In today's conversation Ken and Rob are joined by Vivian Brocato from Southern California where she started and heads up Punx & Monx, a church for those on the fringes of society.
Listen in as Vivian shares her experiences of loving folks who live in the margins in San Diego county, and her passion for the arts. Vivian also discusses her commitment to the monastic lifestyle, cultivating silence, solitude, retreats as well as service to those impoverished in various mental, physical, spiritual and emotional ways.
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