Therapist vs. Anti-Therapist | #6

On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and founding drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a respectful debate with the “Anti-Therapist, Therapist” Diana Mandell.

 

Diana’s personal experiences in life have led her into interaction after interaction with poor therapists. She feels that, as a general note, the majority of therapists out there are doing either “nothing” for their clients, or worse… having a negative impact on their clients’ lives in some way. 

 

After Diana’s own life hit rock bottom– losing her business, relationship, friends, home, and more– she decided the only way to move forward was to become her own therapist. Her method proved a success, as she was able to not only dig herself out of the hole, but grow an entire career as a coach on the other side of it.

 

But, as we’ve come to expect on the “Harder to Breathe” Podcast, Ryan and Duck always come prepared with their own distinct points of view. Ryan, as a therapist himself, has personally experienced a selection of really fantastic therapists in his life– many of which are eager to utilize progressive methods and improve their practice for their clients. These differing points of view make for a really great, respectful debate between the “Anti-Therapist”, a Therapist, and Duck, who serves as the much needed voice of the audience.

 

0:00:34 Introduction & Early Rising

0:02:34 Examining Duck’s Frugality

0:07:14 Ryan’s Relationship With Money

0:11:04 Benefits of Having a Rainy-Day Fund

0:14:49 Money as a Stressor

0:15:22 Scarcity Mindset vs. Mindset of Abundance

0:22:54 Today’s Guest: Diana Mandell

 

0:24:46 Diana Mandell joins the Podcast

0:25:54 How Diana Entered the World of Coaching

0:32:03 Recognizing Issues in the Therapy Space vs. Coaching Space

0:33:39 Discrepancies in Level of Client Motivation

0:39:49 Sitting in Trauma vs. Tossing it Out

0:45:04 Combatting Binary Thinking

0:49:20 Overreliance on Outdated Information

0:52:44 Diana’s Education Background

0:58:59 Clarifying Issues Within Therapeutic Education

1:02:04 Ryan’s Experience with Progressive Therapists

1:04:26 Does this Contribute to the Stigmatization of Therapy?

1:19:30 What Business Coaching and Lifestyle Coaching with Diana Looks Like

1:20:54 Reframing & Redirecting

1:32:09 Trickle-Down Behavior

1:33:54 Wrap Up & Conclusion

More on Diana Mandell:

 

Official Website: dianamandell.com/

Instagram: instagram.com/dianamandell/

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dianamandell/

Ready to Dive Deeper?:

https://www.ryandusick.com/

BenBella Books Author Page - https://benbellabooks.com/authors/dusick-ryan/ 

Amazon Book Page - https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/ 

WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/ 

Psychology Today Therapist Profile -