West Hollywood's Go-Go Boys Prince Joshua & Ronderick, with Andrew Christian

On this episode of On the Rocks, it’s our  Pride Month finale as we take a deep dive into the world of go-go dancing with Prince Joshua and Ronderick as we talk about life beyond the box, coming out, the realities of being a go-go, queer nightlife culture, music, the military, and more! With guest co-host, the Patron Saint of Men's Underwear, Andrew Christian...with your sassy host with the sassy most, Alexander Rodriguez. Raise a glass, it's On the Rocks!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Media.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello, on the Rockers, we continue our pride celebration with
some go go boy love, getting all steamy and sexy
with West Hollywood's finest Prince, Joshua bringing the movies, movies, moves,
and the music. Too much vodka already, and Ron Derek,
who's carving a place for himself in nightlife after the Military. Yes,
we're got to talk about that with my guest co host,
someone who knows a thing or two about go go boys,

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the patron Saint of men's underwear, Andrew Christian, and meet
your sassy host with the sasy most. Raise a glass,
Let the drinks begin. It's on the Rocks. Life is
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Speaker 3 (00:41):
Starving to death. I'd like to propose a toast.

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guest co host making his return. Coming from humble beginnings,
Andrew Christian has created a fashion empire that has been
thrived for over twenty five years, being a trailblazer for
men's underwear and sensual fashion. He celebrates sexuality and diversity
in his designs. He's appeared on TV on Drag Race,
Millionaire Matchmaker, and The Jani Stickts and Modeling Agency and more,
and he has made men's Undie's mainstream. To kick off

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Pride Month, he announced that he's retiring and his company
is closing shop. Listen to our last episode to get
the full tea and I do mean fault Ty here
to give me a hand with the go gos and
who brought some samples? By the way, please welcome back
Andrew christ Chad.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yes, I'm so excited it's you now.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
You have been part of many photo shoots because you've
done the photo shoots for your models, but you've been
in many photo shoots yourself. I have what are your
top tips? Because we know that even in your early days,
you like to get models that were not necessarily models.
So what tips would you give people on their first
day on a photoshoot.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Just to have fun? Like models think they have to
be so serious, and like what resonates with our models
is that they're not real models. They have fun and
that shows through on camera in the video, Like this
is not like a Paris or a Milan runway show,
like you're selling underwear. You want to be hot, you
want to be funny, you want to be authentic.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think that's what met has
made your brand so lasting, is that is authentic. It's playful,
it's fun, and it represents all different kinds of personalities. Yeah,
you want to be sledting, it's next Sally fine. You
want to be corporate and eco friendly?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Okay, yeah, and we've never hired we've never hired a
model from a modeling agency, well except on Joanna Stickinson,
but yes.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, I want to know what is life life like
on a typical day in the office. I mean, like
naked guys running all around and you're just like how
big is this pouch? Like, like what's happening?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
It's managed chaos on a daily basis. There's always something
going wrong Yeah, yeah, with like production or like models
doing something they shouldn't be doing.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But that's fun. But do you guys have like pizza
party Fridays? Like are you corporate like that?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Or no? I do?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Bring on? I do bring donuts in on Fridays?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
What gang is gonna eat a donut? I can't nder
Christians factory.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
I'm just trying to sabotage them.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Did just hit your head on the microphone? Who models hard?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Smart?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
My god man? Damn? Okay, So that's fun. Yeah, yeah,
you're going to miss all of that.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I'm gonna miss it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Now do you get to see because I know in
the early days you were the one that was not
just making the clothes, but you were putting them in
the packages and sending them out too. When like when
I buy stuff, do you see my name and the labels?
And you're like, no, okay, thank goodness. In the past,
have you have you been like that bitch a double cider?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
You know what's kind of funny. Also, like when the
pandemic first started, we shut down, so I was in
the back actually picking orders, and I would get an
order and I would start picking in and I could
have imagine in my head, what do this customer look like?
I love that who it was? You know, are they
like a pup or are they a twink? Or like

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you can you can you get it? You get just
from what they're ordering, you know what they And.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
During COVID, everybody explored because we were home alone, we
were zooming in with strangers sometimes, you know, just to
build that fund. But as we talked on the last episode,
many of your customers are able to explore their sexuality quietly.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
We talked about businessmen wearing your lingerie pieces under their
three piece.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Suits or maybe you know, maybe it's like a bridge
piece for them actually like to come out with their
fetish and.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yes, get more in touch with that, all right, And
again we had we talked about this on the last episode.
But everybody's asking your closing chop after your final runway collection,
when should people be buying.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
All of their stuff now?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
But is there gonna be like like the last week
where everything's going for like five dollars.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I haven't even thought about that.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I better get a heads up just for my broke low.
I'm afraid of the bro glow like leaving.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a lifetime supply of Roglow.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I will come for it.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Here's the funny thing, though you're Broglow. I think it's
like twenty two bucks. I have been to every other
mac Nordstrum whatever for like one hundred dollars bronze or whatever.
It doesn't work. I look like George Hamilton or like
Michael Jackson on a bad day.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
I was very hands on in developing.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's so like, look, How'm not trying?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I look.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, how dare you're Tony? So go go boys? You
have a very close relationship with go go boys. You've
traveled all around the world at Pride events.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I do so many events with so many go go boys.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And you know, I've had my fair share of events
with go go boys. I never get desensitized, though, you
do you ever get like there's butts and bulges and
hot guys like it's hot? Do you ever get like
were you're not even affected by it anymore?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
No, especially if they're like new and different and you
haven't seen them before like fresh meat. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
you're in a new city, new boys.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Now we know that you came out a little bit late,
not too much later. But do you remember your first
time you saw a go go boy face to face?

Speaker 5 (07:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, probably, oh, probably.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
My first time would be at Mick would have been
at Mickey's.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, Mickey's is in everybody's legacy.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, but I.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Have to tell you during like when I go to
different cities and do these fashion shows. The best, the
funnest part of the party is backstage with the go
go boys. That's where all the fun is because you're
there with the hottest guys.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
They're in all states of undress.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
And you're just having fun. Yeah, Like, it's way more
fun than being out in the club.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
With Oh do you remember the event that we did
at Riches. We had drag queens and goga boys backstage
and we certainly enjoyed our free drinks. Yeah, anyway, thank
you mitches for that.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Thank you Ryan.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah. I haven't been asked BacT, but you have anyway.
All right, well, let's get this show on the road.
Let's talk to our real go go boys of What's Hollywood.
We're gonna get deep down and personal. Please welcome Prince Joshua,
making his debut on the Rocks. After receiving a Bachelor
of Arts and Fashion Marketing and Management, Prince Joshua moved
to Hollywood from Phoenix to continue to blend his passion
for dancing, fashion and entertaining and to pursue a music career.

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He's now cultivating his talents as a rapper, recently winning
the Best of La local musician Award from the Los
Angeles Blade, releasing a slew of music and music videos.
He's a fixture in the go go scene, and he
started at the age of twenty one, by the way,
as a go go and as a bartender. He also
won Go Go of the Year at LA Blade's Best
of LA Awards show. Everybody was upset he won so

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many awards. But the photers I've chosen, please welcome Prince Joshua.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
What else on the rocks? Thank you for having Thank
you Alexander.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I actually started at twenty personally go go dancing, but.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Legally though, oh, because they wouldn't let you in the bar, right.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Oh, I was there at twenty legally, I mean, well
maybe not legally.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
But I was there working, Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I wasn't drinking, though, I would like our audience to know.
Two minutes before we started the show, he was like this,
good morning, Why and now you're like, boom, where's your
only fans?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Then?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay? Also joining us, we have Ron Derek hails from Louisiana,
among many others, said he is that he's moved around
from moved to LA after serving in the military. Yes,
we're gonna talk about that after and he's now celebrating
two years of go go dancing. He continues to thrill
and tease being an asexual sexual beast. We're gonna talk

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about that too. What does that even mean? We're gonna
find out. Please welcome Ron Derek.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I wish I had a great one, Behinda, But after
I'm like, I'll do that. Small boy from a small town.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm excited to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Not such a small boy we've seen. I want to
know from the two of you, what was your first
exposure to a go go boy.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Hmmm, well, I will say actually two years ago when
I actually moved here.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
That was your first time with a go go boy,
seeing a go boy face to face.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm a very small town Louisiana, so like there was
no LGBT community from so everything I know was from
social media. That's why, like when I joined the Army.
After I got out, I was like, don't want to
move to New York or LA. And again I saw
West Hollywood and I was like, packed my vehicle up
and I was like, West Coast.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Do you know when I moved to West Hollywood, I
didn't know that West Hollywood was Boystown. I worked at
City Bank which is now Rocos and I would enter
from the back, so I never saw like all the
gayness because I lived.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Entering from the back's pretty gay.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
How did you not know this?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Because I was such a like I was scared and
I would come from Orange County and I was in
banking and where I lived. You didn't have to turn
on set. You never made it to Santa Monica. You
just went into the back parking. There was a whole thing.
It took me like and I was like, why there's
some of the gay guys here at the bank. And
my friend's like, have you not been across the street?
And it was Mickey's. It was rage, it was the
abbey and all that.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I was like, oh my lord, wow.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
But it takes a lot of guts to just decide
to pick up and move to a city like La.
You just had to get out.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Absolutely And did you know did you know anybody in
La when you moved here?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Absolutely no. I didn't know. When I literally just had
like a vehicle full of all my stuff and I
was just like, Okay, I found this place, this apartment,
got it, moved here, and it was it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
It takes nuts. I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Hey, I'm in areas, so you know if I think
and I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It, Like what was that drive? Like though everything you
own is in your car and you're stopping at gas
station to gas station, did you think you know what,
I should just head back or Nope?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Not.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
At one point, coming from Colorado during the winter, it
was so crazy because like I loved Colorado. It was
a bas snow storm. Then drawn through the other states,
it was like heavy winds and rains, and I think
I got to like what the edge of Utah or something,
and like I was like on the side of this
mountain and it was like snowing at like twelve at night.
Couldn't see anything here.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Like why are these Mormon boys at this truck stop?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh God? So, like I drove ten hours straight because
after I was mentally exhausted, so I stopped in Vegas.
I was like, Okay, it's like four hour drive now.
So I'm like stop and I think I said, like
the Virgin Hotel. Okay, I think that's what it was.
And I was like, well, the next morning, I was
like straight to La but there was like a little
sandstorm all the way there. I was just like, what
is going on with this trip? Like all the elements
we like exactly, Yeah, this is an adventure. So I

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was like made it to LA. And when I got
to La during that time, it was raining really heavy
and everyone was just like oh no, no to get this
type of rain. I was like, I guess I brought
from Louisiana. Same thing with the hurricane.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So you're like really connected to the elements then yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
all right.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
And stop you though, now look at you.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah I'm here and you didn't have a job when
you came to La. Oh no, so what did you
do your first week?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
What was what was the hardest thing for you to
adjust to?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh? Definitely a culture and the food. Again, I'm from
Louisiana where everything is like deep riding heavily season and
when I.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Moved out in Hollywood, no I do not, sir.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yes, And I was just like what is all this?
Like I didn't even know what gluten was. I didn't
know about like, I didn't know about anything. So I'm
just like no, no, no, no. And I was like, okay,
oh a burger king. So I'm just like I don't know, Like,
but you can have it your way. It was an adjustment. Yea,
I can, and I kind of do sometimes.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So it's very funny because on stage you have this, uh,
this personality. It's very sexual, it's playful, it's confident. You know,
you're tall, you're tall in other places, but you have
that small boy kind of shyness to you.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I guess so said it is kind of playful because
when I'm go go dancing, that's what it is. Like
a lot of people look at me and they think, like,
I'm very sexual, but I'm really not. And like, I
don't know if it's going to be TM I on
a podcast, but that's.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
What a podcast is, fe my friend.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yes, I actually like people think like, oh, like you're attractive,
you do this, but like I've actually I lost my
virginity at twenty three years old in the military when
I join.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
And I love how it's in the military, right, that's
to be one of their posters joined the military lose
your riginity sounds like a porn script.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yes, it's a lot of stuff that HAPs in the military.
But yeah, and actually my moly had twenties six partners
from twenty three to now thirty. In my entire life?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So is that a lot?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Does anybody think that's what I'm like, I don't know.
Like moving here, people are just like trapping digits, and
I'm just like, okay, I'm in adult dish. I haven't
even hit fifty yet, so I'm just like, y'all have
fun with that when you.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Say twenty six. So that seems like a lot.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Probably, But since moving here, people are just like triple digits.
I'm just like, how in one week?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, it was fresh. So when you saw your first
go Go boy? What was it like?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
It was exciting a little bit of jealousy because I'm
just like, Okay, how do I do that? How do
I look like that? I want to do that? Yeah,
and so I went into Mickey I was like, how
do you do that?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Mickey's was Andrew's kind of and that was mine.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
To Actually, I take it back, it just hit my
memory just was it rage? No, it was Studio one.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
It was a huge gay club in West Hollywood. Massive
where across the street from the Abbey, there's a big
warehouse right there.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I've heard of that, oh, like factory and all that before.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
It was factory. That was the first an I'm older
than you.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, you're giving us like biblical bars.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Because because they would have eighteen and overnight and I
would go on eighteen and overnight.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I think that's what and I know Rocos is trying
to have it, but I think clubs need to get
back to eighteen and overnight.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
And Mickey's used to have an eighteen and overnight.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, I remember for different reasons, but okay, I think.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's important for that because then it gives people who
are in the community a chance to kind of start learning,
you know, more about the community, getting involved in the community,
being part of it. That's why, you know, when I
was twenty, I was trying so hard to get into
the bars because I didn't have a community. I had
moved from Idaho to Phoenix, where Idaho.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Had such and that's a weird move too, definitely what
inspired that.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Move from Idaho leaving potatoes for cactus.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I had to get out of the potatoes.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
I was.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You know, I love a potato. I don't know if
I would I don't know if i'd make that journey.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
I love to eat them, but it's like I don't
want to grow them. I don't want to be around them.
It's like one of those things like I felt like
a potato and I wanted to leave, like I don't
want to be I wanted to be something better, you know.
And so it was like it was all on me
to escape the the pressures of the religion I was
grown I grew up with, and the societal pressures that

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you know, people in Idaho put on you to not
be yourself, to not be queer, to not you know,
be genuine in any way, and to follow the mold
of what they expect you to be. So it was
just my chance to to escape all of that and
to find myself. And that's what I really did in Phoenix.
I feel like when I moved there, I was like, uh,
you know, nineteen, I was still like fresh into the young,

(16:40):
fresh into the gay scene, like I had only come
out three years ago, and still figuring it all out
what I liked and what I was into and.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Learning about the community. And I would.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Always express myself at raves. That's really where I fought.
I saw my first go go girl. She wasn't a boy,
but I saw a go go girl, and I was like, damn,
I want to.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Be up there.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I want to dread them.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I want to be free.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I want to I want to you know, express myself
through dance in front of a crowd in you know,
a musical setting. And then, you know, as time went
by in Phoenix, I started to make friends. I started
to go out. I made a lot of friends at
Phoenix Pride. And because you know, being under twenty one,
where do you go to make friends when you're gay.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It's so hard and you have to rely on apps
or you have to rely on you know, social media.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Well you had apps. I mean we didn't even we
had like AOL chat rooms.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
And at least I did have those, you know, which
allowed me to connect to a few people which I
then made friends with at Phoenix Pride and just started
a huge community by you know, going to Pride creating friends.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
That's where I ended up meeting someone who I ended
up dating.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
He was a go go boy, so that was like
my first go go boy, and then he introduced me
to the scene. He brought me, you know, as a
as a twenty year old into the bar. I started
dancing just because he knew the promoter and he was
able to get me in there, even though I wasn't
twenty one just to work because I wouldn't I wouldn't drink,
I wouldn't do any of that.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I just wanted to work. And so that's kind of
where I started.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Was like before I even got to actually see one
in action, I kind of became one.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
And it was because I dated one.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Was that kind of weird being twenty years old and
go go dancing in a gay bar, like did you
ever feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Or as soon as I got on that box, I
knew it was where I wanted to be. I wanted
to be in front of everyone. I wanted to be dancing.
I like, I've always loved this stage. I grew up
in theater, cheerleading, karate, gymnastics.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I always love being in front of people doing things.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And so as soon as I got that opportunity, because
I've been wanting it for so long, as soon as
I got it the first night, I remember being like,
this is what I want to do, Like this, I'm
so glad I'm here, Like I don't care if I
make any tips tonight or not. I'm just happy that
I'm here and I'm dancing and having fun because like.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was never allowed to be that free.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I was never allowed to like have that moment of
just like I get a feel my full faggty fantasy
dancing in front of all these people and they're enjoying it,
and they're and they're you know, they're out here supporting me.
That's crazy because from where I'm from, I would I
would be beat.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Up, you know.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
I think that makes a big difference in a go
go boy if they're having fun and like, because sometimes
you see a go go boy and you can tell
they're not into it. They may be live, but they're
not into it.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Or they're so egotistical they're like, look at me and
I'm so hot, it's like, no, you gotta dance.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
I think that's a problem with a lot of the
you know, straight dancers that we have is they are
there for the bag. They're only there for your money,
and they're harder money. They don't want anything else in
that club. They don't care about our community. Some of them.
I'm I'm not saying all because there's some really cool
allies out there. Shout out to y'all allies who are
actually there for us, because y'all who put money back
into our community and actually support us in times of hardship.

(19:41):
We so we we we root for you and we
allow you to be in our spaces.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
But to the other ones who just stand there and
you know, yeah, they don't. They're not having fun. They're everyone.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
They're just bouncing their erection that they spent so long
upstairs getting.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Come down and show.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Like reading Trump's tweets are like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's very confusing to me because it's the most gay
thing to see a straight dude in the corner jerking
off and then go down and show his boner to
all these gay people and get money, but then get
upset when people ask him are you gay? It's like, bro,
do you understand the setting you've put yourself in and
what you're doing right?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well, we actually have some hot topics we're gonna talk
about in terms of being a go go dancer, and
it was like, how much it is too far and
the whole sexuality part of it.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
And that's kind of one of the reasons I've never
used straight models. I always use gay models.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
And that's real and that's real.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
And we've always noticed that, like you have always picked
like the gay it boys or turned just beautiful men
into gay it boys, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
So making the move because you became quite popular in Phoenix.
In fact, they still bring you back there many many times.
Charlie's and Phoenix. I love Charlie's and Phoenix. Hi Charlie's.
But what made you then move to Los Angeles?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
So my sister and I my sister. She's trans. Her
name is Rose Montoya. She's an advocate for the trans community.
Shout out to Rose, Love you girl.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
She's been one season.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
She's just been speaking on so many panels.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, but her and I wanted to take that jump
because we were ready for what's next. She had lived
in Seattle for a long time, very progressive, you know,
Seattle went to That's where she went to school at
Seattle University, and so that's where she really found herself.
And I found myself in Phoenix. And then we both
had grew into these people who we understood who we are.

(21:34):
We were doing things for the community, we were part
of our community. We were like shining as hard as
we could that we felt like there was no more
room to grow. And I felt like I was a
big fish in a small pond and so we both
decided to make the move to LA because we knew
that would be a place where we would be pushed
to grow, where we would be in a huge pond

(21:55):
and then become small fish, where we would be allowed
to grow bigger than we already are. I've already surpassed
anything the little boy from Idaho next to the chicken
coop and potato farm could have ever imagined I could achieve.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
So at this point, I'm like, let's move to LA.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
There's like, if we've made it this far, we can
go there and let's see how far we can make
it there, because like, anything's achievable, Anything is attainable if
we just work hard enough for it. And we've been
working our asses off, so let's go. Let's go work harder.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
I have to say it's quite remarkable because I first
met you in Phoenix, yeah, years ago when you were
go go there and watch your.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Growth like the little me who met you.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, like moving to LA and you know, venturing into
your music career now and like I don't know, I
just I like watching your career like blossom.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I love that you've been able to see it too,
because like I've always been like an Andrew Christian, like,
I've always loved you always, and even like you knew
it because the first time you came to Phoenix, or
not the first time you came, but first time I
got to set songy Phoenix, I was like, oh my god,
I was so excited, and you let me come into
your booth and we're kikiing. You gave me some merch.
I was just living, like having the best time of

(23:07):
my life. And it's so cool because you gave me
such a confidence and have always done that to so
many people in our community to allow ourselves to just
genuinely be ourselves and live authentically.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And I appreciate you for that.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Oh thank you. I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
He already brought your free stuff. Calm down, I want
to know and getting into like, we know La can
be a very difficult circle. When I first moved to
La so many years ago, it took me about six
months before I clicked and I only moved from Orange County,
which is like an hour away. But we know it
could be a tight circle. It could be full of
mean girls. Nightlife can also be very succoming in terms

(23:42):
of getting too much involved in booze and drugs and sex.
How did you kind of break into it? Because you
become a mainstay in LA and around Derek. You know,
you've been around for two years and you're at all
the different parties and all the different clubs. How did
you kind of infiltrate that La circle so to speak?

Speaker 1 (24:00):
To be honest, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You're like, who me I would be.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I would just be there, like at home or something.
Someone would messing me on Instagram and be like, hey,
we saw you dancing, like we love your energy, we
love your vibe. Would you like come dance for us?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
And I'm like, exactly why because his vibe?

Speaker 4 (24:14):
You have such a good energy every time you're out
in the bar, like every time you're on the.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Box, all of it. Like you you never come with
like weird energy.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
You always come correct. You're always like genuine and having
a good time. And that's what people want to see.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And that's try to give because I like to entertain.
That's why when I'm dancing, it's just like I see
these guys who just like standing, I'm just like, can
you get the box please? Like I'm out here trying
to do like Acount, I'm trying to do choreography and
all this you're.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Talking counts now, okay, they're thinking eight lines and you're doing.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
When the song comes on, like I'm giving energy like
and sometimes even when people don't tip, like I'm just like, oh,
you're gonna go tip the guy who just standing there,
I'm like, thank you. I'm over here like sweating and
swinging from the pole like I'm on the ground, like
throwing it back, you know, shaking it. And it's just
like again, people they see me and they see that
and they're just like, hey, when to come down to
the ego, do you want to say a bullet bar
riach in the San Diego like palm springs. I'm just like, sure,

(25:05):
thank you. I'm glad that you guys see that I
actually enjoy doing doing what I'm doing because I'm like,
I like giving in, like entertaining people, because that's what
I'm here for it to be. Ay Go dancer. Like
if you want to pay or go tip a someone
who's just gonna stand there, and I'm like, you do that,
but I'm gonna give it my all on the stage
for these thirty minutes because I'm here to entertain you,
like you don't got to give me a dollar or anything.
But I like having fun and that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay, let's address a real quick hot topic. A dollar
is not enough anymore, right with the economy and everything.
People give you a dollar and they're like boo, it's
like no free.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Touching, Like it's been a dollar forever. That's why forever,
Like the economy's changed like a dollar.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Come on, listen, I don't care if you don't have
a dollar to tip me. But if you're gonna like
stare at me, like in a in a way that
I can tell you're staring at me, if you're gonna
videotape me, or if you're gonna want to touch me,
then there there's gotta be some coin involved, even if
it is just one dollar. But if you don't have
that dollar, I don't care. But do something like say wow,

(26:04):
like you're an incredible dancer, thank you, or like you know,
kindness goes a long way.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Don't assault me, don't.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Grab me, don't you know, spank me, don't any of
that unless you know you're you're coming right, like come
with the right energy. And so in my head, it's
like I get it. We're all living in hard times. Like,
I don't think a dollar is enough at all. No,
but I do understand that some people don't have that
and they have They only come to the bar because
they are looking for community, you know, they want that,

(26:29):
and so I'm here to entertain them.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm getting so nice to entertain.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
So in my head it's like if they could show
something nice, they could show some kindness.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
A compliment goes a long way. Pretty boys love to
be told they're pretty, and they don't get told.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
It enough because everyone thinks they already.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You make a post. I went to the post office today,
Oh so lot I lock to stamp, Like, come on.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
No, but I agree, I don't think a dollar is enough.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
But in other sense, you know other there's other things
you can do that could make our day, you know.
So it's like about that next time you see a
go go boy or girl dancing and think about how
can I pay them, you know, a compliment or something nice.
If I don't have money, And if you do have money,
we got venmos, we have cash app, we have Zell. Like,

(27:13):
I know you have money in your bank account, maybe
you don't have a dollar on you, but you could
sell me one you could catch at me.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
But you're saying, like, nobody ever has cash anymore. The
last time I took out cash, I can't even remember
I got cash stickers now, like I have my tattooed
on my as that.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right now, And like do you ever have those people
that like come in like you and it just be like,
oh you have, But so I don't have any money.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
No, I don't let people touch me if I'm going
high kicks and splits and if you can, if you
can get close enough to me, it's because I see
money in your hand. Otherwise I'm twirling and spin and
shaking and you're not getting close to me the all.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Time, Like people come in, it'll be like, oh, you're
so hot. Sorry, I don't have a dollar.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Though, so weird to say, like that's so weird, and.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I don't like that, thank you, and I just turn
around just like thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
So I have a question for the both of you.
Do you feel like being a go go boy you're
able to like command the crowd, like change their mood
and like and how does that make you feel?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Second part to that question, I feel underappreciated and undervalued
by customers by the bar by promoters, by pretty much everyone.
I feel like we're at the very bottom of the
totem pool in everybody's eyes. But if you took out
Go Go Boys from every single club setting, the bar
would be so boring and no one would be dancing.
Because in a school dance, or in a bar, or

(28:44):
in any type of dance setting, you need one person
to start the mood.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You need someone to start the dancing. That's what go
Go Boys are for.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
We're for aesthetic, we're to entertain, but we're also to
start the party so that people have the energy from
our energy too.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Parties to dance to have fun. So in my head,
it's like we.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Are at the very bottom of like the payroll, we're
at the very bottom of like in any in any
type of conversation or in aspect, we're at the very
bottom of the totem pole. And people don't give us
enough credit or props for what we do because we
work so hard. We are in the gym for an
hour to hour and a half a day, maybe more,
but that's what I do, and then we dance for

(29:25):
four hours to five hours a night like within sets.
Of course, we get breaks, but it's like we're working
so hard to entertain people, and then it's not even
that it's off time, like we're getting haircuts weekly, We're
going like we're grooming ourselves. We're making sure that we're
like on point for everybody, and we do all this

(29:46):
for you to maybe give us a dollar, you know
what I mean. So it's like I feel like we
are the reason why these bars are having fun. We
are the reason why customers are dancing. We're the reason
why people are, you know, partying.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
I feel like you make it comfortable for people to
start dance when maybe they wouldn't exactly just to.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Come in the door. We know that was telling me
what was having a real difficult time right now filling spaces.
And so I've been in that crowd. I'm like looking
in and like there's nobody there's I'm even a go
go boy. No, I look in there's a go go
bay giving it. Like that's good energy. I'm gonna go
put my money.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
My point.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
I think I think go go boys are just as
important as the DJ, if not more important.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Hundred percent percent, because you could not have a DJ
and you could just play a playlist. But if the
go go boy is giving enough energy and fun, people
were gonna come in.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That was fresh.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
When I work at a bar and it's empty, I
go outside and I stand in front, and I try
and get people to come in because them seeing me
a go go boy out front is going to pull
customers into the bar. Even if I'm not even dancing,
if I'm on my break, just standing there smoking a
joint or just chilling talking to the host, whatever, they'll
come in because they see me. And so it's like
it's as simple as that. And I feel like bars

(30:56):
don't realize like how valuable we are. They don't treat
us as such at least, And I can say that
for all of them, Like all of them, we're at
the bottom of the totem pool. I love all the
bars that give me opportunities.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I love all of you know.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
I shout out to all of them who who hire
me and book me because I love what I do.
But I do, you know, I do feel that way
at the end of the day that people don't realize
like we are the show. We are the reason why
people are there. Maybe your drag show, you know, or
whatever else will bring people in for sure, But on
a regular night when you just don't have anything going on,

(31:27):
and you want people in the bar. The go go
boys are what's going to be giving all of the
attention and energy to your customers.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
So you're saying, instead of like having you think I
should start.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Like your own bars.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
This is your next venture.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Listen, listen, listen, Go go go brunch instead of drag brunch,
Go go bingo instead of drag ringo.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
This is something I've been talking about with like different
people in West Hollywood, is that I think it's time
to kind of like give gay boys a moment because
it's always about drag queens.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's always about Rue Paul girls, it's always about but
we love, we do love.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
But like, let's let some gay boys who are just
you know, gay boys, go go boys or you know
MC's or gay rappers or whatever it is, upcoming artists.
Let them have some some opportunity, let them host things,
let them have their own parties one hundred go go
brunch or go go shows.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Stuff like that, male review shows.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
I don't understand why I think we should have a
TV show that focuses, you know, on gay men, not
just drag queens, you know, separate.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
And I've never understood and I've never go go boys
of weeh yes, And I've never understood why Wes Talllywood
doesn't have male burlesque. We don't have a male strip
show that you can incorporate singers and all that doesn't
have to be just about stripping. But like the old
fashioned male burlesques, why don't we have that. There's so
much talent, and you know, we know every go go
boy has something else that they do, and we're going

(32:57):
to get into that, but it's like one hundred percent
agree every bar has like three drag shows a day,
and you know, protect our dolls, protect our drag queens.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
One also give give us from variety though aren't doing drag.
But still in the community was tolly Wood used to
be so different. If you wanted a certain naughtiness, you
would go to a certain bar. If you wanted to
class it up with a martini and a date, you
went to that bar. You wanted to pick up young
twunks for the night, you went to that bar.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
And now it just become everybody's trying to do the
same thing at the same time and it's not working anyway.
We'll talk about that for a lot. So here on
the show. We also talk, especially during Pride Month, we
talk about our our coming out and our acceptance of
our sexuality. When did both of you first realize that
maybe you weren't like other boys? And what's your coming
out story?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh? God, mind, it's gonna be very.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Cue the Musicron, Derek. I know it's been a while
since you've been with a man, but put the microphone
in front of your mouth. Twenty six times and three decades? No,
seven years, right, yeah, twenty six. I'm gonna have to
do the math on that. I'm terrible at math.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, min When I first realized it, it was,
I say, I was ten years old and then a
small town too.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yeah, and my.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
First the first man that I actually had a crush
on that when I realized it was Tom Selick.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh in those shorts, are you kidding? In that mustache?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, So that's why I kind of have a thing
for like mustaches.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Like, I don't know if it was like you're too young,
It must have been the reruns of Math. Yeah, yeah,
I was.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Going in ninety five, so yeah, I was like, what
ten and two thousand and.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Five ninety five?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, so like same and that's not realizing like ever
since then, Like I had this thing for like mustaches
on man, like that's that's what I really like in
the man. I don't know why. Again, I think it's
because of Tom Selic and like, man, so young, you
haven't realizing at that time. But yeah, really I was
just like and when I realized, I was like, I
am not like these other people and the and like
people you know, you're in your scooling, people make those

(34:55):
jugs be like, oh, like are you gay? And You're
just like no, and like they just keep asking and
I'm like and even my family would do the same thing,
be like oh he's a punk, he's just this and this,
and I'm just like okay. So they kind of made
me very quiet, shy and reserved for a long time.
That's why when I did decide to join the military
years later, I didn't tell my family. I just like

(35:16):
signed up and left and then telling them anything.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
So you posted this the other day on social media.
How do you not tell your family that you joined
the military and somebody that's questioning their sexuality, Why would
the military be your first choice?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Because I was poor and it was one of those
things where It's just like, hey, sign up, you want
to get out this crazy poor town, Like, well, help
you do that. You have free housing, you have free food,
like get your vehicles.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I was like, you can a good uniform that fits well. Yeah,
so like surrounded by man with ustaches.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah so yeah. I used it as a stepping stone
because I was like, I don't want to make it
a career really unless I really liked it, So I
use it as a stepping stone. That's pretty much what
I did. I was just like, Okay, you gotta help
me get out. I made a place so I need
to be and I want to be at and I
did my contract after that, and then that's when I
moved to LA.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I was just like, what was your experience though in
the military, because we talk about queer people in the military.
It's such a hot button. I remember the time of
don't ass, don't tell, and it was like, well, that's
kind of dangerous too, But I also know many queer
men have gone through the military, and there are so
many queer stories that have happened with supposedly straight people.
What was your experience and did you have this constant

(36:27):
fear of being kind of persecuted.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Not at all, even though I was out it by
a certain person who is reis dirt and shouldn't be
talked about.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
But they're here today.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, yeah, we're not good. No, that's when I first
joined my unit, and like he was married to a
woman and he was going through some legal issues. That's
why he's in a place he's at now. But other
than that, he was on grinder. I was on grinder,
Like he was a blank profile on base. Yeah, we
were in the same unit.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Did you have your face on your oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
At that point, I was like, I'm not in Louisiana
no more. So I'm like, what's your user name? I
don't have any of the option anymore. I don't I
don't hook up or do anything anymore. But uh yeah,
And when he did me, like no one really cared
because at that point, and I was just like okay,
like sure, like you're gay, Like no one cares when
you do your job as you're not a piece of
shit or whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
But isn't that the point? And you're serving your country.
I don't know any other gay men who would serve
their country because that's putting yourself behind military you're putting
yourself in any kind of situation. I don't know a
lot of gay men that would do that.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
And there was one of the jokes that we made
in the army. They were just like they're just like,
you're a gay black man, Like why are you serving
the country that never served you.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'm just like, can you get two snaps in your uniform?
You're like yes, And I was just like, you.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Know what if I if I wasn't poor from a
small town, I would not be here, to be honestly.
And I was like and it was just like, yeah,
we're like all poors, Like that's why we're all here,
because like no one really wants to be there unless
you're one of those people from a military family who's
just like very very who you know, man. But like
other than that, most people join the military for like
free college and like because they pay for you to
go to college. And that's what I'm doing right now.

(38:08):
That's why I'll have a joc Like I'm like, I'm
in school and go go dance. So I'm make enough
to survive month of month, well not month of months,
but I make enough to survive on and I'm good
with that. But other than that, the military was great,
Like everyone was very accepting, probably a little bit too
much accepting, because the straight man get a little bit
too comfortable in their sexuality and comfortability. And I'm just like,

(38:30):
you start the question like, are you guys sure you're
not under this?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Everybody is on the spectrum.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That's why they call it a spectrum because and we
and we did have two trans soldiers in my unit,
which again everyone was very open. No one really cared.
It was just like we don't care about all this,
but not in a negative way, but more in like
a just do your job, make sure like you're not
a piece of turd or whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeahol, And like that's again, everyone.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Was just like so open. I'm just like, so is
everyone just in this unit just like pan sexual? Or
am I just tripping right now? Because the way you
guys talk. And again in the military, we have this
very oversexually and like dark humor in the way we talk.
You know, it's very like if you say that in
the real world, people be like, oh, but in the military.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Just like ha ha ha, it's like frat boy humor.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's like each other, let's let's grab each other's digs exactly.
I'm just like, don't you have a wife? Like, why
are you You're trying to hook up with the trans soldier.
I'm like, is it just like the genitals or are.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
You just like.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't care, because like again, people in the military
like they they love the dolls. They will act like they.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Don't, but I've heard many, many stories.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
They're behind this this masculine, macho persona that they put on,
like I'm in the military, blah blah blah, my big muscles.
But at the end of the day, they're just like, oh,
look at that twink. I want to pound that twink.
Oh look at her. I want to get up inside.
And I'm just like, calm down, Like if you want
to go to the gate club, if you want to
hook up who you want to hook up? Like, we

(39:58):
can go, you know, you can find somebody.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Cause But to your point, all this dichotomy is happening
in our military, and people are putting certain positions in life,
they're putting themselves at risk, and they're devoting themselves. You know,
we have such little appreciation for our military and the
struggle to even get to the military and live life
week after week in the barracks or on mission or whatever.
And this is the dichotomy, and this is the diversity

(40:22):
that is happening. So thank you for bringing that up.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Thank you. No problem. Like I said, the military, it's
it's not what people think it is. Again, like a
lot of people think, oh, the military, like guns, deployment
and all this, but like at the end of the day,
we're pretty much just again one big frat. Like everyone's
not combat. I was in combat, not deployed, but like
in a combat most military occupation especially or whatever. And

(40:48):
again we're very headstrong, chaotic type. And again we don't
really do anything besides just be a frat, even with women,
because some women are very hey, we'll beat you up,
even though like there's like two women in his unit,
like will Dale kick your.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Ass because they have to prove themselves two because you know, okay,
I'm going to register from the military right now. Okay,
A good job, Prince Joshua. When did you kind of
first experience that you were different? And I don't even
know what your heritage is.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I've always been different, you know what I mean. So,
like on my dad's side, we're Italian and Mexican. My
mom's side, Oh okay. And so it's like I have
this very like machismo side from my dad's side, and
then I have this like very like white from my
mom's side. And so it's this very interesting blend for

(41:43):
a family dynamic that I grew up with because we
had like a mix of.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Of Catholic and Baptist.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
So it's two very different religions. But all that is
Toughthic is tough enough, you get Catholics really tough, and
Catholic is tough.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
It's like, you better pray the Rosary ten times. If
people look a.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Lot, it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
And so when by the time I started being able
to like understand, we were Baptists and so they've kind
of moved on from the Catholic portion of life, it
was such a weird transition. And I think any religion
is weird, to be honest, I think any form of
it is just kind of slightly occult.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
But it is what you make of it.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
And unfortunately, I grew up very, very sheltered and very
scared to be who I was because I was told
from very early on that gay people go to Hell
and that you know, trans people aren't real and they're
just you know, mentally ill, et cetera, et cetera, which
obviously isn't true.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
But this is what I was told. This is.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
I'm a child, so you're, you know, they're molding my brain,
they're telling me what this is. So then I go
throughout my life and I'm you know, being bullied, being
told I'm gay, all these things. All my interests are,
like I love to play dress up, I love to
play with dolls, I love to play, you know, with
the girl girls at recess. And so it's just like
I'm constantly being told I'm gay and I'm this, and

(43:04):
da da da. Before I could even let myself find out,
Before I could even let myself figure it out what
it is that I want in my own life, people
were telling me what I am. People were telling me
what to do, and da da da da. My parents
were always in denial, always even as gay as I was,
they were just always in denial. And finally, one day
in high school, I was like talking to this boy

(43:25):
who I knew was gay, and I thought we were
just friends.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
But then I started to realize.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Like I cared more about like making sure he was
having a good day or I like would be more you.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Know, think about him.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I would actually think about him.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
And so it was really weird for me because I had,
you know, I'd had girlfriends, I had had you know,
feelings for girls, and so it was the first time
I had ever like started to feel this way for
a boy, and I was so confused.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I was beating myself up about it.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
I had, you know, previously found out that my transsister
at the time was secretly dating a guy, and at
that time, she wasn't trans, but I referred to her
that just out of respect for her, and so she
hid that from me. But my whole family hid that
from me because they didn't want me to find out.
And so it was really weird that my whole family

(44:12):
knew that my sister was you know, into guys, and
so it was it was hard because she came out
as gay first, but she didn't come out she was
outed and it was a family secret. And then when
I found out, I was livid because I'm like, so,
you guys have all been lying to me.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Wait, So she didn't come out to you.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
No, my one of my other sisters.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Found out about her boyfriend, and then they kind of
it was like an inner family thing.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It's funny because you and Rose are so close, so close,
and both of you were activists. The transfer of it
was weird.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
It was this time that we uh rekindled everything because
we had been best friends as growing up and then
we kind of went through a little year or two
of just being like not as close during like middle school,
early high school. And this moment I was like, Okay,
I think I like this guy. And then you know,
I joined cheerleading, which I feel like really gave me

(45:05):
the confidence. I feel like all the people on my
cheer team just like allowed me to be myself and
none of them would pressure me.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
None of them would tell me what I am.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
They would just let me be who I was, and
they I love them because they would let me say, no,
I'm not gay.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Until finally one day I was like, you know what,
I am gay, like I do like a guy.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
And then I told them, and then I told my sister,
and I remember it was like a few days before Christmas.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I told her and we were crying.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Holiday or when you bring home a boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah, we were just in my room crying because I
was like, I'm so sorry for like pushing you away
and for thinking that like religion is more important than
your happiness, and like now I realized that, like I
have feelings for this guy and I can't stop it.
And there's nothing like sinful about this, Like it's not
it's not like I have an evil or because.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
We were told that like these people or like they're
going to hell, like they're bad people.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
And so it was just like this weird rude awakening
of like I can be gay and be a good person,
Like what I've been told is not the real tea.
And so from then I just really started to like
gain my confidence. I left my church, I you know,
I started to just live life authentically and chase after
what made me happy. And it was just like the

(46:25):
most beautiful thing to ever happen to me, because all
the bullies in my school who had bullied me like
stopped caring because I stopped caring. I was like, yeah,
I'm gay, not for you, you're ugly, like and it
just like it only went up from there, like everyone
just started to see this new confidence in me. I
started to just like thrive in different areas and then

(46:46):
I decided, like I want more out of life, like
potatoes ain't enough for me.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I wish I could say that on a Friday baked
potato going out. I don't know it was fresh.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
It's very funny though, when we all talk about our
relationship with religion, or conservative family or our heritage, there
is a sadness when we have enough courage to leave it.
Like the Catholic church. You know, it was a safe
space and going to midnight Mass it offered some comfort,
and you know, leaving that is a little sad.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
But you can find spirituality in so many other ways
than organized religion.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
One hundred percent think that anyone.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Religion is necessarily bad. Like I said earlier, it's what
you do with that, you know. I take a lot
of values from Christianity, like do unto others as you
want done to you, and to.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Love your verse and to I'm very.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Versed have on to them. I had to bring it back, okay.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
But that being said, yeah, I feel like you can.
You can find spirituality in many different ways. It doesn't
have to be religion, and it doesn't have to follow
by a book or a set of rules that a
group tells you it needs to be.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
It is your own relationship. With you know, spirituality itself.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I think there's a lot of parallels though on like
all our coming out stories, Like you were saying that
you know, people were telling you you were gay before
you even knew what that was. That was the same
with me. And you know, growing up in a religious family,
like my Catholic aunts think I'm going to hell, But
surprisingly enough, my uncles, heterosexual Latino, were the most accepting.

(48:26):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, you would think that I would have all.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
That is very funny. My grandma's sisters, my great aunts
would play pray the Rosary for me every day to
go back to being straight, and her brothers didn't even
give a shit. They're like, okay.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I think the problem is people want to put you
in a box.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
As soon as you're a person, you know, as soon
as you're starting to make words and sentences, they want
to put you in a box.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Oh, he's gay or he's straight, or he's going to
be this, or he's going to be that. And it's like,
we don't need these labels.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
We don't need to be gay, straight, bye, parent, Like
could just be like love is a spectrum you don't
have to choose. Ever, like it's always evolving. Your own
love is always evolving. You can love whoever you want.
It just depends on the dynamic of the spirit of
the person you're with. That's what I believe. Same with
like any other type of labels like top or bottom

(49:17):
or verse, like if the person I'm with I want
to top, I'm gonna top them. And if that's consensual,
and if if the person I'm with you know I
want them to top me, then I'm gonna get on
all fours like So it's just like, I don't think
ever you need to put yourself in a box or
be labeled by anybody, not even yourself, because moments change,

(49:39):
you grow, you evolve, you learn to love other people,
you learn to love new things. Some people, you know,
start off as bottoms and later in life turn into tops.
And then I know the same goal never bottom to
my life and see, and some people know what they
like and they stick to that, and that's fine.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I have a tilted uterus. That's that's that's mine.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
You have a uterus.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Okay, we're gonna do some fun rapid fire go go questions.
So it's gonna be like boom bom boom. Yet heard,
what do you love most about being a go go.
What do you like least about being a go go?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I like ben and less clothes, okay, I like being an.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Underwear exhibitionist kind of yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I love dancing. I love making.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I love when I see that I have done my
job because people are dancing and they're letting loose and
they're dancing weird.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
That's how I know.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Okay, you're looking at me. I had a It wasn't
me dancing weird.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
With I dance, you turn around, you get all shy
and nervous.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
I get.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Shaking in.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
You throw your ass. Your ass is like pizza is
like it's for you. No, it's it's it's it's funny. Okay.
Your least favorite thing about being.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Oh god, the drunk people. They get too drunk and
A just started beating you.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
They're just like I'm like, yeah, smacking us, or girls
with long nails clawing us.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
And it having so much. They're just like, I'm just like, ma'am, ma'am,
get back.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Just put the money in my hand exactly.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Don't try and peel my underwear with your long claws.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I don't want to do it too much.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Just so Cynthia Rivo has been coming to West I
don't know imagine that'd be like four feet away, like
it's me. Have you ever hooked up with another go go?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yes, you didn't even wait to that first like introduction
to the gogo scene. I was dating a go go.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
That's a little different though, Okay, I mean have you
ever worked with a fellow go and you're like, oh,
let's have a question.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Yeah, definitely that.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Yes, any of your twenty six guys been uh yes, yes, okay, Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Have a question. I already know the answer. Have you
ever had another go go steal your underwear?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (52:03):
I have. This is like the number one story I hear.
Oh yeah, yeah, I have this favorite pair of Andrew
Christian and they were stolen by somebody, stolen in the
back room.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
And I think I have that exact story.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Actually, like a gold pair because I love massive collection,
you know, I like the gold Peer and I'm like, where's.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
My gold pair?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
It's gone someone in my back And money too, We've
I've had I've had to hear that steal money from
my back too. So it's it's really sad actually because
you wouldn't think that, like your own, you know, like coworkers,
would you that kind of stuff to you? But if
I ever catched you in my underwear, bitch, it's on
work those on all right?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Since both have you answered so quickly, when was the
last time you hooked up with another go go? Because
that was real fast for both of you last week.
I know your schedule for last week because you post it.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Last year.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Okay, okay. Have you ever hooked up with a club
guest who's like, oh, I'll wait till you're done.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yes, okay, I just yes to all these.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
I would have to say that that's somebody's fantasy though,
to hook up with a boy, like go to a
club and like meet the manager dreams who's a go
go boy, and then hook up with him.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
But most times they're like tired. All they want to
do is like come home, eat one hand, express watch
a movie, and like cuddle.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
So when I used to drink, I would I not
go home and we fucked. But now that I don't drink,
I go tired. After weired, I want to go to
bed and eat.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Oh no, I get drunk and I just get loose.
That's why I gotta stop drinking. In West Hollywood, Like.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I never heard of you being loose.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
You never seen run around West Hollywood because like even
when I'm not dancing and I'm like, take it off,
take it off, and I'm just like are you dancing?
I'm like no, I'm just drunk, and like what time
and when through Friday?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Ah? No, But here's the misconception, or maybe it's true,
and people have this misconception about you. It was like
you're surrounded by beautiful man, You're surrounded by the gay
saying how much sex are you guys having? And is
it hard to date when you're a go go boy?
From what I assume, neither one of you are in
a relationship right. Unfortunately, unfortunately or not, some people like

(54:25):
being single.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I think it's hard to date as a as a
go go boy because people sexualize us so much that
that's all I'm used to being is people sexualizing me,
and unfortunately, not many people want to see past that
side of us. Like I feel like we are an
object to them. We are almost like a challenge. Can
I conquer that?

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Can I get him?

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Can I sleep with him?

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Because after that, they most likely aren't going to try
and date me, you know, like and I know this
from experience, Like I slept with my fair share of people,
and most of the time it's like a and do
I kind of thing, like they want to know that
they could do it that, like they were able to
do that. And then it's kind of like you know,
of course I have like regulars or whatever, you know,
like fuck buddies.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Why I've definitely had not.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Like honestly, I thought you were this innocent flower that's like, no,
I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Yeah you can think.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
But also, Andrew, have you felt that too? It was
like people like, oh, I'm going to conquer the king
of underwear.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
See it's like it's like it's so weird.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
So I feel like a lot of people they don't realize,
like there's there's so many more layers to us, Like
maybe yeah, we are like inherently more kind of sexual
beings in that way, but there's more to us than
just sex. Like I want more out of life than
just fucking and nutting and dancing for you and thongs,
Like I have so much more substance to me in
my everyday life, but no one really wants to look

(55:50):
at that side. Also, it's hard for them because they're
working a normal job, and so I'm you know, sleeping
while they're at work, and then when I go to work,
that's like their time off, that's like their time to party.
So it's like, even if they did want to date us,
it is hard for them to date us because their
schedules and our schedules don't line up, and they think
we're always out.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Being touched and and there's and it's like if I
if I want.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Someone, I only want them, and so it's like it's
one of those things you just have to be very
confident and secure in yourself if you're going to try
to date a go go boy, because you know that's
our job is to be lusted after, and so you
just have to know that it comes with the territory.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
I mean, I've kind of had like a different dynamic,
like guys will want to try and sleep with me
to become a model, and it's like, okay, if you're
going to sleep with me, then you can't be a mind.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, Okay, your story because it's so weird on your Instagram,
you say a sexual. A lot of your Instagram stories
are not asexual exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I want people to see like behind social media, it's
very not what social media is. That's why, like, because
that's my Go Go account. So I post like when
people follow me like oh it's Instagram, when I'm just like,
this's my Instagram.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
You know, you're building like the persona, the fantasy.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, because that's Go Go hexts. That is hext' that
is not Ron Derek.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Like again and what does hex mean?

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Oh, it was just to be wished to mind. That's
why I'm just like, I know what it ass. But okay, okay,
so that's what it is. That's why it's like the
name so because again people think they see me and
they're just like, oh, he's doing this. I'm doing this
so easily. Yeah. And so again when people do that,
I'm just like I get it. Like you said, they
feel as like sexual things and that's it. But in

(57:40):
real life, I'm thirty years old. I've never had a boyfriend,
never been in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
You never had a boyfriend, Nope, nope, not one. My god,
well after this hair girl.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
So that's why, like in real life, I'm just like
I try to date, but at the same time, I
don't know, I have like this sorrying effect where it's
just like, man, see me, and it's just like, okay,
let's look up. Like even now I'm on hinge, I'm
on tender. We're talking, we're talking, we're talking, just like,
oh that's fucking I'm just like we did all this
talking just for just to be a hookup. And I'm
just like, okay, next.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I've never understood that, by the way, yeah me, that's
why I'm just like, what is wrong with me?

Speaker 1 (58:17):
So that's why I got this. People like, if you're
a sexual, why do you have less tattooed on your chest.
I'm like, because that's what I am. It's just less.
I'm like, I've never had love. There's never been nothing genuine.
It's just been like, okay, yeah, you're attractive, like oh,
you're so smart, you're so funny, blah blah blah. The
way you look. I love your energy and I'm like, oh,
thank you want to go grab something to eat and
it's like we grab something to eat or whatever, and
it's just like, okay, let's hook up, and I'm like,

(58:40):
now I want to get to know you. I don't
want to have like sex because I know once you
have sex with someone. They just be like it's all
going to be like Okay, it's great, let's keep going.
I was gonna be like, okay, I did it. Now
I'm gonna leave. And it happens most of the time.
That's why it's only been like twenty six hookups in
my life because that's all this beening. It's just like
a date hook up. Man never talk again like oh well,

(59:00):
it's the sex bag, like you could let me know,
like you gotta avoid me. And now since movement to
West Hollywood, it's got even worse because again I am
a go go dancer, and so when people do that,
I'm just like, oh well, damn, I guess it's just
not in the cars for me.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
This is the reality of like go go life. You
know we had no.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Doesn't it any sexual? Mean you don't have sex?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
So my question to you is I think you're a
romantic it's little to please them or.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Is it because like when people hear a sexual that's
what they thinking, Like, yes, it is true, and like
I don't care to have sex, like I don't have
like sexual desirehood.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Because that's what they want.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yes, because you never feel like I'm a little today,
No I.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Mean, like I see I checked them, and I'm just like, Okay,
yeah he's hot, but I don't really.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You just want to cuddle him.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
And yeah, like I don't really act on it because
like even even at the gym, at the gym, when
I like in the locker room, I shot whatever, you know,
I walk around naked, you know, fring myself.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
I've noticed yeah, yeah, he got the same gym and
I'm like, sir, can you please put that away? You're
gonna poke somebody's eye out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah, And it's so crazy because like and like I
don't know if it's gonna sound like I'm mint to
cocky or bragging or whatever, but like doing that like
in a shower, like people are just like, oh, coming
to like the handicapst all over all, coming show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
The handicapst All.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah, because like it's go down. It's the biggest space
over So like I'm just like, oh, no, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
You do want to lose your membership.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I haven't been to a gym since nineteen forty two,
so I have no clue. No one tag like another
one closed. Didn't they close their steam room? Or that
was crunched? That was was that your fault. You're knocking
over the towel rack and like the lamps and all.
You're like, I don't even know what happened. It's just like,
so what happens when you guys see each other at

(01:00:47):
the gym and he's like swinging away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I'm just like, yeah, I'm just being too nervous. But again,
you know from a small town, so like seeing him,
I've want to see him like on social media. So
like when I saw him for the person, I was
just like, do I say, hey, do I talk to him?
So I'll just be like I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Don't know what to say to people, Like I'm just
not come in the face like Rire.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I just be like, hey, like I know you from
like social media, like would it be like because like again,
I see a lot of celebrities too, so I'll just
be like like because I don't have to say to them. Again,
I'm a small It sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Like you don't use your hand to wave.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, I just not in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
In the locker room, it was fresh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
So but asexually typically means you don't want to have sex. Yeah,
a romantic might be what maybe, although we don't know.
Labels there's like a million words.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah, but like again when I tell people, when I
explained to them, I'm like I still feel sensation because
people are like, oh, like you don't get your wrection.
I'm like, if you touch my parents, if you touch
my opinions, Like I have nerves, I have feelings there,
so like it's going to get you read. I have
a prostate. That's why it's just not your you know
you don't it's crazy an me, but like I'm like,

(01:01:57):
but again, I have a nervous system.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
You don't enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I mean I don't check it out. Yeah yeah, like
I don't seek it out, and like I don't care,
Like when not hook up, I'm just like okay, like
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna finish. I'm not gonna
come Like it's not you, it's just me. Like like
you can use my body how you want to. You
can suck or sit on it and bounce whatever. I'm like,
it does nothing for me, Like, yes, I have any direction,
but like I'm not gonna finish. That's that's interesting to

(01:02:20):
be like, but like I'm not going to finish. I'm
just like like halfway through it. I'm just like, Okay,
see I went soft, like it's not you at all,
and like they feel bad. I'm like you at all,
Like it's just me, Like I don't have performance issues.
It's just I mean the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Fact that the fact that you're even trying to like
do that though, is like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Like you're going outside of your own comfort zone so
that this person can be sexually pleased, which I think
is like that's crazy because I've tried dating an asexual
person before and it was really hard for me because
we'd get so hot and bothered.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
And then I'd be so turned on.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
I'm like I just want to fuck, but he like
I didn't want to disrespect him because I know that
that wasn't what he wanted to do, so I would
I wouldn't push it any further than you know, just
like cuddling, dry, humpy whatever. And so it's just like
the fact that you would like let them or go
to that extent, it's surprising to me because I've never
really heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
And that's why, like I'm big on communication, because like
that's what I tell guys, like if you want to
have sex, like you know, just let me know, Like
I'm not going to be like no, but like, am
I going to be in a mood? No? But like
if you want, like, of course, I'm going to please
my partner because that's what partnership is about. It's like
a couple of miles of communication. Like it you'd be like,
oh babe, like I'm horny.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Right now, Like do y'all see this? This is boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It's I'm going to be like, okay, yeah, if you're
honting like yes, I will please, then satisfy you like
you are my man, like I'm gonna make you happy.
I'm not going to be like okay, yeah, I'm not
into sex. No get away from me. Io gross, It's
going to be like okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Like, well, this show is not what I thought it
was going to be. Paid some questions. We didn't even
get into. Oh no, but this is the reality of
Go Go boys. We don't know what the reality boy is.
You know, people think it's like, oh, we see you
guys are like, oh, you know, they're beautiful in it.
All they do is have fun and sex and all
of that stuff. Prince Josho, I wanted to real fast
talk about your music career. So we know many people

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from West holly Wood, like, oh, I'm gonna release a single,
and we're all like, oh God, really, you actually did it,
not just one, not just two. How much music have
you released in the last couple of years.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
So I started last year with a feature in Tokyo
song Kuchi, and so that was technically my first So
I guess now a year later, I have released eight.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Songs, which that's like incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Four music video or five music videos and eight songs,
which I think is crazy. But it's just one of
those things I never thought I was gonna do until
one day I just decided to do it and it
was like boom. I love hip hop, I love music,
I love fashion, I love dancing. So when I take
all of that and combine it and make it my own,
it's just it's so incredible. It feels like I'm giving

(01:04:57):
birth to like this creativity of my own, you know,
all of my own loves and desires into this one thing.
And so it's like I'm not doing it for anybody
but myself and the community. Like no one's telling me
to do this, no one's asking me to do this,
no one's paying me to do this, no one's funding me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
To do this. I do all of this out of
the harder money that you put in my underwear.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
I pay for all that, you know, locations for the
cameraman for I direct it all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I produced it all. I you know, I find the beat,
I write my own music.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I I style everybody in the shoe, I, you know,
create timelines of what the shot list is gonna look like.
I literally do everything in in the entire production to
make it happen. And it's it's so incredible because it's
just everything I love to do. I learned how to
do a lot of this in school when I went
to school for fashion marketing, and so it's like I

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just take all of that knowledge and I put it
into this new found, you know, hobby of mine. And
it's just so fun because it feels so liberating being
able to just like create something that I hope one
day other people are going to listen to and be
able to relate to have fun to talk to, like
maybe even laugh at it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Like I don't care. I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I know, you know, my music's not for everybody because
I don't like every song that's out there of other people's,
you know what I mean. So like I know that
I'm not for everyone, but that's okay, Like I'm not
doing this for everyone. I'm doing this for, you know,
for me. I'm doing this for people who will like
it and in my community who are gonna, you know,
enjoy it too, because I don't think there's enough gay

(01:06:32):
artists out there creating music that we can relate to
or that we can feel like, you know, some type
of connection to, because a lot of it is just
like I love my female rappers, but I can't always
relate to their music in the same way.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
That I wish I could.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
And I can't do that with straight rappers either, and
so it's like this really small, small area where there's
only a few gay rappers who have even kind of
touched a little bit of fame, like sauc Santana, Lolona's X,
and I think there needs to be more. And so
it's like, why not me, why not us? Why not
our friend group? Because someone's got to do it, so

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let's just start doing it. I've always loved poetry.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I'm a.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Published poet, and so it's like I'm I've taken you know,
all of these different fields that I've always been passionate
about and I just started creating my own ratchet, queer,
unapologetic music and I just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I just love the way it's going.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
I'm really excited for my next one that I've been
working on, and yeah, you better stay tuned because it's
gonna be a turk song for the summer and it's
gonna be lit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
All right, Well, we're gonna take a little peak, but
I do have to say Sacia Santana. So I'm actually
taking part in Black La Pride this year. Yes, I
didn't know. It's been around for eleven years. By the way,
that's how in a bubble in La we are towards
our people of color. As a gay man, I'm so
apologetic that I don't know. It was a three day
festival during July fourth. Yeah, so but this year we

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are involved in Sascia Santana's the headline.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
That's so exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
So La Black Pride come out for three days of fun.
But let's take a little teased look, Prince Joshua.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Actually black.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Round one fight.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Level love, bitch level of your ship up in this bitch,
turn it up?

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
Get is it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
I'm a boss bitch, never gonna quick. Yeah, I keep
it smoking hot. I know you want a hair level
level level love bit. You better turn it up. You
wouldn't need a lot of love. You would do it
different dug level level level love bit. You better turn
it up level a level level level level level level up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Prince in this bitch, but I better pop as. I'm
gonna tell my ship, I'm gonna take my top bobs.
Then i'll make a hair and I'll make y'all a
I got. You don't even spit. You ain't doing naass,
You ain't doing naa, and you don't speat my craft.
I'm gonna be it. You a clown. I'm gonna laugh.
You are pens.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
I'm gona prittce different kind of class. I'm the final
level bit. You're never gonna ass bitch on my leveating,
so you better level. I'll be dominating you below me
like a sub. I'm gonna be a dick because you're
the one that sucks. If I had a link, God,
take all your bucks. Level love bitch level ship, I'm
in this bitch, turn it up, get it it. You
know I'm a boss bitch, never gonna quit. Yeah, I
keep it smoking hot. I know you want to hit

(01:09:08):
level level level up, but you better turn it up.
You wouldn't need a lot of love you and but
it's giving dug level level level louve bat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
You better turn it up.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
Leve a level level level.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Love a level level up. Posting like a blake got
in this bitch body stupid take like my entire clicks
if you want to hear, get a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Light out of it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
All right, So that's a little pig Oh yeah, a little.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
I you know, I take like cheerleading, which obviously is
you posted.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
A fun post the other day and it's you cheerleading
next to one of your pictures that were taken at
one of your go go things. Yeah, so it was
it was literally the same picture.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Yeah, it's like, uh, the high school me doing a
toe touch and then like the you know nowadays me
doing a toe touch in front of a huge crowd
out Pride. So it's just it's really cool to see
like I've taken all the different things in my life
that I'm passionate about and I combine it within you know,
my music career and and and these music videos, combined cheerleading, music, fashion,

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all of it you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
All right, we have to let Tony go home to
his husband. But your real we know, go go doesn't
last forever. What is on your future horizon is in
terms of like what's next, not that it's gonna happen
tomorrow or in five years or whatnot. But you have
to have that in mind.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Currently, I am in school at LA Film School for
music production and he does music. Potentially be going for
film production as well, but at the moment, because I'm
in LA and a lot of people have been telling me,
I have been slowly getting into modeling and dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
So God, if only we're attractive enough.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
So yeah, hopefully in the future one of those three
things fall in music production, film production, modeling are professional dancing.
I'm going for it. So that's why I'm right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Coming here with a car full of your belongings, not
having any connections like you've done the dancing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Yep. I didn't think I was gonna last this long,
but hey, I'm here at two years in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
And what's your message to the queer community. That's Pride season?

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Oh god, do I have a message for the queer community? Woof,
Let's see, he needs a drink for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
One by.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Okay, let's see to the queer community. I don't know
if it's been said already. You know, be you be
true to yourself because you know, at the end of
the day, the world is going crazy right now, so
no one is gonna, you know, know about your story.
So again, just be yourself and be honest to you know,
because again, even in the gay community, we have our

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issues that people don't see. Even though we say equality
and all this, we still have our little indeciseness and
little bit of segregation in here. But again, just be
honest and a good person.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
And where can we find in fellow at go go
Hicks at ig.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I would say Twitter and Blue Sky. But yeah, I'm
ready for that kind of content.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Wait, there's that kind of content.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah, and it's for free. I just do it for
fun because I like showing off my body to the people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Well, no, I need to if you don't know, no,
you know, Okay, So Priss Joshua. We know you're doing music,
but in the future, like what what kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
I think the possibilities are endless. I mean, obviously I
want to keep creating music, I want to keep dancing.
I think maybe starting my own type of party or night,
being a club promoter or any sort of yeah of
continuing just like I bring the party every go go set.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
So in my head it's like, why not have my
own party?

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
So I think I think just going continuing into the
entertainment industry in bigger ways than I'm currently doing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
I think I see a path here. I you know,
I can, I can see it already.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Open up that bar. Let me know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
And your message to the queer community this predicasm.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Be a faggot, be queer, take up space, use your voice,
be on, you know, apologetic about it. Don't let anybody
else dim your shine because there's so much room in
this entire sky for every single start to shine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Okay, So be you, baby, You're beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
And where can people find and follow you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
You can find me at the Prince Joshua, on Spotify,
on Apple Music, on Instagram, on TikTok, on x on
Blue Sky and YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yes, I love it all right, mister Andrew Christian. We
talked about this on the last episode. But where do
you see yourself in the future?

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
I don't like I said, creativity does not retire, so
it may manifest itself in many different ways. You know,
our communities under attack as it hasn't been in decades.
So I think, you know, political activism maybe a path
I take. Who knows our community? Is it right now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
And open up an answer? Christian bar let's go no.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
But I think that's I think that's a good yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
And your message to the queer community this part season.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Know your self worth and know the truth is inside you.
Nobody can tell you who you are and what you are.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
You know who you are period and where can people
find and follow you as if they don't know?

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Instagram Andrew Christian, I n t L TikTok, the Andrew
Christian Andrew Christian on X Oh God, there's so many
platforms and buy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
The broke type and yeah and by the bro Glow
Bronser before they run out. I'm so scared. Well that's it, folks.
It's always a grab bag of fun here and on
the rocks every week. Big thank you to our engineer
Tony Sweet who's also the station owner. And you know
we're in a we're in a period of change and transformation.
And I do have to say, after many many years

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here at UBN, this is our final on the Rocks
here in this studio space, which is very surreal. Of course,
the show is going to con tinue. Of course, the
network's going to continue, but we're gonna take a little
time and we're gonna revamp and just see what happens.
But Tony have to thank you. How many years has
it been, No, it's been more than that. It's been

(01:15:15):
thirteen years. We did podcasting before podcasting, so I think
it was called internet radio, and we were at Sunset
Gower Studios and then we got pushed out by Shonda Rhimes.
Thanks Shanda, and we came here. But this has been
my home. This has been home to many celebrities that
have come in, many great experiences, some interesting experiences. So Tony,
thank you, thank you very much. You're continuing, U Ben,

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