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July 19, 2025 • 49 mins
Your body never forgets and it keeps track of every thought, mood, trauma and emotion, storing them inside your body's tissues. Over time, as these things accumulate in your body, they cause inflammation and contribute to chronic disease and even autoimmune conditions.
This has been well understood by other cultures for thousands of years and is only now being proven by modern science.
TOPICS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE:
- Why stress and trauma is not just a psychological event
- How your body stores emotions and memories in its tissues
- How these emotions can be released by manioulating the physical muscle, fascia or other tissues
- Functional medicine, sound and red light therapy
- How stored emotions can create symptoms that just won't go away - no matter what you do
- Takeaway action steps so you can begin releasing these emotions to heal your physical body
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Josh Dech - CHN (01:54.928)Dr. Jade Tita, welcome to Reversible.
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@jadeteta (01:59.931)Josh, how are you, my friends? Good to be here. Happy to have this conversation. Excited to meet all your listeners. yeah, man, let's get into it.
Josh Dech - CHN (02:07.512)Well, I'm looking forward to today because we've got some interesting stuff on the docket. You know, I talk often about the importance of rest and digest, why we need it. I kind of do surface level stuff on fight or flight, but you've really got a textbook wealth of information about these paths of the nervous system, the sympathetic or parasympathetic as we call them. And I want to get into that, but just before we do, can you introduce yourself to our listeners who may not know who you
@jadeteta (02:32.676)Yeah, yeah, well, I'm happy to be here for all of you listening. And the way to understand me is I'm kind of a hybrid health professional. So I got my start in personal training. Josh and I share that. I actually started personal training at 15 years old and people oftentimes raise their eyes at that. But that's the first time I got paid to write programs.
Of course, that brings you into nutrition, because if you're going to get your people results in the personal training realm, you need to understand nutrition. So I was heavily into that, studied biochemistry in undergrad and got a degree in that. And then this is where sort of my tale of functional medicine starts to figure itself out, because I was on my way to traditional medical school. And any of you at the time, this would have been what, 1996, 97?
And for some reason, Josh, I did not take a close look at the curriculum prior to getting ready to go to medical school. And to my surprise, yeah, oops, to my surprise, there was no training in nutrition, no training in exercise, and no training in psychology. All the things that I had already been doing and all the things that I knew made the biggest difference. So I basically made a direct left turn.
Josh Dech - CHN (03:25.492)Oops.
@jadeteta (03:44.048)Went into a little -known field at the time called naturopathic medicine, which now is called functional medicine basically And I at the time everyone was telling me do not do this. This is witchcraft medicine This is crazy stuff whoo -hoo and you know, and of course I had no idea it was gonna become mainstream and so take that personal trainer throw into the blender a naturopath functional medicine doctor I'm licensed in the states of California and Washington by the way as a primary care physician and then add on top of that a strong dose of psychology I'm currently
Josh Dech - CHN (03:54.317)Voodoo.
@jadeteta (04:13.752)working on my PhD in transpersonal psychology. And so I really bridge all those things together. And you know, I'm also a meathead and love to, you know, get in the gym and dabbling crossfit I have, potty building I've dabbled in, powerlifting. So all of those things, I like to say that my background is mindset, muscle, and metabolism. And so you and I really dovetail a lot in sort of what we do. And so hopefully that gives your listeners a little bit of a background on who
Josh Dech - CHN (04:42.859)I appreciate that. That's perfect. You know, I feel like we're way too closely related in our paths. I got paid for the first time for personal training when I was 16, not 15. So you're my senior here. Now, when you talk about mindset, muscle and metabolism, obviously this shows all about the gut and everything has a gut connection. If our listeners are listening regularly, they already can start drawing some ideas on how this works. But I'd love to sort of define these three things. Mindset.
@jadeteta (04:50.811)Yeah.
Josh Dech - CHN (05:10.321)muscle and metabolism as it pertains to our overall health and wellness and this will be a great jumping off point I think for the rest of the conversation.
@jadeteta (05:17.753)Yeah, well, let's cover mindset first. And it's probably the most complex one in a sense. And complex in terms of it's probably the least understood, the least talked about. Here's the thing to sort of understand. Obviously, when you think about mindset, people immediately will go to the brain.
but the mind really is all over the body, right? And so obviously the gut has its own sort of brain. You know, we might call it the second brain, but there is essentially a mindset component that is guiding the entire body. And to get a little woo woo right off the bat, we can kind of talk about this as the biofield. This biofield, this energetic is the scaffolding on top of which our biochemistry resides. And I
Josh and I know you believe as well that the brain in particular and the gut in particular are most
perhaps a sensitive to this and maybe sensitive is the wrong word, but it is the place where we can most tap in to sort of these mindset components. So to make this real for you, we know that if we have certain emotions, if we get anxious, if we get angry, if we're frustrated, if we find ourselves in resistance, insecurity, depression, we oftentimes feel these things in the gut.
And we oftentimes will see some of these things manifest as symptoms in the gut. Bubbly gut, gas, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, all of these things that we can essentially say are a consequence of an imbalance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. But the mind comes first. The way you are thinking and the way you are feeling
@jadeteta (07:01.641)this whole system. And so we oftentimes forget that habitual ways of thinking and feeling are impacting the biofield, the mind, which is impacting the biochemistry. And then this begins to hit us in brain, body, and the gut. And we see it there a lot. In fact, I would say, you know, whenever you feel like this thing, I have a gut feeling or an intuition. very, we understand very well.
that a lot of these feelings that we have and angst that we have hit us in the gut, whether it's digestive upset, gas and bloating, whether it's heartburn, whether it's any other kind of dysfunctions that come in the gut, gas, pains, constipation, diarrhea, and even diseases, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's, things like that that you and I have talked about, interval bowel syndrome.
So I think when we think about the mindset related to the gut, most people aren't actually thinking about their habitual ways of thinking and feeling. And I'm gonna stop right there, but I do wanna see where you wanna go with this. And then I wanna just prime everyone a little bit that we actually, the way this actually works when we're talking about mindset is it really works from the standpoint of we humans are living from unconscious stories, what I would call mud.
misguided unconscious decisions. These misguided unconscious decisions keep us stuck and they are part of what is driving the dysfunction all over the body, including in the gut. And we can dive into that a little bit deeper because it's a pretty complex area to go. But I think if we're going to treat the mindset part of this fully, we need to understand this aspect of misguided unconscious decisions.
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Josh Dech - CHN (08:45.562)I love this. So many times we get into these conversations and I have it with clients all the time. I you have it with your patients where they come in and they want the answers in the way of supplements. What's the thing I can take? Not what I can do or change or mediate in my own life. What can I take or add in that simple, quick and easy? And what you're talking about is really something that's not going to be easy for a lot of people, but it is laying the foundation for their biochemical health, which affects their microbial and bacterial and digestive health as a general whole.
Okay, so here's what I want to ask you then, Jade. Looking at, you talk about stress and mindset in this biofield that we have. And at the time of recording right now today, I just yesterday spoke to Dr. Bruce Lipton about a lot of these types of things. Fascinating conversations. Make sure you guys listen to that episode. So to double dip on that one, can you sort of define for us stress versus mindset and how it relates to this biofield or our biochemistry?
@jadeteta (09:40.737)Yeah, well stress is a mindset, right? And that's thing that we need to understand. This is why one person can go through a traumatic event and have long lasting post -traumatic stress or post -traumatic dysfunction in the gut. And other people can go through the same types of traumas and not have these things. And the reason why is because they are telling themselves different stories.
regarding the stress. And when you tell yourself a different story or you have a different belief or a different definition about stress, stress doesn't impact you the same.
way. This is a critical thing to understand, right? It's why we can have, you know, two people come out of a war torn, you know, situation when they were young and one person be thriving, be healthy, be functional and happy and fulfilled. And the other person continuing to wrestle with the post -traumatic stress,
dysfunction that that caused. And I'll give you a little bit of a hint, just a metaphor so everyone can kind of understand what this is like. Let's imagine we're out on the plains of Africa on the savanna. And what happens is we're fine at this point, but we see a lion coming towards us, right? We see that lion coming towards us. This is a stress reaction that usually will result in a threat mode response. So we go into threat. That could be fight, flight.
freeze responses. Now, most people understand this approach, right? This kind of thing that our body does. When the lion goes away, what we think happens is that that threat response goes away. But the truth of the matter is if the lion leaves and is no longer there, but we're still on the plains, on the savanna of Africa, we will be in hypervigilance mode, looking around, expecting that lion to come
@jadeteta (11:31.928)And maybe the lion never comes back, but as long as we're out on the savanna, we're going to be in hypervigilance mode. We're going to be in striving mode. This is where stress gets stuck in the body. It is not until we go into a house or a shelter, we get off the savanna that we can then go into safety and rest and digest mode or parasympathetic mode. And so what people don't understand is these
Misguided unconscious decision this mud that we get stuck in come from traumatic events and it doesn't have to be trauma but it can come from events of struggle trials tribulations difficulties anything that when we are in our development as a child and adolescent a young adult and even in adulthood anything that is Misguided in the sense that we don't have the know -how the maturity the wisdom or the tools to deal with it It's unconscious because we're not aware that it's impacting
our mindset, our biofield and our biochemistry. It's this thing that lives in us, follows us around like a shadow that we don't know is there. And here's the critical part. It's a decision because whether we're aware of it or not, we made the choice to see that event a particular way. Now we can easily go in to the mind, to the subconscious and begin to
practice and this is the thing that people don't understand. We can easily do this. We have tools and techniques that allow us to go into the subconscious and begin to unwind some of this misguided unconscious decision that keeps us stuck in struggle and striving mode. So if you encounter a lion and you get stuck in that state, that's what is happening to a lot of people and it is related to gut function and full metabolic function. We just don't realize it's coming
a story and this is why it's stressful for some and not stressful for others because it's the underlying stories we're telling. And this to me is a profound insight if it's something that you've never heard
Josh Dech - CHN (13:34.652)I love it. Can you explain to me then the difference? So we get a lot of people coming in who are dealing with a lot of chronic stress responses. They're fighting, they're flighty, they're in chronic sympathetic overdrive. This is kind of phase one of the stress response. Whereas we take this and disseminate it down to the rest of the body, there's a book you're probably very familiar with, The Body Keeps the Score, where tissues can physically hold traumas and stressors. Way back in my early 20s, my personal training years,
I was working with a mentor of mine and we were going through myofascial and tissue release. He was telling me a story about a client of his and she was over on the lap, pulled down, mid thirties, doing her lats and she was had her arms up and she'd come down and he was putting her thumbs into the lat muscle, get some knots out just to help her get some activation, open up some of these tissue spots. They were chatting away, having a great time and suddenly she just kind of slows down, gets quiet, stops talking. She drops the weight and just starts bawling.
And what happened, there was a muscle knot in there that when it released, it started flooding back these memories of childhood trauma and sexual abuse and all these things she went through. So it's like this memory was almost stored in a little pod inside this muscle and it got open and it just sent shot straight to the brain. What is happening
@jadeteta (14:47.994)Yes. Yeah. Well, here's the interesting thing. If we look at it just simply from a tissue perspective and we look at it strictly from a biochemical perspective, we don't know what's happening. But as soon as you sort of understand this biofield response and that the mind and is essentially all over the body and being permeated, you can see that a very simple example of this would be being tight in one area, let's say, while the trauma is going
and that area gets stored there. Let me give you an example from my life actually. So I was on a hiking trip in the Grand Canyon and I had misprepared. Anyway, long story short, I had a near -death experience, almost went into heat exhaustion. They had to basically pull me out of the Grand Canyon so that I didn't go into heat exhaustion. About two months after that, I'm walking around Chicago in a
summer day, sunbeating down on me, I'm starting to sweat, I'm moving my body in the same way that I was moving before and boom, the memory comes back and my body reacts as if I'm dying. This is where these panic attacks come from. So now if you've ever had a panic attack, now think about this just localized to a particular area of the body. It can hit you in the gut, it can hit you in the... So it is a localized panic attack and it comes from the body remembering
holding itself in a particular way during that event. And so anyone who's ever had a panic attack can understand a little bit about what's happening here. Just think of this as a micro panic attack at the tissue level as the tissue opens up or you do something to it. And by the way, this is exactly what I'm talking about here. You can think of this almost like a story stuck in that tissue. And when that tissue is released or manipulated in a particular way,
The story that that tissue holds is released and that also releases it into the mind as well. And so we have this back and forth sort of dualistic thing where the body can trigger memories and emotions and emotions can trigger and emotions and memories can trigger the body. And so these two things aren't separate. We know this, we use terms like mind, body reactions and things like that, but we don't always get to see it unless you're in the clinical world and working with the stuff. Talk to any...
@jadeteta (17:08.946)massage therapist or anything like that and you will see they see this stuff all the time and speaking of the gut one of the things I learned in medical school was a visceral manipulation so manipulating the viscera the stomach of the intestines and doing stomach massages and things like that and you would often have people emote or have emotional responses or tighten up in certain areas and you'll see this dual emotional response related to these holding patterns and I think the gut
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because it's so innervated, right? You got the brain and the gut, these two hubs of nervous system tissue. You also have, if we're gonna go into the esoteric world, which the chakra system, which now science has proven chakras exist. We have several studies showing that they do. We've got three chakras sitting right along that axis that essentially are controlling or feeding energetics into the gut. And so this is partly how I think this happens. And I'll walk...
you all through just briefly the steps. Stress in and of itself is not necessarily the problem. Stress that you can't respond to or is too intense or prolonged is the problem because short -term stress that you can actually handle leads to strength. So we have stress into strength or resilience. However, if it continues, you go from stress to striving. And if it continues, you go from striving to struggle.
And if it continues or is super intense all at once, you go from struggle into shock. And so what ends up happening is a lot of people are stuck in their gut, stuck in their body because they're stuck in their energetic biofield in striving struggle or shock. And that then creates this dysfunction. Now, can we deal with this through supplements and dietary changes and things like that? Yes, but it is not nearly as effective as
doing the work in the mindset realm, reprogramming the nervous system and more importantly reprogramming the stories that we told, these misguided unconscious decisions that get stuck in our cellular tissue because they're stuck in our energetic emotional
Josh Dech - CHN (19:22.381)This is amazing and it actually adds a lot of body, so to speak, to a lot of other instances of stories I've heard. We talk about how these emotions translate, how the body adapts. You're talking about how memories and stories get stored in areas of the body. We can emote through these things as they release certain energetic biochemical reactions. So going back, I've heard many stories of people getting organ transplants, for example, and taking on personality traits of others. There was a father who I suppose...
Story that I'd read about that he got into a car accident. He was very fatally injured He ended up getting a heart transplant, but the fella he got the heart transplant from was quite the philanderer So he went from this loving nuclear family faithful husband over a couple of years started to develop more of these tendencies There was another one of a mother she got forget what it was I don't know it was a kidney or part of a liver something that she had gotten from a fella Who was more the evil Knievel type like to take risks a big motorcycle driver. He actually died in a motorcycle accident
And within a few months or years of her getting this organ now transplanted, she started to develop more these risk -taking dangerous behaviors that she had never taken before. And we see this all the time. And the level of adaptation, we look at tissues and the body is so mechanical, but there was a recent story that came out. There was a woman down in India or Nepal. She had gotten two arm transplants, petite lady. She got two arm transplants from a man, bigger guy. So clearly they're big, large, long bones, hairy, thick hands.
But over the years, the hands became more feminized. They actually became more slender and delicate and looked like large female hands, but no longer like hairy knuckled man hands like you and I've got. And it's incredible, the adaptation on these levels. And so when you're talking about this stuff, you're talking about your experience going through and experiencing this second heat stroke almost from just being in a hot day.
Is this the translation that you put into MUD, these misguided unconscious decisions? Is that what that is or am I misinterpreting?
@jadeteta (21:20.612)No, it 1000 % is and what I'm saying is these misguided unconscious decisions that we have keep us stuck in the mud of repeated patterns, recurrent obstacles, stuck emotions in our lives, but also can get stuck in our physiology as well. And so now we have to, once we start to understand this, which by the way, you know, you and I are, you know, and I've had you on my podcast as well. And so one of the things
Did I lose you, Josh?
@jadeteta (22:19.394)don't know if you're on, Josh. I don't think you are. I you got knocked off. So I'm just going to wait a sec to see if you come back on.
Josh Dech - CHN (24:51.855)Gotcha
Josh Dech - CHN (24:57.979)Test test.
Josh Dech - CHN (25:09.777)Can you hear me okay, Jade?
@jadeteta (25:18.263)So Josh, I don't know if you can hear me, but I don't see you. I just see black.
@jadeteta (25:35.509)How are you brother? I don't know what happened. I got you, yeah. Yeah, you just went, like you just disappeared from me. So I was like, he must have lost function. I don't know what that is. I will tell you one thing. No, I had been playing around with Riverside all day today, trying to do live stream settings. So I wonder if that, I wonder if that was it.
Josh Dech - CHN (25:37.742)Can hear me now? Weird, yeah, cause yours went black, then mine went black. We're back.
Josh Dech - CHN (25:56.569)Yeah.
I wonder if it's on the Riverside side. No problem. Well, I got us on a secondary recording here, so that'll be okay. Do remember where you left off? I got some notes.
It's all right. We just talked about mud, your experience getting stuck inside of tissues and sort of how that all comes to be. And we were talking about the unconscious choices or decisions of that manifestation when you went to Chicago.
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@jadeteta (26:24.433)Okay, yeah, so.
Here's the thing with these misguided unconscious decisions. They can get stuck in our body and they can also get stuck in sort of more of our brain, the stories we tell. We absolutely can unwind these and when we do, we will oftentimes notice changes in the tissue and emotions coming from those tissues. Let me give you an example. So one of the tools that we use to unwind these misguided unconscious decisions is breath work. So breath
many different types, holotropic breath work, Kundalini breath work, but I use basically a type of breath work that I call breath enhanced emotional processing. So it's very fast breaths focusing on the inhale, longer inhale, shorter exhales that put you in more of a sympathetic dominant state for in a controlled way.
And what ends up happening is during this breath enhanced emotional processing, we can prompt you, and what I'll do is prompt the individual to go back to a memory, go back to emotion, or go back to a feeling in the body. And what will happen in this process as they are breathing and focusing on where these feelings are in the body, you'll oftentimes find they're most often gonna be in the gut, interestingly enough.
But once we do that and they begin to emote, they will oftentimes see imagery, symbolism, feeling. Here's the thing to understand, the subconscious mind does not think in logic and linearity. It is more symbolism, it is more feeling, it is more metaphor. And so during these breath work processes, this is one technique, not the only technique, you will oftentimes see
@jadeteta (28:15.785)individuals begin to feel discomfort in certain areas of the body. And instead of avoiding that and trying to distract themselves, if they go into it, we have them name the emotion, we have them, you know, almost dialogue with the emotion as if it is a best friend that's trying to give them information. And when they do this, they will oftentimes have flashback to memories. They will oftentimes see the pain or dysfunction in that area move to other parts of the air of their body and or dissolve.
And what oftentimes happening is as soon as we finish that breath work, we do the next piece that also gets after this mud, is exposure therapies. There's been a lot of research with something called written exposure therapy for post -traumatic stress disorder. This is a technique that essentially goes back to these uncomfortable feelings, these traumatic events or these memories, and essentially writes about what happened, what it felt like, and then writes into the future of the lessons that these emotions gave you. And what oftentimes happens
is people begin to understand their symptoms and their management begins to, their management of their symptoms begins to change. For example, I've seen stark differences in HRVs pre and post that last. I have seen mood shifts pre and post some of these treatments that last far beyond the treatments. I have seen conditions like irritable bowel syndrome and other things that last long, that sort of wrap themselves up or...
essentially become, you know, lack of a diagnosis, cure is a bad word, but they're essentially cured for lack of a better term, simply from working on these emotional states. And of course the treatments that a lot of people, you and I know in this field use, supplements, drugs, other kinds of things, vagus nerve stimulation, all that kind of stuff, start to work better. So this gives you an idea about the mindset aspect of this and different things that we can do. There's other tools too, psychedelics,
you know, all the rage nowadays, those things can be useful as well. I just don't like to use those kind of big force guns because to me, I like to be more pinpoint in what we're actually dealing with. So to me, this gets at the mud, the misguided unconscious decision stories in the brain, and also the corresponding stuck sensations in the body, including in the gut. And this begins to theoretically adjust the biofield, free up the energetics in that area.
@jadeteta (30:41.57)and begin to just like you might remove a block or a clot to increase blood flow, you're basically removing energetic blocks and essentially improving function that
Josh Dech - CHN (30:55.432)You know, there's a lot of people out there who will go through things like acupuncture, which is neurological, energetic, meridian lines. And at the same time, going biofields and energy and frequency is all BS. I know because I was one of those people. And so I self -contradicted. And then you go through this whole thing where, you know, 92 % of our disease manifestations have a stress route to them. And there's a lot of different ideology behind
And again, I was also one of those people who went, no, I'm not stressed. I'm super chill. I'm pretty hippie dippy. You get me coming into a traffic jam like, well, we're taking the scenic route. well, and somebody else freaks out. You know, something bad happens. And I'm like, well, this is just like, don't attach an emotion to it, but I can still identify knowing what I know now through my experiences are still stress manifestations. So what do we say in your experience and your practice to these people who might be listening going, okay, well, I love the first half. I'm interested in the energy and the biofields and
the mud, but I don't have stress. You're talking about stress and stress manifestations. That's not
@jadeteta (31:57.086)Yeah, well, we all have coping mechanisms and a lot of the sort hippie dippy chill vibe that a lot of us have from people pleasing to I'm chill to also the reactions that we think are not great, like, you know, being hyper reactive and things like that. All of these are different.
coping mechanisms. And here's the thing, we all have times in our lives and in our childhood especially where we encountered events that we did not have the knowledge, wisdom, know -how, tools to deal with. This is where this stuff comes from and it doesn't have to lead to feelings of angst and anxiety all of the time. In fact, some of the individuals who are most gonna benefit most from these things will
relate to having any dysfunctions at all, but what they will see and how we will know it's there is repeated patterns, recurrent obstacles, and stuck emotions that come up again and again. So let's just say they're chill most of the time, but whatever happens in their romantic relationships,
this they get angsty or they get avoidant or they get overly anxiously attached. This is pointing back to mud. You can also see this show up in things like finances and stories are because finance is so related to safety and security. And this is a key need of the child that we develop as children. So individuals who run into the financial issues again and again, this would be like someone who wins the lottery, right? But can't keep the money and goes poor. Someone who gets a new job, more money, but ends up having the same money in their bank account.
This is how we know. You also see it in health and fitness. The same people trying the same diets, different diets. They lose the weight, they gain it back. All of this is pointing to the fact that your habits and behaviors are not enough. Well, guess where habits and behaviors come out of? They come out of identity. And guess what forms identity? Beliefs, definitions, and stories. And guess what forms those? A lot of this misguided, unconscious decision. So it doesn't have to be something
@jadeteta (33:59.681)you feel in your body or your head as stress throughout your whole life, it also can show up, and I think it shows up mostly with repeated patterns, stuck emotions, recurrent obstacles out in the world in which we're living. And then you can begin to correspond that with certain issues. For example, what I have noticed in my clinical pride is that in an inordinate amount of these individuals that are most, you know, and they tend to be the people pleaser types, they tend to be the types
don't seem to be like I'm not stressed and they'll say that they seem to be the ones who get the autoimmune conditions or they seem to be the ones who are avoiding. There's several different ways that we can deal with emotional wounds, right? We can blame, we can blame, we can whimper, we can whine. We can distract and deny. We also can hurt other people, but what we're talking about right now is we're talking about the distract and deny people. They've developed good quality coping mechanisms that look
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good in the outside world, but distracting and denying isn't getting to the issue any more than blaming and complaining and whimpering and whining is. And that's how I explain it. So we all have it. It just depends on how much it's influencing our health.
Josh Dech - CHN (35:12.817)All right, so all the listeners, click the link in the show notes for your free link to get your own mirror so you can self -reflect. So we got mud. We go through and identify these misguided, unconscious decisions that we make, whether it's, again, you say very unconscious, it's on a tissue level, on a somatic level, nervous system, you have these fight, flight, freeze, and fawn reactions, you have these different coping mechanisms, and then you go through, your acronym was BEEP. It was a bioelectric emotional process, was that it? Breath enhanced.
@jadeteta (35:38.75)So breath enhanced emotional process. So what we're doing is we're using the breath. What we're doing is we're using the breath to essentially prompt the nervous system to release and expose these memories.
Josh Dech - CHN (35:42.501)I made up two words on my own.
@jadeteta (35:53.978)these emotions, these uncomfortable feelings. And so one of things that people may not know, but breath is one of the fastest ways that we can alter our consciousness. If we slow down our breathing and enhance the exhalations, we can put ourselves into very calming states. If we speed up and focus on our inhalations, we can put ourselves in altered states of consciousness, similar to being on a psychedelic. And so this is essentially what we're doing. We're trying to alter the consciousness in a way that allows
us to have access to some of these unconscious processing. And one of the things, and I know you'll relate to this as well, Josh, but one of the things that I learned in medical, so one of the first principles we learn is the body has natural healing capability. We cut our finger, we know, right? All we have to do is keep it clean. The body's going to heal it itself. Same thing here. When we essentially clean our bioenergetics, which to me, I'm thinking about this as
The beep, the breath is cleansing. Also written exposure therapy has an interesting acronym, WET. It's like cleansing us off. So in a sense, when we cleanse our energetic system in this way, it knows what to do. And this is why you'll oftentimes find people being like, why am I emoting this way? I felt like I wanted to cry. I felt like I wanted to have this memory or something. And by the way,
This happens a lot of times when you're in these altered states of consciousness. If you've ever been in a movie or watching a show or something like that, and you don't tend to cry and get too upset about other things most of the time, but you're watching a commercial and all of a sudden you get emotional over a commercial or something like that, it's largely because you're in an altered state of consciousness. Your unconsciousness is more at the prime there and basically you're being triggered to release that. So all we're doing is inducing that state through breath work and journaling. And then we can have access to some of these unconscious processes.
that are going on in the body and the brain.
Josh Dech - CHN (37:52.561)Wow. So we've gone through mud, we went through beep, we went through wet. You have your misguided unconscious decisions that we can start to identify in some way, shape or form. We do your breath enhanced emotional processes where you do this somatic breath work and very deliberate breath patterning. And then we use wet, which is your written exposure therapy to bring some of these to the surface. Is the next stage from there then conscious processing? Is it talk therapy? Is it going and breaking stuff? Like what does that look like or is that individualized?
@jadeteta (38:20.552)Yeah, so, you know, there's really a three -step process here. It's first rewrite the misguided unconscious decision. So we write the story. Second is rewire the nervous system, right? So this is very much what most people are doing gut stuff. They know all about this. We've taken care of both of those stages, by the way, using breath enhanced emotional processing, using journaling. We also can use vagus nerve stimulation and other things. But the final piece is now we retrain the brain and you retrain the brain through exposure through real exposure therapy.
what I would call be it till you see it or as if principle. Now what essentially that means is we could put you in meditative states that put you in feelings of love and feelings of gratitude and appreciation and fulfillment and joy. So we'll use visualization meditation and then we will actually also use
What we would call exposure therapy. So I actually will give my patients real -world activities to do where they're actually putting themselves in stressful states usually around you know quote the toxic people in their lives and the people that they have difficulty with some of the times these people that at the time were you know, maybe partly responsible for some of the things that they seem as Traumatic in their life and this can be done through again journaling if you can't if you don't have access to the person or
want to have access to the person for whatever reason, but it also can be actually going out in the real world and taking on particular tasks. Like for example, I worked with a client last week that essentially we had been working on issues around the way she was raised with her parents. Now she's a mid -twentysome young woman
struggles with her parents and suffered through her parents dysfunction. And as we've been processing this, she has been releasing and shedding a lot of this misguided unconscious decision and her nervous system is getting different. So what she said to me last week is she said, this is really interesting Jade, I was talking to my mom and normally I'm completely triggered and I'll trigger and I'll react to what she says. And this time I didn't react at all. I just sort of watched him. It's really interesting to see that the trigger wasn't there.
@jadeteta (40:35.049)the stage where I start saying, okay, now we're gonna start talking to your mom more, and we're gonna see if we can get you triggered. We're gonna see if you can actually talk to her more and lean into that more. And so now the process becomes interacting with her mother and father in a different way, almost doing like a psychological black ops experiment where her parents don't know what she's doing, but she is subtly changing the relationship that they have by her showing up different.
And so now she practices that. So now we've rewritten the mud, we've rewired the nervous system, and now we're retraining the brain. And all of this together allows her to really what it is, Josh, it's identity shifting. It's restructuring her identity. And by the way, my theory is...
When you do this, the biofield necessarily changes because we are essentially just frequency. And when that frequency changes like a tuning fork, you go from 430 hertz, let's say to 500 hertz. And that is a different reality. It's a different reality for your tissues. It's a different reality for your gut. It's a different reality for your nervous system. And now your biochemistry.
begins to change as well. And by the way, I mean, not to get too technical here, but we do know, we do have a pretty good theory about how this is happening from biofield to biochemistry. In the middle there is structured water, this sort of water layer that is unique to the body. And if you've ever seen water sitting on top of a speaker and you put sound through and you can see the shapes that that water makes, that's what's happening. Think about all of a sudden, now what you're doing is you're feeling
you put your feeling throughout your body, this water vibrates, it's almost like music for the water and it changes its shape and that changes all the physiology that that water is in contact with. And so what we believe is happening here is biofield to biochemistry, that translation happens through the structured water layer that we are now understanding is a fourth phase of water, right? That is unique to biological systems and that water can essentially hold memory, hold frequency and pass that frequency
@jadeteta (42:39.098)So this is partly what is going on here. And I know it's brand new stuff and it's the first time someone's heard it. It sounds completely woo woo and crazy, but this is where people are going and getting fantastic results when the constant supplements, constant drugs and constant other stuff is not working. And let's face it, there's an awful lot of people out there like that who are taking bucket loads of supplements and doing all the protocols.
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and not seeing the change. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. What I'm saying is there is a layer deeper that can make this stuff stick and get
Josh Dech - CHN (43:16.274)So mean theoretically you could be doing this with just about anything you could do it with any stress obviously triggers and I use the word trigger loosely there's obviously PTSD triggers then there's triggers with just people you don't like you see somebody don't like you just get angry it might not be lashing out or throwing things or you know wanting to fight somebody but it's a trigger it's it's something that instigates an emotional response you could theoretically apply this to likes dislikes I'm not a morning person you might be soon is that
@jadeteta (43:44.374)That's exactly right. The way to think about it in this third phase of things is think about it. The best way to think about it is when you dress up in the morning, you pick out your clothes, right? You know, I typically have a uniform, right? I usually wear a V -neck t -shirt, Good Life t -shirt and some Mavi jeans. It's pretty much every day. Got like Good Life t -shirt and Mavi jeans I put on every day. And this is what people do with their thoughts and their feelings. They're essentially getting dressed in a thought wardrobe and in a feeling wardrobe.
every single day and they're not aware that they're bathing their biochemistry in that thought wardrobe and in that feeling wardrobe because they're bathing that water layer in that wardrobe and that is communicating to the cells and so change that wardrobe you change the physiological state of the
Josh Dech - CHN (44:30.117)It's amazing, absolutely amazing. So we have this hardware is our physical brain, our physical body. It is what it is. It's constantly degrading or growing over time. We can always update at any point in time with some effort our own software, our thoughts, our processes, our emotions, our inputs, our outputs, our biofields. All these things can constantly be updated or upgraded how we desire to, if we are willing to put in the work to do so.
@jadeteta (44:56.521)Yeah, and the way to think about it is it goes both directions, right? So think here you are in the middle on one side is your physical choices and reactions and the brain watches those choices and reactions and goes, Josh is making these choices and reactions. Jade's making these choices and these actions. And so here's how we respond biochemically. Now on the other side.
Not only are we having actions and choices, but we are having thoughts and feelings. And those thoughts and feelings are also permeating from the other side and essentially saying, okay, here's who I am. And so the brain goes, here are my choices and reactions. Here are my thoughts and feelings. This is my identity. This is my reality. Now, before you can see or before you can think different, feel different, choose different and act different, you have to see differently. So what we're doing is we're pulling out and going, let's allow the nervous system
to see itself differently. So now it's easier to make the choices, take the actions, have the thoughts and the feelings. And this begins to make the difference. And now all of a sudden, maybe the berberine works, the glutamine works, the probiotic begins to work because it's working in a different cellular sort of milieu, if that makes sense.
Josh Dech - CHN (46:09.324)Hmm. I'll throw a theory at you then, just ask your opinion. You get somebody who comes in, I should say a theoretical, hypothetical. You get somebody who comes in and they definitely have a lot of this emotional stuff and it's been causing their gut issues. They go through mud, they go through the breath enhanced emotional processing and they do the written exposure therapy and they do all this. They're still having some issues with their GI system. Obviously there's now residual damage. There's gonna be the microbial issues, the immune dropping, maybe it brought parasites in.
Maybe there's nutrient deficiencies and they're managing all this, but there's something still just feels stuck. Is this now a good idea to go into physical tissue manipulation through massage or osteo or acupuncture? Is that the next step you would look
@jadeteta (46:52.715)Yeah, think so. think when you look at this, don't think it's not one, what I'm talking about is not one standalone treatment. have to put in the nutrients, right? The body needs certain things to build those tissues back. And yes, and then I think there's actually a couple things we can do. Light, frequency through music.
tissue manipulations and things like that. And also, of course, you know, we have individuals who do, you know, essentially biofield work. A lot of times people would call this reiki or acupuncture or qigong or any of these kinds of things. And so, yes, physical manipulation. Yes, energetic manipulation. Yes, using things like music and light. And this is why we're seeing things like red light therapy applied to the gut can be beneficial. We can see red light therapy applied to certain tissues
be beneficial. We can see the use of frequencies now. This is why acupuncture can be so powerful. It's also why we will see. And again, people may not realize this, but there's actual research in the research paper showing things like, know, reiki practitioners can decrease inflammation, can cause decreased symptomology in individuals with
many different things from joint pain to gut dysfunction, et cetera. So we have a lot of other tools. I also think, you you and I were talking about this idea right before we popped on of, you know, of myofascial stuff and body pains and things like that. And even just adjusting the myofascial system, because they believe these individuals who are doing the research in quantum metabolism or quantum biology believes the fascia in particular.
is holding an awful lot of this information because it is also holding this water layer. And also in the acupuncture research, this is partly where the meridians they think are coming from. It's closely related to these fascial adhesions and these areas in these acupuncture points where the fascial converge. And so there's many, many other tools that we can use. But I think the point of this that we're really getting to is this idea that looking beyond simply
@jadeteta (49:03.637)the current things that people are doing, which is, me work out, let me change my diet, let me take a bunch of supplements and do a bunch of gut protocols. What I would say is, yes, all that's great. Nothing at all wrong with that. But also if you're not getting better, what you need to understand is that this is in the nervous system and more importantly, it's in the bio field. And thoughts and feelings and these misguided, unconscious decisions and all of this stuff underneath.
needs to be addressed. We are a holistic system. We cannot just reduce ourselves to pure
Josh Dech - CHN (49:41.05)I want to throw one more question at you then because you mentioned sound it's something I've been exploring a lot more recently as well with all these bio fields and energetics and the quantum physics and mechanics I'm looking at quantum entanglement how these things are all tied and connected it's just blowing my mind for the listeners we will get there I promise. Do you have any experience with the rife machine?
@jadeteta (50:00.001)I do
Josh Dech - CHN (50:02.063)Bummer, another time then.
@jadeteta (50:03.123)Yeah, another time. Yeah, yeah. I will tell you this on sound though, which is pretty amazing. There's like, you know, for example, humming. Something incredibly simple that we can do. This will dramatically impact vagus nerve stimulation and calm the nervous system down. It also has impacts on nitric oxide and immune function. So just humming...
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ourselves and having these energetic frequencies kind of go into our system through our own, you know, emoting of our voice. We can impact individuals. We also know, for example, recent studies on 432 Hertz, people with ADHD, when they listen to beehives and things like this, which are at like the 432 Hertz, they calm down. If you've ever walked and just go on Spotify or something and put a 432 Hertz playlist and go walk out in nature,
and see what happens to all the sounds. Bird sounds coming through sound different, everything sounds more relaxing. This is to me gonna be a big part of the future of what we do. But unfortunately, and I know this is old hat to you too, people like you and me, these are not necessarily our first fields of study, but because we are holistic, open -minded individuals who are wanting to get people results, we're always digging, which means now we have to learn.
quantum physics and we have to learn you know some of this stuff on cephalgeal frequencies and binaural beats and all this other stuff and so like you said to your listeners there's a lot more to come a lot of what we're talking about now we're gonna be like we were slightly wrong about that here's you know where we've adjusted but this to me is where things are going and of course you what you're seeing is and I'll say this and you know maybe as we begin to wrap it up Josh and you can tell me what you think about this but
The listeners may be disappointed to hear me say this, but from my perspective as a functional medicine practitioner, I have to say, most of the time, I went into functional medicine because traditional medicine was failing in chronic disease a lot. And functional medicine does a much better job of it, but I still don't think it does a great job. And that is disappointing to a lot of people. In other words, the success rates are pretty low in medicine in general, which to me means we're missing something.
@jadeteta (52:23.428)pretty big and important. And I don't know if this is it, but I can tell you in terms of the results that I'm getting, my results are much, much better when I'm incorporating these types of techniques. I mean, much, much better. So whether this is the end of it or just the beginning, and I suspect it's just the tip of the iceberg in this world of what we might want to call quantum metabolism, this is the direction that I think a lot of people need.
to go and need to
Josh Dech - CHN (52:54.689)Very exciting stuff, very exciting future. I have an interview coming up, we're scheduling in with a fellow named John Stuart Reed who invented the SimaScope and he's gonna be talking with us about the song of cancers and the song of sickness and how they actually measure these sound waves and frequencies from diseases and illnesses and they can see all this stuff. It's really amazing, so we will dive into this further on a later date, but for those of you who don't wanna spend...
$25 ,000 on a SimaScope or whatever they may cost, they wanna meet with you, Jade. How are they gonna do that? Where can they find you and reach you?
@jadeteta (53:27.934)Yeah, well, I appreciate you having me, Josh. You all can get me at jade .tita on all social media platforms. Check out my websites jade .tita .com and nextlevelhuman .com. And I have my own podcast called the Next Level Human podcast, which Josh was on as well. And so, yeah, you can find me all there. And Josh, thanks for your work. I appreciate you very much, my friend.
Josh Dech - CHN (53:50.581)It's always a pleasure, Jade. Before we wrap this thing up and press the end button here, is there any final last words you'd to leave our listeners with or something we haven't talked about or mentioned that you'd like to drop as a knowledge
@jadeteta (54:01.393)You know, all I would say is that from my perspective, we humans, right, we want more than anything else to matter and to make a difference in the world. And so this stuff that we're talking about, these misguided, unconscious decisions, yes, we're talking about it from the gut health perspective, but this is also how you begin to unravel your purpose. And to me, purpose is the number one thing, the number one protector against age, against, you know,
dysfunction and disease and depression, its purpose. And we're living with these erroneous stories about our worthiness, about our safety, about our security, about our acceptance and belonging. When you unravel these things, you're not just doing better for your physical health, you're actually freeing yourself up to live a very purposeful, fulfilled life, because you get to leave all that baggage behind. That's the final thing I would say.
Josh Dech - CHN (54:56.71)It's a beautiful way to wrap it up. couldn't have asked for a better ending, start or middle, quite frankly. Always a delight talking with you, Jay. Thanks so much for being here and dropping these huge, huge knowledge bombs. I've got a lot of digging and mirror purchasing to do, so thank you.
@jadeteta (55:10.62)Appreciate you, my friend.
Josh Dech - CHN (01:54.928)Dr. Jade Tita, welcome to Reversible.
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@jadeteta (01:59.931)Josh, how are you, my friends? Good to be here. Happy to have this conversation. Excited to meet all your listeners. yeah, man, let's get into it.
Josh Dech - CHN (02:07.512)Well, I'm looking forward to today because we've got some interesting stuff on the docket. You know, I talk often about the importance of rest and digest, why we need it. I kind of do surface level stuff on fight or flight, but you've really got a textbook wealth of information about these paths of the nervous system, the sympathetic or parasympathetic as we call them. And I want to get into that, but just before we do, can you introduce yourself to our listeners who may not know who you
@jadeteta (02:32.676)Yeah, yeah, well, I'm happy to be here for all of you listening. And the way to understand me is I'm kind of a hybrid health professional. So I got my start in personal training. Josh and I share that. I actually started personal training at 15 years old and people oftentimes raise their eyes at that. But that's the first time I got paid to write programs.
Of course, that brings you into nutrition, because if you're going to get your people results in the personal training realm, you need to understand nutrition. So I was heavily into that, studied biochemistry in undergrad and got a degree in that. And then this is where sort of my tale of functional medicine starts to figure itself out, because I was on my way to traditional medical school. And any of you at the time, this would have been what, 1996, 97?
And for some reason, Josh, I did not take a close look at the curriculum prior to getting ready to go to medical school. And to my surprise, yeah, oops, to my surprise, there was no training in nutrition, no training in exercise, and no training in psychology. All the things that I had already been doing and all the things that I knew made the biggest difference. So I basically made a direct left turn.
Josh Dech - CHN (03:25.492)Oops.
@jadeteta (03:44.048)Went into a little -known field at the time called naturopathic medicine, which now is called functional medicine basically And I at the time everyone was telling me do not do this. This is witchcraft medicine This is crazy stuff whoo -hoo and you know, and of course I had no idea it was gonna become mainstream and so take that personal trainer throw into the blender a naturopath functional medicine doctor I'm licensed in the states of California and Washington by the way as a primary care physician and then add on top of that a strong dose of psychology I'm currently
Josh Dech - CHN (03:54.317)Voodoo.
@jadeteta (04:13.752)working on my PhD in transpersonal psychology. And so I really bridge all those things together. And you know, I'm also a meathead and love to, you know, get in the gym and dabbling crossfit I have, potty building I've dabbled in, powerlifting. So all of those things, I like to say that my background is mindset, muscle, and metabolism. And so you and I really dovetail a lot in sort of what we do. And so hopefully that gives your listeners a little bit of a background on who
Josh Dech - CHN (04:42.859)I appreciate that. That's perfect. You know, I feel like we're way too closely related in our paths. I got paid for the first time for personal training when I was 16, not 15. So you're my senior here. Now, when you talk about mindset, muscle and metabolism, obviously this shows all about the gut and everything has a gut connection. If our listeners are listening regularly, they already can start drawing some ideas on how this works. But I'd love to sort of define these three things. Mindset.
@jadeteta (04:50.811)Yeah.
Josh Dech - CHN (05:10.321)muscle and metabolism as it pertains to our overall health and wellness and this will be a great jumping off point I think for the rest of the conversation.
@jadeteta (05:17.753)Yeah, well, let's cover mindset first. And it's probably the most complex one in a sense. And complex in terms of it's probably the least understood, the least talked about. Here's the thing to sort of understand. Obviously, when you think about mindset, people immediately will go to the brain.
but the mind really is all over the body, right? And so obviously the gut has its own sort of brain. You know, we might call it the second brain, but there is essentially a mindset component that is guiding the entire body. And to get a little woo woo right off the bat, we can kind of talk about this as the biofield. This biofield, this energetic is the scaffolding on top of which our biochemistry resides. And I
Josh and I know you believe as well that the brain in particular and the gut in particular are most
perhaps a sensitive to this and maybe sensitive is the wrong word, but it is the place where we can most tap in to sort of these mindset components. So to make this real for you, we know that if we have certain emotions, if we get anxious, if we get angry, if we're frustrated, if we find ourselves in resistance, insecurity, depression, we oftentimes feel these things in the gut.
And we oftentimes will see some of these things manifest as symptoms in the gut. Bubbly gut, gas, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, all of these things that we can essentially say are a consequence of an imbalance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. But the mind comes first. The way you are thinking and the way you are feeling
@jadeteta (07:01.641)this whole system. And so we oftentimes forget that habitual ways of thinking and feeling are impacting the biofield, the mind, which is impacting the biochemistry. And then this begins to hit us in brain, body, and the gut. And we see it there a lot. In fact, I would say, you know, whenever you feel like this thing, I have a gut feeling or an intuition. very, we understand very well.
that a lot of these feelings that we have and angst that we have hit us in the gut, whether it's digestive upset, gas and bloating, whether it's heartburn, whether it's any other kind of dysfunctions that come in the gut, gas, pains, constipation, diarrhea, and even diseases, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's, things like that that you and I have talked about, interval bowel syndrome.
So I think when we think about the mindset related to the gut, most people aren't actually thinking about their habitual ways of thinking and feeling. And I'm gonna stop right there, but I do wanna see where you wanna go with this. And then I wanna just prime everyone a little bit that we actually, the way this actually works when we're talking about mindset is it really works from the standpoint of we humans are living from unconscious stories, what I would call mud.
misguided unconscious decisions. These misguided unconscious decisions keep us stuck and they are part of what is driving the dysfunction all over the body, including in the gut. And we can dive into that a little bit deeper because it's a pretty complex area to go. But I think if we're going to treat the mindset part of this fully, we need to understand this aspect of misguided unconscious decisions.
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Josh Dech - CHN (08:45.562)I love this. So many times we get into these conversations and I have it with clients all the time. I you have it with your patients where they come in and they want the answers in the way of supplements. What's the thing I can take? Not what I can do or change or mediate in my own life. What can I take or add in that simple, quick and easy? And what you're talking about is really something that's not going to be easy for a lot of people, but it is laying the foundation for their biochemical health, which affects their microbial and bacterial and digestive health as a general whole.
Okay, so here's what I want to ask you then, Jade. Looking at, you talk about stress and mindset in this biofield that we have. And at the time of recording right now today, I just yesterday spoke to Dr. Bruce Lipton about a lot of these types of things. Fascinating conversations. Make sure you guys listen to that episode. So to double dip on that one, can you sort of define for us stress versus mindset and how it relates to this biofield or our biochemistry?
@jadeteta (09:40.737)Yeah, well stress is a mindset, right? And that's thing that we need to understand. This is why one person can go through a traumatic event and have long lasting post -traumatic stress or post -traumatic dysfunction in the gut. And other people can go through the same types of traumas and not have these things. And the reason why is because they are telling themselves different stories.
regarding the stress. And when you tell yourself a different story or you have a different belief or a different definition about stress, stress doesn't impact you the same.
way. This is a critical thing to understand, right? It's why we can have, you know, two people come out of a war torn, you know, situation when they were young and one person be thriving, be healthy, be functional and happy and fulfilled. And the other person continuing to wrestle with the post -traumatic stress,
dysfunction that that caused. And I'll give you a little bit of a hint, just a metaphor so everyone can kind of understand what this is like. Let's imagine we're out on the plains of Africa on the savanna. And what happens is we're fine at this point, but we see a lion coming towards us, right? We see that lion coming towards us. This is a stress reaction that usually will result in a threat mode response. So we go into threat. That could be fight, flight.
freeze responses. Now, most people understand this approach, right? This kind of thing that our body does. When the lion goes away, what we think happens is that that threat response goes away. But the truth of the matter is if the lion leaves and is no longer there, but we're still on the plains, on the savanna of Africa, we will be in hypervigilance mode, looking around, expecting that lion to come
@jadeteta (11:31.928)And maybe the lion never comes back, but as long as we're out on the savanna, we're going to be in hypervigilance mode. We're going to be in striving mode. This is where stress gets stuck in the body. It is not until we go into a house or a shelter, we get off the savanna that we can then go into safety and rest and digest mode or parasympathetic mode. And so what people don't understand is these
Misguided unconscious decision this mud that we get stuck in come from traumatic events and it doesn't have to be trauma but it can come from events of struggle trials tribulations difficulties anything that when we are in our development as a child and adolescent a young adult and even in adulthood anything that is Misguided in the sense that we don't have the know -how the maturity the wisdom or the tools to deal with it It's unconscious because we're not aware that it's impacting
our mindset, our biofield and our biochemistry. It's this thing that lives in us, follows us around like a shadow that we don't know is there. And here's the critical part. It's a decision because whether we're aware of it or not, we made the choice to see that event a particular way. Now we can easily go in to the mind, to the subconscious and begin to
practice and this is the thing that people don't understand. We can easily do this. We have tools and techniques that allow us to go into the subconscious and begin to unwind some of this misguided unconscious decision that keeps us stuck in struggle and striving mode. So if you encounter a lion and you get stuck in that state, that's what is happening to a lot of people and it is related to gut function and full metabolic function. We just don't realize it's coming
a story and this is why it's stressful for some and not stressful for others because it's the underlying stories we're telling. And this to me is a profound insight if it's something that you've never heard
Josh Dech - CHN (13:34.652)I love it. Can you explain to me then the difference? So we get a lot of people coming in who are dealing with a lot of chronic stress responses. They're fighting, they're flighty, they're in chronic sympathetic overdrive. This is kind of phase one of the stress response. Whereas we take this and disseminate it down to the rest of the body, there's a book you're probably very familiar with, The Body Keeps the Score, where tissues can physically hold traumas and stressors. Way back in my early 20s, my personal training years,
I was working with a mentor of mine and we were going through myofascial and tissue release. He was telling me a story about a client of his and she was over on the lap, pulled down, mid thirties, doing her lats and she was had her arms up and she'd come down and he was putting her thumbs into the lat muscle, get some knots out just to help her get some activation, open up some of these tissue spots. They were chatting away, having a great time and suddenly she just kind of slows down, gets quiet, stops talking. She drops the weight and just starts bawling.
And what happened, there was a muscle knot in there that when it released, it started flooding back these memories of childhood trauma and sexual abuse and all these things she went through. So it's like this memory was almost stored in a little pod inside this muscle and it got open and it just sent shot straight to the brain. What is happening
@jadeteta (14:47.994)Yes. Yeah. Well, here's the interesting thing. If we look at it just simply from a tissue perspective and we look at it strictly from a biochemical perspective, we don't know what's happening. But as soon as you sort of understand this biofield response and that the mind and is essentially all over the body and being permeated, you can see that a very simple example of this would be being tight in one area, let's say, while the trauma is going
and that area gets stored there. Let me give you an example from my life actually. So I was on a hiking trip in the Grand Canyon and I had misprepared. Anyway, long story short, I had a near -death experience, almost went into heat exhaustion. They had to basically pull me out of the Grand Canyon so that I didn't go into heat exhaustion. About two months after that, I'm walking around Chicago in a
summer day, sunbeating down on me, I'm starting to sweat, I'm moving my body in the same way that I was moving before and boom, the memory comes back and my body reacts as if I'm dying. This is where these panic attacks come from. So now if you've ever had a panic attack, now think about this just localized to a particular area of the body. It can hit you in the gut, it can hit you in the... So it is a localized panic attack and it comes from the body remembering
holding itself in a particular way during that event. And so anyone who's ever had a panic attack can understand a little bit about what's happening here. Just think of this as a micro panic attack at the tissue level as the tissue opens up or you do something to it. And by the way, this is exactly what I'm talking about here. You can think of this almost like a story stuck in that tissue. And when that tissue is released or manipulated in a particular way,
The story that that tissue holds is released and that also releases it into the mind as well. And so we have this back and forth sort of dualistic thing where the body can trigger memories and emotions and emotions can trigger and emotions and memories can trigger the body. And so these two things aren't separate. We know this, we use terms like mind, body reactions and things like that, but we don't always get to see it unless you're in the clinical world and working with the stuff. Talk to any...
@jadeteta (17:08.946)massage therapist or anything like that and you will see they see this stuff all the time and speaking of the gut one of the things I learned in medical school was a visceral manipulation so manipulating the viscera the stomach of the intestines and doing stomach massages and things like that and you would often have people emote or have emotional responses or tighten up in certain areas and you'll see this dual emotional response related to these holding patterns and I think the gut
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because it's so innervated, right? You got the brain and the gut, these two hubs of nervous system tissue. You also have, if we're gonna go into the esoteric world, which the chakra system, which now science has proven chakras exist. We have several studies showing that they do. We've got three chakras sitting right along that axis that essentially are controlling or feeding energetics into the gut. And so this is partly how I think this happens. And I'll walk...
you all through just briefly the steps. Stress in and of itself is not necessarily the problem. Stress that you can't respond to or is too intense or prolonged is the problem because short -term stress that you can actually handle leads to strength. So we have stress into strength or resilience. However, if it continues, you go from stress to striving. And if it continues, you go from striving to struggle.
And if it continues or is super intense all at once, you go from struggle into shock. And so what ends up happening is a lot of people are stuck in their gut, stuck in their body because they're stuck in their energetic biofield in striving struggle or shock. And that then creates this dysfunction. Now, can we deal with this through supplements and dietary changes and things like that? Yes, but it is not nearly as effective as
doing the work in the mindset realm, reprogramming the nervous system and more importantly reprogramming the stories that we told, these misguided unconscious decisions that get stuck in our cellular tissue because they're stuck in our energetic emotional
Josh Dech - CHN (19:22.381)This is amazing and it actually adds a lot of body, so to speak, to a lot of other instances of stories I've heard. We talk about how these emotions translate, how the body adapts. You're talking about how memories and stories get stored in areas of the body. We can emote through these things as they release certain energetic biochemical reactions. So going back, I've heard many stories of people getting organ transplants, for example, and taking on personality traits of others. There was a father who I suppose...
Story that I'd read about that he got into a car accident. He was very fatally injured He ended up getting a heart transplant, but the fella he got the heart transplant from was quite the philanderer So he went from this loving nuclear family faithful husband over a couple of years started to develop more of these tendencies There was another one of a mother she got forget what it was I don't know it was a kidney or part of a liver something that she had gotten from a fella Who was more the evil Knievel type like to take risks a big motorcycle driver. He actually died in a motorcycle accident
And within a few months or years of her getting this organ now transplanted, she started to develop more these risk -taking dangerous behaviors that she had never taken before. And we see this all the time. And the level of adaptation, we look at tissues and the body is so mechanical, but there was a recent story that came out. There was a woman down in India or Nepal. She had gotten two arm transplants, petite lady. She got two arm transplants from a man, bigger guy. So clearly they're big, large, long bones, hairy, thick hands.
But over the years, the hands became more feminized. They actually became more slender and delicate and looked like large female hands, but no longer like hairy knuckled man hands like you and I've got. And it's incredible, the adaptation on these levels. And so when you're talking about this stuff, you're talking about your experience going through and experiencing this second heat stroke almost from just being in a hot day.
Is this the translation that you put into MUD, these misguided unconscious decisions? Is that what that is or am I misinterpreting?
@jadeteta (21:20.612)No, it 1000 % is and what I'm saying is these misguided unconscious decisions that we have keep us stuck in the mud of repeated patterns, recurrent obstacles, stuck emotions in our lives, but also can get stuck in our physiology as well. And so now we have to, once we start to understand this, which by the way, you know, you and I are, you know, and I've had you on my podcast as well. And so one of the things
Did I lose you, Josh?
@jadeteta (22:19.394)don't know if you're on, Josh. I don't think you are. I you got knocked off. So I'm just going to wait a sec to see if you come back on.
Josh Dech - CHN (24:51.855)Gotcha
Josh Dech - CHN (24:57.979)Test test.
Josh Dech - CHN (25:09.777)Can you hear me okay, Jade?
@jadeteta (25:18.263)So Josh, I don't know if you can hear me, but I don't see you. I just see black.
@jadeteta (25:35.509)How are you brother? I don't know what happened. I got you, yeah. Yeah, you just went, like you just disappeared from me. So I was like, he must have lost function. I don't know what that is. I will tell you one thing. No, I had been playing around with Riverside all day today, trying to do live stream settings. So I wonder if that, I wonder if that was it.
Josh Dech - CHN (25:37.742)Can hear me now? Weird, yeah, cause yours went black, then mine went black. We're back.
Josh Dech - CHN (25:56.569)Yeah.
I wonder if it's on the Riverside side. No problem. Well, I got us on a secondary recording here, so that'll be okay. Do remember where you left off? I got some notes.
It's all right. We just talked about mud, your experience getting stuck inside of tissues and sort of how that all comes to be. And we were talking about the unconscious choices or decisions of that manifestation when you went to Chicago.
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@jadeteta (26:24.433)Okay, yeah, so.
Here's the thing with these misguided unconscious decisions. They can get stuck in our body and they can also get stuck in sort of more of our brain, the stories we tell. We absolutely can unwind these and when we do, we will oftentimes notice changes in the tissue and emotions coming from those tissues. Let me give you an example. So one of the tools that we use to unwind these misguided unconscious decisions is breath work. So breath
many different types, holotropic breath work, Kundalini breath work, but I use basically a type of breath work that I call breath enhanced emotional processing. So it's very fast breaths focusing on the inhale, longer inhale, shorter exhales that put you in more of a sympathetic dominant state for in a controlled way.
And what ends up happening is during this breath enhanced emotional processing, we can prompt you, and what I'll do is prompt the individual to go back to a memory, go back to emotion, or go back to a feeling in the body. And what will happen in this process as they are breathing and focusing on where these feelings are in the body, you'll oftentimes find they're most often gonna be in the gut, interestingly enough.
But once we do that and they begin to emote, they will oftentimes see imagery, symbolism, feeling. Here's the thing to understand, the subconscious mind does not think in logic and linearity. It is more symbolism, it is more feeling, it is more metaphor. And so during these breath work processes, this is one technique, not the only technique, you will oftentimes see
@jadeteta (28:15.785)individuals begin to feel discomfort in certain areas of the body. And instead of avoiding that and trying to distract themselves, if they go into it, we have them name the emotion, we have them, you know, almost dialogue with the emotion as if it is a best friend that's trying to give them information. And when they do this, they will oftentimes have flashback to memories. They will oftentimes see the pain or dysfunction in that area move to other parts of the air of their body and or dissolve.
And what oftentimes happening is as soon as we finish that breath work, we do the next piece that also gets after this mud, is exposure therapies. There's been a lot of research with something called written exposure therapy for post -traumatic stress disorder. This is a technique that essentially goes back to these uncomfortable feelings, these traumatic events or these memories, and essentially writes about what happened, what it felt like, and then writes into the future of the lessons that these emotions gave you. And what oftentimes happens
is people begin to understand their symptoms and their management begins to, their management of their symptoms begins to change. For example, I've seen stark differences in HRVs pre and post that last. I have seen mood shifts pre and post some of these treatments that last far beyond the treatments. I have seen conditions like irritable bowel syndrome and other things that last long, that sort of wrap themselves up or...
essentially become, you know, lack of a diagnosis, cure is a bad word, but they're essentially cured for lack of a better term, simply from working on these emotional states. And of course the treatments that a lot of people, you and I know in this field use, supplements, drugs, other kinds of things, vagus nerve stimulation, all that kind of stuff, start to work better. So this gives you an idea about the mindset aspect of this and different things that we can do. There's other tools too, psychedelics,
you know, all the rage nowadays, those things can be useful as well. I just don't like to use those kind of big force guns because to me, I like to be more pinpoint in what we're actually dealing with. So to me, this gets at the mud, the misguided unconscious decision stories in the brain, and also the corresponding stuck sensations in the body, including in the gut. And this begins to theoretically adjust the biofield, free up the energetics in that area.
@jadeteta (30:41.57)and begin to just like you might remove a block or a clot to increase blood flow, you're basically removing energetic blocks and essentially improving function that
Josh Dech - CHN (30:55.432)You know, there's a lot of people out there who will go through things like acupuncture, which is neurological, energetic, meridian lines. And at the same time, going biofields and energy and frequency is all BS. I know because I was one of those people. And so I self -contradicted. And then you go through this whole thing where, you know, 92 % of our disease manifestations have a stress route to them. And there's a lot of different ideology behind
And again, I was also one of those people who went, no, I'm not stressed. I'm super chill. I'm pretty hippie dippy. You get me coming into a traffic jam like, well, we're taking the scenic route. well, and somebody else freaks out. You know, something bad happens. And I'm like, well, this is just like, don't attach an emotion to it, but I can still identify knowing what I know now through my experiences are still stress manifestations. So what do we say in your experience and your practice to these people who might be listening going, okay, well, I love the first half. I'm interested in the energy and the biofields and
the mud, but I don't have stress. You're talking about stress and stress manifestations. That's not
@jadeteta (31:57.086)Yeah, well, we all have coping mechanisms and a lot of the sort hippie dippy chill vibe that a lot of us have from people pleasing to I'm chill to also the reactions that we think are not great, like, you know, being hyper reactive and things like that. All of these are different.
coping mechanisms. And here's the thing, we all have times in our lives and in our childhood especially where we encountered events that we did not have the knowledge, wisdom, know -how, tools to deal with. This is where this stuff comes from and it doesn't have to lead to feelings of angst and anxiety all of the time. In fact, some of the individuals who are most gonna benefit most from these things will
relate to having any dysfunctions at all, but what they will see and how we will know it's there is repeated patterns, recurrent obstacles, and stuck emotions that come up again and again. So let's just say they're chill most of the time, but whatever happens in their romantic relationships,
this they get angsty or they get avoidant or they get overly anxiously attached. This is pointing back to mud. You can also see this show up in things like finances and stories are because finance is so related to safety and security. And this is a key need of the child that we develop as children. So individuals who run into the financial issues again and again, this would be like someone who wins the lottery, right? But can't keep the money and goes poor. Someone who gets a new job, more money, but ends up having the same money in their bank account.
This is how we know. You also see it in health and fitness. The same people trying the same diets, different diets. They lose the weight, they gain it back. All of this is pointing to the fact that your habits and behaviors are not enough. Well, guess where habits and behaviors come out of? They come out of identity. And guess what forms identity? Beliefs, definitions, and stories. And guess what forms those? A lot of this misguided, unconscious decision. So it doesn't have to be something
@jadeteta (33:59.681)you feel in your body or your head as stress throughout your whole life, it also can show up, and I think it shows up mostly with repeated patterns, stuck emotions, recurrent obstacles out in the world in which we're living. And then you can begin to correspond that with certain issues. For example, what I have noticed in my clinical pride is that in an inordinate amount of these individuals that are most, you know, and they tend to be the people pleaser types, they tend to be the types
don't seem to be like I'm not stressed and they'll say that they seem to be the ones who get the autoimmune conditions or they seem to be the ones who are avoiding. There's several different ways that we can deal with emotional wounds, right? We can blame, we can blame, we can whimper, we can whine. We can distract and deny. We also can hurt other people, but what we're talking about right now is we're talking about the distract and deny people. They've developed good quality coping mechanisms that look
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good in the outside world, but distracting and denying isn't getting to the issue any more than blaming and complaining and whimpering and whining is. And that's how I explain it. So we all have it. It just depends on how much it's influencing our health.
Josh Dech - CHN (35:12.817)All right, so all the listeners, click the link in the show notes for your free link to get your own mirror so you can self -reflect. So we got mud. We go through and identify these misguided, unconscious decisions that we make, whether it's, again, you say very unconscious, it's on a tissue level, on a somatic level, nervous system, you have these fight, flight, freeze, and fawn reactions, you have these different coping mechanisms, and then you go through, your acronym was BEEP. It was a bioelectric emotional process, was that it? Breath enhanced.
@jadeteta (35:38.75)So breath enhanced emotional process. So what we're doing is we're using the breath. What we're doing is we're using the breath to essentially prompt the nervous system to release and expose these memories.
Josh Dech - CHN (35:42.501)I made up two words on my own.
@jadeteta (35:53.978)these emotions, these uncomfortable feelings. And so one of things that people may not know, but breath is one of the fastest ways that we can alter our consciousness. If we slow down our breathing and enhance the exhalations, we can put ourselves into very calming states. If we speed up and focus on our inhalations, we can put ourselves in altered states of consciousness, similar to being on a psychedelic. And so this is essentially what we're doing. We're trying to alter the consciousness in a way that allows
us to have access to some of these unconscious processing. And one of the things, and I know you'll relate to this as well, Josh, but one of the things that I learned in medical, so one of the first principles we learn is the body has natural healing capability. We cut our finger, we know, right? All we have to do is keep it clean. The body's going to heal it itself. Same thing here. When we essentially clean our bioenergetics, which to me, I'm thinking about this as
The beep, the breath is cleansing. Also written exposure therapy has an interesting acronym, WET. It's like cleansing us off. So in a sense, when we cleanse our energetic system in this way, it knows what to do. And this is why you'll oftentimes find people being like, why am I emoting this way? I felt like I wanted to cry. I felt like I wanted to have this memory or something. And by the way,
This happens a lot of times when you're in these altered states of consciousness. If you've ever been in a movie or watching a show or something like that, and you don't tend to cry and get too upset about other things most of the time, but you're watching a commercial and all of a sudden you get emotional over a commercial or something like that, it's largely because you're in an altered state of consciousness. Your unconsciousness is more at the prime there and basically you're being triggered to release that. So all we're doing is inducing that state through breath work and journaling. And then we can have access to some of these unconscious processes.
that are going on in the body and the brain.
Josh Dech - CHN (37:52.561)Wow. So we've gone through mud, we went through beep, we went through wet. You have your misguided unconscious decisions that we can start to identify in some way, shape or form. We do your breath enhanced emotional processes where you do this somatic breath work and very deliberate breath patterning. And then we use wet, which is your written exposure therapy to bring some of these to the surface. Is the next stage from there then conscious processing? Is it talk therapy? Is it going and breaking stuff? Like what does that look like or is that individualized?
@jadeteta (38:20.552)Yeah, so, you know, there's really a three -step process here. It's first rewrite the misguided unconscious decision. So we write the story. Second is rewire the nervous system, right? So this is very much what most people are doing gut stuff. They know all about this. We've taken care of both of those stages, by the way, using breath enhanced emotional processing, using journaling. We also can use vagus nerve stimulation and other things. But the final piece is now we retrain the brain and you retrain the brain through exposure through real exposure therapy.
what I would call be it till you see it or as if principle. Now what essentially that means is we could put you in meditative states that put you in feelings of love and feelings of gratitude and appreciation and fulfillment and joy. So we'll use visualization meditation and then we will actually also use
What we would call exposure therapy. So I actually will give my patients real -world activities to do where they're actually putting themselves in stressful states usually around you know quote the toxic people in their lives and the people that they have difficulty with some of the times these people that at the time were you know, maybe partly responsible for some of the things that they seem as Traumatic in their life and this can be done through again journaling if you can't if you don't have access to the person or
want to have access to the person for whatever reason, but it also can be actually going out in the real world and taking on particular tasks. Like for example, I worked with a client last week that essentially we had been working on issues around the way she was raised with her parents. Now she's a mid -twentysome young woman
struggles with her parents and suffered through her parents dysfunction. And as we've been processing this, she has been releasing and shedding a lot of this misguided unconscious decision and her nervous system is getting different. So what she said to me last week is she said, this is really interesting Jade, I was talking to my mom and normally I'm completely triggered and I'll trigger and I'll react to what she says. And this time I didn't react at all. I just sort of watched him. It's really interesting to see that the trigger wasn't there.
@jadeteta (40:35.049)the stage where I start saying, okay, now we're gonna start talking to your mom more, and we're gonna see if we can get you triggered. We're gonna see if you can actually talk to her more and lean into that more. And so now the process becomes interacting with her mother and father in a different way, almost doing like a psychological black ops experiment where her parents don't know what she's doing, but she is subtly changing the relationship that they have by her showing up different.
And so now she practices that. So now we've rewritten the mud, we've rewired the nervous system, and now we're retraining the brain. And all of this together allows her to really what it is, Josh, it's identity shifting. It's restructuring her identity. And by the way, my theory is...
When you do this, the biofield necessarily changes because we are essentially just frequency. And when that frequency changes like a tuning fork, you go from 430 hertz, let's say to 500 hertz. And that is a different reality. It's a different reality for your tissues. It's a different reality for your gut. It's a different reality for your nervous system. And now your biochemistry.
begins to change as well. And by the way, I mean, not to get too technical here, but we do know, we do have a pretty good theory about how this is happening from biofield to biochemistry. In the middle there is structured water, this sort of water layer that is unique to the body. And if you've ever seen water sitting on top of a speaker and you put sound through and you can see the shapes that that water makes, that's what's happening. Think about all of a sudden, now what you're doing is you're feeling
you put your feeling throughout your body, this water vibrates, it's almost like music for the water and it changes its shape and that changes all the physiology that that water is in contact with. And so what we believe is happening here is biofield to biochemistry, that translation happens through the structured water layer that we are now understanding is a fourth phase of water, right? That is unique to biological systems and that water can essentially hold memory, hold frequency and pass that frequency
@jadeteta (42:39.098)So this is partly what is going on here. And I know it's brand new stuff and it's the first time someone's heard it. It sounds completely woo woo and crazy, but this is where people are going and getting fantastic results when the constant supplements, constant drugs and constant other stuff is not working. And let's face it, there's an awful lot of people out there like that who are taking bucket loads of supplements and doing all the protocols.
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and not seeing the change. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. What I'm saying is there is a layer deeper that can make this stuff stick and get
Josh Dech - CHN (43:16.274)So mean theoretically you could be doing this with just about anything you could do it with any stress obviously triggers and I use the word trigger loosely there's obviously PTSD triggers then there's triggers with just people you don't like you see somebody don't like you just get angry it might not be lashing out or throwing things or you know wanting to fight somebody but it's a trigger it's it's something that instigates an emotional response you could theoretically apply this to likes dislikes I'm not a morning person you might be soon is that
@jadeteta (43:44.374)That's exactly right. The way to think about it in this third phase of things is think about it. The best way to think about it is when you dress up in the morning, you pick out your clothes, right? You know, I typically have a uniform, right? I usually wear a V -neck t -shirt, Good Life t -shirt and some Mavi jeans. It's pretty much every day. Got like Good Life t -shirt and Mavi jeans I put on every day. And this is what people do with their thoughts and their feelings. They're essentially getting dressed in a thought wardrobe and in a feeling wardrobe.
every single day and they're not aware that they're bathing their biochemistry in that thought wardrobe and in that feeling wardrobe because they're bathing that water layer in that wardrobe and that is communicating to the cells and so change that wardrobe you change the physiological state of the
Josh Dech - CHN (44:30.117)It's amazing, absolutely amazing. So we have this hardware is our physical brain, our physical body. It is what it is. It's constantly degrading or growing over time. We can always update at any point in time with some effort our own software, our thoughts, our processes, our emotions, our inputs, our outputs, our biofields. All these things can constantly be updated or upgraded how we desire to, if we are willing to put in the work to do so.
@jadeteta (44:56.521)Yeah, and the way to think about it is it goes both directions, right? So think here you are in the middle on one side is your physical choices and reactions and the brain watches those choices and reactions and goes, Josh is making these choices and reactions. Jade's making these choices and these actions. And so here's how we respond biochemically. Now on the other side.
Not only are we having actions and choices, but we are having thoughts and feelings. And those thoughts and feelings are also permeating from the other side and essentially saying, okay, here's who I am. And so the brain goes, here are my choices and reactions. Here are my thoughts and feelings. This is my identity. This is my reality. Now, before you can see or before you can think different, feel different, choose different and act different, you have to see differently. So what we're doing is we're pulling out and going, let's allow the nervous system
to see itself differently. So now it's easier to make the choices, take the actions, have the thoughts and the feelings. And this begins to make the difference. And now all of a sudden, maybe the berberine works, the glutamine works, the probiotic begins to work because it's working in a different cellular sort of milieu, if that makes sense.
Josh Dech - CHN (46:09.324)Hmm. I'll throw a theory at you then, just ask your opinion. You get somebody who comes in, I should say a theoretical, hypothetical. You get somebody who comes in and they definitely have a lot of this emotional stuff and it's been causing their gut issues. They go through mud, they go through the breath enhanced emotional processing and they do the written exposure therapy and they do all this. They're still having some issues with their GI system. Obviously there's now residual damage. There's gonna be the microbial issues, the immune dropping, maybe it brought parasites in.
Maybe there's nutrient deficiencies and they're managing all this, but there's something still just feels stuck. Is this now a good idea to go into physical tissue manipulation through massage or osteo or acupuncture? Is that the next step you would look
@jadeteta (46:52.715)Yeah, think so. think when you look at this, don't think it's not one, what I'm talking about is not one standalone treatment. have to put in the nutrients, right? The body needs certain things to build those tissues back. And yes, and then I think there's actually a couple things we can do. Light, frequency through music.
tissue manipulations and things like that. And also, of course, you know, we have individuals who do, you know, essentially biofield work. A lot of times people would call this reiki or acupuncture or qigong or any of these kinds of things. And so, yes, physical manipulation. Yes, energetic manipulation. Yes, using things like music and light. And this is why we're seeing things like red light therapy applied to the gut can be beneficial. We can see red light therapy applied to certain tissues
be beneficial. We can see the use of frequencies now. This is why acupuncture can be so powerful. It's also why we will see. And again, people may not realize this, but there's actual research in the research paper showing things like, know, reiki practitioners can decrease inflammation, can cause decreased symptomology in individuals with
many different things from joint pain to gut dysfunction, et cetera. So we have a lot of other tools. I also think, you you and I were talking about this idea right before we popped on of, you know, of myofascial stuff and body pains and things like that. And even just adjusting the myofascial system, because they believe these individuals who are doing the research in quantum metabolism or quantum biology believes the fascia in particular.
is holding an awful lot of this information because it is also holding this water layer. And also in the acupuncture research, this is partly where the meridians they think are coming from. It's closely related to these fascial adhesions and these areas in these acupuncture points where the fascial converge. And so there's many, many other tools that we can use. But I think the point of this that we're really getting to is this idea that looking beyond simply
@jadeteta (49:03.637)the current things that people are doing, which is, me work out, let me change my diet, let me take a bunch of supplements and do a bunch of gut protocols. What I would say is, yes, all that's great. Nothing at all wrong with that. But also if you're not getting better, what you need to understand is that this is in the nervous system and more importantly, it's in the bio field. And thoughts and feelings and these misguided, unconscious decisions and all of this stuff underneath.
needs to be addressed. We are a holistic system. We cannot just reduce ourselves to pure
Josh Dech - CHN (49:41.05)I want to throw one more question at you then because you mentioned sound it's something I've been exploring a lot more recently as well with all these bio fields and energetics and the quantum physics and mechanics I'm looking at quantum entanglement how these things are all tied and connected it's just blowing my mind for the listeners we will get there I promise. Do you have any experience with the rife machine?
@jadeteta (50:00.001)I do
Josh Dech - CHN (50:02.063)Bummer, another time then.
@jadeteta (50:03.123)Yeah, another time. Yeah, yeah. I will tell you this on sound though, which is pretty amazing. There's like, you know, for example, humming. Something incredibly simple that we can do. This will dramatically impact vagus nerve stimulation and calm the nervous system down. It also has impacts on nitric oxide and immune function. So just humming...
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ourselves and having these energetic frequencies kind of go into our system through our own, you know, emoting of our voice. We can impact individuals. We also know, for example, recent studies on 432 Hertz, people with ADHD, when they listen to beehives and things like this, which are at like the 432 Hertz, they calm down. If you've ever walked and just go on Spotify or something and put a 432 Hertz playlist and go walk out in nature,
and see what happens to all the sounds. Bird sounds coming through sound different, everything sounds more relaxing. This is to me gonna be a big part of the future of what we do. But unfortunately, and I know this is old hat to you too, people like you and me, these are not necessarily our first fields of study, but because we are holistic, open -minded individuals who are wanting to get people results, we're always digging, which means now we have to learn.
quantum physics and we have to learn you know some of this stuff on cephalgeal frequencies and binaural beats and all this other stuff and so like you said to your listeners there's a lot more to come a lot of what we're talking about now we're gonna be like we were slightly wrong about that here's you know where we've adjusted but this to me is where things are going and of course you what you're seeing is and I'll say this and you know maybe as we begin to wrap it up Josh and you can tell me what you think about this but
The listeners may be disappointed to hear me say this, but from my perspective as a functional medicine practitioner, I have to say, most of the time, I went into functional medicine because traditional medicine was failing in chronic disease a lot. And functional medicine does a much better job of it, but I still don't think it does a great job. And that is disappointing to a lot of people. In other words, the success rates are pretty low in medicine in general, which to me means we're missing something.
@jadeteta (52:23.428)pretty big and important. And I don't know if this is it, but I can tell you in terms of the results that I'm getting, my results are much, much better when I'm incorporating these types of techniques. I mean, much, much better. So whether this is the end of it or just the beginning, and I suspect it's just the tip of the iceberg in this world of what we might want to call quantum metabolism, this is the direction that I think a lot of people need.
to go and need to
Josh Dech - CHN (52:54.689)Very exciting stuff, very exciting future. I have an interview coming up, we're scheduling in with a fellow named John Stuart Reed who invented the SimaScope and he's gonna be talking with us about the song of cancers and the song of sickness and how they actually measure these sound waves and frequencies from diseases and illnesses and they can see all this stuff. It's really amazing, so we will dive into this further on a later date, but for those of you who don't wanna spend...
$25 ,000 on a SimaScope or whatever they may cost, they wanna meet with you, Jade. How are they gonna do that? Where can they find you and reach you?
@jadeteta (53:27.934)Yeah, well, I appreciate you having me, Josh. You all can get me at jade .tita on all social media platforms. Check out my websites jade .tita .com and nextlevelhuman .com. And I have my own podcast called the Next Level Human podcast, which Josh was on as well. And so, yeah, you can find me all there. And Josh, thanks for your work. I appreciate you very much, my friend.
Josh Dech - CHN (53:50.581)It's always a pleasure, Jade. Before we wrap this thing up and press the end button here, is there any final last words you'd to leave our listeners with or something we haven't talked about or mentioned that you'd like to drop as a knowledge
@jadeteta (54:01.393)You know, all I would say is that from my perspective, we humans, right, we want more than anything else to matter and to make a difference in the world. And so this stuff that we're talking about, these misguided, unconscious decisions, yes, we're talking about it from the gut health perspective, but this is also how you begin to unravel your purpose. And to me, purpose is the number one thing, the number one protector against age, against, you know,
dysfunction and disease and depression, its purpose. And we're living with these erroneous stories about our worthiness, about our safety, about our security, about our acceptance and belonging. When you unravel these things, you're not just doing better for your physical health, you're actually freeing yourself up to live a very purposeful, fulfilled life, because you get to leave all that baggage behind. That's the final thing I would say.
Josh Dech - CHN (54:56.71)It's a beautiful way to wrap it up. couldn't have asked for a better ending, start or middle, quite frankly. Always a delight talking with you, Jay. Thanks so much for being here and dropping these huge, huge knowledge bombs. I've got a lot of digging and mirror purchasing to do, so thank you.
@jadeteta (55:10.62)Appreciate you, my friend.
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