Think you’re either born a great conversationalist or destined to struggle through awkward small talk forever? Think again. In this episode, I chat with Alison Wood Brooks, behavioral scientist and author of Talk: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves. We dig deep into the hidden mechanics of conversation, the myths holding us back, and tools you can use to connect meaningfully with anyone—whether you’re closing a deal, leading a team, or simply sharing stories with friends and family.
This isn’t your standard “how-to” guide. Alison’s research-backed insights and unique personal anecdotes make this an episode that will shift how you approach every interaction. From the small details of word choice to the big-picture art of building trust, we uncover how the most essential life skill—talking—is also the most overlooked.
Topics We Cover in This Episode:
Why even “bad” small talk can be a bridge to deep connections
The subtle art of asking questions that captivate, not interrogate
Why humor isn’t about being funny—but about finding the fun
Alison’s favorite tricks to save a dying conversation without breaking a sweat
How technology has unlocked groundbreaking ways to study human dialogue
Tools to turn awkward moments into powerful opportunities
Get ready to rethink what it means to truly communicate. This episode is packed with ideas you’ll want to try out immediately.
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