November 19, 2024 • 60 mins
In this episode of the Gray Hair and Day Care podcast, Frank and Carlo dive deeper into the realities of impending fatherhood, discussing everything from listener feedback and the cost of raising a child to product reviews and the importance of open communication.
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The Silver Fox Mailbox: Addressing listener questions, ideas, and stories.
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Check, Please: A humorous look at the financial side of raising a child, including budgeting and surprising costs.
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Crash Test Daddy: Putting baby gear to the test, featuring the Ergo Baby Embrace Cozy Newborn Carrier.
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Book Report: Reviewing and discussing "Good Dog, Happy Baby: Preparing Your Dog for the Arrival of Your Child".
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What Just Happened: Sharing weekly events and updates on the baby's development, non-invasive prenatal testing, and open communication between partners.
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(00:12):
This is the Gray Hair and Day Care Podcast.
With a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ rate in that same range, your hosts, Frank Cirio and Carlo Russo.
Look at that.
So, we're back.
We are back.
For episode four.
(00:34):
We made it to four, Frank.
We made it.
Now, this is the one I've made some significant investments in technology.
Yes.
We have a much neater setup and maybe I'll do some behind the scenes photos later.
But anyway, welcome back.
As hopefully some of you know or if this is your first time, my name is Frank Cirio.
I am 55 years old and my wife is now 21 weeks pregnant.
(00:58):
So the first thing that we always talk about is the state of the, of the baby, state of the baby.
So the baby is the, now the size of a spaghetti squash, love spaghetti and squash.
I do like spaghetti squash.
Well, I had butternut squash for dinner the other day, but I think that's bigger.
So spaghetti squash.
In 22 weeks, it'll be a butternut squash.
(01:18):
A butternut squash.
That's right.
So 21 weeks, spaghetti squash.
At this point, the baby, the features are developing.
So it's starting to look like she is going to look.
It looks like a mini baby.
Love mini babies.
And no, but no eye color yet.
Really?
Nope.
21, there's no eye color.
(01:39):
21, nope.
None of that.
So that's where we are.
And this is going to be fun because we kind of played in the last couple of episodes, we played catch up and we, we've kind of covered week zero through 20 and now we're much more real time and we can start to do some of the segments that we talked about in episode one.
Yes.
(01:59):
So, so the first segment that we're going to do is one, I think, I don't know if I've talked to you about the name, but I came up with a cute graphic and if, if the video works, you'll see the graphics.
It is right now.
You're going to love it.
This, so this segment is going to be called the silver Fox mailbox.
I love it.
Whenever we have viewer mail or, or things like that or, or, or responses and that's what we really want.
(02:23):
And we've had some from the first couple of episodes already.
So I was very excited to see that.
So the first one we'll talk about, we got, I think a great, what turned into a great idea for a lullaby.
So Kate, one of the, one of the people who has listened to the podcast reached out and talked about a song that she has sung to her daughter.
(02:45):
Not as a lullaby, but the song from, from a great movie with Gene Kelly singing in the rain and the song is good morning, good morning, but she's singing it in the morning.
But I thought, you know, when you look, when you listen to the lyrics, it's another one.
I can imagine singing this to a child that has stayed up all night, right?
Like you try to, so I've played around with it and, and I, and I think it's going to become one of the lullabies that we will do to develop that.
(03:12):
I really liked that.
That was from Kate from Kate.
And then we have from Christine, one of our social media posts, we talked about parenting wins and parenting fails.
So she brought up, I think a win, which would be a big win is her.
Her daughter was the valedictorian at her high school graduation.
That's really big.
And that made me think about, so for you, you have, you were just on a college tour, right?
(03:37):
With your younger boy.
So this is a big thing for Kelly and for me, I'm sure is academic achievement.
How did you, how did you manage that when the reports cards started coming home?
How did you approach that as a dad?
Okay.
I have two versions of this cause I have two kids, not all kids learn alike.
(03:59):
Not all kids comprehend stuff the same way.
And one's not better than the other.
They're just different.
I know my school career was not as great as my older brothers, but we both ended up pretty, pretty good report cards.
You have to know your individual that you're dealing with.
You could never come from a place of you're not trying hard enough because you have no idea what kind of, what they're dealing with.
(04:26):
My oldest always dealt with some kind of learning, not disability, but challenges where my youngest has not.
So he's picked up things where as parents, you have, and you'll, you'll get into this.
My first son was bringing home homework and we were spending two hours on homework, right?
(04:47):
Now we thought, okay, this is normal.
When we got to talking to teachers, they were like, wait a minute, you shouldn't spend more than 45 minutes.
That's too much.
So you were going to the parent teacher conference and saying, yeah, two hours, you know, and they're like, wait a minute, two hours.
And we're like, well, we're, we're, we're teaching, you know, he's not getting, we then realized, oh, there's something there.
(05:10):
So I could be like, we can go into going, what are you doing?
Don't you listen in school and then make him feel worse.
So you have to come from a place of, wait a minute, is there something here that I'm missing?
Now, you'll know when your kid is just spacey and doesn't want to work and has all the tools that he's and he doesn't achieve them.
(05:30):
That's one thing.
But he wasn't showing that he was really frustrated and hard and he wanted to learn where my other one report cards were easy days.
They were like, oh, very good marital honor roll where the other one was like, Hey, you did great.
Let's get this.
You know, you have to kind of let them tell you what they need and you have to listen and go, okay, you know better than I do what you're feeling.
(05:58):
Right.
I think about it because I do like, you know, when I think about it, I will have high expectations.
Kelly, I know will have high expectations too.
She scares me all the time with the stuff that she knows, like stuff like that.
She's very, very bright.
But I do think about the idea that I know how I was as a kid, right?
(06:20):
The first thing I think about when I think, what's this going to be like is what I was like as a kid.
Like once I got into middle school, my goal was to get the best grades I could without ever doing any homework.
I mean, I literally had a bet on, I had a bet with my physics teacher in high school that I could get a B plus or better if, and never opened my book.
(06:44):
See, I can see that in you now.
I know that's you.
And I literally, he's like, okay, he put a piece of tape on my book and I did, I got a B plus.
And he paid me.
And how did you do that?
Just by notes and listening?
I paid attention in class and that was it.
You can retain.
I was, I was good.
Like physics and math and the science stuff.
I was not good with, I didn't have like biology a little bit or chemistry I really didn't like.
(07:07):
Yeah.
I was academically, I was, I was good.
Yeah.
So I know.
So my thing is we'll be judging, you know, for my father, it was whatever you did, you, you could have done better.
Right.
It didn't matter no matter what.
And that was, that was frustrating because I would, I would, I wasn't a slouch, but that's what I always got.
And I also had my brother who obviously was much older, had done very well academically.
(07:30):
So there was always that, like you got to do at least as well as Mike.
So I'm, I think about how am I going to really judge?
Because yeah, there's no guarantee that the kid is going to have the same talents or strengths.
And how do I know when they're really trying?
Because if somebody had really gotten me to try, I might've done even better.
You know, because there's a difference between being honestly frustrated with themselves because they can't get it.
(07:58):
That's when you have to realize going, this is beyond, I'm lazy.
Right.
And that's how, and that's when we looked at my son who you wouldn't know if he had a learning.
I mean, he's not, it's not.
It is just a different, it's just a different approach, right?
They just, right.
Yeah.
People don't like that.
That's one of the, like, I see that with, with Kelly, right.
(08:19):
She's even more like book learning oriented, like academic.
She took it to the next.
Yeah.
She's even more, more so like that.
And other people just aren't like that.
For me, I, I can't learn the same way.
And I used to think, Oh my God, I'm dumb.
Right.
I'm a dumb person.
I can't achieve what they can until I learned, Oh, wait a minute.
(08:42):
I can learn it this way, which is not the same.
But at the end of the day, we're going to get to the same, same place.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that expectation that it's this, there's only one path, right?
Right.
And that's, and that's when you said, how would I know?
You're going to know.
Yeah.
You're going to know your child.
First of all.
Yeah.
And you're going to know what they can achieve and how they, how they live.
(09:04):
So when they say to you, I'm trying, I can't, then you get, instead of going, well, try harder.
Don't go, stop watching TV.
Maybe you should go like, Oh, okay.
This is not sinking in.
Why?
Right.
Is there something, is there a barrier?
Is there a different way?
So I think to answer that, you will know, we'll see, we'll see, hopefully I will.
(09:24):
So that was from Christine, big win valedictorian at same daughter when she was very little.
This is a fail now or this was a fail when her daughter was very little, that they lost her for a little while.
And she was in the backyard in her Barbie house, but she was so small.
You couldn't see her through the window of the Barbie house.
(09:44):
But did you ever lose like, I can picture it in the tally, like left at a truck stop.
I'm sure.
I remember the old department store Kmart and they used to have just the racks.
Right.
And the clothes would just hang.
Yep.
Right.
And when they were little enough and you, and you'll go through this when they learn how to run and walking and all that good stuff and you put them down.
(10:06):
And one time we were shopping, I'm telling you, it's a, it's a millisecond.
I just, you take your eye off and all of a sudden you're looking at an empty stroller.
Right.
I can picture that.
You freak out.
That must be, your heart must drop.
The, your heart, your stomach, you start sweating, you start calling their names loud.
(10:30):
Yeah.
And he was sitting in one of the racks underneath, they're so small that the clothes are, are covering them.
And he's laughing.
That's funny.
And it's the worst feeling.
I can imagine.
I couldn't imagine the rock around the house.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a little bit, they're like, where is she?
They're a little enough.
And yeah, that would be something that's scary.
(10:51):
It made me think of what you just made me think of.
There was a place, I remember doing this to my mother and there was, I don't know if you will remember this in the Kmart Plaza.
There was a place, it was a clothing store called Riverboat fashion, Riverboat right up next to Rochester shoes, was it?
Yes, it was.
Next to Rochester shoes.
That's very good.
And, and I was there and they had the big round racks of clothes and I was little enough that I could get in there.
(11:16):
And it was like a fort.
I loved it.
So there's, yeah, I think, I don't know if my sisters were with us.
I was little and I got it and I was just hanging out and this was awesome.
And she was terrified and thinking I got out of the store.
I did.
Now that I remember, not my, my kids, but my brother who was younger than us, my mother had him at 40, 50 years ago.
(11:39):
One time he was missing and this is the scariest moment.
And I probably, once I say this, we'll probably make your decision of never owning this after you hear what I just, I'm going to say.
We couldn't find my brother.
Mike couldn't find him.
He was a little kid and he could go anywhere.
And somebody had to say, did we look in the pool and that was the worst five seconds to run in the backyard.
(12:05):
It was the scariest moment of my life because we had no idea what we were going to find and you couldn't keep this kid.
He wasn't around and all these bad feelings and all these bad thoughts come in your head in that moment that feels like it's eternity.
And we all looked in the pool and he went, oh, thank God.
(12:26):
But that moment was, that's where he's going to be.
That's where he is.
I know it.
I know it.
Yeah.
So, um, so yes, that's terrifying.
So that is a, I don't know if that's a fail or a heart attack.
I don't know what that is.
It's not a fail if they found her.
They did cause she was valedictorian.
So that's scary.
Yeah.
That, that, no doubt.
Did they take the dollhouse apart?
(12:48):
Did they just, they condemned it.
That's it.
That was my, now Kelly was talking to her about these and she said they, her family went on a trip to Paris when she was about four and her younger sister was about one and they lost, they lost her younger sister for a little while and somewhere a little while.
(13:12):
I don't know how long, I don't think it was very long, but yeah, she's like, oh yeah, we lost, we lost my sister.
But it feels forever.
That's, that's one about parenting that nobody probably, it probably happens to everybody at some time.
Nobody really talks about it because nobody's bragging about what I did.
It's a fail.
(13:32):
It's a fail on every aspect.
You lost your child?
Yeah.
Well, I remember back in the day when there was less laws and stuff, kids were just lost everywhere at the beach.
You ever go to like Green Lakes?
That's one of the things that's unique about our generation.
Now kids are like wrapped in bubble wrap.
They have helmets.
They have their phones.
You just call them.
(13:53):
They have their phones.
You can GPS.
They got tags.
They're low jacked.
Right.
Exactly.
Everybody knows where they are.
For us, it was, it's nine o'clock.
Do you know where your children are?
Right.
Remember the commercial?
Yes.
How bad was it?
Yeah.
Like Cyndi Lauper had to do a commercial to say, go find your children.
This is Bruce Springsteen.
Do you know?
(14:13):
That's so crazy.
But that's the thing because we had no ways to get a hold of that.
Yeah.
There was nothing.
And nobody.
The lights, it's dark out.
Do you know where your kids are?
It's really dark out and you haven't seen your kids since dinner.
If that.
But the funny thing is also, same brother.
Now he's in a suitcase.
Every year, us immigrants, we're very excited about 4th of July.
(14:35):
4th of July to us immigrants was huge.
It's a big thing.
Yeah.
It's huge.
So we used to go to Green Lakes.
If you live in this area, you know where it is.
If not, it's a park.
It's a state park.
And we go swimming and barbecue.
We spend the whole day.
Yeah.
We would do this from the moment we were, I immigrated to America to like last year.
(14:59):
We've, we've, we've kept the tradition going.
And one year we were all in the, in the water and this is the best, I mean, best thing you can imagine is we're all playing in the water and all we hear is the parents of Mike, whatever the last name, please come to whatever your son is waiting for.
(15:21):
Your son is waiting.
Oh my God.
So yeah, back in the seventies and eighties, we just, there was.
And we were worried about member of the big, don't get kidnapped.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Cause we just, you just lost kids everywhere.
That happened.
There were, there were those things.
And I thought, I always thought it was like crazy.
Like with my parents, like there was the field days in the summer firemen field day.
(15:44):
We could never go.
Nope.
And I never understood why.
Well, then I found out later because there were girls, young girls abducted from those field days.
Yeah.
It was, it was not good.
So the, the other thing that we had for, we had Christine, Christine, and then the other one we had for a bow in our friend, Dave, Dave said that his big win is getting his 17 year old to shower now.
(16:11):
Oh, Dave.
When I think about that, you have two boys.
Is that a thing?
No.
None of my family.
Yeah.
No kidding.
We were, we, I had them on cologne and underarm deodorant at two months.
No, I've been so lucky.
My, my kids.
Yeah.
There's no fighting about showers.
(16:31):
Maybe, maybe when they were like real young and they were like, you were stopped them from playing a game, a video game or watching Elmo or something.
They, you know, at night you give them a bath or something.
They give you a hard time.
But as like 17, no, I mean, I don't remember that being a thing either.
So Dave, it's, it's your fault.
It's yeah.
It's Dave.
(16:52):
And Dave will be on, Dave will be on the podcast.
He's one of our guests.
So we can, we can actually yell at him.
We can ask him about this.
Why is your kid?
Why are your children filthy?
Dave?
Why?
But that's a win for him.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to smell them.
And when he gets it, I take, you got to take the wins.
And then the last one we had was from another friend of the podcast, Chris.
(17:13):
Learning that you were born in Italy.
I wanted to know, are you, could you speak Italian?
Are you fluent?
As you know, I speak to my parents only in Italian.
They've never learned how to speak English.
So that would make it.
They know, they know how to nod and smile.
Yes.
They smile.
They, they, they fake them.
They fake their way through the American dream.
(17:35):
But I will say this.
I do not speak fluent Italian because what I was brought up was with my dialect from my Sicilian, which is from Palermo.
And then even a language less than Palermo is from our town dialect.
Right.
So yes, I speak Italian, but it's more of a Sicilian dialect.
(17:58):
It's very different.
Very different.
If you learned, if you, if you get the Babel or you get the Rosetta Stone, it has nothing to do.
Be like, why are you speaking Spanish to me?
So in my family, my grandparents, they learned a little, but it was my parents would speak to them in Italian.
So my dad would speak to his mother in Italian.
(18:19):
Sure.
And, and then, but they would still, you know, she would still speak to us in English.
Okay.
But it wasn't, it wasn't great.
So they, they, they went back to their language when they were speaking to each other.
Yes.
But anytime they were talking to the siblings, the nephews, the nieces, the grandkids, it was all English.
Yeah, that was it.
Yeah.
That's because they didn't want you.
They wanted to kind of.
(18:40):
I think they didn't want us to understand what they were saying.
They were secrets.
But no, I think they made it a point of, I think because of the time that they came to the country, it was very important that you, that my father learned English.
Right.
Being the first generation here, they had to learn English.
They had to do that stuff, but they still, there was the Metagon thing where they still talked at home.
(19:03):
They spoke Italian.
I know they had to, we had to go through that, but I think it, I think it watered down our culture.
Our kids don't speak Italian.
You didn't learn Italian.
No, I'm not teaching.
And I come from a, I come from an immigration story and I still didn't teach my kids Italian.
I've tried very hard before we went to like for the year before we went to Italy for the first time I tried to learn.
(19:28):
I had Rosetta stone and I, you know, I, I understand more.
I still remember stuff cause I would, I could pick it up from my, my, you know, my family little bits here and there, but they were dialect as well.
But from Southern Italy, my brother-in-law on the other hand, he is multilingual.
He has learned it.
He speaks.
(19:48):
I don't even want to talk to him.
He's cause he speaks Italian.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
And I'm turning around with Sicilian stuff at him, you know, and he's looking at me going.
He's done.
He's really good.
He's good.
So there we are.
Those are our first.
Yeah.
Really.
And anyway, comment on our social stuff, questions, ideas.
This, we want to, we want to tell your stories.
(20:10):
Yeah.
Because it's easier than making up our own.
The next up, I know you've been waiting for it.
Can't wait.
Check, please.
Check, please.
So check, please.
The whole idea is I'm going to keep a running total of what we spend on my daughter.
And then when she graduates high school, I'm going to give her the bill itemized.
(20:31):
So I keep, do you think it ends as high school?
No, I just figured I'm going to try to draw a line in the sand.
Hey, we're into you for 22 million.
And really this is what it is so far.
I'm trying to organize it and keep track.
So I broke it up into a few categories.
Okay, this would be interesting.
So the categories are total spending so far.
(20:52):
Do you want to guess?
We're very preliminary.
From zero to now, right?
Yep.
Just up till now.
I'm going to say a couple hundred dollars.
The grand total so far, $370.08. We're very close.
A little bit over budget there.
A little bit over budget.
And I broke it down.
So we have categories are books.
(21:12):
Doggy books.
A lot of dog books.
Pharmacological stuff.
Vitamins and things.
Yeah.
Home goods.
Home goods.
You got to have home goods.
Hardware.
Sure.
And equipment.
Just general equipment.
Podcast equipment.
Not podcast equipment.
We would be way over $300 for that.
So books is the number one category.
(21:33):
$147 on books.
Got some readers in the house.
But I'm so excited because I finally finished the last dog book.
Yes, you were talking about.
And I am now in the book that everyone is supposed to read, What to Expect When You're Expecting.
Oh, yes.
Of course.
Obviously, I start at the beginning.
And it starts at the beginning.
And I'm going through.
I'm like, I wish I had known all of this.
(21:54):
When we had all those scares, I'd have been like, shut up.
Make me a sandwich.
Exactly.
I read about this.
Relax.
I know all about this.
So absolutely.
I'm excited to be in that.
But yeah, a lot of money on books.
Second equipment at about $100.
Around $100 on home goods.
And then the others are kind of home goods.
What do you like for the bed?
(22:17):
Yeah, like the pregnancy pillow.
Things like that.
And it's almost.
I didn't bring the breakdown.
But the vast majority of it is all on Amazon.
It's all Amazon stuff.
So that is, check please, $370.38. So at this date, episode four, we are $370.08. Don't forget the cents.
(22:42):
Because this makes no sense at all.
All the money you're going to be throwing around.
No cents or eight cents.
That's cool.
Yeah, so that's it.
You're going to look at that number and go, oh.
That was nothing.
I remember back when it was.
$300.
I'm going to throw that away in the toilet.
My brother was on a transatlantic cruise home.
So he hadn't heard any of these podcasts until yesterday.
(23:06):
He's catching up.
And I talked to him today for the first time.
And the first thing he brought up was, have you bought the $1,000 bassinet yet?
And I went, no, not yet.
The Eddie Bauer.
That's the one I saw.
The Eddie Bauer scroller.
Oh my God.
It's all coming.
So there you are.
Check please.
Next segment.
(23:27):
This one is one that I think is going to be a lot of fun.
We're going to have to figure out as we go.
Can't wait.
And that is Crash Test Daddy, where we test out some of the different baby and parenting products that we're going to have.
I feel this is where I earn my paycheck.
This is going to be, I think this is going to be fun.
So we've got this time, it is called the Ergo Baby.
(23:51):
Ergo Baby.
Because that's the brand.
And it's an embrace cozy newborn carrier.
It is $80 on Amazon.
And it's one of those Papoose things.
Papoosh.
So what I want to do is, we're going to have Carlo.
What?
I'm going to give you the instructions.
Excuse me?
I'm going to give you the instructions.
(24:12):
And I want you to figure out how to put this thing on.
Okay.
Oh my God.
If you guys could see this.
It is.
Okay.
I'm going to read the Chinese one.
Good.
So, can you hold this?
Is there any way I can get you to work with me here?
(24:35):
Because I need to see this.
Here, let me get this.
Okay.
I'm going to.
You're going to.
This is going to be.
So here we are.
Carlo is going to try this out.
(24:56):
Okay.
I think you got it.
So wait a minute.
I'm going to be.
This will be like one of those things.
It's like a Friday night board game where you have to tell somebody how to do something.
Okay.
Number one.
So I got this.
I think that is the way you start.
I got this like this.
Yep.
And I make this tight.
(25:18):
As you pull.
Yep.
Because that's how the baby would slide out and.
Baby will slide.
Now.
Then you're going to take.
So those go across your shoulder.
So do.
No, no.
So go.
So the one on your right hand.
You're going to go over your right shoulder.
This should be facing.
That should probably be facing out.
(25:39):
Oh, and also that thing.
So that thing.
Yes.
Because then this thing flops up.
Right.
Okay.
So by now that your child is has scurried away.
Okay.
Wait, hold on a minute.
Yes.
The baby's crying, right?
Right.
(25:59):
I'm freaking out.
Yes.
Hold on.
Shut up.
We're getting married.
Okay.
So now I take these.
Yes.
And I'm going to put them over.
And then they crisscross back there.
And they crisscross like a bra.
Yes.
Like a bra.
So I'm going to do that.
Now.
How do I?
Now they connect into those clippies there.
(26:21):
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So now.
So you're going to have to make that.
There you go.
This.
And this.
This is fantastic.
There you go.
Look at that.
You're getting it.
Okay.
(26:42):
This is fantastic.
Oh, no.
There is a clip.
It's just further up on that thing.
You got to.
You got to slide it down.
There you go.
Clip it here.
Now.
I'm going to take this.
This side.
Yes.
(27:04):
I'm so glad that you're the one that has to do this and not me.
Okay.
Now I got this.
Okay.
There you go.
You got to go.
(27:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
There you go.
That's it.
Get your little clippy.
Slide the clippy down.
Yes.
This is fantastic.
Now.
I got this.
Clip this up here.
All you really have to do.
Slide it down.
There you go.
Clip it in.
(27:46):
And we clip it in.
That's it.
I feel like.
We are secure.
I feel like when I'm on a flight and they're giving the instructions.
And always adjust your mask before saving your child.
Now.
Now.
Go get the baby.
Okay.
Now you got the baby.
I got the baby.
I got my daughter.
And I assume.
Yes.
And it just.
She's.
(28:06):
That's it.
And then.
But now.
See now.
The bottom strap.
I think.
This thing.
You got to cinch up.
Because that's what keeps.
Yeah.
Otherwise the kid's just going to slide out the front.
And now you're ready to jump out of the airplane.
Fantastic.
Well done.
That is beautiful.
(28:27):
That's great.
Okay.
I think you did a great job.
I've never seen this before in my life.
You did better than I would have done.
And I was looking at this and still confused.
I did it with a hoodie.
That's it.
So that is.
Yeah.
That is the.
Can I do the rest of the show with the baby?
If you want to.
You can.
Let's see if we can sit down.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's an interesting idea.
Yeah.
Let's give it a shot.
(28:47):
Okay.
Let's see if I can.
Okay.
So that is the Ergo Baby Embrace Cozy Newborn Carrier.
How does it feel?
It's okay.
I just.
It was not the baby.
That's it.
Is the baby facing the other way?
Or am I suffocating it?
I think.
Did I kill the baby?
I don't know.
Well, let's see.
(29:08):
Have I killed the baby?
This shows the baby either way.
Okay.
All right.
The baby could be facing you.
Because they do turn their heads.
Yes.
This is.
Or it could be out the other way.
And then as they get older, you can do it forward and have the legs.
Legs sticking out.
Legs hanging out.
Yes.
So right now, you either can go this way or if you want the baby to be part of the world.
(29:28):
Facing the world.
You can face it this way.
There you go.
The legs are cozy.
And as Frank said, as they get older.
The legs can fit outside.
There it is.
Okay.
So that is.
That was fun.
That is our first.
That is our first.
That was.
Our first crash test daddy.
So what do you think?
I think.
I think.
I mean.
It seems like it'll be not.
(29:49):
You know, Kelly tried it on immediately.
And I was like, how does this like?
Yeah.
And you know, I think that it's going to be good.
We actually got it early in an effort to.
She's going to start wearing it.
To get the dogs used to.
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the doll.
Great idea.
So.
Now, is this something that is meant to be by yourself to do it?
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Because it was kind of tough.
It was kind of tough.
I mean.
I don't know.
Like, I think.
I mean, it's possible I did it.
It doesn't say that it's a team sport to put it on.
It better be.
But it looked like.
It certainly would be.
I know.
I helped.
It was tough.
I helped her put it on.
Yeah.
And I did it by myself.
When we tried.
You did.
I was.
So.
I hope the video was close or not.
All for the.
All for just the.
The entertainment of our.
(30:29):
Our fans.
You were laughing at me.
It's fantastic.
And for my entertainment.
I'm kind of proud of what I just did.
I'm going to readjust the cameras.
That is our.
Inaugural.
Crash Test Daddy.
So.
The.
The next thing.
The.
The next segment.
This is another one.
Inaugural.
Segment.
Is book report.
Book report.
We're here for book report.
So.
(30:50):
The book report.
This title is.
Good dog.
Happy baby.
Preparing your dog for the arrival of your child.
So it is 4.4 stars on on Amazon.
It's about 14 dollars.
The author's name is Michael.
Wombacher.
(31:11):
Michael Wombacher.
Published in 2015.
Of the.
Books that I have read so far and I've read many.
About the dog.
I think this is.
is the best one.
What I like about it is, first of all, I agree with this guy's approach.
Like this guy has a dog trainer.
He is relevant to everything else I've ever learned about how you train and take care of dogs.
(31:36):
Gotcha.
And the outline of what you mean, what he's saying that some of them, like the last book, it was just completely like, Oh, the pack thing doesn't, you know, the pack mentality with animals has all been proven wrong.
Horseshit.
They operate that way.
I think, but anyhow, what I like about it is not, you know, not a huge, not a huge read, but it breaks it down.
(32:00):
He breaks it down into 12 steps of how you, first of all, evaluate your dog.
So understanding, okay, when this happens, what does your dog do?
And kind of helps you to categorize your dog is, is your dog going to be really Is your dog going to require a little bit of training or is your dog going to need to be put down, right?
Like, Oh God, you're going to get rid of them.
(32:21):
Right.
So he, you know, it's first assess the dog and then how, okay, how do you, how do you train dog B to, to get better, to, to be a dog a, and I think, you know, very tactical, easy to understand this.
I think of the ones that I will review is the best one.
So I'm going to assume there's, there's ideas of what to do in their practices and stuff, right?
(32:43):
And what you've read with the other books, this seems like something that makes more sense to you and your dogs, I think, because you have to take your dogs in into play.
The second book, and we'll do a review there.
The other books were either very similar to this, but less, I think this was like a system which made sense to me, right?
Okay.
This is what you do first.
(33:03):
It works for your assess.
Yeah.
Assess what your dogs are doing.
Then do this, do this, do this.
And it also called out throughout the, throughout the steps, it called out the potential pitfalls.
This is, you want to do this because this could happen, right?
Like, so it was very logical, simple, easy to understand, and gave you things to do to get yourself.
(33:26):
So you're comfortable and confident and it's an easy, it's easy transition.
So you recommend that book?
I would of the ones I'll do the reviews on the others at some point, but I think knowing now I would have read, there's one other one that I would say.
Those two are worth it, but this one, if you only do one, I think this is the one good dog, happy baby, preparing your dog for the arrival of your child.
(33:50):
And it's a cute picture of a little baby.
It is adorable.
It's, it is a scary thought of animals with your child, a baby, because you have no idea how the animal is going to react because up to this point, they're your babies, right?
They are the only, you're taking care of them.
You're mom and daddy to them.
(34:10):
I think in your case, I think you might be more worried about, because your one dog is so big that even with love, it could be dangerous, right?
With weight and size.
And a dog like, you know, one time and the only time, but Watson is a big dog.
But I remember one time I didn't know what I had done, but all of a sudden we're in the kitchen and Watson looks at me and growls at me and when an 85 pound dog growls at you, no matter how experienced you are, I was like, what the, and I, I yelled at him.
(34:47):
And then I looked down on the floor and I realized I had stepped on the fur of his tail and yanked a chunk of fur out of his tail.
So you were the best.
I was the bad guy, right?
But a little kid, you know, a kid, a little kid grabs you with those nails, right?
Like the wrong thing happens in the dog reacts naturally.
(35:08):
It could be bad.
But I think we talked about this too, maybe episode one or two.
I think that, I think they know it's a child.
I don't know what it is.
Animals.
They, they must feel like this is, I have to protect this.
I think it's not the same as maybe you or me to them.
I don't know.
I don't, maybe, maybe I'm wrong.
I don't, I think, I think they probably, I think they probably do have, have those instincts.
(35:33):
Like they're, they can't do like what I like.
They see this, not innocent, but like, I don't know what the word.
You see videos online of these dogs that are big, you know, pit bulls and big dogs and they're playing with the babies very gently and all that stuff.
And I would love it if we could get there, you know, if we can get there, that'd be great, but I just want to make sure we set them up for, I think it's going to be fine.
(35:57):
But does Kelly have any kind of a thought over more than you do about this?
Not, no, I think, I think she, I think she just wants to be prepared.
She's had, so the dog she had when she was growing up was a dog that was rehomed because of a child.
Oh, then she had a dog before we were together that she got from a friend who rehomed their dog because of a, because of a child.
(36:23):
I remember.
So she just doesn't, she's seen it happen and doesn't, because it's, it's a horrible thing for the dog.
So I think she just wants to, to, you know, make sure that's not going to happen.
I don't think it's going to be, you know, I think you guys will be fine.
I think we're going to be okay.
Yeah.
But if better, better safe than sorry, somebody's out there that is going through that, that book helped you a little bit, right?
(36:44):
It helped you out.
No, it was, this is a worthwhile read.
I would, I would read it.
I don't know if I would read for one, maybe, or maybe I'd start with the one you've moved on to start with the one about the baby, but that's it.
So, so, but yeah, but there'll be more.
Like I said, I just started with another book.
I've got a stack of books.
So that's it.
That's a thumbs up.
Like it's a four, four out of five duckies, duckies, radlers.
(37:06):
We're going to come out with, that can be a thing.
It can be a rat that you guys get.
Yeah.
Four, four, four, four out of five rattles.
I like that.
So yeah, good book.
Next segment really is, is the one where we just talk about what happened, what just happened, what's up, what just happened this week.
Okay.
So, but the, the, the thing I wanted to talk about, you know, we talked about in the last episode, finding out that it's a girl and the very next thing that you think about is names, right?
(37:35):
I was talking with Kelly about it and I, you know, and I'm like, well, I'm going to, we're going to talk about names.
And she, she reminded me very nicely that I am not allowed to share our name choice for being the internet and that you people could be crazy.
I'm not supposed to share that.
So I feel bad that I can't share.
But they understand.
(37:55):
I think people understand.
I know, but I, so I, but I want, I still, I feel bad.
So I want to make it fun for them.
I want to make it fun for the, for our listeners.
So what we should do is let our listeners name the baby.
So I'm going to want to use a name.
I'm not going to always want to say the Kelly and the baby or Kelly and the bill, the baby or the baby.
(38:15):
So I think we're going to ask everybody, please give us some ideas.
You, you've gotten to know me a little bit, you know, now it's a little girl.
I can share the name that it almost was.
This name is off the, this is, this, this, this can't be used if they vote for it and they want it to be used as our name, but it won't be used.
(38:37):
This is not going to be the name, but it was going to be Olivia.
Love that name.
And Olivia is a pretty name.
What I think is fascinating is I had no idea, but Olivia is a very popular name.
Too early.
And I didn't know this, but my sister, I was talking with my sister one morning and we're talking about names and she's very invested in the names.
(39:03):
And for some reason thinks she has a say at one point, like, she's like, well, I, I gave you ideas when you named my sister at home or sister away, my local sister, Paula, and we're talking about it.
She's like, well, I gave, I got to suggest names for, for, uh, for Watson, for the dog and I'm like, well, yeah, you did, but you'll notice that none of your names got picked and we went in a different direction, but we're talking about, and I mentioned Olivia and she's like, oh, Olivia.
(39:36):
Yeah.
And then she goes and she searches and Olivia is, has been like the number one girl name for the last three or four years and in the top five for the last decade, really?
And I've been, I don't know.
And I don't know not one, I have an Olivia, an employee who's an Olivia in Erie, Pennsylvania.
(40:00):
And other than that, no, Olivia is in my life.
And about when the, about the time we were having these conversations, I went and got a haircut and the girl who cuts my hair for, for many, many years, a great, a great girl, Danielle.
She has, she has four kids.
They're all named Olivia.
But I asked her like, is Olivia?
She's like, my daughter has 22 Olivia's in her class.
Like they're everywhere.
(40:22):
So apparently we're already lousy with Olivia's.
So Olivia got eliminated.
And which I was, I was okay with, I think we landed on a great name, but you can do even better.
So I'm very interested to see what you want to call.
Do you just want to get rid of Olivia?
Let's not even do it as a fake name.
I'm okay.
If you vote, if the, if the, if the people speak and they want Olivia on the table, guys, Olivia is okay.
(40:48):
Olivia is on the table, but, uh, that's a, you know, I think it'd be fun.
I knew we weren't having a daughter when we couldn't come up with a name.
My wife and I were like, do you like the, it was kind of like everybody's named Bella and I was like, and we knew Nick, you know, we knew that right off the bat, we're like, you know, we're not having a girl because we're not even, we don't even know what the, not even entertaining.
(41:14):
Yeah.
We're not even in it.
So when you knew, did you, I know you waited to find out that they were boy, the day of the labor head.
So you obviously didn't have a name, but you had ideas.
Like how did you come to your two boys name?
So we went to traditional first son was my father's name.
I didn't want to go Carlo jr.
(41:35):
No, I didn't want to do that.
So my first one was my father's first name, which is Natalia.
So that's my son.
And his middle name is my wife's father's name.
Okay.
Thomas.
So Tali Thomas, Tali Thomas, Tali Thomas Russo.
Yes.
It's a good name.
Yeah.
Strong name.
Yeah.
So good name.
So when we had our second, we went to my wife's side of the family.
(41:59):
Funny story here.
My last name Russo.
I'm Carlo Russo.
My wife's family partner.
Mother's side is also Russo.
My mother-in-law is Russo.
Okay.
So Russo is the Jones and Smiths of Italy.
So that's not a big deal that you find two people named Russo, but her grandfather was Nicholas Russo.
(42:22):
Okay.
So when we named my second son, Nick, we both have Natalia Russo, which is his, and then Nicholas Russo, you know, because generally you don't have the same last name.
Yeah, absolutely.
So that's what we went.
If it was a female, right.
I never, then it would have been my grandmother.
Her name was Graciella, which is grace.
(42:44):
Graciella.
Okay.
But that's a pretty name.
You don't hear it.
It is a pretty name, but it never stuck with us.
So we're like, it's not going to happen.
Right.
That's interesting.
It's funny because when I was young, people would ask you what your father's name is.
And I was embarrassed of my own name because I didn't know any Carlos, right?
There was no Carl.
There was Carl's.
(43:05):
There wasn't a lot of Carlos at the time either.
So Carlo, I didn't, everybody just didn't know my name.
I didn't like it.
So then when they asked me my father's name, I really didn't want to say his name.
I'm like, if you're having trouble with Carlo, you're really going to have a field day with Natalia, right?
So I used to call my father, Nick.
So all the school stuff that would come to my house, it'd be parents of Nick Russo.
(43:29):
So I always had this name in my mind for some reason, Nick Russo, Nick Russo.
That's interesting.
And then now I have a son named Nick Russo.
So it's weird how it works.
How that kind of, because Natalia and Nick are not the same.
So, so with your, I know initially I thought your name was a short for John Carlo, but you're just Carlo.
I'm just Carlo.
Okay.
Okay.
(43:49):
And the middle names were my father-in-law, Thomas, and then Nicholas took my, my name as a middle name.
So he's Nicholas Carlo.
With the, with the girl names, obviously Olivia got kicked out, but the family name thing for us, I would have liked.
So my mom was Pauline.
(44:09):
Okay.
I was like, so I said, what about, you know, I said, what about Pauline?
Kelly was like, did not like that and enough where I would, I would have liked to have done that, but my mother hated her name.
Like she, she didn't like her name anyway.
So I'm like, okay, that's not going to happen.
(44:31):
My grandmothers were Marianne and, and then my, my, my, my dad's mom was Lucia, but you know, it's cute.
Could be, could be, but she was such a miserable woman.
The last thing I want to do, like she's onto a baby.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
(44:51):
She was awful.
So that wasn't going to happen.
And then for Kelly, it was, you know, there wasn't a family name that really resonated.
So anyway, so now we landed on whatever, whatever you say.
So at some point, we're going to put a post out on social and just give us your name away, give us your ideas.
(45:12):
We'll vote and that'll be, that will be the baby's name.
And that will be now for just a little girl's life.
I'm going to, if this podcast is successful, I'm going to be calling her by the wrong name.
Kelly and the baby.
Now, did your, now you have an older brother and younger brother.
Did you get constantly called Pete?
(45:33):
Yes, you did.
So that was, I would, I, I got them.
I was kind of, they were all my father, my Frank, I only have two.
And I screw it up.
I mean, it's only Nick or Natalia.
And I'm like, if you screw it up, you're going to be called Watson.
I mean, your problem is you got, you got dog names and podcast names you're going to throw in there.
(45:59):
Oh yeah.
I'm going to be completely confused.
That'll be a no.
So, so you've decided you and Kelly have decided we have, we have decided wow, big, big step.
Yep.
I got to listen to the conversation, Kelly talking with her mother and discussing the name choice.
Now I don't know.
I don't even know.
Is this a family name or is this a brand new addition name to the, to the, I will say it has similarities to some of the names we have discussed, but no, it is not a family name, but I think it's a, I think it's very pretty.
(46:32):
My brother broke the tradition when he had his daughter to not have a traditional family name.
Right.
And you think it's a big deal.
It's not.
The other thing that's difficult with a girl name is, as I said, my cousin, three girls, my, my other cousin, a girl, my brother, two girls.
(46:53):
There's a lot of girls that they've taken all the good ones that go with our last name, with our surname.
The funny thing I know really, you have to think of the name, the whole name.
We were at, I remember Trina was pregnant and we were at dinner and our name, for some reason we were just, like I said, having a hard time with a female name.
And I was like, is it going to go to Graciela's?
(47:14):
Am I going to have a baby grace?
I'm like, I still wasn't sold in that.
And for some reason, the popular name of the time, other than Olivia was Bella.
Everybody's Bella.
My sister's granddaughter is a Bella.
There you are.
So, and I thought I can live with Bella.
I can live with, and then I get, I get a phone call as we're eating dinner and we're kind of sold into this name for a couple days now.
(47:40):
My younger brother calls me and says, Hey, I just got a dog.
I named it Bella.
That's right.
He had a Bella.
Yeah, that's right.
And I'm like, well, that's off the table.
I'm not naming the baby after the dog.
So he took my Bella.
So that's a, so we didn't have to worry about it.
And it came out anyways.
So we'll be looking for names, the contest.
(48:01):
We'll do a little contest.
And then the name that we do pick, we'll send them out a, Oh yeah.
I ate t-shirt.
Okay.
Do we can do that?
Absolutely.
Just a limited edition edition of Frank and I are the only ones that have them.
That's right.
The GHDC podcast.
Sure.
So we'll get that.
That'd be our first giveaway of the podcast.
(48:22):
There you go.
That sounds fun.
Awesome.
So the other thing that happened for this week for what just happened is we were talking, we were going through the podcast that we did last week.
Okay.
And one of the things that we talk about, it was that the non-invasive prenatal testing, right?
So the, and the whole thing with that is it's looking for chromosomal abnormalities.
(48:46):
So we did it the first time and it came back inconclusive.
So we had to do it again.
Second time, everything came back good.
So we were talking about that Kelly, while we're talking about it says, well, I didn't say anything at the time.
Oh God.
But the most typical result when there's no result, when you do the testing, typically it's because there is an abnormality and we redid it when we redid it and it, everything came back good.
(49:19):
That was, you know, a period of, oh, you know, it was like two weeks.
So for two weeks, she knew, she knew that and did not tell me.
And I wasn't sure how to process that because I thought, okay.
So for two weeks, she's thinking there's something wrong.
(49:41):
And she didn't tell me.
And it bothered me a little bit.
I thought I felt bad.
I should know.
I felt bad less that it was, I should know and more that I should be sharing that burden with her, whether it's a real burden or not.
Don't spare me.
(50:02):
Don't don't spare me.
I, my feeling, I hate the idea of she already has to go all of the physical stuff, like pretty much on her own.
Right?
Like I can't have this baby for her.
Everything's happening to her.
I can be supportive, but she's doing the work.
She's doing literally the heavy lifting, everything she's doing.
(50:25):
So it, I think it made me feel bad.
I understand why that she's thinking, you know, that it's probably nothing and we're just going to do it again and it'll be fine.
But when she said, and I don't think when she told me, I don't think she thought that I was going to be bothered by it and I didn't, I don't know if I even let on because it wasn't until later on when I talked about what we're going to talk about on this podcast.
(50:50):
I was like, yeah, you know that, you know, that bothered me a little.
And, and it just made me, it made me think about throughout this whole process, you know, I, I think it's worth us having a conversation and talking about, don't spare me, don't spare me.
And secrets are bad, right?
Like they're just going to hurt.
They're going to eat somebody up, right?
(51:12):
Yeah.
Why, why, why put that more on?
Yeah.
I like it because it's easier when it's out there.
If it had gone, it went, it went the right way.
That's a good thing.
But if it went the wrong way, I don't know if it saved me two weeks of knowing, but now you have to think about why didn't you let me share this with you?
Like, yeah, you know, I don't want to be, you know, this is a learning, this is a learning thing for everybody.
(51:36):
This is not, this is her first child, obviously like you, she already experienced a little bit of fear and saw you react to that.
So that's a good point.
You know, she already saw me turn into a mess.
She already saw the low end of what your feelings are and how much you want this so bad, where you even said to yourself, when you heard the good news, you ran out of the room because you didn't want to hear anything else.
(52:04):
It'd be those pancakes.
So at the same time, is she sparing?
No, she's probably thinking, listen, if it's out there, it's going to come out.
We're both going to deal with it anyways.
Right.
And I think if I'm going to throw something out there that is probably nothing anyways, do I really want to set the world on fire right now?
(52:24):
Right.
I do think, yeah, I do think that also for her in that moment, yes, that's the most likely that that's that, that happens.
But also we really don't know, like there isn't anything definitive.
So why share it?
And I, and I understand that too.
And I didn't, this is helpful.
It's very, this is almost like therapy because I think this is what the show is.
(52:49):
Well, because you do point out, yeah, I just, we just did a whole podcast on how I was a mess when this stuff was going on and yeah, and I didn't hide it well.
So that makes me feel, that makes me feel a little bit better.
You have to understand that if something eventually is good and bad, it's, you're going to have to deal with it.
Right.
So it's a learning process for everybody and you're never going to figure this out until our dying day of what we're doing.
(53:17):
Sometimes we, it's a hit or miss, you know, it's hit or miss.
Should I've done this differently?
Do I, do I do it?
And next time maybe she'll, if something comes up, she'll take that conversation you had and go, let me tell him right now.
Yeah.
Or next time it happens, she does it again.
You also understand, listen, it was something that she dealt with.
She made a decision that.
This was not done thoughtlessly.
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Yeah, no, not at all.
Right.
So, yeah, so there was that.
And then the thing that I thought was more funny was Kelly had been talking
about reaching out to like some of her family members because she feels like
she hasn't had, she didn't grow up with where there was like a little cousin or
a younger or a much younger sister where she feels like she has a lot of
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experience around children and, but she has, you know, other cousins and
friends and stuff like that.
So she was talking about, about that.
And I said, well, you know, when you think about it, you live, you've lived in me for a while now and living with me is very much like living with a child.
Right.
I say things that you think are completely inappropriate.
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I, I, I have, I have biological issues that you think are disgusting.
You can't watch what you want on TV cause you gotta watch what I want.
And a surprising amount of what we watch is cartoons.
I'm like, I'm just like, I'm going down the, I'm going down the list of, you know, the, the, you know, I never want what you plan on making for dinner.
I like, there's, there's all those things.
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I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you basically are living with a child.
Like you have a lot of, you have a lot of experience.
You're always using words that I don't understand.
Like I'm always asking questions.
So, you know, I think you're like, you're good, right?
Like you're, you're all set.
That is one of the things that I do like about our relationship is this is another insight into my, my wonderful wife, Kelly is Kelly has two laughs.
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She has her practiced laugh, or which is, I found out later in meeting some of her extended family, it's her father's laugh.
Oh, right.
She has a laugh is that, and she has a laugh that is her real laugh.
And my favorite thing is to get the real is to get the real, the genuine.
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Oh yeah.
That's what I love.
Cause I know, I know not everybody gets, I see that you get right.
But I think I see that.
And I, I, I love getting the real laugh.
So when, when I say stuff like that, she just starts laughing and I'm like, okay.
Like that, that's, that's when you can tell you're a partner, right?
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Like that's my, that's, that's who I want to make happy.
That was a big thing in the, that was a big thing in the, in the beginning was
figuring out getting her to, I knew this is like, this is clearly a person I'm
very interested in and I'm attracted to she's yeah, we, we have great
conversations, but finding out kind of the real person when she relaxed a
(56:23):
little bit and I started to get the real laugh, okay, like this is who, this is who
we used to walk every day and used to talk when you guys were dating and this
is nothing that, oh my God, this is a fresh dating month, two months, whatever.
When you are supposed to have questions and, and figure people out and we would, you would, you would bring that up.
(56:44):
I got to get to the real.
Yeah.
I just felt like it wasn't there.
And then one, one day it broke through all of a sudden there was the real laugh and I'm like, oh, okay.
I got like, it's like, you can see inside there, whoever they are, then, you know, I mean, you feel like, okay, now she trusts me enough to relax.
And so she was amused by, so she's at this point, she's, she's not concerned, but she's questioning, like, I haven't been really around kids.
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Do I know what I'm going to, she's thinking now, like very tactically, like, how is this going to work overnight?
Like the baby's going to be in the room with us.
What do you do?
Leo, my sister in Texas is a, is a great reason.
One is a great resource.
Talk to her.
She's got family members.
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She's getting the, all the textbook stuff and she wants practical experience of, and I think a lot of this, a lot of this stuff also falls into place when it happens.
It's natural, you're going to figure it out.
You know what I mean?
Cause half the time for the first couple of weeks, you're going to be doing everything without sleep.
So there's going to be chaos in your mind.
There's going to be lack of sleep, lack of thought, lack of, you're not gonna put a sentence together.
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The only thought is the baby, you know, feed, clean, keep everything alive.
Keep this child alive and you figure it out in your worst times of when you're weak and hungry and you're eating patterns are all over the place.
And you do the best work.
That's when, like you figure it out, like, oh yeah.
And then when you get your sleep in, when the baby starts getting into a little pattern, then you're like, you can breathe and go, oh, okay, we got that out.
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We did the whole, we figured it out.
I mean, the first scary part of everything, when the baby finally comes to you is how do I bring this home without crashing into anything?
My car is going to be, you know, you're going to be driving 10 miles an hour and everything that you see around you is aiming at you in your mind.
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This car is going to hit me.
This person's going to hit me.
You know, everything, I'm going to get a flat tire.
So that's going to be your first initial freak out when you walk out of that hospital, right?
Baby's not even home yet.
No, it comes together.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
Well, once again, this is a fun one.
Yeah.
We covered a lot of ground.
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So this will be someday that could be worth a lot of money.
Let's do a timeframe.
How long do we want to do this?
It's right now.
This'll come out.
So this'll come, this'll come out in a couple of weeks.
We could say that when we were recording for the week of Christmas.
Okay.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
So you'll have basically all of the rest of November and all, and some of December.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Okay.
So you give time to, to build up some people do a, we'll do a post with what we're looking for and then you guys can submit your answers.
That's crushing it.
That's killing it.
We're going to grab it.
Okay.
All right.
Oh yeah.
This will be interesting to see what people think.
So it's all going to be Olivia.
Kelly is going to have a, a baby name pretty soon.
Kelly's baby name.
Francine.
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Do you want something funny or do you, I think it's all, it's all up to them.
But it's what is it?
What's his name?
Mark Hamill.
He had, he had his fans name, his dog.
And then came Barkham.
Come up with something fun.
I'm all for it.
Okay.
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This is the Gray Hair and Day Care Podcast.
With a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ rate in that same range, your hosts, Frank Cirio and Carlo Russo.
Look at that.
So, we're back.
We are back.
For episode four.
(00:34):
We made it to four, Frank.
We made it.
Now, this is the one I've made some significant investments in technology.
Yes.
We have a much neater setup and maybe I'll do some behind the scenes photos later.
But anyway, welcome back.
As hopefully some of you know or if this is your first time, my name is Frank Cirio.
I am 55 years old and my wife is now 21 weeks pregnant.
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So the first thing that we always talk about is the state of the, of the baby, state of the baby.
So the baby is the, now the size of a spaghetti squash, love spaghetti and squash.
I do like spaghetti squash.
Well, I had butternut squash for dinner the other day, but I think that's bigger.
So spaghetti squash.
In 22 weeks, it'll be a butternut squash.
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A butternut squash.
That's right.
So 21 weeks, spaghetti squash.
At this point, the baby, the features are developing.
So it's starting to look like she is going to look.
It looks like a mini baby.
Love mini babies.
And no, but no eye color yet.
Really?
Nope.
21, there's no eye color.
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21, nope.
None of that.
So that's where we are.
And this is going to be fun because we kind of played in the last couple of episodes, we played catch up and we, we've kind of covered week zero through 20 and now we're much more real time and we can start to do some of the segments that we talked about in episode one.
Yes.
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So, so the first segment that we're going to do is one, I think, I don't know if I've talked to you about the name, but I came up with a cute graphic and if, if the video works, you'll see the graphics.
It is right now.
You're going to love it.
This, so this segment is going to be called the silver Fox mailbox.
I love it.
Whenever we have viewer mail or, or things like that or, or, or responses and that's what we really want.
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And we've had some from the first couple of episodes already.
So I was very excited to see that.
So the first one we'll talk about, we got, I think a great, what turned into a great idea for a lullaby.
So Kate, one of the, one of the people who has listened to the podcast reached out and talked about a song that she has sung to her daughter.
(02:45):
Not as a lullaby, but the song from, from a great movie with Gene Kelly singing in the rain and the song is good morning, good morning, but she's singing it in the morning.
But I thought, you know, when you look, when you listen to the lyrics, it's another one.
I can imagine singing this to a child that has stayed up all night, right?
Like you try to, so I've played around with it and, and I, and I think it's going to become one of the lullabies that we will do to develop that.
(03:12):
I really liked that.
That was from Kate from Kate.
And then we have from Christine, one of our social media posts, we talked about parenting wins and parenting fails.
So she brought up, I think a win, which would be a big win is her.
Her daughter was the valedictorian at her high school graduation.
That's really big.
And that made me think about, so for you, you have, you were just on a college tour, right?
(03:37):
With your younger boy.
So this is a big thing for Kelly and for me, I'm sure is academic achievement.
How did you, how did you manage that when the reports cards started coming home?
How did you approach that as a dad?
Okay.
I have two versions of this cause I have two kids, not all kids learn alike.
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Not all kids comprehend stuff the same way.
And one's not better than the other.
They're just different.
I know my school career was not as great as my older brothers, but we both ended up pretty, pretty good report cards.
You have to know your individual that you're dealing with.
You could never come from a place of you're not trying hard enough because you have no idea what kind of, what they're dealing with.
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My oldest always dealt with some kind of learning, not disability, but challenges where my youngest has not.
So he's picked up things where as parents, you have, and you'll, you'll get into this.
My first son was bringing home homework and we were spending two hours on homework, right?
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Now we thought, okay, this is normal.
When we got to talking to teachers, they were like, wait a minute, you shouldn't spend more than 45 minutes.
That's too much.
So you were going to the parent teacher conference and saying, yeah, two hours, you know, and they're like, wait a minute, two hours.
And we're like, well, we're, we're, we're teaching, you know, he's not getting, we then realized, oh, there's something there.
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So I could be like, we can go into going, what are you doing?
Don't you listen in school and then make him feel worse.
So you have to come from a place of, wait a minute, is there something here that I'm missing?
Now, you'll know when your kid is just spacey and doesn't want to work and has all the tools that he's and he doesn't achieve them.
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That's one thing.
But he wasn't showing that he was really frustrated and hard and he wanted to learn where my other one report cards were easy days.
They were like, oh, very good marital honor roll where the other one was like, Hey, you did great.
Let's get this.
You know, you have to kind of let them tell you what they need and you have to listen and go, okay, you know better than I do what you're feeling.
(05:58):
Right.
I think about it because I do like, you know, when I think about it, I will have high expectations.
Kelly, I know will have high expectations too.
She scares me all the time with the stuff that she knows, like stuff like that.
She's very, very bright.
But I do think about the idea that I know how I was as a kid, right?
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The first thing I think about when I think, what's this going to be like is what I was like as a kid.
Like once I got into middle school, my goal was to get the best grades I could without ever doing any homework.
I mean, I literally had a bet on, I had a bet with my physics teacher in high school that I could get a B plus or better if, and never opened my book.
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See, I can see that in you now.
I know that's you.
And I literally, he's like, okay, he put a piece of tape on my book and I did, I got a B plus.
And he paid me.
And how did you do that?
Just by notes and listening?
I paid attention in class and that was it.
You can retain.
I was, I was good.
Like physics and math and the science stuff.
I was not good with, I didn't have like biology a little bit or chemistry I really didn't like.
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Yeah.
I was academically, I was, I was good.
Yeah.
So I know.
So my thing is we'll be judging, you know, for my father, it was whatever you did, you, you could have done better.
Right.
It didn't matter no matter what.
And that was, that was frustrating because I would, I would, I wasn't a slouch, but that's what I always got.
And I also had my brother who obviously was much older, had done very well academically.
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So there was always that, like you got to do at least as well as Mike.
So I'm, I think about how am I going to really judge?
Because yeah, there's no guarantee that the kid is going to have the same talents or strengths.
And how do I know when they're really trying?
Because if somebody had really gotten me to try, I might've done even better.
You know, because there's a difference between being honestly frustrated with themselves because they can't get it.
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That's when you have to realize going, this is beyond, I'm lazy.
Right.
And that's how, and that's when we looked at my son who you wouldn't know if he had a learning.
I mean, he's not, it's not.
It is just a different, it's just a different approach, right?
They just, right.
Yeah.
People don't like that.
That's one of the, like, I see that with, with Kelly, right.
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She's even more like book learning oriented, like academic.
She took it to the next.
Yeah.
She's even more, more so like that.
And other people just aren't like that.
For me, I, I can't learn the same way.
And I used to think, Oh my God, I'm dumb.
Right.
I'm a dumb person.
I can't achieve what they can until I learned, Oh, wait a minute.
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I can learn it this way, which is not the same.
But at the end of the day, we're going to get to the same, same place.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that expectation that it's this, there's only one path, right?
Right.
And that's, and that's when you said, how would I know?
You're going to know.
Yeah.
You're going to know your child.
First of all.
Yeah.
And you're going to know what they can achieve and how they, how they live.
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So when they say to you, I'm trying, I can't, then you get, instead of going, well, try harder.
Don't go, stop watching TV.
Maybe you should go like, Oh, okay.
This is not sinking in.
Why?
Right.
Is there something, is there a barrier?
Is there a different way?
So I think to answer that, you will know, we'll see, we'll see, hopefully I will.
(09:24):
So that was from Christine, big win valedictorian at same daughter when she was very little.
This is a fail now or this was a fail when her daughter was very little, that they lost her for a little while.
And she was in the backyard in her Barbie house, but she was so small.
You couldn't see her through the window of the Barbie house.
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But did you ever lose like, I can picture it in the tally, like left at a truck stop.
I'm sure.
I remember the old department store Kmart and they used to have just the racks.
Right.
And the clothes would just hang.
Yep.
Right.
And when they were little enough and you, and you'll go through this when they learn how to run and walking and all that good stuff and you put them down.
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And one time we were shopping, I'm telling you, it's a, it's a millisecond.
I just, you take your eye off and all of a sudden you're looking at an empty stroller.
Right.
I can picture that.
You freak out.
That must be, your heart must drop.
The, your heart, your stomach, you start sweating, you start calling their names loud.
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Yeah.
And he was sitting in one of the racks underneath, they're so small that the clothes are, are covering them.
And he's laughing.
That's funny.
And it's the worst feeling.
I can imagine.
I couldn't imagine the rock around the house.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a little bit, they're like, where is she?
They're a little enough.
And yeah, that would be something that's scary.
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It made me think of what you just made me think of.
There was a place, I remember doing this to my mother and there was, I don't know if you will remember this in the Kmart Plaza.
There was a place, it was a clothing store called Riverboat fashion, Riverboat right up next to Rochester shoes, was it?
Yes, it was.
Next to Rochester shoes.
That's very good.
And, and I was there and they had the big round racks of clothes and I was little enough that I could get in there.
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And it was like a fort.
I loved it.
So there's, yeah, I think, I don't know if my sisters were with us.
I was little and I got it and I was just hanging out and this was awesome.
And she was terrified and thinking I got out of the store.
I did.
Now that I remember, not my, my kids, but my brother who was younger than us, my mother had him at 40, 50 years ago.
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One time he was missing and this is the scariest moment.
And I probably, once I say this, we'll probably make your decision of never owning this after you hear what I just, I'm going to say.
We couldn't find my brother.
Mike couldn't find him.
He was a little kid and he could go anywhere.
And somebody had to say, did we look in the pool and that was the worst five seconds to run in the backyard.
(12:05):
It was the scariest moment of my life because we had no idea what we were going to find and you couldn't keep this kid.
He wasn't around and all these bad feelings and all these bad thoughts come in your head in that moment that feels like it's eternity.
And we all looked in the pool and he went, oh, thank God.
(12:26):
But that moment was, that's where he's going to be.
That's where he is.
I know it.
I know it.
Yeah.
So, um, so yes, that's terrifying.
So that is a, I don't know if that's a fail or a heart attack.
I don't know what that is.
It's not a fail if they found her.
They did cause she was valedictorian.
So that's scary.
Yeah.
That, that, no doubt.
Did they take the dollhouse apart?
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Did they just, they condemned it.
That's it.
That was my, now Kelly was talking to her about these and she said they, her family went on a trip to Paris when she was about four and her younger sister was about one and they lost, they lost her younger sister for a little while and somewhere a little while.
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I don't know how long, I don't think it was very long, but yeah, she's like, oh yeah, we lost, we lost my sister.
But it feels forever.
That's, that's one about parenting that nobody probably, it probably happens to everybody at some time.
Nobody really talks about it because nobody's bragging about what I did.
It's a fail.
(13:32):
It's a fail on every aspect.
You lost your child?
Yeah.
Well, I remember back in the day when there was less laws and stuff, kids were just lost everywhere at the beach.
You ever go to like Green Lakes?
That's one of the things that's unique about our generation.
Now kids are like wrapped in bubble wrap.
They have helmets.
They have their phones.
You just call them.
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They have their phones.
You can GPS.
They got tags.
They're low jacked.
Right.
Exactly.
Everybody knows where they are.
For us, it was, it's nine o'clock.
Do you know where your children are?
Right.
Remember the commercial?
Yes.
How bad was it?
Yeah.
Like Cyndi Lauper had to do a commercial to say, go find your children.
This is Bruce Springsteen.
Do you know?
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That's so crazy.
But that's the thing because we had no ways to get a hold of that.
Yeah.
There was nothing.
And nobody.
The lights, it's dark out.
Do you know where your kids are?
It's really dark out and you haven't seen your kids since dinner.
If that.
But the funny thing is also, same brother.
Now he's in a suitcase.
Every year, us immigrants, we're very excited about 4th of July.
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4th of July to us immigrants was huge.
It's a big thing.
Yeah.
It's huge.
So we used to go to Green Lakes.
If you live in this area, you know where it is.
If not, it's a park.
It's a state park.
And we go swimming and barbecue.
We spend the whole day.
Yeah.
We would do this from the moment we were, I immigrated to America to like last year.
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We've, we've, we've kept the tradition going.
And one year we were all in the, in the water and this is the best, I mean, best thing you can imagine is we're all playing in the water and all we hear is the parents of Mike, whatever the last name, please come to whatever your son is waiting for.
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Your son is waiting.
Oh my God.
So yeah, back in the seventies and eighties, we just, there was.
And we were worried about member of the big, don't get kidnapped.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Cause we just, you just lost kids everywhere.
That happened.
There were, there were those things.
And I thought, I always thought it was like crazy.
Like with my parents, like there was the field days in the summer firemen field day.
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We could never go.
Nope.
And I never understood why.
Well, then I found out later because there were girls, young girls abducted from those field days.
Yeah.
It was, it was not good.
So the, the other thing that we had for, we had Christine, Christine, and then the other one we had for a bow in our friend, Dave, Dave said that his big win is getting his 17 year old to shower now.
(16:11):
Oh, Dave.
When I think about that, you have two boys.
Is that a thing?
No.
None of my family.
Yeah.
No kidding.
We were, we, I had them on cologne and underarm deodorant at two months.
No, I've been so lucky.
My, my kids.
Yeah.
There's no fighting about showers.
(16:31):
Maybe, maybe when they were like real young and they were like, you were stopped them from playing a game, a video game or watching Elmo or something.
They, you know, at night you give them a bath or something.
They give you a hard time.
But as like 17, no, I mean, I don't remember that being a thing either.
So Dave, it's, it's your fault.
It's yeah.
It's Dave.
(16:52):
And Dave will be on, Dave will be on the podcast.
He's one of our guests.
So we can, we can actually yell at him.
We can ask him about this.
Why is your kid?
Why are your children filthy?
Dave?
Why?
But that's a win for him.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to smell them.
And when he gets it, I take, you got to take the wins.
And then the last one we had was from another friend of the podcast, Chris.
(17:13):
Learning that you were born in Italy.
I wanted to know, are you, could you speak Italian?
Are you fluent?
As you know, I speak to my parents only in Italian.
They've never learned how to speak English.
So that would make it.
They know, they know how to nod and smile.
Yes.
They smile.
They, they, they fake them.
They fake their way through the American dream.
(17:35):
But I will say this.
I do not speak fluent Italian because what I was brought up was with my dialect from my Sicilian, which is from Palermo.
And then even a language less than Palermo is from our town dialect.
Right.
So yes, I speak Italian, but it's more of a Sicilian dialect.
(17:58):
It's very different.
Very different.
If you learned, if you, if you get the Babel or you get the Rosetta Stone, it has nothing to do.
Be like, why are you speaking Spanish to me?
So in my family, my grandparents, they learned a little, but it was my parents would speak to them in Italian.
So my dad would speak to his mother in Italian.
(18:19):
Sure.
And, and then, but they would still, you know, she would still speak to us in English.
Okay.
But it wasn't, it wasn't great.
So they, they, they went back to their language when they were speaking to each other.
Yes.
But anytime they were talking to the siblings, the nephews, the nieces, the grandkids, it was all English.
Yeah, that was it.
Yeah.
That's because they didn't want you.
They wanted to kind of.
(18:40):
I think they didn't want us to understand what they were saying.
They were secrets.
But no, I think they made it a point of, I think because of the time that they came to the country, it was very important that you, that my father learned English.
Right.
Being the first generation here, they had to learn English.
They had to do that stuff, but they still, there was the Metagon thing where they still talked at home.
(19:03):
They spoke Italian.
I know they had to, we had to go through that, but I think it, I think it watered down our culture.
Our kids don't speak Italian.
You didn't learn Italian.
No, I'm not teaching.
And I come from a, I come from an immigration story and I still didn't teach my kids Italian.
I've tried very hard before we went to like for the year before we went to Italy for the first time I tried to learn.
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I had Rosetta stone and I, you know, I, I understand more.
I still remember stuff cause I would, I could pick it up from my, my, you know, my family little bits here and there, but they were dialect as well.
But from Southern Italy, my brother-in-law on the other hand, he is multilingual.
He has learned it.
He speaks.
(19:48):
I don't even want to talk to him.
He's cause he speaks Italian.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
And I'm turning around with Sicilian stuff at him, you know, and he's looking at me going.
He's done.
He's really good.
He's good.
So there we are.
Those are our first.
Yeah.
Really.
And anyway, comment on our social stuff, questions, ideas.
This, we want to, we want to tell your stories.
(20:10):
Yeah.
Because it's easier than making up our own.
The next up, I know you've been waiting for it.
Can't wait.
Check, please.
Check, please.
So check, please.
The whole idea is I'm going to keep a running total of what we spend on my daughter.
And then when she graduates high school, I'm going to give her the bill itemized.
(20:31):
So I keep, do you think it ends as high school?
No, I just figured I'm going to try to draw a line in the sand.
Hey, we're into you for 22 million.
And really this is what it is so far.
I'm trying to organize it and keep track.
So I broke it up into a few categories.
Okay, this would be interesting.
So the categories are total spending so far.
(20:52):
Do you want to guess?
We're very preliminary.
From zero to now, right?
Yep.
Just up till now.
I'm going to say a couple hundred dollars.
The grand total so far, $370.08. We're very close.
A little bit over budget there.
A little bit over budget.
And I broke it down.
So we have categories are books.
(21:12):
Doggy books.
A lot of dog books.
Pharmacological stuff.
Vitamins and things.
Yeah.
Home goods.
Home goods.
You got to have home goods.
Hardware.
Sure.
And equipment.
Just general equipment.
Podcast equipment.
Not podcast equipment.
We would be way over $300 for that.
So books is the number one category.
(21:33):
$147 on books.
Got some readers in the house.
But I'm so excited because I finally finished the last dog book.
Yes, you were talking about.
And I am now in the book that everyone is supposed to read, What to Expect When You're Expecting.
Oh, yes.
Of course.
Obviously, I start at the beginning.
And it starts at the beginning.
And I'm going through.
I'm like, I wish I had known all of this.
(21:54):
When we had all those scares, I'd have been like, shut up.
Make me a sandwich.
Exactly.
I read about this.
Relax.
I know all about this.
So absolutely.
I'm excited to be in that.
But yeah, a lot of money on books.
Second equipment at about $100.
Around $100 on home goods.
And then the others are kind of home goods.
What do you like for the bed?
(22:17):
Yeah, like the pregnancy pillow.
Things like that.
And it's almost.
I didn't bring the breakdown.
But the vast majority of it is all on Amazon.
It's all Amazon stuff.
So that is, check please, $370.38. So at this date, episode four, we are $370.08. Don't forget the cents.
(22:42):
Because this makes no sense at all.
All the money you're going to be throwing around.
No cents or eight cents.
That's cool.
Yeah, so that's it.
You're going to look at that number and go, oh.
That was nothing.
I remember back when it was.
$300.
I'm going to throw that away in the toilet.
My brother was on a transatlantic cruise home.
So he hadn't heard any of these podcasts until yesterday.
(23:06):
He's catching up.
And I talked to him today for the first time.
And the first thing he brought up was, have you bought the $1,000 bassinet yet?
And I went, no, not yet.
The Eddie Bauer.
That's the one I saw.
The Eddie Bauer scroller.
Oh my God.
It's all coming.
So there you are.
Check please.
Next segment.
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This one is one that I think is going to be a lot of fun.
We're going to have to figure out as we go.
Can't wait.
And that is Crash Test Daddy, where we test out some of the different baby and parenting products that we're going to have.
I feel this is where I earn my paycheck.
This is going to be, I think this is going to be fun.
So we've got this time, it is called the Ergo Baby.
(23:51):
Ergo Baby.
Because that's the brand.
And it's an embrace cozy newborn carrier.
It is $80 on Amazon.
And it's one of those Papoose things.
Papoosh.
So what I want to do is, we're going to have Carlo.
What?
I'm going to give you the instructions.
Excuse me?
I'm going to give you the instructions.
(24:12):
And I want you to figure out how to put this thing on.
Okay.
Oh my God.
If you guys could see this.
It is.
Okay.
I'm going to read the Chinese one.
Good.
So, can you hold this?
Is there any way I can get you to work with me here?
(24:35):
Because I need to see this.
Here, let me get this.
Okay.
I'm going to.
You're going to.
This is going to be.
So here we are.
Carlo is going to try this out.
(24:56):
Okay.
I think you got it.
So wait a minute.
I'm going to be.
This will be like one of those things.
It's like a Friday night board game where you have to tell somebody how to do something.
Okay.
Number one.
So I got this.
I think that is the way you start.
I got this like this.
Yep.
And I make this tight.
(25:18):
As you pull.
Yep.
Because that's how the baby would slide out and.
Baby will slide.
Now.
Then you're going to take.
So those go across your shoulder.
So do.
No, no.
So go.
So the one on your right hand.
You're going to go over your right shoulder.
This should be facing.
That should probably be facing out.
(25:39):
Oh, and also that thing.
So that thing.
Yes.
Because then this thing flops up.
Right.
Okay.
So by now that your child is has scurried away.
Okay.
Wait, hold on a minute.
Yes.
The baby's crying, right?
Right.
(25:59):
I'm freaking out.
Yes.
Hold on.
Shut up.
We're getting married.
Okay.
So now I take these.
Yes.
And I'm going to put them over.
And then they crisscross back there.
And they crisscross like a bra.
Yes.
Like a bra.
So I'm going to do that.
Now.
How do I?
Now they connect into those clippies there.
(26:21):
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So now.
So you're going to have to make that.
There you go.
This.
And this.
This is fantastic.
There you go.
Look at that.
You're getting it.
Okay.
(26:42):
This is fantastic.
Oh, no.
There is a clip.
It's just further up on that thing.
You got to.
You got to slide it down.
There you go.
Clip it here.
Now.
I'm going to take this.
This side.
Yes.
(27:04):
I'm so glad that you're the one that has to do this and not me.
Okay.
Now I got this.
Okay.
There you go.
You got to go.
(27:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
There you go.
That's it.
Get your little clippy.
Slide the clippy down.
Yes.
This is fantastic.
Now.
I got this.
Clip this up here.
All you really have to do.
Slide it down.
There you go.
Clip it in.
(27:46):
And we clip it in.
That's it.
I feel like.
We are secure.
I feel like when I'm on a flight and they're giving the instructions.
And always adjust your mask before saving your child.
Now.
Now.
Go get the baby.
Okay.
Now you got the baby.
I got the baby.
I got my daughter.
And I assume.
Yes.
And it just.
She's.
(28:06):
That's it.
And then.
But now.
See now.
The bottom strap.
I think.
This thing.
You got to cinch up.
Because that's what keeps.
Yeah.
Otherwise the kid's just going to slide out the front.
And now you're ready to jump out of the airplane.
Fantastic.
Well done.
That is beautiful.
(28:27):
That's great.
Okay.
I think you did a great job.
I've never seen this before in my life.
You did better than I would have done.
And I was looking at this and still confused.
I did it with a hoodie.
That's it.
So that is.
Yeah.
That is the.
Can I do the rest of the show with the baby?
If you want to.
You can.
Let's see if we can sit down.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's an interesting idea.
Yeah.
Let's give it a shot.
(28:47):
Okay.
Let's see if I can.
Okay.
So that is the Ergo Baby Embrace Cozy Newborn Carrier.
How does it feel?
It's okay.
I just.
It was not the baby.
That's it.
Is the baby facing the other way?
Or am I suffocating it?
I think.
Did I kill the baby?
I don't know.
Well, let's see.
(29:08):
Have I killed the baby?
This shows the baby either way.
Okay.
All right.
The baby could be facing you.
Because they do turn their heads.
Yes.
This is.
Or it could be out the other way.
And then as they get older, you can do it forward and have the legs.
Legs sticking out.
Legs hanging out.
Yes.
So right now, you either can go this way or if you want the baby to be part of the world.
(29:28):
Facing the world.
You can face it this way.
There you go.
The legs are cozy.
And as Frank said, as they get older.
The legs can fit outside.
There it is.
Okay.
So that is.
That was fun.
That is our first.
That is our first.
That was.
Our first crash test daddy.
So what do you think?
I think.
I think.
I mean.
It seems like it'll be not.
(29:49):
You know, Kelly tried it on immediately.
And I was like, how does this like?
Yeah.
And you know, I think that it's going to be good.
We actually got it early in an effort to.
She's going to start wearing it.
To get the dogs used to.
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the doll.
Great idea.
So.
Now, is this something that is meant to be by yourself to do it?
(30:09):
Because it was kind of tough.
It was kind of tough.
I mean.
I don't know.
Like, I think.
I mean, it's possible I did it.
It doesn't say that it's a team sport to put it on.
It better be.
But it looked like.
It certainly would be.
I know.
I helped.
It was tough.
I helped her put it on.
Yeah.
And I did it by myself.
When we tried.
You did.
I was.
So.
I hope the video was close or not.
All for the.
All for just the.
The entertainment of our.
(30:29):
Our fans.
You were laughing at me.
It's fantastic.
And for my entertainment.
I'm kind of proud of what I just did.
I'm going to readjust the cameras.
That is our.
Inaugural.
Crash Test Daddy.
So.
The.
The next thing.
The.
The next segment.
This is another one.
Inaugural.
Segment.
Is book report.
Book report.
We're here for book report.
So.
(30:50):
The book report.
This title is.
Good dog.
Happy baby.
Preparing your dog for the arrival of your child.
So it is 4.4 stars on on Amazon.
It's about 14 dollars.
The author's name is Michael.
Wombacher.
(31:11):
Michael Wombacher.
Published in 2015.
Of the.
Books that I have read so far and I've read many.
About the dog.
I think this is.
is the best one.
What I like about it is, first of all, I agree with this guy's approach.
Like this guy has a dog trainer.
He is relevant to everything else I've ever learned about how you train and take care of dogs.
(31:36):
Gotcha.
And the outline of what you mean, what he's saying that some of them, like the last book, it was just completely like, Oh, the pack thing doesn't, you know, the pack mentality with animals has all been proven wrong.
Horseshit.
They operate that way.
I think, but anyhow, what I like about it is not, you know, not a huge, not a huge read, but it breaks it down.
(32:00):
He breaks it down into 12 steps of how you, first of all, evaluate your dog.
So understanding, okay, when this happens, what does your dog do?
And kind of helps you to categorize your dog is, is your dog going to be really Is your dog going to require a little bit of training or is your dog going to need to be put down, right?
Like, Oh God, you're going to get rid of them.
(32:21):
Right.
So he, you know, it's first assess the dog and then how, okay, how do you, how do you train dog B to, to get better, to, to be a dog a, and I think, you know, very tactical, easy to understand this.
I think of the ones that I will review is the best one.
So I'm going to assume there's, there's ideas of what to do in their practices and stuff, right?
(32:43):
And what you've read with the other books, this seems like something that makes more sense to you and your dogs, I think, because you have to take your dogs in into play.
The second book, and we'll do a review there.
The other books were either very similar to this, but less, I think this was like a system which made sense to me, right?
Okay.
This is what you do first.
(33:03):
It works for your assess.
Yeah.
Assess what your dogs are doing.
Then do this, do this, do this.
And it also called out throughout the, throughout the steps, it called out the potential pitfalls.
This is, you want to do this because this could happen, right?
Like, so it was very logical, simple, easy to understand, and gave you things to do to get yourself.
(33:26):
So you're comfortable and confident and it's an easy, it's easy transition.
So you recommend that book?
I would of the ones I'll do the reviews on the others at some point, but I think knowing now I would have read, there's one other one that I would say.
Those two are worth it, but this one, if you only do one, I think this is the one good dog, happy baby, preparing your dog for the arrival of your child.
(33:50):
And it's a cute picture of a little baby.
It is adorable.
It's, it is a scary thought of animals with your child, a baby, because you have no idea how the animal is going to react because up to this point, they're your babies, right?
They are the only, you're taking care of them.
You're mom and daddy to them.
(34:10):
I think in your case, I think you might be more worried about, because your one dog is so big that even with love, it could be dangerous, right?
With weight and size.
And a dog like, you know, one time and the only time, but Watson is a big dog.
But I remember one time I didn't know what I had done, but all of a sudden we're in the kitchen and Watson looks at me and growls at me and when an 85 pound dog growls at you, no matter how experienced you are, I was like, what the, and I, I yelled at him.
(34:47):
And then I looked down on the floor and I realized I had stepped on the fur of his tail and yanked a chunk of fur out of his tail.
So you were the best.
I was the bad guy, right?
But a little kid, you know, a kid, a little kid grabs you with those nails, right?
Like the wrong thing happens in the dog reacts naturally.
(35:08):
It could be bad.
But I think we talked about this too, maybe episode one or two.
I think that, I think they know it's a child.
I don't know what it is.
Animals.
They, they must feel like this is, I have to protect this.
I think it's not the same as maybe you or me to them.
I don't know.
I don't, maybe, maybe I'm wrong.
I don't, I think, I think they probably, I think they probably do have, have those instincts.
(35:33):
Like they're, they can't do like what I like.
They see this, not innocent, but like, I don't know what the word.
You see videos online of these dogs that are big, you know, pit bulls and big dogs and they're playing with the babies very gently and all that stuff.
And I would love it if we could get there, you know, if we can get there, that'd be great, but I just want to make sure we set them up for, I think it's going to be fine.
(35:57):
But does Kelly have any kind of a thought over more than you do about this?
Not, no, I think, I think she, I think she just wants to be prepared.
She's had, so the dog she had when she was growing up was a dog that was rehomed because of a child.
Oh, then she had a dog before we were together that she got from a friend who rehomed their dog because of a, because of a child.
(36:23):
I remember.
So she just doesn't, she's seen it happen and doesn't, because it's, it's a horrible thing for the dog.
So I think she just wants to, to, you know, make sure that's not going to happen.
I don't think it's going to be, you know, I think you guys will be fine.
I think we're going to be okay.
Yeah.
But if better, better safe than sorry, somebody's out there that is going through that, that book helped you a little bit, right?
(36:44):
It helped you out.
No, it was, this is a worthwhile read.
I would, I would read it.
I don't know if I would read for one, maybe, or maybe I'd start with the one you've moved on to start with the one about the baby, but that's it.
So, so, but yeah, but there'll be more.
Like I said, I just started with another book.
I've got a stack of books.
So that's it.
That's a thumbs up.
Like it's a four, four out of five duckies, duckies, radlers.
(37:06):
We're going to come out with, that can be a thing.
It can be a rat that you guys get.
Yeah.
Four, four, four, four out of five rattles.
I like that.
So yeah, good book.
Next segment really is, is the one where we just talk about what happened, what just happened, what's up, what just happened this week.
Okay.
So, but the, the, the thing I wanted to talk about, you know, we talked about in the last episode, finding out that it's a girl and the very next thing that you think about is names, right?
(37:35):
I was talking with Kelly about it and I, you know, and I'm like, well, I'm going to, we're going to talk about names.
And she, she reminded me very nicely that I am not allowed to share our name choice for being the internet and that you people could be crazy.
I'm not supposed to share that.
So I feel bad that I can't share.
But they understand.
(37:55):
I think people understand.
I know, but I, so I, but I want, I still, I feel bad.
So I want to make it fun for them.
I want to make it fun for the, for our listeners.
So what we should do is let our listeners name the baby.
So I'm going to want to use a name.
I'm not going to always want to say the Kelly and the baby or Kelly and the bill, the baby or the baby.
(38:15):
So I think we're going to ask everybody, please give us some ideas.
You, you've gotten to know me a little bit, you know, now it's a little girl.
I can share the name that it almost was.
This name is off the, this is, this, this, this can't be used if they vote for it and they want it to be used as our name, but it won't be used.
(38:37):
This is not going to be the name, but it was going to be Olivia.
Love that name.
And Olivia is a pretty name.
What I think is fascinating is I had no idea, but Olivia is a very popular name.
Too early.
And I didn't know this, but my sister, I was talking with my sister one morning and we're talking about names and she's very invested in the names.
(39:03):
And for some reason thinks she has a say at one point, like, she's like, well, I, I gave you ideas when you named my sister at home or sister away, my local sister, Paula, and we're talking about it.
She's like, well, I gave, I got to suggest names for, for, uh, for Watson, for the dog and I'm like, well, yeah, you did, but you'll notice that none of your names got picked and we went in a different direction, but we're talking about, and I mentioned Olivia and she's like, oh, Olivia.
(39:36):
Yeah.
And then she goes and she searches and Olivia is, has been like the number one girl name for the last three or four years and in the top five for the last decade, really?
And I've been, I don't know.
And I don't know not one, I have an Olivia, an employee who's an Olivia in Erie, Pennsylvania.
(40:00):
And other than that, no, Olivia is in my life.
And about when the, about the time we were having these conversations, I went and got a haircut and the girl who cuts my hair for, for many, many years, a great, a great girl, Danielle.
She has, she has four kids.
They're all named Olivia.
But I asked her like, is Olivia?
She's like, my daughter has 22 Olivia's in her class.
Like they're everywhere.
(40:22):
So apparently we're already lousy with Olivia's.
So Olivia got eliminated.
And which I was, I was okay with, I think we landed on a great name, but you can do even better.
So I'm very interested to see what you want to call.
Do you just want to get rid of Olivia?
Let's not even do it as a fake name.
I'm okay.
If you vote, if the, if the, if the people speak and they want Olivia on the table, guys, Olivia is okay.
(40:48):
Olivia is on the table, but, uh, that's a, you know, I think it'd be fun.
I knew we weren't having a daughter when we couldn't come up with a name.
My wife and I were like, do you like the, it was kind of like everybody's named Bella and I was like, and we knew Nick, you know, we knew that right off the bat, we're like, you know, we're not having a girl because we're not even, we don't even know what the, not even entertaining.
(41:14):
Yeah.
We're not even in it.
So when you knew, did you, I know you waited to find out that they were boy, the day of the labor head.
So you obviously didn't have a name, but you had ideas.
Like how did you come to your two boys name?
So we went to traditional first son was my father's name.
I didn't want to go Carlo jr.
(41:35):
No, I didn't want to do that.
So my first one was my father's first name, which is Natalia.
So that's my son.
And his middle name is my wife's father's name.
Okay.
Thomas.
So Tali Thomas, Tali Thomas, Tali Thomas Russo.
Yes.
It's a good name.
Yeah.
Strong name.
Yeah.
So good name.
So when we had our second, we went to my wife's side of the family.
(41:59):
Funny story here.
My last name Russo.
I'm Carlo Russo.
My wife's family partner.
Mother's side is also Russo.
My mother-in-law is Russo.
Okay.
So Russo is the Jones and Smiths of Italy.
So that's not a big deal that you find two people named Russo, but her grandfather was Nicholas Russo.
(42:22):
Okay.
So when we named my second son, Nick, we both have Natalia Russo, which is his, and then Nicholas Russo, you know, because generally you don't have the same last name.
Yeah, absolutely.
So that's what we went.
If it was a female, right.
I never, then it would have been my grandmother.
Her name was Graciella, which is grace.
(42:44):
Graciella.
Okay.
But that's a pretty name.
You don't hear it.
It is a pretty name, but it never stuck with us.
So we're like, it's not going to happen.
Right.
That's interesting.
It's funny because when I was young, people would ask you what your father's name is.
And I was embarrassed of my own name because I didn't know any Carlos, right?
There was no Carl.
There was Carl's.
(43:05):
There wasn't a lot of Carlos at the time either.
So Carlo, I didn't, everybody just didn't know my name.
I didn't like it.
So then when they asked me my father's name, I really didn't want to say his name.
I'm like, if you're having trouble with Carlo, you're really going to have a field day with Natalia, right?
So I used to call my father, Nick.
So all the school stuff that would come to my house, it'd be parents of Nick Russo.
(43:29):
So I always had this name in my mind for some reason, Nick Russo, Nick Russo.
That's interesting.
And then now I have a son named Nick Russo.
So it's weird how it works.
How that kind of, because Natalia and Nick are not the same.
So, so with your, I know initially I thought your name was a short for John Carlo, but you're just Carlo.
I'm just Carlo.
Okay.
Okay.
(43:49):
And the middle names were my father-in-law, Thomas, and then Nicholas took my, my name as a middle name.
So he's Nicholas Carlo.
With the, with the girl names, obviously Olivia got kicked out, but the family name thing for us, I would have liked.
So my mom was Pauline.
(44:09):
Okay.
I was like, so I said, what about, you know, I said, what about Pauline?
Kelly was like, did not like that and enough where I would, I would have liked to have done that, but my mother hated her name.
Like she, she didn't like her name anyway.
So I'm like, okay, that's not going to happen.
(44:31):
My grandmothers were Marianne and, and then my, my, my, my dad's mom was Lucia, but you know, it's cute.
Could be, could be, but she was such a miserable woman.
The last thing I want to do, like she's onto a baby.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
(44:51):
She was awful.
So that wasn't going to happen.
And then for Kelly, it was, you know, there wasn't a family name that really resonated.
So anyway, so now we landed on whatever, whatever you say.
So at some point, we're going to put a post out on social and just give us your name away, give us your ideas.
(45:12):
We'll vote and that'll be, that will be the baby's name.
And that will be now for just a little girl's life.
I'm going to, if this podcast is successful, I'm going to be calling her by the wrong name.
Kelly and the baby.
Now, did your, now you have an older brother and younger brother.
Did you get constantly called Pete?
(45:33):
Yes, you did.
So that was, I would, I, I got them.
I was kind of, they were all my father, my Frank, I only have two.
And I screw it up.
I mean, it's only Nick or Natalia.
And I'm like, if you screw it up, you're going to be called Watson.
I mean, your problem is you got, you got dog names and podcast names you're going to throw in there.
(45:59):
Oh yeah.
I'm going to be completely confused.
That'll be a no.
So, so you've decided you and Kelly have decided we have, we have decided wow, big, big step.
Yep.
I got to listen to the conversation, Kelly talking with her mother and discussing the name choice.
Now I don't know.
I don't even know.
Is this a family name or is this a brand new addition name to the, to the, I will say it has similarities to some of the names we have discussed, but no, it is not a family name, but I think it's a, I think it's very pretty.
(46:32):
My brother broke the tradition when he had his daughter to not have a traditional family name.
Right.
And you think it's a big deal.
It's not.
The other thing that's difficult with a girl name is, as I said, my cousin, three girls, my, my other cousin, a girl, my brother, two girls.
(46:53):
There's a lot of girls that they've taken all the good ones that go with our last name, with our surname.
The funny thing I know really, you have to think of the name, the whole name.
We were at, I remember Trina was pregnant and we were at dinner and our name, for some reason we were just, like I said, having a hard time with a female name.
And I was like, is it going to go to Graciela's?
(47:14):
Am I going to have a baby grace?
I'm like, I still wasn't sold in that.
And for some reason, the popular name of the time, other than Olivia was Bella.
Everybody's Bella.
My sister's granddaughter is a Bella.
There you are.
So, and I thought I can live with Bella.
I can live with, and then I get, I get a phone call as we're eating dinner and we're kind of sold into this name for a couple days now.
(47:40):
My younger brother calls me and says, Hey, I just got a dog.
I named it Bella.
That's right.
He had a Bella.
Yeah, that's right.
And I'm like, well, that's off the table.
I'm not naming the baby after the dog.
So he took my Bella.
So that's a, so we didn't have to worry about it.
And it came out anyways.
So we'll be looking for names, the contest.
(48:01):
We'll do a little contest.
And then the name that we do pick, we'll send them out a, Oh yeah.
I ate t-shirt.
Okay.
Do we can do that?
Absolutely.
Just a limited edition edition of Frank and I are the only ones that have them.
That's right.
The GHDC podcast.
Sure.
So we'll get that.
That'd be our first giveaway of the podcast.
(48:22):
There you go.
That sounds fun.
Awesome.
So the other thing that happened for this week for what just happened is we were talking, we were going through the podcast that we did last week.
Okay.
And one of the things that we talk about, it was that the non-invasive prenatal testing, right?
So the, and the whole thing with that is it's looking for chromosomal abnormalities.
(48:46):
So we did it the first time and it came back inconclusive.
So we had to do it again.
Second time, everything came back good.
So we were talking about that Kelly, while we're talking about it says, well, I didn't say anything at the time.
Oh God.
But the most typical result when there's no result, when you do the testing, typically it's because there is an abnormality and we redid it when we redid it and it, everything came back good.
(49:19):
That was, you know, a period of, oh, you know, it was like two weeks.
So for two weeks, she knew, she knew that and did not tell me.
And I wasn't sure how to process that because I thought, okay.
So for two weeks, she's thinking there's something wrong.
(49:41):
And she didn't tell me.
And it bothered me a little bit.
I thought I felt bad.
I should know.
I felt bad less that it was, I should know and more that I should be sharing that burden with her, whether it's a real burden or not.
Don't spare me.
(50:02):
Don't don't spare me.
I, my feeling, I hate the idea of she already has to go all of the physical stuff, like pretty much on her own.
Right?
Like I can't have this baby for her.
Everything's happening to her.
I can be supportive, but she's doing the work.
She's doing literally the heavy lifting, everything she's doing.
(50:25):
So it, I think it made me feel bad.
I understand why that she's thinking, you know, that it's probably nothing and we're just going to do it again and it'll be fine.
But when she said, and I don't think when she told me, I don't think she thought that I was going to be bothered by it and I didn't, I don't know if I even let on because it wasn't until later on when I talked about what we're going to talk about on this podcast.
(50:50):
I was like, yeah, you know that, you know, that bothered me a little.
And, and it just made me, it made me think about throughout this whole process, you know, I, I think it's worth us having a conversation and talking about, don't spare me, don't spare me.
And secrets are bad, right?
Like they're just going to hurt.
They're going to eat somebody up, right?
(51:12):
Yeah.
Why, why, why put that more on?
Yeah.
I like it because it's easier when it's out there.
If it had gone, it went, it went the right way.
That's a good thing.
But if it went the wrong way, I don't know if it saved me two weeks of knowing, but now you have to think about why didn't you let me share this with you?
Like, yeah, you know, I don't want to be, you know, this is a learning, this is a learning thing for everybody.
(51:36):
This is not, this is her first child, obviously like you, she already experienced a little bit of fear and saw you react to that.
So that's a good point.
You know, she already saw me turn into a mess.
She already saw the low end of what your feelings are and how much you want this so bad, where you even said to yourself, when you heard the good news, you ran out of the room because you didn't want to hear anything else.
(52:04):
It'd be those pancakes.
So at the same time, is she sparing?
No, she's probably thinking, listen, if it's out there, it's going to come out.
We're both going to deal with it anyways.
Right.
And I think if I'm going to throw something out there that is probably nothing anyways, do I really want to set the world on fire right now?
(52:24):
Right.
I do think, yeah, I do think that also for her in that moment, yes, that's the most likely that that's that, that happens.
But also we really don't know, like there isn't anything definitive.
So why share it?
And I, and I understand that too.
And I didn't, this is helpful.
It's very, this is almost like therapy because I think this is what the show is.
(52:49):
Well, because you do point out, yeah, I just, we just did a whole podcast on how I was a mess when this stuff was going on and yeah, and I didn't hide it well.
So that makes me feel, that makes me feel a little bit better.
You have to understand that if something eventually is good and bad, it's, you're going to have to deal with it.
Right.
So it's a learning process for everybody and you're never going to figure this out until our dying day of what we're doing.
(53:17):
Sometimes we, it's a hit or miss, you know, it's hit or miss.
Should I've done this differently?
Do I, do I do it?
And next time maybe she'll, if something comes up, she'll take that conversation you had and go, let me tell him right now.
Yeah.
Or next time it happens, she does it again.
You also understand, listen, it was something that she dealt with.
She made a decision that.
This was not done thoughtlessly.
(53:39):
Yeah, no, not at all.
Right.
So, yeah, so there was that.
And then the thing that I thought was more funny was Kelly had been talking
about reaching out to like some of her family members because she feels like
she hasn't had, she didn't grow up with where there was like a little cousin or
a younger or a much younger sister where she feels like she has a lot of
(54:02):
experience around children and, but she has, you know, other cousins and
friends and stuff like that.
So she was talking about, about that.
And I said, well, you know, when you think about it, you live, you've lived in me for a while now and living with me is very much like living with a child.
Right.
I say things that you think are completely inappropriate.
(54:25):
I, I, I have, I have biological issues that you think are disgusting.
You can't watch what you want on TV cause you gotta watch what I want.
And a surprising amount of what we watch is cartoons.
I'm like, I'm just like, I'm going down the, I'm going down the list of, you know, the, the, you know, I never want what you plan on making for dinner.
I like, there's, there's all those things.
(54:47):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you basically are living with a child.
Like you have a lot of, you have a lot of experience.
You're always using words that I don't understand.
Like I'm always asking questions.
So, you know, I think you're like, you're good, right?
Like you're, you're all set.
That is one of the things that I do like about our relationship is this is another insight into my, my wonderful wife, Kelly is Kelly has two laughs.
(55:17):
She has her practiced laugh, or which is, I found out later in meeting some of her extended family, it's her father's laugh.
Oh, right.
She has a laugh is that, and she has a laugh that is her real laugh.
And my favorite thing is to get the real is to get the real, the genuine.
(55:41):
Oh yeah.
That's what I love.
Cause I know, I know not everybody gets, I see that you get right.
But I think I see that.
And I, I, I love getting the real laugh.
So when, when I say stuff like that, she just starts laughing and I'm like, okay.
Like that, that's, that's when you can tell you're a partner, right?
(56:01):
Like that's my, that's, that's who I want to make happy.
That was a big thing in the, that was a big thing in the, in the beginning was
figuring out getting her to, I knew this is like, this is clearly a person I'm
very interested in and I'm attracted to she's yeah, we, we have great
conversations, but finding out kind of the real person when she relaxed a
(56:23):
little bit and I started to get the real laugh, okay, like this is who, this is who
we used to walk every day and used to talk when you guys were dating and this
is nothing that, oh my God, this is a fresh dating month, two months, whatever.
When you are supposed to have questions and, and figure people out and we would, you would, you would bring that up.
(56:44):
I got to get to the real.
Yeah.
I just felt like it wasn't there.
And then one, one day it broke through all of a sudden there was the real laugh and I'm like, oh, okay.
I got like, it's like, you can see inside there, whoever they are, then, you know, I mean, you feel like, okay, now she trusts me enough to relax.
And so she was amused by, so she's at this point, she's, she's not concerned, but she's questioning, like, I haven't been really around kids.
(57:12):
Do I know what I'm going to, she's thinking now, like very tactically, like, how is this going to work overnight?
Like the baby's going to be in the room with us.
What do you do?
Leo, my sister in Texas is a, is a great reason.
One is a great resource.
Talk to her.
She's got family members.
(57:32):
She's getting the, all the textbook stuff and she wants practical experience of, and I think a lot of this, a lot of this stuff also falls into place when it happens.
It's natural, you're going to figure it out.
You know what I mean?
Cause half the time for the first couple of weeks, you're going to be doing everything without sleep.
So there's going to be chaos in your mind.
There's going to be lack of sleep, lack of thought, lack of, you're not gonna put a sentence together.
(57:55):
The only thought is the baby, you know, feed, clean, keep everything alive.
Keep this child alive and you figure it out in your worst times of when you're weak and hungry and you're eating patterns are all over the place.
And you do the best work.
That's when, like you figure it out, like, oh yeah.
And then when you get your sleep in, when the baby starts getting into a little pattern, then you're like, you can breathe and go, oh, okay, we got that out.
(58:23):
We did the whole, we figured it out.
I mean, the first scary part of everything, when the baby finally comes to you is how do I bring this home without crashing into anything?
My car is going to be, you know, you're going to be driving 10 miles an hour and everything that you see around you is aiming at you in your mind.
(58:45):
This car is going to hit me.
This person's going to hit me.
You know, everything, I'm going to get a flat tire.
So that's going to be your first initial freak out when you walk out of that hospital, right?
Baby's not even home yet.
No, it comes together.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
Well, once again, this is a fun one.
Yeah.
We covered a lot of ground.
(59:05):
I forgot that I was doing a bunch of, um, crash, crash test, daddy, all that stuff again, if you stayed with us until the end, we really appreciate it.
And we thank you for taking the time.
Please send us our name suggestions, any stories, ideas, anything that you would comments, any suggestions, all that stuff.
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(59:32):
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Yeah.
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(59:52):
That's right.
So this will be someday that could be worth a lot of money.
Let's do a timeframe.
How long do we want to do this?
It's right now.
This'll come out.
So this'll come, this'll come out in a couple of weeks.
We could say that when we were recording for the week of Christmas.
Okay.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
So you'll have basically all of the rest of November and all, and some of December.
Yeah.
(01:00:12):
Yeah.
Okay.
So you give time to, to build up some people do a, we'll do a post with what we're looking for and then you guys can submit your answers.
That's crushing it.
That's killing it.
We're going to grab it.
Okay.
All right.
Oh yeah.
This will be interesting to see what people think.
So it's all going to be Olivia.
Kelly is going to have a, a baby name pretty soon.
Kelly's baby name.
Francine.
(01:00:32):
Do you want something funny or do you, I think it's all, it's all up to them.
But it's what is it?
What's his name?
Mark Hamill.
He had, he had his fans name, his dog.
And then came Barkham.
Come up with something fun.
I'm all for it.
Okay.
Thanks again.
And we will see you next time.
(01:00:53):
Well, folks, that's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books.
Thanks very much for tuning in and spending this time with us.
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And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed.
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