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September 22, 2025 • 42 mins

In this compelling episode, host Duane Osterlind sits down with Mo Edjlali, founder of The Mindful Leader and author of the groundbreaking book "Open MBSR: Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction - Reimagining the Future of Mindfulness." Mo sounds an important alarm about a rarely discussed topic in the wellness world: how guided meditations, when overused or misapplied, can actually cause harm.

This conversation dives deep into Mo's personal transformation from a high-pressure tech entrepreneur to a mindfulness advocate, and his critical examination of the modern mindfulness movement. Mo doesn't shy away from controversial topics, exploring issues like power dynamics, Buddhist entanglements, rigid frameworks, spiritual materialism, and the commoditization of ancient practices.

Drawing on 15 years of experience in the field, Mo offers a transformative framework rooted in open collaboration, collective wisdom, and genuine secular integrity. This is a nuanced conversation that challenges listeners to think critically about mindfulness while honoring its profound potential for healing and growth.

Key Takeaways

  • Mindfulness requires balance: The nine attitudes of mindfulness can become harmful when taken to extremes without dialectical thinking
  • Community is essential: Practicing mindfulness in isolation misses the powerful healing potential of collective practice
  • Transparency matters: The field needs honest conversations about Buddhist influences and commercial interests
  • Critical thinking strengthens practice: Questioning and debate enhance rather than diminish the mindfulness movement
  • Small steps create change: Even in dark moments, simple actions like making your bed can be the foundation for healing


About Mo Edjlali

Mo Edjlali is the founder of The Mindful Leader and author of "Open MBSR: Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction - Reimagining the Future of Mindfulness." With a background in computer engineering and entrepreneurship, Mo discovered mindfulness during a personal crisis in 2008-2009. He has since become a leading voice for ethical, community-based approaches to mindfulness practice.

Mo's organization is the largest provider of MBSR (Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction) training internationally, with 550 alumni from organizations like Headspace, Hilton, Starbucks, and Navy Federal. He pioneered online mindfulness training and created the world's first global mindfulness community center through the Meditate Together platform.

Resources

  • Mo's Website: mindfulleader.org
  • Book Landing Page: openmbsr.com
  • Connect on LinkedIn: Mo Edjlali
  • Book: "Open MBSR: Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction - Reimagining the Future of Mindfulness" (Available on Amazon and local bookstores)

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This episode offers a rare, honest examination of both the profound benefits and potential pitfalls of mindfulness practice. Mo's willingness to challenge the status quo while maintaining deep respect for the transformative power of these ancient practices makes this a must-listen for anyone interested in authentic spiritual growth and mental health.


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