Point of Relation Podcast

Can we approach discomfort and tension as opportunities for growth? Can humanity mature beyond divisive conflict?

This week, Thomas is joined by much loved returning guest, NYT bestselling author, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, to hash out the concerning fragmentation that feels inescapable right now and explore what we can do to combat it.

As we face past and current collective traumas, massive inf...

Thomas explores the foundational spiritual building blocks of life, with a particular focus on the concept of space. More than just a void that we occupy physically, space is a key element of life that we co-create. And we need space—for reflection, digestion, integration, and nervous system regulation.

What is Polyvagal Theory and how does it explain the science of feelings?

“The person doesn't have a soul, the soul has a person.”

Can humanity’s ethical and spiritual maturity catch up to our technological progress? Or will this gap in development lead to catastrophe?

What if there was a practice that helped us collectively witness and digest world events without becoming overwhelmed, indifferent, or numb? What if this practice could lead to new levels of collective healing?

In this teaching, Thomas Hubl focuses on the heart as not just a physical organ but a central hub for emotional maturity, spiritual development, mind-body integration, and connection to universal intelligence.

Can we metabolize our pain to create an entry point into liberation? How can spirituality support us in this process?

Trauma makes it difficult to feel joy, but you CAN experience it again, even if you’re in the early stages of your healing journey.

Thomas explores a holistic, interdependent approach to well-being to help us navigate uncertainty, manage stress, and become a source of stability for ourselves and those around us.

Thomas is joined by Terry Real, an acclaimed family therapist, bestselling author, and the founder of The Relational Life Institute. Terry shares insights from his years of work with couples and families struggling to repair their relationships, and how practicing what he calls “Relational Mindfulness” is a game-changer for anyone whose past traumas are negatively impacting their current connections....

Thomas is joined by Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association, to discuss the role of media in shaping sustainability consciousness and how to effectively communicate about environmental issues.

Thomas explores the qualities of leadership and collaboration that are needed to heal collective trauma. He shares how each of us plays a unique role—like musicians in an orchestra—contributing our distinct talents to a larger symphony of healing and transformation. Thomas addresses the impact of fear-based systems rooted in hierarchical power and advocates for shifting toward creative, relational models of leadership. 

Thomas Hübl sits down with celebrated speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, and author Bayo Akomolafe to explore the leading edges of spiritual thinking and human identity. Bayo is a deeply experimental thinker, informed by the African cosmologies of the Yoruba and Igbo traditions. He leads an exploration into a new paradigm of healing that de-centers the individual to focus on the village, on the communal.

Thomas explores the relationship between inner space and outer space, examining the ecosystemic impacts of nervous system regulation, presence, and maturity. 

Thomas and Zen teacher, mediator, and author Diane Musho Hamilton explore two key spiritual concepts—waking up and growing up— and why they’re so crucial in our rapidly changing world. Diane shares personal stories of loss, challenge, and resilience, and how contemplative practice and emotional development became essential tools for navigating adversity. 

In this guided meditation, Thomas invites you to explore the current state of your mind. Explore your attachment to your thoughts and welcome a greater sense of presence and curiosity.

Thomas and award-winning reproductive justice and human rights leader Loretta J. Ross explore how we can address inequality, oppression, and hate in an atmosphere of political division and fast-paced technological progress.

Thomas dives deep into the relationship between spirituality and healing, exploring how maturing our relationship with the divine provides incredible resources on our journey of self-discovery and ethical development.