Unleashing the Power of AI: Insights from Brett Malinowski and Corey Berrier

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video (00:00):
Welcome to the Successful Life Podcast.
I'm your host, Corey Berrier.
And I'm here with my man, Brett.
God, I'm gonna try BrettMalinowski.
Nailed it.
Good job.
Really?
Holy cow.
I usually destroy people's lastnames.
Oh, you got it.
You problem.
I got lucky on that one.
It's up, dude.
How are you?
I'm great.
How are you?
Good, man.
So, just a little backstorybefore you tell everybody a

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little bit about who you are.
I found Brett on, he's got apretty dope YouTube channel, and
I followed him all the way to, Ican't I guess it's wg it's one
of your, just a small, very,yeah.
W G M I.
It's very, small tool, but Ithought it was really
interesting because, you know,it gives you, you know,
pre-populated prompts and by nomeans is that your main

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business.
But it is fascinating how manypeople don't really know about,
like, I use a tool that's got awhole bunch of prompts, very
similar, right?
But a lot of people don't.
They just don't know.
Which is wild to me.
I mean, it is new.
Let's give'em like, I think pprompting is a new term in my
vocabulary that, I didn't havefour months ago, so I totally

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get it.
And so it's really just aboutputting pe the idea in people's
minds.
Most people right now arelimited by what their
imagination can think of.
Since it can do so much, it'skind of difficult for you.
It's like information overload.
So giving as many pieces ofadvice or prompting their
prompts has been really helpfulfor a lot of people.
You know, it's really good.
Yeah, that's a really goodpoint.

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I like the way you said that.
Yeah, people you can't imagineif you don't know, you don't
know.
I mean, you like, and I thinkthat's where a lot of people
are, having trouble for sure,having trouble with, you know,
if it's chat or if it, whateverAI product they're trying to
use, that's the issue.
They just don't know how to askthe questions and.
Yeah, it's wild though once youget into it and learn it.

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Yeah, and they're basic.
They're just basic principlesand really it comes down to
like, you have to be an expertin your field to really know how
to use it in that field.
Like prompting is so specificand if you have an expert in one
field, all the ins and outs, thespecific verbiage, the specific
terminology, and that way youcan get a way better output from
chat g BT or mid journey.
But if you're just like aeveryday person at a fourth

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grade reading level, you'regonna be like, write me a good
book.
And then if you are like anovelist, you're gonna use way
more specific terms and get likea way better output.
So there's a lot of value thereand a lot of edge, and it's just
a new skill.
People really should be focusingon learning.
Dude, if they're, if people arenot focused, like they gotta get
into the game because not you'regonna be screwed like a hundred

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percent.
It's, wow.
I've heard stories of peoplethat have like run billion
dollar companies and they'realready laying off a third of
their workforce because so muchof this like clerical
administrative work can be done,like a lot of people have like
pull on copywriting or writingteams where they can let go of
nine out of 10 people and theyjust have one writer who just
goes in and tweaks the output ofchat, G B T, our company, W G M

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I.
We also have like a media armwhere we have a newsletter and
articles and we've made thiswhole system where I can click
one like button on Twitter whereI bookmark or like it.
And that gets sent to notion,that gets automatically prompted
by chat G P T and output inevery single different format
for LinkedIn articles, everysingle different social media
platform.
And one click on Twitter, andthen we just have one writer go

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through and kind of make it ourown and make sure it's perfect.
And that's like we're doing thework of a 12 person newsletter
team with four people now.
Are you, I'm gonna, of course,I'm gonna ask you, are you using
hints for that?
Using what Hints?
No, we use make.com.
It's like kinda like a Zapier ina way.
So it's make.com GPT four s APIand notion.

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Got it.
But, you know, do you, I think Ilearned about hints on your
thing.
H I N T S?
I don't think so.
I maybe not.
Let me look.
It's interesting because it's,it, yeah.
I, it's supposed to be, it'sbasically like a personal
assistant, which, you know, Imean, cool.
There's cool.
Yeah, it is really cool.
I've been using Auto G PT for alot of that.
Okay.
All right.

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How are you using it?
Just outta Curiosity Auto gpt.
Oh, it's so cool.
So you just make two agentswhere they're on a task, like
with each other.
So you make two auto GPTs thatare on the same team and they
communicate to each other sothey can prompt each other back
and forth.
And so whether we need toresearch for a specific, like my
next video, whether we need toresearch for an article or a
trending topic on YouTube, wewill literally like say, Hey,

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Agent oh seven, agent oh nine,whatever it is, work together to
find the most trending topic inthe Make money online niche on
YouTube.
And they're gonna work togetherto start seeing in the last like
month what has been the mostpopular for my niche.
That's taking a lot of finetuning.
It's by no means perfect, buteven like just getting people to
like schedule, like do outreachor to schedule meetings is what

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we're trying to figure out rightnow.
But there's so many differentpossibilities, and if you're not
focused on becoming like themost AI optimized business in
your field, you are very quicklygoing to fall behind and be at a
huge disadvantage.
Agreed.
And there's a lot of stuff outthere that, you know, it, geez,
coulda came out two months agoand like it's all news.

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Like, it's just so many thingsand that, you know, I can't get
into the details, but we've, gotour MVP for what I'm building in
the industry that I've beenserving.
And we're gonna collaborate,like we're gonna destroy this
industry.
Absolutely destroy it.
And so I'll go ahead.
I was gonna say, it's like oneof the biggest opportunities to
grow like a multiple eightfigure evaluated SaaS, like in a

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matter of months, if you're thefirst one to just go into an old
industry and implement this ontop of their existing software,
just add it at each individualpoint.
Just a little a p I call withtheir private data multi eight
figure company easily.
Absolutely.
You're a hundred percentcorrect.
Absolutely.
So, so that leads me to my nextquestion.

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So I want you to dive into alittle bit about your Web three
background.
I want you to talk about whatyou're doing with that.
And more importantly, I want youto talk about, you know, a lot
of people I could assume basedon what happened with.
The crypto meltdown.
You know, I would imagine that alot of people are, nervous about
blockchain NFTs, so on and soforth.

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The best thing I can say is thatthere's no rush for this
technology.
I cover future technologies onmy channels, like AI, web three,
no code, what is gonna berelevant for the next 10 years,
but emphasis on the next 10years.
Like there is no need forblockchain right now.
It's like everyone compares itto the internet bubble.
I would say that's veryaccurate, but it's more so
similar to how the internetoperated.

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Back then.
If you wanted to make a website,you had a no HTML code.
It was very rudimentary.
You had to do everythingmanually.
That's where we are withblockchain and NFTs.
None of these.
Assets that are exist right now.
None of the NFTs, none of thecrypto ha are a real product or
solve a real problem.
It's like just a morecomplicated way to do something
that already happened.
But it is a hedge againstcentralized powers, basically.

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And so NFTs are just likedigital ownership to prove you
own something on the internet.
And crypto is like digital gold,digital money.
So you have another asset thatcould be protected from someone
like a bank failing or thegovernment's taking too much
control.
And so it's kind of just a hedgeagainst the financial collapse
or governments taking too muchpower.
If since they have like thepossibility of making digital

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currencies or digital money,they could really control that.
This is the hedge to make sureno one can control our money in
the future.
So it's not like people view itas like an investment.
That's not really how you shouldbe thinking about it.
It's more of a diversificationasset on the crypto side.
And then NFTs, again, like Ikeep saying, are digital assets,
digital ownership.
So anything in the world can bean N F T and how we've kind,

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just like with promptengineering, since it's so new,
people have been very limitedabout their imagination on how
NFTs could be used.
But as we move forward, it's ahuge technological shift that's
just ultimately better.
And that's why I believe thatit'll win.
You know, I so Hedera, right?
I'm sure you're familiar withHedi, right?
Of course.
Hedera the blockchain.
Okay, so you know IO 2020 twos.

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Yeah.
What's that?
I do, yeah, they're ISO two,like 2,220 twos or whatever what
they're called.
Yeah.
I would not know how to do whatthat means.
But what I do know is like I dosome work with like the
Department of Energy, and I'mgetting involved with the
Department of Defense.
Well, the D O D, they're usingheera.
So what does that mean?

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I think that.
N given that information, thatshould tell you that we're
headed towards that for sure.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
It's just a new like incentivemethod.
It's just like all transactionsare now documented automatically
on a ledger that anyone can seehead.
There is actually a corporateledger, so it's pri, it's like a
blockchain for independentcompanies.
So it's private blockchains, butinternally it's tracking all

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their transactions and theninstant settlements you can send
their token across to othercompanies who use the same
token.
And so it's called like an ISO2022 standard.
And it's kind of like these arelike, if you ever hear cbdc
these, this is the technologythat's gonna be used for cbdc.
But it's like, do we wantcentralized blockchains where
the companies control privatedata or do we want fully

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decentralized where it's publicdomain?
I think we want both cuzblockchain technology's cool and
there's different needs fordifferent use cases.
Yeah.
So you know, so can you justbreak down I guess, so
blockchain, like you said it's,complete transparency.
But it tracks every singlething.
I guess the best way to viewthis, like if you bought a new
car, let's just dumb it down,sort of.

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If you bought a new car, youcould then track it if you
bought it and put it on theblockchain.
Yeah, you could track it fromnow to the end of time, right?
Yeah.
So the car would be, the cartitle would be the N F T the,
because it's unique.
It's like the VIN number of thiscar.
There's this nft, an NFTs, nonfungible token, has a unique
token.
Id just like every VIN number ona car is unique.

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It would have a unique token IDfor its nft, and then every time
that NFT is transacted on ablockchain, it's just an
automated ledger.
You don't need a human toverify.
You don't need to go to the whatis it, the D M V to verify the
sale.
There's no bill of sale, notransfer of the title.
It's just if they buy this N FT, you saw that it came from
this person's wallet, then itmoved to this person's wallet
and you see for exactly how muchmoney, and that's in history

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forever.
It's immutable is the term.
And no fees.
Right.
You avoid all, the fees thatway.
So it's, there's like a smallnetwork fee cuz you're paying
for the computer power to likedo the transaction, but it's
just a few dollars.
Yeah.
Compared to the DMV is gonnatake 7% depending on the state.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, for sure.
So I'm just curious, so I knowthat you, know, you've been in

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the AI space for ish fivemonths-ish now.
What other than just realizingthat this is the future, what, I
mean what kind of drew you tothis.
So I guess I'm just like theclass.
I'm like, I've been anentrepreneur my whole life.
Yeah.
I'm young and I see that.
My advantage is my brain's stilldeveloping.
I'm open to learning new things.

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I'm not tied down to a businessI've had for 15 years.
I don't have all theseresponsibilities, and so anytime
I see a new opportunity, I'mlike, that's my edge.
That's my edge.
This immediately adds value.
This makes sense.
Let's be these guys because thatis our, like advantage as youth.
We're willing to change, adapton the fly, and we can
understand the concept reallyeasily.
So just combine our businessknowledge with these new

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technologies.
There's, that's like a perfectrecipe.
I just view it like the 2000again, the 2000 internet
opportunity, all the PayPalmafia, all these people made
millions, hundreds of millions,billions of dollars by catching
that opportunity of the platformchange.
And I see this as a, ourgeneration's platform change, so
I'm just gonna go all in on it.
Don't even need to think aboutit.
Yeah, dude.
I'm saying I'm exactly like, I'mnot 26 years old, but I'm, I

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understand the value and like,you know, I missed, like I
wasn't really paying attentionduring that time, the internet
boom.
Like I was, you know, I wasprobably drunk in college.
Like I, yeah.
You know, but this is like, thisis the future and this a hundred
percent if, you know, if youcould get in and figure this
thing out, it, it is the way.

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Yeah.
And so like with blockchain,there's no urgency.
But with ai, like there is ahuge urgency.
And we were talking before thiscall, like, how's, every day you
wake up, you feel like you'rethree months behind of how much
has came out and how much hasdeveloped.
Cuz this thing is teachingitself and it's all open source
so everyone's working on it.
So it's like there is ever atime to like drop everything in
your life and go full focus monkmode on business.

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It is right now.
Cuz this is likedisproportionate advantages are
being made right now.
A hundred percent.
Dude, I you, I totally agree.
So, alright, so tell me howyou're using, I know you've, you
talked a little bit about howyou're using Shit.
Super chat.
Chat.
What did you Yeah, no, but youcalled it something else.

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Oh, auto, G p t Auto gpt.
Yeah.
Yeah, So, so how are you, otherthan that, how are you using AI
in your business currently?
How are you harnessing that?
Yeah, so obviously like theeveryday person, just like
writing emails, writing my videoscripts, like giving me ideas,
taking from a blank piece ofpaper to like giving me a
starting points.
But like the main business thatwe're pursuing with AI is we

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have a friend who has a mortgagelending company and he's our age
28, absolutely crushing it.
And we are just gonna go throughevery aspect of that business
and just find like, okay,customer support, this can be
done by auto G P T.
Okay.
Loan processing.
This can be done by, this couldbe helped or assisted by an AI
or GPT four oh, listening totheir phone call.

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Well, instead of the bankerhaving to type in what the
person's saying to check iftheir loan qualifies,
automatically entering thatdata, automatically qualifying
them, getting like voicesentiment, just taking their
existing software, which isalready way out of date, making
a better user interface.
And then intertwining ai, everysingle touchpoint we found 12.
And then just focusing on makingthat as good as possible.

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Testing it with him.
Once we see that his likeemployees are choosing to use
this other than the other way,then we'll take it to market.
But we're focusing reallyheavily on making the best
product possible as efficientlyas possible with as much AI as
possible, but without having toadd any extra steps, if that
makes sense.
So that's our main AI business.
And then I do see Web three,like I said, that's like my

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actual business.
We have a web three agency.
We work basically help the topbrands in the world integrate
Web three or NFTs into theirbusiness.
We have two Fortune 1000 clientsright now where we literally
just go through like.
What is the best thing they canbe doing to future-proof their
brand by offering these, it'scalled like interoperability.
The cool thing about NFTs isthat like if you buy one, I

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guess typically if you make anaccount on like a store right
now, so say you go to nike.com,you make an account, you put
your email password in, WhatNike does is they take that
email password and then they buydata from Facebook.
Then they buy data from Amazon.
And anywhere you've used thatemail password or your name or
your address, they then makelike a profile of you that they

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hold internally.
Where NFTs, now if you have thatany, you can make an
nft@nike.com.
But now any other business canjust see that you have an NFT
for nike.com.
So they know you're a Nikecustomer, where typically it had
to be sold on the backend by thebig companies and only they had
that privilege.
Now it democratizes the data foreverybody and with AI data is

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the new oil.
And so that's like what'svaluable.
And so NFTs make it so you cansee every person's interest
without having to know theirpersonal information, which is
really small, but like it'sgonna be really important in the
future.
Where right now, like.
These companies know where I amat all times.
They know what time I eat duringthe day.
They're gonna send me a DoorDashnotification at 6:34 PM on a

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Tuesday, cuz they know onaverage that's when I eat.
And they're gonna send me alittle Caesar's pizza message on
Thursdays.
Cause they know I like to getpizza on Thursdays.
Like it's disgusting how muchthey know about us.
And so NFTs are really going tolike, protect us from that.
But it's just a matter of peoplewaking up and decide that,
deciding that to be a need.
And so we help these big brandslike understand that's where

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we're gonna go.
Then how can they offer thoseinteroperable assets to their
audience in a more fair way, Iguess is the best way to put it.
All right.
So you're saying, so, alright,so I, understand the tracking, I
understand the marketing to us.
I understand the invasiveness ofit.
And, but you're saying that if.

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You do every, that will preventsome of that is what you're
saying?
Yeah.
So think about it this way, likewhen you, do you have your, have
you ever run Facebook ads oranything like that?
Sure.
Yeah.
So when you run Facebook ads,you're basically targeting
people on an interest group.
That's right.
And so Facebook is like trackingyour search history.
And so say you looked up likewhat's the best streaming
platform?
Netflix, Hulu, or Disney plusyou're looking for all three to

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find the best one, and then youchoose Disney plus.
Well, if I'm running an ad, I'mgonna put an ad and I'm selling
a Netflix pillow, I'm gonna wantto target people who are Netflix
users.
But on Facebook, you targetpeople who are interested in
Netflix.
So though they searched Netflix,but Disney plus your ad would
still be shown to them becausethey searched Netflix.

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And so if it's an NFT.
You would know 100% for a fact,this person is a Netflix
customer because the N F T is intheir wallet and their wallet is
not tied to their personalinformation.
You don't need to put your name,email, password, address, credit
card into your wallet.
It's just an anonymous walletwith like 30 numbers.
And you know this wallet has anN F T from Netflix, so you know

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their Netflix customer, I'mgonna run ads to that wallet.
Whereas Facebook, it's like theyhave to like buy data from all
the different platforms cuzthey're like single centralized
verticals that don'tcommunicate.
So NFTs and blockchain are likethat horizontal communication
layer where you can use one N FT on any platform and anybody
can see it through that walletand not their personal

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information, if that makessense.
That's fascinating.
So applying it to your, like allof your data, your name,
address, and whatever, youremail, it's just to this
anonymous wallet.
So that's gonna, you know, soobviously that's gonna hurt hurt
the, amount of money that theselarger Facebook you know Google

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that aggregate all this data andtarget that, that's gonna, how
are they?
Not that I care, right?
I don't care how they're gonnamitigate.
Ok.
So what's your opinion of cryptoand NFTs, or what would you
think the average person is?
How did you start thisconversation?
People are scared.
People don't like it.
People don't want to.
Why?
Because the most powerful peoplethat this technology disrupts,
control the media.

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They have a billion dollars topush that message into the
world.
And so That's right.
They're gonna do everything intheir power to keep their power.
So that's my like, assumptionof, people hate the word NFTs.
Like when I go on the street andpeople are like, what do you do?
I'm like, NFTs.
They're like, oh, those arescam.
Those are like really bad.
That's don't, like, they won'teven like talk to me anymore.
I'm like, I don't know.
I made millions of dollarsthrough this and this

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technology's pretty cool.
It's like honestly reallyhelpful to you.
I don't know why you're soscared of it if you just took 10
minutes to try to understand it.
So that's my conspiracy theory.
I guess I look, I That makes,yeah, that makes sense.
Dude, I look, I can go to downthe conspiracy theory route all
day long, but most of them aretrue.
They're not even Yes.

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Shit.
It's like this is actuallydesigned to help you.
This probably the most helpfullike consumer-friendly
technology ever existed andevery consumer has been tricked
into hating it because ofwhatever propaganda.
Most people get into it for thewrong reason.
I think they're gonna get richoff of Bitcoin, which, right,
it's not like the coreprinciple, but since they are
financial assets, that's wherehumans go.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes, go ahead.
I will add one more thing aboutNFTs, cuz this, I'm like a nerd
and I love NFTs and they're notpopular.
But since we're here, I canhopefully educate new audience.
AI and NFTs go hand in hand.
My last video on YouTube talkedabout this with AI and deep
fakes.
Like I could generate a photo ofyou.
Committing a crime, doinganything right now, and it would

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look like 99% real.
Very soon it's gonna be 1000%indistinguishable.
The AI photo of Trump gettingarrested went super viral.
Everybody thought it happened.
It was ai.
So that's a huge problem.
And so that's already a hugeproblem on Twitter.
And so Twitter has switchedtheir verification system from
just celebrities to now anybodywith a credit card because

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they're trying to prove who is ahuman on their platform.
And so they do that by Ty, thename on your credit card to the
name on your account, and thenthey verify you are a human that
way.
If you're a human and you tweetand it's tied to your real name,
you're not gonna post deep fakesaround people, cuz you'll get
like liable slander.
You'll get sued out the ass,your credibility will be lost.
And so proving that we're humanis the only way to fight

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DeepFakes cuz we're never gonnabe able to tell what's AI
content like.
That is just the reality.
I looked into it for hours.
There is no way to prove what'sai and what's not.
So the thing we have to do isprove human.
Content.
A human posted this.
And so that works on Twitter,but you have to pay$8.
How do we do it for the rest ofthe internet?

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Cause we're not gonna pay forevery single website just to
prove that we're human.
And so the answer is NFTs.
We need digital IDs where youbasically scan your eyeball and
then you get a digital id.
That's ahor.
Remember I said NFTs?
With a horizontal communicationlayer, these NFTs can be used on
every single website in onewallet without disclosing your

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personal information, but stillproving that you're a human.
And so the founder of Chat, G Pt, Sam Altman created this in
2019 as well.
So it's called World id.
So that's gonna be huge as well.
So I definitely recommend peoplelook into Web three and ai cuz
it's the future, ladies andgentlemen.
That's really cool, man.
That's, really good information.
And I think a lot of peopleprobably be freaked out with the

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whole I thing, but you explainedthat really well and, if they
really pay attention to listento what you said, it does make
sense, right?
I mean, Yeah.
Cause the alternative is likethe government's making a
digital id.
We already know how inefficientthe governments are and they're
gonna use any chance they can tohave power overreach.
When we look at the airportsafter nine 11, like these are

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tactics they use to gain morecontrol to use in their whenever
they want to.
Very specifically, verytargeted.
And so just for them to be ableto make digital IDs, since
they're digital, means they'renow programmable.
And if you break a rule, they'regonna blacklist your id.
Now you can't use the internetnow.
You can't travel and it'sautomatic.
You can't do anything aboutthat.
And as a human right, that's notgood.
And so that's why this, that'swhy you want an f t IDs because

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they focus on the privacy.
And I know it sounds scary toput your eyeball into the
system, but whether it's youreyeball, your thumbprint or
whatever, like thumbprints, likeburn your face gets old, so you
can't use a face scan.
They can also get like plasticsurgery.
So eyeballs don't change overtime.
They're super quick,noninvasive, and a camera on
your laptop can scan it.
And so these people have spent along time researching it.

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So eyeball is the best.
And then if you're usingblockchain and NFTs, it's fully
anonymous.
And so they're not, you're notputting your eyeball and then
putting your name, address,email, and everything.
You're just scanning youreyeball.
Everybody's eyeball is unique.
Your eyeball is now registered.
And so it's like the data pointsof your eyeball are your profile
proving that you're human, butit doesn't say your name or your

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address or anything.
The only point we're trying toprove is that you're human.
And then you have an ID numberthat matches your eyeball.
And so when you present yourdigital id, it'll just say
you're human number 1,845,000.
It's that you scan your eyeballmatch, great.
And if you lose it, you justscan your eyeball again and you
get it back.
So it's like they really thoughtit through.

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Well, you know, news slasheverybody, like guess what?
Whenever you're going to awebsite and like guess the
camera knows when your eyeslight up.
Now, like if you're going on a,like a cheap caribbean.com or
Travelocity, there's a reasonwhy if you didn't click on
anything, they're serving youthe thing that you absolutely

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wanted to click on because theycan facial expressions and micro
expressions and you're like,they already have all that shit
mapped out.
Just not like I I have a friendwho worked at Mattel, I guess I
probably shouldn't say thecompany, whatever, but they
literally, if you went on theirwebsite, they were tracking your
eyes and doing a heat map ofwhat you were looking at on your

(23:56):
camera and it didn't have like alight on, you didn't know your
camera was on, but they wereallowed to do that for a window
of time where they could trackyour eye movement.
And so like they would send youtargeted ads.
And so like this is a completehuge data overreach, but no one
cares people's like convenience.
And that's the thing.
And, yeah, you're right, ahundred percent right.
And, I believe, you know, not toget too much into the last few

(24:19):
years, but like, I think that alot of the stuff that happened
over the last few years was,the, you know, I think it was
the suppression of a lot ofthings.
And, I believe that, you know,we stuck inside for so long and
everything's shut down.
Like you're more willing tolike, give up more shit just to

(24:42):
be normal.
I think best run, I think theywere like pushing it to see what
they could get, away with andget people to do.
Yeah.
And I think that this, they'regonna use this to push their
centralized version of digitalIDs and cbdc digital money so
they can have more control.
And again, it's not like someconspiracy, like that just makes
sense for people that are at thehighest level if they want to
make a safe society.
Like you can easily justify howyou have good intentions even at

(25:05):
that level.
But for people that are likeself-aware and relatively
successful in life, like.
That might be good for 70% ofthe population, but we should at
least have a choice.
Like, it's just way too muchpower.
And so I just think that'simportant for people to really
understand that's what'sactually happening.
And it's not some conspiracy,whether you think it's good or
bad, it's a differentconversation.

(25:25):
But if there's two options, youcan still achieve the same
result, but with a anonymity.
And it's like self custody.
We should definitely try to pushfor that route.
But again, the people with powerhave billions of dollars and own
the platforms, push theirnarrative.
So it's gonna be an interestingfight.
Yeah, it is.
And you know that, you know, thenarrative's gonna change back.
You know, it's it's just, it'sall really fascinating.

(25:48):
Cause a lot of these things thatwe taught were conspiracies.
They're not really, they're notreally conspiracies.
Like we were seeing stuff playout in real time.
Like they're writing articlesabout it, like, they're like
public about it.
Just no one cares.
So it's like, it's not aconspiracy, it's just the way
people positioned it, I guess.
But well think about this.
Posting articles.
Yeah, so here's, so think aboutthis here, like this was well

(26:08):
thought through.
And what I mean by that is, youknow, human psychology It,
doesn't change, right?
Human beings are gonna do whathuman beings do.
So if you have that 30,000 footview of how human beings
interact with X, Y, and Z on aregular basis, then you kind of
know how to position yourself tomake it go the way you want it

(26:32):
to go.
Right?
Because we're gonna, we'recreatures of habit.
We're gonna do the same shitover and over.
And you know it's real easy.
I mean, I, to psychologicallymanipulate, or hundred percent
persuade or whatever you wannacall it, and it's al and it's
been happening for years.
Like back in the day, it wasjust, there was only like 10 TV
channels or a few magazines thatmillions of people read.

(26:53):
And so that's how they weredoing it.
And it puts these ideas inpeople's heads and then they go
talk to their friends.
Like, we're just like mimeticcreatures.
We mime what we see.
It's how kids learn.
And so now it's like thesefamilies have been in control
for hundreds of years.
They're passing down themethods, the tactics, how they
do it, and then they have thesemachines.
And so how you.
I don't know, propaganda is abad word, but how you like kind

(27:15):
of train people through publicsocial media is just changed,
but it's also exactly the same.
The medium has changed,basically, but that's it.
Ai, I think AI scares them.
I think AI does scare them.
I would agree with that.
Yeah.
Because Yeah, cuz it's somethingthat you really, I mean, yes, I
would I, don't think I'll saythis like in a Terminator way,

(27:37):
but a Terminator came out like20 years ago, whatever, how long
it was like, yeah.
You know, that stuff's like kindof coming into Right.
It's not too far, off.
Yeah.
Well, here's another thing thatI realized the other day.
I'm I, realized that I reallydidn't expect us to go down this
route, but I, there was a movieand I can't even remember the
name of it, but John Kuzak wasin it.
I'm sure you know exactly whatI'm talking about.

(27:59):
It came out far before thispandemic ever hit, like a year
or two.
Oh yeah, I know what I'm talkingabout.
That's, why, yeah.
Yes.
How nuts is that?
How, about the train derailmentin Palestine, Ohio?
There was a movie on ne, haveyou seen that?
There was a movie on ne you knowwhat I'm talking about?
The Ohio?
I know that's train.
Yeah, They made a movie that atrain derailed in Palestine,

(28:20):
Ohio.
Like dead serious.
The same city.
It's on Netflix.
Look it up like, it's like sofreaky.
The city to the T.
Do you think that like, yeah.
Oh, like I we're clearly on thesame page with this.
Like, what?
I'm wondering, do you think it'sthat we live in such a busy
world?

(28:41):
I mean, think about this.
If you, know, I don't mess withTikTok because of the data.
Whatever they, already have it.
That no one should ever haveTikTok on their, on your phone.
They can read all your, that'syour messages.
Look at all your photos, listento all your calls and your
location.
You give them permission for afree app.
Heads up to anyone who knowthat.
That's right.
A hundred percent.
Where was I going with that?

(29:02):
With like Ade Ohio, the peoplelike making Netflix shows.
Yeah.
So like if you think about it,we live in like, probably like a
1.5 to two second World.
Like it's not even a threesecond world.
It sure as hell not an eightsecond world, which what it used
to be.
So you think about that.
How many, like, do you remembera single post from somebody else
from last week?

(29:22):
I, don't no, that's, this is aninteresting topic cuz I'm
actually a little optimistic.
This is like, the optimist in mewith AI is I have never, I grew
up with the internet.
I was like the first class ofelementary school with computers
and the internet in our school.
So I've never not had it.
And with that being said, we'vealways had phones in our pockets
and we've always had thisability, like if someone is

(29:43):
doing something dumb and youwanna embarrass'em, pull up your
phone and record likeimmediately my whole life.
And so that has completely atscale changed the way humans
behave in public.
Like, my dad is 60, I'm surewhen he was like 20, he could
say whatever the sh whatever theheck he wanted to, he could do,
like, he could do anything.
And the worst thing that couldhappen is five people were there
to witness it, right?
Where now if you do somethingstupid, you fight whatever you

(30:04):
get, you start yelling.
You could get viral and get 10million views and everyone sees
you and your reputation's shotforever.
And people will pull that up infive years from now and not work
with you.
And so the one optimistic thingis that now we can say that was
fake.
That was that's, deep fake,that's ai.
That wasn't me.
So it might give you a littlebit more comfortability and
freedom in public to lower yourguard a little bit.

(30:26):
Not to say you should go do wildthings and use that, but at
least it's like, I think it'sgonna give us some sort of
freedom back in that senseinstead of like a complete
surveillance state in a way.
It's almost like a builtinalibi.
Exactly.
So it's like, that's like my oneoptimistic, like I'm kind of
excited about that.
Cause I've never had thatfeeling at any time.
I've always had overlooked myshoulder since I'm like a public

(30:47):
figure.
If I do something, people, evenif it's like, not even bad, but
they could take it outtacontext.
If I'm at a club or somethingand people don't, whatever, I'm
an entrepreneur.
It's like you're just notallowed to fully like enjoy
yourself in public.
So that's the optimist in me.
That's fascinating.
Yeah.
I never really, I didn't look atit quite like that, but I
understand what you're sayingabout, you know, you do.

(31:08):
I have to, you have to watcheverything.
Like I have to watch everything.
Yeah.
You've seen the change probably.
You probably remember a timewhere that wasn't as common.
Dude.
Like I, I'm 45 years old.
Like we barely even had acomputer when I was in
elementary school.
Got like we had one room thathad like two computers in it.
How, I mean, that's completelynuts.
But I'll tell you, and maybethat's.
That's part of the reason Ithink that I absolutely love AI

(31:32):
as much as I do, because I neverreally had, I was always the guy
who would be like, yeah, I don'treally understand.
You know I, can understandcomputers, but not to the
degree.
Like, like I understand themnow.
This is given me, it's like awhole new education.
And the great thing is it's so,like, it's way simpler now.
Like you don't need to have adeep understanding.
Like, I don't know how to code,I don't know anything, but I

(31:52):
know what an API is.
I know that I could just need toget an API code and then plug it
in, and now they made theproduct for me and now I just
can use it and rebrand it for aspecific use case.
And that's a huge opportunity.
So it's just now it's mycreativity and combining two
different things, bring'emtogether in one and then adding
value to the market that way.
Yeah, that's way better.

(32:12):
Way better.
Way better.
I wanna make a website one hourjust start texting, like make
this blue.
Like move this over here.
Yeah.
Connect Shopify.
Connect stripe.
Well I think now you can evenspeak into it like you can even,
right.
You can just talk into thecomputer and it will build.
Yeah.
And so kind of what we weretalking about earlier, like
obviously learning how to codeand knowing how to like optimize

(32:35):
and like order things anddatabases and all that shit.
Like that's gonna be anadvantage cuz you're gonna be
able to like, make it way moreoptimally, way more quicker with
your voice.
But now you don't have to go toGitHub, copy and paste each
piece and section it yourself.
You just tell it what to do andit's gonna do it better than you
could even if you tried.
Yeah.
So I was talking you izedeverything.
Yeah, dude and Yeah, a hundredpercent.

(32:57):
And I think people like you andI are in a unique position,
right?
I work from home so I have, youknow, I have time, right?
I have time that I can burn updoing this, just like you said.
And it's not really burning up,but.
It's if you don't, you know, ifyou are, if you do work a normal
job, which I haven't worked anormal job in, well over a
decade.

(33:18):
Yeah.
So like I, you know, I, I don'tknow what people I, would say
it's more urgent for them.
This is the next video I'mmaking.
Like it has never been a scariertime to be an employee, cuz that
is what our like societyteaches.
Go to college, get a degree, geta job.
That's success.
Your company, your founder doesnot like he cares about you.
But when he has to like goagainst other people who are

(33:38):
making 80% budget cuts cuzthey're using AI objectively.
If he wants to survive, he'sgonna have to cut you too.
And so if you're an employee,you need to be the one learning
how to use auto G P T learninghow to replace your job.
And so like those copywritersand they're gonna fire nine
outta the 10.
So you can be the one thatdoesn't get fired.
You need to be the one thatunderstands it.

(33:59):
You need to be the one thattries to replace yourself first,
proactively, or else it's gonnahappen in a year.
And you're gonna be sitting onyour hands.
That is the best piece of adviceyou could have given people.
Like, really I get this urgentpeople.
Like I just, I can't expressthis enough.
This is not one of those thingsthat you can just be like, oh,
it's a fad.
Oh it's a scam.
Oh, it's not really thatimpressive.
It's impressive.
It's gonna take your job, makesure you're the one that front

(34:21):
runs that, because then you'regonna get a bonus and you're
gonna be better off in yourcompanies.
A hundred percent dude andupright world.
And you can be that person.
Like, and I think that's where alot of people get, you know,
fear overtakes people.
They don't want to, they don'twanna move on.
No I, be excited.
Like, just be excited.
Yeah.
Frame of mind.
Be optimistic, be excited.

(34:41):
Show your coworkers.
Show your boss.
Like this is really cool.
I think this could help us.
And they'll support you.
They'll probably let you likefocus on that for a little bit
or allocate some time duringyour day.
Like, don't be like secretive.
Make it a group effort and justhave fun with it.
Cause it is really cool.
It is, it's unreal.
It's really unreal.
All right, so what, alright, so,you know web three also
encompasses like gaming andstuff, right?

(35:04):
Yeah.
So what, talk about that for aminute.
What are you doing in thatspace?
Are you doing anything in thatspace?
When, this is what I wanna say,if you've ever asked somebody
what is an N F T, most peopleare going to explain it to you
in the context in which theyunderstand it.
But again, NFTs can be anything.
It's just a new vehicle todeliver assets.
So like a car title would be anN F T or a house deed would be

(35:27):
an N F T.
But you could also do like aRolex, like every Rolex comes
with a piece of paper.
That verifies, this is a realauthentic Rolex that should be
an N F T.
But then in game items, like ifyou work really hard in a video
game, you earn like this coollike texture, the skin on your
gun so you look cool in thegame.
That can be an N F T that youown because since you put 20 to
30 hours into this game, youshould be able to own that and

(35:50):
then sell that on a free marketto someone like you and me, who
was too busy running ourbusinesses, learning about AI to
play 30 hours of a video game.
But we do like to play it drunkon a weekend for one hour with
our friends and I wanna lookcool cause I got a lot of money.
So it's like I would rather paythat one person who spent 30
hours to earn it and then I canjust buy it in an hour for like
30 bucks.
He makes 30 bucks.
Cause the high school kid, he'sgonna get a McDonald's meal and

(36:11):
be happy.
I'm gonna be stoked cause I lookdope when I play with my friends
for the one hour of the weekend.
And so the NFTs just make it soyou own the endgame items and
that's just something thatpeople see everywhere.
And again, it's interoperable soyou can earn this gun in this
game.
Then you could go to pizzahut.com and they can say,
anybody who owns this Gold Gunin Call of Duty gets 20% off

(36:31):
pizza this week.
And it's super easy to do andit's automatic.
So that's what I think is reallycool.
I call that decentralizedpermissionless brand.
Collaborations probably thebiggest deal in NFTs.
That's super cool.
It's like a rewards programwhere like, say you're like a
great clips, like a haircut andlike your sports franchise, like
a ba, like the Chicago Bears.
Chicago Bears, like marketingteam will reach out to Great

(36:53):
Clips, let's do a partnership.
Okay, what are the terms?
That's like a two month longprocess.
Then they get the terms, thenthey have to go to their
development team, put it intheir apps.
It's like a six month process,no more.
Now, if they have an N F T forPizza Hut or Great Clips and the
Chicago Bears, anyone who has aChicago Bears, N F T, great
Clips can just put it on theirwebsite, connect to your wallet,
to our website.

(37:13):
You get 20% off your haircutthis week.
Don't even need to talk to theother people.
Don't even need to do anythingdevelopment wise.
It's like two clicks to set upand it's just perfect marketing
that any company can benefitfrom.
So, cool.
That's a long answer fromgaming, but gaming is just, you
own the game of the items in thegame actually, instead of just
putting it in there and thenyou're done.
I was thinking more of like acomp from a competition

(37:35):
standpoint and there's, a more,there's a real question behind
it, but I can't get into that.
But I'm fascinated with theability to use gamification.
For rewards.
In a way that self-governedpeople in, let's just say in a

(37:58):
business for example.
Yeah.
Does that make sense?
So that's, yeah.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
That's kind of with my fortune,like with our big clients for my
agency, like that's what wepitch.
We don't pitch like a profilepicture like this N F T, that's
gonna make you money.
It's like a loyalty rewardsprogram where they have this N F
T and they can earn points orcomplete tasks, and then they
get another like badge they canput on their profile.

(38:19):
And so it's just like a way tolike track who is like
supporting the brand, whetherthey engage with social media,
whether they take moments tolearn about the brand, whether
they share it on social media orwhether they spend a lot of
money.
You can track all of that backto one N F T.
And then based on that, you givethem different rewards, badges
or whatever that they can thenshow in their public profile.
Same thing with work likeemployee of the month would be a

(38:41):
good way to do that.
If everybody's work, ID is an NF T, you can track how much
output you did.
You can track how much youworked with other teammates.
How many meetings you attended,did you go above and beyond.
They can track all that.
And now you have like a digitallike profile that you can show
off and they can start rewardingtheir best employees.
And so the other 1000 employeescan like, oh, this person got a
promotion because he had sevengold badges in a row.

(39:02):
Like really creative ways youcan use it.
But again, we're so new thatpeople's imaginations haven't
been open to that yet.
Yeah.
So's that's, I'm Explore, I'm,that's part of what we're,
working on.
And it's like, It's fuckingdope, dude.
I'm super excited about it.
So you, also get, you know, youthe people that, like you used

(39:23):
the example with Pizza Hut andgrape clips.
If if I'm able to tell you aboutit and I get, you know, whatever
the, reward, the payout is,right, I'm gonna tell everybody
to go and use these things.
So now you've got aself-propelled lead gen company.
That's exactly, You nailed it.
That's exactly the biggestbenefit.

(39:44):
NFTs like, it blendsstakeholders, shareholders, and
like customers.
Cuz now you have like thisintermediary, like financial
asset essentially.
And then if the company doeswell, that asset goes up in
value.
And so it's like kind ofaligning the incentives of the
consumer and the brand.
It's really powerful.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, because I, yeah, andyeah, I get it.

(40:06):
It's it is super.
It's, fascinating to me.
The only thing I'll say withNFTs to anyone listening to
this, if you have like there's,that is way too much to learn
about that.
And ai, if it's today, rightnow, learn about ai, cause that
will have immediate impact forNFTs and web three.
We still need like a criticalmass.
We still need it to be like thesocietal norm, and that's just
gonna take time.
The technology's clunky.

(40:27):
It'll get there in like three tofive years, but AI is here now
and ready to go.
So definitely put energy intoai.
But if you have a few hours atthe end of your day where you're
like dead and you just wannalearn, definitely start paying
attention to the mechanics ofblockchain.
What NFTs really are, I don'teven, you don't need to focus on
crypto, just focus on NFTs andblockchain.
Those two are really like whatis actually gonna impact your
day-to-day life here in a fewyears.

(40:48):
So how quickly do you think howquickly do you think we're gonna
see the well, I'm sure we'realready seeing people lose their
jobs.
Like, like copywriting is agreat example.
How, quickly do you see thataffecting mo a lot of
industries?
Yeah.
So I am, like, my first thoughtafter I made that a p i video

(41:10):
that got really popular was thatthis is gonna threaten
capitalism very seriously.
Like it is going to be aproblem.
This might force communism,which is the perfect snowball
into the digital IDs and digitaldollar.
Cuz it's like perfect universalbasic income distribution and
welfare and there's no fraud.
Cause they actually did that inIndia, by the way.
They do digital IDs throughIndia and it eliminated 5

(41:31):
billion in welfare fraud.
But, sorry, side note China toyou I, think it's gonna be like,
I think this year, like by theend of the year.
People will be very aware thatlike they're gonna start
getting, like, I am on thechopping block.
Like this stuff is developed.
I think, I don't think with AIcoding, I don't think it's gonna
take more than six months for usto roll out our project.

(41:52):
And I know there's people thathave already been thinking ahead
of this before the big hypecycle, and so I would say six to
12 months is like, people are,it's gonna be a really real
thing.
But I do think it'll take two orthree years to like, like work
out the kinks to get to likemajority of the workforce at
least.
But the superficial jobs, likeartists, copywriting, all that.
Yeah.
That's six to 12 months.

(42:13):
Like almost irrelevant.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
Art, you know, is, it'sinteresting because it's like
artists now, a lot of them have,they're taking their artistic
ability and they're just,they're moving it into the
digital world, which is cool.
They should.
And they absolutely should.
It's fascinating to me.
I.
Mid journey and I haven't reallymessed with Dolly and I haven't

(42:35):
really messed with MidJourney's, way better than
Dolly.
So I would, it's less clunky tome it's a lot less, it's more
user friendly in my opinion.
A hundred percent.
And it's only in Discord, like,wait until they get a web app,
like it's gonna be everything.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean I'm surprised that actsnot, hasn't already happened,
but I, suppose that, well maybepeople have like spun off.
Like I, I think Canva has somesort of, it's not Mid Journey.

(42:58):
Yeah, they're all trying, butMid Journey has the brand, they
have like a very specificaesthetic that just looks good.
And I think that they're gonna,and they're on their fifth
version, so they've been at itfor a long time.
So I think that's a pretty goodnote for them.
But I think they can transition,but they have like tens of
millions of people in a Discordserver, which is insane.
Like, yeah, discord is so hardto use if you've never used it
before.
I luckily grew up with it causeI'm a gamer kid, but it is so

(43:19):
complicated.
But still people went throughthat pain.
Imagine if it's just midjourney.com type in go like
everywhere.
So artists embrace it, it'sgonna make art way better, but.
People, humans hate change.
They like to like, make enemiesout of for no reason and like
protect their ego instead ofjust acknowledging, all right,
the last 20 years I've worked onthings, this is now better.

(43:40):
I just need to accept that.
People can't really do that mostof the time.
They're married to their ownideas lots of times.
Yeah.
Their identity.
Yep.
Yeah.
And it's just gonna take youdown if you do that.
I'll just be honest, like it's,really gonna be nuts.
It's really gonna be nuts.
The one piece of advice that SamAltman gives is like, if there's

(44:01):
one skill that is the mostvaluable in the next decade,
it's being willing to adapt,being open to adapt.
Cuz I guarantee you that Chattwas like groundbreaking and
changed everything, but there'sgonna be something that comes
out in the next year that's 20times more like groundbreaking
and it's just gonna likeexponentially.
Just like, how the hell did weoperate three years ago without

(44:22):
these things?
It's slow, that's for sure.
Yeah, that's for, I can't evenimagine something being 20 times
better.
But at this, at the rate thatit's going like that, think
about it.
And this is like, just like thecalculator for writing, like,
right.
And, math.
Like, should we make our kidspull out those old, like I, I
don't know what they're called,man colleges or something.

(44:43):
Well, I don't even know what theterm is, but they literally like
calculators make us better andthey're tools.
But that was like, I think thisis like the first calculator
where it's only like one throughnine and you go and do addition,
subtraction, maybemultiplication, division.
There's calculators now that docalculus and everything.
And so once these like.
Models become multimodal all inone pub where it's like, could
be text, a video, could bevoice, could be anything.

(45:05):
That's when I think that's whatI'm talking about.
Like it's gonna be mind blowingcuz you can literally output a
full on movie if you wanted to.
You can talk to it as you walkdown the street and it'll talk
back to you.
So you don't even need to belooking at your phone.
It's like once something likethe movie her comes around,
which I don't think is far away.
Like we just have theseindividual models that's just
gonna take someone to connectthem all.
And I think stable diffusionwill be one of the first people

(45:26):
to do that.
Well now I think there is somemultimodal models, right?
Yeah.
But they're not as strong asChad g Bt like for sure Chad
gbt.
Like the it's crazy thing is G PT three was like three months
ago.
And then the difference fromthat to GPT four and chat gpt
like.
We won't even, we were waitingto get GT four cause how much
better it was to even train ourmodels for like the last month
and we just got it.

(45:47):
Like it is that much better.
And so that same thing's gonnahappen.
But once you have a chat, G B Tlevel, text to video chat, GBT
level, text to voice, to voice,like conversation all in one
app, like, or like, like a newtype of iPhone.
In a way, that's what it's gonnabe like.
How did we live without this inthe past?
And it's gonna change learningcuz it's gonna know how you
learn.
It's gonna like be yourassistant everywhere you go.

(46:09):
You don't have to like, itsounds so crazy cuz we're lucky
with Google, but like going toGoogle, searching something,
then sifting through three ads,then picking four articles.
Well this article was just amarketing campaign.
They're good at seo, it's fullof fluff.
They're just trying to sell me.
This one's actually like adoctor, so I'm gonna listen to
him.
That's like not hard but, ittakes like 45 seconds where this
AI is gonna do all of that.
Pick the right one for you intwo seconds and you're gonna be

(46:31):
able to have conversation withit.
So you can literally have likeAristotle be your teacher.
Like you'll literally have,instead of going to a middle of
the America Division oneuniversity and learning from
some guy who was like a generalmanager at General Electric or
something who was successful,you're gonna have Elon Musk in
your ear saying this is how Iwould approach things.
And like, it's already happened.

(46:51):
It's so cool.
Well, the data's there, right?
The data is here to do all thosethings.
It's just who's going to get toaggregate the data first, right?
And that's really what we'retalking about as far as, you
know, training models and makingsure that, and that's, you know,
that's one of the things thatwe're involved with is if you

(47:11):
have the data, well, if youdon't have the data, you don't
have anything.
Yeah, exactly.
The data, if you, the data iswhere it's at, period.
The oil, it's the new oil.
That was my major in collegeData analytics.
So I kind of have a goodunderstanding of that field, or
at least enough, and that's whatstable the Fusion's business
model is.
If anyone's listening to this,and you are an entrepreneur and
you're like a free agent, you'relooking for what's to start,
learn stable, diffusion the vidthe text and the image side, and

(47:35):
then learn how to train it.
Very simple to do.
You can learn this in just a fewhours.
Learn how to train it and thenfind a company that's in the
market that you know about, andthen just take their private
data and train the model fortheir business specifically.
That is what Stable Diffusion isdoing.
A hundred billion dollar companythat just started a few years
ago.
They're an AI company.
They're the ones who make, likethere's chat CPT and they're

(47:55):
stable diffusion, like those arethe two big two.
But Stable Diffusion is anonprofit, decentralized, fully
open, and then they have anactual arm where they work with
the Amazons, the Googles, thesehuge companies.
And they just take their dataand train their free model with
that company.
So like learn stable diffusion,how to train it, approach the
companies and then train it withtheir data.

(48:16):
You'll make hundreds ofthousands of dollars every
single year.
Millions if you wanna scale thecompany.
But one person could be doingthis for a whole company.
So that's by far the biggestopportunity in AI right now is
just taking private data andthen training it with these free
models cuz they're available foreverybody, which is nuts.
Like they just gave you theproduct.
It's insane.
Well then if you put it on theblockchain, it's yours.

(48:39):
Boom.
There you go.
Proprietary.
Hundred percent and you can't,and no one will be ever be able
to dispute that.
But no, the service of training,the model for companies very
simple to do.
Just feeding it data.
There's just a specific filetype.
You just go to their website, itcan scrape it all into a file
type if you get good at it.
And then you can literally getoutput specifically in that

(49:00):
industry's terms.
And even in the owner's terms.
Like even in the if, you, yeah,you're, yeah, a hundred percent.
There's an interesting thingthat I'm seeing with this
though, cuz like we were talkingabout the jobs being stolen.
So you still want like doctorsand lawyers as humans to like
overlook things, but like thereason they get paid so much and

(49:20):
what is, cuz they had to go toschool for 12 years to just
memorize so much information.
Well this thing memorizes it allimmediately.
So it's interesting to see.
It makes them all much moreproductive.
So do we start, we already paythem, not like based on.
We pay them hourly, but we'repaying them like$2,000 an hour.
Cause it's not about how long ittakes'em, it's about all of that

(49:40):
built up knowledge.
And so it's interesting, do westart paying those people now
$10,000 an hour?
Because they can do like fivehours worth of work and one hour
with ai and so does that.
I don't think that valuechanges.
And then I can't be a lawyereven though I have that
information.
So you still need to go to lawschool.
So it's kind of like aninteresting one.
But then less people will needyou cuz they can get the basic

(50:02):
information, they can writecontracts.
It's gonna be really interestingto see how it plays out.
So one guy I follow is a hugebeliever that their hourly rate
just goes up because they'restill providing the same
expertise and value in a lessperiod of time.
So that'll be interesting to seebe.
I think that's hopeful though.
For attorneys, especially I, youknow, if they're not, if they're

(50:23):
not learning about this, likethey can be knocked outta the
market in no time.
They, I think they're the firstones, like everything they do is
documented.
Half the time they're goingbefore they're gonna trial.
There's reading past courtdates, so it's like, I just want
an AI with a set up to a speakerto defend me in court at this
point.
Right.
Because he would, probably do abetter job because you take the

(50:45):
human element outta it.
Yeah.
I maybe see, maybe not, maybethe human element, maybe there
is some sort of like theatricsand like the way some lawyers
are emphatic and like persuasivethat maybe that is their edge.
Like that's like the reallyinteresting like human like case
study that I would love to see.
Like, all right, so well but, ifthe judge, right, we did the
human is, it's the judge.
Now, what if the human uses, Imean, the judge, so to speak,

(51:07):
uses whisper, right?
And picks up on sentimentanalysis, which I know you're
fully aware of what that is.
Of course.
Right?
So now the judge is act right?
Cause now the judge has he's notgonna miss anything.
Right?
He's not gonna, there's no humanerror.
That is like, that is scarythough.
Like going like, imagine you didsomething and you're going up
against an AI judge.

(51:28):
It's like I.
Fuck.
Like, yeah, caught red handed.
Even if all, like, cuz there'sso many like subjective details
of a crime.
Like what were the incentives?
What were the motives?
Were you caught in anunfortunate situation?
And a judge kinda has to make ajudgment call, even if on paper
it looks the same.
So it's like that would beheartless.
Just to see an AI be like, youfit, you check every box.

(51:48):
This person did this, you getthis, you're in jail.
Well if an, well, if you're anattorney, you'll have that
whisper for set up in youroffice when you're interviewing
the person and you'll knowexactly what if they did it or
not, because you can, there'sall kinds of data.
Points.
Points.
He's lie detector.
Yeah.
These are like lie detectors atthis point with the sentiment
analysis.
We have that for the real estatecompany we work with.
And it's crazy like, have youseen the face cams?

(52:12):
Like people can do a camera andthere's like a circle of like,
happy, sad like it's like happy,sad, and then it's like, Excited
or low, like high energy or lowenergy.
Yeah.
And as they're talking, it'slike just moving constantly.
It's so crazy.
Like, that's scary.
Cause China's doing that rightnow with their whole society.
Like they have the digital id,social credit score, and face

(52:32):
scans.
Well, ironically, that's kindwhat got me into this, was that
I had start paired up with a guythat wound up to be a loser.
And but, he's got the, he's gotthis software that was just, it
was next level, facialexpression, e everything.
And I was enamored by it.
Like, it was like, holy shit, itwas really slow.

(52:54):
It's not, you know, one-to-onegreat.
Right.
And, but outside of that I'm nota one-to-one guy.
Like, I brought tens ofthousands of people and you just
couldn't, like, can't, youcouldn't do it.
Yeah.
And so it fell apart.
They're clunky right now.
That's really like, it's there,there's glimmers of it, but
things are gonna get reallyoptimized really fast.

(53:16):
It's just, Like we can'tcomprehend it.
Like that's like, no, thehardest thing about AI is like,
I think, I feel like I know whatI'm doing.
I'm on YouTube.
I look like an expert, but like,I have no idea what the hell's
really going on, and I'm justtrying to piece things together.
That makes sense to me.
Yeah, totally.
Well, Brent it's, been a greatconversation.
Yeah.
This is awesome.

(53:36):
Yeah.
So where Is there anything elseyou wanna, you want to drop some
knowledge on it where, first ofall, tell everybody obviously
where they can find you and thenmaybe some of the things that
you're doing where they can goand check out some of the things
that you're doing also online.
Yeah, I think we already gavethem information overload, so
we'll halt it there.
If you wanna learn, like ifbasically everything I talked

(53:59):
about in different sections arelike literally different videos
I've made and the reason I knowit is cause I researched them
for those videos.
So if you wanna go watch likeeach one of those thoughts in
depth, it's my YouTube channel,Brett Malinowski.
If you want like AI businessideas or like what I call
Businesses of the future that'sour website, wgm i media.com.
We have articles on alldifferent, like business
opportunities, how you should bethinking about it, web three,

(54:20):
ai, everything.
So just those two.
Brett Malinowski on YouTube, ifyou can't spell my last name,
just like Brett ai Sure it'llpop up.
And then w g I Media, if youwanna check out articles and
different opportunities.
You know, and I'll, just followup on that.
Like, I could tell you, likeBrett does bring the latest and
greatest, the latest andgreatest stuff.
Like that's where I've learned,you know, a lot about some of

(54:40):
the tools that I currently usewas from you.
And so, you know it would, I sawyou got fireflies in here.
I saw you got fireflies in hereright now.
It's the best thing in theworld, dude.
Oh my God.
Like, yeah, it's unreal, right?
It just that, that's a greatexample.
One little small tool rightthere.
It, changes the game, it changesSave you hours a day if you have

(55:02):
to log calls and go back and tryto remember what people Yeah.
Does it all for you.
Single handedly.
The most important for internal,our organization.
Like I would have an assistanton this call right now and she
would remind me, cause I havesix different meetings going on,
six different deliverables.
Do I need to send this personmore information?
Do I need to sign the contracthere?
Done Firefly, just search it.

(55:23):
Right there.
It's so helpful and it's sosubtle.
Yeah.
I love it, dude.
Well, Brett, thank you brother.
I appreciate it, man.
This has been great.
Of course, Corey, thanks forhaving me.
That was a really funconversation.
Genuinely enjoyed that.
Absolutely.

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