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Along the way there I had had
a bit of a health scare.
That also really was part of why
it went to my head, "I've got to get this
done." It created some fear
in my children that I never wanted to
experience again.
And if there's something I could do to change
that, by hell or high water, I
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was going to.
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Welcome back to another episode of
The Fasting Method podcast.
This is Terri Lance and it's been a hot
minute since I've been here, so I'm very
excited to be back.
And I'm very excited because
I get to talk today with
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our Coach Jamie Cipriani.
Jamie, how are you doing?
I am good. Happy to be here.
Awesome.
Well, Jamie, I realized that we
never really got to have much
of an opportunity to kind of introduce you to
our listeners and to our community.
You've been doing a lot of work in the
Community for a few years now, and have been
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around the Community longer than that.
But I know you and I did a podcast about
a book that we both really valued,
so I wanted to start today
and get to talk a little bit about who
you are and what you bring to the table
in your work at TFM.
So if you could give us a little bit of the
background of what brought you to
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TFM and what your experiences have
been in your own health journey.
Oh, where do I begin?
[laughs] What brought me to TFM-- Actually,
I was really fortunate that I had a doctor--
actually she was a nurse practitioner (I have
nothing but respect for nurse practitioners,
they are amazing), and she had been
helping me with my health journey for a long
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time.
I was always battling weight
issues since I was young,
thyroid issues, autoimmune issues.
And when I was really getting hitting a wall,
she's the one who said, "I think you might
want to check out fasting." And this was
back in late 2018, 2019,
around there.
So, of course, I got home,
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Googled, put in fasting, and
what comes up of course...
Dr. Fung and Megan Ramos.
So I went hard down the rabbit hole,
read all the books - The Obesity Code, etc.,
Megan's books.
I started fasting a little bit on my
own and I really
realized I needed more support.
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So I reached out to-- back
then, it wasn't even The Fasting Method.
It was still IDM.
It was not this amazing, beautiful community
that we have now online.
But I reached out and I started
coaching.
Again, it was a very different format than it
is today.
But that really was the impetus of my
journey.
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Along the way there, I had had
a bit of a health scare
that also really was part of why
it went to my head, "I've got to get this
done." It created some fear
in my children that I never wanted to
experience again.
And if there's something I could do to change
that, by hell or high water, I
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was going to.
So I started my coaching
and I was hooked.
[laughs] Through the
work, it took me a while.
I'm still a work in progress,
but, thus far, I have
lost-- shed 70 pounds.
I've reversed my autoimmune
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disease, which was rheumatoid arthritis.
I'm still working with
the thyroid; it goes up and down, up and down
as you heal. It's also constant adjusting,
but it's been just an amazing
journey.
And then I was trucking along,
just going to some groups (actually, I
couldn't make many groups), but then a little
thing happened in the world called COVID.
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Just a minor little adjustment that we had to
go through!
That little blip.
Exactly.
And all of a sudden, for the first time in
40-some years, I was home.
I could actually go to meetings.
And TFM was...
I don't even know how to explain what it was
during COVID.
It was an anomaly little slice of heaven
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for all of us members, truly.
The coaches were there,
we had extended hours.
There seemed to be meetings around the clock
to give people so much support that they
needed. And that's really when I dove into
the Community.
I feel like I was in a group at
least four or five hours a day, sometimes
well over that.
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And I really feel like I became
part of The Fasting Method at that point,
and I was honored to.
That's when Megan started having
what we now call our mentors.
So I became a mentor, which
means I would-- back then, mentors
would even lead some Community groups.
We would lead challenges, we would
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help out in the meetings.
So as far back as 2020, I started
that kind of a role at The Fasting Method,
and it has just kind
of spiraled and continue to grow.
A few years ago, I became officially
on board and I started doing
more Community groups.
I then got certified also as
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a meditation teacher.
And talk about a dream come true
for a brand new meditation teacher.
The ink was barely dried on my certification
and Megan said, "Okay, well, now you're
starting meditation groups for us."
I know people who search high and low to ever
have that type of opportunity when they're
becoming a meditation teacher.
So now I have been doing that for a few
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years as well, bringing that to the
Community.
I think that's a really important piece.
We become really good fasters in this
community. We figure out what foods
work for us.
It's that stress.
I don't have to tell you this.
It's the behavioral issues or emotions.
So being able to bring that piece
of meditation, I hope it's
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been worthwhile, I think it has, to really
help with that side of the journey.
I definitely know that it's been really
helpful.
It's so funny. I was just in a coaching
meeting the other day with one of my clients
and he said, "Well, you know, maybe we could
just meditate during these sessions." And I
thought, oh my gosh,
he is in with the wrong person.
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And I said, "Yeah, we could do that, but I
gotta tell you, I'm not the strongest
meditation person." He said, "Oh no, no,
no, we can just sit quietly for a little
bit." And I thought, okay, that I can do.
But definitely, your role at
TFM, and what you bring, has been
so valuable because you really
do this beautiful focus on
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kind of being more in touch with ourselves.
Every time I say this now in a meeting, I
give, you know, homage to you
about like using the strategy of
honoring the pause, and
how important that is for so many
of us in so many different ways.
So I'm quoting Jamie, I'm
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referring to you, I'm encouraging
people to go to your meetings, go to your
meditations, because you do
talk about these things in a way
that some of us don't.
We don't have that same background.
So I love that you bring that to the table.
And I loved getting to hear again about
your journey, because I've been
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present at TFM throughout your time
here, and it was reminding
me like, wow, that was over five years
ago now, or about five years ago,
when I really got to know you and got to
have more time with you
and getting to be involved in your journey
and things. So it's really great to hear
you share that with us here.
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So, Jamie, one of the reasons I wanted to
have you on now-- and just
realizing, gosh, we haven't gotten to talk
about this other stuff, but to have you on
now because there's another new, exciting,
additional part of your role at TFM
that is just in the beginnings.
And so I wondered if you could talk a little
bit about your new
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endeavor as an accountability coach.
Yeah, it's very exciting.
I've worn many hats so far [laughs] here
at The Fasting Method, but this is my
first foray into (besides the Community
groups) more actual coaching.
What I'm excited about is the
new offering of an accountability coach.
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I think so many people in this community,
that's really what we need.
I know that's what I needed.
I didn't have, at that point,
real big health issues,
metabolic issues, any
real serious medical things that needed to be
turned around.
I needed accountability.
I needed someone to support me along
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the way, someone who would
really walk the journey and this path
with me.
And so I'm excited that now that's
exactly what we're offering in coaching.
As a accountability coach, our
purpose, my purpose will
be to really support
my clients on their fasting,
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their eating, and their healing journey,
every step of the way.
Really being there to help
change up their fasting schedules,
to work on their nutritional needs,
to be a partner with them
when they need help, when they
feel like they're stumbling, when they need
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a cheerleader, even when they may
need a little tough love.
That's what I am so excited
to be there for.
I just know how important having that is
on this journey because you can feel really
alone.
Even though we have an amazing,
supportive community and the groups,
sometimes this health journey can be a little
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a little scary, a little frightening, a
little lonely.
And so I'm really excited as an
accountability coach to help be there, to
hold space for you, to listen,
to work through those issues together,
and really to help you be the best
you want to be, the healthiest you want to
be, and realize the life that we can
live once we really harness
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all of this.
Yeah, that's really powerful, Jamie, and I
also, just in knowing you over time,
know that, as you said, that was what you
really needed. You
didn't come to this with a lack of knowledge,
you came to this with challenges
of implementation of all of the knowledge
because it's complicated,
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and that accountability being so important
for many of us.
I know for me it's showing up
to be (in connection with someone else)
in connection with someone else, really
holds me to showing up for myself,
because on my own, I think
I'm going to do it, I want to do it,
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and then 400 other things come
up that encourage me not to do it.
And so that accountability piece feels so
important, and I think your own
insight into what accountability
means for you is really
significant in the work that you
do as an accountability coach
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to really, like you said, to hold that space
for people.
I think one of the things that any of us
as a coach does that is so
powerful is we help people to see themselves
more realistically, and,
based on what I know of everything
that you do with people, I think you help
people see that best version of
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themselves.
You highlight the strengths,
you highlight the progress, even
through difficulties.
And just, you know, on a friendship level,
I've always gotten that from you, that you
can take a very realistic look at it and say,
"Yes, but..." and offer
that positive, seeing
myself in a mirror, and holding me
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to that. So I know that that's something
that you do with members and clients, and
I know we're all better for it.
So I really appreciate that about you.
Yeah, to your point, Terri (and thank you for
that, those kind words),
I do think it's so important.
I think that, as an accountability
coach, again, it's really
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being there for that person,
seeing that person, meeting them
where they're at, sometimes
pushing them along, you know, challenging
them, like I said.
And what you said just reminded me of
a really beautiful tradition
that goes back really centuries.
It's actually from African bushmen.
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It goes back centuries and centuries.
And it's how they greeted each other over
time. When they hear someone coming,
they would say, "I see you."
And then the other person would say, "I am
here." What you were saying just reminded me
of that, that's so beautiful.
I think, as an accountability coach, I'm
here to see you and be here
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for you.
And so it just reminded me-- if you know
me, you know I'm a quote person.
[laughs] I like to find these quotes andsayings.
I really love that, too, because not only is
it, "I see you," and I think we all
need that. It's affirming, it's validating,
and for some of us, it's scary.
It's scary to be seen because we've learned
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to do a lot of this journey silently,
in our head, hidden in a closet,
eating things we know aren't
going to work well for us, and things.
And so to allow ourselves to be seen,
to be seen and acknowledged.
And then I love the response, "I am here,"
because that to me is like embodying
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ourselves as we're being seen
and valuing our
own presence here, rather than hiding
from our presence or hiding from this
journey.
So that's really powerful.
Thank you, again.
And that's one thing I really also so
admire about-- not only,
hopefully, what I will bring to the table as
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a coach, but what all the coaches at
The Fasting Method bring to the table - we
were all in our client's shoes.
You know?
I don't think any of us weren't.
And so we've been there.
We understand the struggle.
We understand the hiding.
And also we understand the joy of when
something clicks.
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So I think it brings to the table
just a different level of coaching
and support that we can do having
walked everyone else's shoes on this journey.
Absolutely.
I've been trying to reiterate this wherever
possible for the past couple of months,
because saying it somewhere-- it
might have been in a Coachs' Corner meeting
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or somewhere else, but a couple of Community
members said it was so good for them
to hear us acknowledge that we, as coaches,
also have things that are challenging
and also struggle at times.
Because I think otherwise the perception
is like we are someone on Mount High
looking down and, "Okay,
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you can get where I am because
I did..." versus, "I totally
get it, and I still struggle
with things." I might come across
like, "Oh yeah, I know how to do this," but
that doesn't mean in the moment I'm not
questioning myself or
feeling alone in it, like you said.
So I think that recognition
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that you, as an accountability coach, or
any of us coaches here at
The Fasting Method, we really, I hope,
always are able to be clear
about how we struggle to.
We are not perfect and we don't expect
anyone to be perfect.
And you know that idea of just showing
up for each other, allowing ourselves
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to be seen, and seeing each other, and
walking through this journey together, as you
said, I think is so important.
So, Jamie, we've just been acknowledging one
of your many strengths that you bring to the
table as an accountability coach,
and I wanted to touch on another one.
You've highlighted it a couple times today,
but I want to really take note of it
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because I think you have a really
nice way of doing this.
You're also a New Yorker
[laughter] and you have a directness
about you.
Now, I have come across some very direct
people in my life, and I stay away
from them because, man,
I sometimes have very thin skin and can
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feel very off-put by things.
But I've always felt with you that
it's this really insightful
awareness of what you will point out,
but it's never done harshly.
You have a good sense of humor.
You have a good way of kind of saying it,
maybe even a little tentatively, like, "Do
you think this might be..." And so
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I've really come to value that so
much in you and that you can be very direct
and give people hard things
to hear, but never make
them hard to hear from you, that you
do them with kindness and
connection and respect.
And so that's just another piece I wanted to
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highlight about my experience
with you, and what I think our Community
members and clients get to experience with
you as well.
Thank you. Yes, I will never apologize for my
New Yorkness.
[laughs] Once a New Yorker, always a New
Yorker.
But yeah, you know I do try
to do that because I think there is a time
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that we need a little bit more directness,
so to speak.
I know I did.
You were my coach and
I think you have that same quality.
There were times I didn't like you very much
for that moment. [laughter]
I think you even may have accused
me of only sharing certain charts
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to make people cry.
There were some tears involved.
Yes, yes there were.
But I think when you step back, and I think
if you have hopefully initially built
that trust and relationship
with your clients, they know that
any directness is out of that compassion
and love and just wanting the best
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for them. It took me a minute to sit back
when you were doing it to me, but I really
did feel that.
And what better way than having someone
in your corner also giving you a
little bit of the truth?
Sometimes this journey comes with some hard
truths. We have to kind of look at ourselves,
our behaviors, are WHY of
those behaviors.
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It's not easy, but I think
it can be accomplished.
And when you do that, and you can do that
with a maybe a firm but loving,
compassionate hand, so
much amazing work and progress can happen.
That's the same goal, right?
We want everyone to succeed here, every one
of us to be happy and healthy,
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and also to discover-- this is a little bit
for my meditation groupies, but discover
the magnificent beings that
we are.
Health and happiness
and joy is our birthright.
Every one of us were born with
that, and hopefully
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I'm just there as a guide to help you on
the path to see you have that all
brought to light.
Yeah, if you think about it in that way, as
you just described it, it's really almost
like not sharing a gift or
withholding something to not
tell someone something that's hard to hear.
Obviously, again, when done respectfully,
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it's like almost disrespectful
to let people stay in there.
"I'm just going to do it like this and it's
going to be fine," rather than just say,
"I see you and it's not working.
Let's change the direction here.
Let's tweak something." So it's really
powerful.
All right. Well, Jamie, I think you and I
could definitely go on, as we often
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do in our own meetings, we could go on for
hours and hours, but I wanted
to make sure that listeners
know, whether they're already a member
at TFM or if they've never
joined TFM, but they're interested,
having listened to this, how would
they get connected with you to start
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doing this accountability coaching work?
You can reach out to-- [see link in show
notes] if you go to The Fasting Method
website, what you'll find is
the coaching program.
If you click on that, you'll be taken to the
coaches. You'll see the accountability
coaches, and I'll be right there on
that. You can click through.
It's pretty self-explanatory.
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It'll say book a session.
Initially, we do a 15-minute
initial assessment where we just take
those 15 minutes, it's a real brief-- but
just to kind of see if it's the right fit,
get to know each other.
I'll explain to you how I work, how the
program works, a little tidbit about TFM
and what else we have to offer if you sign up
for a coaching package.
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You also get a membership for six months
within the Community.
I could go on for hours about the benefits of
that, but I'll do that in our session.
And yeah, but then I'll just send you
everything, we can start working together
and make some magic.
Very good. I also want to share, from a
technical standpoint, at the
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time that this episode is initially
airing, there is a promotion
for accountability coaching.
So if you're interested in
accountability coaching, you also can get
a 25% discount on that.
And that is whether you are currently
a member of TFM or, again, have never
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been a member of TFM, you are eligible
for that discount for the accountability
coaching.
And that is a big bonus
right now and I'm very excited to get to
offer that. So I hope that
any of our listeners who have
felt that connection with you throughout this
session, Jamie, can hop on,
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get on to the website, sign up for an intake
with you, and just get this ball rolling
because it's totally worth it to
get to have you walk through this journey
with them.
Thank you Terri. I'm really excited that
TFM really saw the need
for this type of coaching, because I do think
it's really important.
And yeah, I'm excited for this
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new chapter.
Very good.
Well, all right, everyone, you've had a great
opportunity to get to know more about
Coach Jamie and all that she brings
to the table.
I challenge you to think about
are you struggling to do what you already
know, or do you have some things you
still need to learn to do?
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This is the place to get it done.
So Jamie, thank you so much
for being with me today.
Thanks for this great conversation and
I will certainly see you soon.
Thank you, Terri.
I look forward to continuing this journey.
All right, everyone, take good care and we'll
be back next week with another episode.