guys doing?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (57:27):
I like that one.

Speaker 9 (57:28):
Oh, I like that we all have to all of
our houses and just like hi that I get.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
The location doesn't bother me.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
It really doesn't bother me because I feel like.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
It's like a safe thing. That's how I feel about locations.
It's like a safe thing.

Speaker 8 (57:45):
It doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Maybe have a round table about locations and it doesn't
bother me.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
And like I you know, when I don't know where
someone is and I'm just like, oh, okay, yeah, you're
at the studio, Like I know, because I'm like, if
I need to in the middle.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Of nowhere, where is he? Sometimes you're like recording, God.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
What the hell are you doing in mill traveling all
over the country. But yeah, no, we're just uh.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
For me, I'm like, I'm like on Mondays, I'm I
don't want to know anyon. I don't want to talk
to anyone my day. So I'm like, I'm like, that's
basive to me. I'm like, don't you.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
Dare know where I am?

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Mondays? My location off on a Monday Monday?

Speaker 7 (58:24):
Is my that's hissing? Yeah, I literally like because our
culture culture. Remember I used to.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Have like fat Girl Mondays and it was just like
eating as much food as you could.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
It's a p h fat. Okay, like like fat remember fat,
like fat Tuesday or whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Right now, if I want to talk to him on
a Monday, I could text him nine to one one
on a Monday and nothing. But if I show up
as a door dash driver with Panda Express, why yeah,
so Ty, I want to talk about the shift from music.

(59:04):
Music and performing has been a part of your life
since forever forever, So why now music? What was it?
You're like, Okay, now it's time to come out with
a single and do a music video. Why now? What
was that?

Speaker 8 (59:17):
I got bored? No, I just like love challenging myself.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
And like I said, what makes our friend group so
cool is because we all are artists and we all
love working together as well.

Speaker 8 (59:27):
And so when I, you know, when I.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Became friends with Jeremy, or when I, you know, became
friends with Bobby, and we all kind of love these
same things and we're sharing each other's passions with each other,
it makes it exciting to try something like I mean, listen,
I grew up on Britney Spears and the Spice Girls.

Speaker 8 (59:41):
I wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, regular, like what you like. So it's been like
written in the stars for me to have done a
pot thing at some point, and like, I am enjoying it.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
I'm having so much fun. I can't wait to do more.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
I just got signed to new management with Carousel with
Kat and Sam and like we're gonna be putting out
a new Christmas song, coming up with a new music video,
and then we're going to be working on a new
EP in the new year.

Speaker 8 (01:00:08):
So booked and busy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yes, that is amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
I commit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
I commit also for the gays if you have your
sound notifications on Grinder until September twenty seconds.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
Yes, I saw someone a post about it on one
of the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Turners on and turn your sound on, Taylor, turn yours
on sound.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
I don't have grinder anymore, Well download it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
He doesn't need it later to use your phone as
I love.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
It was fresh, But.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
There's also that moment of, like, your fans want you
to be a certain thing we hate for some reason,
we as a society hate when our entertainers do something different.
Remember when j Loo first did music, we were like
and then we're like, oh, we love her, and now
I guess we hate her. I haven't no c So
what did your wrestling fans think about when you're like, oh,
I'm releasing a single because, like we said, a lot

(01:01:11):
of people just put out some auto tune pieces. Yeah,
I mean morning After is not that it is such
a fun pop because I was like, I've been there too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah, I mean it was really interesting just to see
an experience, just to like, how do I word this?
It was interesting and kind of disappointing in certain aspects
because I felt like a lot of people were just
obviously dismissive of it and not like they're like, oh,
she's just doing something stupid again it is Taya, Yeah,
were and then like I think that As time has
gone on, wrestling fans are becoming more and more supportive

(01:01:43):
of it. And my peers also, you know, not my
like direct group of friends which they have to like it, uh,
but like just everyone else too that I work with
and stuff now are just like, oh no, she's like
really doing this, and like, like I said, like I
don't ever half ast anything, and like I really don't,
like you know, going back to like the self can
confidence and being who I want to be in being
my organic self. And I've always just been creative and

(01:02:04):
I get bored and I like making things and I
like playing playing all this with my friends. Basically it's
like it's it's not a job for me.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
And I feel like that's the essence of what being
an artist is. Everything should be fun and.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
Music brings me. That brings me joy, so I should
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
And it takes confidence. It takes confidence to put yourself
out there a different way.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
And I'm being a little bit psychotic, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Are all entertainers. Yes, I'm gonna tell you. Your hosting
skills are so good. When you're like around town, You're
like I was, like, good, I'm tired. I'm reporting from Ethiopia. Yeah,
I can see you anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Hello aw fans, and welcome to making towns with Taiavalcari.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yes, you really are very talented. It's such a joy
to get to meet you and and and get to
know you.

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
Thank you. I'm very happy to talk to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
And Jeremy always speaks so highly of you both, and
so it was army for me too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
So I have no idea what our timing is. We
gotta wrap things up. But Jeremy, your your aspect from
music and let's all you know, chime in on this.
The VMAs were very queer. Yeah, but I also have
to say, and I don't know if it's just me
getting older. I was like, who's that, Who's that? Who's that?

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Well, yes, you're getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Did you even watch them?

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
I did, just such a I did. I watched.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
I didn't get to watch all of them because I
was I think I was talking, but I watched like
parts of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I watched the highlights today.

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
I didn't watch it, but I watched it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
I was working at the club because they were playing
at the club, and then I and then I watched
all the performance.

Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
That's what I want to see.

Speaker 6 (01:03:45):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
So the question is it just seems that we have
less and less like music legends. They honored Ricky Martin.
For him to get the first Latin Icon Award as
a queer man is huge. Queer presence was a lot
of ms. But in turn of the rest of the
performers and the guests and the red carpet people, and
I did like Google, I'm like, I still don't know
their songs.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
Did you get the Madonna drum that she didn't want
to present to Lady Gaga?

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
What? No, No, I don't believe that for her.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
I feel like that was an old thing, right it was.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Madonna at the vance. No, I just watched the performances after.
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I don't think what Donna wants to see it wants
to be seen in last She's so. But my question
is are we having less and less music legends? And
what does the future of music look like?

Speaker 10 (01:04:31):
Taia, Yeah one, Taya.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Trying not to shoot myself in the foot here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
No, no, and you don't have to, but look like
take the stage in Brittany and Gaga and yeah, yeah,
we we just we don't we don't live in a
generation anymore where people cling onto.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Inspiration and hook onto life stories and it's so fast, right,
that's we We lost that with TikTok and Megan Trainer
was the last signed artist that I believe was made
that way. Great by the way, moving on God and

(01:05:17):
I love Tate's performance. I think Tate is a huge performer,
and she is landscaping over what it looks like to
be from and Canadian. We know they make good Canadians there,
but there's not good food in Canada. Relax, no, yeah,

(01:05:43):
but I can't do the first time I heard my
song in the club. But I agree with you, it's
hard to see like what the future of longevity of
music is because everything is just so fast burned, and
it's like, but.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
Right, everyone have fifteen thirty quick, quick, quick, yeah, And
that's why we've made songs from three and a half
minutes to like now it's two minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
How that's worse. You can't even get in it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
So I'm in there and like I want to do
all these parts when I'm doing like something that's for
an American artist, and it's like two minutes, great, two
thirty pushing it, you know, And then I have other
artists who are like, I don't care. I want to
do old Britney Spears stuff. Take it what you want
from who it is. And then and then when I
work on like international stuff, like I'm working on a

(01:06:35):
Mexican boy band right now, they want a four minute song.
When I do K pop, they want eighty different sections.
They want four minutes. Yeah, they they they want to
do the music.

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
K pop is like early two thousands, yeah, and I was.
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
I was right there at the start of the K
pop movement, and I was having this conversation the other night,
like it's so funny how it's all white people in
l that are writing all the K pop songs. But
but not now because they're doing Western. But when I
was doing it, when I got all my plaques, was
very cultural K pop, J pop. Now Mexico is doing

(01:07:14):
M pop, which I'm working on.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
Well, M pop it's coming.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I just told her about this last night. I mean
going back to Mexico City with an I mean I
should be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
City John the typer Belkry should be on the on
the Christmas Mexican pop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Band do it with Ricky Martin. Oh yeah, So to
your point.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
I don't know what the future of music looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I just think the fans are just so fickle, you know,
Like we love Shappele Roman because Pink Pony Cloud. Then
we heard a little grumblings about her and we're like, oh,
she's canceled.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
She's like a Pauladiana. She's the one wonder she's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
But if Lady Gaga were to shave her head and
have a meltdown in West Hollywood, all the gas would
laugh at her. But it's like, how much has Lady
Gaga done for the community whether you like our music
or not. We as fans are just so ready to
rip people down. And we talked about Little nats X
and his breakdown last time. It's like we have forced
him to push the envelope on our behalf to celebrate
sexuality and then he has a little breakdown.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
We all have listen pressure. Pressure is a very interesting demon.
We all get to make our own choices. The way
that people listen is not like when they used to
listen to a Michael Jackson or a Janet album or
a Britney album and listen to a whole experience.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
So it's not the artist's fault.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Look, the artist gets all the doors open and they
make their own personal choices, that's their fault. What we've
done is we've gone into like I need it now,
I want it now, let's move it on culture, and
that's a consumer fault.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
We just know too much about our artists because of
social media. We know what they ate and all that.
Like we knew Judy Garland had a problem with drugs
and booths, but everybody went out to support. I mean,
I'm not taking it's old school star, but that's just it.
We know too much about art.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
It's about accessibility. That's why you saying everything needs to
be fifteen to thirty seconds long. I mean that's why
like the death of the music video, it's Liza was
she had put this whole video the other day and
she if you watched the video, she breaks it down
really simply.

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
It's like there's one.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Point where artists were doing like a million dollar music
videos because that would love that and that would push
the album, that would push I mean, we had Vimo
and all that sort, Vemo whatever the fuck, And.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I think there needs to be a conversation of like
people are doing the same things as they are they're
just doing it on a different level, you know, like
everyone's all making mistakes. I'm fucking up to why is
it so easy to point to an artist's mistake that
Beyonce or Gaga? Like where is that? And then where

(01:09:51):
does like the artistry come in that it equals out?
And like why are we not inspiring people enough anymore?
Because there's too much and the accessibility to make music
and make shitty fucking music the critics so easy now
again what we were saying, like everyone I know and
miss Hollywood has a single, well and I hear that

(01:10:12):
everyone sounded like a Naisally Broadway knockoff singer, and it's
like whatever, and like there's no art here, this is recreation.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I think that it's like a lot of it to
do with the accessibility, Like they're so accessible because of
social because of however the world is nowadays. And I
feel like that mystique of being like, oh my god,
what is she doing?

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
These Cassie directors, these productions, these movies, television and music,
they they they cater it now towards the following versus
the talent. And so it's like you'll have people that
are acting movies that are an influencer. They can't act
for ship but during this movie because the exactly the

(01:10:55):
producers are like, well, they're.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
Like the modeling industry is done. It's all influencer or
A or a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
I know my mom and career doesn't seem to be
taken off.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
Have you seen Oh, I saw you in an underwear
out the other day for Calvin Klein.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Was that AI machine is what it was. We have
to conclude it has been such an honor to get
when Jeremy says I have somebody for you. I know,
I'm just like, it's it's real.

Speaker 8 (01:11:28):
Thank you for having a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yes, And I'll come back anytime you want. There'll be
many times Bobby will be down this street.

Speaker 10 (01:11:39):
Guy, you're down the window, Bobby.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
I don't like that. I don't like that you guys
are talking without me like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
What advice would you have for a woman wanting to
get into wrestling?

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I mean, I think that this kind of goes for
wrestling and goes a long with entertainment in general, Like
you're gonna have to have a thick skin, and you're
gonna have to be your biggest fan because there is
gonna be so many times in your career from start
to finish or even when you pass that where like
nobody believes in you, and you have to really be
prepared to be feel lonely sometimes, but also just be

(01:12:20):
completely obsessed with what you do. You know, and you
can always the stereotypical kind of things like surround yourself
with people that inspire you and like, but honestly that
that also really really helps, Like just be your biggest fan,
make sure you have good people beside you and that
actually truly organically and with whole heart, like.

Speaker 8 (01:12:38):
Believe in you just as much as you do. And
also work your fucking ass off. That's work your ass
off because it never ends.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
And just when you think you got there got to
the end, another chapter begins.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
So the goal plus change. Yes, and Tyler, where can
we find them? Fabu?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
You Well, I'm on social media at the tie of
Alkyri on Twitter as well as on Instagram and TikTok.
I also have Facebook dot com slash Taya Valkyrie, and
you guys can watch the I Don't Like That podcast
on YouTube on Tya Valkyrie TV's channel, as well as
listening to it wherever podcasts are.

Speaker 8 (01:13:14):
Listened to wherever that may be for you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
And we have the season two of Johnny Loves Tyre
coming out this fall, along with keep an eye out
for my new Christmas song and make sure you're.

Speaker 8 (01:13:22):
Listening to my new songs right now. Doll of them,
save them and make a dance with them. I don't know,
have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
In the morning. After just one listen through, you're like, yeah,
you get it yet it yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Well, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
Super fun, Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Your advice for somebody that might have a certain brand
that might want to get into music.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
Follow the art, follow your heart and write and write
and write and.

Speaker 7 (01:13:51):
Do things that inspire you.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
And don't go for trends. Be yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Be yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
It'll be yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It's hard to my t shirt. It's hard to be authentic.
It's really hard to be authentic.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
You get it, really, Yeah, what you want to write
about and don't what people tell you you want to write.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
That's really good advice because if you're writing for the
trend right now, by the time you get it out,
that trend is over. Yeah, And that works.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
When you're there and you're in a certain lane. But
when you're in a development period. You need to just
write about these dumb things. I don't care if it's
a trained car or a cup holder, I don't really
care what it is. Write that song, make it situational,
make it for you, and learn, just learn. You don't
have to be Beyonce right now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
All right, now, where can we find and follow you?

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Blee checks ooh, blee checks Instagram, Twitter, blee check's music.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
I'm out.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
I'm working on the sophomore project, about to go back
on tour. We're doing a Christmas song with Miss Ta
Galley coming out and uh yeah, we'll see you next year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
All right, Stephen, what do you want to say to
out our listeners? What's your week advice? Not weak advice, but.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
We make sure you take out your trash of Fridays.
We would make week advice be he's a double Bobby,
I got you?

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
He does?

Speaker 7 (01:15:24):
That was gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
When two blocks talk to each other, it's just like
a wind tunnel. To me, It's like it's because I
sounded like Adam Sandler, and do you though send a
blueshell anyway? By big advice is to have better jokes.
That's my week advice? And where can people find him
probowing you only Stephen.

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Daylor on Instagram and then Stephen Daylor well dollar, I
guess because if I say Daylor then they're gonna typen
daily daily.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Anyway. Anyway, Well that's all folks. It's always a grab
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Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
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