In this special re-airing, I’m bringing you my powerful conversation from Mind Pump – the #1 fitness podcast in the world. This episode was originally recorded for their show, but it was too impactful not to share here with The Next Level community.
We go deep into my story—how I went from rock bottom in addiction to building a life rooted in purpose, health, and service. I open up about the darkest chapters of my past, the moment everything changed, and the work it took (and still takes) to stay on the path of growth and integrity.
We also dive into the current state of the health and fitness industry—where it’s headed, what’s broken, and what truly works when it comes to transformation. This isn’t just about macros or workouts. It’s about coaching people to rise to their full potential—physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Whether you’re a coach, someone on your own transformation journey, or just love raw, real conversations—you’re going to feel this one.
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Episode Timestamps
00:00 "Transformation Through Diet and Discovery"
06:33 Smuggling Steroids from Mexico
14:00 "Functioning Addict's Job Journey"
17:56 Relapse and Recovery Struggles
23:36 "Danger of Relapse Realization"
28:53 Descent Into Drug-Induced Paranoia
32:11 Car Vomit and Funeral Delay
37:02 "Rock Bottom and Recovery"
43:11 Overcoming Addiction to Launch Business
50:13 "Sharing My Journey of Hope"
56:09 Sobriety: Path to Self-Discovery?
01:01:29 Gym Judgement While Hiding Addiction
01:07:24 Zoom Coaching Enhances Client Connection
01:12:37 Balancing Family, Self, and Health
01:16:00 Overcoming Addiction: A Personal Reflection
01:20:14 "Alcoholism: The Socially Accepted Struggle"
01:24:14 "Content Creation: Embracing Criticism"
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