September 1, 2023 • 41 mins
Prepare to be astonished as I take you through an extraordinary weekend that completely redefined my life - the Revolt Retreat. Let's dive deep into an event filled with camaraderie, transformation, and indescribable impact. Join me as I recount the moments that left me speechless and share profound insights that continue to resonate within me, altering the course of my life forever.
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Corey Berrier (00:01):
Welcome to the Successful Life Podcast.
I'm your host, Corey Berrier,and I'm here with Hunter Ballew.
What's up Hunter?
Hunter Ballew (00:08):
What's up man?
Glad to be here.
Great
Corey Berrier (00:10):
to see you my friend.
I wore my revolt shirt today'cause I wanted to represent,
appreciate.
I saw I you wore anybody else'sshirt on this show.
I'm not gonna lie to
Hunter Bellew (00:18):
you.
I appreciate you.
I saw that dude.
Look, I.
I'm not
Corey Berrier (00:24):
A member of Revolt, but that was the
probably the most powerful eventor most powerful weekend I think
I've ever spent somewhere in mylife.
And I'm like, I mean that, like,it was the comradery.
It's just, I, it's reallywithout words.
It's hard
Hunter Bellew (00:43):
to explain
Corey Berrier (00:45):
what you put together inside a revolt.
Can you tell everybody a littlebit about that?
And I, I told you we were gonnastart this differently, and then
I just fucking quit theopposite.
Hunter Bellew (00:56):
It's all good, man.
No.
I love hearing you say that,man.
And I, I get the opportunity tohear that a lot, but what makes
it special from you is that Iwasn't even the one running that
retreat, right.
I mean, that's right.
You remember I showed up for oneexercise the end of that first
full day for the firesidetransformation.
(01:16):
And so that was one of theretreats where we let a team
member run it.
One of our right hand guys, aguy that's been with me for
years now, since 2019, beencoming to the events we've been
putting on, been helping me andjust been one of my best
friends.
That's so super cool to hear yousay that.
I wasn't even the guy runningit.
Maybe even if I'm being honest,like a little bit of ego hit
(01:36):
'cause I'm like, damn, it wasthat good and I wasn't even the
one running it.
No, but no, for real, that is asuper cool to, to see that.
And now, we've, since thatretreat, seeing that it worked
and seeing that people werestill impacted We've rolled out
a coaching program and so now wehave coaches within Revolt, a
dozen coaches within Revolt.
Michael runs'em at the end ofAugust.
(01:57):
None of the staff is gonna berunning the retreat.
We're gonna have like ourvideographer there and our ops
guy, but none of the staff willbe there to run the retreat.
It's literally just members thathave come in and become coaches
now will be running the retreat.
So it's cool to see theevolution of it.
And part of that man is like wepreach legacy all the time.
And if Hunter dies tomorrow, ifI die tomorrow, I don't want
(02:19):
this thing to end.
I know that we're still able toimpact people.
And I tell people all the time,my mission, my life mission
statement personally is todevelop millions of leaders that
impact billions of lives.
And so at some point I have tojust get out of the way and let
other people lead.
So really cool to hear you saythat in terms of what revolt is.
It started back in 2019 under adifferent name.
(02:40):
It was actually called Bold.
And then that next year wechanged it to Revolt'cause we
wanted it to encompass more.
And the core values areintegrity, leadership, legacy.
So we always say, We're bringingtogether high integrity business
owners that are focused ondeveloping as leaders and
securing a legacy they're proudof.
So integrity, leadership,legacy.
And one thing that we feel likewe do as, as good as anyone is
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we will help you grow yourbusiness.
I mean, at this point we havewell over a thousand
testimonials, maybe thousands atthis point.
Especially if you count like ourannual conference.
Were you at Roof Con last year?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I mean 3,400 people there atthat event.
It's.
At event, it's a conference,it's not a revolt retreat, but
very similar, same core values.
(03:25):
And so for us just being able topour back into people on the
personal development side andnot just the business side.
I've got all the testimonialsyou could ask for about a guy
going from zero to 5 million, 1million to 8 million, 5 million
to 25 million.
We got all of those if you wannasee'em, but, It all starts with
working on us.
It really does.
It's hard for people to see thatfrom the outside when they
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listen to the podcast, when theypick up and they read my book,
they think it's about the moneyside and I gotta get the money
right before I focus on me.
It ain't that way.
If you ask any high performer,they'll tell you, I had to work
on me first.
And if they didn't and they didhappen to make it, usually that
comes with some pretty hardtimes, right?
Some times where you'requestioning yourself, you're
figuring some stuff out.
(04:08):
Maybe you treated people wrong.
And you didn't take care ofyourself physically, mentally,
emotionally spiritually.
So for us, man, it is startingwith the human being the leader
of that organization and makingthem a better leader for their
spouse, their kids their team,and then focusing on the money,
Corey Berrier (04:27):
dude, a hundred percent.
In fact I'm glad you brought uproof con, roof con.
And I really didn't even intendon getting into this, to be
perfectly frank with you.
I didn't even think about it,but Roof con that event and
coupled with meeting Eric OBRfor the first time, I didn't
even know, I didn't know Eric,but a mutual friend of ours Jeff
(04:49):
Boab.
And said, you really need tomeet this guy when you get down
here.
And I'll just tell you a quick,the quick reason why.
Well, I, now I know the reasonwhy I didn't know exactly.
I know he is, I knew Eric wassober, but, and I've not had a
drink in almost 14 years, but, Ihaven't been sober.
And so there's a big differencein not drinking and being sober.
(05:12):
And so Eric, I told Eric why Ididn't go back to aa, my
reasoning air quotes for thosethat are listening.
And he said, Corey, maybe it'sjust not about you.
And that conversation, Turned mylife around because I went to AA
the next the minute I got backto Raleigh, North Carolina.
(05:35):
And I can think of a handful oftimes that I've missed it since
now.
I was still smoking weeded atthe time, so it, it took me till
March 26th of this year torealize, not really to realize,
to become willing.
To say, I can't do thisspiritually.
(05:55):
Weed
Hunter Bellew (05:56):
was keeping me
Corey Berrier (05:57):
spiritually sick, so to speak.
And so I've always thoughtabout, the money, I've always
thought about selfishly, what'sin it for me?
And until I had thatconversation with Eric, until I
put the weeded down.
(06:18):
Like my life has completelychanged since that whole thing.
And I have to thank, you puttingon Roof Con or that conversation
with Eric would've never
Hunter Bellew (06:27):
happened.
That's awesome.
And I didn't know that story.
So that was November of lastyear.
You put it down?
Nope.
March of this year.
I put it down March of thisyear.
Okay.
Okay.
So doing pretty solid, man.
You have to remind me when yourone year comes up, we can
celebrate.
Yeah.
With a with a sweet tea as ourbeverage.
That's right.
(06:48):
That's
Corey Berrier (06:48):
right.
Hunter Bellew (06:49):
So tell me more, I mean, obviously, this is your
podcast, but I'd love to hearmore about, the clarity you've
experienced since just goingcompletely sober.
Corey Berrier (06:58):
I found Jesus, that's one thing.
And I just.
I've made a mess outta my lifein the last six, seven years,
when in this whole time Iwould've told you that I was
sober, right?
I would've told you, five monthsago.
(07:18):
In fact, I stood up in front ofthe women's healing place and
told them I was still soberbecause I just didn't look at
weeded as that.
I always put alcohol as thesober in a sober box, so to
speak, right?
And so the clarity that I'vegotten since then is I've pulled
my head outta my ass.
I'm far less selfish.
I think about other people.
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I try to do for other people.
I've always really tried to dofor other people as long as I
get something out of it.
And I just have a differentperspective on how I go about
things.
I don't, I can't really put apin in it.
Everything's changed.
Everything has changed,
Hunter Bellew (07:58):
man.
What I talk about often, I talkabout it in the book, I talk
about it at the retreats is, wehave those, and I call it an
opportunity to go through thatseason life.
And at the time we may look atit like it, it sucks.
It was a horrible part of mylife.
But for you.
You're gonna be able to lookback now, look at that
experience and use it to helpsomeone else when you have that
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conversation with them, as longas they're open-minded to it, we
all know that.
You can't change somebody ifthey don't wanna change, but
you're gonna come acrosssomebody.
I promise you, you will if youhaven't already in the future
that says, yep, I'm sober, andthen they pick it up.
And you're gonna be able to say,Hey look, I thought I was sober
too, and speak from experience'cause they're gonna relate to
you so much better than they'drelate from me when I don't have
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that experience.
But you're gonna be able to talkto'em and say, Hey look, I know
that you got off the bottle andyou think your life went from
here to here and you could keepsmoking weeded.
But you saw the gap here.
Imagine if you could take it tohere just by putting that down
as well.
And I know that's gonna happen.
I have zero doubt and I hopeyou'll reach out to me and say,
yep, it just happened.
'cause it's just like withFearless 44, people are like,
(09:01):
ah, nobody's gonna reach out tome.
Dude, I've had thousands ofpeople do our challenge now.
We've been doing it since 2019.
We thousands of people.
I ain't ever had one person tellme that they completed it and
someone didn't reach out and saythey were inspired ever.
It just don't happen, man.
People are watching you evenwhen you don't think they are.
Corey Berrier (09:19):
I'll go ahead and tell you right now.
There was some, and I can't tellyou who it is, obviously, but
there was somebody at thatretreat that I was at a revolt
retreat that reached out to memaybe four days ago and wrote me
a really long dmm.
He said, I don't know why I'mtelling you all this.
He said, you've never toldanybody this, but because I've
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watched your stories, this isnot an ego play.
He said I, because I've watchedyour stories.
'cause I've been extremelyvulnerable on Facebook.
More honest and more vulnerablethan I've ever been in my entire
life.
And he said, because of whatyou've been posting, he said,
I've been sober for 53 days.
(10:02):
And dude, you can't, Ima, Imean, you can imagine,'cause you
just told me a similar story,but it's so powerful.
It's
Hunter Bellew (10:10):
such a good feeling when you know,'cause
most of the time
Corey Berrier (10:12):
people don't necessarily reach out until they
feel comfortable.
And I guess that comfortability,I didn't provide that obviously
when I wasn't sober'cause therewas some inconsistency there.
I didn't see it at the time, buteverybody else probably saw it.
Hunter Bellew (10:28):
How fulfilling is that man?
All the times that you wanted tomake that post and you're like,
ah, do I really wanna say that?
Do I really wanna expose myself?
Yeah, but you clicked post andnow you got people like that
reaching out to you.
Man, that, that's a blessing,man.
That's super fulfilling.
That's what life's about, right?
There is way better than anymoney.
Corey Berrier (10:48):
I think one of the thing, I agree with you.
I think one of the pieces ofclarity that I've got is that,
it's okay if you don't like me.
Like it's okay if you thinkwhatever you want to think.
And it's okay if I thinkwhatever I wanna think, but at
the end of the day, otherpeople's opinion just doesn't
(11:09):
really affect me like it usedto.
Hunter Bellew (11:12):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a constant battle man forme.
For sure.
It is doing, you're a peopleperson.
Maybe even borderline peoplepleaser.
There's a part of me that'slike, ah, F off.
Like, I don't care.
I'm gonna do me.
But at my core, I care aboutpeople.
I love people.
So then at night I startedthinking like, oh man, were they
right?
Should I have done it this way?
(11:32):
Should I changed the way I saidit?
Whatever.
And you get into a comparisontrap as well, if you're super
competitive.
There's some alphas that come torevolt.
There's a lot of competitivepeople that come to revolt.
I'm extremely competitive, andyou start saying, man, I see
this guy over here on Facebook.
I see this guy on Instagram.
I see this guy speaking at aconference.
(11:54):
I.
Like, how is he doing that muchbetter than me?
But we're just seeing a littletiny glimpse of their life.
We don't know all the backendstuff.
And so, one of the lessons thatI teach, and I actually, I've
been working on this for a longtime and I just taught it for
the first time publicly at ourcouples retreat.
We had our couples retreat lastweek for revolt.
And dude, it was so good.
I can't even put into words howgood it was.
(12:15):
But I taught that lesson.
Me and my wife did it together.
It's called embedded.
And the root of it is coming upwith life laws.
That you create for your kids asthey grow up.
And then you see those withmantras and then you see that
with actions that they take thattie to them.
And when I think about what Iwant to embed into my kids, one
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of the things is me versus me.
I'm not worried about anybodyelse, man.
Like, if I could just be betterthan me yesterday, I'm winning.
And then tomorrow I'm gonna justbe better than me and I'm
winning.
And eventually I'm gonna pass99% of those guys because
they're gonna slip, they'regonna fall, they're gonna take
days off.
And if I just keep trucking, I'mgonna eventually pass'em and I
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don't have to focus on them aslong as I'm focused on myself.
So one of our, all that to sayin that lesson embedded that me
and my wife did with the couplesat Revolt.
One of our life laws for Turneris me versus me.
Just me versus me.
Corey Berrier (13:15):
cause you're the biggest obstacle, right?
Also.
Yep.
A hundred
Hunter Bellew (13:20):
percent.
Corey Berrier (13:21):
Yeah, that's right.
So, I met you, I've met you acouple of times, but I
specifically at Roof Con Ireally observed your demeanor
at.
I've never seen anybody so calmin a situation that I would, I
feel like if I would've beenthere at the time with, if I
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would've been in your shoes, Ifeel like I'd have been running
all over the place, but youwould've so calm, cool, and
collective.
And little did I know that youknow that at the end of the
event things were not gonna lookas good as you thought they
might look, or were hoping thatthey were gonna look.
Can you kind of walk us through?
(14:05):
How you maintain that emotionalintelligence through that
Hunter Bellew (14:11):
situation.
Yeah, man, there's a lot to besaid for that, right?
To start this conversation, Iwould say that, I give a lot of
credit to my time at the firedepartment with my ability to
stay cool, calm, collectedduring chaos.
Like, you hear a lot of peoplesay that there's a certain type
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of person they live in chaos.
That's the zone they'recomfortable.
I tell the story often of inbusiness, you got the Marines
that take the beach, which isthe startup phase.
You got the army that takes thecity, which is you start to
build out processes and you havethe police that maintain the
city.
As it grows and comes back tocivilization.
And that's your people that arejust your everyday non to fires
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fibers.
They're gonna, they're gonnabuild up those processes.
They're gonna be there everysingle day and you don't have to
worry about'em going anywhere.
For me, I've always kind of, I.
Growing up in chaos.
Pretty chaotic family.
My, my parents were both usersof drugs.
They were both addicts.
And then I went to the MarineCorps and then I went to the
fire department.
So, pretty chaotic.
You pull up to a scene andthere's three cars flipped over
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and, there's bodies and yougotta figure out who to take
care of first.
Like, running a vent is not thatchaotic compared to that, right?
So, first off, and I've just hadthat realization, man, in the
last.
In the last year, really justthat I can give a lot of.
Credit to the fire departmentand the experiences I had there.
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In fact, like in the last threemonths, me and my wife were
having the conversation, and Idon't wanna force my son to do
anything, but if I was gonnakind of gently guide him into
something I was telling my wifeI think I would guide him into
the fire department before Iwould guide him into the Marine
Corps.
The Marine Corps's.
Great.
For the 13 weeks you're inbootcamp outside of that man
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it's.
Not super structured, hurt a lotof hurry up and wait, kind of a
pain in the butt.
A lot of egos and you're kind ofsitting around unless you go on
a deployment, which is few andfar between, most people don't
get that opportunity.
You go to the fire department,you're gonna see some shit a
hundred percent.
Like it don't matter if you'rein the that.
That's the funny thing, man, islike, I was at the country
bumpkin fire department out herein the mountains and everybody's
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like, oh, you know you need togo to the city and do the big
stuff.
And I went to the city.
And really, I saw as much, maybeeven more at the country fire
department than I did at the bigcity.
So we were talking about thatand just saying like, man just
to give him that experience,give him that perspective.
Help him understand, man,whatever you do in life,
whatever you go attack, whateveryour job or business or anything
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ends up being, you lose money.
You lose employees.
People steal, it ain't that bigof a deal.
It ain't life or death.
If it's not gonna matter in fiveyears, don't give it more than
five minutes.
Right?
So, so that's to start thatconversation.
I credit the fire department alot.
Beyond that, it's at the end ofthe day, man it's about the
people.
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And I don't say that as like a,oh, hunter's all Mr.
Nice guy.
Like really it is man.
They're paying, the vendors arepaying to be there.
The attendees are paying to bethere.
They wanna see a good show just'cause I'm stressed out'cause a
hurricane's coming through and Ican see we're not gonna hit our
numbers and I'm gonna lose mybutt on the event.
I can't let that affect anyoneelse.
Everyone else wants to talk,they want to get a copy of the
book.
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They wanna, meet so-and-so and Iwant to deliver that.
I wanted it to be a good timesince the time I was a kid, man,
like 15 years old.
I started throwing parties whenI was in high school, we had a
piece of property up in themountains and we'd have parties
up there, a hundred cars be upand down the road.
And so, so from the time I wassuper young, I was always
bringing people together and Ifind joy in that.
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So last year, honestly, I wasprobably.
Although I may not have showedit, I was stressed, super
stressed because I knew on theback end what was happening.
And this year I've committed to,I'm not gonna just be mellow,
even if I am stressed.
I'm gonna enjoy the moment, man,because yeah, I'm getting to do
what I love.
Who at, 32 years old gets to dowhat I do?
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Not many people, man, have adecent sized business, have, a
great team with dozens ofemployees, have an event.
Every year with thousands ofattendees and a couple hundred
vendors and getting to hang outwith Tim Tebow and John Maxwell,
and Nick and Craig, Rochelle,and Ed Mullet.
Just all the things, man I'm soblessed, even if.
I lost a million dollars.
(18:21):
Right?
So that's the ugly part.
When I made that post and youcommented about coming on the
podcast, that's the promise thatI made, is I'm gonna share the
good, bad, and ugly for my lastyear.
And one of the ugliest things, Iwent from, the hardest season of
my life to the next hardestseason of my life, back to back.
And that second one was losing amillion dollars on the roof con.
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We fully expected to have 5,000attendees come to the event.
We were telling we were tellingvendors like three to 4,000
because we don't ever want toover promise.
So that wasn't as big of a deal.
But in our mind and the way wespent to build the show, we had
it set up for 5,000 people.
And some people would be like,well, why is it that, that, that
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big of a difference?
What, here's what it came downto at Orange County Convention
Center where we do the show.
There's Chapin Theater where wehad it in 2021.
Not too expensive to do it inChapin Theater.
Less than a million dollars torun the entire show.
Close to a million, but lessthan well.
They only have like, I thinkit's 2,600 seats, so we knew
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that wasn't gonna cut it, so wehad to build out our own
auditorium.
And you saw it, you saw thestage, you saw the lights, you
saw the racking.
I mean, it was concert quality,literally concert quality.
We hired the people out ofAtlanta that do concerts.
They do all of John Maxwell'sevents and they're expensive.
And it was right at a quarter orthree quarters of a million
dollars just to build out the AVand everything for this show
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this last year.
Then we didn't have our 5,000hurricane hit about two weeks
before we started seeingeverybody online talk about, oh,
well, I don't know if I'm gonnacome.
I got a lot of work to dealwith.
And then the week of, everybodystarted saying, oh, there's
another hurricane coming.
They're saying it's gonna hitOrlando.
I don't know if I'm gonna come.
So we started to get prettyfearful of, oh man, this could
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be really bad.
And sure enough, it went down to3,400, which was still great.
We still had.
50% growth from 2021, but notenough to cover what we had
spent for the show.
So that was my ugly for lastyear.
But we're battling back fromthat man.
We're looking forward to areally good show this year.
I'm super excited about it.
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The attendees that we do havecome out, the vendors that we do
have come out.
They're some of the best peoplein the industry.
I think that most of them alignwith our values of integrity,
leadership, legacy, and theyunderstand the importance of
having an event that is focusedmore on the personal side than
just the business side.
Corey Berrier (20:49):
Yeah, I, you look, I mean, I like, I thought
it was one of the best thrownevents and I've gone to many
events but I did think it was, Ithought it was so well put
together.
And the people that you hadspeak were tremendous as well.
So
Hunter Bellew (21:07):
you had,
Corey Berrier (21:08):
You jumped outta one fire into the next.
Can we go into and I think Iknow what it is, but I'm not a
hundred percent.
And I know that you went throughsome stuff, soldier company, I
think, and then you bought itback, right?
Is that right?
Yep.
So that wasn't an easy processthough, right?
No, not
Hunter Bellew (21:26):
exactly.
Corey Berrier (21:28):
So can you talk about that for
Hunter Bellew (21:29):
a minute?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, 2021, beginning of 2021,March 1st, specifically sold my
company Cornerstone to anothercompany outta California.
Got a good chunk, few milliondollars upfront in cash.
Got a bunch of shares, millionsof dollars in shares as well.
About six months, eight monthsgoes by, the stock starts to go
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down pretty bad.
At one year I had what's calleda make whole provision inside of
my contract, and this is allpublic, like you can look it up
and fact check if you'd like to.
It is still on the internet ifyou look me up.
But inside of the contract, ithas what's called a make whole
provision.
So of the$45 million in stockthat I got, if the stock price
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dropped, they had to make upthat amount so that I was made
whole at$45 million.
So just for example, if I had 45million shares at a dollar reach
and it drops to 50%, well theyhave to gimme another.
45 million shares.
So I have 90 million at 50 centsto be made all at$45 million
across the board.
Does that make sense?
It does.
(22:34):
Yep.
So it dropped to 32 cents.
So the total, I, I think it waslike 127 million was the total,
something like that.
'cause I was actually owedshares from another deal that I
helped put together, bringinganother company.
I was being paid on that.
So I'm pretty sure the number,if I remember correctly, was
like 127 million shares.
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So tough spot for them, I getit.
Giving out 127 million sharesdilutes the shit out of the rest
of the shares that you have.
It kind of creates some fear inthe stockholders that you have.
And it wouldn't have been good,but at the same rate, like for
me, I felt like I did my part.
I pulled my weight, I did what Isaid I was gonna do, and so I
wasn't gonna go down without afight.
Well, we ended up coming to anagreement.
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I what I felt like was prettyfair to where I kept all the
cash I had gotten, I kept abouta fourth of the shares that I
had gotten and that way I couldpay my team.
That was a big part of.
My negotiation with them is Isaid, Hey man, when I sold the
company, part of the deal was Iwas gonna give X to my team
members.
There was about 50 of'em totalthat I was gonna give shares to.
That helped me build thecompany.
(23:37):
And so when I renegotiated tosettle with them, get my company
back, keep the millions ofdollars in cash.
And keep some of the shares.
I just wanted to make sure thatI was able to give the people
that were a part of it, theshares that I had promised.
So we did that.
They all got their shares.
In fact, everyone got at leastwhat they were promised or more,
and then I was able to hold ontoa few million shares myself as
(24:00):
well.
So it went good, man.
People ask me all the time,would I change it, during that
season of life.
Maybe I would've said I'd havechanged it just'cause I was
stressed.
I mean, I definitely lost somehair over it.
You see how bad I'm thinningright here, man.
But no it was a I don't knowthat I'd say a good experience,
but it was I learned a lot,right?
Like, people always talk aboutdue diligence.
(24:22):
If you're gonna buy a company,sure.
Do your due diligence for sure.
Spend six months, dig into it,look at every number.
But on the flip side, if you'rethe one selling your company,
Also do your due diligence.
Make sure that they align withyour values, that they're legit
that they have the cash neededto grow the company.
All the things.
So yeah, I don't regret it.
I'm appreciative for theopportunity.
(24:43):
I learned a lot.
I came out smelling pretty goodat the end of it.
There's a lot of hatersthroughout the process.
So it felt good to, to get whatI got and kind of be like, Hey,
look, if you can't put two andtwo together after seeing what I
got and got my company back, youjust don't like me anyways and
you're never gonna believe it.
And at Roof Con 2022, man, I'vetold this story a couple times.
(25:05):
Tim Tebow and me were sitting upthere on stage doing the q and
a, and he started talking aboutwhen he was at the University of
Florida and how many peoplehated him, like on social media,
always getting bashed tagged andstuff.
The media.
And he said right there on stagetalking to me that when he was
young, he went home.
He was upset, like kind of tearsin his eyes type thing to his
(25:26):
dad.
Like, dad, I don't understandwhy so many people hate me.
Like I feel like I'm a goodperson.
I'm trying to do the rightthing.
Like we're women all the stuff.
And his dad patted him on theback and said, Timmy.
He called him Timmy, which is sofunny.
You see the big old dude and hegoes by Timmy.
He said, Timmy.
It doesn't matter what you do,buddy.
Some people in this world arejust not gonna like you.
If they would get to know you,they would like you.
(25:48):
Some of'em just don't ever wannaget to know you.
And that's how it hit me, dude,right in my gut when he said
that, I'll never forget sittingup there with him.
It hit me in the gut and I wasthinking, damn, that is so true,
man.
Like if all these haters, allthese people posting stuff about
me and about my family, andabout my son, that I wanted to
freaking drive to their houseand beat their ass for saying
stupid stuff on social media.
(26:09):
All these people, if they wouldget to know me, They'd like me.
They would know me.
They would see my heart.
They'd see the impact that wemake in not only this industry,
but across the country, acrossthe world, with the challenges
and the retreats and the eventsand all the things.
But some people, man, they justwanna run their mouth.
They don't want to get to knowyou, and we just have to accept
that and be okay with it.
I don't have to please a hundredpercent of the people if I can
(26:31):
please.
1% of the people, there's 6billion people on Earth.
I'm doing pretty good.
Yeah.
Corey Berrier (26:37):
That had to be tough though.
I mean, at the time that had tobe really tough knowing that
that you did do the right thing,but people just, and people are
ruthless.
People say shit to me online andI'm like, you just, you just
kind of a idiot.
Like, just stop.
Hunter Bellew (26:53):
I, six
Corey Berrier (26:55):
months ago, I would've completely taken it
personal.
Now it just doesn't even I can'teven allow it to.
A part in my, I just can't,like, I just don't have
Hunter Bellew (27:04):
time for it, and it's really not worth my, there,
there's not even, not even justthe people saying stuff, man,
just the situation, it createssome self-doubt in your head.
You're like, man I sold mycompany for$48 million.
Ultimately ended up being a lotless than that.
Again I kept a good bit of itbut I got my company back.
Now it's okay.
Let's do this again.
(27:25):
And maybe this isn't for theright reason.
This is a whole notherconversation we could have
another day.
But you know, a lot of peoplesay don't do stuff to prove
people wrong.
Well, guess what, man, thatfuels me.
And I've always said, I believeit's a push and a pull.
The pull is you looking out.
At your mission, your vision,the thing that you believe in
and letting it pull you.
But every once in a while, man,that just ain't enough.
(27:46):
It's just not like, let's behonest, we can pretend that
every day we wake up, motivated,ready to go.
But unless you're part of the0.0, zero zero 1% that are like
that, it don't happen foreverybody.
Sometimes you gotta take a lookback at all the haters, all the
people that said you couldn't,and all the people that said you
wouldn't and let that push you.
So I absolutely believe it's apull and a push.
So I like to use that as a pushman.
(28:07):
Like, I'm gonna show all thesepeople.
I went out, I boughtroofing.com.
I've built that into asuccessful business that's
killing it as partners allacross the country.
We have a conference that hasthousands of people.
We have an app that has 82,000users every single day.
We're getting more users.
Every single month we're gettingthousands of users and taking
companies from our competitors.
I'm out to prove some peoplewrong, and that's okay.
(28:27):
I don't say that with ego, butit's for myself.
Like I wanna show myself that Ican do it.
Corey Berrier (28:33):
Yeah, I look, I get it a hundred percent.
Tell me about what, kind ofswitching gears a little bit,
tell me what it was like in yourmarriage during that time,
because stress, I'm married,you're married, both have kids.
That's, it's stressful to beginwith.
But what is, what, how did youmanage that?
(28:56):
Stress throughout that time withyou and your wife?
How did that how did that, let'ssee, how did that maybe detract
from your relationship?
Or did it make you go in more?
How did it affect
Hunter Bellew (29:07):
you?
Yeah, man, I think if anythingstronger made us stronger my
wife is so supportive, man, likesuper, super supportive.
And the, part of it man is like,One of my it's a funny story
actually.
One of my partners in one of mybusinesses, he is pretty well
known guy, but he had somewhatof a similar story where he got
(29:28):
in a big lawsuit.
His was more, they were tryingto accuse him of some criminal
stuff, like going to jail, notjust business.
And his wife left him during it.
And this was like 20 years ago.
He's a lot older than me.
His wife left him with me.
My wife and I really felt likewe got stronger, got closer.
(29:48):
And part of that is because shewas there for all of it, man.
Like she saw every conversation,she saw every negotiation.
She flew with me to Californiato do it right.
Like she knows what I said.
She saw the text messages, sheknows that I'm not BSing or
didn't do some, crap out ofintegrity.
She saw it and even if shedidn't see it, she just knows
(30:09):
that's not who I am.
I'd rather make.
Break in$24,000 a year workingat the fire department.
Have to stay up late at nightbecause I have a conscience.
Un, unlike some people, like, I,I just couldn't do it.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna freaking, I wannahave nothing to hide.
That's another one that we putin there for Turner.
When we say one of our, one ofhis life laws is gonna be
integrity and the mantra isnothing to hide, I got nothing
(30:31):
to hide, dude.
Like I'll just.
You ask me anything You asked memy I tell you it's longer than
it.
Nothing to hide real.
For Maggie, she saw that she wassupportive of it.
I didn't like tell her everysingle little thing that
happened because I didn't wannastress her out.
Right.
(30:52):
But it was nothing that I washiding from her.
It was just, I'm gonna tell herwhat she needs to know, and some
of it, I don't wanna stress herout.
And if I need to talk tosomebody, I got people that I
can talk to.
I can seek guidance from, advicementors that I have.
So it was good man.
And like, it just made merealize that.
I came from a single widetrailer.
(31:12):
It was the first place I movedafter I moved outta my grandma's
house, she started dating me.
I was living there in a littlesingle wide trailer.
It's actually like a quartermile through the woods from
where I'm sitting right now inmy office.
Funny enough, talk about acrappy trailer.
That thing had to be made inlike the sixties or something,
like falling apart.
But I lived there.
She was there with me, right?
So she saw that she experiencedit.
(31:32):
If I had to go back to that,she'd still be there with me and
she would still be just ashappy.
I know that I'm not just sayingthat'cause that's a cliche thing
to say, I'm dead ass serious.
My wife would still be with meand be just as happy as long as
I was there with her and we weretaking care of the kids
together.
So that is really reassuringwhen you're having a lot of
(31:52):
self-doubt and question yourselfis to know that your partner,
your best friend, your ride ordie.
It's truly a rotted die.
Like she's gonna be therethrough it all.
Thick and thin.
Good and bad.
Yeah.
Corey Berrier (32:06):
I would say the exact same thing about my life.
We, when we got married, we, notin a trailer, but little shitty
condo that we were re I wasrenting like it, nothing
compared to where, not that weare anything great now, but the
point is like it wouldn'tmatter.
It just, it really wouldn'tmatter.
I.
And I don't know if most peoplecan say that.
(32:28):
I, in fact, I question if a lotof people can say that, so many
damn divorces that happen that,I think it's really a special
thing when you find someone thatyou can depend on.
You find someone that it doeshave your back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hunter Bellew (32:44):
By the way, is your camera moving?
Yeah, it's an app like Move WithYou.
Yep.
It's freaking me out, dude.
I was like, what the fuck, dude?
Corey Berrier (32:51):
Sometimes I leave it.
Sometimes if it goes reallyfast, sometimes it'll zoom in
and out.
I don't know if it's done that'cause I haven't been looking at
it, but when it does that you'llreally be freaked out'cause it
goes way out and way back again.
Hunter Bellew (33:03):
I took one of my guys at Cornerstone to eat pizza
today and I spoke it all over.
He's like, dude, you're gonnahave to change before that
podcast.
I was like, nah, man.
In honor of.
Erico be authentic or get theOh, yeah, that's right.
Corey Berrier (33:17):
That's right.
Solid.
Hunter Bellew (33:18):
Solid dude.
Corey Berrier (33:19):
Well, so where, so what's the, what new things
are you working on since I sawyou last year at Roof Con?
I mean, AI's a big deal.
AI's, I mean, there's so manythings that we could talk about
with ai, but I would like tobring that into the conversation
where you see, Where do you seethat working?
(33:39):
For the roofing industry?
Hunter Bellew (33:42):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll kind of give two examplesof how I think could be useful
for any business owners that arelistening to this podcast.
Number one on a sales front is,Using something like chat, g p t
just for copywriting.
We were talking about it preshowed, but there's a lot of
guys that don't really know howto write copy.
(34:02):
They don't know how to writesales copy.
They don't know how to set upthe call to action to create the
body, to get an engagingheadline, to get people to read
it.
And so for.
Anyone that doesn't know how toor is afraid to just to get
started, dude it's so easy to goin and check g p t and give it a
prompt of, please write me asales copy on how to sell the
Mastermind Revolt using the toneof Hunter Ballou, Corey Barrier
(34:26):
grant Cardone, like literallyyou can give the tone of the
person you want to copy.
Like, I told you, like I, I toldmy wife about this like a week
ago.
I was like, Hey, check this out.
So I went, I said basically whatI just said about selling the
Revolt Mastermind and the toneof Hunter Blue, and it started
it off with Ha Fam, and she'slike, oh my God, that's crazy.
(34:46):
You say that all the time, butit really does, it can read
through, you know anyone thatputs out a lot of content, it'll
read through it and a 30seconds, you got a 500 word
thousand word post that you canleverage.
And it's just like anything, youdon't have to use a hundred
percent of it.
If there's something you don'tlike or you want to tweak,
change it, but use it.
And then on the business ownerfront man, Something we're doing
(35:08):
for our roofa.com partners andour revolt members is we have
tons of content, like hours andhours and hours of content.
Well, sometimes, they mightwanna be able to go in and
search and say, Hey, where dothese guys talk about tax
strategy?
Or, where do they talk aboutFacebook ads?
And they don't wanna have tolook through every single video
to find it or look through allthe titles or, e even better,
(35:28):
even if.
There's a section that saysFacebook ads, and they just
click on the first video still.
You gotta sit there and watchthe video for the exact part
you're talking about.
So there's this platform calledSearch that we're starting to
use where you can go in.
It'll upload all of your contentthat you have.
And I'm saying this'cause ifyou're a business owner and you
have a training platform, you'veprobably heard me talk about Six
(35:48):
Figure Blueprint.
If you ever heard me speak ortalk about or be on a podcast,
but Six Figure Blueprint, havingyour own sales training
platform, you can have search inthere.
And if they type in 2, 3, 4keywords that they wanna see,
it'll literally pull the exactmoment in every video where you
talk about that.
So the speed at being able totrain faster is so much easier
(36:11):
with a AI nowadays than it wasbefore.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Corey Berrier (36:16):
I trained a bot on my podcast, and so you can go
in and ask whatever you want,like if it's we're talking
about, if we're talking aboutyou could punch in roofing and
this podcast is going to come upand it takes you right to the
episode, which the way I seethat is, I mean, if I can give
people access to it that easily,well, I'm gonna get more
(36:38):
downloads.
That's how I see it.
Hunter Bellew (36:41):
Yeah, for sure.
It's crazy what all I can donow, man.
It is
Corey Berrier (36:45):
absolutely nuts.
Hunter Bellew (36:47):
It's just like anything else we've seen over
the last five decades.
We can hate it.
We can be afraid of it, we canignore it, but eventually it's
gonna take over.
Your competitors are gonna beusing it.
Listen if you're the dude that's35, 40 years old, you're like,
ah, I'm not doing that stuff.
10 years ago you started using aC R M and you were making fun of
(37:11):
the 50 year old who refused touse a C R M and kept doing stuff
on paper.
Don't be the guy that refuses touse AI to leverage it.
'cause it is coming.
And your competitors, the 20year olds, the 25 year olds that
are getting the game right noware going to use it.
So you might as well get aheadof the game.
Corey Berrier (37:27):
I think it's like the internet.
I think it's like when theinternet came out I think it's
that big.
Yeah.
Hunter Bellew (37:33):
Yeah.
It's Maybe even bigger thanthat.
We'll see.
They just keep figuring out moreand more stuff you can do with
it.
Yeah,
Corey Berrier (37:39):
no, I, yeah, I totally agree.
But it is important get on boardbecause if you're not, dude,
you're gonna be, people aregonna be left behind and that
breaks my heart because it's so,and I shouldn't say it's easy.
Because it can be complex if,depending on what it is you're
looking for, what you're usingit for, or if you don't know how
to use it, just to, as you said,chat, g p t, like you.
(38:00):
If you don't know how to ask it,the right question to prompt it,
you might get a crazy answer.
But don't stop at that.
If you don't know what to askit, just ask Chad, g p t what?
Asking
Hunter Bellew (38:12):
yeah.
Corey Berrier (38:14):
So, well Hunter, dude, I really appreciate you
coming on today.
I really enjoyed thisconversation.
If you could just tell everybodyone about your book, if you
don't mind.
Tell everybody where they canwhen Roofing dot, when Roofing.
Good Lord.
Roof con's gonna be, I almostsaid roofing.com and,
Hunter Bellew (38:30):
Where people can find you.
Yeah, man.
So the book if you're an audibleperson, you can look it up on
Audible, you can get it there ifyou're a hardback person, or
even if you just wanna put it onthe shelf like I do, I usually
listen to'em on Audible.
Then I'll buy a hard copy justso I look cool when people come
to my office.
I'd be happy to give away likethe first 20 people that text me
(38:51):
from this podcast or message meon Facebook.
I'll just send you a hard capcopy for free.
After that you can just go toAmazon and pick one up.
Roof Con is in Orlando thisyear, November 9th through the
11th.
And then if you wanna find me,like I said, I'm on Facebook,
check me out.
I'm more active on Facebook thanany other platform.
Just through my profile there.
Happy to help out in any way Ican.
(39:13):
Any more information on me isrep card.com/hunter.
Perfect.
Thank you brother.
I appreciate you.
Appreciate you man.
Welcome to the Successful Life Podcast.
I'm your host, Corey Berrier,and I'm here with Hunter Ballew.
What's up Hunter?
Hunter Ballew (00:08):
What's up man?
Glad to be here.
Great
Corey Berrier (00:10):
to see you my friend.
I wore my revolt shirt today'cause I wanted to represent,
appreciate.
I saw I you wore anybody else'sshirt on this show.
I'm not gonna lie to
Hunter Bellew (00:18):
you.
I appreciate you.
I saw that dude.
Look, I.
I'm not
Corey Berrier (00:24):
A member of Revolt, but that was the
probably the most powerful eventor most powerful weekend I think
I've ever spent somewhere in mylife.
And I'm like, I mean that, like,it was the comradery.
It's just, I, it's reallywithout words.
It's hard
Hunter Bellew (00:43):
to explain
Corey Berrier (00:45):
what you put together inside a revolt.
Can you tell everybody a littlebit about that?
And I, I told you we were gonnastart this differently, and then
I just fucking quit theopposite.
Hunter Bellew (00:56):
It's all good, man.
No.
I love hearing you say that,man.
And I, I get the opportunity tohear that a lot, but what makes
it special from you is that Iwasn't even the one running that
retreat, right.
I mean, that's right.
You remember I showed up for oneexercise the end of that first
full day for the firesidetransformation.
(01:16):
And so that was one of theretreats where we let a team
member run it.
One of our right hand guys, aguy that's been with me for
years now, since 2019, beencoming to the events we've been
putting on, been helping me andjust been one of my best
friends.
That's so super cool to hear yousay that.
I wasn't even the guy runningit.
Maybe even if I'm being honest,like a little bit of ego hit
(01:36):
'cause I'm like, damn, it wasthat good and I wasn't even the
one running it.
No, but no, for real, that is asuper cool to, to see that.
And now, we've, since thatretreat, seeing that it worked
and seeing that people werestill impacted We've rolled out
a coaching program and so now wehave coaches within Revolt, a
dozen coaches within Revolt.
Michael runs'em at the end ofAugust.
(01:57):
None of the staff is gonna berunning the retreat.
We're gonna have like ourvideographer there and our ops
guy, but none of the staff willbe there to run the retreat.
It's literally just members thathave come in and become coaches
now will be running the retreat.
So it's cool to see theevolution of it.
And part of that man is like wepreach legacy all the time.
And if Hunter dies tomorrow, ifI die tomorrow, I don't want
(02:19):
this thing to end.
I know that we're still able toimpact people.
And I tell people all the time,my mission, my life mission
statement personally is todevelop millions of leaders that
impact billions of lives.
And so at some point I have tojust get out of the way and let
other people lead.
So really cool to hear you saythat in terms of what revolt is.
It started back in 2019 under adifferent name.
(02:40):
It was actually called Bold.
And then that next year wechanged it to Revolt'cause we
wanted it to encompass more.
And the core values areintegrity, leadership, legacy.
So we always say, We're bringingtogether high integrity business
owners that are focused ondeveloping as leaders and
securing a legacy they're proudof.
So integrity, leadership,legacy.
And one thing that we feel likewe do as, as good as anyone is
(03:03):
we will help you grow yourbusiness.
I mean, at this point we havewell over a thousand
testimonials, maybe thousands atthis point.
Especially if you count like ourannual conference.
Were you at Roof Con last year?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I mean 3,400 people there atthat event.
It's.
At event, it's a conference,it's not a revolt retreat, but
very similar, same core values.
(03:25):
And so for us just being able topour back into people on the
personal development side andnot just the business side.
I've got all the testimonialsyou could ask for about a guy
going from zero to 5 million, 1million to 8 million, 5 million
to 25 million.
We got all of those if you wannasee'em, but, It all starts with
working on us.
It really does.
It's hard for people to see thatfrom the outside when they
(03:47):
listen to the podcast, when theypick up and they read my book,
they think it's about the moneyside and I gotta get the money
right before I focus on me.
It ain't that way.
If you ask any high performer,they'll tell you, I had to work
on me first.
And if they didn't and they didhappen to make it, usually that
comes with some pretty hardtimes, right?
Some times where you'requestioning yourself, you're
figuring some stuff out.
(04:08):
Maybe you treated people wrong.
And you didn't take care ofyourself physically, mentally,
emotionally spiritually.
So for us, man, it is startingwith the human being the leader
of that organization and makingthem a better leader for their
spouse, their kids their team,and then focusing on the money,
Corey Berrier (04:27):
dude, a hundred percent.
In fact I'm glad you brought uproof con, roof con.
And I really didn't even intendon getting into this, to be
perfectly frank with you.
I didn't even think about it,but Roof con that event and
coupled with meeting Eric OBRfor the first time, I didn't
even know, I didn't know Eric,but a mutual friend of ours Jeff
(04:49):
Boab.
And said, you really need tomeet this guy when you get down
here.
And I'll just tell you a quick,the quick reason why.
Well, I, now I know the reasonwhy I didn't know exactly.
I know he is, I knew Eric wassober, but, and I've not had a
drink in almost 14 years, but, Ihaven't been sober.
And so there's a big differencein not drinking and being sober.
(05:12):
And so Eric, I told Eric why Ididn't go back to aa, my
reasoning air quotes for thosethat are listening.
And he said, Corey, maybe it'sjust not about you.
And that conversation, Turned mylife around because I went to AA
the next the minute I got backto Raleigh, North Carolina.
(05:35):
And I can think of a handful oftimes that I've missed it since
now.
I was still smoking weeded atthe time, so it, it took me till
March 26th of this year torealize, not really to realize,
to become willing.
To say, I can't do thisspiritually.
(05:55):
Weed
Hunter Bellew (05:56):
was keeping me
Corey Berrier (05:57):
spiritually sick, so to speak.
And so I've always thoughtabout, the money, I've always
thought about selfishly, what'sin it for me?
And until I had thatconversation with Eric, until I
put the weeded down.
(06:18):
Like my life has completelychanged since that whole thing.
And I have to thank, you puttingon Roof Con or that conversation
with Eric would've never
Hunter Bellew (06:27):
happened.
That's awesome.
And I didn't know that story.
So that was November of lastyear.
You put it down?
Nope.
March of this year.
I put it down March of thisyear.
Okay.
Okay.
So doing pretty solid, man.
You have to remind me when yourone year comes up, we can
celebrate.
Yeah.
With a with a sweet tea as ourbeverage.
That's right.
(06:48):
That's
Corey Berrier (06:48):
right.
Hunter Bellew (06:49):
So tell me more, I mean, obviously, this is your
podcast, but I'd love to hearmore about, the clarity you've
experienced since just goingcompletely sober.
Corey Berrier (06:58):
I found Jesus, that's one thing.
And I just.
I've made a mess outta my lifein the last six, seven years,
when in this whole time Iwould've told you that I was
sober, right?
I would've told you, five monthsago.
(07:18):
In fact, I stood up in front ofthe women's healing place and
told them I was still soberbecause I just didn't look at
weeded as that.
I always put alcohol as thesober in a sober box, so to
speak, right?
And so the clarity that I'vegotten since then is I've pulled
my head outta my ass.
I'm far less selfish.
I think about other people.
(07:39):
I try to do for other people.
I've always really tried to dofor other people as long as I
get something out of it.
And I just have a differentperspective on how I go about
things.
I don't, I can't really put apin in it.
Everything's changed.
Everything has changed,
Hunter Bellew (07:58):
man.
What I talk about often, I talkabout it in the book, I talk
about it at the retreats is, wehave those, and I call it an
opportunity to go through thatseason life.
And at the time we may look atit like it, it sucks.
It was a horrible part of mylife.
But for you.
You're gonna be able to lookback now, look at that
experience and use it to helpsomeone else when you have that
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conversation with them, as longas they're open-minded to it, we
all know that.
You can't change somebody ifthey don't wanna change, but
you're gonna come acrosssomebody.
I promise you, you will if youhaven't already in the future
that says, yep, I'm sober, andthen they pick it up.
And you're gonna be able to say,Hey look, I thought I was sober
too, and speak from experience'cause they're gonna relate to
you so much better than they'drelate from me when I don't have
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that experience.
But you're gonna be able to talkto'em and say, Hey look, I know
that you got off the bottle andyou think your life went from
here to here and you could keepsmoking weeded.
But you saw the gap here.
Imagine if you could take it tohere just by putting that down
as well.
And I know that's gonna happen.
I have zero doubt and I hopeyou'll reach out to me and say,
yep, it just happened.
'cause it's just like withFearless 44, people are like,
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ah, nobody's gonna reach out tome.
Dude, I've had thousands ofpeople do our challenge now.
We've been doing it since 2019.
We thousands of people.
I ain't ever had one person tellme that they completed it and
someone didn't reach out and saythey were inspired ever.
It just don't happen, man.
People are watching you evenwhen you don't think they are.
Corey Berrier (09:19):
I'll go ahead and tell you right now.
There was some, and I can't tellyou who it is, obviously, but
there was somebody at thatretreat that I was at a revolt
retreat that reached out to memaybe four days ago and wrote me
a really long dmm.
He said, I don't know why I'mtelling you all this.
He said, you've never toldanybody this, but because I've
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watched your stories, this isnot an ego play.
He said I, because I've watchedyour stories.
'cause I've been extremelyvulnerable on Facebook.
More honest and more vulnerablethan I've ever been in my entire
life.
And he said, because of whatyou've been posting, he said,
I've been sober for 53 days.
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And dude, you can't, Ima, Imean, you can imagine,'cause you
just told me a similar story,but it's so powerful.
It's
Hunter Bellew (10:10):
such a good feeling when you know,'cause
most of the time
Corey Berrier (10:12):
people don't necessarily reach out until they
feel comfortable.
And I guess that comfortability,I didn't provide that obviously
when I wasn't sober'cause therewas some inconsistency there.
I didn't see it at the time, buteverybody else probably saw it.
Hunter Bellew (10:28):
How fulfilling is that man?
All the times that you wanted tomake that post and you're like,
ah, do I really wanna say that?
Do I really wanna expose myself?
Yeah, but you clicked post andnow you got people like that
reaching out to you.
Man, that, that's a blessing,man.
That's super fulfilling.
That's what life's about, right?
There is way better than anymoney.
Corey Berrier (10:48):
I think one of the thing, I agree with you.
I think one of the pieces ofclarity that I've got is that,
it's okay if you don't like me.
Like it's okay if you thinkwhatever you want to think.
And it's okay if I thinkwhatever I wanna think, but at
the end of the day, otherpeople's opinion just doesn't
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really affect me like it usedto.
Hunter Bellew (11:12):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a constant battle man forme.
For sure.
It is doing, you're a peopleperson.
Maybe even borderline peoplepleaser.
There's a part of me that'slike, ah, F off.
Like, I don't care.
I'm gonna do me.
But at my core, I care aboutpeople.
I love people.
So then at night I startedthinking like, oh man, were they
right?
Should I have done it this way?
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Should I changed the way I saidit?
Whatever.
And you get into a comparisontrap as well, if you're super
competitive.
There's some alphas that come torevolt.
There's a lot of competitivepeople that come to revolt.
I'm extremely competitive, andyou start saying, man, I see
this guy over here on Facebook.
I see this guy on Instagram.
I see this guy speaking at aconference.
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I.
Like, how is he doing that muchbetter than me?
But we're just seeing a littletiny glimpse of their life.
We don't know all the backendstuff.
And so, one of the lessons thatI teach, and I actually, I've
been working on this for a longtime and I just taught it for
the first time publicly at ourcouples retreat.
We had our couples retreat lastweek for revolt.
And dude, it was so good.
I can't even put into words howgood it was.
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But I taught that lesson.
Me and my wife did it together.
It's called embedded.
And the root of it is coming upwith life laws.
That you create for your kids asthey grow up.
And then you see those withmantras and then you see that
with actions that they take thattie to them.
And when I think about what Iwant to embed into my kids, one
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of the things is me versus me.
I'm not worried about anybodyelse, man.
Like, if I could just be betterthan me yesterday, I'm winning.
And then tomorrow I'm gonna justbe better than me and I'm
winning.
And eventually I'm gonna pass99% of those guys because
they're gonna slip, they'regonna fall, they're gonna take
days off.
And if I just keep trucking, I'mgonna eventually pass'em and I
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don't have to focus on them aslong as I'm focused on myself.
So one of our, all that to sayin that lesson embedded that me
and my wife did with the couplesat Revolt.
One of our life laws for Turneris me versus me.
Just me versus me.
Corey Berrier (13:15):
cause you're the biggest obstacle, right?
Also.
Yep.
A hundred
Hunter Bellew (13:20):
percent.
Corey Berrier (13:21):
Yeah, that's right.
So, I met you, I've met you acouple of times, but I
specifically at Roof Con Ireally observed your demeanor
at.
I've never seen anybody so calmin a situation that I would, I
feel like if I would've beenthere at the time with, if I
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would've been in your shoes, Ifeel like I'd have been running
all over the place, but youwould've so calm, cool, and
collective.
And little did I know that youknow that at the end of the
event things were not gonna lookas good as you thought they
might look, or were hoping thatthey were gonna look.
Can you kind of walk us through?
(14:05):
How you maintain that emotionalintelligence through that
Hunter Bellew (14:11):
situation.
Yeah, man, there's a lot to besaid for that, right?
To start this conversation, Iwould say that, I give a lot of
credit to my time at the firedepartment with my ability to
stay cool, calm, collectedduring chaos.
Like, you hear a lot of peoplesay that there's a certain type
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of person they live in chaos.
That's the zone they'recomfortable.
I tell the story often of inbusiness, you got the Marines
that take the beach, which isthe startup phase.
You got the army that takes thecity, which is you start to
build out processes and you havethe police that maintain the
city.
As it grows and comes back tocivilization.
And that's your people that arejust your everyday non to fires
(14:53):
fibers.
They're gonna, they're gonnabuild up those processes.
They're gonna be there everysingle day and you don't have to
worry about'em going anywhere.
For me, I've always kind of, I.
Growing up in chaos.
Pretty chaotic family.
My, my parents were both usersof drugs.
They were both addicts.
And then I went to the MarineCorps and then I went to the
fire department.
So, pretty chaotic.
You pull up to a scene andthere's three cars flipped over
(15:15):
and, there's bodies and yougotta figure out who to take
care of first.
Like, running a vent is not thatchaotic compared to that, right?
So, first off, and I've just hadthat realization, man, in the
last.
In the last year, really justthat I can give a lot of.
Credit to the fire departmentand the experiences I had there.
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In fact, like in the last threemonths, me and my wife were
having the conversation, and Idon't wanna force my son to do
anything, but if I was gonnakind of gently guide him into
something I was telling my wifeI think I would guide him into
the fire department before Iwould guide him into the Marine
Corps.
The Marine Corps's.
Great.
For the 13 weeks you're inbootcamp outside of that man
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it's.
Not super structured, hurt a lotof hurry up and wait, kind of a
pain in the butt.
A lot of egos and you're kind ofsitting around unless you go on
a deployment, which is few andfar between, most people don't
get that opportunity.
You go to the fire department,you're gonna see some shit a
hundred percent.
Like it don't matter if you'rein the that.
That's the funny thing, man, islike, I was at the country
bumpkin fire department out herein the mountains and everybody's
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like, oh, you know you need togo to the city and do the big
stuff.
And I went to the city.
And really, I saw as much, maybeeven more at the country fire
department than I did at the bigcity.
So we were talking about thatand just saying like, man just
to give him that experience,give him that perspective.
Help him understand, man,whatever you do in life,
whatever you go attack, whateveryour job or business or anything
(16:40):
ends up being, you lose money.
You lose employees.
People steal, it ain't that bigof a deal.
It ain't life or death.
If it's not gonna matter in fiveyears, don't give it more than
five minutes.
Right?
So, so that's to start thatconversation.
I credit the fire department alot.
Beyond that, it's at the end ofthe day, man it's about the
people.
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And I don't say that as like a,oh, hunter's all Mr.
Nice guy.
Like really it is man.
They're paying, the vendors arepaying to be there.
The attendees are paying to bethere.
They wanna see a good show just'cause I'm stressed out'cause a
hurricane's coming through and Ican see we're not gonna hit our
numbers and I'm gonna lose mybutt on the event.
I can't let that affect anyoneelse.
Everyone else wants to talk,they want to get a copy of the
book.
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They wanna, meet so-and-so and Iwant to deliver that.
I wanted it to be a good timesince the time I was a kid, man,
like 15 years old.
I started throwing parties whenI was in high school, we had a
piece of property up in themountains and we'd have parties
up there, a hundred cars be upand down the road.
And so, so from the time I wassuper young, I was always
bringing people together and Ifind joy in that.
(17:41):
So last year, honestly, I wasprobably.
Although I may not have showedit, I was stressed, super
stressed because I knew on theback end what was happening.
And this year I've committed to,I'm not gonna just be mellow,
even if I am stressed.
I'm gonna enjoy the moment, man,because yeah, I'm getting to do
what I love.
Who at, 32 years old gets to dowhat I do?
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Not many people, man, have adecent sized business, have, a
great team with dozens ofemployees, have an event.
Every year with thousands ofattendees and a couple hundred
vendors and getting to hang outwith Tim Tebow and John Maxwell,
and Nick and Craig, Rochelle,and Ed Mullet.
Just all the things, man I'm soblessed, even if.
I lost a million dollars.
(18:21):
Right?
So that's the ugly part.
When I made that post and youcommented about coming on the
podcast, that's the promise thatI made, is I'm gonna share the
good, bad, and ugly for my lastyear.
And one of the ugliest things, Iwent from, the hardest season of
my life to the next hardestseason of my life, back to back.
And that second one was losing amillion dollars on the roof con.
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We fully expected to have 5,000attendees come to the event.
We were telling we were tellingvendors like three to 4,000
because we don't ever want toover promise.
So that wasn't as big of a deal.
But in our mind and the way wespent to build the show, we had
it set up for 5,000 people.
And some people would be like,well, why is it that, that, that
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big of a difference?
What, here's what it came downto at Orange County Convention
Center where we do the show.
There's Chapin Theater where wehad it in 2021.
Not too expensive to do it inChapin Theater.
Less than a million dollars torun the entire show.
Close to a million, but lessthan well.
They only have like, I thinkit's 2,600 seats, so we knew
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that wasn't gonna cut it, so wehad to build out our own
auditorium.
And you saw it, you saw thestage, you saw the lights, you
saw the racking.
I mean, it was concert quality,literally concert quality.
We hired the people out ofAtlanta that do concerts.
They do all of John Maxwell'sevents and they're expensive.
And it was right at a quarter orthree quarters of a million
dollars just to build out the AVand everything for this show
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this last year.
Then we didn't have our 5,000hurricane hit about two weeks
before we started seeingeverybody online talk about, oh,
well, I don't know if I'm gonnacome.
I got a lot of work to dealwith.
And then the week of, everybodystarted saying, oh, there's
another hurricane coming.
They're saying it's gonna hitOrlando.
I don't know if I'm gonna come.
So we started to get prettyfearful of, oh man, this could
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be really bad.
And sure enough, it went down to3,400, which was still great.
We still had.
50% growth from 2021, but notenough to cover what we had
spent for the show.
So that was my ugly for lastyear.
But we're battling back fromthat man.
We're looking forward to areally good show this year.
I'm super excited about it.
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The attendees that we do havecome out, the vendors that we do
have come out.
They're some of the best peoplein the industry.
I think that most of them alignwith our values of integrity,
leadership, legacy, and theyunderstand the importance of
having an event that is focusedmore on the personal side than
just the business side.
Corey Berrier (20:49):
Yeah, I, you look, I mean, I like, I thought
it was one of the best thrownevents and I've gone to many
events but I did think it was, Ithought it was so well put
together.
And the people that you hadspeak were tremendous as well.
So
Hunter Bellew (21:07):
you had,
Corey Berrier (21:08):
You jumped outta one fire into the next.
Can we go into and I think Iknow what it is, but I'm not a
hundred percent.
And I know that you went throughsome stuff, soldier company, I
think, and then you bought itback, right?
Is that right?
Yep.
So that wasn't an easy processthough, right?
No, not
Hunter Bellew (21:26):
exactly.
Corey Berrier (21:28):
So can you talk about that for
Hunter Bellew (21:29):
a minute?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, 2021, beginning of 2021,March 1st, specifically sold my
company Cornerstone to anothercompany outta California.
Got a good chunk, few milliondollars upfront in cash.
Got a bunch of shares, millionsof dollars in shares as well.
About six months, eight monthsgoes by, the stock starts to go
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down pretty bad.
At one year I had what's calleda make whole provision inside of
my contract, and this is allpublic, like you can look it up
and fact check if you'd like to.
It is still on the internet ifyou look me up.
But inside of the contract, ithas what's called a make whole
provision.
So of the$45 million in stockthat I got, if the stock price
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dropped, they had to make upthat amount so that I was made
whole at$45 million.
So just for example, if I had 45million shares at a dollar reach
and it drops to 50%, well theyhave to gimme another.
45 million shares.
So I have 90 million at 50 centsto be made all at$45 million
across the board.
Does that make sense?
It does.
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Yep.
So it dropped to 32 cents.
So the total, I, I think it waslike 127 million was the total,
something like that.
'cause I was actually owedshares from another deal that I
helped put together, bringinganother company.
I was being paid on that.
So I'm pretty sure the number,if I remember correctly, was
like 127 million shares.
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So tough spot for them, I getit.
Giving out 127 million sharesdilutes the shit out of the rest
of the shares that you have.
It kind of creates some fear inthe stockholders that you have.
And it wouldn't have been good,but at the same rate, like for
me, I felt like I did my part.
I pulled my weight, I did what Isaid I was gonna do, and so I
wasn't gonna go down without afight.
Well, we ended up coming to anagreement.
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I what I felt like was prettyfair to where I kept all the
cash I had gotten, I kept abouta fourth of the shares that I
had gotten and that way I couldpay my team.
That was a big part of.
My negotiation with them is Isaid, Hey man, when I sold the
company, part of the deal was Iwas gonna give X to my team
members.
There was about 50 of'em totalthat I was gonna give shares to.
That helped me build thecompany.
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And so when I renegotiated tosettle with them, get my company
back, keep the millions ofdollars in cash.
And keep some of the shares.
I just wanted to make sure thatI was able to give the people
that were a part of it, theshares that I had promised.
So we did that.
They all got their shares.
In fact, everyone got at leastwhat they were promised or more,
and then I was able to hold ontoa few million shares myself as
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well.
So it went good, man.
People ask me all the time,would I change it, during that
season of life.
Maybe I would've said I'd havechanged it just'cause I was
stressed.
I mean, I definitely lost somehair over it.
You see how bad I'm thinningright here, man.
But no it was a I don't knowthat I'd say a good experience,
but it was I learned a lot,right?
Like, people always talk aboutdue diligence.
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If you're gonna buy a company,sure.
Do your due diligence for sure.
Spend six months, dig into it,look at every number.
But on the flip side, if you'rethe one selling your company,
Also do your due diligence.
Make sure that they align withyour values, that they're legit
that they have the cash neededto grow the company.
All the things.
So yeah, I don't regret it.
I'm appreciative for theopportunity.
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I learned a lot.
I came out smelling pretty goodat the end of it.
There's a lot of hatersthroughout the process.
So it felt good to, to get whatI got and kind of be like, Hey,
look, if you can't put two andtwo together after seeing what I
got and got my company back, youjust don't like me anyways and
you're never gonna believe it.
And at Roof Con 2022, man, I'vetold this story a couple times.
(25:05):
Tim Tebow and me were sitting upthere on stage doing the q and
a, and he started talking aboutwhen he was at the University of
Florida and how many peoplehated him, like on social media,
always getting bashed tagged andstuff.
The media.
And he said right there on stagetalking to me that when he was
young, he went home.
He was upset, like kind of tearsin his eyes type thing to his
(25:26):
dad.
Like, dad, I don't understandwhy so many people hate me.
Like I feel like I'm a goodperson.
I'm trying to do the rightthing.
Like we're women all the stuff.
And his dad patted him on theback and said, Timmy.
He called him Timmy, which is sofunny.
You see the big old dude and hegoes by Timmy.
He said, Timmy.
It doesn't matter what you do,buddy.
Some people in this world arejust not gonna like you.
If they would get to know you,they would like you.
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Some of'em just don't ever wannaget to know you.
And that's how it hit me, dude,right in my gut when he said
that, I'll never forget sittingup there with him.
It hit me in the gut and I wasthinking, damn, that is so true,
man.
Like if all these haters, allthese people posting stuff about
me and about my family, andabout my son, that I wanted to
freaking drive to their houseand beat their ass for saying
stupid stuff on social media.
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All these people, if they wouldget to know me, They'd like me.
They would know me.
They would see my heart.
They'd see the impact that wemake in not only this industry,
but across the country, acrossthe world, with the challenges
and the retreats and the eventsand all the things.
But some people, man, they justwanna run their mouth.
They don't want to get to knowyou, and we just have to accept
that and be okay with it.
I don't have to please a hundredpercent of the people if I can
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please.
1% of the people, there's 6billion people on Earth.
I'm doing pretty good.
Yeah.
Corey Berrier (26:37):
That had to be tough though.
I mean, at the time that had tobe really tough knowing that
that you did do the right thing,but people just, and people are
ruthless.
People say shit to me online andI'm like, you just, you just
kind of a idiot.
Like, just stop.
Hunter Bellew (26:53):
I, six
Corey Berrier (26:55):
months ago, I would've completely taken it
personal.
Now it just doesn't even I can'teven allow it to.
A part in my, I just can't,like, I just don't have
Hunter Bellew (27:04):
time for it, and it's really not worth my, there,
there's not even, not even justthe people saying stuff, man,
just the situation, it createssome self-doubt in your head.
You're like, man I sold mycompany for$48 million.
Ultimately ended up being a lotless than that.
Again I kept a good bit of itbut I got my company back.
Now it's okay.
Let's do this again.
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And maybe this isn't for theright reason.
This is a whole notherconversation we could have
another day.
But you know, a lot of peoplesay don't do stuff to prove
people wrong.
Well, guess what, man, thatfuels me.
And I've always said, I believeit's a push and a pull.
The pull is you looking out.
At your mission, your vision,the thing that you believe in
and letting it pull you.
But every once in a while, man,that just ain't enough.
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It's just not like, let's behonest, we can pretend that
every day we wake up, motivated,ready to go.
But unless you're part of the0.0, zero zero 1% that are like
that, it don't happen foreverybody.
Sometimes you gotta take a lookback at all the haters, all the
people that said you couldn't,and all the people that said you
wouldn't and let that push you.
So I absolutely believe it's apull and a push.
So I like to use that as a pushman.
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Like, I'm gonna show all thesepeople.
I went out, I boughtroofing.com.
I've built that into asuccessful business that's
killing it as partners allacross the country.
We have a conference that hasthousands of people.
We have an app that has 82,000users every single day.
We're getting more users.
Every single month we're gettingthousands of users and taking
companies from our competitors.
I'm out to prove some peoplewrong, and that's okay.
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I don't say that with ego, butit's for myself.
Like I wanna show myself that Ican do it.
Corey Berrier (28:33):
Yeah, I look, I get it a hundred percent.
Tell me about what, kind ofswitching gears a little bit,
tell me what it was like in yourmarriage during that time,
because stress, I'm married,you're married, both have kids.
That's, it's stressful to beginwith.
But what is, what, how did youmanage that?
(28:56):
Stress throughout that time withyou and your wife?
How did that how did that, let'ssee, how did that maybe detract
from your relationship?
Or did it make you go in more?
How did it affect
Hunter Bellew (29:07):
you?
Yeah, man, I think if anythingstronger made us stronger my
wife is so supportive, man, likesuper, super supportive.
And the, part of it man is like,One of my it's a funny story
actually.
One of my partners in one of mybusinesses, he is pretty well
known guy, but he had somewhatof a similar story where he got
(29:28):
in a big lawsuit.
His was more, they were tryingto accuse him of some criminal
stuff, like going to jail, notjust business.
And his wife left him during it.
And this was like 20 years ago.
He's a lot older than me.
His wife left him with me.
My wife and I really felt likewe got stronger, got closer.
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And part of that is because shewas there for all of it, man.
Like she saw every conversation,she saw every negotiation.
She flew with me to Californiato do it right.
Like she knows what I said.
She saw the text messages, sheknows that I'm not BSing or
didn't do some, crap out ofintegrity.
She saw it and even if shedidn't see it, she just knows
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that's not who I am.
I'd rather make.
Break in$24,000 a year workingat the fire department.
Have to stay up late at nightbecause I have a conscience.
Un, unlike some people, like, I,I just couldn't do it.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna freaking, I wannahave nothing to hide.
That's another one that we putin there for Turner.
When we say one of our, one ofhis life laws is gonna be
integrity and the mantra isnothing to hide, I got nothing
(30:31):
to hide, dude.
Like I'll just.
You ask me anything You asked memy I tell you it's longer than
it.
Nothing to hide real.
For Maggie, she saw that she wassupportive of it.
I didn't like tell her everysingle little thing that
happened because I didn't wannastress her out.
Right.
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But it was nothing that I washiding from her.
It was just, I'm gonna tell herwhat she needs to know, and some
of it, I don't wanna stress herout.
And if I need to talk tosomebody, I got people that I
can talk to.
I can seek guidance from, advicementors that I have.
So it was good man.
And like, it just made merealize that.
I came from a single widetrailer.
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It was the first place I movedafter I moved outta my grandma's
house, she started dating me.
I was living there in a littlesingle wide trailer.
It's actually like a quartermile through the woods from
where I'm sitting right now inmy office.
Funny enough, talk about acrappy trailer.
That thing had to be made inlike the sixties or something,
like falling apart.
But I lived there.
She was there with me, right?
So she saw that she experiencedit.
(31:32):
If I had to go back to that,she'd still be there with me and
she would still be just ashappy.
I know that I'm not just sayingthat'cause that's a cliche thing
to say, I'm dead ass serious.
My wife would still be with meand be just as happy as long as
I was there with her and we weretaking care of the kids
together.
So that is really reassuringwhen you're having a lot of
(31:52):
self-doubt and question yourselfis to know that your partner,
your best friend, your ride ordie.
It's truly a rotted die.
Like she's gonna be therethrough it all.
Thick and thin.
Good and bad.
Yeah.
Corey Berrier (32:06):
I would say the exact same thing about my life.
We, when we got married, we, notin a trailer, but little shitty
condo that we were re I wasrenting like it, nothing
compared to where, not that weare anything great now, but the
point is like it wouldn'tmatter.
It just, it really wouldn'tmatter.
I.
And I don't know if most peoplecan say that.
(32:28):
I, in fact, I question if a lotof people can say that, so many
damn divorces that happen that,I think it's really a special
thing when you find someone thatyou can depend on.
You find someone that it doeshave your back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hunter Bellew (32:44):
By the way, is your camera moving?
Yeah, it's an app like Move WithYou.
Yep.
It's freaking me out, dude.
I was like, what the fuck, dude?
Corey Berrier (32:51):
Sometimes I leave it.
Sometimes if it goes reallyfast, sometimes it'll zoom in
and out.
I don't know if it's done that'cause I haven't been looking at
it, but when it does that you'llreally be freaked out'cause it
goes way out and way back again.
Hunter Bellew (33:03):
I took one of my guys at Cornerstone to eat pizza
today and I spoke it all over.
He's like, dude, you're gonnahave to change before that
podcast.
I was like, nah, man.
In honor of.
Erico be authentic or get theOh, yeah, that's right.
Corey Berrier (33:17):
That's right.
Solid.
Hunter Bellew (33:18):
Solid dude.
Corey Berrier (33:19):
Well, so where, so what's the, what new things
are you working on since I sawyou last year at Roof Con?
I mean, AI's a big deal.
AI's, I mean, there's so manythings that we could talk about
with ai, but I would like tobring that into the conversation
where you see, Where do you seethat working?
(33:39):
For the roofing industry?
Hunter Bellew (33:42):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll kind of give two examplesof how I think could be useful
for any business owners that arelistening to this podcast.
Number one on a sales front is,Using something like chat, g p t
just for copywriting.
We were talking about it preshowed, but there's a lot of
guys that don't really know howto write copy.
(34:02):
They don't know how to writesales copy.
They don't know how to set upthe call to action to create the
body, to get an engagingheadline, to get people to read
it.
And so for.
Anyone that doesn't know how toor is afraid to just to get
started, dude it's so easy to goin and check g p t and give it a
prompt of, please write me asales copy on how to sell the
Mastermind Revolt using the toneof Hunter Ballou, Corey Barrier
(34:26):
grant Cardone, like literallyyou can give the tone of the
person you want to copy.
Like, I told you, like I, I toldmy wife about this like a week
ago.
I was like, Hey, check this out.
So I went, I said basically whatI just said about selling the
Revolt Mastermind and the toneof Hunter Blue, and it started
it off with Ha Fam, and she'slike, oh my God, that's crazy.
(34:46):
You say that all the time, butit really does, it can read
through, you know anyone thatputs out a lot of content, it'll
read through it and a 30seconds, you got a 500 word
thousand word post that you canleverage.
And it's just like anything, youdon't have to use a hundred
percent of it.
If there's something you don'tlike or you want to tweak,
change it, but use it.
And then on the business ownerfront man, Something we're doing
(35:08):
for our roofa.com partners andour revolt members is we have
tons of content, like hours andhours and hours of content.
Well, sometimes, they mightwanna be able to go in and
search and say, Hey, where dothese guys talk about tax
strategy?
Or, where do they talk aboutFacebook ads?
And they don't wanna have tolook through every single video
to find it or look through allthe titles or, e even better,
(35:28):
even if.
There's a section that saysFacebook ads, and they just
click on the first video still.
You gotta sit there and watchthe video for the exact part
you're talking about.
So there's this platform calledSearch that we're starting to
use where you can go in.
It'll upload all of your contentthat you have.
And I'm saying this'cause ifyou're a business owner and you
have a training platform, you'veprobably heard me talk about Six
(35:48):
Figure Blueprint.
If you ever heard me speak ortalk about or be on a podcast,
but Six Figure Blueprint, havingyour own sales training
platform, you can have search inthere.
And if they type in 2, 3, 4keywords that they wanna see,
it'll literally pull the exactmoment in every video where you
talk about that.
So the speed at being able totrain faster is so much easier
(36:11):
with a AI nowadays than it wasbefore.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Corey Berrier (36:16):
I trained a bot on my podcast, and so you can go
in and ask whatever you want,like if it's we're talking
about, if we're talking aboutyou could punch in roofing and
this podcast is going to come upand it takes you right to the
episode, which the way I seethat is, I mean, if I can give
people access to it that easily,well, I'm gonna get more
(36:38):
downloads.
That's how I see it.
Hunter Bellew (36:41):
Yeah, for sure.
It's crazy what all I can donow, man.
It is
Corey Berrier (36:45):
absolutely nuts.
Hunter Bellew (36:47):
It's just like anything else we've seen over
the last five decades.
We can hate it.
We can be afraid of it, we canignore it, but eventually it's
gonna take over.
Your competitors are gonna beusing it.
Listen if you're the dude that's35, 40 years old, you're like,
ah, I'm not doing that stuff.
10 years ago you started using aC R M and you were making fun of
(37:11):
the 50 year old who refused touse a C R M and kept doing stuff
on paper.
Don't be the guy that refuses touse AI to leverage it.
'cause it is coming.
And your competitors, the 20year olds, the 25 year olds that
are getting the game right noware going to use it.
So you might as well get aheadof the game.
Corey Berrier (37:27):
I think it's like the internet.
I think it's like when theinternet came out I think it's
that big.
Yeah.
Hunter Bellew (37:33):
Yeah.
It's Maybe even bigger thanthat.
We'll see.
They just keep figuring out moreand more stuff you can do with
it.
Yeah,
Corey Berrier (37:39):
no, I, yeah, I totally agree.
But it is important get on boardbecause if you're not, dude,
you're gonna be, people aregonna be left behind and that
breaks my heart because it's so,and I shouldn't say it's easy.
Because it can be complex if,depending on what it is you're
looking for, what you're usingit for, or if you don't know how
to use it, just to, as you said,chat, g p t, like you.
(38:00):
If you don't know how to ask it,the right question to prompt it,
you might get a crazy answer.
But don't stop at that.
If you don't know what to askit, just ask Chad, g p t what?
Asking
Hunter Bellew (38:12):
yeah.
Corey Berrier (38:14):
So, well Hunter, dude, I really appreciate you
coming on today.
I really enjoyed thisconversation.
If you could just tell everybodyone about your book, if you
don't mind.
Tell everybody where they canwhen Roofing dot, when Roofing.
Good Lord.
Roof con's gonna be, I almostsaid roofing.com and,
Hunter Bellew (38:30):
Where people can find you.
Yeah, man.
So the book if you're an audibleperson, you can look it up on
Audible, you can get it there ifyou're a hardback person, or
even if you just wanna put it onthe shelf like I do, I usually
listen to'em on Audible.
Then I'll buy a hard copy justso I look cool when people come
to my office.
I'd be happy to give away likethe first 20 people that text me
(38:51):
from this podcast or message meon Facebook.
I'll just send you a hard capcopy for free.
After that you can just go toAmazon and pick one up.
Roof Con is in Orlando thisyear, November 9th through the
11th.
And then if you wanna find me,like I said, I'm on Facebook,
check me out.
I'm more active on Facebook thanany other platform.
Just through my profile there.
Happy to help out in any way Ican.
(39:13):
Any more information on me isrep card.com/hunter.
Perfect.
Thank you brother.
I appreciate you.
Appreciate you man.
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