Cabbage Patch Kids, Glucose Guesses and a Farewell to Ankles: Episode 12

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This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range.
Your hosts, Frank Serio and Carlo Russo.
Welcome back.
We are here once again, and this time it's personal.

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As always, I am Frank Serio, I'm 55 years old and my wife is 29 weeks pregnant.
We're coming down to, like we could start doing 10 to go because week 39 is probably when things are going to happen.
So we're right now at 10 to go, 10 weeks.
So episode 12, episode 12, we are 10 weeks to go.

(00:59):
Yeah.
We're here.
We did it, baby.
Kelly's fine, but we did it.
This is, this is amazing.
We did it.
You know, when you, when you say that, it isn't, we are at the point now, and again, I liked, I would say, I actually said this to Kelly earlier today.
I think I understand things.
I understand the basics of what's happening with her, of what's happening with her pregnancy, but I have to say, to watch, to have this experience of watching her go through her pregnancy and seeing the transformation of her body, of what, everything she is going through, of all, of what's happening, to witness it in real time and see, see how things are working.

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It really is incredible.
It is amazing.
The miracle.
Like, I think about how, the difference, I, like, I, how much different I feel if I drop 10 pounds.
Right.
She has put on, and she's right now, she's right on track, everything, please doctors don't get mad at me, but she's like, you know, 20% of her body, of her normal weight she has put on.

(02:07):
Yeah.
Right?
In such a short period of time, and she's just, she's adapting and she's.
It's true.
It's incredible.
Yeah, when you look at it that way, like when you look at a pregnant person going, oh, they're different.
You're not thinking of, wait a minute.
They're not supposed to be this size.
No.
This is not normal to them.
Completely different.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, like you said, when we gain 10 pounds or lose 10 pounds, we feel it.

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You feel like a new person.
Exactly.
You're like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's got to be.
No, it is incredible.
Like, watch it.
Watch.
And it's got to be a mental thing too.
That's why a lot of people go through, a lot of women go through that aspect of the pregnancy.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not, you know, some people might say, oh my God, I don't look like the same way.
I don't feel.
Right.
You know, like whatever, whatever you, it's because that weight, that size, that look in the mirror is not the same person.

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Yup.
You're like, who is this person?
Why am I feeling this way?
Yeah.
No, she, it's amazing watching the, yeah, watching the changes that are happening.
But so back to our normal, our normal pattern and our normal pattern is to talk about the produce update.
I love produce.
So last week we were, it was a butternut squash, a butternut squash, butternut squash, which is would fit right there.

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This time we're saying it is that she is the size of a large cabbage and a more rounder, but a large cabbage.
So we're a large cabbage and the, the update of note is right now there is about one and a half pints of amniotic fluid that she's floating around and in there.

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And then, but right now is where that starts to reduce as she gets bigger.
So now it's less and less, it gets bigger and less.
Yeah.
So she goes, so now that reduces as she continues to get bigger, but much more what I have noticed just generally way more movement, not like now, almost like almost any time I have the opportunity, you're going to feel something.

(04:12):
I can feel some action and, and Kelly is much more vocal about, she's like, yeah, she, she wants a new apartment.
She'll be like, she's over here now.
She'll like, boy, she's like, she's a traveler, she's moving down the street, she's moving around.
That's funny.
So yeah, so that is, I mean, obviously the bigger they get, the more you're going to feel all that.

(04:34):
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, that's, but it is fun.
It's fun now.
Cause in the beginning it was like, yeah, I felt it.
No, now it's like, yeah, you really can feel you go from, maybe I felt it.
I think I did.
Yeah.
To like, oh yeah, this is happening.
Yeah.
There's the foot.
Yeah.
I felt it.
She gave me a high five.
Yeah.
That's cool.
So yeah, very cool stuff.
So that is our, our update for week 29 and we are going to move into the silver Fox mailbox.

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So this time we have some comments that have come up and so the first comment we, there were multiple comments from different listeners about, we talked about Stuller cookies, which we seem to talk about a lot, this, the ones that I like the Swiss fudge.
Apparently that was a favorite of many people who, yes, more than one, it was, it was the Swiss fudge.

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I don't know if they still make them.
I never see them in the store anymore.
I don't, I don't look for them.
Yeah.
I'm not in that area.
I always look.
Yeah.
But the, so there were a couple of comments about, it always makes me laugh too.
We were watching a lot of times I'll just have, I'll put on stand up in the background and Sebastian Maniscalco does the thing about when he, the lunch he would bring and he was tired.

(05:53):
Do you guys make sure you dump those in coffee?
The S cookies.
But yeah, so that always makes me feel.
I'm an S cookie dunker.
I like that.
They're great.
Classic.
They're great.
Classic.
They have some.
Oh, I like it.
So I just sound like Sebastian right now.
Classic.
Classic.
That's a, we had a couple of comments like that.
The other one that came up on one of our social media posts, we were asking again about lullaby suggestions.

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So we have not done two couple episodes ago.
We did the Billy Joel song, lullaby, a good night, my good night, my angel, but I don't, we haven't, we didn't have one last week and, but we, we were talking online about what people saying to their kids.
We had a few.
Okay.
So one, one listener, Christine said her husband would sing daydream believer.

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Okay.
Do you remember who did David daydream believer?
Was that the monkeys?
Daydream believer is the monkeys.
Okay.
It made me think Davy Jones was the little British guy and then the one who actually was talented was Mike Nesmith, the one who would always wear the beanie.
Mike, he was a real musician.
There were two.
He was a real, yeah, well I think the other Peter, Peter taught the other one, Peter, the bass player.

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I don't know what they played.
I know I can picture them.
So there was the one guy who sang that wasn't the British guy.
I don't know what his name was, but he, let us know the names.
Yeah.
Mike Nesmith.
Mike Nesmith I know had two things.
His mother invented whiteout.
Yes, I do remember hearing that.
Absolutely.
Is it true?

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I think it is.
And then the other thing that I think is interesting, he wrote some of the songs and he wrote a song that was made famous by Linda Ronstadt.
Ooh.
Um, now I'm, now I'm spacing on the song.
It was one of her hits, different drum, different drum.
That song was a big hit for her and he wrote it for the monkeys and they were like, nah, and then she ended up doing it.

(07:56):
But yeah, there, so there was, there was that.
So Daydream Believer, that's what her, her father used to say, her, she said her husband would sing that to their kids.
Okay.
Daydream Believer.
So cute idea.
Another listener and my sister Lucille suggest she would sing My Girl to her, to her daughter.
Yeah.
By the Temptations.
Great.
That's another great song.
Great song.

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And then another, another listener, Gina said she would sing, and I quote, on a loop, she would sing You Are My Sunshine.
So those are, those are cute ones.
We got, we've got a bunch of different, those suggestions, some others, I've got some ideas.
So please let us know, let me know what, which one you want me to do next.

(08:38):
I think what I would like to do, I want to do the one from Mary Poppins, the Don't Fall Asleep or whatever it's called.
So I might, I might do that one next.
You can kind of pick whatever, you know, any kind of song.
Sounds like most of these are not lullabies, they're just songs, like you were, like you were doing.
But yeah, I'm going to have to do some of the regular, like regular, because there are a lot of cute lullabies, but I'm going right into the deep tracks.

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I don't know, did, did you say your parents did lullabies for you?
Not that I recall.
Me either.
I don't remember.
No, no, my, my father and my mother would sing around, sing around the house all the time.
Absolutely.
But no, no, I don't remember.
Me either.
That's all I'm trying.
I'm like, I don't remember being lullabied.

(09:24):
But I guess when you're that little, when you're singing lullaby, they're so little, I don't know if they would remember.
Unless you were really bad.
And you were, right, you were the last child, so you wouldn't know, but I don't remember her doing it to my younger brother.
I can't picture anybody singing a lullaby to Mike.
You'd just be looking at him like, but no, yeah, no, I don't recall that.

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And I haven't.
I didn't either.
No.
I did.
I did find a picture.
We were going through some pictures.
Yeah.
I did find a picture of baby Natalia in the bed, our bed.
And obviously Trina must have taken it.
She had to because I'm in the picture.
But it shows the back of me with my guitar.
Oh yeah.
And so I'm playing for the baby at least.

(10:05):
Oh, that's fun.
And I wasn't singing.
I know that.
But I was at least playing something.
And that picture was, I'm like, oh my God, I don't remember that.
But that's because she took the picture and I didn't know if I ever knew that she did that.
It is.
I have to say, at some point I do want, I had that thought the other day, because again, more things are happening and I'm feeling the kicks and bumps and stuff.

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And I was thinking about, I want to, I want to start, I want to put my guitar and play and let her feel it.
And, but I, it's also like, not that I feel weird, I guess in a little way, you know, Kelly, come here, I want to do that.
So, but I think I'm going to try to do that this week.

(10:51):
If Kelly can go beyond the weirdness of that, it would, I think she'd like, I think she'd get a kick out of it.
She will.
Yeah.
Cause I, yeah, I think, yeah, there's, you know, that vibrates.
It's going to be.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So hopefully I'll, hopefully I'll get a chance to do that.
I definitely want to.
I didn't do that.
No.
I want to try it.
My closest was to, obviously when the baby was in the bed, but it was a neat, it was a neat picture of something I didn't know I was in.

(11:20):
And if I did, I must've forgot it's 23 years ago.
So when I saw it recently, when I was going through my, my pictures for my mom that recently passed away, I found all these other pictures and it's crazy.
Did you, when your, when your mom passed away and you looked at pictures, didn't it bring, I don't know if you did that.
You did that with your family.

(11:40):
Yeah.
You know what I want?
I want to say like one of the things I was, I've talked about it before I do hallow.
And one of the things I'm listening to on how this morning talked about how looking at your child, it's a thing about, it's a thing about basically how to be a good father in the context of faith.
And they're talking about how looking at your child, you're not looking at your child.

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You can't look at your child as this child is going to be what I want, what I make of them, that you have to think about it in terms of for whatever reason, God chose you to, to be the caretaker for this person.

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And that, it made me think about your mom very recently passed away and I don't, I didn't, I didn't know your mom very well, only a little bit, but I know you and it is a testament to who your mother was because God gave, entrusted her with you and the kind of, the kind of soul you are, the kind of person you are, it says a lot about your mom.

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And you know, I think, you know, I know how, I know how hard it is when you lose a parent and to answer your question, one of the most therapeutic things I did was those pictures.
I went through all the pictures, I did all that and made a slideshow and picked music, you know, picked the music to play behind it and did that stuff and cried and cried and cried.

(13:22):
Oh yeah.
It's good to cry.
But it was very helpful.
So I can picture, so you, you went, kind of went through that stuff and saw the old pictures.
I went through it and then, you know, it tells, photos tell your story and memories that you have not remembered or thought of in such a long time.
And going through this photos for my mother's memorial, it brought me from birth because

(13:48):
there's photos of me being born to immigration story of us living in Germany and then America
and then coming here and then building our lives here all by photos and reliving this
and seeing my mother, you know, through the years and us getting older and the pictures
getting, and then there's, there's weddings and then there's grandkids and then there's

(14:12):
even photos of her in her last few years of her life.
And as I'm crying and all this stuff, it's also healing because it's like, Oh, I had 88 years.
Yep.
At 88.
She had 88 years.
I'm sorry.
I had 56 years of her being my mother and sharing that.
And I felt lucky that a lot of people don't have that.

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56 years with their parents.
So when you think of that stuff, it makes it a little bit easier.
It still hurts.
It's still, you know, she raised not only, not only her own kids.
She raised my kids, my brother's kids.
And before that, before I even knew this beautiful soul, she raised her nephews and nieces when their parent died.

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Yeah.
Um, so, and it makes me want to be a better father.
Well, you're, you're a great dad and she was, she was a great mom without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
But I got my dad and, um, it's time to, um, know him a little bit better.
Yep.
That, honestly, the one thing that, you know, when they get to be that age with my folks, my mom, my mom was around a little bit longer than my dad and, but, and then my one uncle, my uncle Johnny was really the last of that generation to go.

(15:32):
He lived well into his nineties.
And the, the, the thing that the only thing I looked back at and I, I felt like I missed out on is when you get to that point, like you still got your dad, do you have any aunts or uncles that are still alive?
I have one aunt left and she's in Venezuela.
In Venezuela?
Really?

(15:53):
So even with your dad, this is the time to ask all those questions and remember all those stories because there is a weird closure that happens when that generation is gone.
There's no more.
I used to do it all the time.
I'd call my mother.
Let me ask.
Hey, what is, what was this or how did this happen?

(16:13):
The key word is let me ask.
Yeah.
Let me call mom.
I'm going to call mom.
And, and that goes away.
Take the opportunity to capture that stuff and write stuff and even write stuff down.
But that's it.
The hard, the hard part now is when for you is you get to have the, when, when things get quiet and you think, and then there are going to be those moments, I'm sure that you, I know it was with mine, with my mom, where you'll think, oh, I'm going to, I'm just going to call.

(16:42):
I want to tell mom.
I mean, it happens.
I mean, obviously just, it happened very recent from us doing this podcast, but yeah, I've already done it 10 times.
Yeah.
Like, oh my God, what's my mom?
And then the wave comes.
The thing that I, and it's about my dad, it's, um, I want to make sure he knows that, um, we weren't at the house just for my mom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's also, you know?

(17:03):
So a lot of times the dads, your dad's very similar to mine.
Yeah.
Very hard shell.
Just don't break it.
I'm going to show you exactly what you need to see from me and that's all I'm going to give you.
Yeah.
So sometimes I always think, does my dad know that we're coming here to visit both of them?
Even though, yes, we did have a closer relationship with my mother.

(17:25):
It's just, that's the way, you know, that's the way he built it and that's the way we, you know, we took it.
So I, right now I just want to make sure he also knows in his mind, he's not saying, well, now that my, their mother's gone, they're not going to come here.
Right.
And I want to make sure that that doesn't happen.
Yeah.
No, that, yeah.
That's a, that's a big thing.
I think that there, I think for dad, yeah, for, for fathers, like the fathers that we had, I think there is that like they, they, cause it doesn't matter what they showed us.

(17:57):
Right.
They see, they see the difference.
They see how we are with, with, with the mothers and they're, you know, they're just as human as we are.
They're just.
I see it with my kids and I take myself as a good father and I know the mother, the love of the mother is different because there is that bond of birth.

(18:22):
Yeah.
There is that bond of what Kelly's doing right now is growing that baby inside her and you cannot ever take that away.
And it's not as a father, I don't hate it.
I don't think, Oh my God, I'm just not, I, cause I know, cause I have that feeling with my mother.
Yeah.
And, and, and I love my father to death and, and I've seen such a change in him as he got older, obviously, where all these walls that he had up have been coming down because they have to, cause they're getting older and they need you now.

(18:55):
They need, especially if you have parents that don't speak English and they can't, you know, they can't write or read and you have to be them for, for them.
And then when they get older, there's a lot of more health questions and issues that they didn't have when they were 43.
Yeah.
You know, they didn't need you as much, but when, when they do need you, these walls come down and I've seen that.

(19:17):
My mom never had walls with us.
Right.
And that was the difference.
My dad had to put walls up and protect us and do it.
And my mom was like, I'm going to tell, I'm going to give you whatever I have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good, bad, ugly.
You're going to know it all.
It was different.
Yeah.
And when my dad is like, if you only know the ugly part, that's fine.
Cause you're going to have a house.
You're going to have money.
You're going to have, you're not going to be dirty.

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And I, that makes me a good father to him.
Right.
That's the way he did it.
So right now I just want to make sure he knows he's not a listener, but make sure he knows that we weren't visiting because we were just there for my mother.
Obviously the last two years, health wise, we were there for my mother and he knew that and he was doing the same thing to help her as well.

(20:02):
So right now I do want to take that time, like you said, and say, Hey, let's have a cup of coffee.
Yeah.
Tell me about your stories.
Tell me about, you know, your father and mother.
Yeah.
That's, that's something that it's, you know, it's different.
I think like with, with my family, with my dad and that those difficulties is for my, my brother, obviously we've talked about, he's much older and so he, you know, he went to college, he graduated college, he moved away.

(20:32):
They had a very difficult relationship.
Right.
I'm sure my dad was difficult enough when I had him and he was in his fifties.
Right.
Right.
My brother had him when he was in his thirties.
Right.
Yeah.
And these were the power in the world.
Yeah.
Like this was not, yeah, this is not somebody you messed with.

(20:53):
Right.
Right.
And so he had a very different experience and a much more combative experience, right.
As a young, as a young adult and, and, and then when he left that never, when he came home to visit, it was just back to the day he left, right.
He never had long periods of time to, to get to know my father in a different way.

(21:20):
I had much less conflict.
I had a very different father than my brother did or my, or my sister, but there was a time and it really, what, where it changed for me, I think was there was a point at some point in my life after I had moved away from home, I left home when I was 18 that I had was like between apartments.

(21:43):
Like I had a lease that was ending, I was going to move in with my friend, Ed and Dave and yeah.
And I was like a month that I needed to move home and I moved home.
My dad was already retired and I would come home and he would be up late at night watching TV.
I come home from work and I got to talk to him and I had heard all the stories and stuff, but it, it allowed me to appreciate my father as a person.

(22:11):
Like I didn't think he did it like at that time I really didn't think he did a good job.
I had not been through enough life.
I had not been through enough in my life to realize the things that he did give me.
How good.
Yeah.
Right.
What he gave you was good.
Yeah.
The, the, the things that when the chips are down, when life really puts you on your knees, it was the things that I learned from him that made me get back up.

(22:40):
But at that point I didn't appreciate that at all, but I got to appreciate him as a person.
This was an interesting guy.
He led a very interesting life.
Yes.
Well you tell me about what he did.
Crazy shit.
Shocked.
Like he did incredible stuff.
He, he, he had a good sense of humor.
I got to appreciate him as a, as a, a man and it will find out the man and it allowed me to appreciate, appreciate him in a different way.

(23:08):
Like this is a guy who I would want to know who also, who was also my, my father who didn't do a great job.
Right.
This man's interesting.
Yeah.
He's an interesting guy.
And I don't think my brother ever, he didn't get that opportunity.
It makes it hard.
It made it harder for him.
And you know, it also, it also took me back to talking about my niece was, had posted a video on Tik Tok about how listening to the podcast, when I talk about how my father never told us that he loved us, he never said the words.

(23:42):
And she was saying how it made more sense for it.
It made her understand my brother, her father better.
Absolutely.
And I thought that was, that was interesting.
But then I'm talking about it with my sister and she's like, well, mom never said she loved us either.
And I had to think about it and there's such a difference and she's right.

(24:04):
They, neither of them, but I think that was their generation.
Yeah.
I don't, yeah.
They didn't say it, but now the difference was my mother, obviously I felt very loved.
She was a very loving woman, very kind woman.
I have very, I have memories from when I'm very little of feeling very loved, but she didn't.

(24:25):
Like it was a thing that I think later on in life, I think my sister, my one sister had a conversation with her mother, like, why don't you ever say it?
And then she started to, but you know, I just think that was one of those things that, that they didn't, at least with my family, they didn't, they just didn't say it.

(24:45):
I don't, maybe it goes back to that bond we have with our mothers.
Yeah.
Cause there's, when she said that, I was like, no.
And I thought there's no way she was saying it to me and not them.
Like, but they showed it, our fathers showed it different.
And that's the difference is that a kid, I think a kid understands what the, when the mother is showing, yes, is demonstrating love.

(25:13):
They understand that.
It's like they're yelling, I love you without saying it.
And when I, when a father is doing it in many ways, there's fear behind it too.
There's a lot more fear where I didn't, I mean, I always also feel my mother obviously, but you knew how much you can going to get out of my mother compared to my dad.
I feared him.
Yeah.
I didn't want him to be mad.

(25:34):
I didn't want him to be disappointed in me.
And I also, I also didn't want to depend on him because he would tell me, don't call me if you're getting in trouble or if you get arrested or if you're, I'm the last one you want to call.
So, so a young person could take that as, can you just tell me you love me?
Even though they are telling you that, that moment, like, yeah, just don't screw up.

(25:57):
I'm here for you.
You know, it's, it's, it's weird, but my mother did say, I love you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the older she got, the more it came out.
More and more.
Yeah.
Cause yeah, my mom, leader in life.
Absolutely.
All the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think it was, it was different.
And when we were talking about it, there was even, there's an episode of everybody loves Raymond where I remember they're, they're asking the parents, like he's asking his parents why they didn't.

(26:19):
And they're like, right.
The father's like, what do you live in a fairyland?
Right.
Right.
It was completely.
That would be what I would think my dad would say if I asked him, I have this running joke with everybody loves Raymond.
If my parents spoke English, that is my family.
Yeah.
Across, live across the street from each other.
Yeah.
And my mother, you know how she was, she, she always like, she thought that wife couldn't cook or clean or raise the kids.

(26:42):
Right.
Not that my, you know, not that my mom thought that of my wife, she loved, but she was always there to help.
You can see that face.
Yes.
That, that face.
Yeah.
She was always, let me, let me bring the lasagna.
Let me, let me, yeah.
That's fantastic.
Here's a vacuum for Christmas.
Do you know how to use it?
That's awesome.
So my mother.
Yeah.
So it's been rough.

(27:02):
It's been rough, but you realize that so many things that she did for you when you were growing up and like you said, times that you thought, Oh my God, especially the teenage years, I hate these people.
They're trying to ruin my life.
Oh yeah.
And now it's like, Oh my God, thank you for everything you put me through.
And because I, you know, that's how we want to raise our kids.

(27:27):
And the nicest thing you could hear when you go through wakes and funerals and stuff and families around is when somebody says, um, your mother raised you right.
You guys are, you guys are, you guys did good and she did good and you realize, yeah, okay.
Yeah.
She did her job.
Now I have to do that to my kids and I hope, and you'll do it to your daughter and, and uh, yeah.

(27:49):
Cause we have friends that like their mothers destroyed them.
I mean, listen, there's some mothers out there that they'll, a lot of people will take their fathers, you know, because some mothers are equal, right?
Not all mothers are equal as we know in the horrible stories that you hear through friends like, Oh, my mother didn't even, you know, whatever.

(28:10):
And then you sit back and go, I am so good with my family.
I am so thankful that I had the people in my world because it could be so much worse.
Oh yeah.
Oh my God.
That's it.
I said that when you, you think that your family is the only one that's messed up and then you get older and you realize, you realize, yeah, you realize everybody's is messed up.

(28:34):
And then later on you realize you had the good messed up compared to everybody else.
There's, there's a messed up.
The flavor of messed up is everywhere.
Everybody has a kind of a hint and some are a lot more, they cooked with a lot more crazy.
And so I'm just enough, just enough to see it, but go, you know, I can live through that.
It's a bit crazy.
It's all right.

(28:54):
But I'd like to dedicate this episode to my mother.
I love you.
And yeah, she, she always encouraged me.
She was scared of me traveling, of course.
And I said, mom, you know, being a, being a, you know, in my business, I have to travel.
And she goes, okay, but you have to call me twice as much.

(29:15):
So you have to call me when you leave, you have to call me in between and you have to call me when you get there.
And then when you get back, the whole, you know, rinse and repeat.
That's what kept her kind of going like, okay, you got to do what you do.
And, and I think she knew that this was what I do for a living was what I was meant to do.
And she, and she, you know, she just wanted you to call more, she just wanted you to call more.

(29:39):
And I always say that joke, my mother, my mother had this love for hotels.
Really?
She likes staying in hotels.
Oh, she just loved the lobby.
And then you get a room and you go in and, and I remember as a kid, not that we went on hotels.
We didn't, we, I mean, come on, what hotel?
She just, I don't know if it was for movies.

(30:00):
And then a couple of times you do it at weddings or something, you know what I mean?
But she had, and then we'd go away as we got older and, and we would go on vacation, uh, to the shore.
She liked it.
Oh, and it got me loving hotels and I, and, and until this day, I, you know how, how many hotels I live in.
Yeah.
Um, and I just think of her all the time when I walk into a hotel going, oh, my mom would love this one.

(30:25):
So I'll be, uh, I'll be, I'll be thinking of her when I go to my, uh, my hotels.
That's right.
And she was setting you up for a life on the road.
She loved it.
She loved it so much.
And, uh, we, every year we'd go to the shore and, and, uh, she'd get there.
And within three minutes of us walking in that door first, she'd washed the whole hotel room by herself because she didn't trust anyone.

(30:47):
She'd have the vacuum out, but she had all the clothes put away the kitchen in the kitchenette of this hotels would be set with food.
It within, I swear to God, within the timeframe that we were able to go in the hotel, put the luggage in, go outside and set up like the, the pool area thing, we'd come back in, everything was put away.

(31:14):
The food was in the refrigerator, it was, the coffee was being made and it's like, she had this beautiful, I don't know, this thing about like, she felt like she was, you know, like on vacation, you know, she, she, you know, from her watching the kids or, or being a mom, she was just, she was at her, her happy place.
She had everybody.
She had everybody there in one room and we would all stay in one, just one room.

(31:37):
We would get like a suite and we'd wake up and, and, and she'd have the car.
So every time I'm in these rooms, I think of her when she was alive, I would call and go, Oh, you'd love this hotel, mom.
Oh my God.
They had this, that, and the other.
And she was like, Oh yeah.
And I would take pictures and show her.
So yeah, so I'll be, uh, she'll be traveling with me to these new hotels that we used to She'll be visiting.

(31:59):
Love you mom.
So next up we are going to have the final installment.
The trilogy ends our next episode of the database and it is part three of the John Taylor interview.

(32:25):
So enjoy the last segment of John Taylor.
Yeah.
The idea of wondering what the personality will be like.
Yeah.
Cause it's, it's before the anxious times of junior high and when, you know, peer pressure hits and just awkwardness and the anxiety of childhood, which can also be there.

(32:51):
There's this, this perfect window with everything's awesome.
Right.
So that's where you are right now.
You're in the awesome window.
That's good.
That's very cool.
It's going to make you, Oh, already for me, like just thinking about and talking about all this stuff and talking with Carlo, yeah, you start to come back to all this stuff from your childhood that you haven't thought about in a really long time.

(33:14):
So I imagine with seeing Jacob at that stage, you must be doing that.
So that's when it forces you because they are going like a lot of times kids have tantrums and frustrations and you, you kind of step back and you're like, okay, this is at this time by their perception, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to them.

(33:34):
You know, you try to see it from their perspective and, and if you're able to, you can sometimes see them going through something and you're like, I kind of remember that, right?
I remember what it was like to feel like nobody was listening to you or, you know, you had something to say, but you didn't necessarily know how to communicate it.

(33:56):
And so everyone's just yelling at you and not understanding.
All right.
So that makes sense too.
It's, it's an interesting thing trying to figure out.
That's the, one of the things that I, I think I rely upon very heavily in all of my relationships with adults is the ability to, to find the right words, to find the right, to, to understand and ask for clarification.

(34:25):
And even for adults, sometimes that can be challenging, but with a kid that just doesn't have that, the longer you try, if I try to, if my sentence goes on too long with my son, it's over.
I have to see as he's not listening anymore.
He is, he has moved on to something else or he's mad because in his head, like I think he doesn't necessarily understand that length of communication yet.

(34:57):
And because of that, it's frustrating.
And then he metabolizes it as like kind of a negative thing.
You almost have to find a way to get your point across quicker with the child.
Yeah.
Get it in there quick.
Well, I think about that too, like with, with Kelly, a lot of times in the beginning, you know, as in any relationship, when you have conflict or you're trying to understand something better and I would, I would, I would over and over again, I'd be like, just say what's in your head.

(35:27):
Just don't, because I could, cause she would be quiet when we would, and like she was, if it were me, it would be me trying to find the right thing to say.
And like, I would have just, just tell me, like, just tell me what are the words in your head right now?
Because for me, and I don't know, I always thought everybody was like this and I don't know if you are or not, but I learned this through my, through my lovely wife that in my head, I think in words, it like there is a conversation happening in my head all the time.

(36:00):
It is not pictures.
It is, it is sounds and words.
That's how I think or numbers, right?
Like that's what's going on in my head.
And that is completely not the case for her.
She does not think so.
I'm auditorily focused, I think in language and I, and she thinks more visually, I guess.

(36:24):
Um, yeah, my, my head is a cinematic movie all the time.
So it's so see, so for, so when she was struggling for how to express something for me, it's just like, I just have to decide to let out whatever's going on in my head.
I'm not, I'm not watching a movie or doing it.
So I wonder like interacting with a child, that would be a whole different layer of trying to figure out, like, do you have a sense for, for Jacob and how he thinks?

(36:53):
Yeah.
I mean, it's like everything else.
It's going to be a lot of trial and error.
You're going to learn when I say this, my child reacts very poorly.
Um, but you sometimes are lucky enough to learn when I say this, my child reacts favorably.

(37:17):
Um, and the sad wrinkle there is it changes, which is a lesson that Carlo taught me very early on.
Um, year, honestly, it was years before I had my son, Carlo was kind of a sounding board because we did get to work together for a couple of years and, uh, he, he basically was like, it's all temporary.

(37:46):
So whatever frustration you're going through, whatever, just impossible mountain you're trying to climb with this child, it is going, whatever it is, it will pass.
He literally said just the other day, he said basically just that, like, whatever it is you think is never going to end is going to be over before you know it.

(38:07):
And there'll be the new thing that you think will never end.
Yes.
Um, I, from a, from a sillier perspective, I, my, my son had so little interest in potty training.
I thought I was going to be changing his diaper at his senior prom.
Um, and I, and, and anyone, anyone who tried to tell me differently, I'm like, they're like, oh, he'll, he'll do it when he's ready.

(38:35):
I'm like, he'll never be right.
Like they're like, oh, eventually, eventually he'll get sick of being in a dirty diaper.
I'm like, my son has never met a dirty diaper.
He hasn't been completely content in.
I resisted every bit of wisdom people tried to give me because I'm like, he, he is perfectly content and then it happened and I just, I just never, I, it, cause it went on just long enough where I'm like, it's not, it's never going to happen.

(39:14):
And it did.
So, um, so you will have moments of doubt where you're like, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't think this is going to pass or, or, or we're not going to get through this.
And then you do, but then it's, you know, it's the new thing.
So the next thing, Carlo, definitely that was wisdom that has echoed back to me that I'm like, he was right.

(39:39):
Cause I didn't, I didn't believe him.
Right.
Yeah.
In the middle, like, I think it's interesting that in the middle of whatever it is in your life, especially if it's something that's super challenging and you just think, cause you don't have no horizon, you don't have control.
You know, we're so as adults, we're used to, you know, we're, we are, especially in this case, further removed from childhood, very removed from childhood.

(40:06):
And so I'm almost removed from adulthood during old age.
Right.
So it's really hard to see it from a kid's perspective again.
And in that way, I think I, you know, I, I talked, joked about this on one of the other episodes that, you know, that Kelly was talking about how she doesn't feel like she has a lot of experience being around children.

(40:30):
And I'm like, you live with me.
I'm like, I never want you, I never want you make for dinner.
You have to watch what I want to watch on TV and a lot of it's cartoons.
Like I just went down the list.
I'm like, I am.
So in some ways I think, cause I am, I, I do, I feel, I don't know how you feel.
Like, I feel like I kind of have the same things going on in my head that I did when I was 12.

(40:56):
Yeah.
Like, I don't feel like I got a lot further than that.
It's a very, I mean, it doesn't take a lot for me to revert to very childish behavior.
We got to grow up.
I mean, honestly, what is, you know, star Wars came out in the slate seventies and really ever since the slate seventies to the eighties, you kind of don't have to let go of your hobbies anymore.

(41:23):
That's true.
And I mean, I could not be more different than my grandfathers just could not be more different in, in, at least in, in those aspects.
I, if, if they had hobbies, they, I couldn't tell you what they were, their hobbies were work.
Yeah.
That's true.
And so you are, you are allowed, we are as adults, we are a little bit more in touch with what, what it's like to be a kid.

(41:50):
But at the same time, every expression I use, it doesn't matter what it is, but every time I always say something.
And what's kind of funny is my, my kid will just be like, he goes, huh?
Because I'll just say something and I'll be like, Oh, it's an expression.
And he goes from the, from the eighties.

(42:14):
See, I already have that.
I have that experience with Kelly all the time because she's 10 or 15 years younger.
And yeah, I'll say something.
She's like, what?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
You don't know.
But interesting.
So the unique thing I'm hoping as I continue to do these interviews and talk with different dads with different perspectives that, you know, I'll probably, hopefully eventually start to interview people I don't know as well as I know you.

(42:40):
But the unique advantage of having a conversation with someone like you is, you know, me better than a lot of people.
So what is your word of knowing me and what I'm facing, having been through it in the last decade?
What is your, what is the thing that you think is the, is the, the, the one piece of wisdom that I need most sure as, as knowing me as well as you do?

(43:09):
Well, I will say I'll give two, the one list I'll start with a subsection a let's start.
I think the two knowing you and I mean, you are so rigid in, you know, who you are, have, have patience and, and be adaptable to that.

(43:36):
What I would call, I guess what I would say is like the way they did in, or used to do at least I think on live TV where they always, they build in like a, what is it like a one or two or three second pause the three second delay before there's like some kind of reaction.

(43:58):
I think I would love to tell you, try to build that in because you, you are so consistent in who you are.
I would say just like pause your consistency for like just three seconds before you react.

(44:18):
Okay.
Um, I think that that's, that's an astute cause that's true.
There isn't all the, there aren't very many times that I don't immediately have a reaction to whatever's happening.
Just know and anyone who knows you knows that you are, you're just, you, you are very consistent.
Build in the three second pause.

(44:39):
So build in the three second pause.
That's a good one because it, in hindsight, you won't know it in the moment, but in hindsight you'd be like, I wish I could have, I wish I could have just not quite reacted as quickly because there are going to be very frustrating moments.
So I would say that.
And the second thing is to the best of your ability, be in the best shape you can prior to the child coming along.

(45:11):
I guess I didn't know this at the time, but I, I had gotten myself into the best shape of my life.
Right.
I was in quite bad shape in much of my twenties, but then, you know, as many people do leading up to the marriage, which for me was in my kind of my early to mid thirties, I, you know, you start getting in better shape, you want to for the wedding.

(45:37):
And I kind of kept that up for a good couple of years.
And so, you know, leading up to the wedding, I was in good shape.
And then the couple of years past the wedding, I was in the best shape of my life.
I felt better.
I felt better approaching 40 than I did approaching 30.

(45:58):
And I had no idea how important that would have been until I had it, excuse me, until I had a kid.
And you know, that can quickly go way downhill as it did.
And I would imagine just the physical demands of, you know, it's just, it's everything is you have, you learn to find the pockets of time, right?

(46:25):
So the beautiful part about having a kid is how much it forces everything to slow down.
You say yes to far, far, far less social engagements.
I already say no to everything.
So I don't know how that's possible.
And it's kind of a built in excuse.
You just, you have way more quiet evenings because you need it.

(46:49):
And in a way it's nice.
Right.
There's something there in the quiet.
You don't realize how busy your life is until something like this is going to come along and slow you down.
Right.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
The whole thing.
One of the things we do on the, on the podcast is we're calling it the diaper diet.
So I'm trying to lose as much as Kelly is gaining.

(47:15):
And I thought I was hoping in the last couple of weeks I was going to catch up, like I'm close.
But she, I think now with her appetite is going to start moving up in a way that I'm not going to be able to keep up with it in the other direction.
Diminishing return there, but.
That's okay.
It's okay.
It's worth a, it's worth a try.
But yeah, no, I think that's one of the things from an age perspective, that is the first thing I thought about was the physical demands of just being down on the ground and playing with a kid and doing all those things.

(47:45):
Because you want to, you want to be able to, because it, it, you, I mean, you don't know it until it's happening, but it's going to be so important to you to be participating in what you can.
Whatever's happening.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So yeah, I would say try to, you know, keep on the treadmill, three second pause and get in shape fast.

(48:09):
Cause it's going to go downhill immediately afterwards.
Good advice.
Good advice.
Well, this was fun.
I appreciate you taking the time to do it and being our very first database entry.
So John Taylor, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for having me.
There is.
We're back.

(48:30):
Our John Taylor.
John Taylor.
Thanks.
Big thanks for being kind of the guinea pig.
He's a three time, a three time visitor.
That's right.
A member.
I don't even know what to say.
That's it.
We've got lots of, lots of good feedback on part one and part two.
Hopefully you equally enjoy part three with John.

(48:53):
Thanks very much.
He makes me laugh.
He makes me laugh.
Even if he just last week we were talking about, somebody said he had that great voice.
You could just listen, just listen.
So thank you John for doing this.
Thanks very much.
I'm not sure if we're going to have one guest for seven episodes in the future.
Yeah.
I've got to get back.

(49:13):
It was the first time.
We're going to figure it out.
Maybe keep them to more like a 30 minute time.
Yeah.
We'll see what we can do.
It's going to evolve.
But we love John.
We love John and thank you.
And I hope you guys enjoyed that.
Yes.
So that will bring us to what just happened and this week, not, not a big up.

(49:36):
There's two kind of big updates.
Okay.
I, as I often do, I will ask, I will ask Kelly, well, what, you know, what are the big things?
She's like, well, this week I said goodbye to my ankles.
No, that's hilarious.
I look at her.
I saw her.
I look at her ankles and they look like ankles to me, but she's like, no, they're gone.

(50:00):
I'll see them again, but she's funny.
She is.
I think she has gotten, she has a good sense of humor, but I think she has gotten funnier.
Her timing is great.
Her timing is getting better.
It's like, I think she's learning how to hit.
Well, you have a good sense of humor, so I'm hoping it's rubbing off a little bit.
You have to.

(50:21):
Yeah.
She's, no, but she is, she's, so far, she's like, I said goodbye to my ankles.
That's hilarious.
But yeah, so there's, there's that.
But I think she looks adorable.
But we were talking about in other episodes that these people, these women, these ladies, things are happening to their body and they're not used to it.

(50:41):
So for what, when they see themselves, they're not seeing what we see.
Well, and she's, and she's also, she's one of these people that she's always been like, it's not like, Oh, I could go anywhere from 185 to 290, right?
Like she's, she's been in a narrow plus or minus five pounds her whole life.

(51:01):
And when we see pictures of a kid, this is what I think is funny is you see pictures of my lovely wife as a child.
I don't, from, I would, based on the pictures, and I know this isn't true, but based on the pictures, I don't think from like age three till like 11 was not fed.
Like she is so really, she's so skinny.

(51:25):
It's like they were talking to her and, and her sister, both just like, and they look alike.
They have that body.
They have the same kind of, yeah, they do resemble.
That makes sense of what you've always said is she doesn't have the same relationship to food.
Like we do.
Yes.
No.
So that, I mean, it's probably never been a big thing.
Like every time, every time we say something about our story, any story, there's food around.

(51:49):
We're always like making, all right.
So, and it's so funny because my, my cousins married their husbands and they did not grow up this way.
And the funny joke is out of one of my cousins, husbands is every memory is around food.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So you forget that some people don't live that way.

(52:11):
Yeah.
No, not at all.
So those pictures from three to 11 are skinny and that's, it'll be great.
Like I'll be thrilled if, if she's a fit little girl.
But I will also be like, have another cookie.
If she's looks like if she's that skinny all the time, like daddy's going to have some Stella Dora.
That's right here.

(52:31):
Let me introduce you.
That is, that is funny.
I never thought, and again, I, I didn't have a daughter.
I have two sons.
I never really worried about like their weight, are they going to be heavy children or when I was, I never had a weight problem.
I never, when I was growing up now, let's talk about that later.
But when growing up, that was not one of my problems, you know?

(52:53):
So when I was having my, my sons, I've never really, but I know people that knew they were having daughters that have thoughts of, ah, let's, you know, you want to have a, you want to not know.
Hopefully they're not because kids are tough, man.
Oh yeah.
Well, I would know.
I was like, I was the fat kid.

(53:14):
Right.
So you don't want that in your own kids.
So in your mind, you're like, please, you know, I'm not going to stop you.
I'm going to feed, but I don't want my child to go through what I went through or, you know, ultimately you want them to be healthy.
Yeah.
I would look for her to not have, if I had to pick for her to have Kelly's relationship with food or mine.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Cause you know, in schools, kids are tough and rough kids can be, and even if we're, I think girls are way meat.

(53:41):
Like it might be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're, they're way worse.
We're going to get somebody.
You were wrong.
Yeah.
There was no, but that's as a parent, I, these thoughts come in your mind going, I want my child to have a happy childhood and not be bullied and not be in as much as people say, we don't bully into school yet.

(54:03):
Kids bully.
Right.
It's children and children.
And so that's it.
That's that's I, but I never, I never thought of that.
And I don't know why.
I don't know because it's, they were boys.
I'm not trying to be like sexist or not.
And they like, don't just punch them in the face if they made fun of.
I don't know.
I don't know why I thought that way, but I'd never daughter to, uh, you didn't have to think about that.

(54:25):
So you do think about it differently.
Yeah.
But so, so there's, there's the say goodbye to her ankles.
There was that the other thing, and this kind of is, well, we didn't do an official, we're going to make it an official segment because it's coming up as part of what just happened.
But here is the, I was wrong.

(54:47):
If you recall, uh, last, just last week I was saying how I think all of the, the gestational diabetes stuff is nonsense.
You did say that.
I did.
Oh, come on.
So Kelly had her followup appointment.
Right.
And apparently the first thing now I did not go, I did not go to this appointment.

(55:09):
Now I wish I did.
Sure.
Because this was just supposed to be a quick check in blood, you know, to do the, you know, check her weight and all that stuff, normal stuff.
But it was also the first visit since she started with taking the blood sugar measurements, the finger breaks.
Yes.
So she goes in, I think, and I wish I was there because I felt like I maybe would have, she wouldn't have taken it as hard as she did.

(55:35):
But the first thing was she did now, Kelly is a rule follower.
So apparently there was a form that was mailed to us that she was supposed to be logging these blood sugar measurements onto so that then the doctor can very easily have it scanned into the computer.

(55:56):
So apparently the doctor was upset that she didn't do that, which in my mind, that's what I would have been like, Hey, we pay you.
So shut up.
I'm glad you want to take your time.
I'll write it in.
We'll wait.
But no.
So, so that I think maybe, so maybe things started off on the wrong note, but all along Kelly has been thinking the numbers that she's seeing are in a good range right now.

(56:23):
It's higher after she's eaten the resting, the fasting, the, the doctor today is like, Nope, these are all too high.
They're too.
So apparently they're looking at their, the numbers they're looking for are even lower than what Kelly was expecting.
Gotcha.
Right.
So if it's a hundred, they're looking for 50.
Right.
I mean, these are just made up.
What they're looking at is also the differential between fasting and two hours after.

(56:47):
So they want the numbers to be closer together and lower.
So, so they, you know, kind of, they talked about that and they talked a little bit about what she should be trying to do to, to help the numbers.
But again, as I said last week, Kelly was thinking the numbers were okay, so she was being a little bit looser.

(57:11):
She was eating a little bit more.
So I feel bad.
I felt bad because she, Kelly desperately wants to do everything she can just the right way.
And she got a little upset when she was telling me about the visit because she feels like, like, first of all, she's not used to failing, right?
She's a, she's a brilliant woman.

(57:32):
She's, she's naturally great at stuff and she's usually whatever she wants to do, she can do it.
So it's challenging.
Like we've had these conversations about her work where her, her boss will just pile stuff onto her and she will do more and more and more and always has been able to.
So when she reaches her breaking point, it's difficult for her to metabolize that because she's not used to ever, she's used to being able, she's one of those people who probably didn't, probably didn't have to study as hard to be as successful as she was because she's so bright.

(58:10):
Gotcha.
And so, so it's, she, she has a hard time with not getting the results that she wanted before.
Before I forget my, did they give her the numbers that she should be looking for before they sent her home to give her these false ideas of what numbers we're trying to look for?
Because all they have to say is we need to be at 39 to 50, whatever it is.

(58:33):
And then I think this would have been all, I think if they had, I think if they had, of course, I mean, but no, I, I, I can almost, I don't know for sure, but I can almost guarantee no, they didn't because she would be looking for that.
I mean, I would think in a, in a conversation, the doctor would say, we want numbers at this range.
Right.

(58:54):
In the morning.
Maybe they don't do that to not scare them.
In the morning you want to be around here in the afternoon.
Right.
You would think, no.
So I don't know.
I don't know where.
The communication there.
Where that, how that broke down, but, but she was, I felt bad because she felt, she was a little upset.
She feels guilty now.
Yeah.
And I'm like, look.
Which you shouldn't.
Number one, you're doing, you're doing everything you can look, you know, we'll, we'll talk, we'll figure it out how to, you know, there's, there's different things that she can do.

(59:23):
She needs to eat more often, right?
She's going to have to have something to nibble on while she's at work in between, you know, breakfast and lunch.
And I'm sure it's going to be fine, but it's hard.
I feel bad.
I felt really bad because she, she tries, she tries so hard to do everything at a very, very high level.

(59:46):
Yeah.
And this, of course, more than anything else, she wants it all to go the right way and she wants to feel like she's doing everything she should be.
Yeah.
And she is.
So I'm, I'm convinced it's going to be manageable.
I don't think they're saying now that like if the numbers don't get, she's got to go back now in a week.
If the numbers don't get better, then she's going to have to do insulin.

(01:00:07):
So that, but that was my next question.
Yeah.
What is the end game?
If insulin is, that's it.
So she'll have to go on insulin, which that wouldn't be the worst thing.
But honestly, I think now that she knows she's going to make a couple of tweaks, we're going to figure out how to have her set up to snack successfully at work and the numbers will be okay.

(01:00:27):
I refuse to believe still, but again, this is an issue, Kelly, this is going to be something that you're going to go through and, and it's temporary and no, we all want to do, there's so much fear, especially when, like you said, you know, this podcast, I'm Frank, I'm 55 and I'm having my friend, it's scary and age has stuff to do with it, big stuff to do with it.

(01:00:47):
Yeah.
And we want to make sure, you know, and I know Kelly, she wants to make sure she's doing everything she can, but don't, don't hate yourself.
Don't kill yourself over this.
Don't, you know, don't beat yourself up.
I said we were, when we were talking, I'm like, the biggest thing is right now, I think more important than any of this stuff is how she's feeling.

(01:01:08):
Yeah.
If she's feeling anxious and all that stuff, that translates to the baby, right?
Be happy.
We have this miracle that's happening.
Things have gone very, very well.
We've been very lucky and it'll be, it'll be okay.
And I think she'll, you know, so I'm going to try, try hard to, you know, come up with some ways to, to help with that stuff.

(01:01:31):
But yeah, so that was a little, a little bit disappointing, but again, very manageable.
Even, even in the worst possible case, it's a very manageable thing.
But I bet you anything I'm, I'm optimistic.
She's going to make a couple.
Do that mind thing you were talking about.
Think of, gotta believe, gotta believe.

(01:01:51):
It's a tough time.
Yeah.
And then the baby comes and it gets tougher.
That's right.
That's right.
That's it.
That's the other thing too that I think is the way this year has gone, Thanksgiving being late and then all of a sudden, bam, it's Christmas, bam, it's New Year's.
And then we've got, we've got a little, we're going to take a little bit of a vacation and we're going to do that in the next couple of weeks.

(01:02:16):
And then, and then it's, you know, it's coming.
And I think she's, she's wants to feel like everything.
So that's the other thing that we're going to do is spend some time.
I know in my, I have my vision of what should be done and when and what we should have.
And I need to understand what hers is to start checking things off that list so that she feels good and she feels good.

(01:02:42):
Because if I'm thinking, Oh, we don't need X, Y, or Z until March and she thinks we should already have it.
We need it now that I'm, I'm letting her down.
Communication obviously in pregnancies because both partners are, they're my, I mean, we're everywhere, right?
You're thinking of so many things.
I'm so, and that's one of the things that I recognize clearly, like I, we don't, we don't think the same way.

(01:03:07):
I'm much more, as much as I'm, I've fairly organized and I plan and all that.
She's even more so like she needs that.
She needs to feel like that stuff's all buttoned up.
So I need to understand.
We have our daddy brain.
We can go back to what we talked about.
It's not me.
It's my daddy brain.
That's right.
It is the dad brain.
Dad brain.
That's right.
So yeah.
So it's going to come real quick.

(01:03:28):
Yeah.
You just going, it made, it's making it quicker too, because we're doing this podcast.
So we're always like, you know what I mean?
Like week one, week two, week three, week four.
So that kind of sped it up even though time doesn't speed up at the same time, but it seemed a lot quicker.
Like, Oh my.
Once the new year hits, it's now the new year that we're in March is going to be right.

(01:03:50):
I mean, it's, yeah, it's coming fast.
It is.
It is.
But that's okay.
That's all.
That was the whole goal.
We've been wanting that to happen for a long time.
Then the next chapter of this life that we're in begins.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
So, so that, that is basically, that was kind of a mashup of, of what just happened and I was wrong.

(01:04:11):
But that is, that is where we are.
You get a double.
A double dose.
I'll have to make a new graphic for that.
What just went wrong?
So anyhow, once again, I appreciate you guys sticking with us and it's been fun, but we're going to figure out with our, with our travel that's coming up, we're going to have to figure out maybe we'll get to do one of these where you and I aren't together.

(01:04:40):
That might happen.
Will it be a split screen?
Who knows?
We'll figure it out.
The excitement continues.
You know that we will not, no matter what happens, we won't deny you the joy of these updates.
Of an episode.
Of an episode.
I would, I would be remiss if I allowed that to happen.
Do we, do we still have a, we have, we have, yeah, we, we, in between these episodes we were talking because we're, we're doing this for the first time.

(01:05:05):
We have no idea where this is going to go, the format.
We also have like bonus shows that we can throw in there once in a while.
I don't know if we, which are not episodes, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
We've got a short of that where we talk about faith that I, I, I've got together and we, we might put that out soon.

(01:05:26):
And other things, what we might want to get into that are not actually episodes, it might be things that, you know, about ourselves or just a, just a conversation that, that might get us started in an episode that we can really expand on.
Yeah.
We veer off on tangents.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes.
Yeah, that would be, it would be.
So that's a fun part.
I thought it was a lot.

(01:05:46):
I think about, there are a lot of things I see like news stories and things that make me think, that I think about, I think a little differently now from a, the context of being a parent.
Sure.
But that, that are more like some stuff that's more political or things like that, that would be fun to talk about.
Yeah, yeah.
So, so that's, that's something that Frank and I have talked about, like, well, you know, we, we, we do have other interests, but they all kind of go in this parenting.

(01:06:14):
They do.
I know there will be, I was thinking about one of the things, thinking about catching up and making sure we're ready that the, we could be, we could have a whole DIY series on what I'm going to do with that.
I've got some, I did come up with some great ideas of how to do the nursery and how to do the stuff, what we're going to do on the walls.
That could be a fun YouTube series.

(01:06:36):
Yes.
Frank falling through the ceiling.
That could be, that could be a fun.
Frank electrocuting himself.
Frank has to move from the house.
Is that breaker on?
Yeah.
Frank's looking for, Frank and Kelly are looking for a new home.
It causes a fire.
But that could be like, so in our minds, 2025, we want to really build this bigger than what we're doing and, and, and branch, a couple of branches coming off of this podcast.

(01:07:01):
We could have spinoffs.
So, uh, we want to thank you guys obviously for sticking with us.
And I know Frank, you're, you're, you put a lot of time into this and I'm, I'm glad we started it and I can't wait to see what this becomes because right now I'm still like from the first time we thought about it, I was in the car and you called me up and I was like, what are we going to do?

(01:07:25):
And I thought it was such a great idea.
And then to see where we've come and where it's going to go from here.
It's, I'm so excited.
It is.
It has been a lot of fun and, and yeah, now kind of getting organized and figuring out, you know, kind of having a little bit more clear workflow it's, it's allowed.
I want to be able to focus more on that.
So like, what are the different fun things we want to do?

(01:07:47):
Because for a while there, it was just, how do I get this done by Tuesday?
So we're, we're getting there.
And also the podcast is going to change because we're going to have the baby here.
So that's obviously going to change a lot of our discussions and that's going to be interesting.
I can't wait to have that.
Yeah.
That those episodes of, of when the baby's, yes, this is what's happening.

(01:08:11):
I won't have to ask Kelly.
Hey, what should I, what should we talk about?
No, no, no.
Exactly.
So that's going to change the podcast.
There'll be the sound of crying in the background.
It's going to be awesome.
We'll be holding the baby.
Please.
So I can't wait.
It's going to be fun to see where this goes.
It will be fun.
All right.
Thanks again.
And we will see you next time.

(01:08:38):
Well, folks, that's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books.
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