What if your body has been guiding you all along and you just didn’t know how to listen?
So many of us push through emotional stress, unaware that it leaves energetic imprints on our bodies, influencing everything from our moods to physical health. This episode dives into the wisdom of the body and how our unconscious choices, like the colors we wear or the foods we crave, are rooted in energetic signals we’ve forgotten how to read.
- Discover how everyday choices like clothing color and food preferences are connected to your body’s energy systems and emotional needs.
- Learn how to clear emotional and energetic blockages through movement, meditation, and somatic awareness.
- Gain empowering insights from Banya's healing journey from trauma and illness to vibrant health using the principles of Qi and oriental medicine.
Tune in now to uncover how reconnecting with your body’s innate intelligence can transform your emotional well-being and guide you to your true purpose.
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KEY POINTS AND TIMESTAMPS:
02:00 - Introduction and Banya Lim’s Background
04:06 - Understanding Qi and Body Awareness
08:58 - Personal Healing Journey and Energetic Roots
14:18 - Emotions, Organs, and Energy Blockages
17:26 - Choosing Emotions and the Power of Awareness
22:14 - The 90-Second Rule and Emotional Energy
23:24 - Practical Tools: Movement and Meditation
28:25 - Reconnecting with Inner Knowing
31:05 - Free Clarity Session and Final Reflections
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MEMORABLE QUOTE:
"Do not waste your time caring about what other people say. They don't think about it as much as you think they do."
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Agi Keramidas (00:00):
What if your body has been guiding you all along
and you just didn't know how tolisten?
Welcome to personal developmentmastery, the podcast that helps
intelligent, busy professionalsdevelop self mastery and gain
(00:21):
clarity so you can thrive in afulfilling, purposeful life. I'm
your host, agiramidas, and thisis episode 518 if you are
looking to reconnect with yourbody and clear emotional
blockages, this conversationexplores how energy, movement
(00:43):
and awareness can guide yourhealing from within. By
listening today, you're going todiscover how everyday choices,
like the colour of our clothesand our food preferences, are
connected to your body's energysystems and emotional needs, and
(01:04):
you will learn how to clearemotional and energetic
blockages through movement,meditation and somatic
awareness. If you are feelingstuck emotionally or physically,
and since there is more beneaththe surface, then this episode
is for you before we dive in. Ifyou are resonating with these
(01:29):
themes and find yourself at acrossroads, unsure which
direction to take, I offer oneto one coaching focused on
personal growth mindset andreconnecting with your inner
compass. My aim is to help youmake aligned, confident
decisions for whatever your nextchapter holds. If that speaks to
(01:54):
you, use the link in the shownotes and get in touch. Now.
Let's get startedToday. It is my real pleasure to
speak with Banya Lim. Banya, youare a multi generational healer,
energy coach and the creator ofthe QI mastery system. You have
over 30 years of experience as aspiritual acupuncturist and
(02:16):
practitioner of orientalmedicine. And in your work, you
blend energy work somaticawareness and meditation. You
are passionate about helpingpeople reconnect with the innate
wisdom of their bodies so thatthey can heal clear energetic
(02:36):
blockages and align with theirtrue purpose. Banya, it's a real
pleasure to have you to theshow. Welcome.
Banya Lim (02:49):
Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you for
your invitation.
Agi Keramidas (02:54):
It's as I was telling you just before we
started recording. It is a topicthat I believe, apart from my
own personal interest, it is atopic that I think it is very
useful, extremely useful for. Iwould, I would dare to say
everyone, but let's prefer notto use that word, if I can avoid
(03:19):
it. But anyway, I'm lookingforward to exploring with you
today the wisdom of the body,the energy, the Chi that within
the body. And I will start verybriefly, you know, just so we
can have a very solid foundationfor anyone listening, regardless
(03:42):
of their background or, youknow, experience with these
things. You describe tea assomething we already know within
ourselves. So how can someonebegin to feel or recognise the
their tea in everyday life?
Banya Lim (04:06):
Yeah, wonderful, wonderful question. I think we
operate from bodies, voices andlanguages all the time. It's
just unconscious. We are notaware of it most of the time.
You know, when you wake up inthe morning, what do you want to
(04:28):
eat? What do you want to wear?
What kind of colour do you getdrawn to? It's all coming from
the the voices and the directionthat's your body is telling you,
telling you that we but we arenot aware that's happening based
on five element theories, whileoriental medicine is, you know,
(04:50):
directed by two main theories,one is in and young theories,
I'm sure you. Heard of that. Andso it's the second one is five
element theories. Based on fiveelement theories, there are five
elements in each elementconnected to different organs in
the body. And it's organs areconnected different emotion in
(05:13):
the body. And five elements canbe just, can be translated to to
everything that we know,direction, colour, taste, touch,
sensory, everything, forexample, I was thinking about
this, this, this this morning,that how our body is telling us
why would be the best, even whatcolour to wear each day. You
(05:39):
know, when you wake up in themorning, you get drawn to
certain colour of shirt orpants. And I'm sure you have
experience when you wake up inthe morning some days, like you
want to wear this particularshirt that you don't normally
wear, but you just feel likethis is a day to wear. I don't
know what it is. Colour also hasconnection to element and its
(06:04):
emotion. For example, wood isone of the five elements Wood's
emotion the organs are liver andgallbladder, and its emotion is
anger. And when you spend a lotof energy on that emotion, your
your organs start to out andoutside suffer, and then the
(06:30):
next day, your body was tryingto tell you, okay, it is
actually best to wear this kindof clothes. So green is
connected to wood. Wood, greenis connected to us. So when you
wake up in the morning, when youget drawn to certain colour,
that's your body's way oftelling you, okay, this is the
(06:52):
most harmonising thing for youto wear. And also, the taste
that's connected to wood issour, and when you get drawn to
tasting or eating sour tastingfood, it's also your body's way
of telling this is also most ofharmonising thing to eat today.
So that's just one of theexample. But we are everything's
(07:18):
unconscious. We're not aware ofthese things are happening. But
when we start to bring moreawareness into this through just
being quiet with ourselves, Ithink one of the best way to do
that is meditation, that youactually going to do this more
in a more conscious way.
Agi Keramidas (07:41):
Thank you. The key word that you said there
towards the end was awareness,because all of that requires the
awareness. So that's great.
Bania will will come back tothat. And, you know, explore
some you know, more specificelements of it, I would like in
(08:02):
terms of some context from yourbackground and your story that
you know created or required. Itwasn't that anyway, I'm trying
to phrase it in a verycomplicated way now, but so I
(08:24):
will give it simple from yourstory, your journey into this,
into healing, began with yourown crisis. So I would like to
for you to share with us theturning point and what revealed
to you about the connectionbetween energy, the body, and
(08:50):
changed you.
Banya Lim (08:56):
Yeah, yes, you know, my parents, I always describing
coming of together of yin andyang, like literally, like
opposite of the energy. My dadwas originally from North Korea.
My mom was from South Korea, andthey went through a war. And
(09:19):
over the years I realised therewas so much pain. There were
holding, like literally holdingin their body, pain of the
words, pain of the destruction,pain of the separation, because
(09:40):
my dad never got to reunite withhis family in North Korea. The
reason that I tell you about myparents is that I feel like I
inherit so much. Aside fromthat, I'm aware of, I think
there's so much more, andbecause of that, and. Because
(10:00):
also I myself went through a lotof traumas as a child. I started
to have depression in highschool and college, and it got
really, really bad in graduateschool. Not only that, I start
to have had a gastrointestinalissue. Specifically, IBE IBS,
(10:22):
sorry. And at some point that mybody couldn't absorb any
nutrients, like, literally, whenI eat, I just nothing can be
observed, like I was, I waslike, pale as you know, paper
and I I didn't know how tofunction at some point, and I
(10:44):
decided to do two things at thetime, movement and meditation.
Although many people and doctorsrecommend that I should be on
medication and taking differentchemicals and so on, I decided
to do those, those two things Ijust gave myself, I'm gonna just
(11:04):
give myself to do this. And Iremember there's epiphany I was
looking at, you know, like whenyou go to a restaurant, there's
menu sometimes on the cashierregister, and you can pick and
choose and tell them, This iswhat I want. And I had this
moment like, wow, I'm choosingthis emotion and thoughts that's
(11:31):
destructive to me over and over,because I'm used to it. I'm
comfortable with it, although itwas not good for me, but that's
what I've been doing all mylife, but I saw this also other
rays of different emotion that Ican choose from. And this is
something I'm sure we all knowthis, but for me, was such a
(11:52):
revelation and another deepunderstanding, wow, I can be
able to choose differentemotion, and these are
available, but I've been justkeep doing this over and over
and causing pain within my body,and also at the same time, I
felt the connection between thatemotion and energy blockage
(12:13):
within my body. And when I madea conscious decision to choose
different emotions that choosepositive emotion, my body
respond right away. And it tookme about two and a half a month,
and took reverse every symptomswithin my body and and that I
(12:38):
have another moment of my bodyis just dissolving all these
blockages. When I thinksomewhere, when I choose this
positive thoughts, I felt thedissolve. Doesn't dissolve, the
energy dissolving within mybody, and I didn't have those
symptoms anymore. It's funnythat at the time, that doctor
(13:01):
told me that this is somethingthat you may make it through.
You're gonna have to deal withit for the rest of your life.
But I don't have any of those. Iprobably am more healthy now
than when I was in my 30s. Somaking the connection,
(13:22):
understanding the connectionthrough the I'm using the word
awareness, again, through theawareness within the body. I
realised that is the key, andthat was when I was in my 30s.
I'm in my 50s now, and I sharethis with my clients about the
(13:48):
connection. So in orientalmedicine, there are specific
connection to organs to emotion.
Earlier I told you about words,liver and gallbladder. Their
emotion is anger, right? Andthere's connection between
urinary bladders and kidneys.
(14:09):
Their emotion is fear.
Urinary bladder meridians runsback of the body, that backside,
and it's bilateral, so next tothe spine, it goes down like
this. When you're under a lot offear, this emotion meridians
(14:32):
start to get blocked. Not it notonly that, you start feeling it
in your body. This is why weoften said, when we are under a
lot of fear, we say, I have achew going down my spine. These
words, these phrases, do notcome by accident. It's based on
(14:53):
we are feeling the body. We arefeeling the energy. We are
feeling the blockages within thebody. Agi. So over the years, I
will ask my clients like this,is a connection between the
sometimes back pain to the fear?
It doesn't mean that you'refearful person. It could be
there's a certain memories,certain events that happen in
(15:15):
your life start might havecreated this I'm just sharing
with you. So think about you canthink about the connection
perhaps one might have happenedin the past, and always, always,
there is a story that my clientsshare. So, and I realised that
each person have to go into avery deep level, an unconscious
(15:38):
level to really dealt with andwork through it. And this is
where somatic work andmeditation come in. And
Agi Keramidas (15:51):
I will come back to that, you know, you said
about the word awareness, and Ithink we will use that word many
times during this conversation,because through that we can you
said earlier about choosingdifferent emotions, and I like
(16:12):
very much how you weredescribing it With the screens.
Let me ask practically someone,how can they begin the process
of choosing another emotion? Andthe reason why I'm asking that,
(16:32):
as you are aware, is thatemotions have the tendency to
hijack our attention so we gowith the emotion before we even
realise that this emotion ispresent. So being able to choose
a different emotion, I suppose,requires some kind of I will say
(16:56):
the word awareness again, but Iwould like to hear your thoughts
on how practically one cancultivate that ability, shall we
say, to choose another emotionalstate.
Banya Lim (17:12):
Oh, my God.
Excellent, excellent question.
But before choosing emotion, orbefore choosing this positive
emotion. Well, while we considerpositive emotion, we first have
to like work through therepetitive this recording going
in our head. First trying tochoose this emotion is active
(17:36):
action on denying what'sactually happening. So first
thing is, when certain thingsthoughts come in, the thought
create emotion. Okay, that's it.
Negative thoughts, usually, if,if, if we do this for a long
time, it creates energy, and itcreates as energy blockage
(17:57):
within our body. But we can talkabout a little bit more deeply
when we have these thoughts comein, we have to stop doing these
three things. First, notidentifying with it, try not to
suppress it, try not to get ridof it. We when we do these three
(18:21):
things, one of these, one ofthese things, or three, or at
the same time, we give energy tothat thought. We literally give
power to our thoughts. But thethoughts, like in a Buddhist
tradition, we said the thoughtsare just thoughts. That's not
(18:44):
us. But when we give energy tothis, we end up identifying with
these thoughts, and we thinkthat that's us, but that's not
us. Thoughts are thoughts. In aBuddhist monk said, thoughts are
just the clouds passing in thesky or the water on the river,
it will just pass through. Butwe give power to it with these
(19:06):
three things. So working on notidentifying with it, not try to
suppress it, not try to get ridof it is the key. We give
tremendous power with thesethree things, the science
(19:30):
behaviour, science already beenproven that when we have a
certain thought that createsemotion and energetical, and
energetical emotion within thebody. It passed through us. It
takes 90 seconds. It takes 90seconds, if we just give it a
(19:51):
time and not doing these threethings, it will just pass
through us. And it's same thingwe. The all the animals and
animals know this so well. Haveyou ever seen like, two animals
fighting each other, like almosttrying to kill each other? After
a few seconds, they just moveaway and just peacefully walk
away. They don't hold on. Theydon't say, Oh, you did this to
(20:16):
me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'mgonna hurt you. And how can you
do this? They don't have any ofthis emotion, you know, like I
remember, think the dogs are thevery good example. There's dogs
in the pond like pecking eachother, almost like bleeding. And
then after a few minutes, theyjust peacefully swim away, and
(20:36):
they don't think about whathappened. They don't think of
what he or she did this to me.
By doing this, we hold onenergetically and create
blockage within the body,literally blockage within the
meridian system. I don't know ifyou ever seen a acupuncture
(20:59):
points meridian system withacupuncture points along the
meridian, literally, you createblockages based on that
emotional energy. So acupunctureis actually simply going to
those specific points to openthem up. But if people go back
(21:19):
to the same lifestyle, samerelationship, same dynamic,
they'll block again. This is whyI keep seeing people okay. We
work on it. They feel great,then they come back with the
same symptom over and over. Andthis is why I start talking to
them about the connectionbetween the emotion and the body
(21:41):
and let them work through it,and me being the guy to work on
the root of the issue.
Oftentimes, it can based onrelationships or based on our
belief about ourselves.
Agi Keramidas (21:58):
It's fascinating, and also, in a way, it is very
comforting to know that youmentioned 90 seconds that is
really not a long time. It's oneminute and a half. And you know
you can go through a physicalsensation for a minute and a
half, no matter howuncomfortable it might or you
(22:19):
might perceive it to be. I had,you know, you were saying about
those three things, not to do,not to identify with with it,
not to suppress the emotion, notto try get rid of it.
Unknown (22:39):
What?
Agi Keramidas (22:40):
What is, what can we do instead of that? Because
that might be, you know, thedefault mode. What is the
active, or a active process thatone can take to move away from
that default of identifying withit and trying to get rid of it
(23:01):
and so on. I hope my questionmakes sense.
Banya Lim (23:04):
Yes, perfect, perfect sense. Having this information
alone opens a lot of things,just someone having this
information, oh, those threethings, and that's what I do.
And having, once again, havingawareness of that and having
this information, like I said,opens up to new behaviour, new
(23:28):
thoughts, and doing a torturefor me to come out of my
depression, or two things,movement and meditation, so that
having the awareness, but youused, if you're still
struggling, utilise, to utilisethese two things, meditation and
(23:55):
movement. When I say movement,it can be any kind of movement.
It can be dancing, it can bejumping around. It can be
hiking, it can be martial arts,everything that is actually
geared towards actually openingthe meridians. Oftentimes my
(24:16):
clients saying, what? Why do youtell me to do is all this is
actually like literally,literally getting acupuncture
without getting needles. Many ofthe martial arts have been
developed to try to open up themeridians, because each
meridians runs through the arms,legs, head, head, head, back and
(24:42):
front. In ancient time when theymove their arms in certain way,
they realise, wait a minute, itopens up the long meridians.
When I do this, it opens up theopens up the large intestine
meridians. This is how cameabout tai chi. Do. Qigong, Kung
Fu, karate, hakido, you name it.
And I'm sure you might have seena video of this old Chinese lady
(25:07):
doing this in a park. This is aTai Chi movement to open up the
meridians, so when you are stuckin that recording of hearing,
the recording of negativethoughts and emotion going to
yet you do to do this two thingsfor a while, consistency is more
(25:35):
important than how how long youdo this? And we need some
discipline in the beginning.
Discipline is actually requiredbecause people often judge
themselves, like, Oh, that was abad meditation. I cannot believe
(25:58):
I have so many thoughts in myhead. No, still. Still, it was a
meditation. It still was a goodmeditation. It actually builds
something. Build somethingwithin you. And when you move
your body, oh, I didn't do Ididn't do enough. I didn't do
enough exercise, whatever thatmight be, but you've done
something. You startedsomething. Just be consistent
(26:21):
with it, even if it's a fiveminutes, and until the point and
you go to the point that that'sall you want to do, when you go
into the meditative state. Andeventually, when your channel,
when your meridian, startopening up, it's it's better
than drug. And that's all youwant to do all day, every day.
(26:47):
So I would say, utilise twothings. But as far as the
movement goes, you can dowhatever you want to do.
Agi Keramidas (26:54):
I'm glad that you mentioned those two and also the
practicalities of it, because itis even more important. Bucha,
there is one other thing Iwanted to hear your thoughts
about, and it is the concept ofreminders that you you talk
(27:19):
about. And by reminder, I meanthat we already know inside us
what, what we need, that thatinner knowing, my question is,
how can we reconnect with thatinner knowing? I suppose, in
many ways, it's similar to whatwe have already been discussing,
(27:41):
but in terms of more of that,you know inner knowing, or path
or purpose, or however else onemight translate that. So I would
love to hear your thoughts onit.
Banya Lim (27:58):
Okay, yes, the inner knowing is already there. Inner
knowing is already built inwithin us. We just have to work
on letting go of all thisexternal stuff. When we clear
the external stuff, you knowthat you already know this
(28:23):
letting go of this externalstuff is it can be done through
those two things, meditation andmovement. I remember one of my
clients who is a dancer afterlike, long hours of practice,
and she just lay down on thefloor, and she just felt this,
(28:47):
like just kind of, you know, youknow, knowing, and also
awareness, like it's all withinme, all within my body, because
all the external noise subsidedat the time, inner knowing is
already there. We already haveit. It's a built in that we are
(29:10):
born with, that is a God given,right, that it's already there
that for us to use. You know,when you walk into a store that
you never walked into in yourlife, and you feel like you have
been there when you talk tosomebody for the first time, but
(29:33):
you feel like you know thisperson, and plus, we have
experience of deja vu, those arenot accidents. We already have
been there. We already have donethis. It's already been within
us. It's already the awarenesshas been already built in, and
we are just recognising that. Soletting go of this external
(29:56):
noises is the key.
Agi Keramidas (29:59):
Thank you. Very useful when you think of it like
that, as the inner knowledge andthe external noise that prevents
us or blocks us from accessingit, it's it's been a really
fascinating conversation, and asI will start wrapping things up
(30:21):
soon. The first thing I wouldlike to ask you is, where do you
want to direct the listener thathas enjoyed listening to you and
wants to learn more?
Banya Lim (30:31):
Well, you can our offer your audience free clarity
sessions. If you want to signup, you could just go to my
website, vanyalim.com
Agi Keramidas (30:44):
thank you. That's great. And Vanya I have two
questions that I always ask myguests, even since the very
beginning, what does personaldevelopment mean to you,
Banya Lim (30:59):
knowing my power, knowing that I'm already free.
Agi Keramidas (31:05):
And hypothetical one, if you could go back in
time and meet your 18 year oldself, what's one piece of advice
you would give her?
Banya Lim (31:16):
I'm sure many people say this already. Don't care
about what other people say, donot waste time. Waste your time.
They don't. They don't thinkabout it as much as you think
they do.
Agi Keramidas (31:32):
Indeed, by I want to thank you so much for this
conversation, and I, Iappreciated very much the, let's
say, the actionable, thepractical elements that you
shared throughout theconversation, because that's
(31:54):
always my intention with thepodcast is not to give to the
listeners theory about somethingas interesting this might be.
Theory is not changing anyonethe transformation, the change
happens by taking action on thetheory. So thank you very much
(32:15):
for sharing the practicalelements that you did. I will
leave it to you for your partingwisdom. To the listener,
Banya Lim (32:31):
there is a tremendous power within you, literally
within the body. It's time toit's time for us to tap into
that, and more than ever,everything's lined up in our
lives to thrive at this time. Iknow our external world looks
(32:53):
like things are falling apart,but truth The truth is we are
spiritually evolving more fastand much faster than ever
before. So hold on tight andjust go within.
Agi Keramidas (33:11):
Thank you for listening to this conversation
with Bunya Lim. I hope it hasgiven you a fresh perspective on
the power of your body's wisdomand the role awareness plays in
true healing. If you have foundvalue in this episode, consider
supporting the show by visitingpersonal development mastery
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Thank you. Until next time, keepgrowing and keep showing up as
your authentic self stand out.
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Don't fit in .
What if your body has been guiding you all along
and you just didn't know how tolisten?
Welcome to personal developmentmastery, the podcast that helps
intelligent, busy professionalsdevelop self mastery and gain
(00:21):
clarity so you can thrive in afulfilling, purposeful life. I'm
your host, agiramidas, and thisis episode 518 if you are
looking to reconnect with yourbody and clear emotional
blockages, this conversationexplores how energy, movement
(00:43):
and awareness can guide yourhealing from within. By
listening today, you're going todiscover how everyday choices,
like the colour of our clothesand our food preferences, are
connected to your body's energysystems and emotional needs, and
(01:04):
you will learn how to clearemotional and energetic
blockages through movement,meditation and somatic
awareness. If you are feelingstuck emotionally or physically,
and since there is more beneaththe surface, then this episode
is for you before we dive in. Ifyou are resonating with these
(01:29):
themes and find yourself at acrossroads, unsure which
direction to take, I offer oneto one coaching focused on
personal growth mindset andreconnecting with your inner
compass. My aim is to help youmake aligned, confident
decisions for whatever your nextchapter holds. If that speaks to
(01:54):
you, use the link in the shownotes and get in touch. Now.
Let's get startedToday. It is my real pleasure to
speak with Banya Lim. Banya, youare a multi generational healer,
energy coach and the creator ofthe QI mastery system. You have
over 30 years of experience as aspiritual acupuncturist and
(02:16):
practitioner of orientalmedicine. And in your work, you
blend energy work somaticawareness and meditation. You
are passionate about helpingpeople reconnect with the innate
wisdom of their bodies so thatthey can heal clear energetic
(02:36):
blockages and align with theirtrue purpose. Banya, it's a real
pleasure to have you to theshow. Welcome.
Banya Lim (02:49):
Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you for
your invitation.
Agi Keramidas (02:54):
It's as I was telling you just before we
started recording. It is a topicthat I believe, apart from my
own personal interest, it is atopic that I think it is very
useful, extremely useful for. Iwould, I would dare to say
everyone, but let's prefer notto use that word, if I can avoid
(03:19):
it. But anyway, I'm lookingforward to exploring with you
today the wisdom of the body,the energy, the Chi that within
the body. And I will start verybriefly, you know, just so we
can have a very solid foundationfor anyone listening, regardless
(03:42):
of their background or, youknow, experience with these
things. You describe tea assomething we already know within
ourselves. So how can someonebegin to feel or recognise the
their tea in everyday life?
Banya Lim (04:06):
Yeah, wonderful, wonderful question. I think we
operate from bodies, voices andlanguages all the time. It's
just unconscious. We are notaware of it most of the time.
You know, when you wake up inthe morning, what do you want to
(04:28):
eat? What do you want to wear?
What kind of colour do you getdrawn to? It's all coming from
the the voices and the directionthat's your body is telling you,
telling you that we but we arenot aware that's happening based
on five element theories, whileoriental medicine is, you know,
(04:50):
directed by two main theories,one is in and young theories,
I'm sure you. Heard of that. Andso it's the second one is five
element theories. Based on fiveelement theories, there are five
elements in each elementconnected to different organs in
the body. And it's organs areconnected different emotion in
(05:13):
the body. And five elements canbe just, can be translated to to
everything that we know,direction, colour, taste, touch,
sensory, everything, forexample, I was thinking about
this, this, this this morning,that how our body is telling us
why would be the best, even whatcolour to wear each day. You
(05:39):
know, when you wake up in themorning, you get drawn to
certain colour of shirt orpants. And I'm sure you have
experience when you wake up inthe morning some days, like you
want to wear this particularshirt that you don't normally
wear, but you just feel likethis is a day to wear. I don't
know what it is. Colour also hasconnection to element and its
(06:04):
emotion. For example, wood isone of the five elements Wood's
emotion the organs are liver andgallbladder, and its emotion is
anger. And when you spend a lotof energy on that emotion, your
your organs start to out andoutside suffer, and then the
(06:30):
next day, your body was tryingto tell you, okay, it is
actually best to wear this kindof clothes. So green is
connected to wood. Wood, greenis connected to us. So when you
wake up in the morning, when youget drawn to certain colour,
that's your body's way oftelling you, okay, this is the
(06:52):
most harmonising thing for youto wear. And also, the taste
that's connected to wood issour, and when you get drawn to
tasting or eating sour tastingfood, it's also your body's way
of telling this is also most ofharmonising thing to eat today.
So that's just one of theexample. But we are everything's
(07:18):
unconscious. We're not aware ofthese things are happening. But
when we start to bring moreawareness into this through just
being quiet with ourselves, Ithink one of the best way to do
that is meditation, that youactually going to do this more
in a more conscious way.
Agi Keramidas (07:41):
Thank you. The key word that you said there
towards the end was awareness,because all of that requires the
awareness. So that's great.
Bania will will come back tothat. And, you know, explore
some you know, more specificelements of it, I would like in
(08:02):
terms of some context from yourbackground and your story that
you know created or required. Itwasn't that anyway, I'm trying
to phrase it in a verycomplicated way now, but so I
(08:24):
will give it simple from yourstory, your journey into this,
into healing, began with yourown crisis. So I would like to
for you to share with us theturning point and what revealed
to you about the connectionbetween energy, the body, and
(08:50):
changed you.
Banya Lim (08:56):
Yeah, yes, you know, my parents, I always describing
coming of together of yin andyang, like literally, like
opposite of the energy. My dadwas originally from North Korea.
My mom was from South Korea, andthey went through a war. And
(09:19):
over the years I realised therewas so much pain. There were
holding, like literally holdingin their body, pain of the
words, pain of the destruction,pain of the separation, because
(09:40):
my dad never got to reunite withhis family in North Korea. The
reason that I tell you about myparents is that I feel like I
inherit so much. Aside fromthat, I'm aware of, I think
there's so much more, andbecause of that, and. Because
(10:00):
also I myself went through a lotof traumas as a child. I started
to have depression in highschool and college, and it got
really, really bad in graduateschool. Not only that, I start
to have had a gastrointestinalissue. Specifically, IBE IBS,
(10:22):
sorry. And at some point that mybody couldn't absorb any
nutrients, like, literally, whenI eat, I just nothing can be
observed, like I was, I waslike, pale as you know, paper
and I I didn't know how tofunction at some point, and I
(10:44):
decided to do two things at thetime, movement and meditation.
Although many people and doctorsrecommend that I should be on
medication and taking differentchemicals and so on, I decided
to do those, those two things Ijust gave myself, I'm gonna just
(11:04):
give myself to do this. And Iremember there's epiphany I was
looking at, you know, like whenyou go to a restaurant, there's
menu sometimes on the cashierregister, and you can pick and
choose and tell them, This iswhat I want. And I had this
moment like, wow, I'm choosingthis emotion and thoughts that's
(11:31):
destructive to me over and over,because I'm used to it. I'm
comfortable with it, although itwas not good for me, but that's
what I've been doing all mylife, but I saw this also other
rays of different emotion that Ican choose from. And this is
something I'm sure we all knowthis, but for me, was such a
(11:52):
revelation and another deepunderstanding, wow, I can be
able to choose differentemotion, and these are
available, but I've been justkeep doing this over and over
and causing pain within my body,and also at the same time, I
felt the connection between thatemotion and energy blockage
(12:13):
within my body. And when I madea conscious decision to choose
different emotions that choosepositive emotion, my body
respond right away. And it tookme about two and a half a month,
and took reverse every symptomswithin my body and and that I
(12:38):
have another moment of my bodyis just dissolving all these
blockages. When I thinksomewhere, when I choose this
positive thoughts, I felt thedissolve. Doesn't dissolve, the
energy dissolving within mybody, and I didn't have those
symptoms anymore. It's funnythat at the time, that doctor
(13:01):
told me that this is somethingthat you may make it through.
You're gonna have to deal withit for the rest of your life.
But I don't have any of those. Iprobably am more healthy now
than when I was in my 30s. Somaking the connection,
(13:22):
understanding the connectionthrough the I'm using the word
awareness, again, through theawareness within the body. I
realised that is the key, andthat was when I was in my 30s.
I'm in my 50s now, and I sharethis with my clients about the
(13:48):
connection. So in orientalmedicine, there are specific
connection to organs to emotion.
Earlier I told you about words,liver and gallbladder. Their
emotion is anger, right? Andthere's connection between
urinary bladders and kidneys.
(14:09):
Their emotion is fear.
Urinary bladder meridians runsback of the body, that backside,
and it's bilateral, so next tothe spine, it goes down like
this. When you're under a lot offear, this emotion meridians
(14:32):
start to get blocked. Not it notonly that, you start feeling it
in your body. This is why weoften said, when we are under a
lot of fear, we say, I have achew going down my spine. These
words, these phrases, do notcome by accident. It's based on
(14:53):
we are feeling the body. We arefeeling the energy. We are
feeling the blockages within thebody. Agi. So over the years, I
will ask my clients like this,is a connection between the
sometimes back pain to the fear?
It doesn't mean that you'refearful person. It could be
there's a certain memories,certain events that happen in
(15:15):
your life start might havecreated this I'm just sharing
with you. So think about you canthink about the connection
perhaps one might have happenedin the past, and always, always,
there is a story that my clientsshare. So, and I realised that
each person have to go into avery deep level, an unconscious
(15:38):
level to really dealt with andwork through it. And this is
where somatic work andmeditation come in. And
Agi Keramidas (15:51):
I will come back to that, you know, you said
about the word awareness, and Ithink we will use that word many
times during this conversation,because through that we can you
said earlier about choosingdifferent emotions, and I like
(16:12):
very much how you weredescribing it With the screens.
Let me ask practically someone,how can they begin the process
of choosing another emotion? Andthe reason why I'm asking that,
(16:32):
as you are aware, is thatemotions have the tendency to
hijack our attention so we gowith the emotion before we even
realise that this emotion ispresent. So being able to choose
a different emotion, I suppose,requires some kind of I will say
(16:56):
the word awareness again, but Iwould like to hear your thoughts
on how practically one cancultivate that ability, shall we
say, to choose another emotionalstate.
Banya Lim (17:12):
Oh, my God.
Excellent, excellent question.
But before choosing emotion, orbefore choosing this positive
emotion. Well, while we considerpositive emotion, we first have
to like work through therepetitive this recording going
in our head. First trying tochoose this emotion is active
(17:36):
action on denying what'sactually happening. So first
thing is, when certain thingsthoughts come in, the thought
create emotion. Okay, that's it.
Negative thoughts, usually, if,if, if we do this for a long
time, it creates energy, and itcreates as energy blockage
(17:57):
within our body. But we can talkabout a little bit more deeply
when we have these thoughts comein, we have to stop doing these
three things. First, notidentifying with it, try not to
suppress it, try not to get ridof it. We when we do these three
(18:21):
things, one of these, one ofthese things, or three, or at
the same time, we give energy tothat thought. We literally give
power to our thoughts. But thethoughts, like in a Buddhist
tradition, we said the thoughtsare just thoughts. That's not
(18:44):
us. But when we give energy tothis, we end up identifying with
these thoughts, and we thinkthat that's us, but that's not
us. Thoughts are thoughts. In aBuddhist monk said, thoughts are
just the clouds passing in thesky or the water on the river,
it will just pass through. Butwe give power to it with these
(19:06):
three things. So working on notidentifying with it, not try to
suppress it, not try to get ridof it is the key. We give
tremendous power with thesethree things, the science
(19:30):
behaviour, science already beenproven that when we have a
certain thought that createsemotion and energetical, and
energetical emotion within thebody. It passed through us. It
takes 90 seconds. It takes 90seconds, if we just give it a
(19:51):
time and not doing these threethings, it will just pass
through us. And it's same thingwe. The all the animals and
animals know this so well. Haveyou ever seen like, two animals
fighting each other, like almosttrying to kill each other? After
a few seconds, they just moveaway and just peacefully walk
away. They don't hold on. Theydon't say, Oh, you did this to
(20:16):
me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'mgonna hurt you. And how can you
do this? They don't have any ofthis emotion, you know, like I
remember, think the dogs are thevery good example. There's dogs
in the pond like pecking eachother, almost like bleeding. And
then after a few minutes, theyjust peacefully swim away, and
(20:36):
they don't think about whathappened. They don't think of
what he or she did this to me.
By doing this, we hold onenergetically and create
blockage within the body,literally blockage within the
meridian system. I don't know ifyou ever seen a acupuncture
(20:59):
points meridian system withacupuncture points along the
meridian, literally, you createblockages based on that
emotional energy. So acupunctureis actually simply going to
those specific points to openthem up. But if people go back
(21:19):
to the same lifestyle, samerelationship, same dynamic,
they'll block again. This is whyI keep seeing people okay. We
work on it. They feel great,then they come back with the
same symptom over and over. Andthis is why I start talking to
them about the connectionbetween the emotion and the body
(21:41):
and let them work through it,and me being the guy to work on
the root of the issue.
Oftentimes, it can based onrelationships or based on our
belief about ourselves.
Agi Keramidas (21:58):
It's fascinating, and also, in a way, it is very
comforting to know that youmentioned 90 seconds that is
really not a long time. It's oneminute and a half. And you know
you can go through a physicalsensation for a minute and a
half, no matter howuncomfortable it might or you
(22:19):
might perceive it to be. I had,you know, you were saying about
those three things, not to do,not to identify with with it,
not to suppress the emotion, notto try get rid of it.
Unknown (22:39):
What?
Agi Keramidas (22:40):
What is, what can we do instead of that? Because
that might be, you know, thedefault mode. What is the
active, or a active process thatone can take to move away from
that default of identifying withit and trying to get rid of it
(23:01):
and so on. I hope my questionmakes sense.
Banya Lim (23:04):
Yes, perfect, perfect sense. Having this information
alone opens a lot of things,just someone having this
information, oh, those threethings, and that's what I do.
And having, once again, havingawareness of that and having
this information, like I said,opens up to new behaviour, new
(23:28):
thoughts, and doing a torturefor me to come out of my
depression, or two things,movement and meditation, so that
having the awareness, but youused, if you're still
struggling, utilise, to utilisethese two things, meditation and
(23:55):
movement. When I say movement,it can be any kind of movement.
It can be dancing, it can bejumping around. It can be
hiking, it can be martial arts,everything that is actually
geared towards actually openingthe meridians. Oftentimes my
(24:16):
clients saying, what? Why do youtell me to do is all this is
actually like literally,literally getting acupuncture
without getting needles. Many ofthe martial arts have been
developed to try to open up themeridians, because each
meridians runs through the arms,legs, head, head, head, back and
(24:42):
front. In ancient time when theymove their arms in certain way,
they realise, wait a minute, itopens up the long meridians.
When I do this, it opens up theopens up the large intestine
meridians. This is how cameabout tai chi. Do. Qigong, Kung
Fu, karate, hakido, you name it.
And I'm sure you might have seena video of this old Chinese lady
(25:07):
doing this in a park. This is aTai Chi movement to open up the
meridians, so when you are stuckin that recording of hearing,
the recording of negativethoughts and emotion going to
yet you do to do this two thingsfor a while, consistency is more
(25:35):
important than how how long youdo this? And we need some
discipline in the beginning.
Discipline is actually requiredbecause people often judge
themselves, like, Oh, that was abad meditation. I cannot believe
(25:58):
I have so many thoughts in myhead. No, still. Still, it was a
meditation. It still was a goodmeditation. It actually builds
something. Build somethingwithin you. And when you move
your body, oh, I didn't do Ididn't do enough. I didn't do
enough exercise, whatever thatmight be, but you've done
something. You startedsomething. Just be consistent
(26:21):
with it, even if it's a fiveminutes, and until the point and
you go to the point that that'sall you want to do, when you go
into the meditative state. Andeventually, when your channel,
when your meridian, startopening up, it's it's better
than drug. And that's all youwant to do all day, every day.
(26:47):
So I would say, utilise twothings. But as far as the
movement goes, you can dowhatever you want to do.
Agi Keramidas (26:54):
I'm glad that you mentioned those two and also the
practicalities of it, because itis even more important. Bucha,
there is one other thing Iwanted to hear your thoughts
about, and it is the concept ofreminders that you you talk
(27:19):
about. And by reminder, I meanthat we already know inside us
what, what we need, that thatinner knowing, my question is,
how can we reconnect with thatinner knowing? I suppose, in
many ways, it's similar to whatwe have already been discussing,
(27:41):
but in terms of more of that,you know inner knowing, or path
or purpose, or however else onemight translate that. So I would
love to hear your thoughts onit.
Banya Lim (27:58):
Okay, yes, the inner knowing is already there. Inner
knowing is already built inwithin us. We just have to work
on letting go of all thisexternal stuff. When we clear
the external stuff, you knowthat you already know this
(28:23):
letting go of this externalstuff is it can be done through
those two things, meditation andmovement. I remember one of my
clients who is a dancer afterlike, long hours of practice,
and she just lay down on thefloor, and she just felt this,
(28:47):
like just kind of, you know, youknow, knowing, and also
awareness, like it's all withinme, all within my body, because
all the external noise subsidedat the time, inner knowing is
already there. We already haveit. It's a built in that we are
(29:10):
born with, that is a God given,right, that it's already there
that for us to use. You know,when you walk into a store that
you never walked into in yourlife, and you feel like you have
been there when you talk tosomebody for the first time, but
(29:33):
you feel like you know thisperson, and plus, we have
experience of deja vu, those arenot accidents. We already have
been there. We already have donethis. It's already been within
us. It's already the awarenesshas been already built in, and
we are just recognising that. Soletting go of this external
(29:56):
noises is the key.
Agi Keramidas (29:59):
Thank you. Very useful when you think of it like
that, as the inner knowledge andthe external noise that prevents
us or blocks us from accessingit, it's it's been a really
fascinating conversation, and asI will start wrapping things up
(30:21):
soon. The first thing I wouldlike to ask you is, where do you
want to direct the listener thathas enjoyed listening to you and
wants to learn more?
Banya Lim (30:31):
Well, you can our offer your audience free clarity
sessions. If you want to signup, you could just go to my
website, vanyalim.com
Agi Keramidas (30:44):
thank you. That's great. And Vanya I have two
questions that I always ask myguests, even since the very
beginning, what does personaldevelopment mean to you,
Banya Lim (30:59):
knowing my power, knowing that I'm already free.
Agi Keramidas (31:05):
And hypothetical one, if you could go back in
time and meet your 18 year oldself, what's one piece of advice
you would give her?
Banya Lim (31:16):
I'm sure many people say this already. Don't care
about what other people say, donot waste time. Waste your time.
They don't. They don't thinkabout it as much as you think
they do.
Agi Keramidas (31:32):
Indeed, by I want to thank you so much for this
conversation, and I, Iappreciated very much the, let's
say, the actionable, thepractical elements that you
shared throughout theconversation, because that's
(31:54):
always my intention with thepodcast is not to give to the
listeners theory about somethingas interesting this might be.
Theory is not changing anyonethe transformation, the change
happens by taking action on thetheory. So thank you very much
(32:15):
for sharing the practicalelements that you did. I will
leave it to you for your partingwisdom. To the listener,
Banya Lim (32:31):
there is a tremendous power within you, literally
within the body. It's time toit's time for us to tap into
that, and more than ever,everything's lined up in our
lives to thrive at this time. Iknow our external world looks
(32:53):
like things are falling apart,but truth The truth is we are
spiritually evolving more fastand much faster than ever
before. So hold on tight andjust go within.
Agi Keramidas (33:11):
Thank you for listening to this conversation
with Bunya Lim. I hope it hasgiven you a fresh perspective on
the power of your body's wisdomand the role awareness plays in
true healing. If you have foundvalue in this episode, consider
supporting the show by visitingpersonal development mastery
(33:36):
podcast.com/support every bithelps to keep the conversations
going and reach more listenerslike you. You will also find the
link in the episode description.
Thank you. Until next time, keepgrowing and keep showing up as
your authentic self stand out.
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