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Kate Northrup (00:00):
Do people change?
Absolutely. Can you change them?
No. The only way you might beable to inspire change in
another human being, be it afamily, a friend, your romantic
partner, your child is throughmodeling.
Welcome to Plenty. I'm your hostKate Northrup, and together we
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are going on a journey to helpyou have an incredible
relationship with money, time,and energy, and to have
abundance on every possiblelevel. Every week, we're gonna
dive in with experts andinsights to help you unlock a
life of plenty. Let's go fillour cups. I get some version of
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the following question all thetime, and that is, what do I do
if I'm, like, all committed tothis abundant stuff and I'm in
expansion, and I believe in theenergy of money, and I'm really
committed to expanding in thisway, except that I'm partnered
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with or married to someone whois deeply rooted in lack and
scarcity.
So this happens all the time.I'll be perfectly honest. It's
kind of like my parents. And soI know this one really
intimately. And I think for allpartnerships, we tend to
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gravitate towards people who areour opposite.
And that's beautiful. Right?Like, I think about oysters and
how the agitation of having sandin an oyster over time creates a
pearl. Or I think about howfriction creates fire or how
pressure creates a diamond. Sothere can be absolutely
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beautiful things that come frompression pressure, friction,
irritation, and that opposite.
I will also say that I thinkthat we can all teach each other
things. And sometimes when weare partnered with someone who's
more grounded in the tangible,what we can see and feel, when
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we are more into the intangiblefive d reality of manifestation
or energy, actually, it can bebeautifully grounding for us if
we would allow ourselves toreceive the medicine that our
partner is bringing. So firstup, what I would say is that, in
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general, when our partner isrooted in scarcity, when we are
working on rewiring ourselvesfor abundance, we can frame that
as this is happening for me, formy own growth, because if it's
happening, it means I can learnsomething from it. So as opposed
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to automatically going to thisis a problem, we can ask
ourselves, okay. How is thishere to teach me?
How can I expand from thisexperience? And my friend, Maura
Moynihan, who I know I've I'vetalked about on the podcast
before, she her question is sopowerful, and she says, what if
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this wasn't a problem? Right? Solet's start there. Like, if we
if we say, what if this wasn't aproblem?
A whole host of possibilitiesopen up. There's a softening.
There's, an opening for us to beable to see ways of relating or
see lessons or gems that wecouldn't see before when we were
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relating to our partner'srelationship with abundance as a
problem? In fact, what if it isa possibility? Right?
So just let's start there. Thesecond thing that I would say is
I really frequently see, andthis is especially with women,
especially in heterosexualcouples, but I I'm sure it
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happens everywhere. I see womenusing their husband's scarcity
programming as an excuse for whythey can't have what they want.
And I will say that is verysneaky, and it is an unconscious
way to get out of the courageouswork it takes to expand into
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abundance. So making yourpartner the problem is a very
sneaky way of getting yourselfoff the hook.
Just see if that one lands foryou. Because if we make our
partner the problem, then wedon't actually have to look at
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ourselves. So I would ask, foreach of us, is there any way in
which my partner's commitment toscarcity is mirroring or
reflecting or an invitation forme to look at any of my own
scarcity in myself? Like, isthere any way that my partner is
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reflecting, mirroring somethingthat I need to look at myself?
Because nearly every single timewe want something in the
external world, the best way toreceive it is to give it to
ourselves first.
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So, for example, if your partnerlet me think of a good example
here. Okay. So maybe you reallylike to go out to nice dinners,
and your partner says it's tooexpensive and that you both need
to eat all your meals at home.So you might say, well, it's my
partner is the problem. I wantthis thing.
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They're saying I can't have it,but I want this thing. I would
ask yourself, how can Iexperience, how can I create for
myself the experience I long forof having an elegant meal,
perhaps where someone elseserves it to me? Right? And you
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could even be playful with itand even say to your partner,
okay. Cool.
We're gonna eat at home. Mydesire is every now and again to
have a delicious elegant mealthat is cooked by someone else,
that is served by someone else,where someone else cleans up. Is
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that an experience that youwould be willing to create,
perhaps, instead of us going outfor a meal since you don't wanna
spend the money. Right? So thatyou could actually create an
opening of possibility for howyou could get what you want
through another avenue where youboth win.
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And maybe that's something youcould trade off and on while
still aligning with yourfamily's spending plan. I don't
know. It's a possibility. Ormaybe it's that you trade,
delicious, elegant meals withanother family or with a
girlfriend or whatever. Butthere's always a way, even if
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it's a small way, to giveourselves what we want in
exactly the way our lives areset up right now.
And the act of giving yourselfpermission to have what you want
with your life exactly the wayit is right now always creates
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an opening for you to have evenmore of that experience. Why?
Because it wires your neuralpathways to have the receptor
sites literally, for thatexperience. And when you repeat
that over and over and overagain, you can't help but have
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more experiences that match withit because our external world is
always a match for our internalenvironment. Okay.
So that was another thing. Whenyour partner is rooted in
scarcity, it is very frequentlydue to their own money story.
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And that's why it's reallyimportant in relationships to
understand our partner's moneystories. What was it like for
them growing up? What did theyexperience around money?
Do they have any, emotionalhangovers around money? Any
financial traumas? What did theylearn about money? How did their
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parents talk about money? Whatwas modeled to them explicitly,
implicitly?
Because they are walking aroundwith that programming. You have
to understand you're not onlypartnering with your person,
you're also partnering withtheir lineage. And we need to
ask ourselves, certainly, ifyou're in the dating realm of
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your life, I would really askyourself, when you meet your
partner's family, you mightwanna ask yourself, is this a
lineage that I am willing toengage with? Because that those
lineage patterns are going to bepart of your life. Whether your
partner is working on healingthose lineage patterns or not,
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you are going to be coming faceto face with those patterns over
and over and over again.
So choose wisely. Now I dobelieve that we choose our
partners to heal particularchildhood wounds that they
exacerbate. Right? So in Mikeand my relationship, I've talked
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about this before. We've talkedabout it a lot.
I have this deep wounding aroundnot feeling supported, and he
has deep wounding around notfeeling enough. So the less
supported I feel, the less hefeels like he's enough. And the
less he feels like he's enough,the less I feel I'm supported.
Right? So we get into theseloops where our childhood
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wounding is just out here doinga dance together, and we might
be, you know, grown ass adultsin our forties with kids, but we
are essentially two hurt littlekids playing stuff out together.
And because we've done a lot oftherapy, because we've been
willing to tell each other ourstories, because we've been
willing to hold space for eachother, and and listen
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compassionately to what's comingup for the other person and to
really deeply understand thatthe content of any particular
disagreement or argument we'rehaving is not actually about the
content itself. It is 99.9% ofthe time, us bringing old stuff
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to the table and something inthe content of our interaction
getting activated. Right? Somany years ago, Mike and I got
in a fight about, who was makingthis particular stuffed peppers
dish for dinner. And I can'teven remember the details of the
conflict, but I know it wasabout stuff stuffed peppers
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externally.
Right? We were fighting aboutstuffed peppers, which, you
know, now is ridiculous. And,again, I cannot remember what
happened, but I do know it wasone of our first huge fights.
And I was asking myself in thatmoment, oh my god. Did I marry
the wrong person?
I mean, it was that bad. No. Ofcourse, I for sure married the
right person. We've done so muchhealing since then. This was in,
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like, 02/2016.
I think it was a long time ago.But, ultimately, like, we're
fighting about stuffed peppers,but it was about our deep, deep,
deep stuff. When it comes tomoney, money brings up our deep,
deep, deep stuff, especially ourfeelings around security and
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freedom. And some people overcouple money and love, I
certainly have had patterns ofthat in the past. So especially
in romantic partnership, we canget really deep into the
quagmire when it comes to moneyand partnership and possibility
and safety and security andvalues and all of that stuff.
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So all I'm saying here isunderstanding your partner's
money story is critical. And ifyou choose to join our Relax
Money program, you can actuallyjoin with your partner, with
your romantic partner for theprice of one person because I
believe so deeply in healingmoney difficulty, healing money
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stories in partnership. It canset relationships free. And when
I think about theintergenerational healing, the
lineage clearing, and thepossibility that opens up when
two people heal their moneystuff together, it is so
powerful how much it can changepossibilities for families, for
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intergenerational wealth, forintergenerational joy, for
intergenerational freedom. Andso, this is some of the work
that we do in our program.
Okay. So you gotta know youryour your partner's money story
because their triggers are gonnacome up, and your triggers are
gonna come up. And it's so mucheasier to stay open hearted with
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your partner when you understandthe landscape of their psyche
because they will unconsciouslybring stuff to the conversation
around money that doesn'tactually have to do with money
or the present day situation,but they're bringing it. And if
you know that, then you won'tget so hooked by the content,
and one or the other of you canhelp to bring the conversation
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to what it really is about,which is nine times out of 10,
our deeper childhoodconditioning as it relates to
money, safety, security, andlove. So it's like really big
stuff here.
At the end of the day, yourabundance is your own
responsibility. And the onlytime this is my friend Chris
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Carr says, the only time you canchange someone else is when they
are in diapers. Okay? So whoeveryour partner is is who your
partner is, and you are notgoing to change them. Do people
change?
Absolutely. Can you change them?No. The only way you might be
able to inspire change inanother human being, be it a
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family, a friend, your romanticpartner, your child, is through
modeling. So, your job is tostay committed to your own
financial healing journey.
That's it. Keep your eyes onyour own paper. I promise you,
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you will get hooked. You willwant everyone else to come with
you. You will feel like, oh, Ican't do this unless my husband
or my partner comes along.
And I promise you, you arewrong. You can absolutely do
this with your own sovereignty,with your own level of
commitment. Would it bewonderful if they came with you?
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Yes. And guess what?
You can invite them in a lovely,loving, delicious way. What ends
up happening is for so manyyears, women in particular have
been disappointed. And I'm notpointing fingers at men right
now. I'm just saying this is adynamic that I see where women
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are perpetually disappointed.And so when it comes to inviting
their partner into a newpossibility, they're already in
deep disapproval and crankiness.
Okay? So the invitation is notvery appealing. And so what I
would do is find your approvalmuscle. Right? So how does your
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partner show up in ways thatdelight you?
How are they alreadycontributing to the incredible
abundance in your life? Even ifit's not what you think it
should be or what you wish itwere, what is actually working?
My friend Regina, mama Gina,says, the sooner you can get
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into approval about what is, thesooner what's next will fall
into your lap. So you want toget into agreement with what is.
So what is in your relationship?
Maybe your partner is deeplygrounded in three d reality. How
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wonderful. Maybe they make youfeel so safe because they're so
good at taking care of thetactile logistical details of
living here on planet Earth. Howwonderful. Can you find a place
within you that can be gratefulfor that, that can approve of
them for all the ways they areshowing up?
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And then from that place, couldyou flirtatiously, seductively,
or at least lovingly invite theminto a new possibility. And if
you can do that from a place ofapproval, they are much more
likely to come along than if youare bringing with you decades of
resentment. So I hope this washelpful. I promise you, you get
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to have abundance no matterwhat. Don't let anyone hold you
back.
Keep your eyes on your own paperand keep moving forward because
this is absolutely yourbirthright. And, also, we have
hundreds and hundreds of storiesof financial healing within
couples. So I am going to justkeep that light on that you can
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be the next one. Thanks so muchfor listening, and I'll see you
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