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October 3, 2025 42 mins

Have you experienced divorce or currently going through one? And is your spouse making it a living nightmare for you? If so, you are experiencing a “high conflict” divorce, and this form of loss not only carries similar emotions as all other forms of loss but also intensified them.

Join Amanda and her guest, Lisa Johnson, high conflict divorce strategist and author of Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High Conflict Divorce, And How To Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances, for an empowering conversation that serves as a guidepost for those suffering with a narcissistic ex or soon-to-be ex. 

Listen to the ladies discuss:

🔥How to manage your relationship with your ex and your children in the midst of a divorce and legal proceedings

🔥Strategies to navigate the legal system with a narcissistic ex

🔥Legal abuse: What it is, the emotions associate with grief that accompany it (anger, injustice, despair), and the toll it takes on a person mentally and emotionally

🔥When one parent pits the children against the other, using coercion to force the children to choose them in an attempt to punish their spouse and how this is a form of emotional abuse

🔥Strategic communication tips: How to craft emails to your ex keeping in mind the “invisible audience” that may read them at some point

🔥The importance of humor and having fun to help you move through difficult life transitions

Lisa Johnson is the co-founder of Been There Got Out, high conflict divorce strategist and certified domestic violence advocate, who has successfully represented herself through scores of court appearances. Her case, published in the Connecticut Law Journal, is being used as legal precedent. Lisa’s live testimony helped pass Jennifers’ Law in Connecticut, the third state in America to expand its legal definition of domestic violence to include “coercive control.”  She and her partner, Chris, coach people in high-conflict relationships, divorce, custody battles, and co-parenting hell so they have the chance of the best outcome in family court and beyond. They also offer a weekly Legal Abuse Support Group for those dealing with narcissistic opponents in legal matters. Their book, Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances' was released in 2023. Their first course, “How to Communicate with Your Ex Without Destroying Your Case or Losing Your Mind” is out now!

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