November 26, 2024 • 55 mins
In this episode of The Gray Hair & Daycare Podcast, Frank and Carlo discuss the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday and their family traditions. Frank talks about his love of cooking big holiday dinners and his preference for following recipes from the Food Network. They also discuss the importance of building memories at home with family during the holidays.
Frank also gives an update on his "diaper diet" and his goal to lose more weight than his wife Kelly gains during her pregnancy. He also talks about the first time he felt his baby kick and how excited he is for the arrival of his daughter.
Other topics covered in this episode include:
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Kelly's newfound love of leggings
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Her improved appetite and pregnancy cravings
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The first real kick
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Grandparent names
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What Frank wants to be called as a dad
Overall, this episode is a lighthearted and informative discussion about the joys and challenges of parenthood.
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(00:12):
This is the Gray Hair and Day Care Podcast.
With a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range, your hosts Frank Sirio and Carlo Russo.
So it's good to be back.
We are back.
This is, I keep wondering every time I say we're back, I wonder if there's anybody who's still out there and I'm hoping there are, but welcome back.
(00:39):
As you may or may not know, I am Frank Sirio.
I'm 55 years old.
My wife is now 22 weeks pregnant.
22.
And I'm here with my friend Carlo Russo.
Hello.
Thank you for having me again for episode five.
We've made it to five.
Almost turkey day.
That's right.
It's good for you, for me, it's not, but it will be.
(01:03):
It will be.
Now we're very grateful and thankful this year.
Yes.
Oh my God.
There's lots to be thankful for.
Lots to be thankful for.
True.
So I noticed a couple of things.
Okay.
I don't know if the viewers are now watching this, but their video has been up for episode four, was it?
Episode four was actually, we were largely successful.
(01:26):
The main camera, the new camera did beautifully.
Love the new camera.
Until the battery ran out.
So this time I have a power cord and we're hoping we're going to get a full coverage on the two shots.
What we had looked great.
Unfortunately, I look like I was picking up garbage.
I look like a garbage man.
(01:47):
I was wearing old clothes.
I have to step it up.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Not that this is a suit that I'm wearing, but now I realized, first of all, yes, there's a pillow behind me because I'm a small man.
And it looked like my feet were just dangling off this chair.
I didn't know.
I didn't like that.
Never let anyone tell you you're a small man.
(02:08):
To me, you were always beautiful.
I edited the whole thing.
I never once thought, wow, he looks like a hobo.
I looked at it going, okay, we're on video now.
We have to at least do our hair.
Well, in the first one of the first times we had video, I have a set of headphones that I'm checking the audio with.
(02:30):
And I had this, this like a cockatiel bird.
And I think Carlo tried to warn me.
I was like, keep going.
So hopefully we had video problems.
Yes.
I still use some of the video because there was some good stuff there.
So that's what I've noticed.
So I'm excited that we up on video and I'm sure you'll talk about where they can see that down the line and all that good stuff.
(02:54):
So, so while we're here and we're in the studio and I think everything's working.
Oh, let's hope, let's hope.
So we are in week 22.
And so the first thing we always talk about is the state of the baby.
So now my, my little girl is the size of a large mango, which I think is always make me hungry with these sizes.
(03:15):
Last week you said something about squash and then now it's mango.
And it's like, I don't know, sizes of mango, but that's whatever it is.
What I think is interesting now is her hearing is improving and she can now learn sounds that she will recognize after she is born.
(03:40):
Okay.
So something that was fun, Kelly and I went to a concert last night.
Oh, you did?
There was a, yeah, there was a concert.
And this is one that will make me seem even older than I, than I am in our video show or sound.
We went to see the Glenn Miller Orchestra.
(04:01):
Wow.
Which is how old are you?
So the question is how old are they?
Oh yeah.
Remember Glenn Miller was World War II, 1939.
The band was founded.
They have, they have been a continuous band for 89 years.
They're not like Minuto where they have when they switch people out.
(04:22):
They have to be a hundred and seven peacemakers and on IVs.
No, it was, but it was, it was a, it was a great show.
Incredibly talented musicians.
And Kelly afterwards, well, either she didn't, either she thought it was too loud or she really liked it.
And I'm like, I'm going now if she favors Kelly, it would be that's too loud.
(04:45):
Right.
Again, Princess and the Pea.
If she favors me and my, my musical tastes, I I'm going to go with, I think she really enjoyed it.
And not loud enough.
So we've established and I like it that they opened and closed, they opened and closed the show with the same song, which happens to be one of my mother's, I think was my mother's favorite song, Moonlight Serenade.
(05:08):
Nice.
And it was that, that was the song.
I'm hoping there's a little bit of that got through, through, through the, through the sweater.
And I mean, Kelly has, Kelly can sing.
She has a beautiful voice and I always, I always tease her when I, when we've sung things together that she had, I always have to remind her she's not in church.
(05:29):
She has perfect diction.
She sang in the, I think she sang in a choir, but yeah, she has a beautiful voice.
So I'm going to believe that the child is going to have some, some talents there.
I would hope.
The ear, you know, maybe listening to music or picking it up singing wise, you sing, play instruments.
So that's a good thing that your child was moving.
Obviously that's what I'm assuming.
(05:50):
She was moving around.
Yeah.
She was doing a little cha-cha.
It was, it was good.
So yeah.
So that was fun.
So that, that kind of falls into what you want to start doing with your child now that she can hear is the lullabies, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've, I've done some work.
I have not finalized a recording yet, but I've started work on what will be the first one.
Nice.
(06:10):
And hope that very soon in the, certainly in the, hopefully in the next couple of episodes, we will be able to start one by one introducing and there's what's nice is the more I do it, I keep finding more.
So the list is growing and you're going down the road, but I'm practicing, you know, I'm practicing a few and it's everything from Harry Connick Jr. to Elvis to Sinatra, all kinds of fun, fun options.
(06:36):
So I'm looking forward to doing that.
That's, that's all.
So yeah, I'm looking forward to doing all those.
22, the baby can hear.
Yeah.
And we'll recognize things later.
That's what's really cool.
That's it.
So now every night, right as Kelly falls asleep, I get right up next to her belly and go, daddy is the favorite.
(06:57):
Over and over again.
Daddy, daddy is the favorite.
That's a great idea.
So yeah, no, it is.
That's an exciting thing.
There is something there that like idea that now there's a little person in there that's going to remember that is going to recognize things that she's hearing now is, is really a cool idea.
(07:20):
So that's cool.
That's, that's awesome.
Cause when I went through, well, when my wife went through her pregnancy, we both go through it.
I didn't have all these details.
Um, I didn't, I had no idea week 10 and week 13 and 20.
And so that's kind of neat learning about it now with you.
That's cool.
It definitely, it enhances the experience.
Otherwise you're just like, okay, what's for dinner.
(07:43):
That's a, which we'll talk about later on that there's been some changes with, with diet.
Uh, but anyhow, so the other thing I, I would like to talk about since this is coming out, this will come out two days before Thanksgiving.
And that is one of the, I, I love all holidays.
You do.
Christmas is probably the biggest one, but for people who don't know, Frank is a great cook.
(08:07):
He loves cooking.
You love hosting.
I do.
Yes.
And it's, it's interesting.
Like I don't cook.
Well, I cook sometimes like I cook dinner, but I love to do big holiday dinners.
It's a fun challenge, but I will say I am not, I'm just now getting to the point after years of doing stuff like that, where I will experiment and cook.
(08:29):
But when I started in for a long time and still now for an important dinner, I go to the food network.com.
I find a recipe and I follow the recipe, but I do, I enjoy it very much.
But so what are the, you know, what are the things, what are the family traditions for you for Thanksgiving?
Cause I know for Italians, it's a little bit different.
(08:51):
Like we never like my dad always referred, I think pasta stuff, uh, to Turkey.
So there was a, there was a Turkey, but it was like, and there's the, and there's the Turkey.
Turkey is just for looks.
I mean, I guess we gotta do the Turkey.
Yeah.
I was probably more like growing up like your dad, probably had the pasta, the, the, um, the Turkey had to be there, but I believe we also had ham.
(09:17):
My dad didn't like ham, so we never had ham.
Okay.
So we, more people liked ham than Turkey.
So we did the pastas and the Italian sides and stuff.
But as we got older and obviously now that I'm married and had kids, we do the traditional, there's the Turkey, the stuffing, the, you know, all the good stuff, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes.
(09:39):
Uh, so we do that and I enjoy, I'm not a huge Turkey person anyways.
I'm not that, I'm not a fan of that, but I understand that, you know, especially when you have in-laws and they grew up with that tradition, I don't want to walk in there and go, where's the lasagna?
Where's the stuffed shells?
That's true.
Um, so I kind of, uh, you know, embraced it.
(09:59):
So that's, so my mom always, holiday dinner, she would always make, she called it minestrone, but what it really is known more about is wedding soup, the little meatballs and chicken broth.
And it was, but that's a lot of work.
Like that's a lot of making a little meatballs, all that stuff.
But we always did that stuff.
And was Thanksgiving a football thing for, well, I know what it is for you.
(10:23):
Right.
Was that a thing though?
Kids are like, did your dad or your family?
So my father never got into the American sports.
Uh, obviously soccer wasn't, is always will be number one in his heart.
So football was always on even growing up, but I don't think anyone, maybe one cousin or maybe one in-law was watching it.
(10:50):
And all of us would be just like kind of running around and really didn't get into the whole thing until little later, but it was always on it.
What I think is funny is, so my, my mom's side of the family, the Rucoli side, as you often do on Sundays, we would go visit.
Most of the time we'd go to my grandmother's, but sometimes we'd go to an aunt or uncle or something.
(11:11):
And I remember one time we were so disconnected from anything with sports.
We showed up at my, my uncle Frank and aunt Shirley's house and they're huge sports fans, sports fans.
And we knock on the door and they come to the door and they're like clearly confused.
And we had just showed up in the middle of the Superbowl.
Oh my God.
(11:31):
No, I didn't.
We're like, come on, shut up.
Like it was, it was comical.
No idea.
That was the sports.
It was racing or boxing, but, but none of the, none of that, the typical stuff, the holidays.
But for me growing up too, it was because my siblings were so much older.
I think I have such an affinity for the holidays because my siblings were all, by the time I was in kindergarten, my siblings were all moved away.
(12:01):
They were in college or off doing their own thing.
So that was the one time a year they came home was Thanksgiving and Christmas.
So I, I loved that time.
And it makes me think about siblings and, you know, where this is a miracle that we're, that we're having, that we're going to have our baby and thinking about, it would be nice to have that sibling interaction.
(12:25):
I would love to have a second one, but we'll, we'll see how that all goes.
It does make me think the other thing that I think about when it comes to Thanksgiving or holidays in general and a, and a child is that this is going to be like one of the last holidays where I will go anywhere at all.
Like in my mind, like, I think once I have a kid, holidays, holidays are at my house.
(12:49):
I want the memories to be here.
I want that.
You're building it here.
And that, so I apologize unreservedly to my family.
You are coming to my house or that's it.
And you're going to have to see pictures of the food and you know what you're missing.
Right.
But that, you know, I do, I do think, and I probably won't be able to pull that off.
But we'll have to.
I know, but it's nice to build that memories in the house with the trees and opening.
(13:14):
We, we still do.
We, we have such, it's such a great time on the holidays, but you know, Christmas, obviously with the gifts that the kids, even though they're 18 and 23, they'll still come over.
They'll still, you know, all have their hot cocoa and we'll, we'll go in the, in the, the den and we'll have the tree on the fire will be on and we'll open up our gifts and they turn into three-year-olds again.
(13:38):
That's awesome.
It's awesome.
You're going to love that.
You're going to always think of that.
But that made something that you said kind of made me think of this question when you were in kindergarten, you're old about five years old, six, sometimes when you, when you saw your, your siblings coming over, did you see them as an adults?
Did you see them as, because when I look at my, my brothers, I thought they were, were basically the same age.
(14:03):
So I didn't think, but were you looking at them like, oh, these are adults or how did you?
Yeah.
I mean, so the closest to me is my sister, Lucille, who's about 13 years older than me, which is a chunk of my brother's 19.
So, you know, I didn't even have any memory of my brother living at home.
(14:23):
Right.
He was gone.
He graduated from SU and he moved away.
I think I saw, I think I saw them as, I didn't see them as peers as I got much older.
Then I think I kind of established a more typical sibling relationship, but no, I think I saw them all as extra parents that had more energy and more fun than my parents.
(14:48):
Yeah.
Cause again, you didn't build that sibling development because they weren't home.
No.
I think what was interesting was later on.
So my sister Lucille had my nephew when I was 10.
Yeah.
So by the time I got my license, he was six.
Yeah.
And I always felt like he was my nephew because I was so much littler.
(15:11):
But what was interesting was when I got my, he didn't like, he had come to visit with my sister and I was going to drive and he was freaking out because he clearly in his world thought of me as another child.
Like, it was like, you're just a, you're just a big kid.
You shouldn't be in charge of a vehicle.
Why are you driving?
(15:31):
Isn't that funny how, yeah, you get kind of.
The perception is very different, but.
But the holidays.
Yeah.
The holidays, you got to keep those memories, build them at the house.
And I think that's, that's, you're going to love that.
I think it's going to be fun.
This year is going to be interesting because my brother, he's been retired for many years and he, because he's constantly being reminded by his financial advisors that he has to spend some of his retirement, right.
(15:56):
That he's, he basically feels like according to the actuarial tables, he's going to die at any moment, even though he's incredibly healthy.
No, like he's just like, he's going to live 20 years, but, but he's felt very compelled.
He wanted everybody to come to his place in Nashville.
So my sister and her husband and Kelly and I, and my sister from Texas are all going to, are all going to Nashville for Thanksgiving for this Thanksgiving.
(16:23):
Yeah.
So we're going to, we're going to go there and that's awesome.
It is.
Yeah.
That's going to be fun.
We're looking forward to it.
But just yesterday there's a, but in the now, not in this timeline, but just yesterday in our timeline, we've got kind of a late night text and we're still like, this is still early November for us.
Right.
(16:44):
I got a mandate from my brother that we are not allowed to discuss politics at all throughout, throughout the visit.
I like that.
I like that request.
You think you see, you think that's good.
I do because unless everyone's on board, right.
(17:04):
And generally that doesn't happen in a family because people have opinions and, and, and everybody's opinion is great.
And as if that's not the case and everybody's not on the same, then there's nothing you're going to change in the living room.
That's going to make or break, you know what I mean?
It's going to fix politics.
You're not figuring it out.
(17:26):
Yeah.
Putting it on the table and have fun with the people there.
I agree with that.
I think so.
It's interesting because I think about it and initially I'm like, yeah, like, well, no, no, not at all.
I, I, I, I immediately was, he, he wrote this kind of flowery like text message.
And the first thing I said was, this is obviously done by Chad GPT, but there's no way.
(17:50):
But, and I think there might have been a, he might've had a little hop, but no, immediately I'm like, sure, whatever, you know, but I did think for a minute there, like, this is kind of what is bad.
Right.
Cause if you, if you just say, we're not going to talk about it, everybody knows they could all ever, I could predict what each person in, in that house, I'm going to say, like, I've talked to my brother a lot about politics and I think we're, we're largely aligned, but you know, I know what everybody thinks, but you're just not going to talk about it.
(18:20):
Why they, we should be able to talk about, I, in a way, part of me thinks we should be able to talk about that and still care about each other.
But I do also know I have been told repeatedly by people that I work with and people that I love that I have a tendency to say things as if, and I could be thinking about something that I, this is just an idea.
(18:47):
I am not sold on it.
I am just, this is what I think about this.
And I could be very malleable, right?
I might, I might change my mind or not, but I will sound like I am telling you something that is an incontrovertible truth and that you better not, but I can't, it's just the way, it's the way I present myself, because I think I grew up in a house where it was like a crucible of verbal combat, right?
(19:14):
So I get it.
It probably is.
He's probably right in his advanced years.
He's wise and he doesn't want us to do that.
Think about this.
People fight and have killed each other over Yankees, Red Sox.
Yes.
You don't think politics might get a little heated?
Might get a little heated.
That's it.
Well, that's interesting.
(19:34):
Yeah.
It's cool.
Nashville.
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
I'm looking forward.
Nashville is a great city.
You've been.
It's a great city.
So that's Thanksgiving stuff that you guys hopefully will enjoy.
Happy Thanksgiving.
So the first segment of this is this is going to be a first time for us.
(19:55):
We did a bunch of segments in the last episode, but this segment is the diaper diet.
So again, now that you have video, you can see the corpulent man that I am and I.
You look wonderful.
Thank you so much.
So my wife, Kelly, obviously is a kind of a tall and thin and has a normal relationship with food.
(20:19):
And then there's me, but I, in an encouragement for her and wanting to be more healthy myself, I thought it would be fun to try to track with Kelly's weight gain that we make it a contest and that as she gains weight.
She gained.
I try to lose more than she gains.
(20:41):
Wow.
And then once she peaks and we have the baby, then I'll keep up with her as she loses again because she's going to she's got it under control.
So right now.
Don't say this in front of that doctor that you asked the question.
Don't talk about your diet.
I can't wait to go back.
(21:03):
Episode two or three was.
Yeah, that was not good.
So we've got that.
So right now I'm not and I'm not going to share what my actual weight or hers is.
Right.
But right now, as from baseline, Kelly has gained 12.2 pounds.
Wow.
So now she's got a little belly.
I was going to say.
(21:23):
It's so cute.
That's 12 pounds on her belly.
Yeah.
Look at the brains on Brett.
It's impressive.
So again, so now she's showing a little bit of it.
So she is up 12.2. I am only down 11.
So she is winning by 1.2 pounds.
You lost 11.
(21:44):
I've lost 11 pounds so far.
God bless you.
Well, I could do I'm sure I could do better.
It's good.
But yeah, no, it's been steady.
Like, and honestly, I'm trying to just it's been get up in the morning.
I do a little warm up and some stretches.
When Kelly drives to work, I do it takes her drive is about 20 minutes and talk during the drive.
(22:04):
OK, I come down and I either do the rowing machine or I do some time on the bike.
Nice.
And then I try three days a week to do some kind of resistance training, kettlebell workout or or something, you know, some weights or.
I resist myself to go to the gym.
Yeah, right.
It's been good.
I feel better and I think that's been helping.
(22:26):
And then I've been also trying to do a little bit of intermittent fasting.
So yes, I have coffee in the morning, but I don't I don't eat anything until lunchtime.
So noon, I'll have something.
Been down that road.
Yeah.
The black coffee.
I've always drank black coffee.
I never put anything in.
So that is the diaper diet update.
I got some work to do.
(22:47):
I think from here, I don't know exactly how the weight gain will work for Kelly.
I think I've got a chance to catch up maybe in the next couple of weeks.
Yeah, I don't know because she's not just packing it on.
So we'll see how that goes.
That's good.
I mean, I'm sorry that I looked very shocked.
You lost 11?
I mean, after I said that, this is why this is why I said it, not because I'm a jerk like the doctor thought you were, because Frank has everything written down now.
(23:17):
We're very professional here.
And I saw a number.
I saw what you would.
The difference was one point.
One point two.
That's what I thought you lost.
Oh, OK.
So when you said 11, I'm like, wait a minute, you lost 11.
So that's why I said that, not because he doesn't look like he lost 11.
He was he was tricked.
So we have our little scripts.
I have some notes that we that we refer to.
(23:38):
And I put I put bad data on Carlos stuff all the time.
He'll be confused throughout throughout the podcast.
I read it wrong.
So it was that's why when you said 11, I was thinking of one point one.
That's OK.
So that was good.
I don't think I look I don't I don't think I was 11.
But no, so that's so that is the diaper diet.
And then now the the next segment is going to be another installment.
(24:02):
So number two, everybody's favorite book report.
So not surprisingly, this is another dog book.
But the this week's book report is on tell your dog you're pregnant.
An essential guide for dog owners who are expecting a baby.
(24:24):
Now, these are the same dogs that attack me every time I walk in with love, loving kisses.
See, I tell I tell my dogs that you are delicious and they try and they try to find that out.
So, again, tell your dog you're pregnant.
An essential guide for dog owners who are expecting a baby picture on the front.
It's by Dr. Lewis Kirkham, again, available on his work.
(24:47):
And yes, he's a brilliant man.
The only thing I'll say about this one, I really like the first book, the one we did last episode.
This one's OK, too, but it's kind of almost the same content, a little bit less structured and on point with do this, do this, do this, like step by step.
This one isn't a step by step, but this one comes with a link.
(25:08):
And I do think this is a good idea.
And we haven't started using it yet.
Comes to a link and it includes a downloadable 13 tracks of baby and toy noises.
OK, that you can play in the background and get the dogs used to the baby sounds.
And I do think that's a good idea because that's something that my dogs absolutely are.
(25:33):
They they respond diligently and and very quickly to any sound.
They know the sound of like the ring doorbell, the motion sensors, anything that happens that my phone has an alert.
They know and they're like it's bad because sometimes like the text alert on my phone is the same as a motion alert in the driveway.
(25:56):
And so now if I get a text, they think somebody's here and they're like jumping over the couch to get to the door.
That's hilarious.
So I do think this this will be good.
We'll use that to at the very least to kind of expose them to baby sounds.
Right.
And get them used to it because.
Will there be babies crying?
Would that be something that you want that to be?
(26:17):
Babies crying, little cooing, playing sounds, all that.
That's a great idea.
I think that is a good idea.
That's a great idea.
That makes this one worthwhile, I think.
So again, I would give it maybe, you know, the other one we gave four rattles.
I'll give three and a half rattles to this one only because of the download, the sound, the baby sounds.
If you don't have a baby that you can already scare the dogs with, here's your ticket.
(26:42):
So four and a half, three and a half rattles.
Three and a half rattles.
Because of downloads.
Because of the downloadable soundtrack of baby noises.
I like that.
Tell your dog you're pregnant.
An essential guide for dog owners who are expecting a baby.
Dr. Lewis Kirkham.
And they can find this Amazon.
It's on Amazon.
You can find it everywhere.
This one I think is actually published.
(27:02):
I think it's an Australian publisher.
Yeah.
So that is that is it for the book report.
And now it's time for us to take a little break.
All right.
So here we are and we are about to go into our final segment.
Final segment.
What just happened.
(27:26):
So the events of the last week, there's been some interesting updates here and there.
The fun one just kind of passing thing is now for Kelly, leggings are a thing.
Kelly never has been a leggings girl and do that and wear them.
Yeah.
But now they're comfortable and they're.
(27:48):
Stretchy.
They're stretchy.
So she has embraced leggings.
And I think they look good.
Probably look great.
Yeah, they look good.
Tall and thin.
So yeah.
So maybe that'll continue afterwards.
I was going to say, do you think that'll come into her regular wear?
Not to imply at all that my lovely wife is overly consistent.
(28:11):
But I don't think so.
I think she'll go right back.
She's going right back.
There's something about this.
And it makes me think about after we were together.
So when we first started dating, maybe months in, by the time we were getting serious, we were having a conversation and Kelly was telling me the story that she was talking to a therapist and has found it very beneficial over the years, as many people do.
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And, and she, she's having a conversation when we first met.
Okay.
About how she wasn't sure how she felt about the fact that she was dating a man who wore a hoodie.
I'm sorry.
I didn't expect that.
I would.
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I'm serious.
She must hate me.
It's all I wear.
She says this, she says this.
And I'm like, what?
Wow.
And she's like, well, you know, you wore, you used to wear that hoodie.
And now, and what you, and I don't wear a lot of hoodie, but I had this, it was a black and Eddie Bauer hoodie.
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You know, like it was nice enough.
I didn't wear it all the time.
Like we weren't going to the symphony wearing the hoodie, but I just, I couldn't help but laugh.
That's great.
And I'm like, I'm glad through therapy, you were able to work through your concerns about, but in fairness, as you, as you do early on in a relationship, you talk about the foibles of who else you have dated and all that.
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And I'm like, so, you know, how have you, you know, how, how has dating been with you?
And she was dating like pilots, professors, like multiple college professors, academics, doctors, like attorneys.
So I'm sure.
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And then it comes to me, she's like, what do you do for, what did you do to work today?
I fixed a dragon.
Like she had, that was the other, she had no idea what I did for a living.
Cause I would say like, what did you do today?
Well, I worked on, I worked on some, you know, financial modeling.
Oh, what'd you do today?
Well, you know, the, the castle door was stuck.
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I watched Carlo crawling through the castle door because some kid got stuck there the other day.
No, I didn't.
She had no idea.
So beyond having no understanding of what I did for a living, she also was a little concerned with my wardrobe.
So in short, that would be my, my reasoning for thinking leggings will likely be retired sometime very soon after the birth of our daughter.
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I cannot believe I've never heard that story.
That is so great.
Imagine the doctor on the other end going, okay, she's going to tell me something really big that he's wearing or doing.
She comes out with the hoodie and the doctor has to sit there and go, that's valid.
Yes.
That's well without laughing.
That's I'll listen to whatever you want for $250 an hour.
I'll listen to everything.
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I'll burn your hoodie.
So that hoodie got to the point where it was done.
It was going to get retired.
I was like, well, you know, we can donate and I'm anyway.
And of course, then I bring it up.
Anyway, this is almost cost me my marriage.
And immediately Kelly's like, well, no, we can kiss.
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So it's, it's here somewhere, like in a tote, like it'll never get.
Isn't that funny?
When people, when they see what they think and you like that to you, it's like, that's not a, that wasn't a problem.
That's not a, that's so my wife does the same thing.
Cause okay.
I get home and I'll put on my shorts and I hate having anything heavy.
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It could be winter.
I have shorts and I'm also sure I don't care, but you get stuck in this routine and you wear the same comfortable shorts and shirt.
And my wife would be like, Oh, I noticed that you have your uniform on.
There's your uniform.
And I just like, well, what's the problem?
And I, you know, you realize like, yeah, she comes home from work and all she sees me in is this shorts.
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And so I get it.
It's true.
Yeah.
I think that's a guy thing too.
There's something it's utilitarian.
Yeah.
It's like all through world war two, Churchill war, like a jumpsuit, right?
The same jumpsuit every day.
Cause he doesn't want, you know, when you're trying to save the free world, you don't need to worry about what color shirt you're not worrying about.
Yeah.
But not that I'm not that either of us are saving the free world.
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No, but yeah.
So, so the leggings are leggings, leggings are a thing.
Leggings will likely not be a thing forever.
But this, this, she mentioned how comfortable I mean, sometimes you just, cause listen, she might go from this, obviously the pregnancy, but afterwards, she's still going to be tired, not want to put clothes on her body.
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So the leggings might stick around.
Yeah.
That's true.
Stick around for a while.
She is a big fan of layers.
She's always cold.
So she, I think the leggings, they might stay around, but if I had, if I under three pair of pants, yeah.
Leggings under jeans, under sweats, under a robe, maybe.
But that's a, that's a, so, so that the leggings are, the leggings are here to stay for a while.
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Yes.
So the other update, which I'm very excited about is her appetite is vastly improved.
Cause we talked about this problem a couple of.
It was concerning, but she's eaten much better.
Definitely.
You know, I was teasing her a little bit about it.
And then she told me like what she ate at work.
Cause really at home, she has, she has breakfast before she goes to work.
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And then dinner time, I don't feel like she's eating a lot, but then compared to what I know she used to eat at work, she's bringing snacks, she's having stuff and she's eating more at dinner time, which I feel, I feel a lot better about.
And I think what that led to was there was actually two now, cause one happened earlier
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today, but the first real, I think pregnancy craving that she has had, cause she has had,
she's had some aversion or things that she liked, but this time the other day she had
had breakfast and have a coffee where, you know, having some coffee and, and all of a
sudden she's like, I want beans on toast and sausages after breakfast.
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Like it was an hour after she had a good breakfast and she, and I'm like, okay, this is great.
So you have to go to like to England.
She whipped it right up for herself.
So she had beans on, beans on toast and, and little breakfast sausages and happy as a clam.
And I'm like, so baked beans.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, you guys had breakfast already.
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She had already had breakfast and yeah.
So second breakfast, beans on toast.
Has she ever had that prior to pregnancy?
No, never, never.
Not only has she not said it, never mentioned it, never nothing.
It wasn't.
No.
I mean, when we were in London, we had like a couple, a couple of places we had a traditional bangers and mash traditional breakfast.
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But, but no, she'd never mentioned it.
Never mentioned it before.
She has this thing now that she's been having for breakfast.
I don't know if you've ever heard of this.
It's a cereal called Weetabix.
You ever heard of this?
Does anybody?
I don't think so, but.
Are oftentimes my wife will say things and I will say only, you know, that word or only, you know, that thing or that television show.
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And most of it, she is kind of an Anglophile.
Like she likes British stuff.
And I think Weetabix might be that, but it's something from there, from her childhood that she used to have.
It looks like, like, I don't know, wheat based disappointment.
Like it does not look good.
It's like, it makes, it makes shredded wheat look exciting.
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That's all I'm thinking of is shredded wheat.
It's something like, it's something like that.
And so she has, you know, she has.
She wants, she has craving in it.
She's been having that for breakfast.
So she had already had that.
And then an hour later, she wanted the beans on toast and the sausages, which is good.
And then I got a text message randomly today from her.
Get more beans!
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No, it was, I want, it was, I want a grilled cheese.
And I'm like, all right, can't, can't bring you the grilled cheese, but I'm glad, like, so we've had two official cravings, beans on toast and breakfast sausages and now a grilled cheese, grilled cheese.
So yeah.
And now we have, we have some leggings.
So her heartburn and stuff like that has been much, much better.
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So yeah, that makes it gone up.
Yeah.
She had the ice cream and you know, the only cravings have been those we just talked about.
And she's not a sweet person now.
No, no ice cream.
Cookies, stuff like that.
She has like Christmas time.
There's a couple of cookies she will make.
And then she'll have those.
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She also, for some reason, she insists on making, does anybody in your family make a rum cake?
No, but I love it.
Really?
I love it.
Like with the, with the green and red cherries in it, like.
Whatever rum cake is.
Fruit cake.
Oh, fruit cake.
Not rum cake.
You said rum cake.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
No, fruit cake.
I don't know what the hell that is.
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And it's not easy to make.
Like you, first of all, what I don't like is it's got like, she gets the candied cherries.
Dried.
That are green.
I know what you're talking about.
And red.
And so they look like Star Trek food.
Yeah, yeah.
First of all, that's in there.
And then you have to soak this thing in rum.
Yep.
For a long time or in whatever it is.
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Not a, no, it's not rum.
It's a cognac.
Really?
Something like that.
Something strong.
With a strong odor.
I don't know what it is.
I guess I've never had it.
It's.
Because the look of it.
It is.
And I think she thinks I'm just being mean.
But it is one of the, you know, I love to eat everything.
I love sweets.
It is the most repellent thing.
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I can't stand to look at it.
And then because she's the only one who eats it.
And she doesn't really eat sweets often.
It lives.
It lives in the fridge out in the garage for months.
All right.
So I have to remember.
This is a Christmas thing or?
It is a Christmas thing.
When we're, when I'm here, I will take it.
I will taste it.
Because I don't know if I had that ever.
Her family all loves it.
Like they all, they all think it's great.
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I mean, in my mind, the only thing ever with.
With that fruitcake is the thing that you give to people.
And then they just give it to someone else.
Yeah, they'll re-gift it.
Yeah, they re-gift it.
Because nobody wants it.
That's what I'm thinking of.
So this is not that.
So I don't know, but.
I'll taste it this year.
Okay.
She would, she will be enthusiastic.
I'm going to do it on the podcast, actually.
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Okay.
We'll just show everybody what we're talking about.
If she makes it this year, or there might still be some from last year.
I'll check the, I'll check the fridge.
If it's in liquor, it's probably still good.
Oh, it's preserved.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
But so the.
That's fine.
I think the most significant thing that has happened in the last week though.
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Because there has been a lot more movement.
Kelly has been telling me, you know, I'm a healer.
But it's kind of, and so she has suggested the other day when we're watching TV.
Just keep your hand on, keep your hand on my belly.
Okay.
Rest it there.
So she like put it right there a little bit low.
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And I got to feel the first kick, the first movement.
And that was, that was pretty.
That's awesome.
It was very neat.
I was, I didn't get choked up.
I was going to say you had to have teared up, no?
No, I got excited.
It was like.
All right.
It was just, it was such a fun experience.
And it just adds, you know, it's this new, you know, you know, she's in there.
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Isn't that crazy?
It is.
I know we're not saying anything that nobody's ever said.
But there's a human and another human.
And it's like you're growing this person.
Yeah.
It's so cool.
Like you're her house.
You're her house right now.
That's why they love mommy so much.
You're her first apartment.
That was, it's yeah, no, it was a nice moment.
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But it was an, it was an exciting, it was a Christmas morning moment.
Yeah.
And there were, I just, I was excited.
Yeah.
That's neat.
When you, like I said, we were talking about hearing the heartbeat for the first time.
Yeah.
Now you're, you're actually getting hit.
Yeah.
You can feel, there's, there's, there's a little somebody in there.
So anyway, so this, that, that was all fun stuff.
(40:48):
Feeling the first kick.
Sure.
I'm looking forward to now I'll be like, you know, if I wake up in the middle of the night, I'll be like.
Yeah.
And it's just going to get more and more.
Yeah.
The crazy thing was when you can actually see.
Oh yeah.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
You can actually see the foot.
I want to see the feet.
And that is the craziest vision.
You're looking at your wife's belly area and you see a foot or two.
(41:11):
You see somebody waving at you.
Or you see a hand moving.
And then when they, when they're leaning a certain way, it's got to be uncomfortable for them.
I think that I will probably have a good, because Kelly is not like, she's not going to put on a I'll probably be able to see.
Yes.
Very clearly that stuff happening.
So I am looking forward to that.
Yep.
And, and what I think is fun now.
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And one of the, one of the things that I thought was one of the funnier moments for last week for me was again, we keep coming back to that.
I'm a fat ass, but.
These are your words.
So Kelly is there.
She, again, narrow band of experience when it comes to this is very new for her.
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Just like it is for me and not used to ever being this weight.
Like this is literally heavier than she has ever been and very different from a center of gravity standpoint.
So she's just now, I think, starting to struggle with getting it out of bed and that kind of thing.
And the other morning she's getting up and she's, I hear a little groan and she goes, she looks at me and she's like, I don't know how you do what you do with your belly.
(42:22):
Oh God.
I'm like, I looked at her, I'm like, well, I've had it for a long time.
You'll get used to it.
Oh my God.
That's, that's like, I really, I just don't know how you do it.
And I'm like, okay.
She doesn't know how funny she is.
I mean, I'm telling you.
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She is.
She hates hoodies and she can't fit.
Oh, that's.
How do you manage?
I don't know how you, how do you tie your shoes?
Well, I have a stick.
No, it's so good though.
They know we love our wives.
Anybody else has that?
You're going, we're going to fight.
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This is a problem.
It's a problem.
There's a problem between you and me.
No.
Yeah.
I know.
She says she has no, no, like no idea.
And honestly, I'm just, I'm so amused by, I'm so amused because she's like, and I'm also like, come on, like 10 pounds.
That's not that much, but it's, it's just right there.
(43:25):
And she's having a hard time with it.
Yeah.
When you're never at that weight.
Yeah.
And then obviously all the different changes.
Everything else that's going on.
Yeah.
She's looking at you going, you must be a superhero.
How you walk around and walk upstairs.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm, you know, I'm a gymnast that I can manage to get around this medicine ball in front of me.
(43:48):
So yeah.
So I thought that was funny.
And then, so one of the other things that came up this week to talk about, and I'm not sure, I think I know what you guys do, but grandparent name.
Okay.
So the typical, so do you, so your dad and mom are, are Nono and Nona?
(44:09):
Yep.
So Nona, Nono, grandma and grandpa.
So we're a little different because my wife's side is from a divorced family.
So we have different, we have extras.
So there is a Bopshi thrown in there, which is, okay.
There could be a couple of ways to say this.
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We, in our family say Bopshi.
It's a Polish.
Like in my, my grandmother was Nani.
Nani.
Right.
Yeah.
So we have Bopshi and then we have grandpa and grandma.
Okay.
They are my wife's father's side, right?
Yeah.
Her father's side.
And then on her mother is Nona as well.
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Cause her mother was Sicilian and.
Okay.
Okay.
And the funny thing is my mother always loved the name grandpa.
Oh really?
She wanted to be called grandma for the voice.
And I'm like, what Nona?
She goes, yeah, but that's what we, she, she heard that all her life.
Yeah.
But when she came to America and she heard this grandma, grandpa, she loved it.
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She goes, oh, I wish you guys come.
Well, my kids just, they couldn't bring it to themselves and say grandma.
It's funny.
But she always loved it.
She wanted to be called grandma.
She wanted to be called grandma.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
So my grandmother, we called Nani.
I think my other grandmother, I never met.
She passed away before I was born.
Sure.
But I think they called her Nani as well.
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Okay.
And then my grandfather, my mom's dad, I, my mom's dad.
I called Pappy.
They, we called him Pappy.
And I think it was what, there were a lot.
I don't know why, but they were, uh, I think on that's on my mom's side, a lot of times what would happen is like the oldest grandchild would just, whatever they came up with, that kind of became like whatever they could pronounce the name.
(45:57):
Like my, my aunt and uncle, my aunt Shirley and uncle Frank, my aunt Shirley ended up getting called honey because her oldest, her oldest grandchild, they would call, she would call everybody.
They'd call everybody honey.
So he, at some point, her oldest grandchild called her honey.
My nephew calls her, my nephew calls his mother honey from day one to this day.
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He's 20 something years old.
That's interesting.
The other, so there, there was that, but so we had Nani and with Kelly's mom and dad, so Kelly's father emigrated from India, East Punjabi and they have a very, they have a different system.
So if you are the maternal grandfather, which her dad will be, you were called Nanaji, Nanaji, Nanaji.
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And if you are the paternal grandfather, so if it was my dad, it would be Papaji.
So he would be, if they go the traditional route, Nanaji.
And, but I don't know if that's going to be his choice or not.
I don't know if you want to keep this, if this is, he's also, he already has grandkids.
(47:12):
He does.
He has, he has two grandchildren.
And what do they call it?
I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know if they have, if they have a name.
That would probably answer your question.
Yeah, yeah, it might.
But yeah, so that's the one that's out there is Nanaji or Papaji, but Nanaji.
Maybe, maybe, or maybe he's going to be grandpa or mima.
I don't know.
(47:33):
So it could be anything.
And then, and then her mom, her mom is Polish.
So it would be, I think what, what Kelly said was Babcia, maybe like Babci.
Right.
So it could be that.
So Babcia.
And then, I don't know, I'm hoping that with some of my older siblings, that maybe one of them, since my folks are fast, that they will, one of them might be an Anani.
(48:03):
Right.
Or a grandpa or something, but you never know.
That's, they already have, they have grandchildren.
Most of them, or all of them have grandchildren.
So we'll see how that goes.
And then the other thing I thought about was what about, what did you want to be called as a dad?
Like, did you always think.
So I called my father, never called him dad.
(48:26):
Right.
My, we, we referred to my father as Papa.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
We, we traditional Italian, Pa, maybe Pa, but generally Papa.
Right.
Which is so weird.
Cause when you think about it, it's what a child would say, Papa, Papa.
Yeah.
And we just, we just, and everybody in Italy, my age would call their father, Papa.
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Papa and Ma.
Mama.
I don't say, that's weird.
Right.
We don't say Mama.
No.
But we say Papa.
Papa and Ma.
And Ma.
Yeah.
So, so I never thought I was going to be Papa.
I just, I, if I spoke Italian at the house with my kids, maybe.
Right.
Um, but I, I love, I love hearing dad.
Dad is yeah.
(49:08):
When my kids call me dad, but we never really talked about it.
But yeah, that's what I call my dad, Papa.
And I'm dad.
Right.
Yeah.
So I, that it's interesting.
I always called my dad, dad.
Right.
And then I ended up calling my mother Ma a lot.
But I think, but my siblings, I think called her mommy or mom.
(49:29):
I always ended up calling her Ma for some reason.
Actually, you just reminded me what my kids call me.
It's, it started probably like five years ago.
Right.
They, no, they call me father.
Hi father.
Father.
It's so funny.
Peter.
Hi father.
So I don't know if it started like with a TikTok thing.
(49:50):
Would somebody, but somehow, Hey mother.
Hey father.
Yeah.
So you just reminded me.
Yes.
They, he'll call me on the phone.
My, my sons and they'll be like, Hey father, how are you father?
And I'm like, we're so proper, but yes, I've been, yeah, it's more father.
It's weird.
I go back.
I like, I think, I don't know when I think of a little boy, I think dad, I don't know if I would want to be called daddy as a, from a little boy, but from a little girl or my cousins, my cousin, Sharon and her family, they called their father, papa.
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And I think it's cute.
It is cute.
And I might not.
Yeah.
So I haven't, I don't know if I've decided if I want to be dad or daddy.
You know, sometimes they, they, they decide for you.
That's true.
Whatever they can say the first words.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
Dada.
You might be dada for a while.
I could be dada.
(50:50):
But yeah, I guess.
Was, was there a first for, for you?
Like, what did your boys say first?
Mama or dada?
Um, I, I think the, the, I think dada, I think that was the first, I think so.
Cause I used to make fun of Trina going, ah, you know, something like that.
But believe it or not, I think it was my first, my first son, his first words, I swear to God, I don't know why it was clock, clock, just clock.
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So I don't know if dada or mama came first, but clock was, was always said.
Interesting.
So, uh, and we left, we'd be clock, clock.
So somehow that became his, one of his first words.
But yeah, dada would probably be, I think there is, I don't know.
We'll look it up.
What are the first ones?
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Most majority of the people.
Mama is easier for most kids.
The M sounds are easier than the D sounds.
Yeah, I guess so.
But maybe I didn't lose that one.
Maybe mama was, but I got clock.
That's true.
I think we could do a whole segment where Trina does like a commentary on these and is like, no, he's wrong.
He's wrong.
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He does not.
That is not true.
He wasn't even home when I got pregnant.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
But yeah, it might be mama, but yeah, but it was fun.
Natalia would say clock.
I'm going to have to decide.
We're going to have to decide.
So you're going to help decide another contest.
What should I be called?
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Other than, Hey, you.
ATM.
So, well, so, but that is, that brings us, that brings us up to date through week 22.
So this is fun.
Once again, thank you very much for sticking with us all the way to the end.
And since this is the week and a couple of days, enjoy, enjoy your Thanksgiving and have a great holiday.
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Spend all the time you can with your family, watch some football and that kind of stuff.
Don't talk about politics.
Don't talk about politics.
Or football.
People are passionate about that.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, you know, you talk about the cowboys and the giants and you got a fight in five minutes and the, I mean, we're already talking about the bills.
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We'll have a mafia.
Come on.
It's a, it's already a mafia out there.
That's right.
You don't want to make them mad.
One of my favorite things when it comes to, I know nothing about football, but I know enough that my nephew who is a, he's a, a police officer.
Yes.
He's in Dallas and obviously with the cowboys there.
And he is a, he is an Eagles fan.
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Thank God he has a gun.
At least, you know, he's safe.
Yeah, he's safe.
But otherwise, but that was, yeah.
And the funny thing is Thanksgiving has now become, we, we used to have what, I think two games.
I would think, I think there's 17 of them.
They start, they start in Germany.
Like around the clock.
Yeah, you get up at, you get up at seven in the morning, there's football.
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And now with Thanksgiving, they have the Thanksgiving morning, afternoon.
Now they have at night because it's Thursday night.
So now it falls in the, it's football all over the place.
But now see when you're not, when you're not tied to football like that, for me, it's the parade parade has to happen.
And it is the dog show.
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The national dog show is I always watch and I always root for the breeds that I own and they never win.
Because they're jumping at each other.
Because they're horribly behaved basically.
So happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
Thanks again.
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This is the Gray Hair and Day Care Podcast.
With a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range, your hosts Frank Sirio and Carlo Russo.
So it's good to be back.
We are back.
This is, I keep wondering every time I say we're back, I wonder if there's anybody who's still out there and I'm hoping there are, but welcome back.
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As you may or may not know, I am Frank Sirio.
I'm 55 years old.
My wife is now 22 weeks pregnant.
22.
And I'm here with my friend Carlo Russo.
Hello.
Thank you for having me again for episode five.
We've made it to five.
Almost turkey day.
That's right.
It's good for you, for me, it's not, but it will be.
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It will be.
Now we're very grateful and thankful this year.
Yes.
Oh my God.
There's lots to be thankful for.
Lots to be thankful for.
True.
So I noticed a couple of things.
Okay.
I don't know if the viewers are now watching this, but their video has been up for episode four, was it?
Episode four was actually, we were largely successful.
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The main camera, the new camera did beautifully.
Love the new camera.
Until the battery ran out.
So this time I have a power cord and we're hoping we're going to get a full coverage on the two shots.
What we had looked great.
Unfortunately, I look like I was picking up garbage.
I look like a garbage man.
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I was wearing old clothes.
I have to step it up.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Not that this is a suit that I'm wearing, but now I realized, first of all, yes, there's a pillow behind me because I'm a small man.
And it looked like my feet were just dangling off this chair.
I didn't know.
I didn't like that.
Never let anyone tell you you're a small man.
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To me, you were always beautiful.
I edited the whole thing.
I never once thought, wow, he looks like a hobo.
I looked at it going, okay, we're on video now.
We have to at least do our hair.
Well, in the first one of the first times we had video, I have a set of headphones that I'm checking the audio with.
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And I had this, this like a cockatiel bird.
And I think Carlo tried to warn me.
I was like, keep going.
So hopefully we had video problems.
Yes.
I still use some of the video because there was some good stuff there.
So that's what I've noticed.
So I'm excited that we up on video and I'm sure you'll talk about where they can see that down the line and all that good stuff.
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So, so while we're here and we're in the studio and I think everything's working.
Oh, let's hope, let's hope.
So we are in week 22.
And so the first thing we always talk about is the state of the baby.
So now my, my little girl is the size of a large mango, which I think is always make me hungry with these sizes.
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Last week you said something about squash and then now it's mango.
And it's like, I don't know, sizes of mango, but that's whatever it is.
What I think is interesting now is her hearing is improving and she can now learn sounds that she will recognize after she is born.
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Okay.
So something that was fun, Kelly and I went to a concert last night.
Oh, you did?
There was a, yeah, there was a concert.
And this is one that will make me seem even older than I, than I am in our video show or sound.
We went to see the Glenn Miller Orchestra.
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Wow.
Which is how old are you?
So the question is how old are they?
Oh yeah.
Remember Glenn Miller was World War II, 1939.
The band was founded.
They have, they have been a continuous band for 89 years.
They're not like Minuto where they have when they switch people out.
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They have to be a hundred and seven peacemakers and on IVs.
No, it was, but it was, it was a, it was a great show.
Incredibly talented musicians.
And Kelly afterwards, well, either she didn't, either she thought it was too loud or she really liked it.
And I'm like, I'm going now if she favors Kelly, it would be that's too loud.
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Right.
Again, Princess and the Pea.
If she favors me and my, my musical tastes, I I'm going to go with, I think she really enjoyed it.
And not loud enough.
So we've established and I like it that they opened and closed, they opened and closed the show with the same song, which happens to be one of my mother's, I think was my mother's favorite song, Moonlight Serenade.
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Nice.
And it was that, that was the song.
I'm hoping there's a little bit of that got through, through, through the, through the sweater.
And I mean, Kelly has, Kelly can sing.
She has a beautiful voice and I always, I always tease her when I, when we've sung things together that she had, I always have to remind her she's not in church.
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She has perfect diction.
She sang in the, I think she sang in a choir, but yeah, she has a beautiful voice.
So I'm going to believe that the child is going to have some, some talents there.
I would hope.
The ear, you know, maybe listening to music or picking it up singing wise, you sing, play instruments.
So that's a good thing that your child was moving.
Obviously that's what I'm assuming.
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She was moving around.
Yeah.
She was doing a little cha-cha.
It was, it was good.
So yeah.
So that was fun.
So that, that kind of falls into what you want to start doing with your child now that she can hear is the lullabies, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've, I've done some work.
I have not finalized a recording yet, but I've started work on what will be the first one.
Nice.
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And hope that very soon in the, certainly in the, hopefully in the next couple of episodes, we will be able to start one by one introducing and there's what's nice is the more I do it, I keep finding more.
So the list is growing and you're going down the road, but I'm practicing, you know, I'm practicing a few and it's everything from Harry Connick Jr. to Elvis to Sinatra, all kinds of fun, fun options.
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So I'm looking forward to doing that.
That's, that's all.
So yeah, I'm looking forward to doing all those.
22, the baby can hear.
Yeah.
And we'll recognize things later.
That's what's really cool.
That's it.
So now every night, right as Kelly falls asleep, I get right up next to her belly and go, daddy is the favorite.
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Over and over again.
Daddy, daddy is the favorite.
That's a great idea.
So yeah, no, it is.
That's an exciting thing.
There is something there that like idea that now there's a little person in there that's going to remember that is going to recognize things that she's hearing now is, is really a cool idea.
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So that's cool.
That's, that's awesome.
Cause when I went through, well, when my wife went through her pregnancy, we both go through it.
I didn't have all these details.
Um, I didn't, I had no idea week 10 and week 13 and 20.
And so that's kind of neat learning about it now with you.
That's cool.
It definitely, it enhances the experience.
Otherwise you're just like, okay, what's for dinner.
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That's a, which we'll talk about later on that there's been some changes with, with diet.
Uh, but anyhow, so the other thing I, I would like to talk about since this is coming out, this will come out two days before Thanksgiving.
And that is one of the, I, I love all holidays.
You do.
Christmas is probably the biggest one, but for people who don't know, Frank is a great cook.
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He loves cooking.
You love hosting.
I do.
Yes.
And it's, it's interesting.
Like I don't cook.
Well, I cook sometimes like I cook dinner, but I love to do big holiday dinners.
It's a fun challenge, but I will say I am not, I'm just now getting to the point after years of doing stuff like that, where I will experiment and cook.
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But when I started in for a long time and still now for an important dinner, I go to the food network.com.
I find a recipe and I follow the recipe, but I do, I enjoy it very much.
But so what are the, you know, what are the things, what are the family traditions for you for Thanksgiving?
Cause I know for Italians, it's a little bit different.
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Like we never like my dad always referred, I think pasta stuff, uh, to Turkey.
So there was a, there was a Turkey, but it was like, and there's the, and there's the Turkey.
Turkey is just for looks.
I mean, I guess we gotta do the Turkey.
Yeah.
I was probably more like growing up like your dad, probably had the pasta, the, the, um, the Turkey had to be there, but I believe we also had ham.
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My dad didn't like ham, so we never had ham.
Okay.
So we, more people liked ham than Turkey.
So we did the pastas and the Italian sides and stuff.
But as we got older and obviously now that I'm married and had kids, we do the traditional, there's the Turkey, the stuffing, the, you know, all the good stuff, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes.
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Uh, so we do that and I enjoy, I'm not a huge Turkey person anyways.
I'm not that, I'm not a fan of that, but I understand that, you know, especially when you have in-laws and they grew up with that tradition, I don't want to walk in there and go, where's the lasagna?
Where's the stuffed shells?
That's true.
Um, so I kind of, uh, you know, embraced it.
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So that's, so my mom always, holiday dinner, she would always make, she called it minestrone, but what it really is known more about is wedding soup, the little meatballs and chicken broth.
And it was, but that's a lot of work.
Like that's a lot of making a little meatballs, all that stuff.
But we always did that stuff.
And was Thanksgiving a football thing for, well, I know what it is for you.
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Right.
Was that a thing though?
Kids are like, did your dad or your family?
So my father never got into the American sports.
Uh, obviously soccer wasn't, is always will be number one in his heart.
So football was always on even growing up, but I don't think anyone, maybe one cousin or maybe one in-law was watching it.
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And all of us would be just like kind of running around and really didn't get into the whole thing until little later, but it was always on it.
What I think is funny is, so my, my mom's side of the family, the Rucoli side, as you often do on Sundays, we would go visit.
Most of the time we'd go to my grandmother's, but sometimes we'd go to an aunt or uncle or something.
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And I remember one time we were so disconnected from anything with sports.
We showed up at my, my uncle Frank and aunt Shirley's house and they're huge sports fans, sports fans.
And we knock on the door and they come to the door and they're like clearly confused.
And we had just showed up in the middle of the Superbowl.
Oh my God.
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No, I didn't.
We're like, come on, shut up.
Like it was, it was comical.
No idea.
That was the sports.
It was racing or boxing, but, but none of the, none of that, the typical stuff, the holidays.
But for me growing up too, it was because my siblings were so much older.
I think I have such an affinity for the holidays because my siblings were all, by the time I was in kindergarten, my siblings were all moved away.
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They were in college or off doing their own thing.
So that was the one time a year they came home was Thanksgiving and Christmas.
So I, I loved that time.
And it makes me think about siblings and, you know, where this is a miracle that we're, that we're having, that we're going to have our baby and thinking about, it would be nice to have that sibling interaction.
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I would love to have a second one, but we'll, we'll see how that all goes.
It does make me think the other thing that I think about when it comes to Thanksgiving or holidays in general and a, and a child is that this is going to be like one of the last holidays where I will go anywhere at all.
Like in my mind, like, I think once I have a kid, holidays, holidays are at my house.
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I want the memories to be here.
I want that.
You're building it here.
And that, so I apologize unreservedly to my family.
You are coming to my house or that's it.
And you're going to have to see pictures of the food and you know what you're missing.
Right.
But that, you know, I do, I do think, and I probably won't be able to pull that off.
But we'll have to.
I know, but it's nice to build that memories in the house with the trees and opening.
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We, we still do.
We, we have such, it's such a great time on the holidays, but you know, Christmas, obviously with the gifts that the kids, even though they're 18 and 23, they'll still come over.
They'll still, you know, all have their hot cocoa and we'll, we'll go in the, in the, the den and we'll have the tree on the fire will be on and we'll open up our gifts and they turn into three-year-olds again.
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That's awesome.
It's awesome.
You're going to love that.
You're going to always think of that.
But that made something that you said kind of made me think of this question when you were in kindergarten, you're old about five years old, six, sometimes when you, when you saw your, your siblings coming over, did you see them as an adults?
Did you see them as, because when I look at my, my brothers, I thought they were, were basically the same age.
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So I didn't think, but were you looking at them like, oh, these are adults or how did you?
Yeah.
I mean, so the closest to me is my sister, Lucille, who's about 13 years older than me, which is a chunk of my brother's 19.
So, you know, I didn't even have any memory of my brother living at home.
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Right.
He was gone.
He graduated from SU and he moved away.
I think I saw, I think I saw them as, I didn't see them as peers as I got much older.
Then I think I kind of established a more typical sibling relationship, but no, I think I saw them all as extra parents that had more energy and more fun than my parents.
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Yeah.
Cause again, you didn't build that sibling development because they weren't home.
No.
I think what was interesting was later on.
So my sister Lucille had my nephew when I was 10.
Yeah.
So by the time I got my license, he was six.
Yeah.
And I always felt like he was my nephew because I was so much littler.
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But what was interesting was when I got my, he didn't like, he had come to visit with my sister and I was going to drive and he was freaking out because he clearly in his world thought of me as another child.
Like, it was like, you're just a, you're just a big kid.
You shouldn't be in charge of a vehicle.
Why are you driving?
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Isn't that funny how, yeah, you get kind of.
The perception is very different, but.
But the holidays.
Yeah.
The holidays, you got to keep those memories, build them at the house.
And I think that's, that's, you're going to love that.
I think it's going to be fun.
This year is going to be interesting because my brother, he's been retired for many years and he, because he's constantly being reminded by his financial advisors that he has to spend some of his retirement, right.
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That he's, he basically feels like according to the actuarial tables, he's going to die at any moment, even though he's incredibly healthy.
No, like he's just like, he's going to live 20 years, but, but he's felt very compelled.
He wanted everybody to come to his place in Nashville.
So my sister and her husband and Kelly and I, and my sister from Texas are all going to, are all going to Nashville for Thanksgiving for this Thanksgiving.
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Yeah.
So we're going to, we're going to go there and that's awesome.
It is.
Yeah.
That's going to be fun.
We're looking forward to it.
But just yesterday there's a, but in the now, not in this timeline, but just yesterday in our timeline, we've got kind of a late night text and we're still like, this is still early November for us.
Right.
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I got a mandate from my brother that we are not allowed to discuss politics at all throughout, throughout the visit.
I like that.
I like that request.
You think you see, you think that's good.
I do because unless everyone's on board, right.
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And generally that doesn't happen in a family because people have opinions and, and, and everybody's opinion is great.
And as if that's not the case and everybody's not on the same, then there's nothing you're going to change in the living room.
That's going to make or break, you know what I mean?
It's going to fix politics.
You're not figuring it out.
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Yeah.
Putting it on the table and have fun with the people there.
I agree with that.
I think so.
It's interesting because I think about it and initially I'm like, yeah, like, well, no, no, not at all.
I, I, I, I immediately was, he, he wrote this kind of flowery like text message.
And the first thing I said was, this is obviously done by Chad GPT, but there's no way.
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But, and I think there might have been a, he might've had a little hop, but no, immediately I'm like, sure, whatever, you know, but I did think for a minute there, like, this is kind of what is bad.
Right.
Cause if you, if you just say, we're not going to talk about it, everybody knows they could all ever, I could predict what each person in, in that house, I'm going to say, like, I've talked to my brother a lot about politics and I think we're, we're largely aligned, but you know, I know what everybody thinks, but you're just not going to talk about it.
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Why they, we should be able to talk about, I, in a way, part of me thinks we should be able to talk about that and still care about each other.
But I do also know I have been told repeatedly by people that I work with and people that I love that I have a tendency to say things as if, and I could be thinking about something that I, this is just an idea.
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I am not sold on it.
I am just, this is what I think about this.
And I could be very malleable, right?
I might, I might change my mind or not, but I will sound like I am telling you something that is an incontrovertible truth and that you better not, but I can't, it's just the way, it's the way I present myself, because I think I grew up in a house where it was like a crucible of verbal combat, right?
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So I get it.
It probably is.
He's probably right in his advanced years.
He's wise and he doesn't want us to do that.
Think about this.
People fight and have killed each other over Yankees, Red Sox.
Yes.
You don't think politics might get a little heated?
Might get a little heated.
That's it.
Well, that's interesting.
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Yeah.
It's cool.
Nashville.
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
I'm looking forward.
Nashville is a great city.
You've been.
It's a great city.
So that's Thanksgiving stuff that you guys hopefully will enjoy.
Happy Thanksgiving.
So the first segment of this is this is going to be a first time for us.
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We did a bunch of segments in the last episode, but this segment is the diaper diet.
So again, now that you have video, you can see the corpulent man that I am and I.
You look wonderful.
Thank you so much.
So my wife, Kelly, obviously is a kind of a tall and thin and has a normal relationship with food.
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And then there's me, but I, in an encouragement for her and wanting to be more healthy myself, I thought it would be fun to try to track with Kelly's weight gain that we make it a contest and that as she gains weight.
She gained.
I try to lose more than she gains.
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Wow.
And then once she peaks and we have the baby, then I'll keep up with her as she loses again because she's going to she's got it under control.
So right now.
Don't say this in front of that doctor that you asked the question.
Don't talk about your diet.
I can't wait to go back.
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Episode two or three was.
Yeah, that was not good.
So we've got that.
So right now I'm not and I'm not going to share what my actual weight or hers is.
Right.
But right now, as from baseline, Kelly has gained 12.2 pounds.
Wow.
So now she's got a little belly.
I was going to say.
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It's so cute.
That's 12 pounds on her belly.
Yeah.
Look at the brains on Brett.
It's impressive.
So again, so now she's showing a little bit of it.
So she is up 12.2. I am only down 11.
So she is winning by 1.2 pounds.
You lost 11.
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I've lost 11 pounds so far.
God bless you.
Well, I could do I'm sure I could do better.
It's good.
But yeah, no, it's been steady.
Like, and honestly, I'm trying to just it's been get up in the morning.
I do a little warm up and some stretches.
When Kelly drives to work, I do it takes her drive is about 20 minutes and talk during the drive.
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OK, I come down and I either do the rowing machine or I do some time on the bike.
Nice.
And then I try three days a week to do some kind of resistance training, kettlebell workout or or something, you know, some weights or.
I resist myself to go to the gym.
Yeah, right.
It's been good.
I feel better and I think that's been helping.
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And then I've been also trying to do a little bit of intermittent fasting.
So yes, I have coffee in the morning, but I don't I don't eat anything until lunchtime.
So noon, I'll have something.
Been down that road.
Yeah.
The black coffee.
I've always drank black coffee.
I never put anything in.
So that is the diaper diet update.
I got some work to do.
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I think from here, I don't know exactly how the weight gain will work for Kelly.
I think I've got a chance to catch up maybe in the next couple of weeks.
Yeah, I don't know because she's not just packing it on.
So we'll see how that goes.
That's good.
I mean, I'm sorry that I looked very shocked.
You lost 11?
I mean, after I said that, this is why this is why I said it, not because I'm a jerk like the doctor thought you were, because Frank has everything written down now.
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We're very professional here.
And I saw a number.
I saw what you would.
The difference was one point.
One point two.
That's what I thought you lost.
Oh, OK.
So when you said 11, I'm like, wait a minute, you lost 11.
So that's why I said that, not because he doesn't look like he lost 11.
He was he was tricked.
So we have our little scripts.
I have some notes that we that we refer to.
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And I put I put bad data on Carlos stuff all the time.
He'll be confused throughout throughout the podcast.
I read it wrong.
So it was that's why when you said 11, I was thinking of one point one.
That's OK.
So that was good.
I don't think I look I don't I don't think I was 11.
But no, so that's so that is the diaper diet.
And then now the the next segment is going to be another installment.
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So number two, everybody's favorite book report.
So not surprisingly, this is another dog book.
But the this week's book report is on tell your dog you're pregnant.
An essential guide for dog owners who are expecting a baby.
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Now, these are the same dogs that attack me every time I walk in with love, loving kisses.
See, I tell I tell my dogs that you are delicious and they try and they try to find that out.
So, again, tell your dog you're pregnant.
An essential guide for dog owners who are expecting a baby picture on the front.
It's by Dr. Lewis Kirkham, again, available on his work.
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And yes, he's a brilliant man.
The only thing I'll say about this one, I really like the first book, the one we did last episode.
This one's OK, too, but it's kind of almost the same content, a little bit less structured and on point with do this, do this, do this, like step by step.
This one isn't a step by step, but this one comes with a link.
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And I do think this is a good idea.
And we haven't started using it yet.
Comes to a link and it includes a downloadable 13 tracks of baby and toy noises.
OK, that you can play in the background and get the dogs used to the baby sounds.
And I do think that's a good idea because that's something that my dogs absolutely are.
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They they respond diligently and and very quickly to any sound.
They know the sound of like the ring doorbell, the motion sensors, anything that happens that my phone has an alert.
They know and they're like it's bad because sometimes like the text alert on my phone is the same as a motion alert in the driveway.
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And so now if I get a text, they think somebody's here and they're like jumping over the couch to get to the door.
That's hilarious.
So I do think this this will be good.
We'll use that to at the very least to kind of expose them to baby sounds.
Right.
And get them used to it because.
Will there be babies crying?
Would that be something that you want that to be?
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Babies crying, little cooing, playing sounds, all that.
That's a great idea.
I think that is a good idea.
That's a great idea.
That makes this one worthwhile, I think.
So again, I would give it maybe, you know, the other one we gave four rattles.
I'll give three and a half rattles to this one only because of the download, the sound, the baby sounds.
If you don't have a baby that you can already scare the dogs with, here's your ticket.
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So four and a half, three and a half rattles.
Three and a half rattles.
Because of downloads.
Because of the downloadable soundtrack of baby noises.
I like that.
Tell your dog you're pregnant.
An essential guide for dog owners who are expecting a baby.
Dr. Lewis Kirkham.
And they can find this Amazon.
It's on Amazon.
You can find it everywhere.
This one I think is actually published.
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I think it's an Australian publisher.
Yeah.
So that is that is it for the book report.
And now it's time for us to take a little break.
All right.
So here we are and we are about to go into our final segment.
Final segment.
What just happened.
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So the events of the last week, there's been some interesting updates here and there.
The fun one just kind of passing thing is now for Kelly, leggings are a thing.
Kelly never has been a leggings girl and do that and wear them.
Yeah.
But now they're comfortable and they're.
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Stretchy.
They're stretchy.
So she has embraced leggings.
And I think they look good.
Probably look great.
Yeah, they look good.
Tall and thin.
So yeah.
So maybe that'll continue afterwards.
I was going to say, do you think that'll come into her regular wear?
Not to imply at all that my lovely wife is overly consistent.
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But I don't think so.
I think she'll go right back.
She's going right back.
There's something about this.
And it makes me think about after we were together.
So when we first started dating, maybe months in, by the time we were getting serious, we were having a conversation and Kelly was telling me the story that she was talking to a therapist and has found it very beneficial over the years, as many people do.
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And, and she, she's having a conversation when we first met.
Okay.
About how she wasn't sure how she felt about the fact that she was dating a man who wore a hoodie.
I'm sorry.
I didn't expect that.
I would.
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I'm serious.
She must hate me.
It's all I wear.
She says this, she says this.
And I'm like, what?
Wow.
And she's like, well, you know, you wore, you used to wear that hoodie.
And now, and what you, and I don't wear a lot of hoodie, but I had this, it was a black and Eddie Bauer hoodie.
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You know, like it was nice enough.
I didn't wear it all the time.
Like we weren't going to the symphony wearing the hoodie, but I just, I couldn't help but laugh.
That's great.
And I'm like, I'm glad through therapy, you were able to work through your concerns about, but in fairness, as you, as you do early on in a relationship, you talk about the foibles of who else you have dated and all that.
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And I'm like, so, you know, how have you, you know, how, how has dating been with you?
And she was dating like pilots, professors, like multiple college professors, academics, doctors, like attorneys.
So I'm sure.
(30:07):
And then it comes to me, she's like, what do you do for, what did you do to work today?
I fixed a dragon.
Like she had, that was the other, she had no idea what I did for a living.
Cause I would say like, what did you do today?
Well, I worked on, I worked on some, you know, financial modeling.
Oh, what'd you do today?
Well, you know, the, the castle door was stuck.
(30:27):
I watched Carlo crawling through the castle door because some kid got stuck there the other day.
No, I didn't.
She had no idea.
So beyond having no understanding of what I did for a living, she also was a little concerned with my wardrobe.
So in short, that would be my, my reasoning for thinking leggings will likely be retired sometime very soon after the birth of our daughter.
(30:52):
I cannot believe I've never heard that story.
That is so great.
Imagine the doctor on the other end going, okay, she's going to tell me something really big that he's wearing or doing.
She comes out with the hoodie and the doctor has to sit there and go, that's valid.
Yes.
That's well without laughing.
That's I'll listen to whatever you want for $250 an hour.
I'll listen to everything.
(31:14):
I'll burn your hoodie.
So that hoodie got to the point where it was done.
It was going to get retired.
I was like, well, you know, we can donate and I'm anyway.
And of course, then I bring it up.
Anyway, this is almost cost me my marriage.
And immediately Kelly's like, well, no, we can kiss.
(31:34):
So it's, it's here somewhere, like in a tote, like it'll never get.
Isn't that funny?
When people, when they see what they think and you like that to you, it's like, that's not a, that wasn't a problem.
That's not a, that's so my wife does the same thing.
Cause okay.
I get home and I'll put on my shorts and I hate having anything heavy.
(31:56):
It could be winter.
I have shorts and I'm also sure I don't care, but you get stuck in this routine and you wear the same comfortable shorts and shirt.
And my wife would be like, Oh, I noticed that you have your uniform on.
There's your uniform.
And I just like, well, what's the problem?
And I, you know, you realize like, yeah, she comes home from work and all she sees me in is this shorts.
(32:21):
And so I get it.
It's true.
Yeah.
I think that's a guy thing too.
There's something it's utilitarian.
Yeah.
It's like all through world war two, Churchill war, like a jumpsuit, right?
The same jumpsuit every day.
Cause he doesn't want, you know, when you're trying to save the free world, you don't need to worry about what color shirt you're not worrying about.
Yeah.
But not that I'm not that either of us are saving the free world.
(32:42):
No, but yeah.
So, so the leggings are leggings, leggings are a thing.
Leggings will likely not be a thing forever.
But this, this, she mentioned how comfortable I mean, sometimes you just, cause listen, she might go from this, obviously the pregnancy, but afterwards, she's still going to be tired, not want to put clothes on her body.
(33:03):
So the leggings might stick around.
Yeah.
That's true.
Stick around for a while.
She is a big fan of layers.
She's always cold.
So she, I think the leggings, they might stay around, but if I had, if I under three pair of pants, yeah.
Leggings under jeans, under sweats, under a robe, maybe.
But that's a, that's a, so, so that the leggings are, the leggings are here to stay for a while.
(33:29):
Yes.
So the other update, which I'm very excited about is her appetite is vastly improved.
Cause we talked about this problem a couple of.
It was concerning, but she's eaten much better.
Definitely.
You know, I was teasing her a little bit about it.
And then she told me like what she ate at work.
Cause really at home, she has, she has breakfast before she goes to work.
(33:52):
And then dinner time, I don't feel like she's eating a lot, but then compared to what I know she used to eat at work, she's bringing snacks, she's having stuff and she's eating more at dinner time, which I feel, I feel a lot better about.
And I think what that led to was there was actually two now, cause one happened earlier
(34:13):
today, but the first real, I think pregnancy craving that she has had, cause she has had,
she's had some aversion or things that she liked, but this time the other day she had
had breakfast and have a coffee where, you know, having some coffee and, and all of a
sudden she's like, I want beans on toast and sausages after breakfast.
(34:39):
Like it was an hour after she had a good breakfast and she, and I'm like, okay, this is great.
So you have to go to like to England.
She whipped it right up for herself.
So she had beans on, beans on toast and, and little breakfast sausages and happy as a clam.
And I'm like, so baked beans.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, you guys had breakfast already.
(35:03):
She had already had breakfast and yeah.
So second breakfast, beans on toast.
Has she ever had that prior to pregnancy?
No, never, never.
Not only has she not said it, never mentioned it, never nothing.
It wasn't.
No.
I mean, when we were in London, we had like a couple, a couple of places we had a traditional bangers and mash traditional breakfast.
(35:29):
But, but no, she'd never mentioned it.
Never mentioned it before.
She has this thing now that she's been having for breakfast.
I don't know if you've ever heard of this.
It's a cereal called Weetabix.
You ever heard of this?
Does anybody?
I don't think so, but.
Are oftentimes my wife will say things and I will say only, you know, that word or only, you know, that thing or that television show.
(35:51):
And most of it, she is kind of an Anglophile.
Like she likes British stuff.
And I think Weetabix might be that, but it's something from there, from her childhood that she used to have.
It looks like, like, I don't know, wheat based disappointment.
Like it does not look good.
It's like, it makes, it makes shredded wheat look exciting.
(36:11):
That's all I'm thinking of is shredded wheat.
It's something like, it's something like that.
And so she has, you know, she has.
She wants, she has craving in it.
She's been having that for breakfast.
So she had already had that.
And then an hour later, she wanted the beans on toast and the sausages, which is good.
And then I got a text message randomly today from her.
Get more beans!
(36:31):
No, it was, I want, it was, I want a grilled cheese.
And I'm like, all right, can't, can't bring you the grilled cheese, but I'm glad, like, so we've had two official cravings, beans on toast and breakfast sausages and now a grilled cheese, grilled cheese.
So yeah.
And now we have, we have some leggings.
So her heartburn and stuff like that has been much, much better.
(36:54):
So yeah, that makes it gone up.
Yeah.
She had the ice cream and you know, the only cravings have been those we just talked about.
And she's not a sweet person now.
No, no ice cream.
Cookies, stuff like that.
She has like Christmas time.
There's a couple of cookies she will make.
And then she'll have those.
(37:15):
She also, for some reason, she insists on making, does anybody in your family make a rum cake?
No, but I love it.
Really?
I love it.
Like with the, with the green and red cherries in it, like.
Whatever rum cake is.
Fruit cake.
Oh, fruit cake.
Not rum cake.
You said rum cake.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
No, fruit cake.
I don't know what the hell that is.
(37:36):
And it's not easy to make.
Like you, first of all, what I don't like is it's got like, she gets the candied cherries.
Dried.
That are green.
I know what you're talking about.
And red.
And so they look like Star Trek food.
Yeah, yeah.
First of all, that's in there.
And then you have to soak this thing in rum.
Yep.
For a long time or in whatever it is.
(37:57):
Not a, no, it's not rum.
It's a cognac.
Really?
Something like that.
Something strong.
With a strong odor.
I don't know what it is.
I guess I've never had it.
It's.
Because the look of it.
It is.
And I think she thinks I'm just being mean.
But it is one of the, you know, I love to eat everything.
I love sweets.
It is the most repellent thing.
(38:18):
I can't stand to look at it.
And then because she's the only one who eats it.
And she doesn't really eat sweets often.
It lives.
It lives in the fridge out in the garage for months.
All right.
So I have to remember.
This is a Christmas thing or?
It is a Christmas thing.
When we're, when I'm here, I will take it.
I will taste it.
Because I don't know if I had that ever.
Her family all loves it.
Like they all, they all think it's great.
(38:40):
I mean, in my mind, the only thing ever with.
With that fruitcake is the thing that you give to people.
And then they just give it to someone else.
Yeah, they'll re-gift it.
Yeah, they re-gift it.
Because nobody wants it.
That's what I'm thinking of.
So this is not that.
So I don't know, but.
I'll taste it this year.
Okay.
She would, she will be enthusiastic.
I'm going to do it on the podcast, actually.
(39:01):
Okay.
We'll just show everybody what we're talking about.
If she makes it this year, or there might still be some from last year.
I'll check the, I'll check the fridge.
If it's in liquor, it's probably still good.
Oh, it's preserved.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
But so the.
That's fine.
I think the most significant thing that has happened in the last week though.
(39:22):
Because there has been a lot more movement.
Kelly has been telling me, you know, I'm a healer.
But it's kind of, and so she has suggested the other day when we're watching TV.
Just keep your hand on, keep your hand on my belly.
Okay.
Rest it there.
So she like put it right there a little bit low.
(39:43):
And I got to feel the first kick, the first movement.
And that was, that was pretty.
That's awesome.
It was very neat.
I was, I didn't get choked up.
I was going to say you had to have teared up, no?
No, I got excited.
It was like.
All right.
It was just, it was such a fun experience.
And it just adds, you know, it's this new, you know, you know, she's in there.
(40:05):
Isn't that crazy?
It is.
I know we're not saying anything that nobody's ever said.
But there's a human and another human.
And it's like you're growing this person.
Yeah.
It's so cool.
Like you're her house.
You're her house right now.
That's why they love mommy so much.
You're her first apartment.
That was, it's yeah, no, it was a nice moment.
(40:26):
But it was an, it was an exciting, it was a Christmas morning moment.
Yeah.
And there were, I just, I was excited.
Yeah.
That's neat.
When you, like I said, we were talking about hearing the heartbeat for the first time.
Yeah.
Now you're, you're actually getting hit.
Yeah.
You can feel, there's, there's, there's a little somebody in there.
So anyway, so this, that, that was all fun stuff.
(40:48):
Feeling the first kick.
Sure.
I'm looking forward to now I'll be like, you know, if I wake up in the middle of the night, I'll be like.
Yeah.
And it's just going to get more and more.
Yeah.
The crazy thing was when you can actually see.
Oh yeah.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
You can actually see the foot.
I want to see the feet.
And that is the craziest vision.
You're looking at your wife's belly area and you see a foot or two.
(41:11):
You see somebody waving at you.
Or you see a hand moving.
And then when they, when they're leaning a certain way, it's got to be uncomfortable for them.
I think that I will probably have a good, because Kelly is not like, she's not going to put on a I'll probably be able to see.
Yes.
Very clearly that stuff happening.
So I am looking forward to that.
Yep.
And, and what I think is fun now.
(41:32):
And one of the, one of the things that I thought was one of the funnier moments for last week for me was again, we keep coming back to that.
I'm a fat ass, but.
These are your words.
So Kelly is there.
She, again, narrow band of experience when it comes to this is very new for her.
(41:52):
Just like it is for me and not used to ever being this weight.
Like this is literally heavier than she has ever been and very different from a center of gravity standpoint.
So she's just now, I think, starting to struggle with getting it out of bed and that kind of thing.
And the other morning she's getting up and she's, I hear a little groan and she goes, she looks at me and she's like, I don't know how you do what you do with your belly.
(42:22):
Oh God.
I'm like, I looked at her, I'm like, well, I've had it for a long time.
You'll get used to it.
Oh my God.
That's, that's like, I really, I just don't know how you do it.
And I'm like, okay.
She doesn't know how funny she is.
I mean, I'm telling you.
(42:43):
She is.
She hates hoodies and she can't fit.
Oh, that's.
How do you manage?
I don't know how you, how do you tie your shoes?
Well, I have a stick.
No, it's so good though.
They know we love our wives.
Anybody else has that?
You're going, we're going to fight.
(43:04):
This is a problem.
It's a problem.
There's a problem between you and me.
No.
Yeah.
I know.
She says she has no, no, like no idea.
And honestly, I'm just, I'm so amused by, I'm so amused because she's like, and I'm also like, come on, like 10 pounds.
That's not that much, but it's, it's just right there.
(43:25):
And she's having a hard time with it.
Yeah.
When you're never at that weight.
Yeah.
And then obviously all the different changes.
Everything else that's going on.
Yeah.
She's looking at you going, you must be a superhero.
How you walk around and walk upstairs.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm, you know, I'm a gymnast that I can manage to get around this medicine ball in front of me.
(43:48):
So yeah.
So I thought that was funny.
And then, so one of the other things that came up this week to talk about, and I'm not sure, I think I know what you guys do, but grandparent name.
Okay.
So the typical, so do you, so your dad and mom are, are Nono and Nona?
(44:09):
Yep.
So Nona, Nono, grandma and grandpa.
So we're a little different because my wife's side is from a divorced family.
So we have different, we have extras.
So there is a Bopshi thrown in there, which is, okay.
There could be a couple of ways to say this.
(44:30):
We, in our family say Bopshi.
It's a Polish.
Like in my, my grandmother was Nani.
Nani.
Right.
Yeah.
So we have Bopshi and then we have grandpa and grandma.
Okay.
They are my wife's father's side, right?
Yeah.
Her father's side.
And then on her mother is Nona as well.
(44:50):
Cause her mother was Sicilian and.
Okay.
Okay.
And the funny thing is my mother always loved the name grandpa.
Oh really?
She wanted to be called grandma for the voice.
And I'm like, what Nona?
She goes, yeah, but that's what we, she, she heard that all her life.
Yeah.
But when she came to America and she heard this grandma, grandpa, she loved it.
(45:13):
She goes, oh, I wish you guys come.
Well, my kids just, they couldn't bring it to themselves and say grandma.
It's funny.
But she always loved it.
She wanted to be called grandma.
She wanted to be called grandma.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
So my grandmother, we called Nani.
I think my other grandmother, I never met.
She passed away before I was born.
Sure.
But I think they called her Nani as well.
(45:33):
Okay.
And then my grandfather, my mom's dad, I, my mom's dad.
I called Pappy.
They, we called him Pappy.
And I think it was what, there were a lot.
I don't know why, but they were, uh, I think on that's on my mom's side, a lot of times what would happen is like the oldest grandchild would just, whatever they came up with, that kind of became like whatever they could pronounce the name.
(45:57):
Like my, my aunt and uncle, my aunt Shirley and uncle Frank, my aunt Shirley ended up getting called honey because her oldest, her oldest grandchild, they would call, she would call everybody.
They'd call everybody honey.
So he, at some point, her oldest grandchild called her honey.
My nephew calls her, my nephew calls his mother honey from day one to this day.
(46:22):
He's 20 something years old.
That's interesting.
The other, so there, there was that, but so we had Nani and with Kelly's mom and dad, so Kelly's father emigrated from India, East Punjabi and they have a very, they have a different system.
So if you are the maternal grandfather, which her dad will be, you were called Nanaji, Nanaji, Nanaji.
(46:52):
And if you are the paternal grandfather, so if it was my dad, it would be Papaji.
So he would be, if they go the traditional route, Nanaji.
And, but I don't know if that's going to be his choice or not.
I don't know if you want to keep this, if this is, he's also, he already has grandkids.
(47:12):
He does.
He has, he has two grandchildren.
And what do they call it?
I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know if they have, if they have a name.
That would probably answer your question.
Yeah, yeah, it might.
But yeah, so that's the one that's out there is Nanaji or Papaji, but Nanaji.
Maybe, maybe, or maybe he's going to be grandpa or mima.
I don't know.
(47:33):
So it could be anything.
And then, and then her mom, her mom is Polish.
So it would be, I think what, what Kelly said was Babcia, maybe like Babci.
Right.
So it could be that.
So Babcia.
And then, I don't know, I'm hoping that with some of my older siblings, that maybe one of them, since my folks are fast, that they will, one of them might be an Anani.
(48:03):
Right.
Or a grandpa or something, but you never know.
That's, they already have, they have grandchildren.
Most of them, or all of them have grandchildren.
So we'll see how that goes.
And then the other thing I thought about was what about, what did you want to be called as a dad?
Like, did you always think.
So I called my father, never called him dad.
(48:26):
Right.
My, we, we referred to my father as Papa.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
We, we traditional Italian, Pa, maybe Pa, but generally Papa.
Right.
Which is so weird.
Cause when you think about it, it's what a child would say, Papa, Papa.
Yeah.
And we just, we just, and everybody in Italy, my age would call their father, Papa.
(48:47):
Papa and Ma.
Mama.
I don't say, that's weird.
Right.
We don't say Mama.
No.
But we say Papa.
Papa and Ma.
And Ma.
Yeah.
So, so I never thought I was going to be Papa.
I just, I, if I spoke Italian at the house with my kids, maybe.
Right.
Um, but I, I love, I love hearing dad.
Dad is yeah.
(49:08):
When my kids call me dad, but we never really talked about it.
But yeah, that's what I call my dad, Papa.
And I'm dad.
Right.
Yeah.
So I, that it's interesting.
I always called my dad, dad.
Right.
And then I ended up calling my mother Ma a lot.
But I think, but my siblings, I think called her mommy or mom.
(49:29):
I always ended up calling her Ma for some reason.
Actually, you just reminded me what my kids call me.
It's, it started probably like five years ago.
Right.
They, no, they call me father.
Hi father.
Father.
It's so funny.
Peter.
Hi father.
So I don't know if it started like with a TikTok thing.
(49:50):
Would somebody, but somehow, Hey mother.
Hey father.
Yeah.
So you just reminded me.
Yes.
They, he'll call me on the phone.
My, my sons and they'll be like, Hey father, how are you father?
And I'm like, we're so proper, but yes, I've been, yeah, it's more father.
It's weird.
I go back.
I like, I think, I don't know when I think of a little boy, I think dad, I don't know if I would want to be called daddy as a, from a little boy, but from a little girl or my cousins, my cousin, Sharon and her family, they called their father, papa.
(50:28):
And I think it's cute.
It is cute.
And I might not.
Yeah.
So I haven't, I don't know if I've decided if I want to be dad or daddy.
You know, sometimes they, they, they decide for you.
That's true.
Whatever they can say the first words.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
Dada.
You might be dada for a while.
I could be dada.
(50:50):
But yeah, I guess.
Was, was there a first for, for you?
Like, what did your boys say first?
Mama or dada?
Um, I, I think the, the, I think dada, I think that was the first, I think so.
Cause I used to make fun of Trina going, ah, you know, something like that.
But believe it or not, I think it was my first, my first son, his first words, I swear to God, I don't know why it was clock, clock, just clock.
(51:20):
So I don't know if dada or mama came first, but clock was, was always said.
Interesting.
So, uh, and we left, we'd be clock, clock.
So somehow that became his, one of his first words.
But yeah, dada would probably be, I think there is, I don't know.
We'll look it up.
What are the first ones?
(51:40):
Most majority of the people.
Mama is easier for most kids.
The M sounds are easier than the D sounds.
Yeah, I guess so.
But maybe I didn't lose that one.
Maybe mama was, but I got clock.
That's true.
I think we could do a whole segment where Trina does like a commentary on these and is like, no, he's wrong.
He's wrong.
(52:01):
He does not.
That is not true.
He wasn't even home when I got pregnant.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
But yeah, it might be mama, but yeah, but it was fun.
Natalia would say clock.
I'm going to have to decide.
We're going to have to decide.
So you're going to help decide another contest.
What should I be called?
(52:23):
Other than, Hey, you.
ATM.
So, well, so, but that is, that brings us, that brings us up to date through week 22.
So this is fun.
Once again, thank you very much for sticking with us all the way to the end.
And since this is the week and a couple of days, enjoy, enjoy your Thanksgiving and have a great holiday.
(52:49):
Spend all the time you can with your family, watch some football and that kind of stuff.
Don't talk about politics.
Don't talk about politics.
Or football.
People are passionate about that.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, you know, you talk about the cowboys and the giants and you got a fight in five minutes and the, I mean, we're already talking about the bills.
(53:10):
We'll have a mafia.
Come on.
It's a, it's already a mafia out there.
That's right.
You don't want to make them mad.
One of my favorite things when it comes to, I know nothing about football, but I know enough that my nephew who is a, he's a, a police officer.
Yes.
He's in Dallas and obviously with the cowboys there.
And he is a, he is an Eagles fan.
(53:33):
Thank God he has a gun.
At least, you know, he's safe.
Yeah, he's safe.
But otherwise, but that was, yeah.
And the funny thing is Thanksgiving has now become, we, we used to have what, I think two games.
I would think, I think there's 17 of them.
They start, they start in Germany.
Like around the clock.
Yeah, you get up at, you get up at seven in the morning, there's football.
(53:56):
And now with Thanksgiving, they have the Thanksgiving morning, afternoon.
Now they have at night because it's Thursday night.
So now it falls in the, it's football all over the place.
But now see when you're not, when you're not tied to football like that, for me, it's the parade parade has to happen.
And it is the dog show.
(54:16):
The national dog show is I always watch and I always root for the breeds that I own and they never win.
Because they're jumping at each other.
Because they're horribly behaved basically.
So happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
Thanks again.
Please send us your ideas, questions, comments, thoughts, name suggestions, certainly, and share the podcast with friends and give us some reviews.
(54:44):
We appreciate it.
And again, have a great, have a great holiday.
Well, folks, that's another episode of the Gray Hair and Daycare podcast in the books.
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