Sales & Cigars | The Four A’s Needed to Scale Your Business with Nate Tutas | Episode 219

Welcome to Sales & Cigars, the sales podcast where the only smoke we blow is from cigars. On  today’s episode, Walter is joined by returning guest Nate Tutas to explore a concept Nate calls  the "core four." This framework is designed to help entrepreneurs and business owners scale  effectively while avoiding the common pitfall of chasing shiny distractions. The episode is a  candid conversation about strategy, focus, and execution.  

To begin, Nate shares insights from his current packed schedule, including involvement in  multiple masterminds, coaching, and training for high-profile platforms He also discusses a  personal growth goal achieved: traveling with his wife and daughter, and the recent loss of their  Siberian Husky. The conversation then shifts to recommended reading, specifically 38 Letters  from J.D. Rockefeller to His Son, a book that deeply impacted Nate’s perspective on leadership,  values, and legacy. He reflects on Rockefeller's emphasis on responsibility, integrity, and the  value of healthy competition, noting that the oil magnate never took rivalries personally but  instead saw them as opportunities for mutual growth.  

The discussion leads into the idea that these timeless business philosophies are still highly  relevant today. Nate shares the catalyst moment behind creating the Core Four framework—a  system to help entrepreneurs stay focused and scale more effectively. Nate and Walter dive  deeper into the emotional challenges of building a business, especially around the initial “attract”  phase of the Core Four framework. Walter shares his own struggles with consistently drawing in  the right audience, admitting that figuring out the best vehicle to deliver his message has been  frustrating. This discomfort is common and closely tied to the slow, unpredictable nature of  marketing success and can manifest as frustration, tempting entrepreneurs to shift focus  prematurely. Nate reiterates that lasting success requires staying in the discomfort long enough  to complete and refine the system. Whether it’s wealth, health, or relationships, the same  principles apply: stick with the process, resist the urge to start over, and avoid quick fixes. This  mindset shift is essential for mastering the attraction stage and setting up a scalable business.  

Finally, Nate emphasizes the importance of sticking with discomfort in order to grow, sharing  how consistency is key to progress. He introduces his Core Four framework (Attract, Acquire,  Ascend, Automate), explaining that many entrepreneurs struggle because they use too many  strategies in each area. His upcoming program at unlockmv.com will guide participants to focus  on one clear method per area to create a streamlined, effective customer journey. The episode concludes with a reminder that clarity and consistency drive business success, and Nate shares that his content will now primarily live on YouTube for easier access.  

The 4 A’s: Scale your business regardless of your size 

1. Attract 

2. Acquire (information + Purchase) 

3. Ascend (immediate, long term) 

4. Automation

  

Key Episode Points: 

• "Distraction is your enemy." 

• The 4 A's works for Solopreneurs and Large teams. • You have get uncomfortable with the uncomfortable. • Sometimes uncomfortable feels like frustration. • Be careful not to diminish the focus of your teams 

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