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Karen Kenney (00:01):
Hey you guys, welcome to the
Karen Kenney show. I'm super duper excited
to be here with you today, and I just want
to tell you a quick little story, a quick
little something that's been on my mind, andI have no idea what I'm going to call this
sucker. There's so many different names I
could call it directions. I could take it,
but one of the things that I do want to dois maybe a little bit of myth busting or
idea busting or whatever, and I'll tell you
what I'm talking about in a minute. But
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first, let me just say thank you so much forspending time with me, for making a choice
consciously, to tune in and to listen. I
super duper appreciate you and getting this
opportunity to connect with you through theairwaves, you know. So, okay, here's, here's
the gist of it. Here's the gist of it. I
could call this episode something like life,
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well lived. Life well lived, or somethingabout like, you know, like, why playing
small isn't like, you know, people tell you,
stop playing small. Like, everybody's like,
stop playing small. Don't play small. We'regoing to get it. We're, I'm going to make
have this all make sense in a minute. But we
often hear things like, about, like, don't
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play small. Like, go big or go home. It'sall about like, going big and going big. And
I have met a bunch of people over the years
who have said things to me like, but what if
I don't want to go big, right? Like, somepeople are destined, right? Some people like
come through. They want to be superstars.
They want to be on the cover of this. They
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want to be on stage. They want to be famous.They want to be well known. They want to
scale their business. They want to have big
cars and big houses and big money and big
all this stuff. And then there are somepeople who really just don't give a shit
about all of that stuff. And it was funny,
because I was just looking at this design,
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like website. I don't know if it wasArchitectural Digest or whatever it was, but
it was this concept about small spaces, and
I'm going to connect all this to a life well
lived. Just stay with me. I promise I'mgoing to connect the dots, and it's going to
make a difference, I think, as especially as
we're heading into this new year. So just
stay with me, please. I was just readingsomething, and there was an article, and it
basically said, this was the tagline on the
article of this this thing, it was about
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small spaces, and how to decorate smallspaces, right? And this is what it said. It
says a small space doesn't have to mean
small ideas. And I thought, Oh, I really
love that. So just because you have a smallroom, a small bedroom, bathroom, pantry,
hallway, whatever it is, it doesn't mean,
mean that you have to think small, like, you
can, like, think a little bit wider orbigger, or just, you know, don't have to
have small, small ideas. And then I thought,
well, if I just replaced two of these words,
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and instead of saying a small space doesn'thave to mean small ideas, I thought to
myself, and I'm going to explain why in a
minute, a small life doesn't have to mean
small impact. A small life doesn't have tomean small impact. Now, let me tell you what
I mean by a small life, right? Okay, so
recently, I found out that a childhood
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friend, their brother passed away. He wasalso a childhood friend. He was though, like
five or six years older than than me, and
his name was Bobby, and his sister Michelle
was my sister Kim, her best friend, one ofher best friends growing up. And Michelle
spent a lot of time at our house when we
were kids, and we spent time over at her
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house. And we were laughing, because she wasbasically saying, I just remember being at
your house all the time. And I said, Well,
you were at our house a lot. In fact, she
lived with us for one whole summer,basically threw her shit in, like a garbage
bag and, like, came down the street and just
lived with us for like, a summer. That's the
kind of house we were, that's the kind ofmother I had. And, you know, people liked
being at that particular house that we lived
at, because in this particular rental where
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we rented, we live right across the streetfrom a pack, you know, a pack with, like,
the best swings and like the seesaws and the
merry go round in the big ass slide, the
metal slides that would burn the shit out ofyou.
In the summertime. You know, you would getscorched, because that thing would get like,
hotter than the sun. That thing would be
like, hotter than Hades. Oh my god. Plus in
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our rental, we had an in ground pool. Welived across the pack, and we had wicked
cool we had a cool mother, like my mother.
My mother like when I tell you what, I tell
you that my mother's gravitational pull. Isay this about myself, but it's just true.
My mother's gravitational pull was really
strong, and she was. Beautiful. She was
young, she was hip, she was smart, she wasfunny, and she saw people, and when you were
in her presence and her light shone on you
like you felt it okay, that's important.
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Okay. So Michelle's brother Bobby passedaway. Now we did spend time at their house
as well, and we were like, the annoying
little sisters that were, like, hanging
around, you know? And he'd be like, yeah,yeah. Like, he put up with you. And then
he'd be like, beat it, you know, because
there's a really big difference between when
you're like, eight versus when you're like,let's say 14 or whatever. You're just way
too cool for school. And so Bobby loved
music. He was cool, you know, like, all this
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stuff. He was cute, but he would, he'd likehad enough of his own little sister,
nevermind the other two that, like, were
hanging around all the time. So I knew
Bobby, but I hadn't seen him in like,probably, like, 40 years. But I did stay in
touch with his sister. We were still friends
on Facebook, and I saw what she was up to,
and her kids and, like, all this stuff. Sowhen I got the news, my sister, you know,
and I we texted each other, and she asked me
if I was going to the wake. So we made plans
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to go down to the wake. Now, we went to theWake last week, and I'm going to tie this
all together like I said, stay with me.
We're coming back to this idea of how a
small life doesn't have to mean smallimpact, right? A small life can be a life
well lived. And again, I'll explain what I
mean by small in a minute. So when we get
down to the when I get down to the funeralhall home for the week, it was kind of a
trip, because we used to live my sister and
I, because we rented all over the place,
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right? We were like the poor kids. We justhopped to wherever the rent was, wherever we
were able to get rent or pay rent or
whatever, or my mother or whatever, could
pay rent. So we lived right next door, Imean literally right next door, to this
funeral home. So it was kind of a trip to be
back in that neighborhood. And so I pulled
up a pack out front. I see that there's aline out the door. It sat in to sprinkle a
little bit. Thank God it didn't start to
rain or snow, whatever, but it was cold out,
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but people were waiting in line, and mysister wasn't quite there yet. So I start to
talk to the woman who was behind me as we're
waiting for the door to the building to,
like open, because the line is so long thatit's now spilling out outside onto the
sidewalk, down the street a little bit. So I
sat talking to the woman behind me, and she
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says that her son, right Bobby, who passedaway, he was her son's coach, and her son
was either at work or away at school. I
didn't quite catch the whole thing, and she
said, but he was really upset that hecouldn't be here at the wake. So she decided
to just come in his in his stead, like
she's, like, I'll go and represent like,
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I'll go and represent you. And that rightthere told me something about Bobby. Now,
again, this is somebody I hadn't seen in
like, 40 years, or whatever. My sister shows
up. It takes about 20 minutes. We're outsidefor at least 20 minutes, and then we finally
get inside, like the door opens, and I see
that the line ahead of us has got to be
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like, easily, 50 people deep. I mean, thisis a long line, and when I tell you that the
calling hours were from four to eight, but
the line started. They told me at 330,
people were already lining up outside. Andwhen I tell you that I didn't leave until a
little before eight, and the line was still
all the way from the front door up to the
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casket, and it was just one of the mostremarkable and impactful things. And I just
kept standing there and thinking about this.
Is a guy who never left his hometown, as far
as I knew. Like now he might have gone awayto college or whatever, but like he lived in
his hometown his whole life. He coached,
like, if you could see all the pictures, you
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know how, like at funerals and stuff, theyput up, like the poster board, and they put
pictures across a person's whole lifetime on
them. There were so many of those, and so
many of them were COVID and like, baseballteams and football teams and whatever. So he
has a guy, he has three kids of his own,
Married for like, 37 years. Like, wicked,
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long time. Never left his hometown. I thinkhe was a Christian, like, was involved in
his, like, local church and all this stuff.
And he also did stuff for, I don't know,
like, all I know it's like, involves elderlypeople and, like, where they lived, and he
would like, go and he would plow, and he
would volunteer, and he was on this board,
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and he did all these things. And I'mthinking to myself, you know, I kept
thinking about this idea of how people will
try to tell you, like, stop playing small,
like you. You gotta play big. You gotta gobig or go home, you know. And there are
people who are like, but I don't want all of
that. I don't want the big cars and the big
money and the big house and the bigpopularity and the fame and the fortune. And
I think we get sold some bullshit idea that
to live a simple life. Isn't good enough
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that, in this capitalistic society, if youdon't want to scale things or get more or do
more or go big or Garner No no, like, What
are you even doing with your life? Like, if
you're not wicked ambitious, right? If youdon't want to be on the stage and be seen
and have a platform and be on all these
social media things like, What are you even
doing with your life? Right? And it's just abunch of bullshit. It's so much bullshittery
That it's like painful. And this idea just
got driven so deeply home as I was standing
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in this funeral palette, watching this lineand the people and the stories, because I'm
a chronic eavesdropper. As a writer, I'm a
chronic eavesdropper. And the stories that
people were telling and the laughter thateven his family up at the front of the line,
you know, they're like crying, but they're
hearing all these stories about their dad
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and their husband, and it was just one ofthe most remarkable displays. And I thought
to myself, this is a guy who didn't have a
fancy job, he didn't leave his hometown, he
didn't like, go big. I'm not saying like,and this is the point I want to make about
like. What does it mean to have a small
life? I mean a small life like, you stay in
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your hometown, you take care of your people,you go to the same church, you see the same
people in your community. You actually are
in a community that you participate in. Help
build foster like there were kids there onthose poster boards who were like, started
playing with him when they were like five,
six years old, and now they're out of
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college, going to their first jobs, and I'mthinking, holy shit. Like, What a legacy and
the amount of love in that room. This
person, Bobby, was beloved. He was beloved.
And you could just feel it in the room. Youcould see it in people's faces. You could
hear it in their words, just the energy in
the vibe. A small life doesn't have to mean
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small impact. You can have incredible impactand not do all the big, fancy things, you
know. And it makes me think about like,
let's just for example, take like the people
who are on stage, like the ones who do wantto be out front, the ones who do want to,
you know, go big, whatever. All of those
people are often able to do what they do,
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because there's a bunch of other people whoare happy behind the scenes, who don't want
to be in front of the camera, who don't want
the glory, who don't need their name to be
known, who don't need their ego stroked inas big of a way, right? There are the people
who are like, happy to be in the wings,
supporting and their value and their life is
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no less important, because somebody elsemight be like, well, they just played small
and they stayed small. Now look, there might
be times when we're keeping ourselves small
for 1000 different reasons, and that's thisepisode is not that, right? But there might
be times when we're playing small out of
fear. And I'm not talking about that. If
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you're somebody who has big dreams and youdo want to go for it, right? Like you do
want to go for it, there is nothing
enlightened about playing small, as Marianne
Williamson says, right? You want to go big.And if you're an environment where other
people get uncomfy when you shine a little
too bright, they can suck it in a bucket,
let them deal with it, right? But if you'replaying small out of fear that other people
won't be able to handle it, let them figure
it out and handle it. But if you're somebody
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who's just like, I just want to be and Idon't use the word just condescendingly,
they're like, I just want to be a stay at
home mom. I just want to, like, raise a
family. I just want to be close to my peoplethat I grew up with. I want to blah, blah,
blah, blah. I think sometimes that people
look at that
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with a little bit of a condescendingattitude. And what I'm trying to say is you
can choose to stay local, stay, quote,
unquote small, and still have an incredibly
well lived life, an incredibly impactfullife where you change like your life is a
legacy to that town, to your family, to your
friends, to all those kids that got coached
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like I'm just thinking about this. I haven'tstopped thinking. About it since I was since
I was there, and it was so remarkable, and
it made me so happy for his children that
they got to hear all of those stories.Because, you know, you don't always you when
you're a kid, you can't always see your
parents clearly for good and for bad, we
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can't always see the places like you know,sometimes you I talked about this in an
earlier episode, you put them up on a
pedestal like you do this thing where you
don't have quite clear vision, but alsosometimes you don't understand their
brilliance and their amazingness and the way
that they've changed lives. And just
listening to all the stories of how manylives Bobby changed, like, Oh my God. And
when Michelle saw us like she didn't know we
were there. So we waited, we waited. I'm
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telling you, this was like a five hour line,you guys. It did not stop people after
people after people just showing up. So at
some point it was just like the three
children. His wife, up by the casket,Michelle went and, you know, our family
friend, our friend, took a break so she
didn't know we were there. And when she's
sitting with her two sons, and we comewalking over and you guys her face, if you
could have seen her face, I wish I I've
recorded it in my mind, but I wish I could
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beam it into your brain right now so youcould have the same experience. And the way
her face, her eyes, she's beautiful,
beautiful girl. I mean, she's a she's a
woman, you know, she's beautiful. And hereyes just lit up, and she just grew like,
held her face, and she kept saying, oh my
god, oh my god. And she jumped up and and
she hugged us, and she was crying, and wewere crying, and it was like this whole
thing. And, you know, we got to see her
sister, and we got to see her mom, and we
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hadn't seen her mom again, like, in 40years, and her auntie, like, and I'm just
like, Is your mom gonna remember us? And
she's like, of course. And it was like this
whole moment, and it was so deeply impactfulto me to see how much impact this one person
had, you know, and there's this saying that
says, like, you know, I think about how a
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candle, how one little candle, you put it infront of a mirror, and it can reflect a lot
of light. It can also light hundreds of
other candles. And that's how I think about
Bobby is he was such a powerful light inthis little town in Massachusetts, just
living his life and trying to do his best to
be a good dad, a good husband, a good man, a
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part of his community, I'm assuming, a goodChristian, based on some of the things that
I heard, right? He loved his people, and he
loved deeply, and he was reliable. Like, I
can't speak for every single, like, secondof the guy's life, but for anybody out there
who's listening, who might start to feel
like, well, I don't have a big platform, or
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I don't have a lot of followers, or I don'thave a lot of friends, or I don't get a lot
of likes, or what I do doesn't matter.
Please, please, please, do not believe the
bullshit that that inner critic and maybesome of your family members and what society
and everybody's trying to tell you, you
matter. You are good enough. You are enough.
You are lovable. What you you you are thelight of the world. You too are like a
candle that can light up people around you.
It doesn't mean you have to go out and go
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big, but just wherever you are planted rightnow, wherever you stand, wherever you live,
you matter, and you can make a difference.
And it's got, it's just really got me
thinking about some things right now. And Ithink, you know, some of us have really big
dreams sometimes, and sometimes they're
realistic. I think we should all dream. I
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think we should allow ourselves to dream bigif we want to dream big. I don't think we
should put our dreams in small boxes. But
not everybody wants the big, big, big, jumbo
size, the Jumbotron. You know, jumbo size,life, and your life, instead of being big
and wide, it can be close and smaller, but
incredibly deep. And I just want to leave
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you with that as we're moving into this newyear, as we're starting to reflect on what
we really want, and I know for myself, I
really want to simplify. I talk about this
every year, but I feel like sometimesthere's a little too much going on for my
nervous system. So. And I know myself. I
know I have the capacity to be big and go
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big. And there are some dreams that I havethat are pretty big that I'm not going to
give up on. And it doesn't mean if it
doesn't happen, that I haven't lived a life
well, that I haven't had a well lived lifeor a life well lived, and the same is true
for you. Now, this doesn't mean that we just
give up and we don't go after things, and we
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don't, you know, try to be creative andlike, you know, do do big things, if the
calling is in your heart, if your internal
teaches pointing to something, if you get
lit up around, like, follow that. But whatlights you up might be that you do a food
drive or a clothing drive, or you volunteer
at the shelter, or, like, whatever. It
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doesn't have to be that you're out like, allthe time, making a gazillion dollars, like,
and everybody wants to be your friend
because you're famous or you're special. You
know, we're all we're all special, and noneof us are special. So I guess you know it's
like, I want you to be thinking about what
you really want, like, be really intentional
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as you're moving into this new year. And Ialways say, like, the universe cannot get
behind wishy washy. You know, it needs us to
get some clarity about who we want to be,
how we want to be, what really matters tous, what we value, why we're here, why we
think we're here, what we're going to do
about it with the time that we have. Like,
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what is that? Because I believe that we allhave as a course in Miracle tells us our own
individual curriculum. We all have a divine
assignment, and those assignments look
different for different people. And I don'treally give a shit about what everybody else
is doing. What most excites me is you
getting wicked clear about what you want to
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be doing, who you want to be, who you wantto be doing it with. And these are some of
the things that I love to help people with.
These are some of the things we talk about
in the nest, in my my spiritual group,mentoring program. And as you always say,
you can find out all the stuff that I'm up
to. Karen kenney.com you want to find out
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about the nest. Karen kenney.com/nest butyou guys just I hope you hear this. I hope I
hear from some of you about this episode,
because I think we've all been kind of sold
a bill of goods that we have to asindividuals become brands, and we need to
keep churning out content for free for these
big these big platforms, those platforms,
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people talk about having a platform? No, youdon't have a platform. They're the platform,
and they're just using you for free content
and add add time and ad space. Let's just be
honest about what's really going on. Butyour life is not lived online. Your life is
lived right now in the present moment, with
the people who are in front of you, the
animals who are in front of you, thecommunity that's in front of you, the
neighbors who are next door, whatever it is
that's where we can be impactful, who's
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right in front of you right now and whoneeds your help. How can you contribute to
your family, to your friends, to your
community, to act, to creativity, to the
world, like, what's your contribution? Andit doesn't have to be on a grand scale to
mean that it doesn't matter. A small life
doesn't have to mean small impact. And I'm
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not saying that Bobby had a small life in acondescending way. I just mean, like
locally, like where he lived, he stayed and
he went deep, and he had roots and manned
those roots grow and flourish and seed andcreate a bounty and a harvest of love that
affected 1000s. When I tell you how many
people, and those are just the people who
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could come. Those are just the people wholike, I don't even know, but man, it got me
to I'm like, Man, when my time comes, when
my time comes,
I hope. And it's not so much about leaving alegacy for me, because I don't have human
children, but like I want my legacy to be
the love that I shared with people, the way
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that I the way that people felt in mypresence, hopefully, hopefully, at least one
book, right? I want, I want, I want to leave
a book behind, you know, but I hope, I hope,
with the the time I have left and the air Ihave left in my lungs, right the breaths
that I have left that I am making an impact.
And it, you know, it, it makes me emotional
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to think about it, that it was beautiful. Itwas beautiful to see these people in line
and to see how. Beloved My childhood friend
was, and just to see the impact that he
made. And man, may we all leave behind thatmuch love. I think I'm gonna end it here,
wherever you go, wherever you go, may you
leave yourself and the people in the place,
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the animals, the environment, better thanhow you found it wherever you go, may you
your presence, your love, your life, be a
blessing. Bye, bye.