March 14, 2025 • 54 mins
On this episode Lindsay and Ilyse welcome their psychic medium in residence, Tara Bonner of Heartseed Healing and Lindsay's dead mom, who Tara brings right on through from the other side. The besties talk about how mediumship has helped on their grief journeys--whether gaining insight on their love lives, or connecting with a beloved family member or pet. Through Tara, they also get to interview their VIP guest, Karen Camp, whose energy bursts through the pod.
To learn more about Tara Bonners work visit Heartseed Healing and @heartseedhealing on Instagram.
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Thanks for listening.
Welcome to the Hilling Journey Podcast.
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I'm Lindsay Camp.
I'm Ilyse Kennedy.
This is the podcast where two therapist besties
interview those on their hilling journeys and hillers
who have helped along the way.
Today we are talking about mediumship, which
is an avenue that both of us
have gone down in our hilling journeys.
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We've worked with this particular medium before, and she's even
said to us, sometimes I worry that nothing will come
through because I see you guys so often.
And yet we keep hearing from the other side.
Yeah, we're so excited.
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We're here with Tara Bonner.
She's a psychic medium, et cetera.
She'll explain herself in a little bit.
But, Tara, your work has been so important for
me and my grief around losing my mom.
Like, I'm craving more of my mom after she
passed, and our work with her has been in
such a way to get that need met.
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It's been so beautiful.
And the stuff that she's channeled and shared has just,
like, blown my mind and made me cry every time.
It's been just really incredible.
And I never got to meet your mom in this world.
In this world.
And so mediumship has actually been the
only way that I've gotten to meet
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your mom, which has been really special.
We always do our sessions together, and so
I get to witness you in it.
But it's also been, like, I think I've said before, it
kind of feels like we're in high school or something, and
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we're like, over at your house after school, and your mom
is there kind of watching over both of us.
So there's been something really
special about doing this together.
We're like 90 seconds in and I'm crying already.
It's gonna happen. I know.
I love it.
What have you found that you've kind
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of used mediumship for in your grief? Journey. Yeah.
When my mom passed, she was such a big life force
and had so much presence and so much that she gave.
And so when she died, it was like a vacuum.
And I could still, like, feel memories
and stuff like that, but I needed.
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I needed her ongoing.
And so being able to connect with her
through mediumship has given me both her in
this moment and also, like, healing for some
past stuff that I would have never gotten.
I, in my 38 years of life, hadn't
gotten it from her on this earth.
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And so being able to tend to some past
stuff, but also having access to her, like,
moving forward and, like, knowing, like, oh, it's not
done, like, I can connect with her again.
I can connect with her again.
Has been just transformative for my grief.
Like, I'm not just stuck in, oh, I never get her again.
Yeah, there's.
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She's more expansive through the connection.
Mine has come more from a place of anxiety,
and I actually think it's done a lot for,
Well, the self awareness around it has done
a lot for healing my anxious attachment shit.
Name Em.
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Often when I'm connecting to the other side,
it's usually my grandparents who are coming through.
And it's been funny because my grandfather is
always is trying to give financial advice,
which makes a lot of sense.
And then my grandmother, even from the other side, she's
like, oh, I don't know if I should come in.
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And she has this very
gentle presence that's really sweet.
But usually I'm trying to get a grasp
on what's happening in my love life, and
it purely comes from a place of anxiety.
You're using our precious minutes with Tara on
the other side to figure out what 832
and 512 and 617 are up to.
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Yes, I..
I hear that. I hear that.
And I'm taking it in.
And so far, nothing has
proven fruitful, so that's okay.
Although we've heard for a few.
A few sessions that something
is going down in February. That's right.
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We're, like, a week away. You have something.
So I'm ready. In February. I'm ready.
Anything that happens this week isn't gonna
count because February is the month.
You should just stay home this week, maybe.
Well, I mean, I won't
take anything seriously this week.
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Okay, well, let's welcome today's guest,
Tara Bonner of Heartseed Healing. Hi, y'all.
Oh, we're so glad to have you, Tara.
It's good to be here. So glad to have you.
And look, we're all dressed up, not in our pajamas.
Proud of us.
All right, Tara, tell us a little bit
about what you do, who you are.
So, I'm Tara Bonner, I am a psychic medium, a
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tarot reader, and also an intuitive energy worker.
My story is wild, how we got here,
but basically, I started Heart Seed Healing officially
maybe two, two and a half years ago. Congrats.
Thank you.
It's been very exciting.
Interestingly enough, I was working on some trademark material
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and was asked, when was the first time that
you used this trademark of Heart Seed Healing and
when did you provide it publicly?
And it was fascinating because I had to go back through
a bunch of documents and I found a note from 2018. Yep.
That had Heart Seed Healing with the question mark.
I remember specifically it came to me during a meditation,
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and I had no clue what it was for.
I was not actively doing this work.
I had just started my journey as a
Reiki healer, and boom, there it was.
And so it was really exciting to kind of look
back and just flash forward to see how really just
a little seed literally has sprouted and grown.
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So it's pretty cool.
So, yep, I absolutely do psychic mediumship, where I
connect with the other side, past loved ones.
Sometimes we hear from folks we
do not expect to hear from.
One of my experiences was with
very famous psychic medium John Edwards.
My grandmother came through, which
I was very grateful for.
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It was a very large group.
And then my best friend's late ex husband came through, who
was the last person that I wanted to hear from.
However, that was a lesson on multiple levels, but I
feel like that was the true connection where I knew
this is real because I was receiving it personally.
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You know, I feel like skepticism is beautiful.
I think it's important.
Cynicism is where I just get exhausted by.
I mean, really. Yeah.
And I think that's with anything, but
specifically around the work that I do.
So, yeah, it's John Edwards.
Speaking of, he actually said
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He brought those two in.
He read someone else.
He comes back and he points directly at
me and he says, you're a healer.
He's like, you're going to be doing something
similar to Reiki, but not exactly Reiki.
And here I am less than a decade later.
I thought he'd lost his damn mind.
And here we are. Oh, dear.
So, yeah, it's been pretty cool
just to watch it all happen.
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A friend of mine calls me QT Quantum Tara
because she's like, what you have done in the
last two years has taken me a decade.
So I feel like Once we're on
our paths, things just align and unfold.
So John Edwards was the start.
When did you first discover your
gift as a psychic medium? Yeah.
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So in retrospect, I've always been sensitive.
My go to story that I share with folks when
they ask is if I rewind back to seventh grade.
I was in English class, and it was
the year of the Olympics, and the teacher
had posters of Olympians atop of the classroom.
And out of nowhere, I look to the little
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girl next to me, and I point to a
guy who's pole vaulting, and I remember kind of
like nervously giggling and saying, doesn't it look like
that man's falling from a telephone pole, y'all?
She burst into tears.
Her father had literally just passed
from falling from a telephone pole.
So I got goosey.
To this day when I tell this story. Yeah.
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And so, you know, in retrospect, I feel like
there were things around me, obviously like that, but
I just would pass it off as odd coincidence.
Another time, I remember, I think I was in
high school, and my father had walked in to
tell me that someone's mom had passed.
And I thought we'd already had
the conversation because I just.
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It's knowing, right?
It's that intuition.
So it's been around.
But I think it was back in 2017, I actually, it was
after John Edward, when he told me that, funny enough, that day
I had read an article in O Magazine about a Reiki healer
who quit her day job and did that full time.
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She was having some health issues, and I
was kind of dealing with some thyroid issues
and all over the place at the time.
And other than that, y'all, I
really didn't know what Reiki was.
I had massage therapists, and I'd heard the word,
but I didn't really know what it was.
And so for him to point to me that day
and say, hey, this is what your path is.
Again, I thought he was out of his mind.
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What path were you?
Sorry to interrupt you, but what path were you on?
What were you up to?
Yeah, good question.
You name it, I've done it.
I've been a Realtor, I've been a property manager.
I've been a leasing agent.
So a lot of real estate.
The job before this last one, I was in
corporate America behind a computer in a cubicle, and
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talk about being a sensitive in corporate America.
Overhead. Holy crap, y'all. Yeah, all of it.
Literally, there was a guy next
to me who likes to drink, and I could feel it.
And so that was part of My path.
So John Edwards says, hey, you're
going to be a Reiki healer.
And I was like, okay, yeah, sure.
Well, I went and checked out what Reiki was, and
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I tell my clients who come in for energy sessions.
I was like, the first time I had Reiki,
I thought it was a load of shit.
I was like, it was an old smelly lady
who just kept saying, can you feel that?
Can you feel that?
I was like, I got nothing.
In retrospect, I do feel like there was some clearing
and some work done, but when you don't know what
to expect, it's kind of weird the first couple times.
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And so, yeah, after that, I was curious.
And so I ended up finding.
I saw a psychic medium and found
out she was a Reiki teacher.
So I also lost my mom when I was younger. I was 15.
And that's how I found John Edward, because he
had that famous show Crossing over in the 90s.
And that's where it was kind of a connection.
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Even though it wasn't personal, it was still
a connection to realize that there was more.
So I ended up going through my Reiki classes.
Three of them, I think.
One, two, and then Reiki master.
And when I was working on students, my
left knee in one particular case early on
kept wanting to literally block out on me.
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And I finally was just like, what is up with my knee?
And the guy next to me was like, ask.
Ask the student who you're working
on what's up with her knee.
And sure enough, she had had six knee surgeries.
And so that's when I realized what a true empath I was.
To and to this day, one of my
main Claires is clairsentience, where I feel things.
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So if I've got a spirit who's coming in, usually
I feel in my body either something that was happening
in their life or something around their passing.
And so the catch is, I didn't know to clear
my energy afterwards, so I literally hobbled for a week.
Now I've learned to clear the
energy and, like, move forward.
So, yeah, it's pretty wild.
Just the random way, random way that I got here.
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But I tell people, and I really, genuinely
believe this, if there's something that you enjoy,
something that you like, that makes heart sparks.
And literally, if we follow those heart sparks, what
it does, it ignites that next little fire.
And then before you know it,
your entire path is well lit.
And that's exactly how I've gotten to where I am.
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We, like, yapping together.
So this is Our heart spark. Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. I love it. Absolutely. And it will
it will continue.
just to light the way.
I've got a pop in question.
So you mentioned Claire. Tell me again which one. Yep.
Clairesentience. And that's?
Yeah, I will do my best. What do you think?
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I am a professional.
So clairesentience, again, that's where I feel.
And again I--
People ask me, does it hurt?
For the most part, no.
It's just like I may lose my breath
if I've got someone who had breathing issues,
but it's very quick and passing.
So that is one of my main claires.
Another one of my main claires
has been really tricky for me.
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It is clairecognizance.
And that is where you just kind of get
a download, a drop in and you know something
and you have no clue how you get that.
And then there's clairvoyance where we see.
And so the way that works for me, for instance,
I just brought through a woman a couple of weeks
ago who I knew that there was a trach involved.
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And so I could feel it first.
And so I was like, that's what
I think a trach would feel like.
And then when I was second guessing myself, my
guides, who I call team spirit, literally flashed me
the commercial from the 80s with a woman who
was smoking a cigarette through her trach.
And so that was the clairvoyance for me.
It was just that little like, yep, this is it.
And so those two work together.
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And then I knew to talk about a tracheotomy. Right.
And then there's clairaudience, where you hear.
Some people I'm so envious of, they
literally can hear, like word for word.
I don't get that.
I will get like song clips.
And a lot of times I even tell my
clients, like, you'll hear me say, well, they're saying.
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And that's really more of my claircognizance, where I just know. So.
But I've learned just for humans, it's much easier just
to say, I'm hearing what they're saying, because it is.
It comes out so clear.
So, yeah, I think.
I think I covered them all. I also--
there's another one and I can't remember what it's
called, but where I can get smells occasionally too.
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Yeah, can't remember.
So how do you think meeting with a medium
can help somebody move through their grieving process?
Yeah, I love that question.
So I think a big one, honestly, is it allows
you to access a part of you that maybe isn't
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Readily available at all times, if that makes sense.
It can definitely bring up memories.
And I think memories in general
are just such a beautiful gift.
As someone who actually had brain surgery several years ago,
there was a short time where I had no memory
with like short term memory, some long term memory.
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And now I know what a true gift it is,
but I feel like just those little snippets of like,
I worked with a woman yesterday and her late husband
came through and the man was hysterical. Hysterical.
And so with a
good medium, I feel like one of the things
that we try to do is kind of bring through
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their personalities as well, you know what I mean?
And so this guy was cracking jokes left and right.
Some of it was so inappropriate,
I didn't want to share it.
But like, it was.
But that's how he was, you know.
And funny story in particular with this one.
I tend to meditate ahead of time and just kind
of get anything that's kind of floating in the ethers.
And I wrote down hamburger.
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And I was like, the hell is this?
I never know really what's coming through.
So I'm talking to her and I was like,
there's something around a joke in a hamburger.
And she's like, I got nothing.
And so she was actually an energy session client.
She's on my table and I'm working through her,
and all of a sudden she's like, the hamburger.
And I was like, what?
And she's like, we would get drunk and
we would be in Ubers and we would
go through the drive through at Whataburger.
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And it was always a thing.
She's like, but I video edit.
She was like, I have multiple videos of this.
And we were laughing hysterically as we went.
So it's just those little things.
But it totally brought up that memory and
was also proof to her that he knows
that she's still watching those videos.
It was so beautiful.
I mean, yeah, it's so great.
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I love it.
So, yeah, I feel like, again, memory
is such a positive, sometimes negative emotion.
But I think it's so important to feel, and that's
what mediumship does, is it really helps people feel.
Is there anything else that's such
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an important piece for people grieving?
I think sometimes we,
Like, it's hard to feel it.
Sure, absolutely. Yeah.
I will say I think that is one of the hardest pieces
for me as a medium, working with people who are grieving.
You know, they feel like they have
to come through me to feel.
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But I really try to remind people that we can still
get those little snippets of folks around us, but we kind
of have to tune in a little bit more.
You know, it's like, you're not going to
get hit in the face with a cardinal.
I mean, some people, cardinals really are
a sign, you know what I mean?
But I think it's just those
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subtleties, and that is the difference.
That's the one thing that I was actually just talking
to one of my best friends today about meditation.
She's like, when I meditate, I get nothing.
It's just blank.
I was like, that's how it's supposed to be, you know?
I was like, you're expecting, like an alien to fall out of
the sky and smack you and give you all this stuff.
I was like, it doesn't work like that.
Literally, the messages come through so subtly, and the
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more you use your intuition, your third eye, the
stronger it gets, just like any muscle.
And I mean, I've even watched it in the last two years.
It's night and day how I can bring through.
Probably even since I started working with y'all,
I feel like it shifted a little bit.
And just the way that I receive information, I
also always set the intention to help me translate
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and clearly communicate whatever messages come through, because, again,
I don't hear word for word.
So I'm getting snippets of my memories.
One of you.
I can't remember which one.
And that's the other thing.
A lot of times I don't remember
what comes through my sessions, because it
literally comes through through you.
But I remember this specifically because my
grandmother, 1980s grandmother, wore gaudy jewelry.
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And one of you, you have a
grandmother who wears, like, costume jewelry.
And so it's funny, that's kind of one of
those things that I feel like we talked about.
And so, you know, it's just those little details.
It's like not every grandmother in the 80s
wore gaudy costume jewelry, but mine sure did.
And I love that they use my grandmother, who's also
on the other side, to bring through messages like that.
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What else have you learned about grief in this work?
Yeah.
So who also.
Because, you know, I am a psychic medium,
but I also do the intuitive energy work.
And so that's along the lines of Reiki.
What I do isn't exactly like it,
but that's where I got my foundation.
So I work through the different chakras, and
I receive information kind of as I'm going.
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That's why I call it an energy session and not Reiki.
Because it's definitely not like your average Reiki session,
because I tend to channel and get information.
And of course, when we get to that
heart chakra, that's where we have a whole
lot of wounds, for lack of better term.
But that's a space where I can feel grief.
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And even personally, I went through
a divorce a few years ago.
Man, talk about grief.
You know what I mean?
So, of course there's heartache in multiple ways,
but also, even when you don't have technically
heartache in losing a lover or losing a
family member to death or otherwise, because obviously
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grief comes up in other ways as well.
But it is.
I feel like it's just one of those things that
is so important to feel, and I think so many
of us are so good at just blocking it.
I drank for a year.
I was a heavy drinker.
In retrospect, I was. That's--
I was just numbing, numbing, numbing, numbing,
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you know, and we all have our.
Our vices and our moments, but that was one
way that I just kept closing it in.
But another way that people grieve is not having their life
look the way that they thought it was going to be.
That's a big one.
You know, I have.
People just straight up tell me, I'm so jealous of what
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you do and how you do it and this and that.
I also put a lot of work into it.
You know, yes, I have intuition that's
a little bit more heightened than.
But just like a sports player or a
musician, I practice it and it's gotten better. Right.
And so.
But I feel like sometimes people think, oh, I'm
going to be married by the time I'm 25.
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I'm going to have children by the time I'm 32.
I'm going to have this house,
I'm going to have this promotion.
And if it doesn't go, people grieve that.
And it's interesting because again, I feel and read
energy, and it shows up in our chakras and
it literally will get kind of stuck stack.
So I love when people come in and that stuff comes
out because we can literally just kind of help clear it.
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And I think, you know, I also read tarot.
And so through the tarot and the energy
work, it's like such a reflective space for
people to really, like, delve in.
Like with tarot, for example, I always.
I pull past current, future and then flip the bottom
deck to kind of see what else is going on.
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People get really anxious about that future card.
But I tell them we still have free will.
And so literally, if I pull something that
you like, use that to your advantage.
Use that energy and pull it in.
If I pull something you don't like it, change it.
You know what I mean?
And I genuinely believe that.
I do feel like there are certain folks
that rely completely on what psychics say.
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And I do believe.
Get a look.
But I do believe that, like, what psychics, a
good psychic or a true psychic, I should say
we do actually get glimpses of the future.
But with that being said, I also feel
like there's always four or five different paths,
and literally things can shift or change.
So what we are reading is
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literally what is currently on par.
But that doesn't mean you're going to not want a coffee
and pull off on the side of the road, stop, hang
out here for a little bit, and that reroute you.
You know what I mean?
One thing that's really interesting is.
So I know you probably wouldn't remember this,
but I first came upon Tara at--
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I went to a birthday party, a
birthday party, and she was reading tarot.
And I still have the picture in my phone, but I
can also, like, I have the image of that card pull.
And when you pulled my cards, I was in the
midst of, like, a very difficult, chaotic time that
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didn't end up culminating until August, or I guess it
was September when I had my pulmonary embolism.
But in that card poll, I remember,
one of my future cards was the sun.
And that kept coming to me as
a symbol in different ways throughout the year.
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And it matches your Leo.
It does match my Leo, too.
And also, just for people who don't know what the
sun card represents in tarot, that's joy and happiness.
Yeah. I literally--
I smile so big when that card comes out
because it usually means that we're moving into a
brighter space or we've arrived at a brighter space.
Yeah.
But what I took from that and what usually
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I get when I'm seeking something through the cards
or through connecting with the other side is
it gives me a lot of hope.
I think I still held that image of that
card pull because I was like, okay, I'm in a
really tough time right now, but something is telling me
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that I'm going to pull the sun card out. Yes.
Well, I mean, really, the sun came out.
Like, I did get,
I did move through the tough time.
And I'm experiencing now what the cards had said.
But I think even that hopeful outlook, not to
be a silver lining or to push down trauma.
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But it can just be like a comfort that
right now I'm in a really difficult season, but
the sun card is coming or whatever it is.
Like your February love story. Yeah. Yeah.
And so to speak of that, funny enough, as
you were talking about that, I got another month.
And so with that being said, that doesn't mean that
you won't meet that person in February, but the month
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of May feels significant for you as well. So who knows?
That could be next level. Right? Yeah. So.
And that's also Camilla's birthday
month, my daughter's birthday month.
I love that.
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So we're gonna
shift into seeing what happens
in a little mediumship session. Cool.
So I know I've worked with y'all obviously
before, and I always get nervous with y'all
because I work with you so often,
we're going to run out of folks.
So with that being said, keep an open mind.
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So far, so good, right?
You know, and that's the other thing is
as part of my journey is just having
to learn to lean in and trust spirit.
And so only one time did someone not come through
and come to find out she hadn't lost anyone.
And so I was like, okay, that makes sense.
She was there for our energy session.
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So couple of just ground rules just to kind of
get an idea of what I usually tell folks.
So my joke is don't feed the Medium.
Unless it's tacos.
With that being said, sometimes people get really
excited when I start making connections and literally
give me the whole life story.
And I'm like, what am I here for?
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You know, with that being said, I also, and
I will say, always speak on behalf of spirit.
I do appreciate.
Yep, I can take that.
Nope, that doesn't make sense.
You know, I've worked with you both, so
I know that I've quote, unquote proven myself.
But, you know, especially, like I said, if
I've got a skeptic, I want to be
able to give at least enough information to
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where, like, yep, that's definitely so and so.
So never know who can come through.
It can be someone close to us. Literally.
A couple of weeks ago,
I brought through someone's electrician.
So, but interesting story with that.
I was like, why is your electrician coming through?
And I mean, I had specifics around their passing.
It was a weird passing.
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So it was without a doubt who it was.
And it was basically them coming through with
the message, letting her know that her kindness
rippled in places that she didn't even realize.
Yeah, I mean, really just beautiful.
You know, her electrician obviously was the last
person in the world she expected to hear
from, but that's exactly what his message was.
I got goosey. Isn't that beautiful? That's. Yeah.
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It's so cool. I get
I learn every day.
It's so rad.
So with that being said, keep an open mind.
I've also learned to say I've
got more feminine or masculine energy.
Part of that is obviously because folks are also non
binary, but also because I've had some really masculine grandmas
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come through and I clocked them for Grandpa's.
So keep that open mind.
Usually I can kind of tune
in and get information like that.
Another thing, you know, every medium
is different how we receive information.
Some people are really great with names.
Me, not so much.
I play a really great violin, but I'm
not great at the stand up bass.
And so it's just a different skill set.
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With that being said earlier, I did kind of have
a name, but that could be associated with something else.
So we'll kind of go from there.
Any questions? No.
All right, so I actually am going to just kind of
give us a minute and just kind of blend our energies.
I know we did this before the start of the
podcast, but I'd still like to kind of do that
now and just kind of recenter us and refocus.
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So what I like to do Is just envision from the
base of your spine, bottom of your feet, roots going down.
And then we're going to wrap around the core of
the earth, Bring that energy up through the center of
our body, hold our breath, and then pop it off
the top of your head like a fountain.
Include us in the bubble and anyone else
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you would like to step forward, wrap back
around, nice, slow, easy inhale, 2, 3, 4.
Fountain at the top of your head, and then one more.
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All right, thanks.
All right, let's see what we've got.
So I do tend to meditate ahead of
time and kind of write down some things.
So I'm going to go off of one that was kind
of coming through earlier, and then we'll go from there.
I feel like it's feminine energy.
I also feel like I've got high blood pressure or
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some kind of levels that are going up and down.
Definitely feels more like high blood pressure.
Also headache and nausea.
Definitely feel nauseated if I start gagging.
That's why.
And yeah, really bad headache.
I actually wonder if.
And I do feel like I've got a woman.
I do feel like I wonder if she
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had a stroke or something neurological as well.
Does this make sense for either of you?
Usually with health stuff, it's my mom, but
I don't want to jump to that. Yeah. So.
But then I'll those all tracking.
I wouldn't be shocked if your mom's like, of
course I'm going to be here at the table
at this podcast, because that's how that works.
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But she's usually busting in.
Yeah, she's exactly. She's usually.
It's funny, you're wearing red, and that
is definitely one of her colors. I know. Oh, you do?
Yeah.
No, she literally, like, that is one of her colors.
Honey is red.
Like, she's got that big, bright, bold energy, so.
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's with you.
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All right, so let's keep going with this.
And I am covered in my
gooseies, which is my check mark.
So can I have her first name? Karen.
Hi, Karen.
So a couple of the ways that folks will kind
of bring through information, they'll give me numbers and sets.
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And so a lot of times we're talking about
the amount of children or grandchildren or even siblings.
Were there three of you?
You, Trevor, Shailey. Oh, there's three.
Well, yeah, kind of.
There's a couple different ways. Yeah. Okay.
Feels like three children is kind
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of what are being grouped in.
Yeah, she claims Shaylie, so. Yes. Yeah.
And so that's the other beautiful thing
that I've learned in doing this work.
Sometimes they will literally still claim
people on the other side.
And also the tragedy of it is they
will also claim children that they've lost.
So either.
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Yeah, you get the idea.
Well, Shaylee's my sister in law.
She's still with us. Absolutely. Thankfully. Yeah. So.
Yeah. But I do.
I feel like she's highlighting the three children,
so that totally makes sense to me.
Why'd you draw.
Can I ask why you drew a heart?
It just came out. Hearts were her. Like.
Is that her thing? Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go.
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They're all over our house.
Like, it's.
Yeah, it was one of the last.
She bought a bunch of these glass hearts before
she died and she gave them to everybody and
she was like, this is like, these are,
Hearts are so important to me and
I want everybody to have one. I love that.
Yeah, no, it literally just came
out whenever I wrote it there.
I do write a lot of hearts.
I'm heart seed healing.
But that one, like, automatically
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just was like, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I love that.
And that's one of those little ways.
So that's another great example.
So, yes, you're sitting here with me.
You saw this.
But when you start seeing the repetitive patterns, that is
another way that spirit will talk to you, you know?
So for you, it's hearts.
I bet you see hearts in places that
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you would have never seen hearts before.
But it literally just kind of refocuses our
filter is the best way to describe it.
So I actually love that you brought that up.
Was she a smoker or have breathing issues?
Breathing issues? Yes.
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Marijuana in her younger years.
It's not that I know what that
feels like from my younger years.
Breathing issues is literally just kind
of what's coming through.
And I know that I mentioned a stroke.
Did you have something neurological
or a stroke as well?
Neurological, yes. Okay.
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So for me personally, anytime that the left side of
my head kind of use the term lights up.
That to me is a signifier of neuro issues.
So with that, I always kind of dig in.
I usually say it's either dementia, stroke,
possibly an aneurysm, that type of energy.
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And so, yeah, that's one of those spaces
that I feel that in my body.
And I know this is annoying too, because literally, I'm
sure that we go through this every single time.
And it's, you know, and it's one of
the things that's uncomfortable for those who kind
of have to rehear what was happening.
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But it's also just one of the ways
that they show that, yep, this is. Is legit. Me.
This is, you know, it's one of those proofs.
So I know you're wearing red,
and we already talked about red.
Do you or did she have red shoes?
Red shoes is coming through as well. Yeah.
Like, either it was a thing, or there's
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a photograph of red shoes specifically, and it
doesn't feel like Dorothy's red shoes.
Funny enough, I keep hearing this song.
Here's that clear audience.
Put on your red shoes and dance with me.
Me, David Bowie.
So, yeah, I feel like there's something either
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significant around that song or Red Shoes specifically.
Again, it doesn't feel like
Dorothy and the ruby slippers.
So put that in your pocket for later.
I can send you home with this as well.
Normally, I get you guys to take notes.
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I also feel really. I'm sorry, I'm going to keep
talking about how I'm feeling.
I also feel really dizzy.
Does that make sense? Yeah.
And with her passing, feels like a very quick decline.
Does that make sense to you?
Like, we're going along, okay.
And then, like, within a week, even, it's just,
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like, everything just kind of starts to shut down.
Does that make sense?
I'm sorry, honey.
I made cookies with my mom, particularly.
She would make the oatmeal, and I
would make the chocolate chip cookies.
And it was always kind of like, you're better at that.
You're better at that.
Was there something like that where one of you would,
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like, always, like, you were known for this, and if
you tried to do it, you'd screw it up.
Does that make sense?
Because for some reason, I'm literally seeing, like,
the chocolate chip cookies and the oatmeal cookies.
So there's.
I feel like there's either a story around, like,
you tried to make something and it just wasn't.
Did not come to par even
possibly with a recent holiday.
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Did you recreate something,
like, around maybe Thanksgiving? Yeah. Okay.
What was that?
A toll house pie?
Okay, there's the cookies.
I was like, all right. Yeah. And it flopped. It flopped.
Yeah.
That's exactly what this feels like.
I was like, nope, something did not go right.
And I kept seeing chocolate chip cookies.
So that makes sense. Yeah.
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She's teasing you. She sure is. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know if she was much of a cook, though.
Oh, she was, was she?
She'll correct you on that.
I was gonna say, give me a second.
She'll put me in my place.
Maybe she's teasing you because you,
I'm gonna say it, because you fucked up a toll house.
That is literally what that is. Does she have...
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Is she giving me a little
too big for your britches energy?
I don't know. You tell me. Yeah.
And so that's the other part. Right.
Like, this is the beautiful part about women
connect, is that we can, like, genuinely feel
and you get your own messages.
We start to second guess ourselves.
But if we just kind of tune in, you heard it. Right.
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And so it's kind of that energy.
Let's see.
All right, Karen.
Okay. I feel like we're going back
to weird, like, childhood memories.
I was at Six Flags as a kid, and I
grabbed my grandfather's hand and started walking with him.
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And I looked up and it was a stranger.
Is there something like that?
Like, that's exactly how she's showing me.
It's like a moment where you, like, either
wandered off with the wrong family or you
wandered off with the wrong person. I know.
That's very particular.
And also, stay open.
This could be a message for you as well.
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I'm not...
I'm not recalling.
I'm not recalling. Okay.
I mean, it's so specific.
And it was me that wandered off.
Well, they're showing me one of my
memories, and so that's how that works.
But I feel like it,
or there's a story around someone wandering off with
another family is literally what it feels like.
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My brother. Okay.
I was like, someone wandered off with another family.
And it was a whole thing.
It was a huge thing. Okay.
Like, I feel like it was even
teased, like, well, you can have them.
But yeah, it's.
It's a whole thing.
That's why it's being brought up. Yeah.
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It's actually.
That's one of my first memories of panic in
my body and anxiety, and I could feel my
parents anxiety, and mine was just going up, up,
up, because I could feel theirs. You could feel theirs.
That's being an empath right there. I know.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But I want to say she's kind of laughing about it now.
It's like, literally like.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was so specific.
Like, I.
They literally just showed me a memory
of me, like, walking along with someone
else's grandpa thinking it was mine.
Okay, let's see what else we have.
Did you have communication issues with her, or
did she have issues either difficult communicating through
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life or towards the end of her life? Yes. Yeah. Tara.
Yeah.
My throat is literally like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't mean to come off snarky on you.
I didn't, I didn't take it that way.
But funny enough, I feel like that's
also how she would have answered.
Absolutely.
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Yeah. Yeah.
It was like almost the same tone on
her side whenever I asked the question. Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm sorry.
But yeah, my throat was literally like,
And I was like, I don't--
I don't think this is physical.
I feel like this is communication issues.
All right, let's see what else we have.
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I've got, like, feel like I'm having
parties, not just like Christmas or Thanksgiving.
I feel like I've got parties and
I've got like dishes for the parties. Is this you?
Possibly.
Do you have those dishes?
Yeah, yeah.
Funny enough, she's like, why aren't you using them?
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Well, because they're in California
at my ex husband's house.
They're on their way to me. Okay.
They're on their...Yeah. Okay.
Have a party when you get them. Yeah.
Literally, that's what that feels like.
I was like, why aren't you using the dishes?
Is literally how it was coming through.
They're in a box. Yeah.
They're on their way. Beautiful. I love it.
(43:59):
Literally, have a party. Yeah. Yeah.
She's the hostess with the most.
This is what she's bragging at.
Yeah, she was.
She was a little socialite and that's how it feels.
But yeah, I was like, there's something with dishes
and someone has them and is not using them. Them.
So that makes sense.
Do you know if there's also a set of
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crystal glasses along with this, like drinking glasses?
I'm not sure.
Or I know that you said your ex husband.
Did you toast with like, hand me down.
Crystal glasses?
There's something about a set of crystals.
(44:40):
Crystal glasses.
And I feel like it's two
fancy champagne, but not quite champagne. Okay.
Put that in your pocket.
I feel like it's going to come
up in some form of fashion.
And again, it feels like I. I do.
I really feel like we toasted.
(45:03):
Not you, obviously, but we toasted with like,
that was the something old, something borrowed.
It's kind of like along the lines of that,
but again, it feels like crystal or crystal glasses.
Anyone in your family that you can think of? No. Okay.
(45:24):
She would have had all of that, but
I don't have a super clear no connection.
Again, it really. It does.
It feels like I'm using it to toast like at a wedding.
So maybe you're getting remarried and maybe we do that.
I don't know.
But how dare you.
Past, present, future, it's all a blur.
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Is your dad dating?
Yes.
Yeah, mom just brought that through.
What'd she say?
Are they talking about actually moving in together?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that feels good.
Just FYI. Yeah. Yeah.
It feels like once we wrap up, it's
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like, all right, let's give this a whirl.
Are you having issues with him leaving the house?
Kind of. Kind of, yeah. Yeah.
Literally, it's like.
And it's interesting.
I don't know if he's actually gonna sell
it, but feels like there's concern specifically around
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you and the absence of that energy there.
With that being said, she's with
you anywhere that you are. Yeah.
I feel like that's a very specific message for today.
I think that's why we went down this path. Yeah.
So literally, it's like the memories
will still be with you.
We talked about memories of the beginning of the hour.
Yeah, I've said that to my dad before. That there's.
(46:57):
Yeah.
That I have so much attachment to the house because of
her, but I also know that she's with me everywhere else,
but there's, like, I just really feel her there.
I understand.
Yeah, absolutely. And so.
But I think that's why she's bringing this up.
It's like, literally, like, it's going to be okay.
I promise you. I'll go with you.
And you can take things from the home as well.
I feel like your dad will
easily give you whatever you want.
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One of them.
Have a dog.
Tara, stop.
I was literally just.
I was like, we're gonna have a dog.
There's a dog piece about to come.
And I was thinking about.
Because I have the belief that Ilyse's dog,
When she passed, my mom greeted her.
And so I was literally just
thinking about that right now. Yeah. So. Yep.
(47:42):
There's something around a dog. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's interesting that you were, like, just thinking about
it, and I'm like, let's talk about the dog. Literally.
Literally. I was like, I'm gonna ask.
I'm gonna ask.
That's funny.
So what were you gonna ask?
I wanted to ask, like.
Yeah, I just was curious if my mom wants
to share anything about the dogs that she's got. Okay.
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With her, because there's.
She's got dogs with her.
And I'm just curious if she wants to talk about that.
Was one known for peeing, probably.
Dreidel--dreidey girl. Yeah.
Like, I smell pee. Dog pee. Yeah.
It's probably my dog. Yeah.
I'm Like, I smell dog pee. Yeah.
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I have a cat that I love, and I
tell her she's almost perfect every day, but she
poops about 2ft away from the box most days.
And that's kind of the energy of this.
It's like, yeah, I could, but I didn't.
That's very Dreidy. She did it to
spite my ex-husband. Yeah.
That's what this feels like.
It's like, I could, but I didn't. Yeah.
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Yeah.
Was she a little heavier for what she was?
She fluctuated in weight.
She had some people told her to lose a few lb's
She feels a little fluffy. Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
So either actually fluffy or fluffy or both. Yeah.
Curly hair, poodle in her.
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And would she have been a lighter color? Yes.
Golden white. Okay.
I was like, white or golden is literally.
She's like, I was an angel.
Yeah.
Golden is literally how she's coming through.
And I think it's like that angelic energy.
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That's hysterical.
Trying to be sensitive in how I word this.
Do you feel like you waited a little too long for her?
The end of her life...a little too long.
That's how it feels. Yeah.
With that being said, she's fine with it,
but she's just acknowledging, like, we stretched it
(49:55):
out a little longer than we should have. Yeah.
And you knew it. Yeah.
Did her collar have a bow on it?
She was your little girl. Little girl.
Like, that's how she's--
I was her little girl.
Was she there before your children?
Yeah, she was like, no, I
was the first, like, little girl.
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Did she get grumpy at the end?
Yeah, she always was a little grumpy.
Like, I'm literally seeing, like, a snarl.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Did her teeth give her issues?
Sure did.
With all this being said, she'll see you again. Yeah.
Literally, she's going to be there to
greet you when it's your time.
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Boing, boing, boing, boing.
What was her name? Dreidel. Adorable.
Three dogs with your mom literally buried
with her, like, in her casket. There we go.
I was like, she was talking about three dogs.
I love that.
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I always have tissues with me, and
I don't have any with me.
They're in the other room.
Yeah.
She's highlighting the three dogs.
I can't believe that they were with her. Literally.
That's amazing. We put them. Yeah. When we.
When we buried her, we took them to the guy.
We were like, can you put these in her casket?
Yeah, yeah.
She's highlighting the three dogs. Yeah.
(51:24):
I like I can't emphasize enough how
big of a dog person she was.
Yeah, she has a good sense of humor
now because we talked about the three dogs.
Literally keep hearing three dog night.
And with that being said, I think she's
literally just trying to lighten them mood.
I don't think she was comfortable being uncomfortable.
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Nope.
All right, y'all, I think that's what I got.
Unless there's anyone else you
were hoping to hear from?
I don't think so.
Tara, thank you so much.
I need a nap. Uhhuh.
I feel like you just worked hard.
Definitely you just worked hard.
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Where can our listeners find you?
Heartseedhealing.com and I'm also on social media, Instagram and
I will post every usually Sunday evening by Monday
morning where I'm going to be that week. So I do--
I've got two tarot residencies.
One of them is at Brentwood Social
(52:28):
House on Thursdays from 11 to 2.
And then I moved tarot Tuesdays to
Thursday nights at House Wine south.
First they moved super great bigger location.
So that's exciting.
And then I usually do at least two different
pop ups around town, sometimes as far south as
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New Braunfels and that again will be posted.
And then I also, I'm starting to kind of enter
into some group mediumship where I read for folks.
So like on the, the 15th or 16th of the
month of February, I will be at the Herb Bar
and I'm gonna keep it nice and intimate with like
12 folks and literally just kind of like this.
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See who comes through and go from there.
Looking forward to that.
I also offer, I love doing group mediumships.
So for families or just a group of friends,
nice kind of unique way of doing things.
And then of course with my tarot, I do parties.
That's how I met you, Ilyse. Yeah.
So yeah, that's around town and was super honored.
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So I've only been doing this for a couple of
years and my very first full year I got voted
as one of the top psychics in the Austin Chronicle.
Yes, you did! And psychic. So.
And that's coming around again.
So I hope to be nominated again.
Absolutely. Yeah. Super fun.
Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much for being.
Absolutely love y'all.
I love connecting with you.
It's funny when I'm in their energy, I feel like
I'm in your family, you know, so it's, it's beautiful.
So.
But they're always around us.
Just remember that if you take anything away, you know,
and you can talk to them, they hear us.
I really, genuinely believe that.
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Whether we say it out loud, we say it in our head.
It's all telepathic.
Thank you for that reminder. You're welcome.
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Welcome to the Hilling Journey Podcast.
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I'm Lindsay Camp.
I'm Ilyse Kennedy.
This is the podcast where two therapist besties
interview those on their hilling journeys and hillers
who have helped along the way.
Today we are talking about mediumship, which
is an avenue that both of us
have gone down in our hilling journeys.
(01:15):
We've worked with this particular medium before, and she's even
said to us, sometimes I worry that nothing will come
through because I see you guys so often.
And yet we keep hearing from the other side.
Yeah, we're so excited.
(01:36):
We're here with Tara Bonner.
She's a psychic medium, et cetera.
She'll explain herself in a little bit.
But, Tara, your work has been so important for
me and my grief around losing my mom.
Like, I'm craving more of my mom after she
passed, and our work with her has been in
such a way to get that need met.
(01:57):
It's been so beautiful.
And the stuff that she's channeled and shared has just,
like, blown my mind and made me cry every time.
It's been just really incredible.
And I never got to meet your mom in this world.
In this world.
And so mediumship has actually been the
only way that I've gotten to meet
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your mom, which has been really special.
We always do our sessions together, and so
I get to witness you in it.
But it's also been, like, I think I've said before, it
kind of feels like we're in high school or something, and
(02:41):
we're like, over at your house after school, and your mom
is there kind of watching over both of us.
So there's been something really
special about doing this together.
We're like 90 seconds in and I'm crying already.
It's gonna happen. I know.
I love it.
What have you found that you've kind
(03:03):
of used mediumship for in your grief? Journey. Yeah.
When my mom passed, she was such a big life force
and had so much presence and so much that she gave.
And so when she died, it was like a vacuum.
And I could still, like, feel memories
and stuff like that, but I needed.
(03:25):
I needed her ongoing.
And so being able to connect with her
through mediumship has given me both her in
this moment and also, like, healing for some
past stuff that I would have never gotten.
I, in my 38 years of life, hadn't
gotten it from her on this earth.
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And so being able to tend to some past
stuff, but also having access to her, like,
moving forward and, like, knowing, like, oh, it's not
done, like, I can connect with her again.
I can connect with her again.
Has been just transformative for my grief.
Like, I'm not just stuck in, oh, I never get her again.
Yeah, there's.
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She's more expansive through the connection.
Mine has come more from a place of anxiety,
and I actually think it's done a lot for,
Well, the self awareness around it has done
a lot for healing my anxious attachment shit.
Name Em.
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Often when I'm connecting to the other side,
it's usually my grandparents who are coming through.
And it's been funny because my grandfather is
always is trying to give financial advice,
which makes a lot of sense.
And then my grandmother, even from the other side, she's
like, oh, I don't know if I should come in.
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And she has this very
gentle presence that's really sweet.
But usually I'm trying to get a grasp
on what's happening in my love life, and
it purely comes from a place of anxiety.
You're using our precious minutes with Tara on
the other side to figure out what 832
and 512 and 617 are up to.
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Yes, I..
I hear that. I hear that.
And I'm taking it in.
And so far, nothing has
proven fruitful, so that's okay.
Although we've heard for a few.
A few sessions that something
is going down in February. That's right.
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We're, like, a week away. You have something.
So I'm ready. In February. I'm ready.
Anything that happens this week isn't gonna
count because February is the month.
You should just stay home this week, maybe.
Well, I mean, I won't
take anything seriously this week.
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Okay, well, let's welcome today's guest,
Tara Bonner of Heartseed Healing. Hi, y'all.
Oh, we're so glad to have you, Tara.
It's good to be here. So glad to have you.
And look, we're all dressed up, not in our pajamas.
Proud of us.
All right, Tara, tell us a little bit
about what you do, who you are.
So, I'm Tara Bonner, I am a psychic medium, a
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tarot reader, and also an intuitive energy worker.
My story is wild, how we got here,
but basically, I started Heart Seed Healing officially
maybe two, two and a half years ago. Congrats.
Thank you.
It's been very exciting.
Interestingly enough, I was working on some trademark material
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and was asked, when was the first time that
you used this trademark of Heart Seed Healing and
when did you provide it publicly?
And it was fascinating because I had to go back through
a bunch of documents and I found a note from 2018. Yep.
That had Heart Seed Healing with the question mark.
I remember specifically it came to me during a meditation,
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and I had no clue what it was for.
I was not actively doing this work.
I had just started my journey as a
Reiki healer, and boom, there it was.
And so it was really exciting to kind of look
back and just flash forward to see how really just
a little seed literally has sprouted and grown.
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So it's pretty cool.
So, yep, I absolutely do psychic mediumship, where I
connect with the other side, past loved ones.
Sometimes we hear from folks we
do not expect to hear from.
One of my experiences was with
very famous psychic medium John Edwards.
My grandmother came through, which
I was very grateful for.
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It was a very large group.
And then my best friend's late ex husband came through, who
was the last person that I wanted to hear from.
However, that was a lesson on multiple levels, but I
feel like that was the true connection where I knew
this is real because I was receiving it personally.
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You know, I feel like skepticism is beautiful.
I think it's important.
Cynicism is where I just get exhausted by.
I mean, really. Yeah.
And I think that's with anything, but
specifically around the work that I do.
So, yeah, it's John Edwards.
Speaking of, he actually said
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He brought those two in.
He read someone else.
He comes back and he points directly at
me and he says, you're a healer.
He's like, you're going to be doing something
similar to Reiki, but not exactly Reiki.
And here I am less than a decade later.
I thought he'd lost his damn mind.
And here we are. Oh, dear.
So, yeah, it's been pretty cool
just to watch it all happen.
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A friend of mine calls me QT Quantum Tara
because she's like, what you have done in the
last two years has taken me a decade.
So I feel like Once we're on
our paths, things just align and unfold.
So John Edwards was the start.
When did you first discover your
gift as a psychic medium? Yeah.
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So in retrospect, I've always been sensitive.
My go to story that I share with folks when
they ask is if I rewind back to seventh grade.
I was in English class, and it was
the year of the Olympics, and the teacher
had posters of Olympians atop of the classroom.
And out of nowhere, I look to the little
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girl next to me, and I point to a
guy who's pole vaulting, and I remember kind of
like nervously giggling and saying, doesn't it look like
that man's falling from a telephone pole, y'all?
She burst into tears.
Her father had literally just passed
from falling from a telephone pole.
So I got goosey.
To this day when I tell this story. Yeah.
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And so, you know, in retrospect, I feel like
there were things around me, obviously like that, but
I just would pass it off as odd coincidence.
Another time, I remember, I think I was in
high school, and my father had walked in to
tell me that someone's mom had passed.
And I thought we'd already had
the conversation because I just.
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It's knowing, right?
It's that intuition.
So it's been around.
But I think it was back in 2017, I actually, it was
after John Edward, when he told me that, funny enough, that day
I had read an article in O Magazine about a Reiki healer
who quit her day job and did that full time.
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She was having some health issues, and I
was kind of dealing with some thyroid issues
and all over the place at the time.
And other than that, y'all, I
really didn't know what Reiki was.
I had massage therapists, and I'd heard the word,
but I didn't really know what it was.
And so for him to point to me that day
and say, hey, this is what your path is.
Again, I thought he was out of his mind.
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What path were you?
Sorry to interrupt you, but what path were you on?
What were you up to?
Yeah, good question.
You name it, I've done it.
I've been a Realtor, I've been a property manager.
I've been a leasing agent.
So a lot of real estate.
The job before this last one, I was in
corporate America behind a computer in a cubicle, and
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talk about being a sensitive in corporate America.
Overhead. Holy crap, y'all. Yeah, all of it.
Literally, there was a guy next
to me who likes to drink, and I could feel it.
And so that was part of My path.
So John Edwards says, hey, you're
going to be a Reiki healer.
And I was like, okay, yeah, sure.
Well, I went and checked out what Reiki was, and
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I tell my clients who come in for energy sessions.
I was like, the first time I had Reiki,
I thought it was a load of shit.
I was like, it was an old smelly lady
who just kept saying, can you feel that?
Can you feel that?
I was like, I got nothing.
In retrospect, I do feel like there was some clearing
and some work done, but when you don't know what
to expect, it's kind of weird the first couple times.
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And so, yeah, after that, I was curious.
And so I ended up finding.
I saw a psychic medium and found
out she was a Reiki teacher.
So I also lost my mom when I was younger. I was 15.
And that's how I found John Edward, because he
had that famous show Crossing over in the 90s.
And that's where it was kind of a connection.
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Even though it wasn't personal, it was still
a connection to realize that there was more.
So I ended up going through my Reiki classes.
Three of them, I think.
One, two, and then Reiki master.
And when I was working on students, my
left knee in one particular case early on
kept wanting to literally block out on me.
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And I finally was just like, what is up with my knee?
And the guy next to me was like, ask.
Ask the student who you're working
on what's up with her knee.
And sure enough, she had had six knee surgeries.
And so that's when I realized what a true empath I was.
To and to this day, one of my
main Claires is clairsentience, where I feel things.
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So if I've got a spirit who's coming in, usually
I feel in my body either something that was happening
in their life or something around their passing.
And so the catch is, I didn't know to clear
my energy afterwards, so I literally hobbled for a week.
Now I've learned to clear the
energy and, like, move forward.
So, yeah, it's pretty wild.
Just the random way, random way that I got here.
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But I tell people, and I really, genuinely
believe this, if there's something that you enjoy,
something that you like, that makes heart sparks.
And literally, if we follow those heart sparks, what
it does, it ignites that next little fire.
And then before you know it,
your entire path is well lit.
And that's exactly how I've gotten to where I am.
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We, like, yapping together.
So this is Our heart spark. Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. I love it. Absolutely. And it will
it will continue.
just to light the way.
I've got a pop in question.
So you mentioned Claire. Tell me again which one. Yep.
Clairesentience. And that's?
Yeah, I will do my best. What do you think?
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I am a professional.
So clairesentience, again, that's where I feel.
And again I--
People ask me, does it hurt?
For the most part, no.
It's just like I may lose my breath
if I've got someone who had breathing issues,
but it's very quick and passing.
So that is one of my main claires.
Another one of my main claires
has been really tricky for me.
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It is clairecognizance.
And that is where you just kind of get
a download, a drop in and you know something
and you have no clue how you get that.
And then there's clairvoyance where we see.
And so the way that works for me, for instance,
I just brought through a woman a couple of weeks
ago who I knew that there was a trach involved.
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And so I could feel it first.
And so I was like, that's what
I think a trach would feel like.
And then when I was second guessing myself, my
guides, who I call team spirit, literally flashed me
the commercial from the 80s with a woman who
was smoking a cigarette through her trach.
And so that was the clairvoyance for me.
It was just that little like, yep, this is it.
And so those two work together.
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And then I knew to talk about a tracheotomy. Right.
And then there's clairaudience, where you hear.
Some people I'm so envious of, they
literally can hear, like word for word.
I don't get that.
I will get like song clips.
And a lot of times I even tell my
clients, like, you'll hear me say, well, they're saying.
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And that's really more of my claircognizance, where I just know. So.
But I've learned just for humans, it's much easier just
to say, I'm hearing what they're saying, because it is.
It comes out so clear.
So, yeah, I think.
I think I covered them all. I also--
there's another one and I can't remember what it's
called, but where I can get smells occasionally too.
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Yeah, can't remember.
So how do you think meeting with a medium
can help somebody move through their grieving process?
Yeah, I love that question.
So I think a big one, honestly, is it allows
you to access a part of you that maybe isn't
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Readily available at all times, if that makes sense.
It can definitely bring up memories.
And I think memories in general
are just such a beautiful gift.
As someone who actually had brain surgery several years ago,
there was a short time where I had no memory
with like short term memory, some long term memory.
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And now I know what a true gift it is,
but I feel like just those little snippets of like,
I worked with a woman yesterday and her late husband
came through and the man was hysterical. Hysterical.
And so with a
good medium, I feel like one of the things
that we try to do is kind of bring through
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their personalities as well, you know what I mean?
And so this guy was cracking jokes left and right.
Some of it was so inappropriate,
I didn't want to share it.
But like, it was.
But that's how he was, you know.
And funny story in particular with this one.
I tend to meditate ahead of time and just kind
of get anything that's kind of floating in the ethers.
And I wrote down hamburger.
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And I was like, the hell is this?
I never know really what's coming through.
So I'm talking to her and I was like,
there's something around a joke in a hamburger.
And she's like, I got nothing.
And so she was actually an energy session client.
She's on my table and I'm working through her,
and all of a sudden she's like, the hamburger.
And I was like, what?
And she's like, we would get drunk and
we would be in Ubers and we would
go through the drive through at Whataburger.
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And it was always a thing.
She's like, but I video edit.
She was like, I have multiple videos of this.
And we were laughing hysterically as we went.
So it's just those little things.
But it totally brought up that memory and
was also proof to her that he knows
that she's still watching those videos.
It was so beautiful.
I mean, yeah, it's so great.
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I love it.
So, yeah, I feel like, again, memory
is such a positive, sometimes negative emotion.
But I think it's so important to feel, and that's
what mediumship does, is it really helps people feel.
Is there anything else that's such
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an important piece for people grieving?
I think sometimes we,
Like, it's hard to feel it.
Sure, absolutely. Yeah.
I will say I think that is one of the hardest pieces
for me as a medium, working with people who are grieving.
You know, they feel like they have
to come through me to feel.
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But I really try to remind people that we can still
get those little snippets of folks around us, but we kind
of have to tune in a little bit more.
You know, it's like, you're not going to
get hit in the face with a cardinal.
I mean, some people, cardinals really are
a sign, you know what I mean?
But I think it's just those
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subtleties, and that is the difference.
That's the one thing that I was actually just talking
to one of my best friends today about meditation.
She's like, when I meditate, I get nothing.
It's just blank.
I was like, that's how it's supposed to be, you know?
I was like, you're expecting, like an alien to fall out of
the sky and smack you and give you all this stuff.
I was like, it doesn't work like that.
Literally, the messages come through so subtly, and the
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more you use your intuition, your third eye, the
stronger it gets, just like any muscle.
And I mean, I've even watched it in the last two years.
It's night and day how I can bring through.
Probably even since I started working with y'all,
I feel like it shifted a little bit.
And just the way that I receive information, I
also always set the intention to help me translate
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and clearly communicate whatever messages come through, because, again,
I don't hear word for word.
So I'm getting snippets of my memories.
One of you.
I can't remember which one.
And that's the other thing.
A lot of times I don't remember
what comes through my sessions, because it
literally comes through through you.
But I remember this specifically because my
grandmother, 1980s grandmother, wore gaudy jewelry.
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And one of you, you have a
grandmother who wears, like, costume jewelry.
And so it's funny, that's kind of one of
those things that I feel like we talked about.
And so, you know, it's just those little details.
It's like not every grandmother in the 80s
wore gaudy costume jewelry, but mine sure did.
And I love that they use my grandmother, who's also
on the other side, to bring through messages like that.
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What else have you learned about grief in this work?
Yeah.
So who also.
Because, you know, I am a psychic medium,
but I also do the intuitive energy work.
And so that's along the lines of Reiki.
What I do isn't exactly like it,
but that's where I got my foundation.
So I work through the different chakras, and
I receive information kind of as I'm going.
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That's why I call it an energy session and not Reiki.
Because it's definitely not like your average Reiki session,
because I tend to channel and get information.
And of course, when we get to that
heart chakra, that's where we have a whole
lot of wounds, for lack of better term.
But that's a space where I can feel grief.
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And even personally, I went through
a divorce a few years ago.
Man, talk about grief.
You know what I mean?
So, of course there's heartache in multiple ways,
but also, even when you don't have technically
heartache in losing a lover or losing a
family member to death or otherwise, because obviously
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grief comes up in other ways as well.
But it is.
I feel like it's just one of those things that
is so important to feel, and I think so many
of us are so good at just blocking it.
I drank for a year.
I was a heavy drinker.
In retrospect, I was. That's--
I was just numbing, numbing, numbing, numbing,
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you know, and we all have our.
Our vices and our moments, but that was one
way that I just kept closing it in.
But another way that people grieve is not having their life
look the way that they thought it was going to be.
That's a big one.
You know, I have.
People just straight up tell me, I'm so jealous of what
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you do and how you do it and this and that.
I also put a lot of work into it.
You know, yes, I have intuition that's
a little bit more heightened than.
But just like a sports player or a
musician, I practice it and it's gotten better. Right.
And so.
But I feel like sometimes people think, oh, I'm
going to be married by the time I'm 25.
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I'm going to have children by the time I'm 32.
I'm going to have this house,
I'm going to have this promotion.
And if it doesn't go, people grieve that.
And it's interesting because again, I feel and read
energy, and it shows up in our chakras and
it literally will get kind of stuck stack.
So I love when people come in and that stuff comes
out because we can literally just kind of help clear it.
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And I think, you know, I also read tarot.
And so through the tarot and the energy
work, it's like such a reflective space for
people to really, like, delve in.
Like with tarot, for example, I always.
I pull past current, future and then flip the bottom
deck to kind of see what else is going on.
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People get really anxious about that future card.
But I tell them we still have free will.
And so literally, if I pull something that
you like, use that to your advantage.
Use that energy and pull it in.
If I pull something you don't like it, change it.
You know what I mean?
And I genuinely believe that.
I do feel like there are certain folks
that rely completely on what psychics say.
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And I do believe.
Get a look.
But I do believe that, like, what psychics, a
good psychic or a true psychic, I should say
we do actually get glimpses of the future.
But with that being said, I also feel
like there's always four or five different paths,
and literally things can shift or change.
So what we are reading is
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literally what is currently on par.
But that doesn't mean you're going to not want a coffee
and pull off on the side of the road, stop, hang
out here for a little bit, and that reroute you.
You know what I mean?
One thing that's really interesting is.
So I know you probably wouldn't remember this,
but I first came upon Tara at--
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I went to a birthday party, a
birthday party, and she was reading tarot.
And I still have the picture in my phone, but I
can also, like, I have the image of that card pull.
And when you pulled my cards, I was in the
midst of, like, a very difficult, chaotic time that
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didn't end up culminating until August, or I guess it
was September when I had my pulmonary embolism.
But in that card poll, I remember,
one of my future cards was the sun.
And that kept coming to me as
a symbol in different ways throughout the year.
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And it matches your Leo.
It does match my Leo, too.
And also, just for people who don't know what the
sun card represents in tarot, that's joy and happiness.
Yeah. I literally--
I smile so big when that card comes out
because it usually means that we're moving into a
brighter space or we've arrived at a brighter space.
Yeah.
But what I took from that and what usually
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I get when I'm seeking something through the cards
or through connecting with the other side is
it gives me a lot of hope.
I think I still held that image of that
card pull because I was like, okay, I'm in a
really tough time right now, but something is telling me
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that I'm going to pull the sun card out. Yes.
Well, I mean, really, the sun came out.
Like, I did get,
I did move through the tough time.
And I'm experiencing now what the cards had said.
But I think even that hopeful outlook, not to
be a silver lining or to push down trauma.
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But it can just be like a comfort that
right now I'm in a really difficult season, but
the sun card is coming or whatever it is.
Like your February love story. Yeah. Yeah.
And so to speak of that, funny enough, as
you were talking about that, I got another month.
And so with that being said, that doesn't mean that
you won't meet that person in February, but the month
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of May feels significant for you as well. So who knows?
That could be next level. Right? Yeah. So.
And that's also Camilla's birthday
month, my daughter's birthday month.
I love that.
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So we're gonna
shift into seeing what happens
in a little mediumship session. Cool.
So I know I've worked with y'all obviously
before, and I always get nervous with y'all
because I work with you so often,
we're going to run out of folks.
So with that being said, keep an open mind.
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So far, so good, right?
You know, and that's the other thing is
as part of my journey is just having
to learn to lean in and trust spirit.
And so only one time did someone not come through
and come to find out she hadn't lost anyone.
And so I was like, okay, that makes sense.
She was there for our energy session.
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So couple of just ground rules just to kind of
get an idea of what I usually tell folks.
So my joke is don't feed the Medium.
Unless it's tacos.
With that being said, sometimes people get really
excited when I start making connections and literally
give me the whole life story.
And I'm like, what am I here for?
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You know, with that being said, I also, and
I will say, always speak on behalf of spirit.
I do appreciate.
Yep, I can take that.
Nope, that doesn't make sense.
You know, I've worked with you both, so
I know that I've quote, unquote proven myself.
But, you know, especially, like I said, if
I've got a skeptic, I want to be
able to give at least enough information to
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where, like, yep, that's definitely so and so.
So never know who can come through.
It can be someone close to us. Literally.
A couple of weeks ago,
I brought through someone's electrician.
So, but interesting story with that.
I was like, why is your electrician coming through?
And I mean, I had specifics around their passing.
It was a weird passing.
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So it was without a doubt who it was.
And it was basically them coming through with
the message, letting her know that her kindness
rippled in places that she didn't even realize.
Yeah, I mean, really just beautiful.
You know, her electrician obviously was the last
person in the world she expected to hear
from, but that's exactly what his message was.
I got goosey. Isn't that beautiful? That's. Yeah.
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It's so cool. I get
I learn every day.
It's so rad.
So with that being said, keep an open mind.
I've also learned to say I've
got more feminine or masculine energy.
Part of that is obviously because folks are also non
binary, but also because I've had some really masculine grandmas
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come through and I clocked them for Grandpa's.
So keep that open mind.
Usually I can kind of tune
in and get information like that.
Another thing, you know, every medium
is different how we receive information.
Some people are really great with names.
Me, not so much.
I play a really great violin, but I'm
not great at the stand up bass.
And so it's just a different skill set.
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With that being said earlier, I did kind of have
a name, but that could be associated with something else.
So we'll kind of go from there.
Any questions? No.
All right, so I actually am going to just kind of
give us a minute and just kind of blend our energies.
I know we did this before the start of the
podcast, but I'd still like to kind of do that
now and just kind of recenter us and refocus.
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So what I like to do Is just envision from the
base of your spine, bottom of your feet, roots going down.
And then we're going to wrap around the core of
the earth, Bring that energy up through the center of
our body, hold our breath, and then pop it off
the top of your head like a fountain.
Include us in the bubble and anyone else
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you would like to step forward, wrap back
around, nice, slow, easy inhale, 2, 3, 4.
Fountain at the top of your head, and then one more.
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All right, thanks.
All right, let's see what we've got.
So I do tend to meditate ahead of
time and kind of write down some things.
So I'm going to go off of one that was kind
of coming through earlier, and then we'll go from there.
I feel like it's feminine energy.
I also feel like I've got high blood pressure or
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some kind of levels that are going up and down.
Definitely feels more like high blood pressure.
Also headache and nausea.
Definitely feel nauseated if I start gagging.
That's why.
And yeah, really bad headache.
I actually wonder if.
And I do feel like I've got a woman.
I do feel like I wonder if she
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had a stroke or something neurological as well.
Does this make sense for either of you?
Usually with health stuff, it's my mom, but
I don't want to jump to that. Yeah. So.
But then I'll those all tracking.
I wouldn't be shocked if your mom's like, of
course I'm going to be here at the table
at this podcast, because that's how that works.
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But she's usually busting in.
Yeah, she's exactly. She's usually.
It's funny, you're wearing red, and that
is definitely one of her colors. I know. Oh, you do?
Yeah.
No, she literally, like, that is one of her colors.
Honey is red.
Like, she's got that big, bright, bold energy, so.
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's with you.
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All right, so let's keep going with this.
And I am covered in my
gooseies, which is my check mark.
So can I have her first name? Karen.
Hi, Karen.
So a couple of the ways that folks will kind
of bring through information, they'll give me numbers and sets.
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And so a lot of times we're talking about
the amount of children or grandchildren or even siblings.
Were there three of you?
You, Trevor, Shailey. Oh, there's three.
Well, yeah, kind of.
There's a couple different ways. Yeah. Okay.
Feels like three children is kind
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of what are being grouped in.
Yeah, she claims Shaylie, so. Yes. Yeah.
And so that's the other beautiful thing
that I've learned in doing this work.
Sometimes they will literally still claim
people on the other side.
And also the tragedy of it is they
will also claim children that they've lost.
So either.
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Yeah, you get the idea.
Well, Shaylee's my sister in law.
She's still with us. Absolutely. Thankfully. Yeah. So.
Yeah. But I do.
I feel like she's highlighting the three children,
so that totally makes sense to me.
Why'd you draw.
Can I ask why you drew a heart?
It just came out. Hearts were her. Like.
Is that her thing? Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go.
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They're all over our house.
Like, it's.
Yeah, it was one of the last.
She bought a bunch of these glass hearts before
she died and she gave them to everybody and
she was like, this is like, these are,
Hearts are so important to me and
I want everybody to have one. I love that.
Yeah, no, it literally just came
out whenever I wrote it there.
I do write a lot of hearts.
I'm heart seed healing.
But that one, like, automatically
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just was like, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I love that.
And that's one of those little ways.
So that's another great example.
So, yes, you're sitting here with me.
You saw this.
But when you start seeing the repetitive patterns, that is
another way that spirit will talk to you, you know?
So for you, it's hearts.
I bet you see hearts in places that
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you would have never seen hearts before.
But it literally just kind of refocuses our
filter is the best way to describe it.
So I actually love that you brought that up.
Was she a smoker or have breathing issues?
Breathing issues? Yes.
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Marijuana in her younger years.
It's not that I know what that
feels like from my younger years.
Breathing issues is literally just kind
of what's coming through.
And I know that I mentioned a stroke.
Did you have something neurological
or a stroke as well?
Neurological, yes. Okay.
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So for me personally, anytime that the left side of
my head kind of use the term lights up.
That to me is a signifier of neuro issues.
So with that, I always kind of dig in.
I usually say it's either dementia, stroke,
possibly an aneurysm, that type of energy.
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And so, yeah, that's one of those spaces
that I feel that in my body.
And I know this is annoying too, because literally, I'm
sure that we go through this every single time.
And it's, you know, and it's one of
the things that's uncomfortable for those who kind
of have to rehear what was happening.
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But it's also just one of the ways
that they show that, yep, this is. Is legit. Me.
This is, you know, it's one of those proofs.
So I know you're wearing red,
and we already talked about red.
Do you or did she have red shoes?
Red shoes is coming through as well. Yeah.
Like, either it was a thing, or there's
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a photograph of red shoes specifically, and it
doesn't feel like Dorothy's red shoes.
Funny enough, I keep hearing this song.
Here's that clear audience.
Put on your red shoes and dance with me.
Me, David Bowie.
So, yeah, I feel like there's something either
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significant around that song or Red Shoes specifically.
Again, it doesn't feel like
Dorothy and the ruby slippers.
So put that in your pocket for later.
I can send you home with this as well.
Normally, I get you guys to take notes.
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I also feel really. I'm sorry, I'm going to keep
talking about how I'm feeling.
I also feel really dizzy.
Does that make sense? Yeah.
And with her passing, feels like a very quick decline.
Does that make sense to you?
Like, we're going along, okay.
And then, like, within a week, even, it's just,
(38:33):
like, everything just kind of starts to shut down.
Does that make sense?
I'm sorry, honey.
I made cookies with my mom, particularly.
She would make the oatmeal, and I
would make the chocolate chip cookies.
And it was always kind of like, you're better at that.
You're better at that.
Was there something like that where one of you would,
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like, always, like, you were known for this, and if
you tried to do it, you'd screw it up.
Does that make sense?
Because for some reason, I'm literally seeing, like,
the chocolate chip cookies and the oatmeal cookies.
So there's.
I feel like there's either a story around, like,
you tried to make something and it just wasn't.
Did not come to par even
possibly with a recent holiday.
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Did you recreate something,
like, around maybe Thanksgiving? Yeah. Okay.
What was that?
A toll house pie?
Okay, there's the cookies.
I was like, all right. Yeah. And it flopped. It flopped.
Yeah.
That's exactly what this feels like.
I was like, nope, something did not go right.
And I kept seeing chocolate chip cookies.
So that makes sense. Yeah.
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She's teasing you. She sure is. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know if she was much of a cook, though.
Oh, she was, was she?
She'll correct you on that.
I was gonna say, give me a second.
She'll put me in my place.
Maybe she's teasing you because you,
I'm gonna say it, because you fucked up a toll house.
That is literally what that is. Does she have...
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Is she giving me a little
too big for your britches energy?
I don't know. You tell me. Yeah.
And so that's the other part. Right.
Like, this is the beautiful part about women
connect, is that we can, like, genuinely feel
and you get your own messages.
We start to second guess ourselves.
But if we just kind of tune in, you heard it. Right.
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And so it's kind of that energy.
Let's see.
All right, Karen.
Okay. I feel like we're going back
to weird, like, childhood memories.
I was at Six Flags as a kid, and I
grabbed my grandfather's hand and started walking with him.
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And I looked up and it was a stranger.
Is there something like that?
Like, that's exactly how she's showing me.
It's like a moment where you, like, either
wandered off with the wrong family or you
wandered off with the wrong person. I know.
That's very particular.
And also, stay open.
This could be a message for you as well.
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I'm not...
I'm not recalling.
I'm not recalling. Okay.
I mean, it's so specific.
And it was me that wandered off.
Well, they're showing me one of my
memories, and so that's how that works.
But I feel like it,
or there's a story around someone wandering off with
another family is literally what it feels like.
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My brother. Okay.
I was like, someone wandered off with another family.
And it was a whole thing.
It was a huge thing. Okay.
Like, I feel like it was even
teased, like, well, you can have them.
But yeah, it's.
It's a whole thing.
That's why it's being brought up. Yeah.
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It's actually.
That's one of my first memories of panic in
my body and anxiety, and I could feel my
parents anxiety, and mine was just going up, up,
up, because I could feel theirs. You could feel theirs.
That's being an empath right there. I know.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But I want to say she's kind of laughing about it now.
It's like, literally like.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was so specific.
Like, I.
They literally just showed me a memory
of me, like, walking along with someone
else's grandpa thinking it was mine.
Okay, let's see what else we have.
Did you have communication issues with her, or
did she have issues either difficult communicating through
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life or towards the end of her life? Yes. Yeah. Tara.
Yeah.
My throat is literally like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't mean to come off snarky on you.
I didn't, I didn't take it that way.
But funny enough, I feel like that's
also how she would have answered.
Absolutely.
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Yeah. Yeah.
It was like almost the same tone on
her side whenever I asked the question. Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm sorry.
But yeah, my throat was literally like,
And I was like, I don't--
I don't think this is physical.
I feel like this is communication issues.
All right, let's see what else we have.
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I've got, like, feel like I'm having
parties, not just like Christmas or Thanksgiving.
I feel like I've got parties and
I've got like dishes for the parties. Is this you?
Possibly.
Do you have those dishes?
Yeah, yeah.
Funny enough, she's like, why aren't you using them?
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Well, because they're in California
at my ex husband's house.
They're on their way to me. Okay.
They're on their...Yeah. Okay.
Have a party when you get them. Yeah.
Literally, that's what that feels like.
I was like, why aren't you using the dishes?
Is literally how it was coming through.
They're in a box. Yeah.
They're on their way. Beautiful. I love it.
(43:59):
Literally, have a party. Yeah. Yeah.
She's the hostess with the most.
This is what she's bragging at.
Yeah, she was.
She was a little socialite and that's how it feels.
But yeah, I was like, there's something with dishes
and someone has them and is not using them. Them.
So that makes sense.
Do you know if there's also a set of
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crystal glasses along with this, like drinking glasses?
I'm not sure.
Or I know that you said your ex husband.
Did you toast with like, hand me down.
Crystal glasses?
There's something about a set of crystals.
(44:40):
Crystal glasses.
And I feel like it's two
fancy champagne, but not quite champagne. Okay.
Put that in your pocket.
I feel like it's going to come
up in some form of fashion.
And again, it feels like I. I do.
I really feel like we toasted.
(45:03):
Not you, obviously, but we toasted with like,
that was the something old, something borrowed.
It's kind of like along the lines of that,
but again, it feels like crystal or crystal glasses.
Anyone in your family that you can think of? No. Okay.
(45:24):
She would have had all of that, but
I don't have a super clear no connection.
Again, it really. It does.
It feels like I'm using it to toast like at a wedding.
So maybe you're getting remarried and maybe we do that.
I don't know.
But how dare you.
Past, present, future, it's all a blur.
(45:49):
Is your dad dating?
Yes.
Yeah, mom just brought that through.
What'd she say?
Are they talking about actually moving in together?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that feels good.
Just FYI. Yeah. Yeah.
It feels like once we wrap up, it's
(46:10):
like, all right, let's give this a whirl.
Are you having issues with him leaving the house?
Kind of. Kind of, yeah. Yeah.
Literally, it's like.
And it's interesting.
I don't know if he's actually gonna sell
it, but feels like there's concern specifically around
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you and the absence of that energy there.
With that being said, she's with
you anywhere that you are. Yeah.
I feel like that's a very specific message for today.
I think that's why we went down this path. Yeah.
So literally, it's like the memories
will still be with you.
We talked about memories of the beginning of the hour.
Yeah, I've said that to my dad before. That there's.
(46:57):
Yeah.
That I have so much attachment to the house because of
her, but I also know that she's with me everywhere else,
but there's, like, I just really feel her there.
I understand.
Yeah, absolutely. And so.
But I think that's why she's bringing this up.
It's like, literally, like, it's going to be okay.
I promise you. I'll go with you.
And you can take things from the home as well.
I feel like your dad will
easily give you whatever you want.
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One of them.
Have a dog.
Tara, stop.
I was literally just.
I was like, we're gonna have a dog.
There's a dog piece about to come.
And I was thinking about.
Because I have the belief that Ilyse's dog,
When she passed, my mom greeted her.
And so I was literally just
thinking about that right now. Yeah. So. Yep.
(47:42):
There's something around a dog. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's interesting that you were, like, just thinking about
it, and I'm like, let's talk about the dog. Literally.
Literally. I was like, I'm gonna ask.
I'm gonna ask.
That's funny.
So what were you gonna ask?
I wanted to ask, like.
Yeah, I just was curious if my mom wants
to share anything about the dogs that she's got. Okay.
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With her, because there's.
She's got dogs with her.
And I'm just curious if she wants to talk about that.
Was one known for peeing, probably.
Dreidel--dreidey girl. Yeah.
Like, I smell pee. Dog pee. Yeah.
It's probably my dog. Yeah.
I'm Like, I smell dog pee. Yeah.
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I have a cat that I love, and I
tell her she's almost perfect every day, but she
poops about 2ft away from the box most days.
And that's kind of the energy of this.
It's like, yeah, I could, but I didn't.
That's very Dreidy. She did it to
spite my ex-husband. Yeah.
That's what this feels like.
It's like, I could, but I didn't. Yeah.
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Yeah.
Was she a little heavier for what she was?
She fluctuated in weight.
She had some people told her to lose a few lb's
She feels a little fluffy. Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
So either actually fluffy or fluffy or both. Yeah.
Curly hair, poodle in her.
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And would she have been a lighter color? Yes.
Golden white. Okay.
I was like, white or golden is literally.
She's like, I was an angel.
Yeah.
Golden is literally how she's coming through.
And I think it's like that angelic energy.
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That's hysterical.
Trying to be sensitive in how I word this.
Do you feel like you waited a little too long for her?
The end of her life...a little too long.
That's how it feels. Yeah.
With that being said, she's fine with it,
but she's just acknowledging, like, we stretched it
(49:55):
out a little longer than we should have. Yeah.
And you knew it. Yeah.
Did her collar have a bow on it?
She was your little girl. Little girl.
Like, that's how she's--
I was her little girl.
Was she there before your children?
Yeah, she was like, no, I
was the first, like, little girl.
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Did she get grumpy at the end?
Yeah, she always was a little grumpy.
Like, I'm literally seeing, like, a snarl.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Did her teeth give her issues?
Sure did.
With all this being said, she'll see you again. Yeah.
Literally, she's going to be there to
greet you when it's your time.
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Boing, boing, boing, boing.
What was her name? Dreidel. Adorable.
Three dogs with your mom literally buried
with her, like, in her casket. There we go.
I was like, she was talking about three dogs.
I love that.
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I always have tissues with me, and
I don't have any with me.
They're in the other room.
Yeah.
She's highlighting the three dogs.
I can't believe that they were with her. Literally.
That's amazing. We put them. Yeah. When we.
When we buried her, we took them to the guy.
We were like, can you put these in her casket?
Yeah, yeah.
She's highlighting the three dogs. Yeah.
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I like I can't emphasize enough how
big of a dog person she was.
Yeah, she has a good sense of humor
now because we talked about the three dogs.
Literally keep hearing three dog night.
And with that being said, I think she's
literally just trying to lighten them mood.
I don't think she was comfortable being uncomfortable.
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Nope.
All right, y'all, I think that's what I got.
Unless there's anyone else you
were hoping to hear from?
I don't think so.
Tara, thank you so much.
I need a nap. Uhhuh.
I feel like you just worked hard.
Definitely you just worked hard.
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Where can our listeners find you?
Heartseedhealing.com and I'm also on social media, Instagram and
I will post every usually Sunday evening by Monday
morning where I'm going to be that week. So I do--
I've got two tarot residencies.
One of them is at Brentwood Social
(52:28):
House on Thursdays from 11 to 2.
And then I moved tarot Tuesdays to
Thursday nights at House Wine south.
First they moved super great bigger location.
So that's exciting.
And then I usually do at least two different
pop ups around town, sometimes as far south as
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New Braunfels and that again will be posted.
And then I also, I'm starting to kind of enter
into some group mediumship where I read for folks.
So like on the, the 15th or 16th of the
month of February, I will be at the Herb Bar
and I'm gonna keep it nice and intimate with like
12 folks and literally just kind of like this.
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See who comes through and go from there.
Looking forward to that.
I also offer, I love doing group mediumships.
So for families or just a group of friends,
nice kind of unique way of doing things.
And then of course with my tarot, I do parties.
That's how I met you, Ilyse. Yeah.
So yeah, that's around town and was super honored.
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So I've only been doing this for a couple of
years and my very first full year I got voted
as one of the top psychics in the Austin Chronicle.
Yes, you did! And psychic. So.
And that's coming around again.
So I hope to be nominated again.
Absolutely. Yeah. Super fun.
Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much for being.
Absolutely love y'all.
I love connecting with you.
It's funny when I'm in their energy, I feel like
I'm in your family, you know, so it's, it's beautiful.
So.
But they're always around us.
Just remember that if you take anything away, you know,
and you can talk to them, they hear us.
I really, genuinely believe that.
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Whether we say it out loud, we say it in our head.
It's all telepathic.
Thank you for that reminder. You're welcome.
We love you. All right. Love you too. Thanks.
Thank you so much for joining us.
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