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July 1, 2025 19 mins
What happens when a 17-year-old signs up to swim 34km across freezing water—no wetsuit, no excuses—all to raise awareness for men’s mental health?
 
In this raw, high-impact episode, Barney Ryder joins Joe De Sena to share how choosing discomfort, facing failure, and embracing the cold shaped his mind more than any victory ever could.
 
They talk resilience, grit, the power of movement over words, and why real change starts where comfort ends.
 
If you’ve ever needed a push to stop talking and start doing—this is it.
 
Timestamps:
00:00 Into
00:38 Meet Swimmer Barney Rider
01:02 Swimming the English Channel
02:12 The Biggest Mental Struggle
04:08 Gaining Weight to Survive
04:42 Overcoming the Failure
05:28 Success Can Be a Trap
06:36 Growth Needs Harsh Conditions
07:29 Mission: Men's Mental Health
09:13 Talk Less, Move More
11:24 Swimming with His Dad
13:15 Advice for Struggling Youth
14:15 Push Past Comfort Zones
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