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July 21, 2025 52 mins

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Chronic pain isn’t just about injury, it’s a whole-body experience shaped by your brain, nervous system, and unresolved trauma. In this episode of Trauma Rewired, Elisabeth Kristof and Jennifer Wallace are joined by Matt Bush, educator and founder of Next Level Neuro, to unpack the neuroscience of pain. Together, they explore how chronic pain is often a protective output from a dysregulated nervous system, not a sign of damage, but of danger.

Through stories, science, and powerful reframes, you’ll learn why pain persists even when tissue damage has healed, and how complex trauma and emotional suppression play a major role. The conversation covers neurotags, interoception, perfectionism, dissociation, and the tools needed to rewire the brain’s pain pathways — offering hope for those living in pain and practitioners looking for deeper healing frameworks.

This is a must-watch for anyone who experiences chronic pain, works with trauma, or wants to understand the body’s hidden survival strategies.

Topics discussed in this episode:

  • Why chronic pain is an output, not just a symptom

  • The neuroscience of pain: neurotags, predictions, and protection

  • How trauma wires the brain for pain

  • Why people with high ACE scores are more likely to develop chronic pain

  • The link between dissociation, perfectionism, and pain

  • Emotional repression as a driver of chronic pain

  • What interoception tells us about the pain loop

  • Central sensitization and why the brain gets “louder” over time

  • The connection between complex PTSD and somatic symptoms

  • Why emotional expression is key to nervous system healing

  • How somatic work, movement, and neuro tools can rewire pain pathways

  • Why chronic pain relief is possible — but multifactorial

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