June 5, 2025 • 34 mins
Episode 227: What It’s Really Like to Be Sober in a Family of Drinkers
In episode 227 of the Sober Vibes podcast, Courtney Anderesn shares in this powerful and vulnerable episode. She is talking about what it really feels like to get sober in a family where alcohol is the norm. From emotional triggers to unspoken resentment, this episode validates the often-invisible experience of being the first one to break the cycle.
Whether you’ve been labeled “too sensitive,” felt like the family scapegoat, or noticed your healing making others uncomfortable, this episode is for you.
What you will learn in this episode:
- Why sobriety can feel lonelier in your own family than anywhere else
- How and why sober people become the emotional mirror (and often, the scapegoat)
- The grief and strength that come with breaking generational patterns
- 5 grounding truths and boundaries you can hold as you stay sober around drinkers
- Family members may accuse you of being judgmental or "thinking you're better than them" before you've even said anything
This is not an episode about tips and tricks.
It’s about validation, resilience, and reclaiming your peace even when no one claps for it.
Thank you for listening, and hope it helps you today!
Listen now and come back to this one anytime you need to feel less alone.
Resources Mentioned:
Thank you for listening! Help the show by Rating, Reviewing, and/or Subscribing to the Sober Vibes Podcast.
Connect w/ Courtney:
Instagram
Join the Sobriety Circle
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Courtney Andersen (00:31):
Hey, welcome back to the Sober Bives podcast.
I am your host and sober coach,courtney Anderson, and your
go-to guide of living a kick-asslife without alcohol.
You are listening to episode227, and I got a good one today
because we are going to talkabout what it's really like to
be sober in a family of drinkers.
This one I've been wanting todo for quite some time because
(00:55):
this, again, is not sharedenough about more of family
dynamics, especially, you know,when there's when the culture is
drinking and you're in it, youquit drinking and you start your
eyes, start opening up to yourfamily dynamics.
(01:15):
And I'm not here again, this is.
I'm not here to tell youanything that your family's
shitty because they drink,because that's not the case.
Okay, everybody has a familydynamic.
Not every family is perfect.
No, family is perfect, andwhether that is with alcohol in
it or without, there is not.
(01:37):
Family is very hard.
Family can be.
Family is amazing, right?
You know, if you're close tothem and if you like them.
And then there's some reallyshitty family.
You could come from some reallyshitty people and that is the
reality.
And I think people don't wantto talk about this.
It's because, when I really tryreally, really hard to talk
(02:00):
about this from my perspectivewithout being like this person
did this with pointing fingers.
I don't ever want to come fromthat place, but this is my truth
and this is what I wanted toshare with you, because for so
many who quit, it's like familyis a very big trigger for them,
because they came from a familyof drinkers and then a lot of it
(02:24):
too.
It's like if you're the one whoended up having quote unquote
the problem, even thougheverybody else has their own
relationship with alcohol orwith drugs, whatever it may be,
but we're talking about alcoholhere.
So use this conversation todaywith insert, whatever it is
that's in there, especially, too, if you go back to the episode
(02:47):
that I talked about with Margiea couple episodes ago about
being an adult child of analcoholic and dysfunction.
So this just ties intodysfunction, because when there
are issues like that, there isdysfunction.
Even, too, if you grew up witha parent with a mental health
issue, there is dysfunction inthat.
(03:07):
So I hope this episode helpsyou today.
This is something that Isuffered with for years, because
I was the first one to stopsomething in my family,
(03:29):
something in my family, and atpoints it did get lonely, right.
So this is the side of sobrietythat, like I said, does not get
talked about enough, because Ithink people are afraid if they
talk about it then they feellike they're carrying other
people's secrets in and it justisn't the case when it's just
from your truth and you canstand by that because nobody can
take away your perception of it, right, and you can talk about
this in a healthy way.
(03:51):
But what happens when yourhealing makes other people
uncomfortable Because it's goingto?
So if you've been feelinglonely, dismissed, blamed,
misunderstood by your familysince getting sober, this is
definitely the space for you tofeel seen.
Okay.
So let's talk about it again.
You're not alone.
(04:12):
This is just a process of yourjourney.
So there is an isolation thatnobody warns you about.
When you get sober in a familyof drinkers, you don't just lose
alcohol, you lose that sense ofbelonging in that family.
You lose that shared thing thatmade the dysfunction feel
(04:32):
fucking normal Bonding over wine, joking about hangovers, right,
like I can't tell you how manytimes if I showed up hungover
somewhere, it would get laughedabout Pouring a drink.
When things got tense in thefamily, that was the normal.
And now you have stoppeddrinking and you're like what
the fuck is going on, becauseyour eyes are opening, it can be
(04:55):
feel it's very isolating Bottomline.
It's isolating because it'slike you have to now cut this
cord from your family,especially if you're very
involved with your family.
Now you might be listening andbe like I don't have that
relationship with your familyand that's fine, and maybe this
episode isn't for you and thatis okay too.
But if you want to learn more,keep on trucking through this
(05:19):
episode so you might startnoticing how often drinking is
the glue that holds the wholefamily together.
It's almost like drinking isanother, is like the member of
the family Best way I can sayfor drinking this.
You know how, on Sex and theCity in New York is like the
(05:39):
heart, like truly New York isalmost like the heart of that
show and it's like anothercharacter in itself.
This is how alcohol is in a lotof family dynamics.
So you might start feeling leftout.
You might even feel punished.
You might not be invited tothings anymore because now
you're saying no to drinking,right, and you're probably
(06:03):
questioning whether you're theone being dramatic, or or or do
I really have a problem?
Because my brother and mysister and my mama and my dada
right, like they can all drink.
You can.
You can clearly tell I have athree and a half year old by my
verbiage with mama and dada, butI have to say, starting to
(06:26):
switch to calling us mommy anddaddy, so I'm going to have to
go with that too.
That was a side note about mythree and a half year old the
dictator.
So the answer is about thedramatics.
You're not.
And the answer is about like,did I not have a problem?
And I'm going to say the fuck,you did Okay, because you are
(06:46):
looking at something where it'slike they make it look like it's
normal, because maybe perhapsyour brother doesn't fucking
throw patio furniture like youwhen he's been drinking.
So then you were the focus ofthis right.
So then it became where you werethe focus, because when you
(07:07):
drank you acted out in a way andagain, it is not your fault,
because alcohol is an extremelytoxic substance, like the shit I
would do when I was drinking.
Man, oh man, I never felt thatway sober.
Do you think I was giving deaththreats to people when I was
sober?
The answer is no, but when Ihad been drinking and in a
(07:29):
blackout, I was tellingmotherfuckers everywhere I was
going to kill them.
Okay, we can laugh about this.
Now.
I find it funny now, at thetime I did not.
Years of therapy and working onmyself and my trauma response
of just laughing about thingshas worked, but that's what I'm
(07:51):
saying.
So please don't shame yourself.
Okay, but this is the realitywhen it comes into play with
family dynamics, especially, too, when drinking was like the
thing you guys did, right?
So again, you're not beingdramatic, you're just now seeing
things clearly.
And with that type of claritycomes grief.
(08:14):
I stand by it.
You have to grieve your olddrinking self.
There is a part of this processwhen you get sober, it might
not hit you those first eightweeks, it might not hit you
those first six months.
It might hit you a year or twodown the road.
For some, everybody's on theirown pathway, but grief waits for
(08:35):
nobody and it's going to comeup.
And then this is another layerof it, especially of where you
came from of like, oh wow, nowI'm going to have to figure out
what the relationship with myfamily looks like.
So you do have to grieve that.
So why do you now become thescapegoat, okay, and this is
(08:58):
another thing that happens.
You are becoming the mirror andnot everyone likes what they
see, right, okay, and I'm noteven talking about like they can
be very supportive of you andwant this for yourself, but
there's still going to be aweird thing Everybody wanting me
sober, everyone was like, greatjob, you know not drinking,
(09:19):
proud of you, but then they werestill doing it, okay, and
everything I talk about in herehas happened to me where there
was stuff I stopped gettinginvited to out of assumption on
these on their end.
So, and it was too like, all ofa sudden it was you know well,
don't judge us because we'redrinking, motherfucker, did I
(09:41):
say anything?
I haven't even spoken yet.
Like, hey, motherfucker, did Isay anything?
I haven't even spoken yet.
You know what I mean.
So you become a mirror to thisfamily dynamic.
You have stopped and nowthey're not really they have to
look at their own actions too,right.
So your choice to stop drinking,especially if no one else is
(10:03):
doing it, it can feelthreatening to people this can
even say true to friends too,okay, and threatening to people
who haven't faced their ownpatterns.
So what do they do?
They project and they blame.
Okay, you might hear thesethings, maybe you've heard.
Well, it's kind of harsh, butit could be a reality.
(10:23):
You think you're better than usnow Don't be uptight.
It's just one drink.
You've changed again from whatI just said of like, don't judge
us, like, I'm fine, mycocktailing's fine, I don't have
a problem with alcohol, right.
The truth of that is is, if anyone of them is saying that to
(10:44):
you, you didn't change.
You stopped drinking, okay, youstopped drinking.
You stopped the madness foryourself, right.
But they haven't allowed to,they haven't caught up with who
you currently are now andallowing that space for you to
shine through because there's athreat, right.
(11:08):
This is what happens, too, withscapegoats.
So in waking up in a systemthat's really built on
suppression, that's really builton we don't talk about this, we
sweep things under the mat.
If mom or dad have fucked upwith alcohol, it's okay, you
know, because they're paying thebills and they're keeping it
(11:29):
together and they're functioningright.
So this is going to be veryuncomfortable for you and it's
going to be very uncomfortablefor them, but that doesn't mean
that you did anything wrong,okay.
So remember that you haven'tdone anything wrong, even though
you will feel like this when Iwent through this with my family
(11:53):
.
Like I said, still to this day,I got it a while ago from
someone in my family about likewe, you know, we don't want to
hear judgment, and it's like Idon't bring this shit up.
I don't, I don't bring thisshit up.
But I listened to you fuckingbring up your goddamn conspiracy
(12:14):
series.
I listened to you insert youropinion about everything.
Do you know what I mean?
Like so that's where it's funnywith people with the dream, but
it's being said because theydon't want to hear it, right,
and it is mildly entertainingand sometimes, at this point, I
just I'm quiet about it becauseit's not a battle I have the
(12:36):
energy for I don't.
Do you know what I have?
Energy for Productiveconversations.
A three and a half year old soprovides podcasts and community
and my coaching clients, myhusband, my friend, like I said,
(12:59):
productive conversations andwhen you're in a family where
there is dysfunction, sometimes,those productive conversations
even though you are a healthierversion of yourself now you want
to have those.
You have to think really longand hard if that person that you
want to have that productiveconversation with is going to be
(13:22):
able to have one with you,because when you have quit
drinking and started breaking agenerational trauma or, I'm
sorry, a generational pattern,right, they might not be ready
to hear that.
So really, when it comes tothis too, you have to protect
(13:46):
your energy at all costs becausealso in these family dynamics,
someone could say some heinousshit to you and, like you know,
with family, where it like cutsdeep because you can cut a bitch
with the shit that you can saywith your siblings or families
and they can do the same thingfor you, and you might not be in
that spot to mentally beprepared to hear that and then
(14:11):
them saying some foul ass shitto you could end up having you
relapse and say what the fuck isthe point?
Because you are taking likethat criticism on from somebody
who is unhealthy.
So that is what I'm saying.
You have to be careful when youare stepping, when you are
(14:31):
stepping away from the family oflike what is it worth for you
to talk about?
Is this a safe space to have aproductive conversation with
somebody?
Because you got to really thinkabout that truly, and that will
be very helpful, okay in this,because it just comes down to,
(14:53):
there's just some people in lifewho think that they can say
whatever the fuck they want andthey have, and they've gotten
away with it for a very longtime but that doesn't mean that
you have to take that on and sitthere and continuing to listen
to it.
That's why boundaries come intoplace too when it comes to this
type of stuff.
Right, like limiting your time,limiting your in-person time,
(15:17):
limiting your phoneconversations, maybe calling
that person when they're not inthe drinking hour.
Maybe you call that person inthe morning time and not do it
at nighttime.
Right?
Maybe you ask them to come overto your house because it's an
alcohol-free space, and maybeyou just now do like a brunch.
There is boundaries that youcan put within your family
(15:41):
dynamic to still be able to havea relationship with them as a
non-drinker, right?
If you want that, you might belistening to this episode and be
like fuck my family and likedeuces to you If that is the
decision you have.
But this really is about theisolating feeling that comes
(16:10):
with when you no longer drinkand you think something is a
certain type of way, and thenit's not, because now you're
sober and like even too.
I remember going through it,those first couple of years of
being like, well, I wonder whatthey're doing.
Today, at Sunday, right, likeyou're going to have those
(16:32):
thoughts like, oh, I didn't getincluded in this, right, because
I don't I don't drink.
There's, there is thatloneliness to it and it's like
sometimes you will look againand be like what is wrong with
me?
And the answer is nothing.
Nothing, you are just not aterm and you are just not
(16:53):
subscribing to the toxicity.
And it takes some time todetach from that toxicity and
detach from the family unit youknew and you can build a new
family unit, either like withinyourself and then what that
looks like going forward withthat family unit.
(17:15):
There's a great book.
There's a great book that Ihave mentioned many times in
this podcast.
I actually just finishedreading it and it's called
Codependent no More and I highlyrecommend that, if you come
from a family of drinkers, thatyou read that book.
(17:37):
Okay, it will blow your mind.
Rip Melody Now, it's the author.
She passed away this year andwe're just so fortunate to have
this great book.
I have just read that book nowfor the fifth time.
You might be like JesusCourtney, but this is what I
know.
This is what I know of fromwhere I sit here and the years
(18:01):
of work I have done with myselfon myself.
There's issues like peoplepleasing, like codependency,
right that you are never trulygoing to heal from.
That they will continue to popup in different times of your
life where maybe a situationarises okay, my dad is currently
(18:23):
going through stage four kidneycancer and I found this out in
February and I, within like thatfirst month, noticed some like
codependent stuff coming out ofme and I was like I need to
revisit this book Because, atthe end of the day, I can only
control myself.
I cannot control everybody andtheir actions, right.
(18:46):
So this is why I read it again,because when I see that stuff
come up, that's where I'm likebreathe, it's an awareness, and
then I can sit there and be like, okay, I need to do what's best
for me, because it's reallyeasy and this is the same thing
with drinking too it's very easyto go back to default ways of
(19:10):
thinking, especially when thatwas fucking instilled in you for
so long.
Same thing with the drinkingwhere it's.
Sometimes you will just catchyourself being like it's easier
just to drink.
Okay, it's easier just to havea drink and deal with this in
life.
That has come from the years ofwhatever was instilled in you
(19:30):
and even in your activerelationship with alcohol and
your addictions, of how youcoped okay.
So these like inner things, ofwhat makes us be like I say like
people pleasing andcodependency where you you I
don't want to say it's a day today, constant thing through the
evolution of your sobriety, Ifyou, if these ring true with you
(19:53):
, but it's something you got towork on.
It truly is.
It's something you got to workon from time to time with stuff
comes up.
So if you come from a drinkingfamily, read that book, read
that book, read that book.
I will link it in the shownotes below.
So breaking generationalpatterns is one of the most
(20:14):
badass things you will everfucking do in your life, because
it's going to bring you peaceand if you have kids, it's going
to end with you.
If you don't have kids, itstill ends with you and that
that's something that you canwork on and heal from in this
lifetime and be like I'm done.
I'm not whether you believe innext lives, however, you believe
(20:37):
what happens to us, but it'ssomething that you were put on
this planet to deal with, andyou're dealing with it okay.
And breaking general rationaltrauma is like, this isn't easy,
this isn't sexy, like, but youneed to deal with it, right.
(20:57):
So it can be exhausting thatbond, that pull that you have
with your family and they'restill in this relationship with
alcohol.
It's emotionally taxing, youknow.
So this is why you have to workthrough it, and journaling is a
great way to work through thiskind of stuff, especially with
(21:18):
your families.
You know, even, too, if youwant to write, like one of your
family members, a note abouttheir own ranking, then fucking
write it.
You don't have to give it tothem.
Write that shit out, fuckingread it to yourself and then
burn the bitch, have a burningceremony in your backyard, burn
it, let it go, because, again,going back to what I said, some
(21:40):
people do not know how to have aproductive conversation and you
walk away with hurt feelingsinside these family units.
Right, it's a lot okay.
Just know that these breakingthese generational patterns
again, you don't have tocontinue passing this down or
(22:01):
dealing with this in your life.
So it's an extraordinary thingto be like I'm fucking done.
I am done.
That's what I wanted to say too,when I thought that they were
like maybe having the times oftheir lives and like how I was
missing out, like if I wasmissing out on what they were
(22:21):
doing because they were alltogether drinking.
The reality is is that I wasn't, because it was the same old
song and dance and it lookedexactly the same, right when?
Then it's like again you haveto think of that.
It's like you went back to thatand then you were drinking with
them, of how they would feel.
But what's great about nolonger drinking?
(22:41):
And I want you to fucking takethis with you.
What's great about no longerdrinking?
And I want you to fucking takethis with you.
What's great about no longerdrinking inside that family unit
?
You will never hear fuckingagain that you need to control
your drinking.
Why can't you just have one?
You'll never have to go into ashame spiral again with your
family where they're allpointing the fingers at you
(23:04):
because you can't quote unquotehold your liquor, but they all
can and you don't ever have todeal with that and that is free.
And if you're nodding your headlike yeah, yeah, I was that one
in the family, right, like Iwas the one where it was
constant, worrisome of you knowif there was rehab and their
(23:26):
drinking problem and when theydrank, this is what happened.
I have an interview coming outin the summer probably in August
, I have to say, becausesometimes with guests I like to
record a lot, I batch contentwith the guest.
I had to do that before theDictator was done with school
(23:46):
for the summer.
But I interviewed Tom Farley,which is Chris Farley's brother,
and really the focus was on him.
But I had said to him in thisinterview and Chris Farley was a
comedian who Saturday NightLive if you don't know who he is
, I highly recommend you take toGoogle and I had asked the
(24:08):
question I said did you get awaywith your drinking?
Because the main priority wasalways on him, because he was
such, he was the extreme andhe's like oh, absolutely.
And that's what happens infamily dynamics.
It's like there's the one whois the hot mess express in my
(24:28):
family.
It definitely was my sister.
And then I was right underneathmy sister, you know, because I
didn't, because I was like thegood girl, right, like.
So how my drinking came out wasit looked a lot different than
like Kimmy's fallout.
I'm not throwing my sisterunder the bus like Kimmy's
(24:48):
fallouts.
I'm not throwing my sisterunder the bus.
If you're new here, we do anepisode to.
We do a show within a showcalled Living on the LH, which
I'll have news about that soon.
Okay, so I'm just.
This is how family dynamics canlook, so just know that you are
not missing out when it comesto continuing to partake in that
.
You know, and maybe too, yousat there for years and watched
(25:09):
your dad get hammered and talkto your mom like shit, and your
mom enabling that and sweepingthat under the rug, and then,
through your mom's trauma, shebecame a narcissist.
And then you have to dealthrough a narcissistic mother,
right, like the drinking fucksit all up.
I mean 1000%.
And that is why I still havesuch a passion about this,
(25:34):
because, again, I don't give afuck if you drink.
I don't.
I'm not a judger, I'm not.
Even if you were to go soberand you slip, it's like, okay,
it's okay, you know.
And alcohol is out there.
And if alcohol doesn't impactyour life in a nugget of way,
feel free, it's illegal.
(25:54):
It's never not going to beillegal, right?
We've seen what people do whenthey try taking alcohol away and
saying that it's illegal, soit's in this world.
It's not going.
It's not going.
But alcohol fucking destroysfamilies.
(26:16):
It destroys families.
I saw such a good meme too.
There was this chick, she's afood coach, she's a food coach.
And there was this other chickon social media who was like,
very like, eat red meat.
Like talking about shitty foodsout there, but then in her
grocery cart she had fivebottles of red wine, like five
(26:37):
bottles of wine in her grocerycart.
And this chick was like, ohyeah, because the bagels
destroys families, right, thebagels, people eating bagels get
behind a car and kill otherpeople, like it's true, right?
So I just, I will always bevery passionate about how
alcohol has fucking destroyedlives and families.
(27:00):
And big alcohol is just sittingthere with their dicks in their
hands making billions.
Anyways, sorry for going off onthat little tangent, but that's
how I feel, like it's fuckingsad.
It is sad.
So what can you keep doing,even when it's hard?
(27:21):
Okay, you got to hold yourboundary without the explanation
.
Okay, you don't owe anyone afucking 90 minute explanation
about your sobriety, you don't.
And even if they keep pushing,if they fucking keep pushing,
then leave, get out the door.
Nobody is chaining you to yourmother's leather couch.
(27:44):
You know what I mean.
Just like I gotta go.
That's why I'm a firm believer60-minute rule.
Give yourself an hour toparticipate.
If you still want to have thatconnection Again, ask them stop
going to their house onoccasions.
Hey, meet me for coffee, comeover here, right?
So you know.
(28:04):
Just like I'm not drinking, Idon't feel good when I drink
alcohol anymore.
That's all.
That's all you have to say.
I'm not drinking today, right?
Find a community that supportsyou AA, al-anon, smart Recovery,
(28:26):
the Sobriety Circle, a fuckingFacebook group, whatever it is
that supports you, where you arearound, people who understand,
and that you can explain this tosomebody who gets it.
That is fire, okay.
Let your actions speak louderthan your arguments.
Fire, okay.
(28:48):
Let your actions speak louderthan your arguments.
You don't have to convinceanyone that sobriety is better.
Just live in the peace you'recreating for yourself, and
that's powerful for any comeback.
And that is what I'm tellingyou that not everybody is going
to be hip with the shit and noteverybody is going to be able to
have that productiveconversation because they are in
their own heads, in their ownworlds and maybe, just maybe,
(29:11):
your brother, who is functioningmight have more of a problem
than you will ever know, andmaybe years down the road, your
brother might come to you and belike I want to quit drinking.
Or your sister, right Like.
Or your mother Like, how didyou do it?
Please tell me, make the spacefor the grief, because you are
(29:32):
going and it's going to taketime.
This is not going to.
This has nothing to do with howmany days sober you are.
Okay.
This has everything to do aboutthe process of grief, because
you have to grieve the familythat you were once part of.
You have to grieve the familythat you were once part of and
(29:57):
the lies that were told in thatfamily that you thought to be
the truth.
But then, when you got soberand you got clarity, you're like
, whoa, it's a real mindunfucking.
That takes some time and itmight take a couple of years.
You might even have in after 10years like, wow, I still have
(30:17):
some grief around that and justprocess the grief how, what
works best for you, let yourselffeel it.
Let yourself feel it.
You can start creating your ownfamily with, like, the friends
you choose, right, or, like Isaid, that new way of how you're
going to show up in that familyNumber five.
(30:39):
Stop shrinking to keep otherscomfortable.
Your healing might make themdefensive, but that's not your
burden to carry.
Their secrets are not yourburden to carry anymore.
So don't ever dull your lightto keep them safe.
Seriously, do not ever dullyour light for the expense of
(31:02):
them Again, for the expense ofthem Again.
Other people's secrets willfucking keep you sick.
And even if working throughthat with the therapist, work
through that with the therapistto process that, but this grief
is going to take some time, okay.
So remember, you're not theproblem.
You are just interrupting thispattern, right?
(31:26):
You saw the dysfunction withinyourself and said no more.
And this ends with me.
You're breaking thatgenerational patterns.
You know, you might even look atit too, like were your
grandparents drinkers?
Was that the vibe for them?
All of what you learned, ofwhat that relationship with
(31:47):
alcohol was like in your family?
So there's going to be pocketsof loneliness, there's going to
be pockets of where it's hard,but this is one of the best
things you can do for yourselfis really kind of face this and
I'm not saying face it head onby telling these people.
If you want to tell them, feelfree.
But I'm not saying like now yougo to them and be like you
(32:07):
motherfuckers.
You guys are all drinking, youknow, and it might blow up to
that it could, but I just youacknowledging it or you just
listening to this to be like, ohGod, I'm so happy.
Finally somebody is starting totalk about this.
So you know, you're not theblack sheep, you're not the
outcast and or the one whodoesn't fit anymore.
(32:30):
You're ahead of the game,you're ahead of your growth and
that is something I had to keepremembering to myself.
Those first couple of years LikeI am doing this for me and the
better part of me, because therewere periods where it was like
even before Matthew, there wasperiods where, like I don't know
(32:53):
, even in my drinking days, it'snot like I was connecting with
my family all the time, right,and it still felt lonely even in
my drinking days.
And then it's like I only gotconnected with them or felt
connected sometimes with becauseof the drinking.
And I have to say likeespecially too with my dad.
It's been a process to workthrough, that of being sober in
(33:18):
these last 12 years.
Like I said, he's alwayssupported me in this, but it was
still like there was a elephantin the room.
Okay, and if you know thatfeeling, you know that feeling.
I don't have to elaborate thatanymore because for so long it
was about bonding and bondingthrough cocktails, very surface
(33:42):
level, buzzed bullshit.
You know what I mean.
So I hope this episode helped.
Please let me know, slide intomy DMs on Sober Vibes and I
would love to hear your feedback.
Okay, and, as always, if thisepisode helped you too, please
rate, review and subscribe tothe show so you never miss an
(34:04):
episode.
If you are needing one-on-onecoaching with the Sobriety
Circle, you can find all of thatinformation.
My Sobriety Circle is my groupcoaching program.
You can find all of thatinformation in the show notes
below.
Thank you for listening.
Have an awesome day and keep ontrucking.
Hey, welcome back to the Sober Bives podcast.
I am your host and sober coach,courtney Anderson, and your
go-to guide of living a kick-asslife without alcohol.
You are listening to episode227, and I got a good one today
because we are going to talkabout what it's really like to
be sober in a family of drinkers.
This one I've been wanting todo for quite some time because
(00:55):
this, again, is not sharedenough about more of family
dynamics, especially, you know,when there's when the culture is
drinking and you're in it, youquit drinking and you start your
eyes, start opening up to yourfamily dynamics.
(01:15):
And I'm not here again, this is.
I'm not here to tell youanything that your family's
shitty because they drink,because that's not the case.
Okay, everybody has a familydynamic.
Not every family is perfect.
No, family is perfect, andwhether that is with alcohol in
it or without, there is not.
(01:37):
Family is very hard.
Family can be.
Family is amazing, right?
You know, if you're close tothem and if you like them.
And then there's some reallyshitty family.
You could come from some reallyshitty people and that is the
reality.
And I think people don't wantto talk about this.
It's because, when I really tryreally, really hard to talk
(02:00):
about this from my perspectivewithout being like this person
did this with pointing fingers.
I don't ever want to come fromthat place, but this is my truth
and this is what I wanted toshare with you, because for so
many who quit, it's like familyis a very big trigger for them,
because they came from a familyof drinkers and then a lot of it
(02:24):
too.
It's like if you're the one whoended up having quote unquote
the problem, even thougheverybody else has their own
relationship with alcohol orwith drugs, whatever it may be,
but we're talking about alcoholhere.
So use this conversation todaywith insert, whatever it is
that's in there, especially, too, if you go back to the episode
(02:47):
that I talked about with Margiea couple episodes ago about
being an adult child of analcoholic and dysfunction.
So this just ties intodysfunction, because when there
are issues like that, there isdysfunction.
Even, too, if you grew up witha parent with a mental health
issue, there is dysfunction inthat.
(03:07):
So I hope this episode helpsyou today.
This is something that Isuffered with for years, because
I was the first one to stopsomething in my family,
(03:29):
something in my family, and atpoints it did get lonely, right.
So this is the side of sobrietythat, like I said, does not get
talked about enough, because Ithink people are afraid if they
talk about it then they feellike they're carrying other
people's secrets in and it justisn't the case when it's just
from your truth and you canstand by that because nobody can
take away your perception of it, right, and you can talk about
this in a healthy way.
(03:51):
But what happens when yourhealing makes other people
uncomfortable Because it's goingto?
So if you've been feelinglonely, dismissed, blamed,
misunderstood by your familysince getting sober, this is
definitely the space for you tofeel seen.
Okay.
So let's talk about it again.
You're not alone.
(04:12):
This is just a process of yourjourney.
So there is an isolation thatnobody warns you about.
When you get sober in a familyof drinkers, you don't just lose
alcohol, you lose that sense ofbelonging in that family.
You lose that shared thing thatmade the dysfunction feel
(04:32):
fucking normal Bonding over wine, joking about hangovers, right,
like I can't tell you how manytimes if I showed up hungover
somewhere, it would get laughedabout Pouring a drink.
When things got tense in thefamily, that was the normal.
And now you have stoppeddrinking and you're like what
the fuck is going on, becauseyour eyes are opening, it can be
(04:55):
feel it's very isolating Bottomline.
It's isolating because it'slike you have to now cut this
cord from your family,especially if you're very
involved with your family.
Now you might be listening andbe like I don't have that
relationship with your familyand that's fine, and maybe this
episode isn't for you and thatis okay too.
But if you want to learn more,keep on trucking through this
(05:19):
episode so you might startnoticing how often drinking is
the glue that holds the wholefamily together.
It's almost like drinking isanother, is like the member of
the family Best way I can sayfor drinking this.
You know how, on Sex and theCity in New York is like the
(05:39):
heart, like truly New York isalmost like the heart of that
show and it's like anothercharacter in itself.
This is how alcohol is in a lotof family dynamics.
So you might start feeling leftout.
You might even feel punished.
You might not be invited tothings anymore because now
you're saying no to drinking,right, and you're probably
(06:03):
questioning whether you're theone being dramatic, or or or do
I really have a problem?
Because my brother and mysister and my mama and my dada
right, like they can all drink.
You can.
You can clearly tell I have athree and a half year old by my
verbiage with mama and dada, butI have to say, starting to
(06:26):
switch to calling us mommy anddaddy, so I'm going to have to
go with that too.
That was a side note about mythree and a half year old the
dictator.
So the answer is about thedramatics.
You're not.
And the answer is about like,did I not have a problem?
And I'm going to say the fuck,you did Okay, because you are
(06:46):
looking at something where it'slike they make it look like it's
normal, because maybe perhapsyour brother doesn't fucking
throw patio furniture like youwhen he's been drinking.
So then you were the focus ofthis right.
So then it became where you werethe focus, because when you
(07:07):
drank you acted out in a way andagain, it is not your fault,
because alcohol is an extremelytoxic substance, like the shit I
would do when I was drinking.
Man, oh man, I never felt thatway sober.
Do you think I was giving deaththreats to people when I was
sober?
The answer is no, but when Ihad been drinking and in a
(07:29):
blackout, I was tellingmotherfuckers everywhere I was
going to kill them.
Okay, we can laugh about this.
Now.
I find it funny now, at thetime I did not.
Years of therapy and working onmyself and my trauma response
of just laughing about thingshas worked, but that's what I'm
(07:51):
saying.
So please don't shame yourself.
Okay, but this is the realitywhen it comes into play with
family dynamics, especially, too, when drinking was like the
thing you guys did, right?
So again, you're not beingdramatic, you're just now seeing
things clearly.
And with that type of claritycomes grief.
(08:14):
I stand by it.
You have to grieve your olddrinking self.
There is a part of this processwhen you get sober, it might
not hit you those first eightweeks, it might not hit you
those first six months.
It might hit you a year or twodown the road.
For some, everybody's on theirown pathway, but grief waits for
(08:35):
nobody and it's going to comeup.
And then this is another layerof it, especially of where you
came from of like, oh wow, nowI'm going to have to figure out
what the relationship with myfamily looks like.
So you do have to grieve that.
So why do you now become thescapegoat, okay, and this is
(08:58):
another thing that happens.
You are becoming the mirror andnot everyone likes what they
see, right, okay, and I'm noteven talking about like they can
be very supportive of you andwant this for yourself, but
there's still going to be aweird thing Everybody wanting me
sober, everyone was like, greatjob, you know not drinking,
(09:19):
proud of you, but then they werestill doing it, okay, and
everything I talk about in herehas happened to me where there
was stuff I stopped gettinginvited to out of assumption on
these on their end.
So, and it was too like, all ofa sudden it was you know well,
don't judge us because we'redrinking, motherfucker, did I
(09:41):
say anything?
I haven't even spoken yet.
Like, hey, motherfucker, did Isay anything?
I haven't even spoken yet.
You know what I mean.
So you become a mirror to thisfamily dynamic.
You have stopped and nowthey're not really they have to
look at their own actions too,right.
So your choice to stop drinking,especially if no one else is
(10:03):
doing it, it can feelthreatening to people this can
even say true to friends too,okay, and threatening to people
who haven't faced their ownpatterns.
So what do they do?
They project and they blame.
Okay, you might hear thesethings, maybe you've heard.
Well, it's kind of harsh, butit could be a reality.
(10:23):
You think you're better than usnow Don't be uptight.
It's just one drink.
You've changed again from whatI just said of like, don't judge
us, like, I'm fine, mycocktailing's fine, I don't have
a problem with alcohol, right.
The truth of that is is, if anyone of them is saying that to
(10:44):
you, you didn't change.
You stopped drinking, okay, youstopped drinking.
You stopped the madness foryourself, right.
But they haven't allowed to,they haven't caught up with who
you currently are now andallowing that space for you to
shine through because there's athreat, right.
(11:08):
This is what happens, too, withscapegoats.
So in waking up in a systemthat's really built on
suppression, that's really builton we don't talk about this, we
sweep things under the mat.
If mom or dad have fucked upwith alcohol, it's okay, you
know, because they're paying thebills and they're keeping it
(11:29):
together and they're functioningright.
So this is going to be veryuncomfortable for you and it's
going to be very uncomfortablefor them, but that doesn't mean
that you did anything wrong,okay.
So remember that you haven'tdone anything wrong, even though
you will feel like this when Iwent through this with my family
(11:53):
.
Like I said, still to this day,I got it a while ago from
someone in my family about likewe, you know, we don't want to
hear judgment, and it's like Idon't bring this shit up.
I don't, I don't bring thisshit up.
But I listened to you fuckingbring up your goddamn conspiracy
(12:14):
series.
I listened to you insert youropinion about everything.
Do you know what I mean?
Like so that's where it's funnywith people with the dream, but
it's being said because theydon't want to hear it, right,
and it is mildly entertainingand sometimes, at this point, I
just I'm quiet about it becauseit's not a battle I have the
(12:36):
energy for I don't.
Do you know what I have?
Energy for Productiveconversations.
A three and a half year old soprovides podcasts and community
and my coaching clients, myhusband, my friend, like I said,
(12:59):
productive conversations andwhen you're in a family where
there is dysfunction, sometimes,those productive conversations
even though you are a healthierversion of yourself now you want
to have those.
You have to think really longand hard if that person that you
want to have that productiveconversation with is going to be
(13:22):
able to have one with you,because when you have quit
drinking and started breaking agenerational trauma or, I'm
sorry, a generational pattern,right, they might not be ready
to hear that.
So really, when it comes tothis too, you have to protect
(13:46):
your energy at all costs becausealso in these family dynamics,
someone could say some heinousshit to you and, like you know,
with family, where it like cutsdeep because you can cut a bitch
with the shit that you can saywith your siblings or families
and they can do the same thingfor you, and you might not be in
that spot to mentally beprepared to hear that and then
(14:11):
them saying some foul ass shitto you could end up having you
relapse and say what the fuck isthe point?
Because you are taking likethat criticism on from somebody
who is unhealthy.
So that is what I'm saying.
You have to be careful when youare stepping, when you are
(14:31):
stepping away from the family oflike what is it worth for you
to talk about?
Is this a safe space to have aproductive conversation with
somebody?
Because you got to really thinkabout that truly, and that will
be very helpful, okay in this,because it just comes down to,
(14:53):
there's just some people in lifewho think that they can say
whatever the fuck they want andthey have, and they've gotten
away with it for a very longtime but that doesn't mean that
you have to take that on and sitthere and continuing to listen
to it.
That's why boundaries come intoplace too when it comes to this
type of stuff.
Right, like limiting your time,limiting your in-person time,
(15:17):
limiting your phoneconversations, maybe calling
that person when they're not inthe drinking hour.
Maybe you call that person inthe morning time and not do it
at nighttime.
Right?
Maybe you ask them to come overto your house because it's an
alcohol-free space, and maybeyou just now do like a brunch.
There is boundaries that youcan put within your family
(15:41):
dynamic to still be able to havea relationship with them as a
non-drinker, right?
If you want that, you might belistening to this episode and be
like fuck my family and likedeuces to you If that is the
decision you have.
But this really is about theisolating feeling that comes
(16:10):
with when you no longer drinkand you think something is a
certain type of way, and thenit's not, because now you're
sober and like even too.
I remember going through it,those first couple of years of
being like, well, I wonder whatthey're doing.
Today, at Sunday, right, likeyou're going to have those
(16:32):
thoughts like, oh, I didn't getincluded in this, right, because
I don't I don't drink.
There's, there is thatloneliness to it and it's like
sometimes you will look againand be like what is wrong with
me?
And the answer is nothing.
Nothing, you are just not aterm and you are just not
(16:53):
subscribing to the toxicity.
And it takes some time todetach from that toxicity and
detach from the family unit youknew and you can build a new
family unit, either like withinyourself and then what that
looks like going forward withthat family unit.
(17:15):
There's a great book.
There's a great book that Ihave mentioned many times in
this podcast.
I actually just finishedreading it and it's called
Codependent no More and I highlyrecommend that, if you come
from a family of drinkers, thatyou read that book.
(17:37):
Okay, it will blow your mind.
Rip Melody Now, it's the author.
She passed away this year andwe're just so fortunate to have
this great book.
I have just read that book nowfor the fifth time.
You might be like JesusCourtney, but this is what I
know.
This is what I know of fromwhere I sit here and the years
(18:01):
of work I have done with myselfon myself.
There's issues like peoplepleasing, like codependency,
right that you are never trulygoing to heal from.
That they will continue to popup in different times of your
life where maybe a situationarises okay, my dad is currently
(18:23):
going through stage four kidneycancer and I found this out in
February and I, within like thatfirst month, noticed some like
codependent stuff coming out ofme and I was like I need to
revisit this book Because, atthe end of the day, I can only
control myself.
I cannot control everybody andtheir actions, right.
(18:46):
So this is why I read it again,because when I see that stuff
come up, that's where I'm likebreathe, it's an awareness, and
then I can sit there and be like, okay, I need to do what's best
for me, because it's reallyeasy and this is the same thing
with drinking too it's very easyto go back to default ways of
(19:10):
thinking, especially when thatwas fucking instilled in you for
so long.
Same thing with the drinkingwhere it's.
Sometimes you will just catchyourself being like it's easier
just to drink.
Okay, it's easier just to havea drink and deal with this in
life.
That has come from the years ofwhatever was instilled in you
(19:30):
and even in your activerelationship with alcohol and
your addictions, of how youcoped okay.
So these like inner things, ofwhat makes us be like I say like
people pleasing andcodependency where you you I
don't want to say it's a day today, constant thing through the
evolution of your sobriety, Ifyou, if these ring true with you
(19:53):
, but it's something you got towork on.
It truly is.
It's something you got to workon from time to time with stuff
comes up.
So if you come from a drinkingfamily, read that book, read
that book, read that book.
I will link it in the shownotes below.
So breaking generationalpatterns is one of the most
(20:14):
badass things you will everfucking do in your life, because
it's going to bring you peaceand if you have kids, it's going
to end with you.
If you don't have kids, itstill ends with you and that
that's something that you canwork on and heal from in this
lifetime and be like I'm done.
I'm not whether you believe innext lives, however, you believe
(20:37):
what happens to us, but it'ssomething that you were put on
this planet to deal with, andyou're dealing with it okay.
And breaking general rationaltrauma is like, this isn't easy,
this isn't sexy, like, but youneed to deal with it, right.
(20:57):
So it can be exhausting thatbond, that pull that you have
with your family and they'restill in this relationship with
alcohol.
It's emotionally taxing, youknow.
So this is why you have to workthrough it, and journaling is a
great way to work through thiskind of stuff, especially with
(21:18):
your families.
You know, even, too, if youwant to write, like one of your
family members, a note abouttheir own ranking, then fucking
write it.
You don't have to give it tothem.
Write that shit out, fuckingread it to yourself and then
burn the bitch, have a burningceremony in your backyard, burn
it, let it go, because, again,going back to what I said, some
(21:40):
people do not know how to have aproductive conversation and you
walk away with hurt feelingsinside these family units.
Right, it's a lot okay.
Just know that these breakingthese generational patterns
again, you don't have tocontinue passing this down or
(22:01):
dealing with this in your life.
So it's an extraordinary thingto be like I'm fucking done.
I am done.
That's what I wanted to say too,when I thought that they were
like maybe having the times oftheir lives and like how I was
missing out, like if I wasmissing out on what they were
(22:21):
doing because they were alltogether drinking.
The reality is is that I wasn't, because it was the same old
song and dance and it lookedexactly the same, right when?
Then it's like again you haveto think of that.
It's like you went back to thatand then you were drinking with
them, of how they would feel.
But what's great about nolonger drinking?
(22:41):
And I want you to fucking takethis with you.
What's great about no longerdrinking?
And I want you to fucking takethis with you.
What's great about no longerdrinking inside that family unit
?
You will never hear fuckingagain that you need to control
your drinking.
Why can't you just have one?
You'll never have to go into ashame spiral again with your
family where they're allpointing the fingers at you
(23:04):
because you can't quote unquotehold your liquor, but they all
can and you don't ever have todeal with that and that is free.
And if you're nodding your headlike yeah, yeah, I was that one
in the family, right, like Iwas the one where it was
constant, worrisome of you knowif there was rehab and their
(23:26):
drinking problem and when theydrank, this is what happened.
I have an interview coming outin the summer probably in August
, I have to say, becausesometimes with guests I like to
record a lot, I batch contentwith the guest.
I had to do that before theDictator was done with school
(23:46):
for the summer.
But I interviewed Tom Farley,which is Chris Farley's brother,
and really the focus was on him.
But I had said to him in thisinterview and Chris Farley was a
comedian who Saturday NightLive if you don't know who he is
, I highly recommend you take toGoogle and I had asked the
(24:08):
question I said did you get awaywith your drinking?
Because the main priority wasalways on him, because he was
such, he was the extreme andhe's like oh, absolutely.
And that's what happens infamily dynamics.
It's like there's the one whois the hot mess express in my
(24:28):
family.
It definitely was my sister.
And then I was right underneathmy sister, you know, because I
didn't, because I was like thegood girl, right, like.
So how my drinking came out wasit looked a lot different than
like Kimmy's fallout.
I'm not throwing my sisterunder the bus like Kimmy's
(24:48):
fallouts.
I'm not throwing my sisterunder the bus.
If you're new here, we do anepisode to.
We do a show within a showcalled Living on the LH, which
I'll have news about that soon.
Okay, so I'm just.
This is how family dynamics canlook, so just know that you are
not missing out when it comesto continuing to partake in that
.
You know, and maybe too, yousat there for years and watched
(25:09):
your dad get hammered and talkto your mom like shit, and your
mom enabling that and sweepingthat under the rug, and then,
through your mom's trauma, shebecame a narcissist.
And then you have to dealthrough a narcissistic mother,
right, like the drinking fucksit all up.
I mean 1000%.
And that is why I still havesuch a passion about this,
(25:34):
because, again, I don't give afuck if you drink.
I don't.
I'm not a judger, I'm not.
Even if you were to go soberand you slip, it's like, okay,
it's okay, you know.
And alcohol is out there.
And if alcohol doesn't impactyour life in a nugget of way,
feel free, it's illegal.
(25:54):
It's never not going to beillegal, right?
We've seen what people do whenthey try taking alcohol away and
saying that it's illegal, soit's in this world.
It's not going.
It's not going.
But alcohol fucking destroysfamilies.
(26:16):
It destroys families.
I saw such a good meme too.
There was this chick, she's afood coach, she's a food coach.
And there was this other chickon social media who was like,
very like, eat red meat.
Like talking about shitty foodsout there, but then in her
grocery cart she had fivebottles of red wine, like five
(26:37):
bottles of wine in her grocerycart.
And this chick was like, ohyeah, because the bagels
destroys families, right, thebagels, people eating bagels get
behind a car and kill otherpeople, like it's true, right?
So I just, I will always bevery passionate about how
alcohol has fucking destroyedlives and families.
(27:00):
And big alcohol is just sittingthere with their dicks in their
hands making billions.
Anyways, sorry for going off onthat little tangent, but that's
how I feel, like it's fuckingsad.
It is sad.
So what can you keep doing,even when it's hard?
(27:21):
Okay, you got to hold yourboundary without the explanation
.
Okay, you don't owe anyone afucking 90 minute explanation
about your sobriety, you don't.
And even if they keep pushing,if they fucking keep pushing,
then leave, get out the door.
Nobody is chaining you to yourmother's leather couch.
(27:44):
You know what I mean.
Just like I gotta go.
That's why I'm a firm believer60-minute rule.
Give yourself an hour toparticipate.
If you still want to have thatconnection Again, ask them stop
going to their house onoccasions.
Hey, meet me for coffee, comeover here, right?
So you know.
(28:04):
Just like I'm not drinking, Idon't feel good when I drink
alcohol anymore.
That's all.
That's all you have to say.
I'm not drinking today, right?
Find a community that supportsyou AA, al-anon, smart Recovery,
(28:26):
the Sobriety Circle, a fuckingFacebook group, whatever it is
that supports you, where you arearound, people who understand,
and that you can explain this tosomebody who gets it.
That is fire, okay.
Let your actions speak louderthan your arguments.
Fire, okay.
(28:48):
Let your actions speak louderthan your arguments.
You don't have to convinceanyone that sobriety is better.
Just live in the peace you'recreating for yourself, and
that's powerful for any comeback.
And that is what I'm tellingyou that not everybody is going
to be hip with the shit and noteverybody is going to be able to
have that productiveconversation because they are in
their own heads, in their ownworlds and maybe, just maybe,
(29:11):
your brother, who is functioningmight have more of a problem
than you will ever know, andmaybe years down the road, your
brother might come to you and belike I want to quit drinking.
Or your sister, right Like.
Or your mother Like, how didyou do it?
Please tell me, make the spacefor the grief, because you are
(29:32):
going and it's going to taketime.
This is not going to.
This has nothing to do with howmany days sober you are.
Okay.
This has everything to do aboutthe process of grief, because
you have to grieve the familythat you were once part of.
You have to grieve the familythat you were once part of and
(29:57):
the lies that were told in thatfamily that you thought to be
the truth.
But then, when you got soberand you got clarity, you're like
, whoa, it's a real mindunfucking.
That takes some time and itmight take a couple of years.
You might even have in after 10years like, wow, I still have
(30:17):
some grief around that and justprocess the grief how, what
works best for you, let yourselffeel it.
Let yourself feel it.
You can start creating your ownfamily with, like, the friends
you choose, right, or, like Isaid, that new way of how you're
going to show up in that familyNumber five.
(30:39):
Stop shrinking to keep otherscomfortable.
Your healing might make themdefensive, but that's not your
burden to carry.
Their secrets are not yourburden to carry anymore.
So don't ever dull your lightto keep them safe.
Seriously, do not ever dullyour light for the expense of
(31:02):
them Again, for the expense ofthem Again.
Other people's secrets willfucking keep you sick.
And even if working throughthat with the therapist, work
through that with the therapistto process that, but this grief
is going to take some time, okay.
So remember, you're not theproblem.
You are just interrupting thispattern, right?
(31:26):
You saw the dysfunction withinyourself and said no more.
And this ends with me.
You're breaking thatgenerational patterns.
You know, you might even look atit too, like were your
grandparents drinkers?
Was that the vibe for them?
All of what you learned, ofwhat that relationship with
(31:47):
alcohol was like in your family?
So there's going to be pocketsof loneliness, there's going to
be pockets of where it's hard,but this is one of the best
things you can do for yourselfis really kind of face this and
I'm not saying face it head onby telling these people.
If you want to tell them, feelfree.
But I'm not saying like now yougo to them and be like you
(32:07):
motherfuckers.
You guys are all drinking, youknow, and it might blow up to
that it could, but I just youacknowledging it or you just
listening to this to be like, ohGod, I'm so happy.
Finally somebody is starting totalk about this.
So you know, you're not theblack sheep, you're not the
outcast and or the one whodoesn't fit anymore.
(32:30):
You're ahead of the game,you're ahead of your growth and
that is something I had to keepremembering to myself.
Those first couple of years LikeI am doing this for me and the
better part of me, because therewere periods where it was like
even before Matthew, there wasperiods where, like I don't know
(32:53):
, even in my drinking days, it'snot like I was connecting with
my family all the time, right,and it still felt lonely even in
my drinking days.
And then it's like I only gotconnected with them or felt
connected sometimes with becauseof the drinking.
And I have to say likeespecially too with my dad.
It's been a process to workthrough, that of being sober in
(33:18):
these last 12 years.
Like I said, he's alwayssupported me in this, but it was
still like there was a elephantin the room.
Okay, and if you know thatfeeling, you know that feeling.
I don't have to elaborate thatanymore because for so long it
was about bonding and bondingthrough cocktails, very surface
(33:42):
level, buzzed bullshit.
You know what I mean.
So I hope this episode helped.
Please let me know, slide intomy DMs on Sober Vibes and I
would love to hear your feedback.
Okay, and, as always, if thisepisode helped you too, please
rate, review and subscribe tothe show so you never miss an
(34:04):
episode.
If you are needing one-on-onecoaching with the Sobriety
Circle, you can find all of thatinformation.
My Sobriety Circle is my groupcoaching program.
You can find all of thatinformation in the show notes
below.
Thank you for listening.
Have an awesome day and keep ontrucking.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.