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April 26, 2021 41 min

Rick has had a truly fascinating life, helping the Chatham Island Black Robins survive through 9 summers of work there, having a childhood lived in a variety of countries, working on creating a permaculture farm and co-founding Xtreme Zero Waste.  We talk about all that and a lot more in this discussion - shout out to Craig Fisher for connecting us.  If you enjoy this check out more at 



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