Disney Cruises, Travel Troubles, Baby Races & Kathy Lee : Episode 14

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I don't even know if I could articulate this but to me it's so crazy because you are so close to your baby you're like it's right there you know I mean when you're sitting next to your wife.

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Well no it's not in here.
It could be.
I'm not the one.
Trump outlawed that.
They're right here.
Okay well we'll get into that.

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This is the Gray Hair and Day Care Podcast.
With a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range.
Your hosts Frank Sirio and Carlo Russo.
Welcome back.
Here we are.
We're just before we got started talking about any number of things that have nothing to do with the podcast and we're probably going to change it to something completely new sadly but no we are we are back.

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This is the Gray Hair and Day Care Podcast.
Episode 14.
14.
It just keeps clicking by and by and by.
It's amazing.
As always I am Frank Sirio.
I am 55 years old and my wife is 31.
31 weeks pregnant.
Wow.

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The countdown is really on.
It's odd.
There's less there's just well now the countdown is either to week 37 or to week 39.
So we're either six or eight weeks away.
Wow.
Right.
Because they're going to.
There's that window.
There is.
Well the 37 I think we're going to go to 39 because they're because the her all the not to give away anything that we'll talk about later but all of the numbers have been pretty good with the gestational diabetes because if those weren't then they would be like week 37 they want to induce.

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Let's get that baby out of there.
Exactly.
Right.
So that's it.
But here we are.
Now this week we have had very I think very relevant produce references.
Yes.
Up until now.
Really.
This week my my little girl is the size of a jacama.
Do you have a what.
Do you have any idea what a jacama is.

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Anybody.
Christine do you know.
I'm not really good with English.
Commas question marks.
Jacama.
And then the other reference was a coconut.
But a coconut was a couple of weeks ago.
Coconut.
Because that was getting bigger and smaller.
Because a cook.
Well remember we were talking about different size coconuts right.

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The one right.
There's the trimmed one and the one off the tree.
So maybe that's where we're going here.
But what's a jacama.
I don't know.
Oh you didn't find out.
I didn't even look it up.
I'm like maybe Carlo will know.
A jacama.
Like I really don't.
Like all I know is she's bigger.
She's bigger.
But so she's the size of a large jacama.
I'm probably not even pronouncing it right even.

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Or a coconut.
You love those two.
She is gaining one third to one half of her birth weight in the next seven weeks.
Go get it Josie.
That's it.
Her brain is developing rapidly.
Nice.
She can open her eyes and focus now.
And she'll be able to read the paper.

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And she can hear things outside the womb.
So the sound thing is a real thing for her now.
So that's where we are.
Week 31.
Jacama.
Jacama.
If you know what that is.
You know that's going to be in your wrong segment.
No idiots.
It's not a jacama.
It's a whatever.
It's a beautiful fruit.
We'll see.

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But yeah.
So gaining a lot of weight at this point.
Getting bigger.
Brain developing rapidly.
Opening eyes.
And can focus.
It's amazing.
It's an amazing thing to see.
And some of the interactions that we'll talk about later now that are happening are really cool.
Isn't it?
I don't even know if I can articulate this.

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But to me it's so crazy because you are so close to your baby.
It's right there.
You know what I mean?
When you're sitting next to your wife.
Well no it's not in here.
It could be.
You're not pregnant.
I'm not the one.
No.
Trump outlawed that.
They're right here.
Okay.
Well we'll get into that.
We'll get into that later.
But it's so close.

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It's still in the room with you.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
But it's not.
Yes.
It's like.
Does that make.
Yes.
Right.
It is strange.
It is.
It's very different to think about.
And what I think is like.
And it's just as it becomes more real.
It's interesting because I think where I would have thought I would be more and more nervous.

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Yeah.
And I can definitely see.
Look there's a bigger impact on Kelly than me from like this nesting standpoint.
She is in that mode now.
Right.
Like I turn around.
I come into the bedroom the other day and she's got a drawer open and it's all these little compartments that she's all laid out for all the babies.
She's like this is going to be for zero to three.
This is for one.

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She's got all.
And she's just like we're going to be ready.
Yeah.
She's really getting into it.
And to a certain extent I have those.
I have those things too.
You're worried about podcast.
I'm worried about how do I get a shot of that drawer into the podcast.
But it is.
It's fun.
The closer it gets and thinking about and having like today we had like we both had it.

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It sounds silly.
So I've been joking around with one of Kelly's cousins about Disney cruises.
Right.
OK.
They've never been on one but they would like to go.
Sure.
We have been on a bunch and without kids with no kids.
Right.
Like just us.
Just imagine what they're like.
Now we're finally like finally people will look at us weird.
We'll have a baby with us.

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So we're looking at stuff and we were talking to them and they're like well you know we're trying to figure out what the right age is.
I'm like there's baby races now on the Disney cruises.
OK.
There is there is a thing called the Jack Jack baby race.
Wow.
The Jack Jack baby.
So you do who Jack Jack is from the Incredibles.

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The little baby.
Oh yeah.
The baby and the baby of the Incredibles family.
So they do this thing on Sea Day.
So when you're just at sea the middle of the day in the atrium of the ship on whatever ship you're on.
They set up a four lane track for babies in the atrium.
The atrium fills with people.

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Everybody comes to this and they do multiple heats.
You can enter your you enter your baby.
What's the age.
Basically they can't walk if they're not if they're not walking.
It is a baby rally.
And if you if your kid happens to take their first steps at that moment in that they're disqualified.
It is a crawl only your proud moment will be your last.

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Right.
It'll be wonderful and you'll have all kinds of pictures but you lose.
So and it's really overboard.
They'll do like five heats of four.
There's always some kid from Alabama who's a ringer.
And what they do is they let that one one parent or sibling a lot of times will be at the launch area.
And then somebody else is at the other end enticing them.

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Now sadly usually the kids that are that really move are the ones where the person who's enticing them is holding up a phone like come really sad.
Oh that's bad.
Bad sign but works like a charm.
There you go.
So I've been talking to them and I'm like well I think the ideal time is seven months because that's when they're going to be really crawling.

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And they got power.
And so yeah.
So I'm I've already built a test track.
We're gonna we're starting.
So I've been joking around.
You're gonna have sponsors on your baby's onesie like STD.
Yep.
Pennzoil.
DuPont.
We're ready to go.
And I'm teasing him.
I've been teasing him.
I'm like we're we're training.
We start training.
That's funny.

(08:01):
We start training in June.
We're gonna try to peak at the end of November.
And we'll be on one like we were literally looking to book one today.
So good.
So of course I get start getting pushed Disney stuff and my newsfeed.
They push a commercial.
I've never seen this commercial before.
And you know if you've ever been on a cruise they they do towel animals.

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Yes.
On your back.
Absolutely.
You go in every time there's a new animal.
Yep.
So this particular video is they show the Disney cruise cabin and there's a towel puppy on the bed who looks lonely.
And then the steward comes in and takes him and he does like a thing around the ship.
And it's the but the puppy is kind of lonely.

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And the whole point is he's waiting for his family to show up.
The family who's going to be in his room.
And at the end they show a shot a shot from behind the towel puppy.
And you see his little towel tail wagging.
And the door opens and a little girl and a family come through the door.
There you go.
And at that point in watching the commercial Kelly and I both burst into tears like a baby that's been hit with a hammer.

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Like we're just oh my God you guys are not going to make it.
She's crying.
I'm like you have to watch this.
She's crying.
I'm crying.
And then I'm like why are you crying.
Because she looks like more like a sad cry.
This is for me is a happy cry.
Of course.
I'm like what's she's like.

(09:31):
Well I'm like and I'm like use your words to explain to me because in my head it's it is I'm crying.
But it was like it's it's a half.
It's like we're going to get to right.
I'm going to have that.
Yeah we're going to be we're going to be able to do this for our dog.
Right.
Right.
So I sent a text message to her cousin.
I sent a link to it and I tell him Kelly and I just started crying immediately when we watch this.

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We were crying.
But it's funny.
But yeah you get like you get excited with us.
So we're already in training for this race.
Oh yeah.
Yep.
Without a doubt.
Oh yeah.
What do they win.
You know I think the power of my think the one that I think the winner of all so they'll do like four heats and then a finals and then the winner of the final wins I think like a Jack Jack trophy.

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And then the others get like I think at the very least you get a Jack Jack bib or something.
Does he stop that bib is probably 30.
I don't really.
The thing that really really got me down on this.
The whole thing I mean the crying obviously is it's going to happen.
Is the when you said that the main thing that the parent or the other end was holding up was a cell phone or iPhone or smartphone.

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Yeah.
Because in my mind I was thinking food.
No.
I went to like an ice cream or something.
But I'm like OK maybe that's.
I've seen a lot of these because every cruise we go on there's one and I know we never miss it.
Right.
And honestly number one enticement tablet or phone.
And these babies are crawling and they know that.
Yeah.
Number two.
Yeah.
They're crawling under a year old.

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Sad.
So there's that.
Number two enticement which I think is nice is the the older sibling.
Oh like when it's like a four like that four or five year old older sister older brother.
Those do real well.
Then moms or dad.
Gotcha.
Phone.
But the phone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
That will not be the case.

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No.
No.
Because we will already have worked out hand signals.
You're going to have.
I'll be like that's going to be it.
You're going to slide down tricycle make an ice cream.
I'm literally.
I'm looking at a picture of the track.
I have all these pictures from these various events.
I'm like how can I figure out exactly how long that thing is.

(11:50):
Yeah.
Like we're going to have to set it up.
That's funny.
That's good.
We're looking forward to it.
I guess we got things to work on now.
We have a team to put together a baby championship team.
Yeah.
I actually sent that to her to kill us because I'm like we're in training and then I sent him a meme of Mickey you're going to you're going to get crap lightning and what is it a spit spit lightning and crap thunder or lightning.

(12:17):
Yeah.
You're going to eat lightning and crap thunder shit.
But no.
Yeah.
It's it'll be it'll be fun looking at all this stuff.
I say to Kelly like how do they do.
How do they do pictures the characters because that's what you do every night after dinner.
How do you do it with infants.
And Kelly's like there's I already looked there's a Disney dad cruise blind blog that you can look at.

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She's like start doing your research now.
So you guys did you guys.
Okay.
Now that I have you sure because I've always wanted to ask someone and you just answered the question about what you guys do.
You guys enjoy Disney without children.
How.
Why.

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Why.
I would I'm happy to tell you.
Okay.
And I would like anyone who's works for marketing and Disney right now to press record and remember my name Frank Cereo 55 Brewerton New York reach out.
And I'm saying this knowing you and you know this.
I have been turned away on embarkation of a Disney cruise because I had COVID.

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Right.
And I still love them right now.
I've look I've been on other cruise lines.
So I've been on I've been on Princess.
I've been on Royal Caribbean.
I've been on Carnival I think one time I needed like a so you know what you're talking about.
You've seen others.
Yeah, I've seen others.
And I have to say, and I think this is generally accepted in the travel community.

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Disney and celebrity are kind of the gold standard of all the cruise lines.
Disney.
The big difference between Disney and all others is there's no casino on a Disney ship.
Almost all other cruise lines have a casino.
Sure.
Right.
Because there's no casino.
There's more entertainment stuff.
Gotcha.
They also do a dedicated floor.

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Like honestly, as I'm saying this, it's kind of funny because for the first time we will take advantage of there's a whole deck on the ship that's dedicated to kids stuff.
Sure.
There's a there's a nursery like literally you hold hand them the baby, they give you a pager and you go do whatever you want, right?
They take care of it.
So they do all kinds of stuff.
But honestly, it's the service is, I think unparalleled service.

(14:31):
Your quality is what you're looking at.
The service is fantastic.
The room, the staterooms are larger than than the average stateroom and very well thought out.
Very, very well organized.
So service is great.
Stateroom is better.
The food is fantastic and like a very, very high level.
My my sister in law, Kelly's Kelly's brother's wife, Gabe, has been she's one of the few people like her and my brother are probably the only people I know that have been on more cruises than I have.

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And she says the same.
She loves celebrity.
She's been on a bunch of celebrity cruises.
She calls it a tie.
I think she edges celebrity ahead for food quality.
Now, I've never been on a celebrity cruise.
My brother swears by celebrity.
Okay.
But, and I think they're, they're a great cruise line too.
And all the reviews kind of reflect that.

(15:25):
So there's all that stuff.
So generally it's a great experience.
Also, when you think a Disney cruise, I think a lot of people, especially single people think it's all you can imagine is screaming children.
That's why I started this whole conversation.
Yep.
No, not at all.
So the whole, the whole ship is laid out so that there are areas for families, areas for kids and areas that are adults only.

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So there's a whole, the whole, usually the whole aft section of the ship is where the spa is.
No children allowed.
There's a pool.
So there's three pools, right?
There's the kiddie pool, the family pool, and the adults only pool.
There's, there's whole sections.
So you can get away.
And if you want to be away from the kids, but for me being kind of a ridiculous hokey mess, the thing that I love seeing the kids, because you see, you don't just see kids and families, you see multi-generational families, you see kids with their parents, with grandparents, big groups.

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And it's, it's like built for that.
Okay.
And the, the entertainment, if you like Disney stuff, the entertainment's really good.
They have themed, the themed restaurants.
This is going to be, this could be a commercial.
I was just going to say, we just, uh, we just went to a Disney theme.
I could do 30 minutes on the dining experience.
It's like, it's absolutely nuts.

(16:52):
So, so the thing that I was caught up in always was exactly what you just said.
When the first thing I thought of when I hear Disney was children, why in the hell am I going to go into a cruise with all these kids running around?
And, and again, I'm not a huge Disney person.

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So to me, it's like, I understand if I wanted quality and I loved Disney, I'm like, Oh, that's the perfect place.
Let me look into it, but not, not really being a Disney kid at all, ever an adult.
That's like the last thing I think of, but it does make sense with the quality of food and rooms and all that stuff.
Even if you're not, even if you're not super into the Disney stuff, the quality, like the, every night there's a, a, like a Broadway style show in the theater.

(17:43):
It's always Disney theme.
So if you're like a Disney, Oh God, I can't stand it.
You're not going to be happy.
But I'd say if you are neutral or more in a Disney, and yeah, I remember too, now it's all Marvel and Star Wars too.
So all those people, they have Marvel themed restaurants, Disney.
So you got everything going on now.
You got all kinds of IP.

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They're playing all the movies all through the cruise.
They're playing all the Star Wars movies.
You should come.
We would have such a good time.
We are.
I am going on the cruise.
It's not Disney.
I have not been on a Royal Caribbean.
I heard that's all right.
Right.
They were okay.
I liked Royal Caribbean.
Princess was okay too.
The thing I didn't like is, and this is one of the things, again, that I think is a strength for Disney, the dining and a lot of ships, a lot of ships now have different dining experiences, but it used to be like one, mostly one main dining room.

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That's where you have dinner.
Yes.
But the, the big thing when I did the last time I did a princess cruise was anytime dining.
I've heard of that.
Right.
Yep.
And it sounds like a great idea because you don't always, I don't want to go to dinner at eight o'clock every night, six o'clock or seven o'clock.
It's always like two seatings.
Otherwise it sounds like a great idea, but you know what?
This is what you find out.
Anytime dining is the same two times for everyone.

(19:00):
Right.
So instead of knowing you're going to show up at eight o'clock and have your same table, you show up and there's a line because everybody wanted, like you wanted to eat at five 45.
Gotcha.
Right.
Or whenever, whenever it is.
So it sucked.
The other thing that the other thing was not good about it was because of that system, the servers and all the waitstaff were on tip pooling.

(19:23):
So you would never see the same people twice.
And they had zero incentive to really go above and beyond because they will never see you again.
And they're going to get a percentage of, so it's never over the top, like you normal, where they just take, right.
Now with Disney, you're on rotational dining.
So they have three or four dining experiences that you rotate through, but you're always at the same time, but you're always at the same table in a different restaurant.

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So if you're table 152, you're one for you too.
And your servers go with you.
Oh, so you have the same servers, the whole cruise nice experience by the second night.
They know I want my scotch.
They know like they're like, everything's there.
They know what you want.
They don't.
And, and you get great, very, very, very good service.

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Well, there you go, guys.
Uh, that's our, uh, segment of Disney.
Yep.
You're welcome.
And they raise babies.
So that's the baby race.
I mean, that's among other things.
The other thing that's super cute is they have a thing called the Bibbidi-Bobbidi boutique course.
They do where the little girls get all dressed up.
And then the, this is another thing for people who want the experience of pictures with their kids, with the characters.

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If you go to the parks, that's, that's very, that's, that's very hard to do.
Yes.
You're waiting in lines.
You're doing all that stuff on the ship after dinner and between the dinner seatings every night, there's a different set of characters, all always in a different outfit.
And you just line up and get all the pictures you want with every, you can get, you can get a picture of your kid with every character over the course of a cruise.

(21:03):
Okay.
That makes sense.
I've always wanted to ask these people, why are you Disney people?
You have no kids or your kids are not grown.
And I can understand when they're grown.
Cause Oh my God, we did this when they were little and memories, but like in your case, you guys had no kids, but I know how much you love Disney, but now it makes sense of the quality that you're going to get compared to other cruises.
And, um, so yeah, so that's, that's, that's a cool thing.

(21:26):
The only downside is how much it costs.
That's what I was going to say, unfortunately, or whatever the price is going to be obviously a little higher because you're going to get all those good qualities cruising.
It's not, it's not cheap and it never, it was always more expensive.
The thing that's really was a big, like the cruise that we just, we went on last May was an, we went on an Alaskan cruise with the way with the inflation that we've had and all that stuff, their prices stayed pretty stable.

(21:56):
By the time we were back from that cruise, I looked at the next year, identical cruise at the S on the same ship out of the same port to the same ports on this, everything, same date, one year later, 30% more.
Oh, that's a chunk.
It's a lot more.
The seven night cruise that used to be like $3,600 maybe for two is now is now in the mid fives.

(22:24):
And it was just, it just went from there to there.
Just like it's another two grand.
So for our listeners, if you put in gray hair, daycare, uh, in the pocket, in the, in the discount code, you'll get 0% on it and you'll get a error.
Yeah.
You'll get a stuffed animal towel delivered to your home.

(22:44):
The dog will stop wagging.
You never, never know.
Yeah, no, you never, Disney could call us and go, you guys are spot on.
And the way that would be sells it.
I should say now that I just complained about the price, it's worth every penny.
Well, you keep going.
So please.
Yup.
Yup.
There it is.
So that's cool.
It would be nice to be sponsored by something like that.
Wouldn't it?
Yeah.

(23:05):
Wouldn't it be nice podcast right on the, I'd be happy with an annual pass for the parks.
Just give me that.
That would be it.
Yeah.
So that's kind of neat.
So I can see a lot of this in the future.
Oh yeah.
We'll be out now that you have a baby now that we have a reason now that it's not creepy.
It'll be, yeah, it's gonna, we're looking forward to it.

(23:25):
I'm sure we'll probably be on a cruise together.
I'm sure that would be so much fun.
Honestly, the first time we ever had gone with anybody, when we did this Alaskan cruise, we went with Kelly's brother and his wife and it was fantastic.
We had a great time.
It was nice to have, it was nice to have somebody, we weren't always together all day, but we would go to the shows together and we would have dinner together.

(23:46):
I always say, when you go, and I think you feel the same way.
I love going to vacations with group, a group of person, uh, with a couple, another couple, maybe three couple, whatever it is.
And I always want to make sure everybody knows no one's going to get offended if we don't spending every second together.
That has to be, everybody has to be okay with like, we're not ignoring you.

(24:09):
You're good.
You understand?
Like when we want to go, we're going to have dinner, you know, me and my wife are going to have a by ourselves on a Tuesday and everybody's like, Oh, absolutely.
And I'm so glad everybody that we go with feel the same way.
My family, if it's the first time there should be a contract, there should be a, you are not allowed to be offended if I don't hate you.

(24:31):
If we don't have breakfast every morning together, this is not a personal condemnation.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Cause cause otherwise it's too hard, especially as the group gets bigger.
It's like herding cats.
Yeah, no, it's not.
Everybody doesn't want to go at the same pace.
Everybody doesn't want it.
Like that can be hard.
And we'll talk a little bit about that with, cause we were just on vacation.
Oh yeah.
I remember, and maybe you'll get into, yeah.

(24:52):
I remember going to every year we would go to the shore and I would say that wild wood, New Jersey and every year it either got real big or sometimes you go and it's like only two families.
Right.
So I remember the first time when it really got big, we're talking aunts, uncles, cousins, second generation, everybody was there that year.
That's nice.

(25:12):
So it was, it was, it was really nice.
And I remember, and this is my own mother.
I remember when my wife and I would be like, Hey, we noticed that you guys go to the boardwalk when it's like seven 38 o'clock chaos.
We have children in like in strollers.
We don't do that.
We don't want to do that.

(25:33):
That's doesn't make sense to the children.
So while you guys are eating dinner, that's when we're going to go up there and my mother be like, we're all together.
Right.
We can't, we can't split.
What are they going to say?
What are the people going to say if you are not eating dinner with them?
They're going to think we're mad and you're, and I'm like, it's vacation.
Yeah.

(25:53):
It's okay.
And, and, and I remember, I remember that being like in my, my wife, she's not in the, she wasn't just like, what are you talking about?
We're just going to go.
Yeah.
If I, why are we, why are we offending your mother?
Yeah.
We still love you.
Yeah.
So I'm glad now that the people that we do go with, you have to have that.
I think once you have to have it, once you have it, once you've done it and it works, then you're okay.

(26:16):
Then everybody kind of gets into that.
Really?
Yeah.
Like if we went, we wouldn't be a talked about.
Yeah.
We're never like, Oh, car.
I'm Tuesday.
I'm me and Kelly are going to do this.
Cool.
Yep.
You know, call us when you're done or we would see tomorrow.
We would have a great time if you came and we would have fun.
No, I'm sure this is going to be something happening without a doubt, without a doubt.

(26:38):
Yeah.
So now that we've meandered around for a little while, we will get into our first segment, the silver Fox mailbox.
All right.
So this time our communication came through TikTok.
Oh, nice.
Now, since our last episode, since our last episode, people were teetering on the brink with the potential of TikTok being shut down.

(27:04):
And then Trump swooped in with an executive order.
And I think it's, it's still not settled.
It's a temporary, there's a temporary thing and with the idea that they will find some way to basically secure ownership to somebody other than the communist party in China.
So we'll see how that that's right.
China.

(27:25):
So yeah, so there were, but so we got this on TikTok.
Okay.
So TikTok in response to one of our little reels that we put out, Joanna Halpern commented, we had, we were talking about the baby helmets.
Oh yeah.
The shaping of the shape.
Yeah.
So she commented that they are cause those helmets are custom made.
I felt like I may have offended her because it was like, Oh God, I hope I didn't.

(27:47):
If you're listening, she just said, those helmets are very, are custom made and they're very expensive.
So I did a little research and they are in fact, I didn't think this qualified as I was wrong.
Right.
Cause we, this was, we could have a new segment called.
I was dismissive or disrespectful, care more about things, but I don't.
Yeah.
I said, yeah, try to care more.

(28:07):
But so it is called cranial arthosis.
They do it till they're about three months old.
It is not at all painful for the kid, but yeah, it's like, it can be, it can be a thing.
Mike, my question is, and of course you, you, everything's, you know, follow them, follow the money.
Why is it expensive?

(28:28):
Why is it, why is it expensive?
Yeah.
Cause it's insured.
Like people get insured.
I mean, why is it, it's a helmet.
I mean, it should.
Well, I think because it is I think, yeah, it is, but they are custom.
Okay.
Well, yeah, if your kid, if your kid needs a helmet to, you're going to pay that.
Well, and it's also, well, first of all, I think from an emotional standpoint, yeah.

(28:50):
If somebody says, well, you know, your kid could look like a sideshow or, or for $800, you can fix it.
You're going to be like, here's my money.
But also, yeah.
Like when you think about it, if your kid needs it, chances are his head is a shape that they need to have a custom thing for.
So yeah, I don't, I think it's, it is one of those things that you wonder, and I don't know if it's covered by insurance or not, or how that would work.

(29:16):
I bet you anything it's an elective thing.
And that everybody who they present it to, can you picture being the dad?
They'd be like, nah, I'll just, that would be my father.
He's like, I'll make a helmet.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I'd be wearing a Buffalo bills helmet for sleep with this.
I remember watching my, he had dentures for years and years, and he had lost a tooth.

(29:39):
And it like a fallen out of his, his upper plate.
And I come downstairs one morning and he's just using, gluing it back in with super glue.
He's like, I'm not going back to that dentist.
Yeah.
So yeah, I would have had a DIY helmet and be like, what's that?
It's so funny.
You mentioned that every time I look at my father, there's a one less tooth in his mouth.

(30:02):
What are you doing with these things?
Where are these chiclets going?
I mean, I'm looking at him like, and he never mentions it.
And they talk to you like nothing's wrong with their mouth.
Do you not know you have three missing teeth?
This is what they were.
I mean, they're old enough where they didn't, yeah.
They didn't have any fluoride in the water.
My dad, now this was before I was born, but my, I think my sister is the one.

(30:26):
My sister Lucille told me this story.
I know it's true.
My dad had for years had trouble with this teeth.
And finally he just got sick of it.
And he went to a dentist and said, pull them, just pull out my teeth, pull them all out.
I heard that story more than I think it's that generation.
And give me dentures.
Yeah, just fake them.
And the doctor's like, I can't just pull them all out.

(30:49):
He's like, well, how many can you pull?
He had them pull out all of his top teeth at once while he was at work.
He was like, he was just, he just went from work and came home one day from work.
And he jokingly came through the door like a boxer.
Like he got his teeth knocked out and he had pulled all of his stuff.
And then he went back like a couple of days later, all the rest, and then took the mold.

(31:10):
He had no teeth for weeks because they had to let the swelling and swelling go down so that he could then have the, have the molds made.
How funny is that?
Who does that?
Take them out, doc.
Just, just pull all of them here.
I'll pay cash.
It is amazing.
I say this as a joke, but it's so true.
Like, I couldn't imagine my father signing up to go to Planet Fitness because the tanning is free.

(31:38):
When he was 56.
Yeah, no, no, no, not, not gonna work.
And I say it without even shame.
Yeah, no.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, you guys throw in the tanning.
Oh, that's great.
Cause then I can just cancel my other company.
No.
Can you imagine?
Could you imagine our parents?
No, my father would be like, what are you, what are you paying for?

(31:59):
What are you doing?
What exactly?
No.
So I got a free tanning machine.
It's the sun.
Yeah.
Go work outside.
Go outside.
Take your shirt off.
Cut the lawn.
You know, work in the garden.
And I sit there sometimes and I go, what happened to us?
What happened to us?
It is very different.
I mean, wow.

(32:21):
The thought, the vein, like you're going from pull my teeth doc.
And I'm like, can I get a little tanner?
And I want some highlights in my hair.
Yeah.
Wouldn't that be nice?
I can't go gray.
God, no.
God forbid.
Yeah.
No, that would be bad.
Oh God.
Yeah.
It's a, we're different than them.
And look in the kids are even more.
So the helmets, the helmets, we knew they were obviously important.

(32:44):
I mean, I don't think, I don't think I might be behind.
I think I said I needed one.
I could be buying one.
You know, I could be buying one.
Yeah.
You never know in a little while.
You never know.
Cause I know we were talking about, um, sleeping on the, the head and the flap.
I have that.
I know.
Oh yeah.
I absolutely have it.
Absolutely have.
I can feel it.
I don't want to, I can't go bald.

(33:04):
I cannot, I'm going to have to have a patch of hair.
Even if I go anymore, lose any more hair, I have to have a circular.
Well, if it isn't that flat, you could really cut a piece of carpet right there.
It'll be nice and easy to fix.
So, uh, I wish I did have that helmet.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
I think it is too late, but 1968 in Sicily, I don't think they had helmets.
No, they didn't.
Yeah, they did.

(33:24):
It was for another reason.
Yeah.
But so that was, so join a helper and thank you for that.
And then we did have also a comment because there was one video that we were talking about the fact that I worked at friendlies and that's kind of how I met you.
And one of our listeners, Lori exclaimed that she also worked at friendly, not the Lori.

(33:45):
Yeah.
Lori are Lori Phil's Lori.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did.
I remembered that afterwards.
Yeah.
She worked, I think she was the one.
Yeah, she listens.
Oh, cool.
Hi, right.
I think James should.
Yeah.
Right.
Or it was a team.
Yeah.

(34:06):
Yeah.
I think so either way, either way you could, you could sell us out.
We were wrong.
If that wasn't the one I was in the one in Manitoba, Manitoba.
That's the one I went to.
That's the only one.
I don't want to cross you from Kramer.
Yep.
Yeah, that's right.
Cause you were working at Kramer.
That's right.
So that was it.
So that was silver Fox mailbox.
Any, any, uh, any interesting stories or comments?

(34:27):
We love doing that.
We do.
Now we're going to do one.
We have not done in four weeks.
We're going to move on to check please.
So it's been four weeks.
Let's get our math on.
And we are, we were at $1,401 and 95 cents.

(34:49):
So 1,400, 1,400, 1,400, four weeks ago.
Four weeks.
And you, if you want to ask for clues, I love, I love the guess.
Sure.
Yeah.
We will go.
So where do you think we are?
So a month ago, 1,400 month ago, 14, um, any purchases on furniture yet for the baby or the room?

(35:11):
That's what you always go there first because that's expensive.
Yes.
Any paints of the room bought?
No, no paint.
Cause paint could be expensive.
Clothing for the baby.
Oh, we've been accumulating a lot of that through shower and gifts.
So gifts, not more.
Nothing on the, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a freebie and say it is only furniture.

(35:38):
I was going to be my next ask question.
Is it only furniture?
Okay.
So I'm going to give you another clue.
Oh my God.
It's only one item of furniture.
One item.
Is this furniture custom made?
It is not because we realized custom made stuff are a little more expensive than just going to the store and purchase.

(36:02):
I could have called Phil and had him make something.
I'm going to say, because you've been talking about this really expensive stroller thing.
I don't know if that's furniture or would that be for, that'd be my last question.
Would that be furniture?
What?
That expensive stroller baby you've been talking about?
A stroller would not be.
Okay.
So it's not that.

(36:23):
So it's going to be a sleeping thing.
I'm going to say the new total because I always under, I'm very underwhelming.
You have missed a couple of times and you're usually under.
Very under.
So I'm going to go over.
I'm going to say right now, I'm just going to say it.
I'm going a thousand dollars more.
I'm going to go 2,400.
2,400.
So if we were playing prices, right rules, you would not, you would not be over.

(36:46):
Okay.
Uh, but you are under 3,077.17. So let me explain.
3,000.
No, not another 3,000 total.
So we went up, we went up about 1,660 bucks.
So, so here's the, here's where we are.

(37:06):
Explain yourself.
The thing you were talking about was not a stroller, but I've been talking about a bassinet.
Bassinet.
That's what it was called.
The snoo.
That's what it was.
I, okay.
Apparently.
So the snoo very fancy bassinet, the very fancy bassinet had some availability issues.
Of course it did.
So of course there is a even more expensive thing called a cradle wise.

(37:31):
So the cradle wise.
So that's a step higher than the snoo?
Yes.
Now some, there are some things that made me feel a little better.
So the, the snoo is a bassinet and is supposedly only viable for six months.
Okay.
Okay.
The cradle wise is a bassinet that transforms into a cradle.

(37:55):
Basically you can use it for up to two years.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So you get two years use out of it, but it's another $400 on top of it.
But the cradle wise is a modern wonder of technology.
This thing is amazing.
What does it do?
So it does all kinds of fun things.
So that's, that's what made it was the cradle wise.

(38:16):
Okay.
That's what made the jump.
But good job.
You were, you, you went heavy.
You just didn't go heavy enough.
I thought, yeah, I thought a thousand dollars.
I kind of threw you off with, I should have said one item makes you immediately think, okay, one big item.
But yeah, that's a lot, but no.
So, but we'll talk more about the cradle wise on our next segment, which will be what just happened.

(38:39):
So the change.
So here's the change from the snoo to the cradle wise.
The big first thing is, and this decision was made in the last week.
Sure.
There was availability issues with the snoo.
We start looking at other options.
So the, the cradle wise you get to use until 24 months.
So you get a little bit more use out of it.

(39:00):
Gotcha.
Second thing is it has a built in baby monitor video baby monitor.
Good.
Okay.
Now it used, this is the way this thing works, which I think is fascinating.
It watches the baby and listens to the baby.
Okay.
As the baby starts to stir.

(39:21):
Okay.
If the baby wakes up in the middle of the night before they even cry, the, the, the cradle wise monitor sees the movement and starts rocking the baby back to sleep.
Now, instead of a rock rocking motion back and forth, it uses a up and down motion, much more like a parent that is kind of bouncing up and down as they walk around.

(39:49):
Does that now the snoo once the baby cries, it does that.
This thing cuts the four to cry before it even starts to cry.
The little bouncy bounce, get them back to sleep.
Now the snoo does that until it times out.
So it has a timer.
So once it starts, it just does it for a certain amount of time.

(40:10):
Kid keeps crying.
It just goes well.
The cradle wise watches and analyze.
As soon as the kid starts to settle down, it stops.
This is scary.
It not only does that, so it shuts off when they say that it also, because it's watching the baby the whole time, there is an app on your phone.
You can look, you can see the baby from anywhere in the world.

(40:33):
You go online and there it is.
You see, you can see the baby monitor, the camera, and it gives you sleep analytics, tells you how much sleep the baby's getting.
Like it's incredibly, it's, it really is like, it's like incredible, the stuff it does.
So I just to let, just to let you viewers and listeners, Frank loves technology.

(40:54):
I do loves, loves China.
He loves technology.
So this is right up here.
I mean, if I had known about this before we ran into the trouble with the snoo, I probably would have been like, yeah, let's just get that.
Like it's, it's definitely cool enough.
Right.
And again, I do look at it as if it's getting us more sleep and keeping the baby happy and sleeping.

(41:19):
So the bassinet turns into a, I guess a crib, small, a small crib.
So it looks like a crib.
It looks like a cradle.
So it goes like from a bassinet to a cradle.
I guess I'm not picturing a cradle, how a cradle look like a cradle is like a small crib.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cause you have the size of the crib.

(41:40):
That's where you put the one down so you can kneel over and baby.
It looks like that.
It still would do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a light, it's like a blonde mahogany look.
So you're going to save money or at least we'll sleep more like that's it.
But yeah.
And yeah, it would have, it eliminates kind of a step, right?
I mean, another piece of furniture that you would end up buying.

(42:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
So, uh, so yeah, so that was the, that was a decision that we kind of, we made, can't believe because my wife and I were talking about, um, the, the diaper genie and she's like, my God, that was at least 18 years ago from Nick.
It has to be better.
And I do remember she, she mentioned that I do remember even at the time of the, of, of back then, which was great.

(42:28):
You could still sense a little smell area.
Sure.
Right.
So it has to be it has to be, this is one of those things that really, when we do whatever, if we do concoct a test, you're the one who's going to have to test it because as we have talked about a couple of times, I think I have zero sense of smell, no sense of smell.
Um, but yeah, so I would think the technology has come along, but like with this thing, I, I, it's amazing.

(42:53):
The technology is super cool.
I mean, we were talking about last week, I think it was last week, the AI.
Yeah.
Now that's going to be into everything.
Who knows what that'll do.
I mean, you're not even gonna need parents.
The crib is going to be like, wash you change your diaper.
Google's just going to tell you to leave.
Like we got the kid just go away.
It's so funny.

(43:13):
But that, so that's going to be something that's going to be a need to check out.
I love that.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
The bed moves.
Oh yeah.
Because that's what it is because I, I remember not me, but my cousin had a child that you could do anything and it didn't work unless you got in a car and drove around and drove around.

(43:35):
Yep.
That's funny.
I mean, it was like they tried the last resort would be like, Oh my God, I don't want to get in the car.
It's where they would try everything and nothing worked.
They were like, get in the car.
Isn't that funny?
And they have to drive around.
I think that that is one thing that is not going to work because the few times, the couple of times we've taken longer drives, it's been, I don't think that's going to work because literally little Josie is, she likes, Oh gosh, so the car's not going to work.

(44:05):
So let's, let's hope the cradle wise does.
That's cool.
That's cool.
Yeah.
When you, I did not even expect that the putting the baby back because that's the whole thing is when they wake up, cause they will wake up and it's like, okay, how fast can you get them back to that movement?
That's it.
In the, in that knowing it before it starts crying and it has a bunch, and I know I'm probably not doing it justice because it also has all kinds of dryer.

(44:33):
It has all kinds of things.
You can set up whole routines to get the baby to sleep initially, not just to keep them asleep, but to get them to sleep.
So yeah, so it should be good.
We'll probably do a whole episode.
Oh, I'm sure.
I remember the whole thing when they said, so there's two teams of this and the best team would be like, let the baby cry.
But when they said, Oh yeah, you got it.

(44:55):
They got to learn how to follow, how to follow a self, self, self soothe.
And that's the worst part because you're hearing your baby crying and generally they're a little bit older.
Oh, it's going to rip it, but you can't go, you can't go.
You got to let them cry it out and put them to sleep, but it's going to be, I used to tear me up because with Nick, I was more of a stay at home dad.

(45:22):
So it killed me hearing it, but I'm like, I can't do this.
I can't, you know, it's gotta be hard.
It's gotta be, I'm sure it'll be very hard and it's interesting.
I look at a lot of this stuff and there's all this, I honestly think is crap online about gentle parenting.
And when you listen to the people who are advocates of gentle parenting, they basically, their argument is the whole idea of self soothing is basically teaching your child pre-verbally that when they need help, there's no help coming.

(45:54):
That it's basically like, this is basically how, if you want to create a sociopath, do that.
Right.
It's absolutely insane.
The how crazy they are about it.
Yeah.
I imagine.
All you have to do is just complain and someone's going to come running to you.
Or you could teach them that I'm always going to run and I'm going to always help you out.
If you fart too loud, I'm going to be right there.

(46:15):
Let me tell you, I, I, it's tough.
It's tough to hear your child crying, but that moment that they figured it out.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
This makes sense because they're going to get tired.
They're turning themselves up and they go lay down and they fall asleep.
So, but, um, we'll get back to that.
Yes, we will.
So, but so the, the rest of, of what just happened.

(46:36):
So we kind of made that determination while we were traveling.
So we were, we had talked about, we were going on vacation.
Yeah.
So we left, we were going to West Palm beach.
We had a flight, we had to fly through JFK and we had kind of a, you know, fairly early, not, not crazy early flight.
And we get there and this is, this is how it starts.

(46:59):
We get there, we have one big bag, one little bag.
We're checking both bags.
Okay.
The big bag, I was a little worried.
It felt a little heavy.
Put up on the scale, 73 pounds, 54 pounds, four pounds over.
And the woman looks at us and goes, and it's an additional $150.

(47:20):
Now I'm thinking, okay, we could just open the thing up in the middle of the airport and pull things out and shove it into the other bag.
Cause the other bag, there's no way it's 50 pounds.
We had two bags, one 54 and I'm like, I'm like, no.
Okay, fine.
Here, give her the credit card.
150 bucks.
Then I put mine up and my bag that I paid the same amount as that.

(47:42):
It was like 40 bucks for each, but then another one 50 cause it's four pounds over.
And I put my bag up and it's 24 pounds.
Oh God.
And I look, I look at the woman, I'm like, so you owe me like $1,200.
Like what, what is, you know, and she just looks at me and I'm like, okay.
But yeah, so combined weight, 78 pounds, I would be allowed a hundred, but because one of them is 54, I had to pay an additional $150 that that's the kickoff of my travel.

(48:13):
But anyway, go ahead.
Give me your, why?
I know you.
Yes.
Why didn't you stop and go one second, please.
Right.
Let me take these shoes or whatever you have and pop them in here.
Cause I've seen many people do this.
I've done this.
Yeah.
Because you just didn't want to deal with it.
I just didn't want to deal with it.

(48:33):
And I was just like, whatever.
Second question.
Don't you weigh these things at home?
No, I've never had an over overweight bag.
I always, I usually can ballpark it.
We weigh all of our stuff.
Next time probably will.
And I did better on the way back.
I'll say that.
But so we do that.
So that started off with a shit.
It starts off there.
Yeah.
Okay.

(48:53):
We get, we get our stuff.
We get, go through security.
We get to our gate and we're, you know, who cares?
Then they get on, they come on the announcement.
Uh, well, uh, there's going to be a delay, but we should be no more than 30, 45 minutes.
And there's, I see a guy in a uniform.
Looks like he's a pot.

(49:15):
Maybe he's a pilot.
So, and I'm listening to him and it's, I'm getting the impression that somebody didn't charge, like the batteries on the plane are dead overnight.
Now.
So this was, this plane came in from, I think Chicago the night before and has been sitting there overnight and it's super cold.

(49:35):
Weather's been cold.
So that's it.
Oh, the battery's charging.
And then they delayed again and then they delayed again.
And then I strike up a conversation with this guy and this guy happens to be the co-pilot and he's also the co-pilot on our next flight from JFK to Palm beach.
So you're connecting, he's still going to be there.

(49:56):
Uh, yeah.
And he's, so he's going to miss that flight if he doesn't get there.
And so I'm like, well, what are you going to do?
He's like, well, yeah, I think just a tight and you know, so really nice guy.
And the, but then finally it's, they delay it again.
And he says, you know what?
I'm going to go try and get on a flight on Delta and get down to get to JFK.
I don't know if you want to do that or not, but you might want to consider it.

(50:20):
And I'm like, I'm just like, you know what?
I looked at Kelly and we'll just hang out this morning.
Still here.
Yeah.
It was like, I think our flight was supposed to be at like nine.
And by this time it's like approaching 10 30.
Okay.
So it's been a while.
It's been delayed a few times and then not great.
Then flight, then the, apparently the battery was another, the second battery won't charge flights canceled.

(50:42):
Ooh, everybody gets up and lines up to rebook.
Okay.
So Kelly's there.
I'm like, go find a seat.
And I get in line and I'm on, I call the airline rather than just be in line.
Cause everybody just like, I'm like 30th in line.

(51:03):
And before we even lined up and when they were just getting delayed in this, in kind of in my peripheral vision, I see this girl, if you, there was a poster child for a broken idiot millennial, it's, it's her.
Okay.
And she's having a conversation panicked on the phone with some poor parent or guardian or who knows about how she they're, they're delaying it again and they're going to cancel it.

(51:33):
I just know when this is horrible.
I don't know.
Her whole life's going to end up in line behind this girl.
Of course.
It's fantastic.
So to give a picture, I would guess her, she's between 25 and 30 years old.
She's not a kid.
25, between 25 and 30.
She should know better.
Yeah.
Short, clearly self-cut red hair in short pigtails.

(51:56):
One of those Stanley cup mugs covered in glitter with a flower straw, shiny green reflective shoes, just like a poster child for millennial nonsense.
Right.
Literally stomping her feet like a child yelling in.

(52:18):
She's the baby in the crib that her parents ran in and helped her when she was crying.
Yep.
Yelling at whoever's on the other end of the phone.
Come fix this.
I can't, I don't want to like just losing her mind.
This is literally this is a hell.
And I'm thinking to myself, no, it's not honey.
You have no idea what life has in store for you.

(52:41):
You are in a nice warm airport in Syracuse, New York.
Yeah.
You are not in hell.
No.
And, and well, it is.
It's close.
It's close, but you're not.
So I'm behind this one the whole way.
Now I have already rebooked us on the next flight by the time we get to the front of the line.

(53:02):
But I kind of, I'm invested now.
Cause I want to see what happens to this girl when she gets to her life.
Now I'm like, she's in yours.
Clearly I am.
I am looking, I'm paying attention.
I see on her phone, whoever she's talking to the name that comes up is like Lord Voldemort.
Like it's not, I swear to God, it's like something that's just crazy nonsense.

(53:25):
Just a completely, just a completely ridiculous human being.
So we get up to the front and there's this nice young kid, probably in his early twenties taking care of one after another.
Yeah.
He's on a roll.
Nobody's going to New York, right?
They're going somewhere else.
So he's got to rebook everybody.

(53:45):
They're flying to JFK to go somewhere else.
So, and he's been doing a good job.
He's still looking chipper.
And he, then I see him look up and see this girl who is literally like crying, losing her mind.
He's like, and he was great.
He's like, you know, just, you know, come on up.
We're going to get you taken care of.
Don't worry.
You know, I'm going to say, let me see your ticket.

(54:05):
And he's gone.
And I can just see his face just dropping like, Oh, cause he has to tell her something.
Oh, this is not going to be pretty.
And he looks up and goes, I can't, there's, I haven't, there's nothing I can't.
She's trying to get to Chicago.
He's like, there's nothing, there's nothing we can do.

(54:26):
I don't have anything.
There's no way for me to get you to Chicago.
And she's now like shaking and he's like, let me see, let me look, let me see if I can find something on another airline.
And again, you can just see, it's like if his face could have slid off, it would have.
And he's fine.
He's like, there's, there's nothing, there's no way for me to get you there today.

(54:50):
There's even, even on another airline.
Well, what can I, can I, can I at least get a reason?
He's like, absolutely.
I'll be like, let me, let me see.
We'll get you a refund.
Get your refund.
He goes in.
Sorry.
Well, you, you, you, you paid for this flight with a voucher.

(55:10):
So I, I can't give you the refund.
And I'm just like, wow.
And, and she has to be another credit.
He's like, basically she had to go somewhere else to get this credit.
He's at the gate and he's like, so she, and she, to her credit, didn't like, she wasn't mean to the guy or anything, but just kind of wandered off in a puddle and she was gone.

(55:36):
That sucks.
I mean, I understand that sucks.
Oh, that's a shitty thing.
It's a shitty thing.
But, but yeah, so then not, not a great travel experience, but also come on, you know, you'll be, you're going to, you're going to be okay.
So I get up, I get it.
I'm like, first of all, I'm like, first of all, good job.
Like you handled that as well as anyone could possibly handle it.

(55:58):
And I only had one question, which was at this point, I'm like, I'm all, I already rebooked while we were online.
I just wanted to watch that happen.
I'm not even going anywhere.
I'm here for a, I'm like, yeah, this is just what I do for fun, complain, spy at the airport.
I know I didn't do that.
So I said, I just want to know what's going on with my bag.

(56:19):
Like I've rebooked.
And cause when I was, when I rebooked on the phone, I asked, I'm like, I checked a bag.
I'm pretty sure they've been loaded.
I don't know what happened.
Like what's going to happen to my bag if, because you rebooked me.
And they said, we don't know check with the gate agent.
So I'm like, so they told me to ask you.
He said, Oh, you have to go back downstairs, back down through security and they will, they will retag your bag.

(56:43):
And I said, do I need to go get my bag and bring it to the, get to the, to the counter again?
He's like, I'm not sure.
Go down and check at the counter down there.
Okay.
I said, well, look, I'll go downstairs.
I'll take her, but my wife's pregnant.
She doesn't have to go do this.
Does she?
And he's like, Oh no, no, no.
Let me give you her boarding pass to the, if anybody gives you any hard time to tell them the supervisor up here said, okay, thank you.

(57:09):
So I go downstairs and there's still a huge line down there.
And the people in front of me in this line are the people that were in front of crazy Pippi Longstocking.
Pippi Longstockings.
And so immediately they turn around and we bond over her insanity.
That's so funny.
And we're, we're kind of, you know, we're kind of talking and laughing about it.

(57:30):
And then, but then I hear the girl now for anybody who has never, ever been to lovely Syracuse Hancock and internet international airport, just a kind of a big long.
Yeah.
Atrium.
Not a huge airport.
That echoes.
Sure.
She is now out there maybe 30 yards away from us openly heaving, sighing, crying on the phone with somebody just echoing through the terminal.

(57:56):
Yeah.
And I'm like, Oh man.
So I'm watching.
I try to get the, there's clearly a supervisor helping these people at the jet blue counter.
And I try to get his attention because I'm not confident we're, I'm afraid we're going to wait through this line and somebody is going to say, where's your bag?
Right.
And the people, and I asked the people in front of us and they're like, they, I think we're supposed to be here, but nobody knows.

(58:21):
So I'm like, Hey, I came down from the, Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Just that's, that's the line.
The guy clearly not even.
Yeah.
He didn't want to hear what you're not paying attention to me.
Not a, so I'm watching.
Now I notice a few people ahead of us in line is a guy who was on our flight.
So you can see what he's going to go through.
And he has a bag.
Ooh.
And I'm like, Oh, so, and we've been waiting now for, Was it a carry on or was it a bigger luggage?

(58:43):
He had luggage.
Okay.
With a tag on.
This is interesting.
So now I'm like, okay, maybe he went and got his bag.
Maybe we need to do that.
So I talk, I'm talking to my new friends.
I'm like, he's got a bag.
Do you think maybe like, we don't know.
And I'm like, okay.
So now I just walk, I just walk up front to the, to the counter.

(59:06):
You said 20, my bag before I sit here.
And I see, I see a girl that I walk up.
I'm like, Hey, look, we're from the flight to JFK that got canceled.
I'm with other people in line.
We were told to come down here.
Do we go get our bag or not?
And, and they're like, Oh, what's your name?
They put it into a thing.
They're like, Oh, I'll take care of it.

(59:28):
Okay.
No problem.
Then the supervisor from upstairs appears from behind the counter.
Jesus.
And she's, and I see her and she's like, don't worry.
I'll make sure your bag gets tagged.
But now I feel bad because the people who were in front of me in line that weren't bold enough to come.
The ones you made friends with.
Yeah.
So I'm like, well, those people are waiting to come.
They're doing the same thing.
And they're like, just have them come up.

(59:48):
So I'm like, come on up.
So they're like, Oh, thank you so much.
They were very happy.
So I get them up.
Thank you.
I know they already dealt with her.
Yeah.
They're who knows what they're going to do with her.
So anyway, they get their thing taken out.
We go up and then they give us, they gave us vouchers for lunch.
I mean, they tried to do what they could, but that's a rough start.

(01:00:09):
It was a great, that was not a great, not a great start.
Then we get this blew my mind.
Then we get to JFK.
Now we got to JFK so late.
You missed.
We missed our connecting flight.
So now we got to wait until a later one supposed to be at 8 30 PM PM.
We were supposed to get to Palm beach at like four 30.
Now we're leaving JFK and he just missed a whole day.

(01:00:31):
We're going to get in at 10 30.
I'm like, okay, look, it is what it is.
We're hanging out.
And we're also in jet blue terminal, like terminal four and JFK is like the shitty one.
There's no lounge.
It's, it's the J it's the terminal.
There's like a food court and so nothing.
So we're hanging out.
Then I'm watching and our flight.

(01:00:51):
Now it gets pushed.
It's about, it's about, we should be boarding at like eight, eight 30.
It's eight o'clock now it says, oh no, you're, you're boarding at nine.
And I'm like, oh no.
Then we're boarding at nine 15.
Now it's five after eight.
And then all of a sudden it changes.
We're boarding now.
And I'm like, okay, we get bored.

(01:01:13):
We're in the group a, we get boarded.
We're toward the front of the airplane.
Everybody gets boarded.
And I can see because we're up front, we can see the flight attendants are a little agitated one in particular.
And I hear her talking to a gate agent and she's like, why, why did, why did they do this?
Why would we board these people?
And I, and I, and then I'm looking around and thinking, okay, there's no flight crew on this plane.

(01:01:37):
It's the flight attendants and nobody, the door to the cockpit, there's nobody in there, nobody.
And she's like, why would they board without, why would they board without a crew?
They should never board without a crew.
And we're listening.
I'm trying to pay attention.
And apparently the story is the pilot for our plane was on property and, and the flight attendant says points out the window, three gates down is the flight he came in on.

(01:02:05):
So he flew in on that plane, but nobody knows where he is in the shitter.
So now people, now it's eight 15.
We're boarded.
It's eight 30.
And now it says, we're going to, we're not leaving until nine.
Now you're sitting in eight 45.
It says, we're not leaving until nine 15.
And people are coming up front.
And the, the poor flight attendants are like, you guys know more than us.

(01:02:30):
You're going to get updates from the app.
We don't, we don't know what's going on.
And they tell us the whole thing of he's supposedly on property.
The gate agent comes down.
Don't worry.
Shouldn't be more than another 15 minutes, a half hour time goes by.
Now it's nine, it's nine 30.
We're sitting there.
We've been on the plane for an hour and a half.

(01:02:52):
It's 30 degrees outside the jet ways.
Well, but now because they can't turn the heating and air conditioning system on in the plane, Oh no, it's, it's a full flight back of the plane.
93 degrees.
Oh my God.
People start coming up.
So saying you have to let us off the plane, but they won't let us back into the terminal because they closed the door.

(01:03:16):
They started.
So now they say, okay, they start letting people in groups from the back of the plane.
Now we were fine.
Kelly still had on her winter coat because we're up front and the door to the cold jet way is open.
So it was fine for us.
But in the back, they're sending people in groups to rotating, to cool down on the jet way and then go back.

(01:03:38):
So they're going from 93 degrees.
Yeah.
And, and, but they were nice enough to give us plantain chips and water.
Thank God.
So at this point, then a, I was going to say an assistant pilot, uh, the co-pilot, the co-pilot shows up and starts turning shit on.
So then the, but he doesn't, there's no crew until a quarter to 10 and the flight and the pilot gets on at 10 o'clock.

(01:04:07):
We didn't take off until almost 10 30.
We were on the plane for over two hours.
Wow.
Sitting at the gate.
What happened to the guy that was supposed to be?
And I think this is you, you, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts about this.
I think this is the most bullshit story I've ever heard.
Okay.
Supposedly the pilot on the other plane said one of the passengers of that plane took his suitcase Oh, and he went after them to try to get it.

(01:04:36):
Now I've been on overhead.
I've been on enough flights.
Have you ever seen a pilot's suitcase?
It's always gotten like chart maps.
It's like a hard shell.
It never looks like, right.
Even they usually put it in.
It doesn't even look like a flight attendant's one.
Like it's not a travel pro pro or a to me.
It's like a big clunky thing.
Yeah.

(01:04:56):
What are the odds that somebody is going to mistake that for theirs and take it?
Yeah.
So I think that was a complete BS story.
But regardless of whatever it was, we, yeah, we were on the, we got boarded at like eight Oh five and we didn't take off until 10 30 and we didn't get to Palm beach.
And then that's the other thing.
Once I realized before we even got on the plane, I realized we were going to get, we weren't going to get to Palm beach until after midnight and the car rental place closed at midnight.

(01:05:25):
Oh God.
So I had no idea what we were really.
Yeah.
And poor Kelly.
I mean, you know, she's seven months pregnant and she was exhausted, but she was a trooper through the whole thing.
And we get there.
I just called, you know, called an Uber and we got it.

(01:05:46):
Luckily, you know, got our bags and got in and we were playing, the place we're staying at was very, very close.
So it was like a 10 minute drive and we were at the VRBO where we stayed.
So it was a little, you lose a whole day.
I mean, it's one thing to say, you know what?
It's a travel day, but we'll get there for, or we'll get there three.
We can enjoy dinner.
We can relax.

(01:06:07):
And then you go from that, which is you're already going on, you know, it's a half a day.
Now you're the whole day's gone.
And you've been just sitting around.
And for us, we're old.
We're in bed by nine 30.
I can't remember the last time I was, I was in bed earlier on New Year's Eve, the two 30, the more like I'm 30 in the morning, roaming around the airport at two 30 in the morning, like a zombie looking for an Uber driver.

(01:06:31):
Are you Omar?
That's tough to travel part about it.
And, and all I could say is to bring it back to what we do.
Could you imagine doing that with a child?
Cause there's people, of course, you're going to Florida, right?
You're going to Florida.
There's going to be kids.
There were people on that flight with little kids and thank goodness there weren't any screamers or any of that stuff.

(01:06:52):
Yeah.
But no, that would be horrible.
Imagine because that happens all the time.
And I can remember going to Florida when our kids were younger and I, you know, we've been lucky.
We've never went into that situation, but it would be, yeah, it just ruins everything.
And it feels like there's nothing you can do.
There's nothing I can't even get off.

(01:07:15):
This is one of the things that I do think Kelly and I talked about it at length cause we had a lot of time that I was amazed.
I literally was, I was consciously like, I can't believe I am not losing my mind.
I am much more calm than I used to be.
And I attribute it entirely to the whole conversation that you you're giving in my mind.

(01:07:41):
I was thinking, where is the, where Frank's manager or CEO Frank, where is he snapping?
No.
What part of that is coming out?
Where is it?
I expect it right here.
It didn't come out.
So something has obviously changed.
Yeah, seriously.
It was, it was good.
I thought, yeah, I thought I literally was like, yeah, it was the most, the most direct thing I said to anybody.

(01:08:06):
I, the whole thing was when they finally got us in the air and the girl who was, there was one flight attendant on the flight where we kept getting delayed.
That was the only one that was really, truly advocating for the, for the people on the plane.
Nice.
She was trying really hard.
And when she came finally for a beverage service, I'm like, I just want to tell you, you are a superhero.
I'm like, you did such a good job.

(01:08:28):
And she's like, if I was a superhero, I wouldn't be on this flight.
And I was like, she was, she had a good sense of humor, but yeah, no, I was, I was astonished that my, that I wasn't losing my mind because that is, that is probably one of the easier places to lose your mind when stuff like that happens.
Cause you're already, you're already doing something that you don't want to do.

(01:08:50):
Wait and travel and security.
And I paid an extra $150 for four pounds.
And, but right.
I mean, the food sucks because I have to, is it is a subway or do I eat a crappy $16 slice of pizza or, you know, so everything is, and then, then you have that and then you go on and then like, like I said, then you have parents with kids, put that on top of that situation.

(01:09:12):
Then you have, Oh my God, my car rental is going to be closed.
Oh, I have.
Yeah.
It's it's not great, but that's good though.
That you noticed that you did not go that route because you're going to need that because you're gonna have a lot more with a child.
I was, I was happy that that's what it was, but it does.
You lose a whole day and then you wake up, you still, it's not like you're going to then sleep until 10 30 the next day.

(01:09:33):
No.
So like for the two days, first two days we were there, we're catching up on you're trying to do as much as you can cause you lost.
Yeah.
Cause we lost time.
Now my brother at the same time, he's flying from Nashville.
Now our stuff was all stupidity.
Their stuff was, there was all that awful weather in the South.

(01:09:54):
Atlanta was shut down, right?
He had to fly from Nashville through Atlanta to Palm beach.
He thinking he was going to get ahead of it.
He thought I'm going to get on an earlier flight to try to get ahead of the weather, but he lives about 45 minutes, an hour from the airport.
So he gets a hotel room at the airport a night before moves his flight up to the morning and then proceeds to spend the entire day at the Nashville airport with his wife waiting to be told you could try again tomorrow and then has to go back.

(01:10:27):
He spent two nights in a hotel in the city where he lives and then ended up getting there a day later.
So everybody was kind of, I felt so bad.
My, my sister and her husband were there.
They, cause he, they got ahead of it.
They were in DC and they saw what was going on with the weather.
They got ahead of it and they also flew, they decided to fly to Fort Lauderdale and drive an hour.

(01:10:49):
But so they got like, but the one, the one fun thing on the, on the flight, they had movies, right?
So we're watching movies and, and Kelly's watching one of the Lord of the Rings movies.
Sure.
I've never, she loves those.
I've never, I've never watched them.
And uh, I know that red head that was crying probably watched a lot of that.

(01:11:09):
She probably, yes.
She probably has the little dialogue memorized, but at one point, you know, I got my headphones and I'm listening to something and Kelly, you know, kind of gets my attention and she has paused the movie and she's like, see this.
And there's a scene with, there's orcs and they're kind of like half underground and like moving around.

(01:11:32):
I see where this is going.
And, and she goes, this is what, that's just what it feels like.
And I said, this is fantastic.
And she said, well, why?
I'm like, now I'm literally going to be able to say, mommy used to call you a little orc and she's like, you can't say that.
I'm like, Oh, I'm going to, I'm like, this is it.
But that's her middle name.

(01:11:53):
Your mommy's little work.
So yeah, I got, I kind of got a kick out of that.
But anyway, all's well that ended while we got there.
Very nice.
I'm telling you, I do it for a living.
You do it a lot.
It is tough.
It's one of my worst parts of my job, but it's so needed in our jobs that we're always on the road.

(01:12:13):
And I'm telling you right now, as much as I hate being in a car, you feel like you have some kind of control.
I would rather, you know what I mean?
I know like I travel all over the, all over and I can't stand it.
But the worst thing I can tell you is when you have to travel and then the airport or the airlines or the whatever stops you from moving forward, you always think I should be in a car.

(01:12:42):
I, at least I know unless my car blows up, right.
I can continue driving.
My limit is five hours.
If I can drive, if I can drive it in five hours, I'll do it.
Yeah.
I would rather, because realistically, if you fly to New York from here, yeah, you're only 45 minutes in the air, but check-in check, checking in bag, whatever, going through security, all that stuff, you're in for four hours.

(01:13:06):
So I would much rather be in the car and be able to be on the phone and productive.
But yeah, no, it's, it's tough.
Yeah.
I just, it makes you, it makes you, it makes the whole process of let's go on vacation.
Every time I think of that whole, that airport and security, I try to make it as simple as possible.
I don't put anything on my carry on that they could even question.

(01:13:29):
It's like underwear, socks and two outfits.
And that's it.
I don't even know.
It's like maybe my, you know, whatever, some Tylenol, whatever thing.
And I don't wear a belt.
I don't wear, I don't want nothing happening.
Just get through it.
Cause I just can't stand it.
And then, and then you run into, even if you do the perfect things, you take that hotel, you go the night before I'm going to beat it.

(01:13:52):
And then you get there and go, Hey, guess what?
You're going to be here for two more days.
It doesn't matter.
And you just absolutely can't.
Yeah.
And I always, and to get back to the, to the theory of, I mean, to the podcast, we're doing this with kids.
Yeah.
People are doing this with kids.
And that's why when you end up seeing these people at the airport and they're just screaming at each other, they probably went through three, 13 hours before you even saw that.

(01:14:20):
Oh yeah.
Father, mother freaking out.
Just getting the kid to the, to the airport.
Exactly.
No, that it, it's definitely, this has been a travel podcast.
Yeah, it has been from Disney to the nice thing was it was good.
We had a good time when we were there.
The weather was nice.
Palm beach is very, very pretty.
We went to, we went to a very nice steakhouse called the Flagler flag, Flagler steakhouse.

(01:14:45):
Do you know who Flagler is?
He was a cowboy that had a beef farm.
No, no.
Flagler's big in Palm beach.
Flagler was the, and I don't remember his first name, but, and I didn't know, I didn't know this.
I looked it up.
Flagler was the, those, the founder of standard oil.
So he, he owns a bunch of stuff.

(01:15:06):
He was like the, uh, he was, uh, he owns a, there's a bunch of things like Flagler museum, Flagler all over Palm beach.
I think there's even a Flagler college somewhere in Florida, but this place called the Flagler steakhouse, very nice steakhouse.
We went there.
It was a great meal.
You see a bunch of people in Palm beach.

(01:15:27):
Obviously there's, you see never been, there's Ferraris everywhere.
I think my, my brother saw, they went to a shopping area like the Palm beach version of Rodeo drive.
Gotcha.
So a Bugatti Chiron, like all these cars, just crazy.
You would see every day in like Miami.
That's even Naples.
That's that kind of stuff.

(01:15:47):
You see all kinds of people that you think they're clearly are rich.
But then at one point, Kelly's like, she kind of nudges me.
She goes, that's Kathie Lee Gifford.
And I'm like, I'm like, really?
And I'm trying to look and there's this woman and I'm like, it could be.
And then she turned it.
Yeah.
So we saw, we had a Kathie Lee Gifford sighting.
I desperately wanted to run over and say, I loved you on name that tune and make her feel a hundred years old.

(01:16:12):
You remember she was on name that, not even what she's famous for, but you're going to say Dave that she was one.
Well, that was, she was the girl who's saying all the songs on name that she did when we were little, like that was when we were kids.
Yeah.
I don't even, I honestly, I probably didn't remember that until you just said it at one point.
Cause they would always show up, but obviously Regis and Kelly.
Yeah.
Well, and she was also, she would do, she was the one who would do the commercials for the cruise line.

(01:16:38):
Was it, was it carnival?
I think the carnival, I believe.
Yeah, that was it.
But yeah, so she was there, but she did not dine with us.
She's like almost 80.
She's gotta be in her seventies.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Her husband was like 95.
Frank Gifford.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she was like 20 years younger.
Yeah.
She was a lot younger.
But so we had a little celebrity sighting and this was every time you go to a steakhouse, there's always one guy at least that looks like, like Mr. Howell from the Gilligan's Island.

(01:17:05):
Like the Ascot.
There's always one old, really rich guy.
Right, right, right.
This place, there were three.
I'm like, there's another, there's three Howells here.
That's so it was very clearly a very nice, I love a good steakhouse.
It was a great meal.
Great, great meal.
We had a good time and that was it.
And, and that was the other kind of good news thing with traveling, even with traveling and, and eating out a little bit more.

(01:17:30):
Kelly's blood sugar measurements were all good throughout the term.
So that's all gone well.
And that's kind of where we're at with what just happened.
That was our week.
That's a big travel.
My, I was thinking you were going to have problems with cause you paid, you paid that a hundred and something dollars more for the bags.
You bring it up.
I'm very proud of this on the way back.

(01:17:52):
So we're packing to come home and we bought some stuff while we're there.
Right.
And, and I'm thinking, okay, I'm not, they're not going to get me again.
So I packed my, I have a little kid.
It's a carry on size that I always take with me, but we check it anyway.
So I, this thing looked like it was about to explode.
I crammed as much as I could into my bag.

(01:18:13):
I'm like, so this one will be okay.
The what, what do you think the weight was on the big bag?
54 on the 50 pound limit.
That was 54.
Again, I'm so bad at this.
You got it down to 49 pounds, 49.4. I was a half.
I was so proud.
I put it on there.
I back away and I was so excited and Kelly couldn't see the weight.

(01:18:36):
I'm like, guess what it is.
She's like, I don't know.
45, 49.
I'm going to tell you, I was so excited.
I'm going to take it.
This is like the number one thing in our house.
How much does it weigh?
How much does it weigh to scale?
It's always the thing.
Do you have a bag?
No, we have a scale.
We have a regular scale on the side and it's perfect.

(01:18:58):
It never, it's a digital scale and we put it on there and maybe we're off by 0.1, you know, zero five, nothing that's going to do anything.
Right.
But it's every time we go somewhere, get the scale.
I don't know how much, how much is the thing.
And you're getting your money's worth.

(01:19:19):
Right.
So I know, I know when we go to the airport, it could be off maybe a half a pound, maybe a pound and it's never at 49.
Right.
You walk up very confident.
You're good.
Very confident.
So my wife and I, last time we were somewhere, we went up front and we're always going on vacation.
It starts off very cheerful.
Hey, good morning.
Right.

(01:19:40):
Cause you haven't even gone through security yet.
You haven't gone through anything yet.
You still have that beautiful feeling of vacation and we're like, what's going on?
The guy was really nice.
Hey, what's going on guys?
IDs.
And he goes, just put that right up there.
I go, no problem.
Cause in my head, I know it's 38 pounds or whatever it was.
There's no tension.
So we put it up there and we put my wife's out there and boom, you know, 36 pounds got you.

(01:20:07):
You can't get us.
And I put mine up there.
Mine was a little bit bigger but still was probably 40 pounds.
And I look, I put it on there.
I see 40, 45, 50, 63.
I go, Oh my God, I'm freaking out.
And the guy has his foot on the way and him and my wife know, cause she caught it.

(01:20:32):
I'm looking, I'm looking not at his foot, but I'm looking at the scale digital number, right?
And I'm like 38, 45, 50, 63.
What the hell's going on here?
That's awesome.
So that was, that was, that was, it's nice when they're, it's nice when the people that are working along with you, they're having a little fun laughing.

(01:20:53):
He's like, Oh my God, your face.
I go, Oh my God.
I'm like, what the hell did we just do from the house?
Somebody stuffed a new bag.
That's funny.
So yeah.
So that happens as well.
But yes, you have to get in that point of, I mean, it's 104 pounds, 140, 150, 150 bucks.
It's criminal.

(01:21:13):
It's awful.
It really is.
It doesn't even creep up like 20 pounds every five pounds.
No, it's $155.
It's a pound over.
Well, yeah.
Sorry.
Move it.
It's yeah.
It's, but you're a better man than me.
I would have stopped everything.
I don't know if that makes me better.
I think it makes me shy.
I'm like, sure.

(01:21:34):
I'm just going to root around in my underwear to figure out.
I would have said, yeah, I would have showed him like this.
See, it's got a hole.
It's like, it's like a, that, that, that joke.
I'm on a scalpel.
He says, Oh, you need to take out four pounds.
How much is four pounds?
I don't know.
Underwear.
Right.
Four pounds.
What is it?
Yep.

(01:21:54):
Yeah.
So no, not experimenting.
Yeah.
But that's okay.
Yeah.
You won't do it again though.
Oh no.
I'll never, I, like I said, most of the time it's never been a problem, but it's okay.
Especially when the other one's like 28 pounds.
Oh, that's what made me, that's the part that killed me.
Yeah.
I like come and just scrap them together and been telling me how much they weigh.

(01:22:16):
So anyway, it is what it is, but this was a different podcast.
It was a little bit different.
We will vacation week.
Yeah.
Makes it a little different, but, and, and soon you'll be doing all this with a child.
So this is a plea to you, Disney.
We could, I mean, you already have a guy who's speaking so highly about your company.
I am 40.

(01:22:36):
You even give them a dime.
Play.
I am a platinum cast away club member.
That's it.
Well, if they want to give things our way, I could become a Disney fan, but anyway, thank you for making it all the way to the end with us and we will see you next time.
Well, folks, that's another episode of the gray hair daycare podcast in the books.

(01:22:56):
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