THE 60-DAY RESET WITH TESS MASTERS

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Hey you guys, welcome to theKaren Kenney show. I am super
duper excited today because I'mtalking to my friend who I know
you're gonna love too. Buthere's the thing, you guys know,
how picky I am about havingpeople on my show. I almost
never, ever, ever, ever haveguests on so when I do, you know
that there's a good reason why.So if you remember, I don't

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know, last year, sometime, I leteverybody know that I had just
been on my friend Tess'spodcast, and I am now having her
on my podcast, and I can't waitfor you guys to hear all about
her, one of the cool things. Sofirst of all, say, hi, Tess, hi.
I'm very honored to be a guest,because I know how picky you
are.
Okay, first of all, you're goingto be obsessed with her accent

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like me, because I could listento her all day long. But we're
going to talk about like yourprograms, like there's all these
things I want to get into, butone of the things I love about
you is you're also like me, amulti passionate, what I
consider like a multi passionateperson. So you don't just do one
thing. And I know like you guys,if you listen to the intro,

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right, she's a she's an actor,she's an author, she's a coach,
she's a podcaster, she, like,does a bunch of shit, is what I
basically was saying. So you doa lot of different things, and I
kind of want to dive into all ofthese little nooks and crannies
of like how you serve and howyou show up in the world, and
like what lights you up. Sofirst of all, just thank you for

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being on the show, and I'm superduper excited to have you here.
Thank you for having me. Thiswill be fun. You and I can talk
for hours,
and we have look it. So one ofthe things whenever I do have a
guest on, though, I like to askthem a question in this realm.
So, what were you like as a kid,like, as a kid, like, were you
like, quiet, nerdy, like, big,like, what was your vibe as a

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kid, and do you think that yourchildhood and how you were and
the shit that went down in yourlife, that it informs or
influences or inspired the workthat you do today? Oh, 100%
okay.
Tell I was thirsty, I wascurious, I was adventurous. My
parents helped me believe that Icould do anything and be

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anything. We traveled the worldtogether. We lived in a bunch of
different countries. My motherspeaks a lot of different
languages. My parents. You know,some people spend their money on
houses and cars. My parentsspent it on experiences. So we
had season tickets to theballet, season tickets to opera
and plays. And we wereconstantly experimenting with

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different food and cuisines fromaround the world. And my mother
was doing all these amazingstuff. We traveled, you know, to
different countries every year.My mum was a teacher, so they
would pull us out of school. Mydad would take extra vacation
time, and we would immerseourselves in a culture. And we
weren't allowed to say we didn'tlike something until we tried

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it. So, oh, I don't like that,you know, like a food, you know,
that maybe you hadn't tried it.Didn't look very attractive or
something, and they would go,Well, how do you know you
haven't tried it could be thebest thing you've ever tasted.
So we just had to have one bite,and then once we had one bite,
then we could exert our freewill, but we didn't like it.
Okay, great. Thanks for trying.Maybe we want to revisit that
down the road, you know, likeso, for example, raw tomato and

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avocado when I was a kid, justnow, I can't get enough of it,
you know. So it was just beingopen to all possibilities was
really the name of the game inmy family. And we, you know,
come from a very creativefamily, you know, we have
literal rock stars and judgesand, you know, big, big,

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achieving family, but it's sortof no big deal at the same time,
meaning you just do what you'repassionate about, what you love,
and you share it with the world.So from a really young age, I
was taught that my voicemattered and to put it out
there, and that people wanted tohear what I had to say, being my
parents, and then, by extension,anybody that we chose to invite

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into the conversation, and Ithink it's just a really
important message to share andto hold and to carry with you.
So my upbringing, in mychildhood continues to resonate
and play out in everything thatI do.
This is so fascinating to me,because one of the questions I
wanted to ask you, and then Iwas like, Nah, like, I don't
know but, but I do think itspeaks to what you just said.

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Well, first of all, before I askthe question, this other
question is, so what did yourdad do for work?
Yeah, so my dad worked for theairline, so he was a flight
engineer, so he flew and wasgone for days at a time. And,
you know, then he went long haulwhen we moved to Singapore. He
started with Qantas, which was,you know, back then, it was
called something else, but thenit got absorbed. And then we

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went to Singapore, and he workedfor Singapore Airlines, and so
that explains, off of some ofthe travel, okay, yes,
absolutely, yes. And then my momwas a flight attendant for
Qantas. That's how they met backin the day. But she had been a
teacher prior to that. That was.What did she teach? What subject
she taught primary school, andthen she became a special needs

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teacher. So she became anintegration specialist. And so I
think that really informs a lotof what I do as well, in the
sense of, you know, I thenvolunteered, you know, she was
volunteering sat on the, youknow, different charities and
things. And so social servicewas a very big part of our
family as well. And then Istarted volunteering myself. And
then I worked for thegovernment, for the Department

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of Human Services withintellectually disabled people,
people with acquired braininjuries, et cetera. Worked in
hospice, things like that. Sothat was a very big part of what
our family did, and othermembers of my family as well. So
yeah, that's where the flyingcomes into it. So my mom has
also done a bunch of differentthings, because she's constantly
wanting to explore the nextfrontier. So I get that from her

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for sure.
Yeah, I love that. Well, one ofthe things when I first met you,
and then I had the we were on,we were on a zoom, catching up,
and your mom came into theframe, and we were like,
chatting, and I was like, butyou're really close with your
family. And I think something,something that is really
beautiful, and I think a lot ofpeople don't have this is, first
of all, it sounds like you stillhave a really healthy

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relationship with your folks,but one of the things that you
said that they really instilledin you, because one of my next
questions into your creativework, it kind of is already
leading there is that they toldyou that a, you had a voice, B,
that it was worthy of beingheard, that you had something to

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say, and just that foundation,that really healthy kind of
foundation to launch yourselffrom. Because, you know, I
remember meeting you andthinking like, this is a really
confident person. And I'm notsaying you sometimes don't get,
you know, you know that youdon't have fear. Sometimes you
get, oh, every day, every day,every day, but you present as,

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like, very confident. And I'mlike, it's beautiful to grow up
in a family where you're beingtold and that you actually,
like, feel in the marrow of yourbones that you are seeing, that
you are heard, that you'reworthy, that you're mad, that
you matter, and that you'reloved. And it sounds like, and I
look, I'm not saying your familydidn't have things. I don't
know, I didn't grow up in yourhouse, but it sounds

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every, every family does, everyfamily does, but I will say that
I really hit the jackpot with myparents. We are a very close
family. And you know, we werethe family that everybody else
wanted to be around. They wouldtell us, you know. And my
friends wanted my parents astheir parents. And you know, all
my friends just adore myparents, and they're very much

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included in a lot. And you know,I'm close with my sister, and
there's just, I've just had onesister, so there's four of us.
So we were very tight knit groupof four for sure. So yeah, I was
extremely fortunate, and I, likemy parents, I would choose them
as friends,
and they're both still alive,yes, yes, yeah,
they're both in excellenthealth, which I'm incredibly

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grateful for. And that's why Ichose to return to Australia for
a while. You know, after livingin the United States for over 30
years, because my parents,because my parents are with it,
and they're ambulance andthey're still cognitively
active, and they're stillcurious, and they're still up
for things. And, you know, whileI, you know, I'm single for the
first time in my life at themoment, and I wanted to return
while I didn't have a partner,didn't have to uproot their life

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and just spend this reallyprecious time with them before
getting the call from my sister.Oh, you better come home, you
know. So, yeah, it's a it's areally special time, because
they're in their 80s.
So it's beautiful and it's rich,and it also just like, I just
got like, oh, I wanted to justcry when you were talking about
that. I I think it's sobeautiful that you're aware and

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awake enough that, because whenwe look at it, you know, and
you're like, okay, my parentsare this age, or whatever
meaning yours. And if you wereliving in LA or still living in
the States, and you think, well,how often do I see them? And
then you're like, Well, if youonly go home, let's just say you
only went back to Australia oncea year or twice a year. And they

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have, like, this much time. Whenyou break it down like that, it
would literally be like, I'monly going to see my parents
like, four more times or sixmore times. And when you think
about it like that, it's like,oh my god. So I just love that
you're all there, like, livingyour best life together. That
makes me so happy.
It's, yeah, it's really, it's,it's really been a really fun,
as you say, rich time. But Iwant to just pull up on

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something you said before,because it really went into my
heart. In the you present as areally confident person, and I
do when I'm in an arena where Ifeel confident. So right now, I
just have to show up as me. So Iam confident presenting as me.
If I'm coaching, I feel veryconfident in what I'm doing, if
I'm doing a voiceover, if I'm onstage or you know, but as you

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know, Courage isn't the absenceof fear, it's acting in the
presence of fear, and we build adifferent relationship with it.
So I am constantly in pursuit ofrefining my relationship with
fear or self doubt or whateverlabels we want to put on. It,
and I certainly experience it ona daily basis. So, you know,

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just for for listener, you know,if you're thinking, gosh, she's
balls to the wall, she thinksshe can do anything, I am often
in a fetal position. I'm oftenmeditating. I'm often going, I'm
a fraud. No one's gonna want tohear that from me. I mean, I
feel that just like everybodyelse you know. And then I pull

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out my bag of tools, and I workthrough it just like we all do.
Well I want, yeah, well, thatwas leading to my next question
about you being an actor. Somepeople would say old school
actress, whatever. But I sayactor, right, but I remember
actor, actress, right? So youhave a podcast. It has to be me,

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which I was lucky enough to beon. We're going to talk about
that, but I you were fabulous.Thank you so much. I had, I had
great help with you as afantastic interviewer, but I
remember when I went andlistened to your podcast, and I
don't know if it was in thefirst or second episode, and
this is all pointing back to theconfidence question. You told
this great story about, I don'tknow if you were 1617, or

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whatever, and there was somedirector on campus or something
who saw you and thought you werebeautiful or whatever, and
wanted to cast you. And therewas this other girl. There was
this whole situation. I know thestory, but it kind of speaks to
this, because I think that'salso something that I don't want
to speak for you, but that was areally big lesson that you

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learned in that, do you want totell a little Yeah?
Yeah. I love that you rememberthat story within the context of
what we're talking about,because it was a very, very
pivotal moment in my life,because it was an example of me
choosing to be crippled by fearand running with the narrative
of I'm not enough, that Isomehow have to be different to

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meet the moment. So I had beensitting on the benches outside
of the theater department, and Iwas talking with my TA and some
other people about a play, andwe were sort of just analyzing,
just having a really, you know,yummy, delicious conversation
about story. And this directorwas sitting there, and I
actually didn't see him atfirst, very famous director. If

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I hadn't seen him, gosh, I don'tknow what I would have done, but
anyway, and he actually was justlistening, you know. And he was
there sort of scouting forpeople for his next movie as as
they did, you know, because thiswas in LA I was at UCLA, and,
yeah, he just came up to me andsaid, Hi, you know, I just was
just listening to you so, so onboard with what you were saying

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and your analysis of that. Andyou mind if we just chat for a
little bit? So we had thisfantastic conversation. And he
said, You know, I just have afeeling that you would be just
really fantastic to work with,and I would really love you to
audition, you know. And it wasthe opportunity of a lifetime.
And I just said in the moment,if you can believe this, I still
cannot believe I did this. Imean, it's just baffling to me.

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I could kick myself. I want togo back and wring this girl's
neck like, literally, or loveher, or say, just go for it.
Come on, you know. And I'dalready had the big lead of the
season as a freshman, andeverybody else in the show was a
senior and a graduate student,like, I already had some stuff
under my belt, you know, that Iwas enough at this school, you
know, or in life, or had thetalent, or whatever, and I was

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getting the lead, the lead, youknow, it was it just, it wasn't
sort of an unknown sort ofthing. And I just was completely
terrified. And just said, youknow, I just don't feel like I'm
ready, and I just want to stayat school, you know, I wanted to
stay in that safe bubble where Iwas the big fish in the little
pond. Basically, I wasterrified, terrified that I

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wouldn't meet the moment and Iwould humiliate myself. And he
said, Are you sure about that?And it was almost like, now
that, I think back, it was a bitof a test. In that moment. He
went, No, you're actually notthe girl that I thought you
were, you know. And he said itvery politely, but now that I
think about it, oh God, anyway.And so he walked away. And this

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other girl that I knew, she sawand heard all of this, and I
had, you know, beaten her forsome roles. And I've beaten her,
I know, if that's the right but,you know. And she just walked up
to him, balls to the wall, andsaid, I'd like to audition. And
she looked pretty similar to me,you know. And it was a, was a

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movie that became a really bigmovie, really big movie, and she
got a role in that movie, and Idon't begrudge that of her. I
don't I mean good for her,because she went, it has to be
me, and she went for a ballstore and put her hat in the
ring and gave it a go. And thatwas a very painful lesson, but

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not for her, yeah, and I thinkabout that a lot. Is, you know
that you what is that old adageof you miss 100% of the shots
you don't take. And I may nothave got that role or a role in
that film, but now I'll neverknow, and I would rather know
than not know. I would ratherregret what I did as opposed to

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what I didn't do. So I didthings very differently after
that. So, you know, we are thesum of our experiences. And you
know, you know I love a quote,but you know, I love the Nelson
Mandela quote, you know, I neverlose. I either win or I learn.
So I didn't lose that day, butgosh, did I learn. And learning,

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you know, is winning, but itwas, it was a painful lesson.
But the great things, the greatthing about the lessons that
come wrapped in dog shit, so tospeak, the really painful ones,
is that we can't ignore them,and we don't feel and they end
up being our greatest teachers.So everything that happens
serves us as we know, but gosh,did that serve me? It really,

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really did. So yeah, yeah,
yeah. That was a big andpowerful and painful in its own
way, lesson. And I think youknow, what's beautiful about it,
though, for me, is that I see itas kind of like one of those,
you called it a pivotal moment,but it kind of lights that
little fire under your ass,like, never again. Like, never

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again, like, I'm gonna go afterwhat I want. And you also said
in there, you know, that girlnot begrudging her and saying,
because she said it has to beme, which means I can't skip
over the fact that you justbeautifully segued us into and
like I said we're gonna getinto, because you have your own
level of fame in so manydifferent ways.

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Gosh, it's very generous of you.I don't know if I would view it.
Don't be a weirdo. We're gonnatalk about it. But you recently,
last year, you started yourpodcast. It has to be me
podcast. And what do you forpeople who maybe haven't
listened to it yet? We're gonnapoint them in the right
direction, but like, what's thehot beat of that? And like, why

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it has to be me, and what, what?Where did the name come from?
And what does it mean to you?Because I look at your podcast,
just for those of you whohaven't, haven't listened to it
yet, maybe, maybe dia listener,you listen to my my episode that
I was lucky enough to be on, butI see your podcast is a really
beautiful, like, accompaniment.I can't even say that word like

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it's an extension of, I feellike your programs, because it's
so rich with resources andthings that help people, like,
live better, feel better, likewith with all different kinds,
whether it's mental, emotional,physical, somatic, like, there's
so many great guests on but tellme what inspired you like to do

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that, and what, what it has tobe me means,
yeah. I mean, I've wanted to doa podcast for many, many, many
years, and I just didn't havetime, and not because I chose
that I didn't have time out offear, because I think that often
that's an excuse for I don'tthink I'm ready. I just was
traveling the world. I was thespokesperson for KitchenAid. I

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was, you know, consulting withcompanies. I was speaking at
events all over the world. I waswriting books for Random House,
all the things, you know, Ijust, I had a full roster, and
there's only so many hours inthe day. And as you know, to do
a podcast at a high level andreally research your guests and
be present and be ready to havethe kinds of rich conversations

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you want to have with somebody.You know, somebody's got a book.
I read all their books, if that,you know, you know, it requires
a rigor, it requires a presence,and to do it at the level that I
wanted to do it at, I just knewthat I literally did not have
the
time. Oh, look, I look, youdon't do anything half ass. No,
I really don't. You pour yourheart into whatever you're

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doing, because if
it's not as as Do you, andthat's why we get on so well.
Why we met? It was like, Oh,we're sisters from another
mother. This is amazing, but,but you know, you know that
thing where so it has to be me.For me means, you know, when you
just know in your gut, this iswhat I want to do. This is what
I meant to do. This is what Ihave to do. And it doesn't

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matter how afraid you are. Itdoesn't matter what anyone says
you go and do it. That's what ithas to be me means to me. And so
when it was really inspired bythe office hours for my 60 day
reset in skinny 60s. So everyThursday, any member can come
in, and it's just a free forall, meaning anyone can ask me
anything about anything. So itcould be anything from, oh, I

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don't like broccoli, but I knowI want to eat it. How do I make
it taste delicious, too? I can'tget my kids to eat vegetables,
to my husband and I want to eatdifferent things. What do I do
to then it gets quite a bitdeeper with other people, of the
motivation, the core beliefs,limiting beliefs that in that
inform our food and life.Lifestyle choices, our
relationship with food,relationship to dieting, maybe
not wanting to eat and, youknow, maybe feeling like you

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need to starve yourself. I mean,it goes into you've been on one
it can go to many, many places,which is what's so beautiful,
and so it has. The podcast was,was really inspired out of those
office hours, right on of what Irealized was the through line
for all of us is we know thatthe I'm not enough, slash, I'm
too much story. I used to thinkthey were opposites. Now I

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realize it is the same story,just coming at self doubt from a
different angle and amanifestation. It's what holds
us back from believing that wecan meet the moment believe, you
know, from stepping into whereit has to be me claiming our it
has to be me going after it withthe force of thunder, believing
that we can have it actually,right? And so when I was

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thinking about the phrases, youknow, I'm, as you know, in
business, I'm very, verystrategic, and as a business
mentor, I reverse engineereverything. So I'm very, very
into research. I make datadriven decisions about
everything in my life, exceptfor feelings of love and things
we can't quantify, you know. Butif it's a business decision, a
health decision, I'm going tomove I'm going to apply for that

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job, I've got to look at all thedata, and then my intuition
kicks in, and that's what, youknow, I put the two things
together. So when I was thinkingabout what I was going to call
it, you know, I went around andaround and around, you know,
this went on for weeks and weeksand weeks and months and months
as I was mulling this over in myhead. And then finally I got to
a place where I went, what isthe phrase where every single

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time I take action, what's thephrase that I hear in my head?
And it's, it has to be me,that's the phrase. So I went,
Oh, that that's, that's it.That's the anthem and, and it
was the it has finding it has tobe me, was it? It has to be me
moment in the sense of theminute, I went, Yes, there was
no turning back. And then when Igot on board with podcast

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producers, they said, so thename? Open to changing that? And
I went, nope. I said, I'm opento anything else that you
suggest. But for my podcast,this is the name, and I had this
three hour Think Tank sessionwith them, and 10 minutes into
explaining it, they're like, ohGod, we get it now. We so get
it, that's the name, and theneverybody was on board, and it

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was, it's been really amazing.But because I was afraid at
first that it has to be me,anyone that saw it at face value
would be thinking that it wasjust me waxing poetic about how
fantastic I am. It has to be me.I'm amazing, right? And that was
a really deep core fear in me,you know, particularly as a
coach, you never want to make itabout you. You know, it's always

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got to be about how you can bein service of the other person.
And it's not to say that I don'tshare personal anecdotes and
stories where it's applicable,just often, mainly, the reason
I'll do it is to show somebody Istruggle with this too. I know
that you're sitting with me as afacilitator and as a leader of
this experience, thinking she'sso confident I can't believe

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that she could ever feel fear.Oh, believe me, I do every
single day, you know. And I saythis often to people when I'm in
conversation with them, if weaccept the premise that we're
all failing all the time,meaning, though in the moment,
we believe we can be doing itbetter. I just mean, for the
purposes of that conversation,in the beginning, it's a very
inconvenient truth. It's veryuncomfortable. And then when we

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realize that every other personon earth is having the same
experience in a different way,then it then it becomes a
liberating truth. And I actuallystart to laugh when I realize
that the person I'm talking tois feeling it too their way. And
I often say that to people, youknow, and they're like, oh my
god, I can't believe that you itdoesn't even It's unfathomable
to me that you're so confidentthat you could be feeling that

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too. I said, Oh, believe me, Istruggle with that too. And I
use, Yeah, you too, right? Andwe all do. I just, that's why I
continue to put tools in mytoolbox, and I keep using them
so that I can show up like thistoday with you, and I'm going to
give some of them to you rightnow. You know, so I know that

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you're very much a coach of thatilk as well. We practice what we
preach, because you don't everwant to be a fraud like the F
word. People think the scariestF word is fuck. The scariest F
word for me is fraud, right?Yeah.
Well, yeah, I totally, totallyget it. And I think, you know
when we when I was on your show,and we kind of talked about

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this, it's like, you know me,like I said, there's a reason
why, like, A Course in Miraclesreally spoke to me. And so much
is about moving from fear tolove. Because, like, I'm a
person that spent a lot of mylifetime in fiia, and still to
this day, I think people oftenalso read me as somebody who's,
like, always wicked confident.And one of the things we talked
about on when I was on the showwas, like, feeling safe enough,

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right? I just have to be like, Ijust have to get over that lip
and be like, Look, we're gonnado this. Thing. So we can either
do it like terrified, or we cantry to find some fun in it, and
just feels enough safety in mynervous system where we can,
like, get out of that fight andflight experience. So yeah, I
mean, I do think it's reallybeautiful, and I've seen you in
action, coaching, in yourprograms and stuff like that,

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which is kind of where I want tostart to lean in, because I made
that comment, like, You'refamous in your own way, like
people who don't know you know,you know you are going to be
like, What are you talkingabout? So when I read the you
know, told people about your bioand who you are, like, one of
the first things is that you'rean author, and you've written
three books. What? And not onlydid you write three books like,

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man, these were like, bing,bing, bing. 2014 2015 2016 I
like back to back to back toback. That is no joke number
one. And this is your, yourfirst book, right here. It's
beautiful, right? The Blendedgirl, I'm holding it up, yep.
And so this book, the blendedgirl, so here's the thing,
though, in your first book, inthis one, the blender girl, you

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said, So the first book is theblender girl, the second one
from 2015 is the blender girl,smoothies. And then the third
one that came out is called theperfect blend. And like, I could
spend just so much time talkingabout this, I'm going to try to
not, like, drag it on. Buthere's the thing in in your
first book, The blender girl,you have this great story in the

(26:22):
intro where you say, like, Ibecame the blend of Girl by
accident, and you find that takeus, right? I mean, isn't that? I
mean, I can read your exactwords. Yeah. I
love speaking to someone that'sso detail orientated, as I am,
because you just don't forgetanything. So it's fabulous. That

(26:44):
is exactly what I wrote,
yeah, and so. But it goes backthough, to when you were telling
us about your childhood, and Isaid, you know, did your
childhood like influence thework you do now and as a kid
like I think, please forgive meif I'm getting this wrong,
because I'm like the little guysin my brain. It's like a little
it's a little library up there,and I'm having them go through

(27:07):
the Dewey Decimal system rightnow, pulling some things up. But
I almost could have sworn thatwhen you were a kid, your father
called you mouse, yes, like youlove cheese or something as a
kid, and then that all changed,though, right? So, Epstein BA,
like you were diagnosed, andthen it started this whole
journey, and like you were,like, even a perfectionist

(27:30):
around your food, like you saidsomething like, if I'm going to,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna healmyself, even if it kills me, or
something like that, wicked. Butis what I said, okay, so take us
back to like, because look atyou guys, just for one second.
It might be a little you mightfeel a little cringey saying
this, but I want people tounderstand the scope of your

(27:50):
influence. The blend of girlhad, like, millions, I'm not
making that up, right? Likemillions of like followers and
like the whole thing. Yes, thatit started out of your own
desire to feel better in yourbody, in your like, literally,
like walking around the worldfeeling kind of like shit,
feeling lethargic. All thisstuff started when you were

(28:13):
younger, and then, like, it tookyou on this whole journey, and
then you become, like, thismassive success of the blender
girl, three books from RandomHouse. You know, it started,
like, with the blog, blah, but,but tell us that journey and,
like, how we get to be theblender girl?
I know it's, it's, it's, it'samazing. You know, if you had
said to me 15 years ago, you'regoing to become this, this

(28:38):
expert in blenders and write allthese books about healthy
living, I just would have gone,I'm sorry, are you talking to
the same person, you know? Imean, it just life takes you on
a journey, and you just go withit, like water, you know. You
just go with the flow. That'swhat I meant by I became, you
know, it found me, but I alsowas looking for it at the same

(28:58):
time. So, yeah, I, you know,grew up in a pretty conventional
meat and three veg, you know,family, my mother cooked food
from scratch. We didn't eat alot of fast food, you know, we
had a lot of healthy food, sothat was ingrained in me at a
young age. But we enjoyed ourfood. You know, I ate cakes and
two minute noodles, just likeeverybody else, and then when I

(29:22):
was a teenager, I just becamedebilitated with extreme
lethargy. And as someone whoalways had a lot of energy, this
overlook, yeah, right, yeah. Andit was, it was really, really
debilitating. And I did, youknow, I told this story, you
know, in the first episode of mypodcast, where my family is a

(29:43):
family of singers andperformers, and my one of my
favorite thing to do in theworld was stand around the piano
with all my relatives and beltout tunes. And this one day, I
just couldn't do it. I had to goand lie down. And life was
running away from me, and my mumcame in. Said, What is wrong?
Like, you love this. I said, Iknow. And I just burst into

(30:04):
tears. I was diagnosed withEpstein Barr Virus, which is a
similar disorder to chronicfatigue. You're just, it's
debilitating. You just want tosleep all the time. And this
was, you know, I'm 52 now, sothis was many, many years ago.
And so my mother, to her credit,you know, the doctor said,
there's just nothing you can dobut just sleep. And my mum said,

(30:25):
Oh, no, we're not we'reproactive people. No no. So she
just left no stone unturned. Iwill thank her to my dying
breath for this. She took me toa naturopath. He suggested that
I change my diet to empowermyself my body to feel better.
So suggested that I refrain fromeating gluten and dairy, refined

(30:46):
sugars, go into a really wholefood, clean diet. Look at my
protein. I am not a celiac. I'mnot, you know, dairy intolerant,
necessarily. In that sense,lactose intolerant, let's say,
but that's, there's, that's onlyone form of dairy intolerance.
But I felt better within 48hours, and then I just continued

(31:11):
to feel better and better andbetter as I moved into a more
nuanced place with what I wasdoing. And that really was the
impetus into a revolution, intothe way that I ate. So then I
became obsessed. I mean,obsessed I was, you know, we all
know someone like this who findsthe answer every six months and
wants to recruit everybody thatthey know, you know. So I became

(31:33):
quite dogmatic and preachy andoh my god, I was vegan, I was
vegetarian, I was gluten free, Iwas pretty can. I was keto.
Before it was free, I wasmacrobiotic. Yeah, I was
macrobiotic for a number ofyears. Me too, yeah, yeah,
really beautiful. And then whenI turned 18, my old age of 18,

(31:56):
but yeah, with your dad rightwhere, yeah, yeah, I, you know,
we went to this really fancyrestaurant. We'd all been
dreaming of going to superexpensive, you know, blah, blah,
blah. And then, you know, thewaiter comes, wants to tell us
the specials. And I said, Oh,look, um, you know, thank you,
but I can't eat this, and Ican't eat this. And my dad goes,
Can you, can you just give us aminute? And my dad just said,

(32:19):
Okay, you're 18 now. So there'ssomething I've been wanting to
say to you for a long time, andI think you can finally handle
it. He said, we are exhausted.Watching you eat, watching you
order, watching you depriveyourself, and watching you tell
the waiter for 15 minutes allthe things that you can't have.
What about all the things thatyou can have because life and

(32:40):
love and hope and and joy isabout what you add, not about
what you take away. And he said,food is one of the great
pleasures of life. It should befun, don't you think so? Let's
try this again. And it wasreally hard to hear, but he was

(33:02):
right. He was right. And again,it was another tent pole in my
life that health is not aboutdogma. It's not about rigidity.
The keys to health and happinessis about flexibility. You can be
committed to your choices, butflexible with your approach. And
so from that moment, I realizedthat all these different things

(33:26):
that I was obsessively buyinginto that that was the answer.
Now that was the answer. All ofthem had something to offer, but
none of them was one size fitsall. And as we age, our needs
change our hormones, change ouractivity levels, change
medications we might be on allthese different things. So of
course, we have to be fluid withit. So that was I was incredibly

(33:49):
grateful that I learned thatfrom a very, very young age. So
then flash forward when I wasliving in Missouri, in
Springfield, Missouri, in asmaller city, and, you know, I
was fortunate. I was married,you know, to the love of my
life, and we had a lot of money,and I didn't have to work, you

(34:10):
know, but I wanted to work. I'ma worker, but at that time, you
know, I didn't have my greencard. I wasn't an American
citizen. I couldn't legally workthere, so I was flying back and
forth until we were married, andI couldn't actually work. So
when I was there, I wasvolunteering and being active,
but, you know, I wasn't workingas much. I was doing voiceovers,
you know, remotely, and thingslike that, but I wasn't had to
have a full time job. And hesaid, why don't you start a

(34:33):
blog?
This was your win, your
husband at the time, my husbandat the time, you know, who was a
brilliant, brilliant man, anentrepreneur, you know, always
an early adapter or a forwardthinker, a visionary. I mean, he
really, really was an impresarioin many, many respects. I
learned a lot from him aboutbusiness. For sure. Said, Why
you start a blog? And I said,Excuse me. And he said, Well,

(34:55):
just sharing your journey withfood. I went, I'm not a chef.
What have I got to show he goes,Well, every. Time you've got
people over for dinner,everybody asked, what you made,
because it's so delicious. Sojust share your journey with
food. Find a unique perspective,something that's not being done.
And I went, Oh. And so then Iwent into full research mode,
and he helped me, you know, andI was always using my blender

(35:17):
for all these different
things. Can I ask a clarifyingquestion? Yeah. Okay. So when
you were trying all of thosedifferent diets, and you said
you were getting a littledogmatic, and every six months,
it was like, now, this, now,this, now, this was it still in
service to trying to feelbetter. Be like, Yes, right? So

(35:39):
that was the thing, though, itwasn't just like you then
became, you became obsessive, orobsessed about discovering
things, learning things, tryingthings, but it was still in
service to trying to feelbetter, because I think so many
oh gosh, yes, no, I just wantedto. I wanted to have energy.
Yes, I wanted to have energybecause I was just so thirsty

(36:00):
and wanted to do every singlething that I wanted to do,
right? So I still didn't have asmuch energy as I wanted to have.
I'm with you now. Okay, yeah,thank you for asking me to
clarify. Yeah, kind of likecontinues and like, so you're
trying all these things, and soeven when you say to your I
would say your sweetie at thetime, like, I'm not like

(36:22):
whatever. But does some part ofyou get that you are really good
at preparing food? Like, did itnot clock to you how every time
you had people over, like, theyloved what you were making in
your recipes, and they wanted toknow what it was like, could,
did you
just not? But I did. I did, but,but, but, you're right. You

(36:43):
know, I still thought, oh, it'sin my little, small circle of of
the world, my little, smallcircle of friends. And, you
know, it wasn't until much laterthat I realized sometimes the
best teacher for a third graderis a fourth grader. And we don't
have to be the world's foremostauthority on something for our
voice to matter. And so in thatmoment, I wasn't embodying the

(37:06):
lesson that I had learned, youknow, way back when, what we
talked about, and the lessonsthat I've been accumulating
that, yeah, my friends, if myfriends were interested in this,
odds are hundreds of 1000s ofother people would be too, and
they were, you know. So it was areal lesson, but thank you for
clarifying, because it was bornout of a real need to want to be

(37:28):
the best version of myself, thatI wanted to have energy. I
wanted to really live life fullyand take it by the balls and
suck the marrow out of things,and I still was quite tired, and
it was because I wasn't meetingmy protein needs, and I wasn't I
hadn't found the test diet, justlike you want to find the Karen
diet. You know that I waslooking to put myself into a box

(37:49):
that I didn't fit in, which is,I think, the biggest mistake
that most people make, that theythink that there's one one size
fits all with diets, and thereis no one diet that works for
every single person. We all havedifferent we're bio individual
beings. And so once I embracedthis concept of bio
individuality and really startedto move with it, the more I

(38:09):
realized, Oh, the blender is ametaphor for that. Yeah. I
was just gonna ask you that.Yeah. Next question, yeah. So
let's tell them talk about that.Yeah.
Like I was sitting there in myhouse looking at all these
different ways I use my blender,and then I went, that is
actually how I live my life andhow I believe we all live our

(38:30):
lives. We blend different notesand flavors, philosophies,
cultures, experiences, lessons,hobbies, relationships, etc, to
find our perfect blend forhealth and happiness, and that
perfect blend changes, and itcan change, and we want to keep
giving ourselves permission forit to change. We're not chasing

(38:50):
static goals. And the thing Ialso love about the blender is
you can't screw it up. We'regoing to blend it anyway, right?
And I think it really levels theplaying field in the kitchen,
that if you can read and you canpick things up and you can throw
them in the blender, you canstart cooking. And that's what I
really sort of democratizesthings, and it makes healthy,

(39:13):
healthy fast food, possible. Andso I'm making it's not just
smoothies, it's not just soups.You don't coat check your teeth
at the door with Blendercuisine, as I like to call it,
I'm using the blender for anelement of the dish. So it might
be the source that goes on,something I might be, you know,
smooshing the burgers. I mightbe, you know, there's all kinds
of, you know, full meals andsnacks and appetizers and

(39:33):
desserts and everything else,drinks, etc. So then, you know,
flash forward. I started this,this blog, and again, this is
where the strategy came in. Iliterally ready for this. I
backdated my posts for a year. Idid a year's 52 posts. I
launched the blog with 52 postsbecause I didn't want to look
like I only had one post, right?And I seoed the shit out of that

(39:56):
website. I mean,
to the listeners who don't. Whoaren't business.
You know, before the land of AIsearch and stuff like, it's
changed dramatically. But, youknow, I really optimize that
website for internet search. Soif somebody was searching for
blender recipes or what to dowith my vitamins, I would pop

(40:18):
up. And so I did, you know, withRob's help, did very well with
that. And so very, very quickly,you know, chow.com and CBS
interactive reached out to me,and it was sort of off to the
races from there. They justsaid, Who's how do we not know
about you? And I literally said,because I've been blogging for a
nanosecond. And she went Tell meabout that. I said, Well, I
backed my post because I didn'twant to look like I had nothing

(40:40):
to offer. And she goes, what?And she goes, Oh, we've got to
interview you about this. Thisis incredible, right? So I was
just very honest from the anyother way to be, but I was very
honest. And I went and I didsome videos with them. I took my
Vitamix and then Vitamix came tome and asked me to do all their
videos for the Vitamix 750 welaunched that with Jody Berg,
the CEO of the company. And thenthen then I then that's where my

(41:01):
work with companies started. Andthen I didn't realize that I had
that ability to be strategic inthat way. So that opened up that
whole strategic part of me whereI didn't realize that that's
what I was doing quite in thatway. Okay, and can
I interrupt again? I'm beingrude, I know, but please,
I can just sort of go on and onand on,

(41:23):
but you keep using this word,like, strategic. And sometimes
we look at that word and wethink, like, like, so like,
what, like you were beingstrategic, like you just wanted
to whatever. But when you'reusing that word, like, what was
going through your head, becauseyou're like, I started, like,
sitting in my house, in mysweetie, saying, Stata, blog,

(41:45):
like all things test, you don'tjust write one, you write two,
one a week, and you dump it onthe internet, which all sudden,
Google's like, whoa, we can findthis girl. So you get found and
you're in. La, yes at this time,
no, I'm still in Springfield,Missouri, Missouri. Okay,
yes, you're in Missouri. Sosomehow, so, like you said,

(42:06):
Chow, or whatever, chow.com.CBS, they start to pick it up,
and then Vitamix is like,
No, I went and did some videos.I flew to San Francisco and shot
some videos, and they put themon their platform. You must be
like,
your head must have beenspinning, like, what is
happening? But, well, yeah, mypoint is, when you say
strategic, what was your endgoal? Like, what were you

(42:27):
strategizing towards in thisstrategy, strategic thinking
that you were doing? Like, whatdid you have an idea or a dream
or a vision?
Absolutely so in the beginning,it was just to share my
relationship with food and to dosomething meaningful, help
people with their health, helppeople to cook delicious plant

(42:47):
based recipes and makevegetables taste delicious and
like anything that I do, then Ihave to do it at the highest
level. No, you know, that'sjust, that's just who I am, and
I've learned to not apologizefor that, you know, I am an
ambitious person. I want toalways be doing things at the
highest level. And so then,yeah, I was going to turn that

(43:09):
into a huge thing. And then Ialso decided I wanted to bring
the blending and juicing spaceout of the 1970s and turned it
into a really chic, aspirationalthing, you know, and be. And at
that point, nobody was reallydoing anything beyond juices and
smoothies with it, and I wasusing it for compost and
cleaning products and burgersand all these other things. And
so I kind of really, reallywanted to revolutionize the

(43:32):
space, and we did. It was veryexciting. And so I didn't had a
lot of opportunities. It wasreally, really a fun time. And
then I got to, you know, workwith the designers and engineers
on blenders. And it was really,really cool, you know, because
then I started, I bought prettymuch every blender that was sold
on Earth, you know, because Iwanted to test all my recipes on
a bunch of different blenders,not just a $700 Blender. I

(43:54):
wanted to do it in a $70blender, you know, so that
anybody could make these recipeson any budget and any lifestyle,
you know. So I test my recipesat least 50 times before they go
into my books, because they haveto work for anybody with any
kind of blender, you know. So inany situation. So I was, I have
a very rigorous recipedevelopment process. So, you

(44:15):
know, I when you use them all,you start to really notice the
difference between differentmachines. And that's when that
part of my life started to openup, because I was sort of
unofficially giving feedback tocompanies, and then they started
coming, coming to me, going, um,our engineer wants to speak to
you. Would that be all right?Because they're just really

(44:36):
interested in that feedback,because it's pretty bang on and
that's when, that's when, whenyou said, if you told me that
companies were going to pay mean insane amount of money to to
to consult about developingproduct, I would have just
laughed, you know, but you whatdo we get better at what we
practice? And so I just wasblending, you know, 100 times a

(44:58):
day when I was developing. Thesebooks and these recipes for the
blog and recipes for companiesand whatever, whatever. So I was
using a lot of differentmachines a lot, and so it became
very clear to me what made agood blender and what did not
make a good blender, you know.And so I sort of came up with my
own methodology around that, youknow, it was very much. I was
very much self taught, but, butthe feedback was useful,

(45:21):
thankfully, and a bunch ofdifferent companies have used
it, which is amazing.
What I think is incredible is Ican look back at your childhood
and I can see all the pieces,all the pieces. A normal,
average person who is first ofall, just writing a blog at home
is not most writers I know arelike, don't put a fucking camera

(45:42):
near me. I don't want to dovideo. Most podcasts, a lot of
podcasters I know, are like,don't turn on a camera. I'm not
posting this to YouTube. Mostwriters are like, Oh, I got to
take a picture for my authorpicture at the back jacket.
Like, but when these people cameknocking, first of all, you're
an actress, they're like, make avideo. You're like, sure, you

(46:02):
know what I mean? Like, yeah,
look, I was very, veryfortunate. You're right, you
know, because I Yeah, place
which is beautiful. It was likeyour life was preparing you for
this moment. It was like thedivine had dropped these
breadcrumbs that like when thetime came. And also by virtue of
you and your own hard work ethicand who you are, and the fact

(46:23):
that you're a bright light, andyou're, first of all, easy on
the eyes, easy to look at, easyto look at, great to listen to,
great. I mean, you're a voiceover actor. For people who don't
know that, want to tell a littlepeople what that act I know,
most people do know, but forpeople who might not know you
also do that work, which is, Idon't want to speak for you, so
you
will, no, no, it's okay. No,you're right. At that point, I

(46:45):
had been the voice of, you know,Clairol, and I'd done ads for
target and Motorola, hugecompanies, you know, I'd done
1000s of commercials. And so,you know, voicing commercials, I
later on, you know, have voicedcharacters in video games and
short form narration, long formnarration, audio books, all
kinds of stuff. So I was verycomfortable on camera and very

(47:07):
comfortable public speaking.And, you know, that's, you know,
most people that they're moreafraid of that than death, yeah,
so I, but I wasn't a writer. Ididn't consider myself to be a
writer like we all. We are allwriters, by the way. We're all
writing emails and writing notesto ourselves and all the things,
you know, but I hadn't done anyreal formal writing at that
point, but everything else I haddone at a high level. So I was

(47:29):
very, very fortunate that I hadthe whole package, so to speak,
which is how people werephrasing it when they were
coming to me. You know, that Ihad a skill set that I could
leverage to be the spokespersonfor KitchenAid to, you know, do
the videos for Vitamix, to dovideos for these other companies
to work with, you know,different hotel chains and
restaurant chains and all theall the companies that I've

(47:49):
worked with now, it did serve mevery well. My I was able to
bring all of my talents andskills together in service of
this, you know, because we arein, you know, an age where video
is the king of content, youknow. So I was extremely
fortunate that I already had
that skill. Oh, my God. I mean,there's so much like, I feel

(48:10):
like I'm like, and I know wehave a hard stop, and so I want
to definitely talk about yourprograms, but I can't pass it
by, because, hello, just curiousperson. And when you when
somebody drops bread crumbs in aconversation, I My brain's kind
of like putting the piecestogether. So you mentioned Rob,
right? You mentioned your yoursweetie, who was instrumental in

(48:31):
helping you kind of kick offthis thing. And you also
mentioned that he was anentrepreneur, and that he was
brilliant. He was this brilliantman. And I seem to remember a
story of, like, how you guysfirst met, like, didn't you meet
a friend? And then the friendcalled her brother and said, I
met the woman you're gonna Oh,yeah. I mean, that's him, yeah,

(48:52):
he called it that, right? Thesystem your friend, you met a
friend, yes, and that friend wasthe sister to your future
husband, and then you alsomentioned, I'm single for the
first time in my life, sorobbing you that's no longer
like, can you tell
like, yeah, yeah, no. I mean, I

(49:13):
did he get to see you becomereally famous and kicking
you know? I don't, I don't know.I don't know if he ever really
knew about that, because I hadnot. He has passed away now, but
I don't know if he ever saw mybooks. I would imagine that he
did, but I don't know. We didn'thave an I didn't have any hadn't
had any contact with him for 15years prior to him dying. But he

(49:39):
No he he he was an alcoholic, hewas a drug addict. He was an
addict of every description. Andhe had a troubled childhood. He
was running away, you know, froma lot of things and not being
honest about what he wanted. Andyeah, he. You overdosed, and

(50:01):
there were, you know, he was inand out of treatment centers. It
was really, really traumatic,and he was in a lot of pain.
And, oh, I would have stayedwith that and and run that
marathon with him, but he justdidn't want to be married.
Didn't want to be married to me.And, you know, basically came to
me and told me that, and I justdidn't want to let it go. And I

(50:23):
was pushing and pushing, we'remeant to be together, you know?
And finally, it just wasn't anyuse. So I was devastated,
utterly heartbroken, the mostpain I've ever been in in my
entire life, and that story wasgut wrenching, and that's why I
moved out to LA, and because Ithought, You know what? I I love

(50:47):
LA. I love America. You know,I've spent more of my life here,
you know, more of my life inAmerica than I have anywhere
else at this point in my life.But back then, I went, you know
what? I didn't get anything fromthis, but a broken heart and a
lot of lessons. I'm taking thisfor a spin. I'm not ready to
return to Australia, so Idecided, you know, this is, this
is the land of opportunity andentertainment and story and all

(51:10):
the things. And I'm so glad thatI stayed, because it was
extraordinary and but that thatexperience was the making of me
in so many ways. And I think forthe rest of my life, he will be.
And that story, that chapter ofmy life, will be one of my
greatest teachers, if not thegreatest teacher.
It's such a tender thing, and itstill is and always will be.

(51:33):
Yeah. I mean, it was a beautifulbeginning. It was like Kismet.
It was like divinely, you know,
God, we have the same, we hadthe same birthday. So crazy.
It's like
I and I try to picture him in myhead. Was he also really? Was
he? Was he nice to look at? Washe a good oh, he was gorgeous.
He was gorgeous, and he wassweet, and he was kind, and he

(51:56):
was gentle, he was brilliant. Hestruggled brilliant, and he was
so troubled, all at the sametime, all at the same
time, and how, what were you?What age were you guys, when you
were together, when you were
partnering? Yeah, I was 30. Iwas 30 and and then when we
separated, I was 37 Yeah, butwe, but we had been friends for

(52:18):
seven years prior to that, so Iknew him, yeah, the phone calls,
yeah, I knew him. You know,really, I knew him since I was
22 so we fell we fell in loveover the phone. We spoke on the
phone for seven years,
okay? And then you finally metin person
in Hawaii, he said, let's meethalfway. Let's just meet

(52:39):
halfway, and just see what thisis. And it was an it has to be
me moment. I didn't evenhesitate. Like my friends were
like, Are you sure you want todo this? I went, Yeah, I'm
really sure, because otherwiseI'll never know. And when I saw
him and I met him, and we weretogether in person, it was just
electric, like it was like, mybody, my soul, belonged to him,

(53:00):
and he felt the same way. And itwas just, I have to be with him
no matter what it costs me, nomatter what I mean, I literally
gave up so many things in mylife to be with him. And I don't
regret it. I don't regret itbecause even though I missed out
on a lot of very bigopportunities in my career, I
the lessons that I got, and Iwouldn't be where I am today

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because of it. And this wasclearly the path that I was
meant to be on in this life. AndI just trust it. And like I
said, it brought me to thismoment and and I will say, as a
coach, because you know, youknow you and I have spoken about
this, we're both very, veryintuitive. So that intuition in
me, those intuitive hits that Iget when I'm coaching people,

(53:44):
they're getting stronger andstronger. And I really, truly
believe that it was that chapterthat really was the beginning of
me honing those skills, eventhough I wasn't really listening
to them as much as I should havebeen back then, because I was
just in so much pain, and Iwanted to see what I wanted to
see. You know, as we, as we all,do when we're in pain, but when

(54:04):
I'm coaching somebody else, youknow, you can see it a lot more
clearly when you're not insideof it, you know. And I believe
that I'm able to be present withpeople and meet them with
compassion, because I trulyunderstand what it's like to be
on your knees and want to die.And prior to that experience, I,

(54:24):
I would say I had a prettycharmed life, you know, I had an
amazing family. There wasn't alot of tragedy in our lives.
Unlike you, Karen, you know, weyou, you met that tragedy very
early on in your life. I didnot. And so, you know, I could
imagine I was, I had a lot ofempathy, and my imagination was
very powerful as an actor, youknow, I could imagine what it

(54:47):
felt like to have a brokenheart, but I'd never had one.
And so now I have a visceralrelationship with that pain.
And, you know, addiction, whenyou put alcoholism, drug
addiction, sex addiction, andall these addictions on top of.
It. They're all diseases ofdenial. And going to Al Anon was
really life changing for mebecause, you know, right? Yeah,

(55:08):
because, you know, you wentbefore you go, you think the
addicts, the one with theproblem, I can fix things. I've
got my shit together, andthey're a hot mess. You know,
that's kind of seriously. I wasvery arrogant. That's how I
felt. Oh, poor Rob, he's got allthese problems. Then you go to
Al Anon, and you realize you'rejust as sick as the addict.
You've got a different kind ofaddiction, you've got a
different kind of addiction, anda different kind of your code.

(55:30):
You're playing into thecodependence in a different way.
So being in the program was, wasa huge, huge series of it has to
be me's as well, you know. And Icredit that every day, you know,
I still have hope for today,courage for today by my bed, you
know. And they're beautifulreminders, you know. And the
Serenity Prayer, you know, is abeautiful way to move through

(55:51):
the world as well, but you know.And then another phrase that I
think about from Al Anon isworrying is like a rocking
chair, it gives you something todo, but in the end gets you
nowhere. And I was a chronicworrier, and now I'm not,
because I want to put my energyinto manifesting and making the
things that I want come intofruition, not spending my time

(56:12):
feeding what I don't want tohappen. And so yeah, it was, it
was, it was a beautiful gift inmy life that came accompanied
with a lot of pain, and now it'sjust incredibly liberating, and
it's it, it carries me. Itcarries me with everything I do.

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I, first of all, I'm so sorry tohear that he's no longer with
us. And yeah,
he killed himself. He finallykilled himself. He tried many,
many times before we weretogether, while we were
together, and then he finallydid it. And you know, I'm just
grateful that on my watch, so tospeak, I was able to save his
life. I mean, what a privilegeto be able to save a human

(56:52):
being's life. You know, I had towade through water. I almost
drowned. I was in the ambulancewith him. He died three times on
the way to the hospital. Iwatched them intubate him and
cut his clothes off. I mean, itwas just harrowing. And then he
was in intensive care. It was,was really full on. And then he
finally
survived that. And then it wasafter you, after you were
divorced, or after you weresplit up,

(57:13):
after we were divorced, yeah,many, many years later, by the
way, many years later. So, yeah,yeah. Three years ago, three
years ago, he he killed himself.Oh, just three years ago. Yes,
yes. Oh, my God. And, you know,I knew, I knew, like, I felt it,
I felt it, you know, we werethat connected. So, yeah. And
then my friend called, and theminute I picked up the phone,

(57:36):
yes, yeah, yeah, I'm so sorry,yeah.
I mean, you know what that'slike with your mother? You know
it's,
I mean that. I mean, yeah, Imean that loss and pain of that
magnitude, it totally brings youto your knees. And I also think

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it can be when. I always saywhen and if it's not. I can't
speak for other people. It'stheir journey. But for me, it
can be an incredible doorway aswell. It can open a door to, oh,
absolutely different way, manydoors living, way being, in
thinking, and it clearly has foryou. And I think that, like,

(58:17):
it's so interesting, right? Isometimes think this about
coaches, you know, like, one ofthe things I love, Mr. Rogers,
Mr. Fred Rogers, I told you thatbefore. And you know, there's
that great quote from his mom,like, when scary things happen
or big things, traumatic thingshappen in the world, look for
the helpers. They'll always behelpers. And I often think that

(58:38):
coaches are just like, Ijokingly say it like, you know,
but we're like, kind ofcodependent helpers, like we
love to help, like we love tofucking help. You got a problem?
Like, problem solvers,anonymous, I should go to a
problem solvers. If there's aproblem I'm there, like, I'm in,
you know, drama. I'm not intodrama, but I love solving a good

(58:59):
problem, right? Let yo you got athing. Let me help you, right?
Okay, which leads us kind ofinto, you know, Blender girl,
all this stuff, fame, Vitamix,this that you're still doing
some acting. You're doing allthese beautiful things, and
then, like, what happens insideof you when you go from talking
to the masses on mass scale withlike, books and a blog and the

(59:24):
videos and the representing andthe speaking on stages, and I'm
doing all this stuff to goinglike, I want to get intimate
with people. Like, I want to getin a program, in a group where
there's like, people can talk tome, people can talk to my
dieticians, because, again, youdon't do anything half ass. And
I think so many programs, right,there's, there's nutritional

(59:46):
coaches and whatever, butdietitians is a whole other
level. So you created theseprograms to help people. And I
don't want to speak, I was luckyenough to go through one of your
programs because, you know,we've talked about it. I. Never
like to really talk about athing or promote a thing or
share a thing unless I've hadthe experience
myself. I'm the same way. I'mexactly the same way. I have so

(01:00:09):
much respect for you in thatregard, because I'm exactly the
same way. Yeah, speak aboutsomething with any kind of
authority if you haven'texperienced it. Yeah?
And I want to know, like, what'sit like to be in that face
group? What's it like? And I canjust say, and I can share my own
thoughts about, I can share, Ican talk about you to your face
in a few minutes. But like, whathappens when you go from this
massive success of the threebooks and all the things like,

(01:00:32):
what does something shift insideof you? Or does something where,
or is it like again, yourbrilliant, strategic, you know,
business mind, like, how do weget to the skinny 60? And
caveat, I gotta put a littlething please talk about that
name, because I know peoplelike, will hear skinny and go
like, Wait, what's that

(01:00:53):
about all of this opportunity?Yeah, yeah. No. So you know, I
was incredibly fortunate that mybooks were very, very
successful, and they've soldhundreds of 1000s of copies. And
I went on international booktours, and I met 1000s and 1000s
of people, which was such a joy,because I actually prefer one to
one or very small groups. I lovespeaking to huge crowds and

(01:01:14):
1000s of people, but I really,really love to meet people one
on one, and hear their story andconnect with them heart to
heart, and really get a sense ofthings. So it was a great
opportunity. You know, WilliamSonoma made my book their
featured book for May andMother's Day, and every store in
the country cooked their waythrough my book. And I had a lot
of other brand partners and lotsof opportunities to meet people
around the world. And everybodyloved the recipes. They were so

(01:01:36):
excited about it. They weremaking the food I was I did a
lot of events where I wascooking with people, and we were
tasting the food, and I wasteaching people how to tweak
things and make it their own.And, you know, riff off of
recipes, and that was reallyfun. And, you know, in the
blender girl book, specifically,there's a big, you know,
narrative section where I goover all the tent poles of
health and nutrition, what Ibelieve are the most important I

(01:01:56):
was gonna ask you, right, yes,yeah, and how it feeds into the
philosophy behind the book andhow I develop recipes and why I
include certain ingredients andnot other ingredients and etc.
And that is developed beyond thefirst book as well, by the way.
You know, as we learn more aboutingredients, etc. So as I was
meeting all these people, thesame things kept coming up. Was
the people wanted more guidance,and they wanted expert guidance

(01:02:19):
that the recipes weren't enough.It was a huge piece of it to be
able to eat delicious food andget excited about eating
vegetables, but they needed moreguidance about these other
aspects of their health, and itneeded to be very tailored and
personalized, because thereisn't just one blanket way, as
we were saying. And so whilst Ihave studied health and
nutrition, I'm a huge FactFinder. I know a lot about this.

(01:02:41):
I don't have a medical license.I In a previous, you know, life.
I could have been a dietitian ora doctor, you know, I was
thinking about being a doctorfor a little bit, you know, but
I always just wanted to be partof story. I wanted to be on the
stage. I wanted to be but, youknow, I wanted to be doing all
these things, and you can't doeverything. So I didn't go and
do that. So it's very, veryimportant to me that if I was
going to create programs. Theywere people were going to be

(01:03:03):
under the care of people withmedical licenses. There's just
so many influences, people onInstagram, people that have a
lot of followers. And eventhough, yeah, I have, you know,
we've got, what, almost 2million followers. You know, in
social media, particularly onFacebook, that doesn't mean
anything, you know, it doesn'tmean anything. You could have
one viral post and, you know, acelebrity talks about you, or a

(01:03:23):
media outlet talks about you,and then all of a sudden you've
got all these followers, youknow, that was certainly the
case for me. I've spoken toGoogle and Facebook and been at
all these big events, and I hadall these strategic partners,
and that's how I grew myfollowing, in addition to being
on these tours, you know. Butokay, that doesn't mean I'm
qualified to tell you about yourhealth, a medical practitioner
is qualified to do that, anddietitians are the medical

(01:03:46):
practitioners that eat, sleepand breathe, how to use food as
a functional tool for better,like medicine. Like food is
medicine Exactly. And just likea cardiologist is who you're
going to go to for your heart,an endocrinologist is who you're
going to go to if you havediabetes, etc, so they've all
got their different specialties,but because we're all eating
multiple times a day, Mo, theaverage medical practitioner

(01:04:09):
gets three hours or half a day,day at the most of nutrition
training in their entire medicalcareer, unless they go and
actively seek out furthertraining. So they don't really
understand the nuances of how,how to use food. They know the
basics, but they don't knowanything beyond that. Whereas
dietitians, and then dietitiansgo into specialties, you know
they you have dietitians thatspecialize in oncology and

(01:04:31):
breast cancer, you've got peoplethat specialize in diabetes,
people that specialize indigestive health. So that was
really important to me. Soeverything had to be based in
science. I'm a very, veryscience, science driven person.
And if it's not under Indianundeniable, indisputable
science, I'm not interested init, you know. So it has to be
that way. So when it came timeto develop the skinny 60 and

(01:04:53):
seek the 60 day reset, we had tohave dietitians facilitating
that program. So I really stayin my lane. And I help people
make it delicious. I help butmake them work in their
lifestyle. I work on the mindsetpiece of it, that's my
specialty. And then all the allthe nutrition education and
guidance comes from medicalpractitioners. So when you put

(01:05:14):
those different elementstogether, that's where the magic
happens. So when it came time tothink about it, you know that
it's a very methodical,strategic way why it's 60 days,
because it takes, you know, thatlong to really implement
different strategies and makethem start to become habits.
You're also going to go throughtwo hormonal cycles, because
that inextricably affects yourmetabolism, your metabolic

(01:05:36):
function, your blood sugar, allthe things, and then a digestive
reset. Really takes that muchtime and more for some people,
so we need that amount of timestrategically to really make a
difference. And then the skinnypart of it, skinny 60. We're all
so obsessed about our weight andwanting to be thin and skinny

(01:05:59):
and beautiful, we're brainwashedinto thinking the only way that
we can do that is to depriveourselves, to starve ourselves,
to diet, to be thin andbeautiful. You can't have a
fuller figure. Weight is onlyone measure of health, and I
would argue, the least reliableindicator of health. So we're
wanting to really re educatepeople on our relationship to

(01:06:20):
skinny, our relationship toweight and that we're looking at
your blood sugar, your sleep andenergy, your bowel movements,
the inflammation markers in yourbody, your blood pressure, your
blood sugar, your cholesterol,etc, there are so your mood
stability, you know whether yourhormones are optimized. There's
so many other markers of betterhealth that are more important

(01:06:42):
doesn't mean that we don't wantto be a healthy weight. I'm not
discounting that, but we're notleading with that. And so, you
know, in other circles, skinnyis another term for getting the
information, absolutely gettingthe skinny on something. So for
me, it was like, Oh, we want tohelp people get the skinny on

(01:07:02):
how their body can function inan optimal level at this chapter
in their life, at this age,because what's going to work for
you at 40 is different than whenyou're 70. So we're wanting to
work with every single person ona bio, individual, personal
level. It's a very, very, verypersonal program. That's why
it's not a guy. It's not a selfguided program. We have to get

(01:07:24):
in there with every person. Soeverybody gets a questionnaire,
very detailed, you know, we givethem a very, very detailed
response on how to make ourprogram work for them. And then
we got to keep tweaking andworking with each person to make
sure that they're going to findthe Karen, the Karen way of
doing, you know, using our bagof tools. Because really, it's
just a bag of tools. We're notpushing any one diet. So we've

(01:07:46):
got vegans, vegetarians,pescatarians, omnivores,
whatever you choose to do that,that's, that's, that's your
choice. But everybody should beplant based, meaning our diet is
based in plants, and then wesupplement with other quality
foods, about choice, and sothat's really where we're coming
at it is wanting to help peopleput the different pieces of the

(01:08:09):
puzzle together. You know,pieces of the pie. Everybody's
got a different way of sayingthat, but, you know, and that
takes that takes training, andit takes help. We can't do it on
our own, you know, because we'renot medical practitioners, most
of us, and even, you know, wehave a lot of doctors and a lot
of medical practitioners thattake our program as participants
and that, you know, you can'tdiagnose yourself. Yeah, so,

(01:08:30):
yeah, it's a really, it's areally exhilarating process. Is
the word that I would choose touse, because it's really fun to
get in there and figure outwhat's going to be the things
that move the needle for every
person. Okay, so let me, let meask a follow up question. So
somebody who's listening to thisand they're like, Okay, Tess is
amazing. I love her energy. Shehas these programs. Can we kind

(01:08:52):
of just get into the nittygritty a little bit about it,
like, so ideally, or not evenideally, like somebody might not
have Epstein Barr or thewhatever, but it's somebody
who's like, I've been feelinglike, not that great, not
feeling like myself. You know,the menopause middle, we call
it, right? I'm getting a belly.I'm like, perimenopause. What

(01:09:14):
are these hot flashes? Right?All these things that are like,
going on. So I want, I have justa very specific questions,
because I know we only have,like, 10 minutes, and I want to
make sure somebody who'slistening to this can identify
if something working with you isgoing to be helpful to them. Do
men and women do the program? Sothe 60 day reset is the one

(01:09:36):
that's coming up. I don't knowwhen people are going to listen
to this, but I know in January2026, you have another, a new 60
day session coming up,
correct? Yeah, we lead it fourtimes a year so, and maybe at
some point we might lead itmore, but at the moment, we lead
it four times a year.
Okay, so you have one coming upin January. So somebody's
listening to this, and is there,kind of like, how do I say this?

(01:09:59):
Okay. Are, is there certaingroups of people that tend to
want to take this program? Orwhy do people come and take the
60 day reset? Like, what'susually going on with them?
Like, what part of their oh,
gosh, it's, it's, it's so manydifferent people from so many
different walks of life. So ourmain demographic is women over
40. Okay? Women their 40s, 50s,60s and 70s. But we do. We have

(01:10:22):
health people in their 20s and30s. We do have men doing the
program, but it's primarilywomen. But a lot of husbands do
it with their partners. Youknow, because you've been in the
same food, you're eating thesame food, yeah, and they get
the benefit, which is great. Wedo have a lot of siblings, a lot
of co workers, a lot of youknow, a lot of husbands and
wives or partners. You know,wives and wives, husbands and
husbands, whatever. We have alot of that going on, but it's

(01:10:45):
people that just want to feelbetter. So it's people that have
low energy. Their hormones areall over wicked. Got really
chronic menopause symptoms.They're not sleeping through the
night. They can't lose weight nomatter what they've been doing.
A lot of doctors andpractitioners will send people
because the a one sees they'repre diabetic, or they're already
diabetic, they're high they'vegot high blood pressure and
cholesterol. They need toregulate all that their numbers.

(01:11:05):
And
so people are able to thingsthat come with having a body
Pretty
much, yeah, yet, people that areconstipated, people that have
diarrhea, people that havedigestive health issues, a lot
of people that come in withHashimotos, graves, thyroid
disease, fatty liver. I mean,look, if you've got any kind of
health issue, or you're just notfeeling as good as you want to
feel, or you just want to feelbetter, we do have people that

(01:11:28):
come in, like, I don't reallyhave any health issues, but I
don't want to get any, you know,Mike, we've got a family history
of XYZ, and I don't want to getit. I want to be proactive. And,
I mean, that's amazing, too. So,you know, people are able to
regulate their numbers in 60days. You know, it's quite
remarkable. So we're really bigon blood work, you know, you
don't have to do it, but we dorecommend you get that data and
have blood taken, you know,within six months of starting

(01:11:51):
the program, and then you get ittaken three months, you know,
later, and the results aredramatic that you know, the
blood is the truth serum of thebody. It doesn't lie. You know,
you can't lie. You can't arguewith those results. So it's
really extraordinary. Whathappens when you start to eat
strategically for your body,meaning, what's going to work
for you is slightly differentthan what's going to work for

(01:12:12):
me, you know. So we have thesame general principles, but how
you would implement it would bedifferent.
So just and blend, blend in thedifferent approaches. Okay,
yeah. So what can they kind ofexpect? Like, I know it's a 60
day program. I can just say,from going through it, you guys
the amount of love and care thatI know you have poured and I'm
not just saying this, thosedaily emails alone, like, again,

(01:12:36):
because I look at everything as,yes, somebody who's going
through the program andexperiencing it. But my other
part of my brain is like, outhere watching and going like, Oh
my God, just as a coach, afellow coach, and a business
owner, and whatever, the amountof time, the amount of attention
you had to pay to reallyunderstand, oh. Day three,

(01:12:57):
they're starting to get nervous.Day 10, this is what's going on
inside them day 14. And each daythey're getting these it's like,
literally, not only you holdingtheir hand and meeting them each
day with an email over those 60days. Then there's like, what
the weekly calls with you, thegroup calls where they can ask
questions. So can you just kindof tell them, like, what they

(01:13:19):
might experience in the programso they can envision themselves
if it's a good fit for them.Yeah,
yeah. And look, you know, anyonethat has any questions can
always get on a 15 minute callwith me. You know, you can flip
that through the website,because you do want to make
sure, if you're going to spend60 days on something, it's not
just a financial commitment,it's an energetic heart song
commitment. And people have beenso burnt by so many things, and

(01:13:40):
then you start to think thatnothing's going to work, and you
don't want to spend time andmoney on something that's not
going to work. So you want toknow it's the right fit, you
know, because you want to beexcited about being there. So
yeah, you know, we it's a lot ofhand holding. It's very
personal. So you come in,there's a Live prep week where
we have three live video calls,and everybody says they feel so
much better after those calls,which is why we add that prep
week. And then we start day onea week later. And then we all go

(01:14:03):
through the program. Everybodyin the world goes through it at
the same time for 60 days. Youget a daily email. And you know,
after having done this for sixyears now this particular
program, we just know what thetrajectory looks like for the
average person. So those dailyemails are just their
motivation. You know, it'sthings you want to be looking
at, and those can be reallyhelpful. And then we have two
live video calls, one with thedietitian every week. It's a Q

(01:14:24):
and A we cover a different partof the program. It's a nutrition
education and then anybody canbe on Zoom and ask any questions
about anything. So it's a reallygreat opportunity to speak to a
dietitian face to face and askany questions you might have.
There's also unlimited emailsupport, so you can email our
team at any time and askquestions about anything. Then
there's the Facebook group whereyou can also interact. Then my

(01:14:46):
office hours is that open, youknow, call that lasts for
several hours every week. Oranyone can come in at any time
and you can watch the recordingsif you can't join live and then,
but it's, how are we gettingthey can get their personal
questions answered, like to getall.
Ways You have to be able to dothat. You have to. So, yeah,
everyone gets a questionnaire atthe beginning of the program.
You do some evaluations, so wecan really help you customize

(01:15:09):
it. And then we supply mealplans and hundreds of recipes,
but you don't have to followthem. You can eat out and
travel. You can cook one mealand eat it with your family.
That's why it has to happen livetoo, because everyone's in a
different situation. Well, I'vegot my dream trip to Paris for a
week. I can I do the Yep, youcan. Let me show you how you can
do it, you know. And it's allabout balance. I can eat. We eat

(01:15:30):
out a lot great. Like, we've hadpeople that haven't made one
single recipe, and, like, we'vegot people that were there doing
kitchen renovations, and theythey just stop off at the
grocery store on the way homeand pick up food at their
favorite restaurants. And we canhelp people. Okay, what do you
like to eat? Where do you liketo eat? Blah, blah, blah. Okay,
let me I mean, I can do this atGolden Corral to Marie calendars
to Chipotle, you know. So, Imean, this can be done. So it's

(01:15:51):
just figuring it out, and alsothe personalities of each
person. Everybody learnsdifferently. Everybody's got
slightly different obstacles,things they're dealing with. You
know, you might be caring forelderly parents. You might have
teenage children who are pickyeaters. You might have, you
know, athlete, you know, 18 yearolds that need a lot of
sustenance. I mean, there's justso many different situations,

(01:16:12):
and so that's why it has tohappen live as well. So it's
very, it's very customized, but,yeah, I mean, that's what's fun
about it. I'm, you know, mydietitians and I, we always love
it when we get a question wehaven't been asked before, we're
like, yeah, we're like, yeah,let's get into this, you know,
because it's just, it's just sointeresting to to work through
that with people.
Well, I mean, I can feel yourpassion for it. And I have,
like, I said, I went through it.I've been in the grooves. I've

(01:16:35):
seen you on the calls and, like,the the variety of questions.
I'm like, and, man, you can justanswer them like, and what I
love too, is you're like, if youdon't know an answer, you're
like, we're gonna find out, andwe're gonna come back and we're
gonna be able to help you, andwe and
if we've got to bring anotherexpert, we will, yeah, so, I
mean, that's what's great aboutthat, being connected to

(01:16:55):
practitioners at the highestlevel, you know, like Megan, our
lead dietitian sees, she's theDirector of health
communications at the celiacdisease Foundation, and she
they're using, you know, thestudy in celiac disease to study
all other autoimmune conditions,because it's the only autoimmune
condition where we know thetrigger gluten, you know. So
she's on the forefront of all ofthat, that that research, you

(01:17:16):
know. And she's atgastroenterology conferences all
the time, you know. So thatwe've just got a lot of people
that are, you know, really onthe forefront of what's coming
out right now. We also, youknow, update our website every
single December to make sureit's in line with global health
recommendations and the latestscience and research. So it's a
very, it's very much a living,breathing website. We've got to
make sure that we're givingpeople the most up to date

(01:17:37):
information. So that's fun, too.You know, science is science is
fun.
Oh my gosh, there's so much. Andit sounds like it's totally
like, the opposite of like adiet, like that diet culture, it
feels like we don't want youhate you're like, not a fan of
diets,
not a fan, not a fan. I mean, Ilove to eat, and I love to eat a

(01:17:58):
lot, and that, you know, that isthe biggest thing that we find,
is most women in particular areunder nourishing themselves.
They're actually not eatingenough, and that gets in the way
of better thyroid function andbetter metabolic function. And
so then you can't maintain ahealthy weight or lose weight
when you're not optimizing yourbody function. So it's look, if
I had $1 for every person thatsays to me, I'm losing weight

(01:18:20):
easily eating more food thanI've ever eaten in my life
before. I can't believe this,and I'm like, isn't it awesome?
Welcome to the Promised Land, myfriend. And
all those questions that youhave and get so confused by
because, like you said, theinfluences in the internet. It's
like, you know, why is the gutmicrobiome so important? Why is
gut health so important? Am Ieating enough protein? What am I

(01:18:41):
supposed to be doing now I'm inmenopause. Like, look like, it's
a, you're like, a one stop shop.Like, people can come in get the
support they need. Like, learn.So, like, that's the exciting
thing too. It's like so manyprograms. What makes one of the
things that makes your programso different is that it is so
individualized. A lot of people,like other programs just kind of

(01:19:01):
dump, like, like, like, pray andspray, you know what? Everyone
pray and pray and like, hope youcan figure it out. But there's
so much, like, individualizedand from experts, like, true
experts, not just like, Oh, mysister went through the
nutritional coaching programover the weekend. You know it's
like, and I think the otherthing too, is that you're, I

(01:19:23):
mean, first of all, you guys,come on. You can't be around
tests and not have a good time.But like, you're making healthy
choices and sustain. You'remaking it sustainable and wicked
important. You're making it fun.
Oh, it has to be fun, and it hasto be sustainable. Otherwise,
healthy habits don't stick.Okay, got to want to keep doing

(01:19:43):
it, and it doesn't mean we do itevery minute of the day. That's
the other really importantthing. You know, our superpower
is our Achilles heel. When notheld in balance, we don't want
to be living in extremes. We'reall going to eat the potato
chips or the donut or thewhatever your, your, your, you
know, lovely, yummy. Food ofchoices, comfort food of
choices. We just don't do itevery day. Yeah, so it's about

(01:20:04):
finding a place for all of it.And I don't believe in saying I
can't eat that unless you'reanaphylactically allergic to it
or something, then for sure,right? No, don't, please don't
eat it. But most people, youknow, we don't want to be
feeling guilt about and shameabout food, I choose to just not
feel that way, and I encourageeverybody else to feel okay. I
ate it. So what'd you learn?What'd you learn? Did you enjoy

(01:20:28):
it? Did you have fun? Great. Sonext choice we get to, we get to
make a different decision, youknow, and whatever. And
sometimes we eat the doughnut,and it was a delicious Did you
laugh with your friend? Did youmake a happy memory then
Awesome. That's a great reasonto eat the donut.
I'm so lucky that here in NewHampshire, we have an incredible
bakery that makes vegan donutsthat, Oh, you just can't, you

(01:20:51):
just can't. Even if you evercome here, we will go to lumber
deal you're on. I know you gottago. But two super fast
questions, if somebody is, like,interested, and they're like, I
want to learn more. All yourways to find you are going to be
in the show notes and all thatyou can just, we can rattle them
off too here, if you want to.But my question is, if somebody,

(01:21:11):
like, wants to start something,they don't want to wait till
January, they're not ready,maybe to do 60 days. Don't you
have, like, a seven day programwhere they can get their feet
wet?
Yes? Yeah, we've got a seven daykickstart, which is kind of a
one week taste of the program.So a lot of people do that. A
lot of people do that. And Iwill, I do do guided versions of

(01:21:32):
that too. So periodicallythroughout the year, where you
can come in and actually getcoached with me for a week. And
we would that that has threelive video calls as well. So a
lot of people do that becauseit's it's quite extraordinary.
What can happen in a week, whichis unbelievable, I know, but
then you feel it in your body,like there's one thing to know
it intellectually and kind ofbuy into the science of it, or

(01:21:55):
the, yeah, I understand the guthealth piece. I understand
needing the protein, butregulating my blood sugar, etc,
but then when you feel it inyour body, you can't go You
can't deny that. You can't getaway from that like, Oh, my God,
I'm all of a sudden sleepingthrough the night when I haven't
for many, many years. I've allof a sudden lost a few pounds
when I didn't think that waspossible. I think that's what
holds a lot of people back, isthis, oh, I've just got one of

(01:22:18):
those bodies where I just can'tlose weight at this age or their
spinal body, right? I'm 70 andI'm always going to have to get
up multiple times to pee. We'vegot women in their 70s who are
sleeping through the night forthe first time in their lives,
right? So these myths that wehold on to just just don't have
to be true. You know? We there'smany things we can do, and we

(01:22:40):
are in control of how our bodyfeels. I know that if you've got
diseases and disorders andyou're born with things, that
you've got to deal with that,but you can improve how you feel
and often eradicate things. Youknow, people that have had acid
reflux for years or constipatedtheir entire lives, all of a
sudden, going to the bathroomseveral times a day, or at least
once a day. No acid refluxanymore, or whatever it might

(01:23:04):
be, food is powerful andstrategic. Nutrition is
powerful, and there's a hugedifference between healthy
eating, just eating all thethings on the Healthy Foods
List, and being strategic,meaning eating foods in a way
that's right for your body, andthat there's a world of
difference. And when you starteating strategically for your
body and your needs, your bodystarts responding, and it is

(01:23:29):
spectacular. And that is why wedo everything live, so that we
can help you figure that out.Now, some people, they start
flying in the first week. Otherpeople, we got to do a bit of
trial and error and back andforth and help figuring it out.
And then all of a sudden, oh mygoodness, we find, you know, the
pieces, and it's quiteexhilarating. So
okay, and I know somebody outthere who's listening, who's an
athlete, is saying, Can she helpme as an athlete as well?

(01:23:51):
Oh, of course, of course. Yeah,no. I mean, look, that's, that
is the thing. I mean, we spoketo you about this, didn't we,
Karen, is that a lot ofathletes, they're really, really
motivated, and they've got theirroutines down, but they may not
be nourishing themselves foreach particular workout, because
the way that you would choose tonourish yourself for a 10 mile
bike ride is very different thana Pilates session or a swim
session, and then what you eatafter the workout, and then what

(01:24:14):
you eat during the week whenyou're not working out. You
know, we all think that thestrength happens during the
workout, we're actually tearingthe muscles down, and the
regeneration and the strengthbuilding happens after the
workout. So we just feel, youknow, we find that a lot of
athletes just aren't fueling andnourishing their bodies
adequately in order to supportall the wonderful work that

(01:24:34):
they're doing. You know, fromworking out to, yeah, we have a
lot of triathletes and athletesand people, you know, we have
people of all works of life. Soagain, that's why it has to be
tailored to each person. Becausesomebody who's, you know, 60 and
sedentary working on thecomputer all day compared to an
athlete, what you're going toneed is different. So yeah,
we've got to completelycustomize it to each person.

(01:24:57):
All right, I could talk to youlike all day, and. And I have
all these questions I still wantto ask you, but here's the same
Is there anything I didn't askyou that you wish I did? Or is
there anything that's on yourhat that you feel like you still
just want to say or share, andyou can totally take a moment if
you
Oh, thank you for asking methat, that you are in control.

(01:25:25):
You're in control of whathappens to your body. You know,
yes, there we get diseases. Yes,there's things we're born with
in genetic predispositions andso forth. But for the most part,
you can control how you feel,and even if you have a disorder
or a health condition, you canfeel better with

(01:25:45):
it. And this is the emotionalthat
is absolutely true. You know,for women going through
menopause is I don't have anymenopause symptoms because I've
really got my nutrition and myhormones dialed in. And I, you
know, we help people on HRT ornot? HRT, that's a personal
decision to be discussed withyour practitioner. So you know,

(01:26:06):
whether you're on a GLP, onemedication or not, we help both
kinds of people, you know. Soyou there are so many things
that you can do, and food is infood and lifestyle choices are
so powerful. And so you know, ifyou're sitting listening to this
thinking, Oh, I'm one of thosepeople, and I'm too far gone,
you're not. You're absolutelynot. And it just, how do we eat

(01:26:29):
the whale, one bite at a time?So it's just, we make one
choice, then we make anotherone, then we make another one.
We don't eat the whole whale. Wemay decide we don't like that
particular whale. We want onelittle bite and go, Okay, I want
to eat a bit more of that, youknow. Or we might just like we
want to go over there and eatthat whale, you know. So we just
do it step by step by step. Imean that really, that would be

(01:26:50):
the thing I would close with.Is, in our the mantra in our
community is good, better orbest, not perfect. So we're not
aiming for perfection. We'rejust aiming to make the next
choice. I used to say the nextbetter choice, but now I just
say the next choice, becausegoing back to Nelson Mandela, if

(01:27:12):
we if we never lose, we eitherwin or we learn, every choice
serves us. So just make a choiceand then look at what you're
going to learn from it, period,and just have fun.
Well, look, I hope a bunch ofpeople make a choice to join
your programs, because I knowthey are life changing. I've
seen the testimonials. I've beenthrough the program. I know what

(01:27:33):
people are sharing. I've heardthem on the calls, getting
emotional and writing in thegroup. This is the first time
ever that, and it's like, oh mygod, like, you can't help but
get like, wicked
excited. So it's an honor to bea part of
that, for sure. I mean, yeah, Imean all of the best of you,
like all of your skill sets andthe way your brain works and

(01:27:55):
your acting and like all theparts of you have come to create
and serve this community in sucha beautiful way, and you are
making an impact, and you aremaking a difference, I would
even go so as far to say is, notonly are you saving lives, you
are you are helping people shiftthe qualities of how they feel
in their lives, which affectshow you parent, how you love,

(01:28:16):
how you show up in yourbusiness, how you show up in
your relationships and yourmarriages. It's not just food,
you guys, this is a wholeexponential like all areas of
your life, physical, mental,emotional and spiritual are
affected by what we are puttingin our bodies and how we're
thinking about things, and thatsupport in that community. It's
like your parents giving youthat safe place as a child like

(01:28:38):
you matter. You're kind ofrecreating that now for so many
adults, like little kids inadult bodies who didn't get
their hands held, and you'recreating a really beautiful
healing community. And I hopeyou really like get that.
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, itwe we have a beautiful community
of incredible people, andeverybody just celebrates and

(01:29:01):
elevates each other, and it'sextraordinary. It's an honor to
be a part of it. And so thankyou. You're part of that
community now too, and thank youfor the work that you're doing.
There's so much synergy. And Iremember the first time we
spoke, we spoke for four and ahalf hours, and we just
couldn't, Me too. Me too. Oh mygoodness. I mean, it was like,
you know, I'd met a soul mate.It was extraordinary. So I feel

(01:29:22):
so honored to be on yourpodcast. I know how picky you
are, so thank you for giving methis time. I loved it.
I loved it, and I love you. Andwill you please just tell folks
in your own in your own voice, Iwant to make sure they're going
to the right places. I have allyour links, but will you just
tell them how to find you, howto join the program and like all
that,
yeah, you can go to skinnysixty.com at skinny and then six

(01:29:44):
zero.com you can go to theblender girl, if you just want
some yummy, delicious, easyrecipes. And if you Yeah,
anything's at test masters.comso I've got a bunch of different
websites. I love to createwebsites. You know that, yeah, I
know you're holding up the book.You're so beautiful. Yeah, you
can get the blender girl. Theblender girl. Smoothies or the
perfect blend on Amazon,anywhere books are sold, and
then it's just fun. I mean, comeon, isn't just eating yummy food

(01:30:06):
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