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September 24, 2025 58 mins

Murray Jensen joins Kevin Patton to explore dual enrollment in anatomy & physiology. From guided inquiry to the power of teacher communities, this conversation reveals why messy classrooms often yield the best results.

00:00 | Introduction

00:48 | Murray Jensen, HAPS President's Medal Laureate

02:27 | What Is Dual Enrollment, Anyway?

11:44 | Two-Word Check-In*

12:53 | Guided Inquiry, Not Guided Napping

25:51 | Concept Echo*

26:37 | No, Not Nightly Recorded Lectures

31:09 | Rigor Reality Check*

32:11 | Rigor, Range, & Real Talk

39:25 | Respect Reframe*

40:02 | Why It Matters: Heart, Head, & High School

47:55 | Slide Diet*

49:06 | Money, Mission, & a Playbook for Best Practices

54:04 | Staying Connected

* Breaks


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"The classroom remains the most radical space of possibility in the academy." (bell hooks)

 

Murray Jensen, HAPS President's Medal Laureate

1.5 minutes

Kevin introduces his guest, Murray Jensen, a Professor of Biology Teaching and Learning at the University of Minnesota. He highlights Murray's research focus on teaching and learning in human anatomy and physiology, his emphasis on POGIL and cooperative learning, and his many awards, including the 2024 HAPS President's Medal. Kevin also notes Murray's warm reputation as a mentor and colleague, framing the conversation as both professional and deeply personal.

 

Dual Enrollment in A&P: Murray Jensen on Rigor, Pedagogy, and Community | TAPP 155

 

What is Dual Enrollment, Anyway?

9 minutes

Murray explains how dual enrollment works in Minnesota through the College in the Schools program, which currently involves 28 high schools and 1,100 students. He emphasizes the importance of professional development and the community of practice that keeps teachers connected, supported, and inspired. Kevin shares his own experiences with dual enrollment, reflecting on how it shaped his career and outlook as an educator.

 

Guided Inquiry, Not Guided Napping

13 minutes

This segment digs into pedagogy. Murray describes his approach to selecting teachers, focusing on passion and spark, and how he encourages them to adopt guided inquiry and cooperative group learning. He shares stories about the challenges of letting go of control in the classroom, and how productive messiness often leads to deeper learning. Kevin adds his own examples, reinforcing that guided inquiry transforms classrooms into vibrant, memorable learning spaces.

 

No, Not Nightly Recorded Lectures

4.5 minutes

Murray makes the case against online-only dual enrollment mode

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