Have you ever felt like no matter how much money you make, you always end up in the same financial situation? What if your beliefs about money were secretly holding you back?
In this episode, we explore the concept of the financial thermostat with money mindset expert Pericles Rellas. If you've ever struggled with financial stress, limiting beliefs about wealth, or felt stuck in your earning potential, this conversation will give you the tools to reset your money mindset and create lasting financial change.
- Discover what a financial thermostat is and how it controls your financial reality.
- Learn the three steps to identifying and releasing subconscious money blocks.
- Find out how to reprogram your money mindset for abundance and financial freedom.
Tune in now to learn how to reset your financial thermostat and transform your relationship with money forever!
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KEY POINTS AND TIMESTAMPS:
02:40 - Understanding the Financial Thermostat
04:52 - How Our Money Thermostat is Set
08:01 - The Impact of Childhood and Life Events on Money Beliefs
14:27 - The Three Steps to Reset Your Financial Thermostat
19:00 - Identifying Hidden Money Blocks
22:29 - Releasing Limiting Beliefs About Money
25:20 - Manifesting a New Financial Reality
31:14 - The Power of Affirmations and Vibrational Shifts
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MEMORABLE QUOTE:
"Let go of your fear, it's all going to be okay."
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Mastery Seekers Tribe: https://masteryseekerstribe.com
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Agi Keramidas (00:00):
Have you ever felt like no matter how much
money you make, you always endup in the same financial
situation. In this episode, 480you will discover why making
more money won't solve yourfinancial problems unless you
fix this one thing first,welcome to Personal Development
(00:26):
mastery, the podcast that helpsintelligent, busy professionals
develop self mastery anddiscover their calling so you
can thrive in a fulfilling,purposeful life. I am your host.
Agi Keramidas By listening tothis episode, you are going to
discover what the financialthermostat is and how it
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controls your financial reality.
You will also learn the threesteps to identifying and
releasing subconscious moneyblocks, and you will discover
how to reprogram your moneymindset for financial success
and abundance. Before we divein, remember, my fellow mastery
seeker, if you want to go deeperinto the episode, join us at our
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free community, the masteryseekers tribe, for more, go to
mastery seekers.com now let'sget started
Today it is my real pleasure tospeak with Pericles Rellas.
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Pericles, you are a moneymindset expert with over 20
years of experience helpingpeople transform their
relationship with money. Youhave worked with 10s of 1000s of
individuals uncovering thehidden patterns that keep them
stuck in cycles of financialstress, and you are passionate
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about empowering people totransform their relationship
with money break free from thecycle of financial stress and
create a mindset for wealth andfreedom. Pericles, welcome to
the so I'm delighted to speakwith you today.
Pericles Rellas (02:11):
Agi, thank you for having me on. I appreciate
it. It's great to be here.
Agi Keramidas (02:15):
And if at some point during a conversation I
call you, Pericles, it will be,because I will be using, you
know, the actual Greek versionthe pronunciation of yours.
Pericles Rellas (02:27):
Absolutely welcome to do so.
Agi Keramidas (02:30):
So I think from the even the quick introduction
I gave of you, it is very clearthat today we will talk about
money mindset in particular, youdiscuss about the concept of the
money thermostat, which it is avery important and pertinent,
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especially these times topic. Sowe'll invite the listener right
now, if you've ever wondered howto change perhaps your limiting
beliefs about money, thisconversation is for you. The
first thing I will ask Periclesis just give us a brief
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definition of or an overview ofthe concept of the financial
thermostat. Of
Pericles Rellas (03:22):
course, it. The reason I use it is it, it really
puts it into a format thatalmost anyone can relate to. We
we've all interacted with athermostat at some point,
whether it's on an oven or inour home or our car, and it's
got one purpose. All it does isregulate the temperature. So if
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we set it at 72 degrees, if it'scold outside, the heat will come
on, and it'll bring the roomback up to 72 degrees. And the
opposite is true as well. Ifit's really hot outside, and it
goes up to 90, the AC will kickon and it will bring the room
back down to that temperature.
And what we don't notice or knowabout ourselves is that we all
have an internal financialthermostat, and that thermostat
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regulates how much money we canearn, how much money we can
keep, as well as our thoughts,feelings and emotions around
money. And so for those of yourlisteners who are thinking, wow,
I've been struggling with, withnot being able to make more my
whole life, or I can make lots,but I can't keep it, or I'm
always stressed about money thatis not a defect of you or a
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problem is just the financialthermostat setting that you have
in that area. And so I work withpeople to first see what their
financial thermostat setting is,and then reset it so they can
make the kind of money that theywant and have the kind of life
that they're looking for.
Agi Keramidas (04:48):
This is great, and we will go into detail about
the thermostat, because thefirst thing we need to
understand is how thatthermostat was set in the first
place. Because. Before we gothere. Tell us what. What
inspired you to dedicate yourwork in, you know, helping
people shift their moneymindset.
Pericles Rellas (05:10):
Yeah, when I first started working, I was, I
was a coach. I wanted to coachpeople who were opening a
business, or people who justwanted to make more money be
more successful in their lives,that was my focus. And as I
started working with my firstclients 30 years ago, I noticed
within the first six months,they were making more money,
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which was great. That for me,was success. I wanted them to
have the success that they werelooking for. But what I also
noticed was every single time Ispoke with them, they were still
in the same place they werebefore I started working with
them, meaning they were somebodythat was always just behind at
the end of every month, theywere still just behind every
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single month, even though theywere making a lot more money. Or
if there was somebody that wasalways just breaking even, they
were still just breaking even,even though they were making a
lot more money, and the samething for stress or anxiety or
or worry about money, they weremaking more money. And yet this
was still the situation thatthey were in. And I looked at it
and thought, okay, everyone'sdealing with this across the
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board. Something must be goingon here that I'm not seeing. And
so I spent the next two years,really looking at it and
researching it and thinkingabout it and inquiring with my
clients, okay, what's going onhere, what's going on there? And
over the course of that time, Icame up with the financial
thermostat and how it regulatesand limits what we can do around
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money, and then also the fourkeys to resetting your financial
thermostat. And so at thatstage, I started to implement
these distinctions with myclients, and the results were
extraordinary. And my clientskept saying, Oh, I have a friend
who needs this, and I havesomebody else who needs this.
And it just naturally grew andevolved into me becoming this
focus of as a coach, a moneymindset focus for people to
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reset their financialthermostats. So it was very
organic in the wake arose, butit became a passion for me over
the years, because I see howpeople's mindsets can really
limit their ability to createthe kind of life that they're
looking for. Thank
Agi Keramidas (07:17):
you. And I think anyone that has been in a
situation like you justdescribed, like having, let's
say, increased earnings andstill being in the same, you
know, result at the end of amonth or a period, I think they
can understand, and perhaps theyhave not even considered that
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term. So let's talk about themoney thermostat, or the
financial thermostat. How doesit get set in the first place?
Is it like what we get from ourparents, or are also events
during our life that can changeit
Pericles Rellas (07:54):
all of the above, you're absolutely right.
And in for some of us, we havegenerational money mindsets. You
know, we have, we have thingsthat are passed on from our
parents and our grandparents andbefore them, and we don't even
realize that it's there. I, forme, personally, one of the
biggest breakthroughs I had onceI started this education and
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started this conversation is Iremember this time when I was a
little boy, I was about sixyears old, and we were watching,
as a family, a show you may knowor may not know, especially
across the pond, calledlifestyles of the rich and
famous. And you can imagine thetheme of this. It was all about,
you know, a focus on a familythat that was very wealthy, and
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generally it was, you know, justwhat their lives look like. It
was kind of a peek behind thecurtains. But this particular
episode was how this wealthyfamily came to be wealthy, but
also how it destroyed theirfamily, how miserable they all
were. And I remember as the showended, my mother said very
nonchalant. She wasn't trying toreally make a point beyond a
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casual comment, I never want tohave that kind of money. You'll
lose your whole family. And inthat instant, that six year old
boy not knowing what I wasdoing, but subconsciously, I
made the decision, never maketoo much money, because you'll
lose your whole family. And assomeone who loves my family, I
didn't want to lose them. Andthat became the glass ceiling
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financially, or my financialthermostat setting that stopped
me from ever getting beyond acertain amount of money. And I
remember struggling with it. Iremember fighting with it. I
remember saying, I'm gonna getto the next level no matter
what, if it kills me. And itwas, it was a struggle, and I
couldn't get there. And then,when I started to create this
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education, I was able totransform it in a very short
period of time by implementingthe steps that I have to
resetting any particular settingthat we have. And so for me, I
can trace it back to that.
Conversation when I was a sixyear old boy, and for all of us,
it can be our family members. Itcan be people that are
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influential around us. It can beaunts or uncles or teachers or
friends or family members thatare extended or simply watching
a TV show and seeing somethingthat impacts us at a deep level,
that we make a decision about,and then suddenly it's running
the show for the rest of ourlives.
Agi Keramidas (10:26):
So how about events in our adult life? Is
that also something that canhappen, that can change the
thermostat?
Pericles Rellas (10:37):
Yes, absolutely. As we get older, I
think that there are less thingsthat influence us at a
subconscious level around money,because our our kind of, our
money mindset or thermostat isset, there are things that can
make dings to it, and it dependson what we what we bring to the
conversation we need to be In aconversation of, I'm committed
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to changing. I'm committed tohaving something different. And
when we're in that place, itopens up to okay, there's this
possibility of making anadjustment, both negative and
positive, but sometimes we needthat outside influence to be
able to point out what we can'tsee. It's one of the reasons
great athletes and greatbusiness leaders have coaches is
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so the coach can point out whatthey can't see, because you
can't change what's there withthe same mindset that you use to
get where you are. So we need toshift our mindset, and
oftentimes that requires somesort of outside influence.
Sometimes it's just watching aYouTube video or reading a book
or listening to someone likethis in this conversation, and
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other times, it takes a moreintimate, focused conversation.
But yes, it is possible to makethose adjustments as we get
older, and in my case, I'mlooking at making it in a
positive way for people, of
Agi Keramidas (11:56):
course. So have you? Have you noticed people
changing their thermostat justby watching a talk or just for
some people, Is it as simple asthat? I
Pericles Rellas (12:09):
think it's it's both. For some people, it can be
as simple as that. There arethings that I've accomplished in
my life that I never thought Icould accomplish simply by
reading a very influential book.
It would need to be the rightbook for you, for me, right? So
one of the things that I like toimpress upon people is that
there is no one right answer foreveryone. If you meet someone
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and says, Well, I have theanswer. It's the answer for
everyone, and nobody else has itrun. That is not the person you
want to be working with, becausethey are going to just sell you
whatever they have to sell you.
For me, it's about find someoneand or something that works for
you, and as long as it inspiresyou, as long as you're getting
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the outcome that you wantcontinue to do it, and then be
okay with coming to the end ofthat particular journey. Because
there are times. There was atime when I was doing
journaling, and it was amazing.
And I had this whole process byjournaling. And then there was a
day I woke up and it was kind oflike, okay, I'm done journaling.
Well, I didn't think, okay, mylife's over, and this is
horrible, and try to force it. Ijust realized, no, there's
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something now for me to move onto. And I found the next thing,
and then I found the next thing.
So find the thing that works foryou, because at the end of the
day, that's what's going to workfor you.
Agi Keramidas (13:24):
If you enjoy this episode, can you think of one
person that would find it usefuland share it with them? I'd
really appreciate it, and youwill also be adding value to
people you care about. And nowlet's get back to the episode.
Thank you, and I completelyagree with what you said about
not one solution, not only tothat, but generally with in the
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field of personal development, Idon't think there is, or there
would be, one solution. Let'smove on very please and okay, I
we get it now, the moneythermostat, and that you also
use the phrase glass ceiling,which, I think it's a very nice
way to also describe it. So,what are the steps of resetting
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the money thermostat? Or what?
What does this? Let's start withthat, and then I will ask you
about perhaps some steps alongthe journey that we realize that
things are changing.
Pericles Rellas (14:26):
The first step to understanding the steps for
resetting any area of ourfinancial thermostat is
understanding how money flows.
Money is a currency, and as acurrency, it flows like a
current, and a current can beelectricity, it can be water, it
can be wind. We've allinteracted with currents at some
point in our lives. Money flowsin a distinct way, in that it
flows in a circle, and weintersect that circle so it
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flows to us, through us and awayfrom us, and then back around to
us, through us and away from us.
And then there's a reservoir onthe side that we. To keep. Now,
because money flows in thiscircle, blocks anywhere in that
flow are blocks everywhere inthat flow, including that
reservoir on the side that weget to keep. So the first thing
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we want to do is look to see,well, what are my blocks in the
flow coming to me? And then theblocks in the flow of money
going away from me so blocks inthe flow of money coming to us
can look like I hate thewealthy. I hate my boss. I think
that money is the root of allevil. Those are just three very
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simple examples, and probablythe most powerful of all of
them. If we resent the wealthy,or we hate the wealthy, or we
think money is the root of allevil. We will never be able to
become wealthy, because we can'tbecome that which we resent or
that which we hate. And we don'tlook at it from that
perspective, but we think fromOh, well, I don't want that much
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money, but in the world of more,there is no distinction. If I
give you a single penny, you nowhave more than you had a second
ago. That makes you wealthierthan you were. And when we start
making those kind of decisionsand judgments about wealth, the
universe doesn't parse it out bypennies or nickels or dimes. It
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just says they don't want moremoney, because money is the root
of all evil. And so we want toclear those blocks out, and I'll
show you how to do that in justa moment. Blocks in the flow of
money going away from us canlook like I hate paying my bills
on time. I resent paying mybills. I never pay people what
they want. I always try tonegotiate it down. I will hold
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on to my money as long as I can,I Penny pinch every penny. Those
are blocks in the flow of moneygoing away from us. And again,
any one of those blocks impactsthe money flowing to us, through
us and away from us. Andultimately, that reservoir on
the side, that reservoir on theside, can have blocks too money
flowing to that reservoir on theside. I don't deserve money. I
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don't deserve to have a lot ofmoney. Those conversations can
block you being able to savemoney on that reservoir on the
side. So now that we've seenwhat the flow of money is and
how we can block it, the nextstep is to clear those blocks
out. And we can have many, manydifferent blocks, but we want to
start with the most predominantone, and that for some of you
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listening, may very well havebeen when I said Money is the
root of all evil, or I hate thewealthy, whatever that may be.
For you, you can just stop andthink about what's your
relationship to money, or whatdo you think when you think
about money? And that will beone of the blocks, if it's
negative, that will be one ofthe blocks in the flow of money
for you. So the first step toclearing these blocks is one,
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notice it and acknowledge it.
This is so important, if wedon't notice it and acknowledge
it, we're never going to be ableto get beyond it. It's kind of
like the alcoholic saying I'm analcoholic, that acknowledgement
gives us power over it, ratherthan it having power over us.
And so we want to acknowledgeit. Oh, this has been my
conversation for 20 years or 30years, or I don't even know how
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long it's been, but I've gotthis conversation and this block
around money I can own that thesecond step. Before
Agi Keramidas (18:16):
we go to the second step one, please question
about this first step. So isthere any particular process
that you advise in order toidentify these blocks? Because
it's one thing to talk aboutthese blocks, but as you very
well know, they are mostlyhappening on the subconscious
level, and I might not, forexample, necessarily be aware
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that when I'm paying money Ihave at the back of my mind the
thought that, you know, yes, sohow, how do we bring those
blocks into light?
Pericles Rellas (18:55):
This is a great question, and one that comes up
from time to time, becausesometimes, like for me when I
was a six year old boy, we maynot be able to identify that
particular incident or episodeor moment in time, and sometimes
it's just a matter of, I don'tknow what it is, but I can't get
beyond this place. We knowthere's an it there. We may not
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be able to identify its originor it in particular, but we can
identify that there's an itthere, that's a block, and all
we need to do is make thatdeclaration. I don't know
exactly what it is, but I knowit's there, and I know it's been
there for a long time, and I canown that it's been there and
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that it's been stopping me fromgetting to where I want so I can
own that it is there. So forthose of you who are concerned
about that, don't worry aboutfinding the exact time or day
people spend years in therapytrying to figure out why they
are the way they are. And I'mnot dissing therapy. It's
awesome for many people, butsometimes people, they spend
years and 1000s and $1,000trying. Figure out why they are
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the way they are, and then theyfigure it out. And I say, Great,
did it make a difference? Oh,no, I'm still the same way. I
just know now, why, why it is sothat's not the key here. The key
is just noticing that there issomething there, if you can
identify it, great, if not justuse it there is that it? There?
Own it. Okay, I've got this. Itthere, then the next step is and
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this can be the hardest one,because it has been there for a
long time. It's familiar, it'scomfortable, and many times
we're actually addicted to it.
We're addicted to that sense ofwhatever it provides us, because
it's familiar. The next step isletting it go, and we need to
say it out loud, and we need tofeel it leaving us, and we need
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to send it away to whatever itis we want to send it away. So
for me, it could be Iacknowledge that I've had this
conversation, that I will losemy family if, if I make too much
money, I am surrendering thatconversation into the care of
the universe. It could be God,it could be the universe. It
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could be the mountains, theocean, the beach, whatever it
is, just something outside ofyourself. It's irrelevant where
it's going. It's just thatyou're sending it away. I
surrender that conversation intothe care of the universe. I turn
it over to the universe. Irelease it from my life. It is
no longer welcome in my world.
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It no longer has dominion overme. It no longer has power or
influence over me. I release youand surrender you to a higher
power, whatever that is, and youkeep saying it until you feel
even the slightest sense ofrelief or release, or it lifting
away. And that's the secondstep. And then in that moment
when you feel that sense, andyou have to feel it, it can't be
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just something you're justrotely saying, you have to
actually feel it. When you feelit, then you create, what is
your relationship with moneynewly? And for me, it's money
flows to me freely andabundantly every single day.
That's what I created. Moneyflows to me easily and
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abundantly every single day, andI can feel that, and I can see
and feel and hear and experiencemoney flowing to me easily and
abundantly every single day.
That's the third step. Now, oncewe've taken these three steps,
it's not just over. It's notlike suddenly, it's daffodils
and daisies and bunny rabbitsjumping around and millions of
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dollars flowing to us. We needwe've been doing what we've been
doing. It has been running theshow for decades. Sometimes we
need to now keep generating thatnew relationship to money and be
watching for it showing up inour lives. Because what we're
doing is there. There are twoworlds we're creating or working
inside of, one's energetic andone is brain science. So brain
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science is we're creating newneural pathways. We're breaking
the old neural pathways thathave been there forever and ever
and ever. We're breaking them byacknowledging it and releasing
it, and then we're creating anew neural pathway. We need to
build those new neural pathwaysover and over and over again and
make them stronger and strongerand stronger so they become the
predominant conversation that wehave. On an energetic level,
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we're shifting our vibrationalfrequency. For those of you who
follow Abraham Hicks, thingslike that, the power of
manifestation, the law ofattraction, we're shifting our
vibrational frequency by firstacknowledging and releasing the
old vibrational frequency andnow creating a new vibrational
frequency, which is why it's soimportant that we feel it,
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because that's when we knowwe're vibrating at a new
frequency. Now we go out intothe world and we're looking for,
oh, wow, there's money, there'smoney, there's money. We're
acknowledging it. We'reexpressing gratitude for it. And
as that starts to happen, thatnew conversation becomes the
predominant conversation, thatold conversation will never go
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away. It will get quieter andquieter and quieter and less
frequent, but it will show upfrom time to time you do the
same three steps all over again.
Oh, there's that oldconversation I can own that I've
released you. I'm letting you goagain. You're no longer welcome
in my world. Here's who I amnow. Money flows to me freely
and abundantly every single day.
Take on those it's three stepsplus an action once you take
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those three steps, and thenyou're out in the world watching
for the evidence of it showingup, pulling that evidence toward
Oh, I found a penny. Thank youfor putting money in front of
me. Thank you for showing methat money flows to me freely
and abundantly every single day.
Oh, there's another opportunityI'm going to look at. That
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opportunity doesn't mean youhave to take it, but we're
looking at all the opportunitiesthat are being put in front of
us as a result of this newrelationship we have for money.
We're exploring them, we'relooking at them, we're
considering them. We don't haveto take them all, but we're
living in the world. Of wow, Ihave all these wonderful
opportunities that keeppresenting themselves. So those
are the three steps and the onefinal action that we can take to
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shift our or reset our financialthermostats.
Agi Keramidas (25:13):
This is great.
Let me repeat it in my own wordsto see how well i i go to
university. You know, repetitionis the mother of learning your
skill, and so the first step isto acknowledge those blocks that
we have. The second is torelease them, and actually, I
will ask a little bit more aboutthat. The third is to, I don't
remember how we said it, but itwas to replace that we live with
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something that is empowering,and then go out in the world and
watch how these things appear ormanifest. You use that word. Let
me ask a couple of two things,and then we can perhaps go
deeper on something particularthat you might want to discuss
as an action for the listener.
(26:02):
But I do have a couple of more.
First, when you were sayingyou're describing the second
step about, you know, releasingit to the universe, a higher
power, something external of us,the description of the
techniques of what you didsounds very simple. Is it really
as simple as that, justdeclaring it? And you know, of
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course, you said it's importantto feel it and to do it, to
repeat it. But is it really assimple as that, that step? I
mean, I don't mean the wholeprocess, but
Pericles Rellas (26:41):
no, I understand, of course, the most
powerful solutions, and we'veseen this in in, you know, time
and time again throughouthistory, the most powerful
solutions are oftentimes themost simple. And that doesn't
mean that they're easy toaccomplish. It just means, I
love the the idea of magic. Youknow, we'll see a magic trick.
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Oh my gosh, that's amazing, andthen suddenly they'll show us
how it's done. You think howstupid and simple was that? I
can't believe it, and it's thesame, it's the same concept. The
problem is, imagine that there'ssomething that's occurred in
your life, and all you need todo is apologize to someone. Just
say you're sorry. It's thatsimple, I'm sorry, two words, a
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contraction in a word, I'msorry. And yet, think about how
hard it is to actually formulatethose two words in the moment.
We know it can make all thedifference in the world. It can
end the strife or thedisagreement or whatever's going
on even with somebody we trulycare about. I can't say I'm
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sorry. I just can't bring myselfto say I'm sorry or to forgive
so the action is very simple.
It's the mind that keeps us fromactually taking it. So when I
was talking about releasing it.
It's, it's funny when I'mworking with people and they're
and they're in that stage,they're like, Okay, now let it
go. And they're struggling tolet it go. As simple as it is to
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say, I release it, I let it go.
It no longer has dominion. It's,oftentimes we can equate it to
almost like, I'm gonna let go ofmy right arm. I'm gonna let go
of because it's been a part ofus for so long. It's been an
integral part of the way we'veinteracted with life. And again,
it's very familiar. You know, Iused my dad was a great example.
Is about quitting smoking. Mydad was a smoker his whole life.
(28:36):
He could, he could quit likethat. You could literally stop
like that. But he always wentback to it because he loved it
so much. It was so familiar forhim. For some people, it's very
challenging to quit, but thesimple action of stop putting
cigarettes in your mouth, it's avery simple action. It's very
just stop putting cigarettes inyour mouth. But for people who
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are smokers, it is a hugeproblem. It is a it's an
addiction. It is something wecannot do as easily as we'd like
other people would like us todo. So that's where that
complexity comes in, and that iswhy it is a very challenging yet
simple action to let it go, justlike stop putting cigarettes in
your mouth. Sounds really easy,but for the smoker, it isn't,
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and we have to have compassionand understanding for that. Did
I answer your question Yes, ordid
Agi Keramidas (29:27):
and no, I agree.
And the young also thedistinction between simple but
not easy, it is very, veryimportant. Easy. Simple is one
thing. Easy is a different Yes.
Let me ask you one more thing.
Because you were saying this,you didn't go use the word
affirmation. I don't think youdid anyway, but what you said
that money flows to me. I don'tremember how you said it
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exactly, but I will tell you theone that there is one
affirmation that I have beenusing for a while, a long while.
Actually it's very similar, andit says money flows freely and
easily to me for the greatergood of all so I'm sharing this.
And actually this is the firsttime I share public this is one
of the main affirmations that Iuse. So I would like your
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thoughts about it. And there is,you said something, and I took
it very useful you were sayingabout feeling, the feeling of,
you know, the money flowingeasily abundantly, and that is,
I think, the very big differencebetween words on a piece of
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paper or spoken out loud andactually changing the vibration
to match this word. Yes,
Pericles Rellas (30:50):
it's if we equate it, let's imagine we're
gonna say I love you to someone,but we don't truly love them. I
love you. We can say I love you.
The words are there, but wedon't feel it. Then imagine
saying I love you and actuallyfeeling it. They're two totally
different worlds, totallydifferent experiences. And when
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you say I love you, when we sayI love you to someone, and we
feel it, they feel it. They canexperience it in a different
way, and it's the same thingwhen we're creating this new
relationship to money that wewant. And Agi, I want to speak
to because I love what you'vecreated. There are two things I
want to say about this reallyimportant The first one is many
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people, they have affirmationsand they have or they're trying
to manifest, and they'restruggling because they don't
understand why it's not working.
It's not working because theyhaven't done the first two
steps. We can't manifest on topof a negative. We just like we
can't build a house on top of nofoundation. The house will
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crumble. We need that powerfulfoundation in this conversation.
That powerful foundation startswith us, acknowledging, owning
and then releasing that negativeconversation. It would be like,
I've got a mud pie. Here's a mudpie for you. I'm going to put
some really nice frosting on topof it. That's the manifestation,
or the affirmation. Well, themud pie is still underneath
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there, and it poisons everythingthat's being put on top of it.
So we need to get rid of the mudpie and then create from
nothing. Now, I love what youcreated. Money flows freely to
me for the greater good of all Ithink was really freelance,
freely and easily, yes, and so Ilove the first part of it is so
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nice, I'm suspicious about thesecond part. If I can be honest
with you here, that's why thisconversation, I appreciate it,
yes, for the greater good of allsounds to me that there's a
concern that if I have too muchmoney, I'm going to be a bad
person unless I give it away.
And so I want it. I want to makesure the reason I bring it up is
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for because often, a lot oftimes, I'll say something, okay,
what would you do if I gave youa million dollars? Well, I
donate a lot of it to charity,as if that suddenly compensates
for I'm a bad person, becauseI've got a lot of money, so I
need to give a lot of way tocharity. Yes, right? I want to
make sure for you, and foranyone that's in this
conversation, that that negativemindset, that block in the flow,
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that money is somehow evil, iscleared, because, look, the
bottom line is, money is notevil. Money is not good. It's
just money. It can only provideus with the things that it can
provide us with. It can't buy ushappiness, it can't buy us
security. It can't buy usfreedom. It can't buy us a sense
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of fulfillment or satisfaction.
We like to think that it canlook money. Can Buy us lots of
things that we enjoy. I surroundmyself with beautiful things,
and I love them, but they're notthe source of my happiness,
they're not the source of myfulfillment. They're just things
that I can bring into my life tohelp supplement but it is not
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the source of my joy andhappiness. I've worked with
billionaires, people who are onthe Forbes list billionaires,
and I've watched how miserablethey are. I've watched how
fearful they are because theydon't know what's coming next,
fearful of losing a child, youknow, to a divorce, or losing
money to a lawsuit or whateverit is, they don't have a sense
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of security. They don't have asense of fulfillment. And I've
worked with people have verylittle money who have all of
those things. They havefulfillment and joy and
happiness and security in theirlives because they know where it
actually comes from. So whenwe're in this conversation of
creating something newly, wewant to be really clear about,
am I compensating for thisnegative thought that I have,
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that money's evil, or money'sbad, or money will make me bad,
or am I freed up from that? HaveI let that concern? Earn go, and
now I'm creating somethingnewly. And one last tidbit that
I'll offer, if I may, is moneywill amplify. It is not good and
it's not evil. Money willamplify the personality traits
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that you choose to allow it toamplify. And what I mean by that
is we all have propensities tobe good and bad, just it's part
of who we are. We can be good orwe can be bad. We get to choose
whether we're good or bad. Whenwe get more money, it will
amplify the behaviors that wechoose to focus on, which is why
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we see sometimes people with alot of money and they're
horrible. They treat peoplehorribly. They behave horribly.
They think they can do whateverthey want, whenever they want.
That's not a function of themoney. That's just the money
amplifying the behaviors thatthey choose to amplify. And the
opposite, opposite is true aswell. We see people with lots of
money who are so magnanimous andso gracious and kind with their
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money. So don't worry aboutmoney being the root of all
evil. You are the source of thatmoney will just amplify whatever
you choose to allow it toamplify. So did I want to make
sure I spoke to your, your yourquestion about your your
manifestation or youraffirmation, and if that
provided something for you,
Agi Keramidas (36:17):
it has. And thank you for for that on on a
conscious level, that was neverthe intention behind that
phrase, for the greater good ofall. But since you mentioned
that, I will certainly do somequite reflection time later. And
Pericles Rellas (36:34):
it may or may not I just don't know it's that
was shown
Agi Keramidas (36:38):
yes for the attention is that, you know, the
more I can, the more powerfinancially I have, the more
power I have to the for thegreater good. It's what you were
saying about, you know,amplifying the gas. So that was
the intention when written. Butit's a fair point, and I will
look into it, you know, at thedeeper level per case, this is
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such a wonderful conversation.
So thank you very insightful andquite practical as well. I think
with the steps and the way thatyou broke it down, I do have
some final, quick questions, butbefore we wrap it up. Where do
you want to direct ourlisteners, the mastery seeker
that wants to continue thejourney and the learning?
Pericles Rellas (37:33):
Yes, if in the course of this conversation,
you've something's touched you,something's inspired you,
something's kind of beentriggered, and you want to
pursue more, you can go to mywebsite at Pericles, rellis.com,
or reset your financialthermostat.com they both go to
the same place, and right thereon the main page is a link to
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watch my free master class whereI share with you the Four Keys
to resetting your financialthermostat. It is a short video.
It's about 27 minutes, and itreally demonstrates and breaks
down what we need to do to resetour financial thermostat. And I
do this because I want as manypeople as possible to have
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access to this conversation sothey can start creating the kind
of life that they have withmoney. And if it isn't something
that inspires you, I recommendfind something that does inspire
you, find the thing that willwork for you, pull that towards
you and go for it as much aspossible.
Agi Keramidas (38:31):
Very true, very true. I do have also two quick
questions for you Berkeley, andthe first one is, what does
personal development mean toyou.
Pericles Rellas (38:43):
It means going where you choose to go. So for
each person, personaldevelopment looks different. You
know, for some people, it maybe, I want to, I want to live in
a world where I'm healthy andI'm well and I and I'm
constantly striving to be myfittest so that I can live a
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long life. For other people,it's I want to make a difference
in the world, and I want to lookto see what are the things that
are stopping me from being thatperson that wants to make a
difference. So it really is forother people, it's a spiritual
path. For other people, it's areligious path. Whatever that
path is for you, make sure thatit's true to who you are. So for
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me, it's all about making adifference in the world. That is
my commitment, and every wordthat comes out of my mouth,
every action that I take whenI'm in the mode of making a
difference, there are times whenI'm just off, I'm watching TV
and I'm hanging out and justdoing what I'm doing, or I'm at
the gym, and you know, I'm noton, I'm not in that
conversation. I'm just doingwhat I do. I'm always great with
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people. I'm always gracious withpeople, at least that's my
intention. Do I make mistakes?
Absolutely, I screw the poochall the time, and then I'm
willing to acknowledge. It andclean it up and figure out, what
do I need to do to be a betterperson, to be a bigger person,
to be a wiser person. So for me,it's about the journey you're
on, and are you being true tothat path, whatever that path
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is, and always looking here forthat barometer of truth, not
outside of you. It doesn't existoutside of you. It only exists
here. This is the only barometerthat we use to gage anything is
inside.
Agi Keramidas (40:26):
Beautiful answer and a hypothetical question, if
you could go back in time andmeet your 18 year old self,
what's one piece of advice youwould give him?
Pericles Rellas (40:37):
Let go of your fear. Let go of your fear. It's
all going to be okay. I wasdriven by and sourced by and run
by fear for many, many, manyyears.
Agi Keramidas (40:52):
Pericles, I want to express my gratitude for this
conversation. It was trulyinsightful, and I mean it so
thank you for your time, wishingyou all the best carrying on
with sharing this message andempowering people. I will leave
(41:12):
it for your parting words andperhaps also one last piece of
advice for the listener that hasrealized now that they need to
do something about their moneythermostat.
Pericles Rellas (41:27):
Know that we've never arrived. We're going to be
on the journey most of ourlives, because the moment we hit
a destination, the first thingwe do as human beings is okay,
did it all right? What's next?
And we're going to be on thenext journey to the next
destination. So embrace thejourney. Love where you are
right now. Love the people whoare around you. And if you don't
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love the people who are aroundyou, find people you do love to
have be around you. Be empoweredby the circle of people who are
around you. Be empowered fromyourself and empower those
around you as well, and you willfind that you will have lived a
life that you love, becauseevery single day will be filled
with the love and joy that youhave for yourself, for the
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people around you and for thejourney that you're on. Find
your path, stay on it and lovethe journey.
Agi Keramidas (42:24):
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think of someone else you knowwho might find it useful and
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thank you. And until next time,stand out, don't fit in.
Have you ever felt like no matter how much
money you make, you always endup in the same financial
situation. In this episode, 480you will discover why making
more money won't solve yourfinancial problems unless you
fix this one thing first,welcome to Personal Development
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develop self mastery anddiscover their calling so you
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Agi Keramidas By listening tothis episode, you are going to
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You will also learn the threesteps to identifying and
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Today it is my real pleasure tospeak with Pericles Rellas.
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Pericles, you are a moneymindset expert with over 20
years of experience helpingpeople transform their
relationship with money. Youhave worked with 10s of 1000s of
individuals uncovering thehidden patterns that keep them
stuck in cycles of financialstress, and you are passionate
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about empowering people totransform their relationship
with money break free from thecycle of financial stress and
create a mindset for wealth andfreedom. Pericles, welcome to
the so I'm delighted to speakwith you today.
Pericles Rellas (02:11):
Agi, thank you for having me on. I appreciate
it. It's great to be here.
Agi Keramidas (02:15):
And if at some point during a conversation I
call you, Pericles, it will be,because I will be using, you
know, the actual Greek versionthe pronunciation of yours.
Pericles Rellas (02:27):
Absolutely welcome to do so.
Agi Keramidas (02:30):
So I think from the even the quick introduction
I gave of you, it is very clearthat today we will talk about
money mindset in particular, youdiscuss about the concept of the
money thermostat, which it is avery important and pertinent,
(02:53):
especially these times topic. Sowe'll invite the listener right
now, if you've ever wondered howto change perhaps your limiting
beliefs about money, thisconversation is for you. The
first thing I will ask Periclesis just give us a brief
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definition of or an overview ofthe concept of the financial
thermostat. Of
Pericles Rellas (03:22):
course, it. The reason I use it is it, it really
puts it into a format thatalmost anyone can relate to. We
we've all interacted with athermostat at some point,
whether it's on an oven or inour home or our car, and it's
got one purpose. All it does isregulate the temperature. So if
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we set it at 72 degrees, if it'scold outside, the heat will come
on, and it'll bring the roomback up to 72 degrees. And the
opposite is true as well. Ifit's really hot outside, and it
goes up to 90, the AC will kickon and it will bring the room
back down to that temperature.
And what we don't notice or knowabout ourselves is that we all
have an internal financialthermostat, and that thermostat
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regulates how much money we canearn, how much money we can
keep, as well as our thoughts,feelings and emotions around
money. And so for those of yourlisteners who are thinking, wow,
I've been struggling with, withnot being able to make more my
whole life, or I can make lots,but I can't keep it, or I'm
always stressed about money thatis not a defect of you or a
(04:28):
problem is just the financialthermostat setting that you have
in that area. And so I work withpeople to first see what their
financial thermostat setting is,and then reset it so they can
make the kind of money that theywant and have the kind of life
that they're looking for.
Agi Keramidas (04:48):
This is great, and we will go into detail about
the thermostat, because thefirst thing we need to
understand is how thatthermostat was set in the first
place. Because. Before we gothere. Tell us what. What
inspired you to dedicate yourwork in, you know, helping
people shift their moneymindset.
Pericles Rellas (05:10):
Yeah, when I first started working, I was, I
was a coach. I wanted to coachpeople who were opening a
business, or people who justwanted to make more money be
more successful in their lives,that was my focus. And as I
started working with my firstclients 30 years ago, I noticed
within the first six months,they were making more money,
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which was great. That for me,was success. I wanted them to
have the success that they werelooking for. But what I also
noticed was every single time Ispoke with them, they were still
in the same place they werebefore I started working with
them, meaning they were somebodythat was always just behind at
the end of every month, theywere still just behind every
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single month, even though theywere making a lot more money. Or
if there was somebody that wasalways just breaking even, they
were still just breaking even,even though they were making a
lot more money, and the samething for stress or anxiety or
or worry about money, they weremaking more money. And yet this
was still the situation thatthey were in. And I looked at it
and thought, okay, everyone'sdealing with this across the
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board. Something must be goingon here that I'm not seeing. And
so I spent the next two years,really looking at it and
researching it and thinkingabout it and inquiring with my
clients, okay, what's going onhere, what's going on there? And
over the course of that time, Icame up with the financial
thermostat and how it regulatesand limits what we can do around
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money, and then also the fourkeys to resetting your financial
thermostat. And so at thatstage, I started to implement
these distinctions with myclients, and the results were
extraordinary. And my clientskept saying, Oh, I have a friend
who needs this, and I havesomebody else who needs this.
And it just naturally grew andevolved into me becoming this
focus of as a coach, a moneymindset focus for people to
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reset their financialthermostats. So it was very
organic in the wake arose, butit became a passion for me over
the years, because I see howpeople's mindsets can really
limit their ability to createthe kind of life that they're
looking for. Thank
Agi Keramidas (07:17):
you. And I think anyone that has been in a
situation like you justdescribed, like having, let's
say, increased earnings andstill being in the same, you
know, result at the end of amonth or a period, I think they
can understand, and perhaps theyhave not even considered that
(07:38):
term. So let's talk about themoney thermostat, or the
financial thermostat. How doesit get set in the first place?
Is it like what we get from ourparents, or are also events
during our life that can changeit
Pericles Rellas (07:54):
all of the above, you're absolutely right.
And in for some of us, we havegenerational money mindsets. You
know, we have, we have thingsthat are passed on from our
parents and our grandparents andbefore them, and we don't even
realize that it's there. I, forme, personally, one of the
biggest breakthroughs I had onceI started this education and
(08:15):
started this conversation is Iremember this time when I was a
little boy, I was about sixyears old, and we were watching,
as a family, a show you may knowor may not know, especially
across the pond, calledlifestyles of the rich and
famous. And you can imagine thetheme of this. It was all about,
you know, a focus on a familythat that was very wealthy, and
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generally it was, you know, justwhat their lives look like. It
was kind of a peek behind thecurtains. But this particular
episode was how this wealthyfamily came to be wealthy, but
also how it destroyed theirfamily, how miserable they all
were. And I remember as the showended, my mother said very
nonchalant. She wasn't trying toreally make a point beyond a
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casual comment, I never want tohave that kind of money. You'll
lose your whole family. And inthat instant, that six year old
boy not knowing what I wasdoing, but subconsciously, I
made the decision, never maketoo much money, because you'll
lose your whole family. And assomeone who loves my family, I
didn't want to lose them. Andthat became the glass ceiling
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financially, or my financialthermostat setting that stopped
me from ever getting beyond acertain amount of money. And I
remember struggling with it. Iremember fighting with it. I
remember saying, I'm gonna getto the next level no matter
what, if it kills me. And itwas, it was a struggle, and I
couldn't get there. And then,when I started to create this
(09:44):
education, I was able totransform it in a very short
period of time by implementingthe steps that I have to
resetting any particular settingthat we have. And so for me, I
can trace it back to that.
Conversation when I was a sixyear old boy, and for all of us,
it can be our family members. Itcan be people that are
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influential around us. It can beaunts or uncles or teachers or
friends or family members thatare extended or simply watching
a TV show and seeing somethingthat impacts us at a deep level,
that we make a decision about,and then suddenly it's running
the show for the rest of ourlives.
Agi Keramidas (10:26):
So how about events in our adult life? Is
that also something that canhappen, that can change the
thermostat?
Pericles Rellas (10:37):
Yes, absolutely. As we get older, I
think that there are less thingsthat influence us at a
subconscious level around money,because our our kind of, our
money mindset or thermostat isset, there are things that can
make dings to it, and it dependson what we what we bring to the
conversation we need to be In aconversation of, I'm committed
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to changing. I'm committed tohaving something different. And
when we're in that place, itopens up to okay, there's this
possibility of making anadjustment, both negative and
positive, but sometimes we needthat outside influence to be
able to point out what we can'tsee. It's one of the reasons
great athletes and greatbusiness leaders have coaches is
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so the coach can point out whatthey can't see, because you
can't change what's there withthe same mindset that you use to
get where you are. So we need toshift our mindset, and
oftentimes that requires somesort of outside influence.
Sometimes it's just watching aYouTube video or reading a book
or listening to someone likethis in this conversation, and
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other times, it takes a moreintimate, focused conversation.
But yes, it is possible to makethose adjustments as we get
older, and in my case, I'mlooking at making it in a
positive way for people, of
Agi Keramidas (11:56):
course. So have you? Have you noticed people
changing their thermostat justby watching a talk or just for
some people, Is it as simple asthat? I
Pericles Rellas (12:09):
think it's it's both. For some people, it can be
as simple as that. There arethings that I've accomplished in
my life that I never thought Icould accomplish simply by
reading a very influential book.
It would need to be the rightbook for you, for me, right? So
one of the things that I like toimpress upon people is that
there is no one right answer foreveryone. If you meet someone
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and says, Well, I have theanswer. It's the answer for
everyone, and nobody else has itrun. That is not the person you
want to be working with, becausethey are going to just sell you
whatever they have to sell you.
For me, it's about find someoneand or something that works for
you, and as long as it inspiresyou, as long as you're getting
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the outcome that you wantcontinue to do it, and then be
okay with coming to the end ofthat particular journey. Because
there are times. There was atime when I was doing
journaling, and it was amazing.
And I had this whole process byjournaling. And then there was a
day I woke up and it was kind oflike, okay, I'm done journaling.
Well, I didn't think, okay, mylife's over, and this is
horrible, and try to force it. Ijust realized, no, there's
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something now for me to move onto. And I found the next thing,
and then I found the next thing.
So find the thing that works foryou, because at the end of the
day, that's what's going to workfor you.
Agi Keramidas (13:24):
If you enjoy this episode, can you think of one
person that would find it usefuland share it with them? I'd
really appreciate it, and youwill also be adding value to
people you care about. And nowlet's get back to the episode.
Thank you, and I completelyagree with what you said about
not one solution, not only tothat, but generally with in the
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field of personal development, Idon't think there is, or there
would be, one solution. Let'smove on very please and okay, I
we get it now, the moneythermostat, and that you also
use the phrase glass ceiling,which, I think it's a very nice
way to also describe it. So,what are the steps of resetting
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the money thermostat? Or what?
What does this? Let's start withthat, and then I will ask you
about perhaps some steps alongthe journey that we realize that
things are changing.
Pericles Rellas (14:26):
The first step to understanding the steps for
resetting any area of ourfinancial thermostat is
understanding how money flows.
Money is a currency, and as acurrency, it flows like a
current, and a current can beelectricity, it can be water, it
can be wind. We've allinteracted with currents at some
point in our lives. Money flowsin a distinct way, in that it
flows in a circle, and weintersect that circle so it
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flows to us, through us and awayfrom us, and then back around to
us, through us and away from us.
And then there's a reservoir onthe side that we. To keep. Now,
because money flows in thiscircle, blocks anywhere in that
flow are blocks everywhere inthat flow, including that
reservoir on the side that weget to keep. So the first thing
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we want to do is look to see,well, what are my blocks in the
flow coming to me? And then theblocks in the flow of money
going away from me so blocks inthe flow of money coming to us
can look like I hate thewealthy. I hate my boss. I think
that money is the root of allevil. Those are just three very
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simple examples, and probablythe most powerful of all of
them. If we resent the wealthy,or we hate the wealthy, or we
think money is the root of allevil. We will never be able to
become wealthy, because we can'tbecome that which we resent or
that which we hate. And we don'tlook at it from that
perspective, but we think fromOh, well, I don't want that much
(15:56):
money, but in the world of more,there is no distinction. If I
give you a single penny, you nowhave more than you had a second
ago. That makes you wealthierthan you were. And when we start
making those kind of decisionsand judgments about wealth, the
universe doesn't parse it out bypennies or nickels or dimes. It
(16:17):
just says they don't want moremoney, because money is the root
of all evil. And so we want toclear those blocks out, and I'll
show you how to do that in justa moment. Blocks in the flow of
money going away from us canlook like I hate paying my bills
on time. I resent paying mybills. I never pay people what
they want. I always try tonegotiate it down. I will hold
(16:40):
on to my money as long as I can,I Penny pinch every penny. Those
are blocks in the flow of moneygoing away from us. And again,
any one of those blocks impactsthe money flowing to us, through
us and away from us. Andultimately, that reservoir on
the side, that reservoir on theside, can have blocks too money
flowing to that reservoir on theside. I don't deserve money. I
(17:01):
don't deserve to have a lot ofmoney. Those conversations can
block you being able to savemoney on that reservoir on the
side. So now that we've seenwhat the flow of money is and
how we can block it, the nextstep is to clear those blocks
out. And we can have many, manydifferent blocks, but we want to
start with the most predominantone, and that for some of you
(17:24):
listening, may very well havebeen when I said Money is the
root of all evil, or I hate thewealthy, whatever that may be.
For you, you can just stop andthink about what's your
relationship to money, or whatdo you think when you think
about money? And that will beone of the blocks, if it's
negative, that will be one ofthe blocks in the flow of money
for you. So the first step toclearing these blocks is one,
(17:46):
notice it and acknowledge it.
This is so important, if wedon't notice it and acknowledge
it, we're never going to be ableto get beyond it. It's kind of
like the alcoholic saying I'm analcoholic, that acknowledgement
gives us power over it, ratherthan it having power over us.
And so we want to acknowledgeit. Oh, this has been my
conversation for 20 years or 30years, or I don't even know how
(18:07):
long it's been, but I've gotthis conversation and this block
around money I can own that thesecond step. Before
Agi Keramidas (18:16):
we go to the second step one, please question
about this first step. So isthere any particular process
that you advise in order toidentify these blocks? Because
it's one thing to talk aboutthese blocks, but as you very
well know, they are mostlyhappening on the subconscious
level, and I might not, forexample, necessarily be aware
(18:39):
that when I'm paying money Ihave at the back of my mind the
thought that, you know, yes, sohow, how do we bring those
blocks into light?
Pericles Rellas (18:55):
This is a great question, and one that comes up
from time to time, becausesometimes, like for me when I
was a six year old boy, we maynot be able to identify that
particular incident or episodeor moment in time, and sometimes
it's just a matter of, I don'tknow what it is, but I can't get
beyond this place. We knowthere's an it there. We may not
(19:17):
be able to identify its originor it in particular, but we can
identify that there's an itthere, that's a block, and all
we need to do is make thatdeclaration. I don't know
exactly what it is, but I knowit's there, and I know it's been
there for a long time, and I canown that it's been there and
(19:38):
that it's been stopping me fromgetting to where I want so I can
own that it is there. So forthose of you who are concerned
about that, don't worry aboutfinding the exact time or day
people spend years in therapytrying to figure out why they
are the way they are. And I'mnot dissing therapy. It's
awesome for many people, butsometimes people, they spend
years and 1000s and $1,000trying. Figure out why they are
(20:00):
the way they are, and then theyfigure it out. And I say, Great,
did it make a difference? Oh,no, I'm still the same way. I
just know now, why, why it is sothat's not the key here. The key
is just noticing that there issomething there, if you can
identify it, great, if not justuse it there is that it? There?
Own it. Okay, I've got this. Itthere, then the next step is and
(20:23):
this can be the hardest one,because it has been there for a
long time. It's familiar, it'scomfortable, and many times
we're actually addicted to it.
We're addicted to that sense ofwhatever it provides us, because
it's familiar. The next step isletting it go, and we need to
say it out loud, and we need tofeel it leaving us, and we need
(20:44):
to send it away to whatever itis we want to send it away. So
for me, it could be Iacknowledge that I've had this
conversation, that I will losemy family if, if I make too much
money, I am surrendering thatconversation into the care of
the universe. It could be God,it could be the universe. It
(21:05):
could be the mountains, theocean, the beach, whatever it
is, just something outside ofyourself. It's irrelevant where
it's going. It's just thatyou're sending it away. I
surrender that conversation intothe care of the universe. I turn
it over to the universe. Irelease it from my life. It is
no longer welcome in my world.
(21:25):
It no longer has dominion overme. It no longer has power or
influence over me. I release youand surrender you to a higher
power, whatever that is, and youkeep saying it until you feel
even the slightest sense ofrelief or release, or it lifting
away. And that's the secondstep. And then in that moment
when you feel that sense, andyou have to feel it, it can't be
(21:49):
just something you're justrotely saying, you have to
actually feel it. When you feelit, then you create, what is
your relationship with moneynewly? And for me, it's money
flows to me freely andabundantly every single day.
That's what I created. Moneyflows to me easily and
(22:10):
abundantly every single day, andI can feel that, and I can see
and feel and hear and experiencemoney flowing to me easily and
abundantly every single day.
That's the third step. Now, oncewe've taken these three steps,
it's not just over. It's notlike suddenly, it's daffodils
and daisies and bunny rabbitsjumping around and millions of
(22:32):
dollars flowing to us. We needwe've been doing what we've been
doing. It has been running theshow for decades. Sometimes we
need to now keep generating thatnew relationship to money and be
watching for it showing up inour lives. Because what we're
doing is there. There are twoworlds we're creating or working
inside of, one's energetic andone is brain science. So brain
(22:54):
science is we're creating newneural pathways. We're breaking
the old neural pathways thathave been there forever and ever
and ever. We're breaking them byacknowledging it and releasing
it, and then we're creating anew neural pathway. We need to
build those new neural pathwaysover and over and over again and
make them stronger and strongerand stronger so they become the
predominant conversation that wehave. On an energetic level,
(23:17):
we're shifting our vibrationalfrequency. For those of you who
follow Abraham Hicks, thingslike that, the power of
manifestation, the law ofattraction, we're shifting our
vibrational frequency by firstacknowledging and releasing the
old vibrational frequency andnow creating a new vibrational
frequency, which is why it's soimportant that we feel it,
(23:39):
because that's when we knowwe're vibrating at a new
frequency. Now we go out intothe world and we're looking for,
oh, wow, there's money, there'smoney, there's money. We're
acknowledging it. We'reexpressing gratitude for it. And
as that starts to happen, thatnew conversation becomes the
predominant conversation, thatold conversation will never go
(24:00):
away. It will get quieter andquieter and quieter and less
frequent, but it will show upfrom time to time you do the
same three steps all over again.
Oh, there's that oldconversation I can own that I've
released you. I'm letting you goagain. You're no longer welcome
in my world. Here's who I amnow. Money flows to me freely
and abundantly every single day.
Take on those it's three stepsplus an action once you take
(24:24):
those three steps, and thenyou're out in the world watching
for the evidence of it showingup, pulling that evidence toward
Oh, I found a penny. Thank youfor putting money in front of
me. Thank you for showing methat money flows to me freely
and abundantly every single day.
Oh, there's another opportunityI'm going to look at. That
(24:44):
opportunity doesn't mean youhave to take it, but we're
looking at all the opportunitiesthat are being put in front of
us as a result of this newrelationship we have for money.
We're exploring them, we'relooking at them, we're
considering them. We don't haveto take them all, but we're
living in the world. Of wow, Ihave all these wonderful
opportunities that keeppresenting themselves. So those
are the three steps and the onefinal action that we can take to
(25:08):
shift our or reset our financialthermostats.
Agi Keramidas (25:13):
This is great.
Let me repeat it in my own wordsto see how well i i go to
university. You know, repetitionis the mother of learning your
skill, and so the first step isto acknowledge those blocks that
we have. The second is torelease them, and actually, I
will ask a little bit more aboutthat. The third is to, I don't
remember how we said it, but itwas to replace that we live with
(25:38):
something that is empowering,and then go out in the world and
watch how these things appear ormanifest. You use that word. Let
me ask a couple of two things,and then we can perhaps go
deeper on something particularthat you might want to discuss
as an action for the listener.
(26:02):
But I do have a couple of more.
First, when you were sayingyou're describing the second
step about, you know, releasingit to the universe, a higher
power, something external of us,the description of the
techniques of what you didsounds very simple. Is it really
as simple as that, justdeclaring it? And you know, of
(26:26):
course, you said it's importantto feel it and to do it, to
repeat it. But is it really assimple as that, that step? I
mean, I don't mean the wholeprocess, but
Pericles Rellas (26:41):
no, I understand, of course, the most
powerful solutions, and we'veseen this in in, you know, time
and time again throughouthistory, the most powerful
solutions are oftentimes themost simple. And that doesn't
mean that they're easy toaccomplish. It just means, I
love the the idea of magic. Youknow, we'll see a magic trick.
(27:03):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing, andthen suddenly they'll show us
how it's done. You think howstupid and simple was that? I
can't believe it, and it's thesame, it's the same concept. The
problem is, imagine that there'ssomething that's occurred in
your life, and all you need todo is apologize to someone. Just
say you're sorry. It's thatsimple, I'm sorry, two words, a
(27:28):
contraction in a word, I'msorry. And yet, think about how
hard it is to actually formulatethose two words in the moment.
We know it can make all thedifference in the world. It can
end the strife or thedisagreement or whatever's going
on even with somebody we trulycare about. I can't say I'm
(27:48):
sorry. I just can't bring myselfto say I'm sorry or to forgive
so the action is very simple.
It's the mind that keeps us fromactually taking it. So when I
was talking about releasing it.
It's, it's funny when I'mworking with people and they're
and they're in that stage,they're like, Okay, now let it
go. And they're struggling tolet it go. As simple as it is to
(28:13):
say, I release it, I let it go.
It no longer has dominion. It's,oftentimes we can equate it to
almost like, I'm gonna let go ofmy right arm. I'm gonna let go
of because it's been a part ofus for so long. It's been an
integral part of the way we'veinteracted with life. And again,
it's very familiar. You know, Iused my dad was a great example.
Is about quitting smoking. Mydad was a smoker his whole life.
(28:36):
He could, he could quit likethat. You could literally stop
like that. But he always wentback to it because he loved it
so much. It was so familiar forhim. For some people, it's very
challenging to quit, but thesimple action of stop putting
cigarettes in your mouth, it's avery simple action. It's very
just stop putting cigarettes inyour mouth. But for people who
(28:58):
are smokers, it is a hugeproblem. It is a it's an
addiction. It is something wecannot do as easily as we'd like
other people would like us todo. So that's where that
complexity comes in, and that iswhy it is a very challenging yet
simple action to let it go, justlike stop putting cigarettes in
your mouth. Sounds really easy,but for the smoker, it isn't,
(29:20):
and we have to have compassionand understanding for that. Did
I answer your question Yes, ordid
Agi Keramidas (29:27):
and no, I agree.
And the young also thedistinction between simple but
not easy, it is very, veryimportant. Easy. Simple is one
thing. Easy is a different Yes.
Let me ask you one more thing.
Because you were saying this,you didn't go use the word
affirmation. I don't think youdid anyway, but what you said
that money flows to me. I don'tremember how you said it
(29:51):
exactly, but I will tell you theone that there is one
affirmation that I have beenusing for a while, a long while.
Actually it's very similar, andit says money flows freely and
easily to me for the greatergood of all so I'm sharing this.
And actually this is the firsttime I share public this is one
of the main affirmations that Iuse. So I would like your
(30:16):
thoughts about it. And there is,you said something, and I took
it very useful you were sayingabout feeling, the feeling of,
you know, the money flowingeasily abundantly, and that is,
I think, the very big differencebetween words on a piece of
(30:37):
paper or spoken out loud andactually changing the vibration
to match this word. Yes,
Pericles Rellas (30:50):
it's if we equate it, let's imagine we're
gonna say I love you to someone,but we don't truly love them. I
love you. We can say I love you.
The words are there, but wedon't feel it. Then imagine
saying I love you and actuallyfeeling it. They're two totally
different worlds, totallydifferent experiences. And when
(31:11):
you say I love you, when we sayI love you to someone, and we
feel it, they feel it. They canexperience it in a different
way, and it's the same thingwhen we're creating this new
relationship to money that wewant. And Agi, I want to speak
to because I love what you'vecreated. There are two things I
want to say about this reallyimportant The first one is many
(31:33):
people, they have affirmationsand they have or they're trying
to manifest, and they'restruggling because they don't
understand why it's not working.
It's not working because theyhaven't done the first two
steps. We can't manifest on topof a negative. We just like we
can't build a house on top of nofoundation. The house will
(31:56):
crumble. We need that powerfulfoundation in this conversation.
That powerful foundation startswith us, acknowledging, owning
and then releasing that negativeconversation. It would be like,
I've got a mud pie. Here's a mudpie for you. I'm going to put
some really nice frosting on topof it. That's the manifestation,
or the affirmation. Well, themud pie is still underneath
(32:17):
there, and it poisons everythingthat's being put on top of it.
So we need to get rid of the mudpie and then create from
nothing. Now, I love what youcreated. Money flows freely to
me for the greater good of all Ithink was really freelance,
freely and easily, yes, and so Ilove the first part of it is so
(32:40):
nice, I'm suspicious about thesecond part. If I can be honest
with you here, that's why thisconversation, I appreciate it,
yes, for the greater good of allsounds to me that there's a
concern that if I have too muchmoney, I'm going to be a bad
person unless I give it away.
And so I want it. I want to makesure the reason I bring it up is
(33:02):
for because often, a lot oftimes, I'll say something, okay,
what would you do if I gave youa million dollars? Well, I
donate a lot of it to charity,as if that suddenly compensates
for I'm a bad person, becauseI've got a lot of money, so I
need to give a lot of way tocharity. Yes, right? I want to
make sure for you, and foranyone that's in this
conversation, that that negativemindset, that block in the flow,
(33:24):
that money is somehow evil, iscleared, because, look, the
bottom line is, money is notevil. Money is not good. It's
just money. It can only provideus with the things that it can
provide us with. It can't buy ushappiness, it can't buy us
security. It can't buy usfreedom. It can't buy us a sense
(33:45):
of fulfillment or satisfaction.
We like to think that it canlook money. Can Buy us lots of
things that we enjoy. I surroundmyself with beautiful things,
and I love them, but they're notthe source of my happiness,
they're not the source of myfulfillment. They're just things
that I can bring into my life tohelp supplement but it is not
(34:08):
the source of my joy andhappiness. I've worked with
billionaires, people who are onthe Forbes list billionaires,
and I've watched how miserablethey are. I've watched how
fearful they are because theydon't know what's coming next,
fearful of losing a child, youknow, to a divorce, or losing
money to a lawsuit or whateverit is, they don't have a sense
(34:29):
of security. They don't have asense of fulfillment. And I've
worked with people have verylittle money who have all of
those things. They havefulfillment and joy and
happiness and security in theirlives because they know where it
actually comes from. So whenwe're in this conversation of
creating something newly, wewant to be really clear about,
am I compensating for thisnegative thought that I have,
(34:52):
that money's evil, or money'sbad, or money will make me bad,
or am I freed up from that? HaveI let that concern? Earn go, and
now I'm creating somethingnewly. And one last tidbit that
I'll offer, if I may, is moneywill amplify. It is not good and
it's not evil. Money willamplify the personality traits
(35:15):
that you choose to allow it toamplify. And what I mean by that
is we all have propensities tobe good and bad, just it's part
of who we are. We can be good orwe can be bad. We get to choose
whether we're good or bad. Whenwe get more money, it will
amplify the behaviors that wechoose to focus on, which is why
(35:35):
we see sometimes people with alot of money and they're
horrible. They treat peoplehorribly. They behave horribly.
They think they can do whateverthey want, whenever they want.
That's not a function of themoney. That's just the money
amplifying the behaviors thatthey choose to amplify. And the
opposite, opposite is true aswell. We see people with lots of
money who are so magnanimous andso gracious and kind with their
(35:56):
money. So don't worry aboutmoney being the root of all
evil. You are the source of thatmoney will just amplify whatever
you choose to allow it toamplify. So did I want to make
sure I spoke to your, your yourquestion about your your
manifestation or youraffirmation, and if that
provided something for you,
Agi Keramidas (36:17):
it has. And thank you for for that on on a
conscious level, that was neverthe intention behind that
phrase, for the greater good ofall. But since you mentioned
that, I will certainly do somequite reflection time later. And
Pericles Rellas (36:34):
it may or may not I just don't know it's that
was shown
Agi Keramidas (36:38):
yes for the attention is that, you know, the
more I can, the more powerfinancially I have, the more
power I have to the for thegreater good. It's what you were
saying about, you know,amplifying the gas. So that was
the intention when written. Butit's a fair point, and I will
look into it, you know, at thedeeper level per case, this is
(37:04):
such a wonderful conversation.
So thank you very insightful andquite practical as well. I think
with the steps and the way thatyou broke it down, I do have
some final, quick questions, butbefore we wrap it up. Where do
you want to direct ourlisteners, the mastery seeker
that wants to continue thejourney and the learning?
Pericles Rellas (37:33):
Yes, if in the course of this conversation,
you've something's touched you,something's inspired you,
something's kind of beentriggered, and you want to
pursue more, you can go to mywebsite at Pericles, rellis.com,
or reset your financialthermostat.com they both go to
the same place, and right thereon the main page is a link to
(37:54):
watch my free master class whereI share with you the Four Keys
to resetting your financialthermostat. It is a short video.
It's about 27 minutes, and itreally demonstrates and breaks
down what we need to do to resetour financial thermostat. And I
do this because I want as manypeople as possible to have
(38:15):
access to this conversation sothey can start creating the kind
of life that they have withmoney. And if it isn't something
that inspires you, I recommendfind something that does inspire
you, find the thing that willwork for you, pull that towards
you and go for it as much aspossible.
Agi Keramidas (38:31):
Very true, very true. I do have also two quick
questions for you Berkeley, andthe first one is, what does
personal development mean toyou.
Pericles Rellas (38:43):
It means going where you choose to go. So for
each person, personaldevelopment looks different. You
know, for some people, it maybe, I want to, I want to live in
a world where I'm healthy andI'm well and I and I'm
constantly striving to be myfittest so that I can live a
(39:04):
long life. For other people,it's I want to make a difference
in the world, and I want to lookto see what are the things that
are stopping me from being thatperson that wants to make a
difference. So it really is forother people, it's a spiritual
path. For other people, it's areligious path. Whatever that
path is for you, make sure thatit's true to who you are. So for
(39:27):
me, it's all about making adifference in the world. That is
my commitment, and every wordthat comes out of my mouth,
every action that I take whenI'm in the mode of making a
difference, there are times whenI'm just off, I'm watching TV
and I'm hanging out and justdoing what I'm doing, or I'm at
the gym, and you know, I'm noton, I'm not in that
conversation. I'm just doingwhat I do. I'm always great with
(39:49):
people. I'm always gracious withpeople, at least that's my
intention. Do I make mistakes?
Absolutely, I screw the poochall the time, and then I'm
willing to acknowledge. It andclean it up and figure out, what
do I need to do to be a betterperson, to be a bigger person,
to be a wiser person. So for me,it's about the journey you're
on, and are you being true tothat path, whatever that path
(40:10):
is, and always looking here forthat barometer of truth, not
outside of you. It doesn't existoutside of you. It only exists
here. This is the only barometerthat we use to gage anything is
inside.
Agi Keramidas (40:26):
Beautiful answer and a hypothetical question, if
you could go back in time andmeet your 18 year old self,
what's one piece of advice youwould give him?
Pericles Rellas (40:37):
Let go of your fear. Let go of your fear. It's
all going to be okay. I wasdriven by and sourced by and run
by fear for many, many, manyyears.
Agi Keramidas (40:52):
Pericles, I want to express my gratitude for this
conversation. It was trulyinsightful, and I mean it so
thank you for your time, wishingyou all the best carrying on
with sharing this message andempowering people. I will leave
(41:12):
it for your parting words andperhaps also one last piece of
advice for the listener that hasrealized now that they need to
do something about their moneythermostat.
Pericles Rellas (41:27):
Know that we've never arrived. We're going to be
on the journey most of ourlives, because the moment we hit
a destination, the first thingwe do as human beings is okay,
did it all right? What's next?
And we're going to be on thenext journey to the next
destination. So embrace thejourney. Love where you are
right now. Love the people whoare around you. And if you don't
(41:49):
love the people who are aroundyou, find people you do love to
have be around you. Be empoweredby the circle of people who are
around you. Be empowered fromyourself and empower those
around you as well, and you willfind that you will have lived a
life that you love, becauseevery single day will be filled
with the love and joy that youhave for yourself, for the
(42:14):
people around you and for thejourney that you're on. Find
your path, stay on it and lovethe journey.
Agi Keramidas (42:24):
I hope you have found this episode enlightening,
and I ask for one simple, quickfavor, if you like this podcast,
think of someone else you knowwho might find it useful and
share it with them. By doing so,you will not only help the
podcast grow, but also add valueto people you care about. So
(42:44):
thank you. And until next time,stand out, don't fit in.
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