September 25, 2024 • 39 mins
Dr. Scott Blossom discusses Ayurveda and traditional Chinese Medicine
Dr. Scott Blossom has integrated Traditional Chinese (TCM), Ayurveda, Yoga somatics, and evidence based nutrition into his clinical practice and educational offerings for more than 25 years. Experience has taught him that the one secret to health is not a what, not a product or a specific practice, but how to adapt whatever you are doing so it remains potent and agile through the days and seasons of your life.www.doctorblossom.com
Host Bonnie Burkert melds the worlds of media and higher consciousness, sharing tools for transformation to find our highest truth and live our brightest life. https://www.instagram.com/yogi_bon/
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Dr. Scott Blossom has integrated Traditional Chinese (TCM), Ayurveda, Yoga somatics, and evidence based nutrition into his clinical practice and educational offerings for more than 25 years. Experience has taught him that the one secret to health is not a what, not a product or a specific practice, but how to adapt whatever you are doing so it remains potent and agile through the days and seasons of your life.www.doctorblossom.com
Host Bonnie Burkert melds the worlds of media and higher consciousness, sharing tools for transformation to find our highest truth and live our brightest life. https://www.instagram.com/yogi_bon/
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-be-told-paranormal--3589860/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is Truth Be Told Transformation, and I'm Bonnie Burkert
here to share tools for transformation to live your highest truth.
A lot of times on the show we talk kind
of more in the mind, spirit, realm and how that
affects body. But today we're going to flip the script
and go a bit more taking care of our body
(00:34):
and then how that affects our mind and spirit. So
to that effect, it is my true pleasure to welcome
Scott Blossom to the show. Hi, Scott, thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you. Tell us where you're dialing in from.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I am in Berkeley, California right now, sitting in the
place where I try to do as much work as
I can outdoors.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's fantastic. And the speaking of that, we'll mention how
I got to know about Scott was because he is
going to be at Baktyfest twenty twenty four and that
you'll be teaching outdoors there at that workshop also, right, Scott.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Absolutely, Yeah, We're going to have a morning We're doing
a sunrise land blessing and class about the Remayana, and
then I'm also going to be doing a class on
men's health.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Fantastic. I'm going to stay with that for a minute
because I'm really interested in the land blessing part of it.
So is that specific to Joshua Tree or is this
something that you find yourself doing and how does that
fit in with who you are and you know, how
you came to be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, that's a great way to frame that question. And
so the simple answer around Bucktyfest is that we I
have some dear friends who are indigenous to that area
who came last year from an organization called the Red
Earth Movement, and they they offered the very first land
(02:04):
acknowledgment in the history of Bucktifest and we went right
at sunrise on one in the mornings and it was
incredibly beautiful.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So we're keeping the tradition.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Going mina row and I organize that together and so
we're going to keep going this year with that tradition.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wow, that's amazing, And that's something on the program that
people can check out right at Baktyfest dot com to
make sure that they can find you in the early.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Hours Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They're not Saturday morning. Okay, I'm making note, you know,
don't stay up too late on Friday night. Or just
keep going on Friday night. So I'm in place. Well,
I want to just I know we're talking about Ari
e Veda and traditional Chinese medicine, but I just want
to say I love that you're tapping into the land
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of Joshua Tree because I've had a chance to go
up there for multiple events. In fact, the reason I'm
doing my show is because in addition to box defest,
I would do contact in the desert, which took place
in Joshua Tree for a long long time. So sacred grounds.
And I'm learning about you right now. You work very holistically,
so I love that you incorporate certainly reverence for nature.
(03:16):
And let's talk about that early morning Let's talk about
that early morning practice because I think for me, as
I have an understanding, I'm going to say, specifically to
Ari Eveda, it's knowing the sort of rhythms of the day, month,
years of our life. So why don't we use that
as a launching point to do a little introduction to
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our Eveda And I titled the show balancing, you know,
finding balance, So please give us some hints, give us
some tools for transformation.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's fair my pleasure. Yeah, you know, I think a
beautiful way to tie that in is that when you
honor the land as a being, you are engaging in
fundamentally amis practice. And this is something that is you know,
it's something cross culturally and indigenous cultures around the world
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has always been that that same understanding, and so ayr
Veda while it has, you know, it has adapted and
it's become integrated into you could say, modern us life
with some of the viewpoints and some of the perspectives
that are not animest or actually and sometimes actively against animism,
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actually is fundamentally based in this understanding that what we
view in the natural world has also an expression in
the microcosm internally. So when you're praising the land, when
you're blessing the land, when you're recognizing the ancestors of
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a place that are both human and more than human ancestors,
it's a two way reciprocal process of really setting up
what from the Iravaic perspective, would be probably the most
important basis for your health.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, that's amazing, yeah and very deep. Let me ask
you what you just said about the animus, right, and
maybe that ari Euveda does not ascribe to that can
you can you talk a little bit more about that
that belief system.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, it's similar to traditional Chinese medicine, early aerobatic medicine
had a very strong quality of Shawnmanism and it still
does actually in the cultural setting in India, those things
still exist in the way that coming to the West,
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being interpreted by the West, those things were more more suspicious,
more were kind of systematically either minimized or eliminated from
the way it was presented. And so the so it
kind of feels like to me that as you start
to honor the ecology of the body, you will naturally
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start to honor the outer ecollege differently. And that when,
especially if you hang around sort of ritual traditions in India,
you can see the five elements being invoked in the
spiritual level of acknowledgment as opposed to something that's just
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associated with your bodily health or with your mind. Because
the five elements are categories that help to describe the
qualities of our experience, you know, from all of our
personal experiences, but everything that we perceive that's external to
us too.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's that's great. So what are what are some
examples of the I want to, and just in case
people don't know about Ariveda, I thought maybe we could
talk a little bit about the elements and how they
relate to our Eveda medicine or wellness. I mean, first
(07:06):
of all, are Eveda science of life, right, I mean
we talked a little bit about this on my previous
episode as a matter of fact. So let's so we
did did touch on that. But as far as you,
I mean, you are a doctor, your medical doctor, right,
so this is you're helping people understand sort of the
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actual practice and from a health standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You know, A simple way, especially coming in through the
lens of medicine, to orient for that is that aire
Veda is fundamentally an allopathic medicine. And what I mean
by that is that if something's hot, you will cool
it down. It's something's dry, you will moisten it, et cetera,
et cetera. And so when you look through the lens
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of the five elements, people, as we all know, everybody's unique.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They have their.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Constitutional tendencies towards balance or imbalance. And so as you
get to know yourself, or if you come to somebody
like me who helps you to see yourself through the
lens of aier beta. One of the things you start
to understand is if I have, say, more of a
predominance of air and fire in my constitution, then it's
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going to be very important the way I work with
earth and water to strike a balance in the tendencies
that I have and the behaviors that I have and
the foods that I eat, And the way you can
construct my sleep scheduling, my exercise schedule, and my work schedule,
and you know it's really it's you know, the list
is endless.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Actually it's great. Well, I'm glad you're bringing up examples
of both because what I have in here, or what
I can dissect from what you just said, given that
it's a personal passion of mine that I like to study,
is there's an opportunity to work with both diet as
well as lifestyle, so the chemistry of our body, but
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also so than the environment that we put ourselves in.
So we just had a major heat wave in Los Angeles,
and we can use this as an example. Even though
a lot of people are moving into fall, and we
could talk about that, but I mean, I'm going to
go back to some you know, some of the basics
and ask you some some of the things we can do.
But I know, you know, back to the heat wave
part of this top you know mention that I'm making
(09:21):
is that I was I could tell I was very overheated,
and I'm pretty you know, I think maybe I have
a little tendency towards, you know, being a little fiery anyway,
like pretty much strong constitution can eat anything. But I
noticed that I was suddenly like coffee. I don't even
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have that much caffeine, but when I did have caffeine,
it was really not working for me during these hot times.
And so it was really it was really really great
to catch myself before things got really bad, because I
was irritated and I was having trouble focusing at work.
I was like, I think yourrit ability would be the
biggest one. So I'm here to tell the listeners. I mean,
(10:04):
it's amazing what one can do if you just identify
that in yourself and just say, okay, what's going on
and look inside, but also understand the outside environment too.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And that's such a beautiful story about recognizing how context
is everything. You know, it's a heat wave an La.
You're a fiery person, and now you're even noticing that
certain foods that may regularly be enjoyable for you are
actually now starting to be clearly something that's not settling
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well with you. And so you're looking at the way
that you're in relationship and your inner world is being
influenced by things.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Outside of you.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And if you pay attention over time, especially with the
beautiful lens like are Veda and the five Elements, you
start to.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Be able to understand, oh, this is.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That, you know, exception to the rule where normally I
might enjoy something like confide, but it's not working right now.
So I'm going to back away from that until the
circumstances changed internally and externally and it seems more appropriate again.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, it's it's really great. I love it. I've I certainly.
I mean, I think it's a secret to my wellness
in my body, and so I really want people to
understand this and maybe demystify it for people a little
bit so that they can explore it. There's some pretty
simple ways of just understanding the qualities of food and
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just paying attention and so much of it, you know,
coming back to the earth yeah, it's seasonal. I mean
it's also seasonal. So we're going into the fall, which
can start off certainly, it cools down, it can be drier,
right fall we attribute more dryness to to autumn, the
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autumn season correct, and so depending on who you are are,
there's different things that are going to make sense. And
what's great about this, Scott is when I first you know,
it's funny. I first learned about it from a very basic,
simple book by Deepak Chopra back, you know, many many
years ago, when I think it was really oh yeah, right, okay,
(12:18):
so perfect Health and one of my favor most favorite books,
and it was so What I loved about it it
was it wasn't saying that you have to add in
all these exotic herbs that I was going to be
intimidated by, and it wasn't necessarily saying don't do this,
but it was kind of confirming things that we knew already.
(12:39):
Quick examples. It's hot, it's okay to eat something cooling
like ice cream, Like, don't eat ice cream in the
winter it's cold and damp out and you're not you
don't want to put something cold and wet in your
body during the cold and wet winter, so it was
so aha for me.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think it said something about in the fall, for example,
you know, it's okay to have that warm cobbler or something.
So I'm like, I like this science very much, right,
So tell me a little bit of your initial responses
to it and how you came to it. I was
studying yoga, and I'm not sure how I came to
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that exactly, other than it is very complimentary, as I
sort of took my yoga practice off the mat.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I have a degree from you see, Santa Craz have
a biology degree from you see Santa Cruz in California,
and I was starting to practice yoga and I and
then I learned that there was this science from doctor
vossent Lad actually that there was this science and I
had read Perfect Health, and I got so turned on
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by the idea that there was this extension of the
way to regulate myself internally with yoga and meditation that
extended into all of the choices I was making around
you know, self care and supporting my own health. And
you know, my studies were really rigorous, and so it
was a very simple thing for me that I just
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felt better and I was able to focus better and
study and and you know, be engaged in all of that.
But that was that was really the beginning, and it
was he was what turned me on to him so
much as he was talking about integrative medicine. And I
actually came pretty much straight out of school and started
working with the cancer center in Santa Barbara and the
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hospital in Santa Barbara to help bring in yoga, to
bring in acucuncture too, and that's you know, the organization
that that that sort of spawn still still exists, but
it was it was a big aha for me because
I thought I would go, you know, just straight western
and it and then it was very clear that I
was benefiting so much from like you're saying, like, oh
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the fall, Look the bounty of root vegetables and the
seeds and the fruits that are here, and like you're saying,
like baking apples, and you know these are making apples sauce.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know, those kinds of things are pairs.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Was it just was so intuitive and I had never
encountered anything in my growing up here in California that
it was like it. And not only did it fascinate me,
it felt great, you know, and I think that's the
thing that probably kept me coming back.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, that fantastic. No, I love that for sharing it.
I'm sitting here thinking of all these other examples of
you know, just times that I've you know, I wasn't
feeling well and I sort of had a little self
check on how I could maybe rebalance certain things. Yeah,
before I had to reach for you know, even pain
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relievers that's right, you know what I mean, or worse
you know, or something you know, something stronger too, you know,
tombs for the tummy or something like that. It's like,
there's ways that we can do this. And so let's
you mentioned Chinese, so we'll kind of crisscross back and
forth between the two and can can I go back
to your understanding of sort of the history, what do
(16:10):
you which came first? Do you think do you think
the Ari Euveda existed? Were they simultaneous? And we're talking
thousands of years right ago?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So yeah, along those lines, it's hard to say I would.
I'm not going to go on record with any heart
you know, strong opinions because.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
They both did.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
They have a lot of similarities in the way that
there's you know, China's a huge place.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
India is a big place.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They have a lot of really varied micro climates, and
so what you would find is that in each place
you'd have these you know, villages and groups of people,
and they would learn to use the local plants to
nourish themselves and to heal themselves, as well as the
minerals and as well as you know, the other the
other substances that were there. But so it kind of
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in some ways, it wasn't until really in the in
the CE period that it started being canonized, you know,
it started to be put together in a way that
they say, this is a something that you could call
a medicine because there were so many branches of it.
And it's mainly because again all both traditional Chinese and
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medicine and Iraveda are chitextual at their core. So they
never they never you never ask a Chinese doctor or
an Aravedic doctor, you know, what's a good herb for asthma?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And there's a Christian mataria.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That great Yogi, you know, his answer when people would
ask in things like that was who's asthma? You know,
he would always just say who's asthma? Like what do
you it has to be for that person living in
that place with that particular configuration to have that condition
result in a breathing condition. And this is what's really
fascinating to me and something I'm really interesting it in
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as the microbion because it's starting to explain why one
person can manifest a symptom that has a name, and
another person can have the same symptom with the same name,
but they have an entirely different set of conditions that
are creating that that condition. And that's why you need
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different medicine and you need to approach them individually.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Without naming names. I think we had a fairly good
example of that about four years ago. Right as far
as needing to treat the individual, I love that if
dear listeners, if you take nothing else away from this
conversation than that, it is that that healing, the healing
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process is not a one size fits all, so understand
and that's why these practices that we're talking about with
doctor Scott is really I think some self awareness, right
the different tools for self awareness that we can better
treat ourselves. And I do think that, and we're not
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going to go too down far down the path of yoga,
the actual like asana practice of yoga. But I think
maybe it's for some it might start there, yeah, right, certainly, breath, Yeah,
calming down, tuning in. Yes, we want you to meditate. Yes,
I know I should probably do better than I do
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at that myself. But even that, any kind of quietude
that you can find, or that time where you can
get into neutral and listen to what your body needs,
what your body really wants, like what's going on. I
don't feel good?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And you could be maybe I feel tired, or I
feel I have a bit of a headache. I don't listen.
Are you thirsty? Maybe? I mean, how often does that
come into play?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Right? Yeah? Simple.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's interesting what you're saying, because the yoga tradition, when
you look at the pillars of what supports yoga practice,
there's a couple of terms which are a heart chikitsa
and vhar chikitsa, which essentially translate as diet and lifestyle.
So in the heart of the foundations of what supports
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yoga practices are veda so that the body has the
health to go through the process of the inquiry of
yoga practices and then simultaneously the yoga. The yoga practice
is what starts to reveal the subtle spiritual truths that
are that are resonant with what you would learn from
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understanding the ironbatic worldview, like, for example, that there is
this level within ourselves that we have some influence on
with our thoughts, our breathing, our dietary choices, et cetera.
But there's also this larger world of relationships that include
social and then macro geological relationships that you are that
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your alignment will have a very big impact on the
kind of insight and the kind of evolution that's possible
for you.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, Okay, alignment, good word. So I study Kundalini yoga
and one of the things I really like about it
is working with energy, with the flow of energy in
our bodies.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And so I'm segueing back to Chinese medicine. I started
to I got sidetracked, but I was sharing before our call.
I was sharing with Scott that I get acupuncture all
the time, like at least twice a month, and I
can go in and there's always I like to say,
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there's always something to work on. And I'm going to
ask you to tell us how it works. I mean,
for myself, I'm just going to say I feel it
is tapping into healing energy flow within my body. Now
it can be more specific than that, but I'll let
you kind of give us, you know, your interpretation specifically,
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you know how it can cure certain ailments and more generally,
how is it working our circuitry.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, the Chinese system I've practiced, have been licensed to
practice traditional Chinese medicine for more than twenty five years,
and I get deeper and deeper respect for it every
day of practice because the insight that they have about
things for translating something that you're talking about, like chi
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into the level of physical healing where the person can
come out and say, yeah, I feel my back feels
a lot better from that treatment, or my you know,
cough resolved very quickly, My chronic cough started to resolve
resolve completely, very quickly. Is that the basis for that
from that system is identical to the idea of prana
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and the Yogic system, which is that the chi is deep,
it is the mother to the physical, it's the subtle,
is the foundational to the physical. So when you adjust that,
you're adjusting at a.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
More root level in the body.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And that there's some really interesting theories about how acupuncture
actually works from a biological perspective, and I think it's
an interesting exercise and one of the things that somehow
they figured this out. I have no idea how they
did this, but they understood that they could use a
needle on a person's hand or foot or their leg
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or arm, and that they would be able to communicate
directly to an organ.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And so now there.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is the research about what seems to be happening is
that a system called the pro reacceptive system, which is
basically your it's your surveillance system of your whole body,
all your organs. Is that the acupuncture will trigger a
heightened focus of the body's healings energies in certain areas,
and that you don't have to go straight to the
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thing you're trying to heal. You can actually work with
distal points on the limbs, for example, to heighten the
circulation and the production of internal you know, pain killers
or wound healers or regenerative you know, molecules that the
body makes itself from its own internal pharmacy.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And that this this is for me because I have it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I love it when things kind of land from more
esoteric into the biological too. That that's one way that
I describe it. And it's still a miracle to me
in the practice, like day in and day out. I
know that it works because I use it every day,
but I still it's just it's incredible to watch how
somehow that intelligen gent was perceived and the people that
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founded that, they were all meditators, they were all dallistimistics basically.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, oh indeed. I mean I'm just getting goosebumps thinking
about it and talking to somebody who you know, has
been doing this. The fact that you're saying it is
miraculous to you, even after twenty five years of practice,
you know that you're still wowed by it. I mean,
I couldn't agree more. And I again will remind people
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we're talking tools for transformation. There's many, many options. I
actually go to an acupuncture school that has students that
need patients. I just wherever your listening, I want you
to know there's many, many options. But ideally, if you're
in the Bay area, I think that you should look
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up doctor Scott because it sounds like it would be
an incredible opportunity to work with somebody who really understands
this holistically and certainly cross discipline as far as understanding
are e Veda as well as the traditional Chinese medicine,
and there's just such a vast, vast encyclopedia of herbs. Scott,
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how how tell us a little bit about your your
thoughts the distinctions between are uvetic herbs and the herbs
in the in the you know, in the treasure trove
of the traditional Chinese medicine.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, there's actually quite a bit of overlap between the
two systems because of the territory where the homelands, you know,
where those countries exist. So there is there's a lot
of overlap in the herbal pharmacopeia between the two. But
then there's also very specific, you know, and unique herbs
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in each tradition. And I think one way to kind
of or to frame this is that in our Veda
they say anything can be food and anything can be poisoned.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And the difference is that what food is something you.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Can digest, and what herbs do essentially is they support
your capacity to digest, so then you can turn your
life not just the foods you're eating by mouth, but
the air you're breathing, the liquids as well as your
emotions into something that's digestible for you, and that that's
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what's critical to healing, is that you're actually getting the
digestive fire supported as the central piece. And then all
the little subtleties and details of what a person's particular
condition is are at some level being adjusted from the
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basis of cellular metabolism and also macrodigestion as in the stomach,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Excellent, Okay, So in Chinese medicine, I think a lot
of times people I'm just going to go sort of
mainstream ish on something that I think people might have
heard about Chinese medicine, and that is their use of
animal products as some of their herbs and I don't
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know if you'd call them herbs at that point, but
in their system of medicine. So I remember one time
I was having I forget what I was trying to clear.
Maybe it might have been a cough or whatever, it
doesn't matter what it was. But the practitioner who was
not necessarily license in Chinese medicine but knowledgeable herbalist, he
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is prescribed dear antler velvet capsules for me, and I
think that it helped me. I mean some they would
I guess that would probably not be Vegan.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, it's it's they do collect those effort. They've fallen off,
so there's no animals they have to you know, suffer
for them to get it, right, not Vegan, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I mean I did I think
twice about taking it, Not necessarily. I was curious, and
I will tell you I got better, So I think
I was taking a few other things. I'm not one
hundred percent sure. I can't remember. It's been a couple
of years. Actually this happened at Bocyfest, So if if
you're going to Boccyfest, don't doubt the healers there that
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can help you. So now two questions. One do they
have different you know healing? What are we calling that
remedies like that? In are you veda? And then two,
what's your thought about these and how prevalent are they
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in Chinese medicine because we don't want animals to get harmed.
I mean there's some that we're really concerned about.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Right, Yes, exactly, Rhino, you mean to really that is
a really key difference where in Iaretic medicine there there
is a precedence for the use of animal products, but
it's it's more it's much smaller in the aggregate and
especially the way that it's practiced in the West, where
(30:23):
the emphasis is more on mineral and plant medicines and airaveta.
In traditional Chinese medicine, it'll be mineral plant and there
are a lot of insects, animal products, you know, these
kinds of things that get incorporated into the medicine. And
it's something for me that I get to steer around
(30:45):
it basically. You know, it's like you can see whether
it's in a formula or not. And then just as
a rule, because of my own ethics and values, I'm
not going to trust that it's all ethical, you know too,
those elements and things, but it is. Yeah, the Chinese,
the traditional Chinese meta system system is more relies more
(31:07):
heavily on on animal and other living being type of
ingredients in their formulas.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean it's so ancient. Maybe back
back in the day there were there were more rhinos
than there are now, so lead the rhinos alone, there's
other ways to take care of ourselves. Do you know
what that actually is supposed to do, is it's sort
of what.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Is actually Yeah, so that in the case it's in
the case of the of the rhino horn, it was
actually used for like deadly fevers. It's one of the
reasons they valued it so much is that it could
be a lifesaver. But I agree that, you know, it's yeah,
it's it's sickening to think about, especially the people that
will go for say longevity or super health at any cost,
(31:56):
and they just have this, you know, this kind of
attitude that you know, they're entitled to some very you know,
rare and endangered animals hearts to get there.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, well, I appreciate your point of view. And never
for you know, never for a minute would I have
thought that that was even something that I don't know
any kind of any practitioner in the US would probably
be supporting at this point, right. I mean, it's it's
time to evolve. And you know, I think that's an
interesting question, Scott, because you've been doing this for twenty
(32:33):
five years. You say, and how do you see people
are doing I mean, I think there's more awareness for
are you veda and traditional Chinese medicine in the press decades.
And yet at the same time, are we doing more
things or our environment that much more toxic to ourselves?
(32:54):
So how are we doing? I mean, one people are
taking to it. Two maybe we're doing things that are
bad for ourselves. So just kind of I always like
to ask the question, how are we doing?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's I know. I feel like, especially since
the pandemic, there has been such a clear and bright,
hopeful evolutionary trajectory that a lot of people are moving towards.
(33:26):
So there's a lot to you know, that I take
heart from. Including for me, something that's very powerful is
the merging of social justice movements and healing movements, where
the argument about self care being in service to the
world you want to live in is actually and the
(33:47):
way that your psycho spiritual evolution is tied into your health,
but with a real emphasis on evolving the way that
we do things. So I feel like there's a lot
of hope. And simultaneously, the breakdown of natural systems from
(34:08):
pollution and from exploitation is making it it is making
it harder to stay well. In fact, I heard something
just recently too, and it struck me the way they
framed it, which is because of the global warming that
heat waves are actually, out of all the natural disasters,
heat waves can be the most dangerous.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
They're the most debilitating.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
For humans, and that as that becomes more common, it's
you know, it's it's very hard to stay healthy when
you're going through extreme weather experiences for example, and just
those kind of things make it so that something like
yoga and ariveda and learning to really utilize them. One
(34:53):
of the goals is to make you have better internal
integration so that your stability is strong, younger in the
face of adversity. And so as the intensity of these
waves and the pollution of the natural environment and the
food supply, you know, increases, the only way through is
(35:14):
to at some level really refine your own internal balance
at some level.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Excellent, Thank you very much, Scott. You work with people individually,
as mentioned up in northern California. Tell us your website
please if you would, please.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Sure it's My website is www doctor Blossom dot com.
D O C.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
T O. R. B.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
L oss O N fantastic And I know that you're
doing courses online, courses with people, and there's lots of
different ways to work with doctor Scott and thank you.
This is a fascinating conversation. I could go deeply down
the rabbit hole of all my favorite topics of things
I've learned and bounce them off of you. I appreciate
(35:59):
you kind of indulging me in my personal fascination in this,
and truly I will end with you on this like again,
what comes sort of how we began? What comes first?
Healthy body? And we can get to that piece that
the peace in our mind? Or do we by having
(36:21):
clarity in our mind, can we then inform our body
how to get there and make good choices? I mean,
I guess it's both. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, it is both, And I'll just you know, stick
with Ira Vada to say that the tissues and the
balance of the tissues is literally the home for the mind,
and so the way you work with the tissues has
a profound, profound impact on the stability of the mind,
and that somebody who has cultivated really excellent meditative awareness
(36:56):
can weather illness better than somebody who hasn't. But if
somebody's body is not sound, it will really be challenging
usually for them, both mentally and emotionally, and so I
come down more on the side of almost a developmental
look too, to say, with children, you don't start them
with meditation, you start.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Them with mother's mob and you start them with bad food.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Excellent, all right, this is really great. That could almost
be its own show right there, but we have to
come to Bockyfest and to learn more. So thank you
again doctor Blossom dot com. Once again, see you very
soon in the desert. And you know, thanks again for
your time. This has been fascinating.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
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(38:02):
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It's on the screen right there.
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Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is Truth Be Told Transformation, and I'm Bonnie Burkert
here to share tools for transformation to live your highest truth.
A lot of times on the show we talk kind
of more in the mind, spirit, realm and how that
affects body. But today we're going to flip the script
and go a bit more taking care of our body
(00:34):
and then how that affects our mind and spirit. So
to that effect, it is my true pleasure to welcome
Scott Blossom to the show. Hi, Scott, thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you. Tell us where you're dialing in from.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I am in Berkeley, California right now, sitting in the
place where I try to do as much work as
I can outdoors.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's fantastic. And the speaking of that, we'll mention how
I got to know about Scott was because he is
going to be at Baktyfest twenty twenty four and that
you'll be teaching outdoors there at that workshop also, right, Scott.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Absolutely, Yeah, We're going to have a morning We're doing
a sunrise land blessing and class about the Remayana, and
then I'm also going to be doing a class on
men's health.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Fantastic. I'm going to stay with that for a minute
because I'm really interested in the land blessing part of it.
So is that specific to Joshua Tree or is this
something that you find yourself doing and how does that
fit in with who you are and you know, how
you came to be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, that's a great way to frame that question. And
so the simple answer around Bucktyfest is that we I
have some dear friends who are indigenous to that area
who came last year from an organization called the Red
Earth Movement, and they they offered the very first land
(02:04):
acknowledgment in the history of Bucktifest and we went right
at sunrise on one in the mornings and it was
incredibly beautiful.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So we're keeping the tradition.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Going mina row and I organize that together and so
we're going to keep going this year with that tradition.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wow, that's amazing, And that's something on the program that
people can check out right at Baktyfest dot com to
make sure that they can find you in the early.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Hours Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They're not Saturday morning. Okay, I'm making note, you know,
don't stay up too late on Friday night. Or just
keep going on Friday night. So I'm in place. Well,
I want to just I know we're talking about Ari
e Veda and traditional Chinese medicine, but I just want
to say I love that you're tapping into the land
(02:52):
of Joshua Tree because I've had a chance to go
up there for multiple events. In fact, the reason I'm
doing my show is because in addition to box defest,
I would do contact in the desert, which took place
in Joshua Tree for a long long time. So sacred grounds.
And I'm learning about you right now. You work very holistically,
so I love that you incorporate certainly reverence for nature.
(03:16):
And let's talk about that early morning Let's talk about
that early morning practice because I think for me, as
I have an understanding, I'm going to say, specifically to
Ari Eveda, it's knowing the sort of rhythms of the day, month,
years of our life. So why don't we use that
as a launching point to do a little introduction to
(03:37):
our Eveda And I titled the show balancing, you know,
finding balance, So please give us some hints, give us
some tools for transformation.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's fair my pleasure. Yeah, you know, I think a
beautiful way to tie that in is that when you
honor the land as a being, you are engaging in
fundamentally amis practice. And this is something that is you know,
it's something cross culturally and indigenous cultures around the world
(04:08):
has always been that that same understanding, and so ayr
Veda while it has, you know, it has adapted and
it's become integrated into you could say, modern us life
with some of the viewpoints and some of the perspectives
that are not animest or actually and sometimes actively against animism,
(04:30):
actually is fundamentally based in this understanding that what we
view in the natural world has also an expression in
the microcosm internally. So when you're praising the land, when
you're blessing the land, when you're recognizing the ancestors of
(04:51):
a place that are both human and more than human ancestors,
it's a two way reciprocal process of really setting up
what from the Iravaic perspective, would be probably the most
important basis for your health.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, that's amazing, yeah and very deep. Let me ask
you what you just said about the animus, right, and
maybe that ari Euveda does not ascribe to that can
you can you talk a little bit more about that
that belief system.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, it's similar to traditional Chinese medicine, early aerobatic medicine
had a very strong quality of Shawnmanism and it still
does actually in the cultural setting in India, those things
still exist in the way that coming to the West,
(05:47):
being interpreted by the West, those things were more more suspicious,
more were kind of systematically either minimized or eliminated from
the way it was presented. And so the so it
kind of feels like to me that as you start
to honor the ecology of the body, you will naturally
(06:10):
start to honor the outer ecollege differently. And that when,
especially if you hang around sort of ritual traditions in India,
you can see the five elements being invoked in the
spiritual level of acknowledgment as opposed to something that's just
(06:31):
associated with your bodily health or with your mind. Because
the five elements are categories that help to describe the
qualities of our experience, you know, from all of our
personal experiences, but everything that we perceive that's external to
us too.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's that's great. So what are what are some
examples of the I want to, and just in case
people don't know about Ariveda, I thought maybe we could
talk a little bit about the elements and how they
relate to our Eveda medicine or wellness. I mean, first
(07:06):
of all, are Eveda science of life, right, I mean
we talked a little bit about this on my previous
episode as a matter of fact. So let's so we
did did touch on that. But as far as you,
I mean, you are a doctor, your medical doctor, right,
so this is you're helping people understand sort of the
(07:27):
actual practice and from a health standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You know, A simple way, especially coming in through the
lens of medicine, to orient for that is that aire
Veda is fundamentally an allopathic medicine. And what I mean
by that is that if something's hot, you will cool
it down. It's something's dry, you will moisten it, et cetera,
et cetera. And so when you look through the lens
(07:53):
of the five elements, people, as we all know, everybody's unique.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They have their.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Constitutional tendencies towards balance or imbalance. And so as you
get to know yourself, or if you come to somebody
like me who helps you to see yourself through the
lens of aier beta. One of the things you start
to understand is if I have, say, more of a
predominance of air and fire in my constitution, then it's
(08:18):
going to be very important the way I work with
earth and water to strike a balance in the tendencies
that I have and the behaviors that I have and
the foods that I eat, And the way you can
construct my sleep scheduling, my exercise schedule, and my work schedule,
and you know it's really it's you know, the list
is endless.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Actually it's great. Well, I'm glad you're bringing up examples
of both because what I have in here, or what
I can dissect from what you just said, given that
it's a personal passion of mine that I like to study,
is there's an opportunity to work with both diet as
well as lifestyle, so the chemistry of our body, but
(08:59):
also so than the environment that we put ourselves in.
So we just had a major heat wave in Los Angeles,
and we can use this as an example. Even though
a lot of people are moving into fall, and we
could talk about that, but I mean, I'm going to
go back to some you know, some of the basics
and ask you some some of the things we can do.
But I know, you know, back to the heat wave
part of this top you know mention that I'm making
(09:21):
is that I was I could tell I was very overheated,
and I'm pretty you know, I think maybe I have
a little tendency towards, you know, being a little fiery anyway,
like pretty much strong constitution can eat anything. But I
noticed that I was suddenly like coffee. I don't even
(09:41):
have that much caffeine, but when I did have caffeine,
it was really not working for me during these hot times.
And so it was really it was really really great
to catch myself before things got really bad, because I
was irritated and I was having trouble focusing at work.
I was like, I think yourrit ability would be the
biggest one. So I'm here to tell the listeners. I mean,
(10:04):
it's amazing what one can do if you just identify
that in yourself and just say, okay, what's going on
and look inside, but also understand the outside environment too.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And that's such a beautiful story about recognizing how context
is everything. You know, it's a heat wave an La.
You're a fiery person, and now you're even noticing that
certain foods that may regularly be enjoyable for you are
actually now starting to be clearly something that's not settling
(10:39):
well with you. And so you're looking at the way
that you're in relationship and your inner world is being
influenced by things.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Outside of you.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And if you pay attention over time, especially with the
beautiful lens like are Veda and the five Elements, you
start to.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Be able to understand, oh, this is.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That, you know, exception to the rule where normally I
might enjoy something like confide, but it's not working right now.
So I'm going to back away from that until the
circumstances changed internally and externally and it seems more appropriate again.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, it's it's really great. I love it. I've I certainly.
I mean, I think it's a secret to my wellness
in my body, and so I really want people to
understand this and maybe demystify it for people a little
bit so that they can explore it. There's some pretty
simple ways of just understanding the qualities of food and
(11:34):
just paying attention and so much of it, you know,
coming back to the earth yeah, it's seasonal. I mean
it's also seasonal. So we're going into the fall, which
can start off certainly, it cools down, it can be drier,
right fall we attribute more dryness to to autumn, the
(11:55):
autumn season correct, and so depending on who you are are,
there's different things that are going to make sense. And
what's great about this, Scott is when I first you know,
it's funny. I first learned about it from a very basic,
simple book by Deepak Chopra back, you know, many many
years ago, when I think it was really oh yeah, right, okay,
(12:18):
so perfect Health and one of my favor most favorite books,
and it was so What I loved about it it
was it wasn't saying that you have to add in
all these exotic herbs that I was going to be
intimidated by, and it wasn't necessarily saying don't do this,
but it was kind of confirming things that we knew already.
(12:39):
Quick examples. It's hot, it's okay to eat something cooling
like ice cream, Like, don't eat ice cream in the
winter it's cold and damp out and you're not you
don't want to put something cold and wet in your
body during the cold and wet winter, so it was
so aha for me.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think it said something about in the fall, for example,
you know, it's okay to have that warm cobbler or something.
So I'm like, I like this science very much, right,
So tell me a little bit of your initial responses
to it and how you came to it. I was
studying yoga, and I'm not sure how I came to
(13:22):
that exactly, other than it is very complimentary, as I
sort of took my yoga practice off the mat.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I have a degree from you see, Santa Craz have
a biology degree from you see Santa Cruz in California,
and I was starting to practice yoga and I and
then I learned that there was this science from doctor
vossent Lad actually that there was this science and I
had read Perfect Health, and I got so turned on
(13:53):
by the idea that there was this extension of the
way to regulate myself internally with yoga and meditation that
extended into all of the choices I was making around
you know, self care and supporting my own health. And
you know, my studies were really rigorous, and so it
was a very simple thing for me that I just
(14:14):
felt better and I was able to focus better and
study and and you know, be engaged in all of that.
But that was that was really the beginning, and it
was he was what turned me on to him so
much as he was talking about integrative medicine. And I
actually came pretty much straight out of school and started
working with the cancer center in Santa Barbara and the
(14:35):
hospital in Santa Barbara to help bring in yoga, to
bring in acucuncture too, and that's you know, the organization
that that that sort of spawn still still exists, but
it was it was a big aha for me because
I thought I would go, you know, just straight western
and it and then it was very clear that I
was benefiting so much from like you're saying, like, oh
(14:59):
the fall, Look the bounty of root vegetables and the
seeds and the fruits that are here, and like you're saying,
like baking apples, and you know these are making apples sauce.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know, those kinds of things are pairs.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Was it just was so intuitive and I had never
encountered anything in my growing up here in California that
it was like it. And not only did it fascinate me,
it felt great, you know, and I think that's the
thing that probably kept me coming back.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, that fantastic. No, I love that for sharing it.
I'm sitting here thinking of all these other examples of
you know, just times that I've you know, I wasn't
feeling well and I sort of had a little self
check on how I could maybe rebalance certain things. Yeah,
before I had to reach for you know, even pain
(15:47):
relievers that's right, you know what I mean, or worse
you know, or something you know, something stronger too, you know,
tombs for the tummy or something like that. It's like,
there's ways that we can do this. And so let's
you mentioned Chinese, so we'll kind of crisscross back and
forth between the two and can can I go back
to your understanding of sort of the history, what do
(16:10):
you which came first? Do you think do you think
the Ari Euveda existed? Were they simultaneous? And we're talking
thousands of years right ago?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So yeah, along those lines, it's hard to say I would.
I'm not going to go on record with any heart
you know, strong opinions because.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
They both did.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
They have a lot of similarities in the way that
there's you know, China's a huge place.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
India is a big place.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They have a lot of really varied micro climates, and
so what you would find is that in each place
you'd have these you know, villages and groups of people,
and they would learn to use the local plants to
nourish themselves and to heal themselves, as well as the
minerals and as well as you know, the other the
other substances that were there. But so it kind of
(17:02):
in some ways, it wasn't until really in the in
the CE period that it started being canonized, you know,
it started to be put together in a way that
they say, this is a something that you could call
a medicine because there were so many branches of it.
And it's mainly because again all both traditional Chinese and
(17:24):
medicine and Iraveda are chitextual at their core. So they
never they never you never ask a Chinese doctor or
an Aravedic doctor, you know, what's a good herb for asthma?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And there's a Christian mataria.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That great Yogi, you know, his answer when people would
ask in things like that was who's asthma? You know,
he would always just say who's asthma? Like what do
you it has to be for that person living in
that place with that particular configuration to have that condition
result in a breathing condition. And this is what's really
fascinating to me and something I'm really interesting it in
(18:00):
as the microbion because it's starting to explain why one
person can manifest a symptom that has a name, and
another person can have the same symptom with the same name,
but they have an entirely different set of conditions that
are creating that that condition. And that's why you need
(18:20):
different medicine and you need to approach them individually.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Without naming names. I think we had a fairly good
example of that about four years ago. Right as far
as needing to treat the individual, I love that if
dear listeners, if you take nothing else away from this
conversation than that, it is that that healing, the healing
(18:44):
process is not a one size fits all, so understand
and that's why these practices that we're talking about with
doctor Scott is really I think some self awareness, right
the different tools for self awareness that we can better
treat ourselves. And I do think that, and we're not
(19:08):
going to go too down far down the path of yoga,
the actual like asana practice of yoga. But I think
maybe it's for some it might start there, yeah, right, certainly, breath, Yeah,
calming down, tuning in. Yes, we want you to meditate. Yes,
I know I should probably do better than I do
(19:28):
at that myself. But even that, any kind of quietude
that you can find, or that time where you can
get into neutral and listen to what your body needs,
what your body really wants, like what's going on. I
don't feel good?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And you could be maybe I feel tired, or I
feel I have a bit of a headache. I don't listen.
Are you thirsty? Maybe? I mean, how often does that
come into play?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Right? Yeah? Simple.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's interesting what you're saying, because the yoga tradition, when
you look at the pillars of what supports yoga practice,
there's a couple of terms which are a heart chikitsa
and vhar chikitsa, which essentially translate as diet and lifestyle.
So in the heart of the foundations of what supports
(20:22):
yoga practices are veda so that the body has the
health to go through the process of the inquiry of
yoga practices and then simultaneously the yoga. The yoga practice
is what starts to reveal the subtle spiritual truths that
are that are resonant with what you would learn from
(20:45):
understanding the ironbatic worldview, like, for example, that there is
this level within ourselves that we have some influence on
with our thoughts, our breathing, our dietary choices, et cetera.
But there's also this larger world of relationships that include
social and then macro geological relationships that you are that
(21:09):
your alignment will have a very big impact on the
kind of insight and the kind of evolution that's possible
for you.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, Okay, alignment, good word. So I study Kundalini yoga
and one of the things I really like about it
is working with energy, with the flow of energy in
our bodies.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And so I'm segueing back to Chinese medicine. I started
to I got sidetracked, but I was sharing before our call.
I was sharing with Scott that I get acupuncture all
the time, like at least twice a month, and I
can go in and there's always I like to say,
(21:55):
there's always something to work on. And I'm going to
ask you to tell us how it works. I mean,
for myself, I'm just going to say I feel it
is tapping into healing energy flow within my body. Now
it can be more specific than that, but I'll let
you kind of give us, you know, your interpretation specifically,
(22:16):
you know how it can cure certain ailments and more generally,
how is it working our circuitry.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, the Chinese system I've practiced, have been licensed to
practice traditional Chinese medicine for more than twenty five years,
and I get deeper and deeper respect for it every
day of practice because the insight that they have about
things for translating something that you're talking about, like chi
(22:48):
into the level of physical healing where the person can
come out and say, yeah, I feel my back feels
a lot better from that treatment, or my you know,
cough resolved very quickly, My chronic cough started to resolve
resolve completely, very quickly. Is that the basis for that
from that system is identical to the idea of prana
(23:12):
and the Yogic system, which is that the chi is deep,
it is the mother to the physical, it's the subtle,
is the foundational to the physical. So when you adjust that,
you're adjusting at a.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
More root level in the body.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And that there's some really interesting theories about how acupuncture
actually works from a biological perspective, and I think it's
an interesting exercise and one of the things that somehow
they figured this out. I have no idea how they
did this, but they understood that they could use a
needle on a person's hand or foot or their leg
(23:49):
or arm, and that they would be able to communicate
directly to an organ.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And so now there.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is the research about what seems to be happening is
that a system called the pro reacceptive system, which is
basically your it's your surveillance system of your whole body,
all your organs. Is that the acupuncture will trigger a
heightened focus of the body's healings energies in certain areas,
and that you don't have to go straight to the
(24:16):
thing you're trying to heal. You can actually work with
distal points on the limbs, for example, to heighten the
circulation and the production of internal you know, pain killers
or wound healers or regenerative you know, molecules that the
body makes itself from its own internal pharmacy.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And that this this is for me because I have it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I love it when things kind of land from more
esoteric into the biological too. That that's one way that
I describe it. And it's still a miracle to me
in the practice, like day in and day out. I
know that it works because I use it every day,
but I still it's just it's incredible to watch how
somehow that intelligen gent was perceived and the people that
(25:02):
founded that, they were all meditators, they were all dallistimistics basically.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, oh indeed. I mean I'm just getting goosebumps thinking
about it and talking to somebody who you know, has
been doing this. The fact that you're saying it is
miraculous to you, even after twenty five years of practice,
you know that you're still wowed by it. I mean,
I couldn't agree more. And I again will remind people
(25:28):
we're talking tools for transformation. There's many, many options. I
actually go to an acupuncture school that has students that
need patients. I just wherever your listening, I want you
to know there's many, many options. But ideally, if you're
in the Bay area, I think that you should look
(25:48):
up doctor Scott because it sounds like it would be
an incredible opportunity to work with somebody who really understands
this holistically and certainly cross discipline as far as understanding
are e Veda as well as the traditional Chinese medicine,
and there's just such a vast, vast encyclopedia of herbs. Scott,
(26:11):
how how tell us a little bit about your your
thoughts the distinctions between are uvetic herbs and the herbs
in the in the you know, in the treasure trove
of the traditional Chinese medicine.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, there's actually quite a bit of overlap between the
two systems because of the territory where the homelands, you know,
where those countries exist. So there is there's a lot
of overlap in the herbal pharmacopeia between the two. But
then there's also very specific, you know, and unique herbs
(26:50):
in each tradition. And I think one way to kind
of or to frame this is that in our Veda
they say anything can be food and anything can be poisoned.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And the difference is that what food is something you.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Can digest, and what herbs do essentially is they support
your capacity to digest, so then you can turn your
life not just the foods you're eating by mouth, but
the air you're breathing, the liquids as well as your
emotions into something that's digestible for you, and that that's
(27:28):
what's critical to healing, is that you're actually getting the
digestive fire supported as the central piece. And then all
the little subtleties and details of what a person's particular
condition is are at some level being adjusted from the
(27:51):
basis of cellular metabolism and also macrodigestion as in the stomach,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Excellent, Okay, So in Chinese medicine, I think a lot
of times people I'm just going to go sort of
mainstream ish on something that I think people might have
heard about Chinese medicine, and that is their use of
animal products as some of their herbs and I don't
(28:18):
know if you'd call them herbs at that point, but
in their system of medicine. So I remember one time
I was having I forget what I was trying to clear.
Maybe it might have been a cough or whatever, it
doesn't matter what it was. But the practitioner who was
not necessarily license in Chinese medicine but knowledgeable herbalist, he
(28:43):
is prescribed dear antler velvet capsules for me, and I
think that it helped me. I mean some they would
I guess that would probably not be Vegan.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, it's it's they do collect those effort. They've fallen off,
so there's no animals they have to you know, suffer
for them to get it, right, not Vegan, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I mean I did I think
twice about taking it, Not necessarily. I was curious, and
I will tell you I got better, So I think
I was taking a few other things. I'm not one
hundred percent sure. I can't remember. It's been a couple
of years. Actually this happened at Bocyfest, So if if
you're going to Boccyfest, don't doubt the healers there that
(29:35):
can help you. So now two questions. One do they
have different you know healing? What are we calling that
remedies like that? In are you veda? And then two,
what's your thought about these and how prevalent are they
(29:55):
in Chinese medicine because we don't want animals to get harmed.
I mean there's some that we're really concerned about.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Right, Yes, exactly, Rhino, you mean to really that is
a really key difference where in Iaretic medicine there there
is a precedence for the use of animal products, but
it's it's more it's much smaller in the aggregate and
especially the way that it's practiced in the West, where
(30:23):
the emphasis is more on mineral and plant medicines and airaveta.
In traditional Chinese medicine, it'll be mineral plant and there
are a lot of insects, animal products, you know, these
kinds of things that get incorporated into the medicine. And
it's something for me that I get to steer around
(30:45):
it basically. You know, it's like you can see whether
it's in a formula or not. And then just as
a rule, because of my own ethics and values, I'm
not going to trust that it's all ethical, you know too,
those elements and things, but it is. Yeah, the Chinese,
the traditional Chinese meta system system is more relies more
(31:07):
heavily on on animal and other living being type of
ingredients in their formulas.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean it's so ancient. Maybe back
back in the day there were there were more rhinos
than there are now, so lead the rhinos alone, there's
other ways to take care of ourselves. Do you know
what that actually is supposed to do, is it's sort
of what.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Is actually Yeah, so that in the case it's in
the case of the of the rhino horn, it was
actually used for like deadly fevers. It's one of the
reasons they valued it so much is that it could
be a lifesaver. But I agree that, you know, it's yeah,
it's it's sickening to think about, especially the people that
will go for say longevity or super health at any cost,
(31:56):
and they just have this, you know, this kind of
attitude that you know, they're entitled to some very you know,
rare and endangered animals hearts to get there.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, well, I appreciate your point of view. And never
for you know, never for a minute would I have
thought that that was even something that I don't know
any kind of any practitioner in the US would probably
be supporting at this point, right. I mean, it's it's
time to evolve. And you know, I think that's an
interesting question, Scott, because you've been doing this for twenty
(32:33):
five years. You say, and how do you see people
are doing I mean, I think there's more awareness for
are you veda and traditional Chinese medicine in the press decades.
And yet at the same time, are we doing more
things or our environment that much more toxic to ourselves?
(32:54):
So how are we doing? I mean, one people are
taking to it. Two maybe we're doing things that are
bad for ourselves. So just kind of I always like
to ask the question, how are we doing?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's I know. I feel like, especially since
the pandemic, there has been such a clear and bright,
hopeful evolutionary trajectory that a lot of people are moving towards.
(33:26):
So there's a lot to you know, that I take
heart from. Including for me, something that's very powerful is
the merging of social justice movements and healing movements, where
the argument about self care being in service to the
world you want to live in is actually and the
(33:47):
way that your psycho spiritual evolution is tied into your health,
but with a real emphasis on evolving the way that
we do things. So I feel like there's a lot
of hope. And simultaneously, the breakdown of natural systems from
(34:08):
pollution and from exploitation is making it it is making
it harder to stay well. In fact, I heard something
just recently too, and it struck me the way they
framed it, which is because of the global warming that
heat waves are actually, out of all the natural disasters,
heat waves can be the most dangerous.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
They're the most debilitating.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
For humans, and that as that becomes more common, it's
you know, it's it's very hard to stay healthy when
you're going through extreme weather experiences for example, and just
those kind of things make it so that something like
yoga and ariveda and learning to really utilize them. One
(34:53):
of the goals is to make you have better internal
integration so that your stability is strong, younger in the
face of adversity. And so as the intensity of these
waves and the pollution of the natural environment and the
food supply, you know, increases, the only way through is
(35:14):
to at some level really refine your own internal balance
at some level.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Excellent, Thank you very much, Scott. You work with people individually,
as mentioned up in northern California. Tell us your website
please if you would, please.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Sure it's My website is www doctor Blossom dot com.
D O C.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
T O. R. B.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
L oss O N fantastic And I know that you're
doing courses online, courses with people, and there's lots of
different ways to work with doctor Scott and thank you.
This is a fascinating conversation. I could go deeply down
the rabbit hole of all my favorite topics of things
I've learned and bounce them off of you. I appreciate
(35:59):
you kind of indulging me in my personal fascination in this,
and truly I will end with you on this like again,
what comes sort of how we began? What comes first?
Healthy body? And we can get to that piece that
the peace in our mind? Or do we by having
(36:21):
clarity in our mind, can we then inform our body
how to get there and make good choices? I mean,
I guess it's both. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, it is both, And I'll just you know, stick
with Ira Vada to say that the tissues and the
balance of the tissues is literally the home for the mind,
and so the way you work with the tissues has
a profound, profound impact on the stability of the mind,
and that somebody who has cultivated really excellent meditative awareness
(36:56):
can weather illness better than somebody who hasn't. But if
somebody's body is not sound, it will really be challenging
usually for them, both mentally and emotionally, and so I
come down more on the side of almost a developmental
look too, to say, with children, you don't start them
with meditation, you start.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Them with mother's mob and you start them with bad food.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Excellent, all right, this is really great. That could almost
be its own show right there, but we have to
come to Bockyfest and to learn more. So thank you
again doctor Blossom dot com. Once again, see you very
soon in the desert. And you know, thanks again for
your time. This has been fascinating.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Cheers everybody. What a privilege it is for me to
bring to you favorite subjects and luminaries that will help
us really just raise the vibe. That's what we're here
to do at Truth Be Told. And I've got Tony
Sweet in the studio right over there, and he's gonna
he's gonna feed me some information that I want to
let you know about because if you were in the
Los Angeles area, going to be having an event on Friday,
(38:02):
October fifth, and it's up in Santa Clarita. I stand
corrected already. It is Friday, October fourth in Santa Clarita.
So we hope you'll come up for a special Halloween
event featuring Colby Rebel.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
It's on the screen right there.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Thank you very much, Tony for letting us know, and
we'd love to see you in person. And you know again, everybody,
it's great to hear from you. Let us know if
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you'd like for us to talk about. Don't forget Tony
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