September 25, 2024 • 45 mins
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WARNING: This week's podcast contains discussions of violence and rape. These topics can be triggering for some listeners. Listen with tissues and caution.
Our discussion begins with at-home karaoke practice and a Tori Kelli concert and unfolds into an unforgettable night of encounters. A dramatic reunion and a humorous run-in with a familiar face from the past set the tone, but things took an emotional turn when we found a man grieving his recently deceased mother. Our instincts kicked in, leading to a deeply compassionate interaction that showcased the power of human connection. This experience made us reflect on the bystander effect and the importance of taking action to help others in need.
Bringing the night full circle, we ended with some light-hearted nightclub adventures. Dancing, surprising encounters with quirky characters, and even a chance run-in with a past fling added to the delight. We also touched on navigating self-doubt and celebrated personal victories, emphasizing the importance of being genuine and vulnerable. Join us for this roller-coaster of emotions, laughter, and reflections on empathy and human connection.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, mister.
You look like a bright-eyed andbushy-tailed right now.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Are you making fun?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Okay, yeah, I actually don't look as bad as I
thought I would when I looked inthe mirror.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You don't look as bad as you feel.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, because you don't look that well.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm doing it literally for the plot Kyle.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, and last night was a plot twist.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Honestly, the debriefing that needs to go down
.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah Well, we went to go see Tori Kelly last night
and, oh my gosh, it was so muchfun.
We were about a half hour latebecause we were at home singing
karaoke just by ourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But we hit some notes though.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, I would say it wasn't our best performance, but
we we were trying out newmaterial.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So you know, there's a learning curve yeah, and my
vocal coach hadn't gone overthose songs with me yet and that
would be me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yes, yeah, well, you gotta oh god, you gotta start
somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
That's where I was gonna say we're gonna have to
keep this episode juicy, so mybrain stays in it, yeah
absolutely.
Well, I just wanted to welcomeeveryone and say happy bottom
autumn, happy bottom autumn.
Today's the first day of autumn.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I mean, when this releases, it'll be like, oh,
actually a couple days from now,because we're behind.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, this is our second day in a row.
Two of three.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And we're recording again tomorrow.
Yeah, prepare to be sick of me?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I already am.
So do we?
Are we just gonna like recountour stories from last night
because it brings up severalgood topics yeah, I know, but
what would you say like?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
the theme is, if you like, recapped the whole evening
in your brain I think theunfamously unwell could be
summarized until last night.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The only thing that's missing is a toxic x.
That's the only category thatwas not checked.
Yeah, oh, let's.
I want us to go inchronological order okay, okay I
think that that's yeah so we'rerecording here.
We're gonna go to tori kellyand before you leave you're like
let's find the gays.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, right, yeah, yeah , yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We found the gang.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, we call an Uber .
Get in the car and the driveris like, are you guys together?
And we were like, no, we'reroommates, we're going to Tori
Kelly and he goes well, you gotyourself a gay driver tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
is there, lucky you, or something like that um, you
were like oh, does that mean wecan vape?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
and he was like only if I can we were like slay,
queen slay and I was even gonnaroll down the window, but
they're all child lock.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But then he's like oh my god, I love toy kelly,
couldn't.
He could not find a singlefucking song on his phone.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
No, I think he was just trying to flirt with us,
but I think he was also stonedas fuck.
As fuck like his car smelledlike cigarette smoke.
When I got in he said welcometo my vehicle.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You weren't there yet , but I'm gonna start telling
people that when I hook up withthem welcome to my vehicle in
the car kids get in oh my god,like a soccer mom.
How many can that van fit?
Well, apparently more than one.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So then we get to Miss Kelly.
Yes, we do, and we thought thatthere was going to be an opener
.
So we're like, okay, it startsat 8.30.
We'll get there at like nine.
Nope, she just kicked thingsoff and went right into a
million runs and we missed likeat least three or four songs,
right, we missed half the setlist.
Yeah, that's yeah, and the veryfirst song she does is my
(03:27):
favorite, yeah, and the new songthat I love diamond or diamonds
, what is?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Diamonds.
Yeah, missed that one.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was like that's like, that's like three fourths
of the way down, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Well, it's like a quarter of the way down diamonds
on that's so good.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Good, anyways, we love tori kelly.
Shout out to tori kelly, weshould tag her.
Yeah, and she that.
I don't know how someone couldjust like we'll be speaking or
like singing any, literally anynote and just start doing a run
on it and like the runs are justlike combinations of notes that
I could not even conceive in myhead, let alone perform and
it's not like on the spot, likeshe just makes it up.
I think uh, oh, that's becauseshe it was born to do that.
(04:10):
Yeah, I know you can just tell,but it's not like christina
aguilera just doing the samelike belty, like it's, it's her
falsetto.
It's her like super high pitchand then like low and she goes
everywhere yeba is, who is theonly other artist I've heard
that does that well.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I have like listened to some like reels or like
YouTube videos with her and herlike vocal coach who
specifically does runs and justlike makes up the like weirdest
combination of like notes togive her and then she does them
and just like blows my mindevery time.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And we had a hot take that her and Jessie J are
similar with the way they cancontrol their voice and put it
wherever the fuck they want.
Right, and can like hit a note,can like drag out a note.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But we also had a hot take that best vocalist.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Literally.
I think she's like I've seenAdele and you've seen Beyonce.
I've seen Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Christina Aguilera, Mariah I've seen all of these
girls Because it wasn't even forwow factor.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I didn't even see she was trying.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
To do that, on tour To do that.
There was also no backupdancers, there was just a
pianist and a drummer whoweren't even there for half the
show, like they showed up kindof at the end I think she did an
acoustic set yeah and when wearrived, yeah, and she, she
literally took two songs thatthe crowd picked and played them
(05:36):
, yeah, and sing them and like,so, like she had her repertoire
had to be, every song is apossibility.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah and I think it's just like in her
brain all the time for 30 we gotthese tickets yeah it was great
there was babies there therewere babies with headphones,
okay, and I also had my loop earearplugs in, yeah you got to
use them, I know, and they'respectacular you could actually
(06:03):
hear me better.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I could hear everything.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You heard me better than but it just brings down
those really loud sounds to anormal volume.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I should maybe invest in them, because my hearing is
going they're like $35.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
A bargain, do it.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Honestly, we spent more on drinks and Ubers last
night and that just ruins ourbody and that's protecting it.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Invest in future Caleb.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I did today by having my Baja Blast.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh good, you did think about your future self.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I had a Baja Blast last night.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You went to Taco Bell .
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I did no, but I'm not having a Baja Blast right now,
but I had a Baja blast right now.
But, like I had a Baja blastwith you last night, we had so
much fun, that's what I wasgetting at, so Clever.
Then the show ends and we'relike okay, let's go to the hill.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Because we're still looking for the gays.
Yeah, like our Uber driver,that wasn't enough.
Well, and also the crowd at aTori Kelly concert not super gay
, it's a lot of like um suburbanstraight couples.
I say there were a lot of likestraight couples, kind of in
(07:11):
their like 20s and 30s with alittle like religious undertones
.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
yes, but the girls who brought their straight
boyfriend christian but alsolow-key.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
High-key have good taste yes, because our girl next
to me clearly was singing everyno and like had.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh, she was so good too.
I'm glad I couldn't hear that,because I had my earplugs in so
then we go to get in the uber,but we walk a little bit and
then you're like I'll have to gopee lo and behold.
Guess what we find a honeybucket and then you swing open,
that I'm like, wait, let me takeyour photo.
I took your photo, I'll post onthe internet.
No, um.
And then you swing open thatI'm like, wait, let me take your
photo.
I took your photo, I'll post iton the internet.
No, and then you open the doorand you're like, oh, absolutely
(07:47):
not.
I'm like Kyle, don't bedramatic.
So you're pissing outside of it.
I'm like, don't be dramatic,I'll go in there.
I've never seen a honey bucketso full.
I just full it was.
And I'm like don't be dramatic.
So then I'm like just breathethrough your mouth.
I go in there.
He's dry heaving literally.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, I'm like pissing on the outside of it.
I was like I'm glad I didn't goin you.
You were in there for a littlebit well, I had to.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
My bladder was held.
Yeah, yeah, it was, I had torelease it.
Yeah, then we finally get anuber to the hill.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yep, capital hill we are.
We get gayborhood in seattle,oh yes, but we go.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm like you're like, where do we want to go?
I'm like I want to go to queerbar.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's why I want to dance then we forget that's not
what I said.
That's not what I said.
I said that, yeah, okay,because I want to dance yeah,
but I kept we.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I got all the way there and I forgot that it was
only 10 pm correct, yeah, sowhere do we go?
There's still a drag show goingon.
We go to mount joyce, rightnext to it, yep, a little
restaurant and I got a kid'smeal and I got some celery
sticks and the baby apple juice.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I was like, do you want a chicken strip?
And he's like, no, I'm, I'mjust gonna have this piece of
celery.
I was like, oh yeah, becauseyou're bottoming tonight I
couldn't I know she's toxic.
Yeah, I ate all the chicken.
It's all good.
And was it good?
It was really really good,actually, yeah, actually,
factually.
Could have used more ranch, butyeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I did one time after drinking, go and get a milkshake
there.
I wish they had bettermilkshake options, because it
was like weird combinations.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like, almost like if you went to like a smoothie
place and like they put likecollagen in it or some shit.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, no, you don't want a healthy milkshake when
you want a healthy smoothie oryou want to be bad and you get a
milkshake a strawberrycheesecake milkshake.
I'm gonna give them feedback.
They should do that, yeah ifthey're looking for feedback I
just go to dq.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Get yourself a blizzard so they they dip it
upside down, but then youremember those like sticks that
make that noise.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You turn upside down.
Yes, wait, that was pretty good, right, yeah, yeah so maybe
I'll stick the grinder.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You step for that.
Um, so then we do pay to go in.
There's still a drag show.
We're like it's too early forthis.
We go to union union.
We're classy bitches.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I get a glass of wine , you get a ipr, ipa, ipr, irl
um international personal recordand you get your ipr and, like
most makeouts, in one night it'smy ipr oh no, I got an ipa up
here my brain.
I try to act so interested.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, that's right um and we're not there very long,
like we're like chugging, wehave one drink.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We just do like a fruit loop, which, if you don't
know what a fruit loop is, it'swhere you and your friend go
around the entire bar and youjust like check for cute fruits.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, your eyes are peeled, you're looking, but
you're not making it known thatyou're looking.
Yeah.
You're walking with intentionand you're just like casually
and like, oh my gosh, you justsaid something so funny like I'm
just gonna laugh meanwhile do.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
They know that we're just crop testing everyone.
Okay.
Also, you know, we should tryone time what um.
Chicken got through you girlokay, like you go around the bar
going in one direction and I goaround the bar in the other
direction and we just like tappeople and be like have you seen
my friend caleb?
This is what he looks like, youknow.
(11:14):
Blah, blah, blah.
He's like on a podcast, blah,blah, blah.
And then of course, everyone'slike no, I don't know who your
friend caleb is or what he lookslike, you know.
But then we like meet back upin the middle and then we go
back around the whole bartogether and tell everyone hey
look, I found my friend Caleb.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
What I love is when we do meet back in the middle.
We make it a scene.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
There he is, there, there you are.
And then everyone turns aroundand looks and then I'm like
running looks yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And then I'm like running, you do a little lift,
there's no music playing,probably.
And then I'm like oh, my god,I've been looking for you and
then we don't go around.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, yeah, like make a scene and and then everyone
will, at the end of the night,will be like do?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
you remember?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
the that guy that was looking for his friend caleb
what was the name of thatpodcast?
Again, yeah, done that's gonnabe that's called gorilla
marketing honey that is our molike.
Oh, how's your day going.
It's good because of my podcastand unwell we are yeah but I
love this bit.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, me too okay so then, while we're, you were
going to tell the story like, dowe tell him?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
we tell him, tell him , oh, biblically man well, caleb
um points out this like reallypretty girl, and he's yeah,
she's talking to someone andtheir back is turned to us, and
so I walk up to her and justgive her a compliment and let
her know that her fashion is onpoint.
Her beat is amazing pulsatingyeah, and, and then the person
(12:39):
that she's talking to turnsaround and I'm like oh hi, I
know you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We like had sex after um hannah montana, were you
stealing her skirt then?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
no, I had gotten rid of the skirt at that point wow,
those skirts really did a numberfor us, yeah, and then she
starts interrogating us, beinglike, oh, how do you know each
other?
I'm like, oh, intimately.
And then she's like what doesthat mean?
I'm like biblically, like how,how more obvious do I need it?
And you could tell.
Then she's like, what does thatmean?
I'm like biblically, like how,how more obvious do I need it?
and you can tell the guy waslike I know he's like okay, that
was like at three o'clock inthe morning, yeah meanwhile it's
(13:13):
still 10 pm.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, it's too early to be reliving that.
Yeah, experience, but justimagine how he was like wow,
you're probably way moreattractive than I remember.
You know, because usually it'sthe opposite, like if you go
with someone, he probably wasthinking that he was like wow,
you're probably way moreattractive than I remember you
know, because usually it's theopposite, like if you go with
someone, he probably wasthinking that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He was like wow, you know, I scored that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm gonna go with that narrative, yeah so then we
finish our drinks, yep, and thenwe go back to queer bar, but on
the way there something happensI'm just now it's all flooding
back to me, the dead mom of itall.
So we're walking, which?
What is like a few blocks.
Spoiler alert a few blocks yeah, it's like three or four blocks
(13:51):
or something so by now it'slike 10, 30, 10, 45 and I'm like
we are walking down thesidewalk and this man is in the
bush there's a man just likepassed out like on his back
which I'm like thinking uh, thisperson could like throw up and
aspirate and die, and then you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm like kyle we have to stop yeah, yeah, you were
like we need to stop.
And then my first thought wasyou're a nurse, so like this is
a good person to like check onthis um other, this guy passed
out in the bushes with.
And so we get down on our kneesin the bush with him and just
(14:29):
kind of like tap him and are youokay?
What did you ask him?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I said hey, can you wake up for me, can you wake up?
He's like I'm fine and I waslike no, you're not.
I said open your eyes, let usjust chat yeah and I said are
you here with someone where,like we like, I'm just trying to
assess the scene?
To make sure he's safe, Becausehe had blood on his knee that
was not his blood Right and Ikept pointing it out.
I was like whose blood is?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
that you kept whispering it to me.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm like, whose blood is that?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But he's like really just out of it, like barely
awake, barely conscious At thebeginning Definitely like
completely blackout, like didn'tknow where he was or how he got
there.
And so we started asking him,like, do you have a phone?
Like uh, can we call someone?
Can we get you an uber back toyour house?
What's your address?
And and you patted him down Idid to like make sure he did
(15:18):
give you consent.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He lifted his butt yeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
He did um good butt honestly, oh my god, he was a
little cutie but he didn't.
He didn't have a phone, hedidn't have a wallet no, keys no
keys and I think, like once herealized that he didn't have any
of those things, he was like ohfuck because it kind of kind of
clicked like I'm.
I'm in a bush, I'm not surewhere, but there's a bunch of
(15:41):
people like out and about and Icould tell that he started like
getting worried, you know, likenot, I wouldn't say like
panicked, but he was definitelylike oh fuck, like where am I?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I think you asked him have you had a lot to drink
tonight?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
and that's when he tells us his mom died the day
before yeah so meanwhile, then Igrabbed his hand and I was like
almost in tears because I waslike, oh fuck, like you are
dealing with some shit andyou're probably, you know, on a
fucking bender and just tryingto like numb the pain of your
mom fucking passing what I lovedis we gave there was like this,
(16:17):
like almost moment of silence,like acknowledging it was like
we're really sorry.
Like we were so genuine likewith him.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We were just so like.
That's really tough.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I just wanted to help him yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So then anyways.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
he had no phone, no wallet.
His mom died, Heidi was hername yeah.
Yesterday and he didn't knowwhere he was.
He didn't know where hisfriends were or what bar he was
at.
So I was like what's youraddress?
We'll just call Uber for you.
And he gives us this address.
First off, he changed it.
Oh yeah, I mean it took us awhile just to get the numbers
(16:53):
and the street name.
The address is in Camino Island, it's like it's 159 uber uh-huh
.
And we were like okay, Ithought you said you lived like
12 blocks away from here.
Well, the math wasn't mathing,um.
So then I was like okay, do youremember anyone's phone number?
(17:14):
And he was like oh my, maybe mybrother, my brother.
I was like what's yourbrother's name?
He gave me his name and then hestarted like typing in the
phone number and it started witha zero and you kept like no,
that can't be it.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
No, this is it.
And he even said out loud zero,yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And you're like no, no, I was like it can't start
with a zero.
I can't maybe they do itdifferently on camino island
dude I'm trying to help youright now and this is not
working.
So then I was like okay, youtold me your brother's name, I'm
gonna find him on instagram andthen we'll call him through the
instagram feature.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Couldn't find him on instagram no, and you don't have
it on your phone.
No, so then we take the phonefrom him that he's trying to
dial because it's mine and giveit to you to try to find.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, he's not, he doesn't exist, no so then we
finally get him up because wesee like cop cars driving by and
we're like okay, dude, eitheryou need to get in the cop car
and like go to a hospital, oryou need to like get up and
avoid being arrested.
So, anyways, we walked with himto a street food stand, got him
(18:25):
a bottle of water, he kepttelling us I'm not gay, but I
love curly hair.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And there was this boy and I even apologized once
for him.
I said, hey, we don't reallyknow this guy, we're just trying
to help him out.
I'm sorry, because he wasalmost falling into him.
And then he's like oh, likeit's okay few minutes pass, then
he goes and does it again andwe've invested time in this man
and, like, we gave it the oldcollege try.
Yeah, we tried our best.
(18:51):
We had no other options but togo to career bar yeah, without
him.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah.
So he was up and standing anddoing a lot better and as I was
partying and he was like sayingthat he's not gay, I was like,
but remember tonight that twogay guys took care of you and
made sure you didn't getarrested and got you water and
vote.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Kamala harris 2024 you sure the fuck did, yeah, and
meanwhile, this is all next towild rose and everyone in that
line is looking at us.
Oh yeah, because for one.
He was attractive to fallingeverywhere yeah, he was
attractive.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And fucking caleb, it keeps like whispering don't
kiss him.
Don't kiss him when he set up,when he set up.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
he was very like he was looking for, like maybe it's
because his mom was dying orwhatever.
Like that connecting, like Icould tell, like he was going to
like.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, well, I was not about to kiss him, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I felt like he was going to try.
I was just letting oh okay.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, not that you're a shitty.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You're not a shitty enough human Like hi?
Stranger on the street.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You mom died.
Let's make out.
Can you imagine you're toxic,but not that bad?
Yeah, no, no, I'm not.
Oh, that's not one of my toxictraits no, but um what were you?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
you were telling me upstairs um the psychology of
something oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So that kind of um brought me to thinking about.
At least what I woke up thismorning thinking about was that
most people walk by like there'sprobably hundreds of people on
that street and walked by thisdude and did not stop and check
on him.
And there's this theory inpsychology that's called the
bystander effect, and it wascreated in the 80s and
(20:33):
researched in the 80s when thisincident happened in New York.
This woman her name was KittyGenovese, I think is her name
and she lived in this apartmentbuilding that had a courtyard in
the middle, and so there's allthese apartments in these
(20:55):
high-rise buildings that looktheir windows face down into
this courtyard, and she wasraped in the courtyard.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, we didn't go all the way into this detail.
My attention is caught.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
She was raped in the courtyard screaming for help,
and people were looking down atthis like act of violence and
did nothing.
Not only did she get raped, butthen the attacker left.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And got away.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Came back hours later , raped her again and then
killed her.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I was not emotionally ready for that right now.
Oh my God, wait, I'm feelinglike shaky.
I was not emotionally ready forthat right now.
Oh my God, wait, I'm feelinglike shaky.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I know.
Okay, so this like horrificthing that happened made a lot
of psychology researchers wonderwhy did no one do anything?
You know, there's all thesepeople like literally watching
this thing happen, and what isit about humans that think that
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they don't need to act whenanother person is in need?
And so basically, all thisresearch found that when there
is a dispersion ofresponsibility, everyone thinks
that someone else is going tostep in and do something.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
We're both so action oriented.
They're like, yeah, weimmediately try to take and I
will all.
I've done it many times ifthere's someone passed out like
I will always stop to make surethey're okay.
But I never thought of it like.
I'm like oh, that is myresponsibility as a human but
like you're saying that mostpeople like, like, not my
problem, someone else is goingto do it for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Take care of them right and, like you know,
hundreds of people walked bythis guy that's passed out in a
bush and didn't do anything.
And so, like you really have tobe like aware of like these
psychological phenomena thatlike affect all of us, that,
unless you know about them, youknow, you don't realize that
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like they're happening, you knowall around us and that they do
affect like the actions that wetake or don't take, and so it's
called the bystander effect,because people just assume that,
like, they're bystanders andthey don't need to take, you
know, responsibility and thatsomeone, someone else will step
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in and do the right thing, orthat there's police or
paramedics or whatever and it'stheir job to do it.
But it's really like we, as acollective community, we need to
be taking care of each otherand all it takes is a phone call
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to get support to people whoneed it.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So I want to touch on that real quick because if you
think I'm in my brain gettingenraged or pissed off, because,
imagine someone's out herelighting fireworks.
Every single human around iscalling 9-1-1 instead of just
being like oh I know, someoneelse is probably going to call
yeah they're because it'sinterrupting their life.
But even not even on the samewavelength, someone else's life
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is being interrupted or they'regoing through it or something
bad is happening and they'relike, oh, someone else will take
care of it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like that comparison I know it's kind of extreme one
side to the other, but it's in away similar well, it just makes
me feel like people are selfish, like with that example, you
know, it's like, oh well, whenit's loud and something's
affecting me, then I'm going todo something about it, but when
it's someone passed out in abush that needs help but that's
not affecting me, then I'm justgoing to walk along.
(24:30):
You know, on my way and I thinkthat, like for me, I try to
always stop and I felt reallysafe doing it with you because
you're a nurse and if there waslike a problem you would know
what to do, right.
But it doesn't always turn outlike the way that it did last
night, because I have been inlike situations where I, you
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know, checked on someone that itwas like a unhoused person and
they were clearly like onsomething.
And just to give everyone likea little bit of backstory, my
brother has schizophrenia and soI've like grown up around like
mental illness, so, like when Isee someone who is in a state of
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mental unwellness, it's like myknee jerk reaction to like make
sure that they're okay.
Because I feel like there'sthis perception that people who
are mentally like, have mentalillness, are scary and violent
and like that's not always thecase.
However, this one person thatI'm talking about in particular
outside of Azelle in the centraldistrict love me some azales
(25:38):
fried chicken.
Um, he was like on meth orsomething and he like started
like running at me and startedscreaming at me and telling me
that his um, that I slept withhis wife and or something.
And he was like you fuck my, youfuck my wife and literally
chased me like out into thestreet and like the cars stopped
(26:02):
on like Cherry and 23rd, sothat I could pass, and this big
black guy in this huge truck gotout of his car in the middle of
traffic to like yell at thiscrazy person that was chasing
after me and when I turned myback, to like get away from him.
I don't know if he like punchedme in the back or kicked me in
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the back, but you know itdoesn't always go well.
So I'm just saying that as likea tale of caution that you
don't always have to like be theperson to check to make sure
that the people around you are,you know, doing okay or like not
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going to die in a bush, but youcan also step up when the
circumstances are right and youhave someone like caleb, who's a
nurse who, like can support youin like making those decisions
you know, and or you can do itfrom like afar and you can, you
know, call a non-emergencyhotline and explain what's going
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on.
But the moral of the story islike you should do something
take an action.
Doesn't matter what it is, justdo something and not think that
someone else is going to do it,because chances are they're not.
And that's why I bring up theyou know story or a story and
like talk about the bystandereffect, because it's been proven
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, like in psychology, thatpeople do not take action which
is so crazy that I canunderstand.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I could see that, but like I've never not felt the
urge to just do something forsomeone like I even remember,
like someone was vomiting at theconcert we went to and I was
like well, can someone get her atowel or this?
so I went to the bar.
But I went, I was at the cuffone time and this guy's vomiting
on the patio and it'severyone's bitching because it's
(27:52):
like getting on their shoes,and I take him to the bathroom,
I help him get cleaned up and Ibring like a handful of paper
towels out to people.
Yeah, I'm like hey, sorry, Ithink they were just really sick
.
They're like oh, is that yourfriend?
I was like I don't know thatperson yeah but I always just
felt like I just want to helptake care of people, which it
makes sense why I'm a nurse.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
But yeah, how do you feel that way?
I don't know?
You can also like, instead ofrolling your eyes, you can also
like, go to the bartender and belike, hey, can you like get
someone to help?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
it doesn't show the best side of humanity when
things like this happen.
Like it made me feel, but italso made me feel really
connected to you, because I waslike you're such a good human
and we both, like, were like, ohmy god, yes, of course we'll do
, instead of being like come on,leave him, leave him alone,
let's go.
We have this plan, we're gonnado this.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean, I was.
I was about to be like okay, wecan't like handle this, until
he was like my mom diedyesterday, and then I was like
fuck, I'm like emotionally innow right, yeah, but kyle, do
you know, like he probablydoesn't remember us because he
was, not at all, no way, yeah,it's so.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I hope he remembers to vote for kamala harris right
but it's so small moments that,like, make me just so happy to
be alive, in a way of like beingable just to connect with
humans and take care of them andlove on them, and like we're
strangers.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We'll probably never see that man again, but we were
there to support him, likeliterally the day after the
hardest day of his life yeah,that's what I wanted to say yes
I feel like we started reallylight and then we got really
heavy, but we'll bring it backaround so then we are finally go
into queer bar because we hadgotten stamped finally went back
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into queer bar.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, yes, and we get drinks and then we go to the
dance floor and I'm shaking ass.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Throwing all kinds of ass.
Yep, having the best timeYou're whacking, you're spinning
, you're twirling.
It is Bachelorette Central.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We've done a couple lifts, yeah.
Oh my God, that one was so funwhen I did almost like a back
bend to touch the ground and Iwas so confident and I was so
calm, did I even ask you don'ttell you not to drop me?
You did one time yeah is itlike the first?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think so.
Then after that I was like oh,he got it, yeah, yeah he got it
girl and I had on this cutesytop yeah, took off the sleeves.
I was like couldn't be bothered.
Then I was like, kyle, youstill have your shirt on and
I'll take off mine.
But then you're like, okay,let's go.
Or I'm like, okay, just give mea few more minutes.
Like just to dance, 30 minutesprobably, I'm still out there
(30:20):
and then I come to find you um,where the wild things are.
Guy he had there was this bison.
Like what would you call it ahat?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
yeah, like uh toboggan was that what they're
called?
This toboggan is a sled.
I don't we.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I've been through this with these canadians around
hereabagin's back home.
That's what we called the knitheadwear.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, it's like a fur hat almost.
Yeah, yeah with the earcoverings.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But this one was where the wild things are from
that story with the little ears.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Not the crown, though , the horns, not ears.
Yeah, horns.
Um, you're out there talking tohim and there was something
juicy that was going down.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh, he just like said that he like intentionally
followed me out to the patio andthought that I was really cute.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And then I turned to him and I was like so what's the
name of, like the guy in yourgroup in the white shirt?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
that's really cute and I'm over here encouraging.
I was like, oh, he's cute, goahead.
And you're like, no, caleb, no.
And I'm like, do it.
I'm not gonna make out with theguy in the where the wild
things are toboggan, but he likeit's, it's a little like it's
so, like it's a touch of quirky,that like I'm yeah, I'm
intrigued.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, what did you send me?
I?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
know you, you love a um a frog, frog prince can I
read this what it says?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
yes, absolutely.
Where did you find this again?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
the daily scam.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's like my daily like email newsletter that I get
with all of my fun facts so,whether you find it amusing or
absolutely baffling, we're hereto report that the bewildering
internet trend of using animalkingdom as a mean to categorize
men is still going strong.
And while we were willing toget on board with
eager-to-please golden retrieverboyfriends not to be confused
with Rottweiler boyfriends,German Shepherd boyfriends or
(32:11):
Doberman- boyfriends we fear theanimal classification has
officially gone too far.
Enter Caleb's type, enter thefrog prince.
Now to be clear, frog princesare neither amphibians or royals
.
Rather, according to one writer, they're sexy men with unusual
features like wide-set eyes,goofy smiles a la Harry.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Styles.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Rami Malek Dominic Cooper.
At first I was like, oh my God,how did that get in here?
That's supposedly different, uh, from the aforementioned rodent
men.
But honestly, we can't attackuh, exactly tell you how.
As far as we're concerned, allwe see are squints, famous men.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I don't get that like a little squint and emoji would
have been helpful.
Yeah, but I love the idea of ityeah you do love a little like
yeah, weird, something weird.
You know like really pretty,but something weird going on and
like very specific, like skinnyusually they're kind of like
(33:12):
how tall?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I don't have a tall.
I don't have a height thingokay, taller than you, same or
higher okay, usually I don'thave a tall.
I don't have a height thingOkay, taller than you, same or
higher Okay, usually.
I don't care if they're shorterthan me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Remember I was like when we went to Queer Power I
was like I just want to pick thetallest person in the club and
make out with them, and thensomeone walked in that was like
6'6 or 6'7, but I was likewhat's it called?
Like they almost had likegiganticism is that?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
is that the word no, um, giant nope, like their human
growth hormone is through theroof right yeah.
So I was like no, maybe not Ido like a disproportion a little
bit yeah, you do yeah, okay,I'm there, I'm following, but
was that man?
Did you, didn't you retractyour?
Oh, I don't want.
I want to make out with thetallest man because you're like,
(33:59):
okay, he's the tallest, but nothim Exactly.
Yeah, you know what?
I take it back, I take it backmy goal, my storyline, my plot
for the night is changing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's my prerogative to change my mind as a woman.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Prerog of it.
All.
Other than that, it was apretty tame night, yeah, I mean,
other than like the honeybucket and you running into
someone you had slept with aftera hannah montana when you were
in a skirt.
Um, my god, what a like to thepoint episode I know I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, caleb, why don't you give us your victory
advice of the week?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
okay, I on my paper here, victory, I'm gonna wing it
okay.
Well, let's just first say thispast week has been a great week
of us, like sharing and gettingthe news out about the podcast.
Oh yeah, because you did sowell about initiating
conversation about it were andthen people were like very
inquisitive and so thursdaywhich maybe that'll be my
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victory that we won the firstround of playoffs.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, our pickleball team won our first playoff match
.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So that means we go on to the next yeah, we go on to
next week.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, can you believe it.
I was so excited.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Literally after we got the match point, I jumped
into Matt's arms and he caughtme, thank God.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Like you, just won Olympic gold.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, absolutely, and what I love is like and we were
working for it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I, but you could just feel like everyone's intensity
in the gym was like turned on Ahundred percent.
But it was also so nice that wegot there kind of an hour.
We got there an hour earlybecause, accidentally and we got
to watch everyone else play andyou could just tell everyone's
intensity was leveled up mm-hmmand it was like it was fun.
Yeah, everyone was in it.
Yeah, we were having fun, wewere being competitive.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
But and just mingling , and I think the point that you
were trying to make was that wewent out to a bar after we won
our playoff match and maybebecause we were like riding the
high of our playoff win, we weretalking up the podcast a lot.
Yeah, and we have a ton of newlisteners.
We do and people were followingand interacting with the posts
(36:04):
and stuff and thank you all forlistening and continue to tune
in, and for all of our newlisteners out there.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
But you had mentioned to and I think it was like a
funny joke, you had mentioned tothe bald man there that we were
like he asked like maybe likewhat did he ask?
That caused you to say no, hewas not in a good mood, so we
couldn't record last night Like,did he ask?
Like oh, when do you usuallyrecord?
And were you like, oh, usuallyWednesdays, but last night we
didn't be like how did it?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
how did he forget how it came up?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I, because then he was like you should share that,
like if you're in a bad mood orwhatever.
I was like I, I told him, Isaid we really sat down and
tried and I said, and I'm was sowilling to share it, it just
was so in the moment that Icouldn't get to a storyline when
we were recording wednesday youwere just like in a bad
headspace for whatever reasonand kind of like in this.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
How would you describe it like?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
so doubt, almost, yeah because that's what we're
going to try to do the topic onso, but I only mentioned
thursday night.
Well, my victory.
But it also ties into himsaying well, you should share
that and which has been our.
We've done this.
The whole time on the podcastis like we give people a peek
behind the curtains, not justlike the you know, princess step
version right, yeah and I knewI wanted to share.
(37:22):
That's why I kept trying torecord that night.
But the reason I was in thatheadspace is we had a phenomenal
like we were.
We've been together like almostevery single day for like the
last few weeks I'm sick of you Iknow truly, um, but the weekend
, but um, leading into this pastweek.
So, like last weekend, into thispast week, we had done a lot of
podcast sharing, we had mingledwith new friends, we were
(37:44):
talking a lot about it, we weregetting so much positive
feedback that we were on thishigh.
And then, come Wednesday, Iwoke up with so much self-doubt.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Is this your vice now ?
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's where it initially started.
I was like, oh, my victory canjust be pickleball vice now,
yeah, okay, that's where itinitially started I was like, oh
, my victory can just bepickleball, yeah, so it ties all
together.
But I woke up with so much doubtand and I was sharing it with
you, because you came home andyou were still feeling like this
, like excited to record, andall of these- things yeah and I
just had this worst feeling ofimposter syndrome, yeah, and I
was like people were black andwhite, telling us how good it is
(38:17):
and how much they're enjoyingand how like I don't know, like
it's great feedback we weregetting.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And then like you just kept telling me, like I
just don't believe it, and I waslike caleb you've gotten like
all these like data points thatare telling you one thing that
people are are you know, theylove you and they love your
voice and they are loving ourpodcast and the phone case that
you made me and you know all ofthese positive things, but for
some reason you don't believe ityeah, and it was like I
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remember we were just sittinghere and then, like it just
brought on a whole nother waveof emotions about like
everything.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
But it's so like perplexing my brain because you,
you, you really did help thatnight.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I told you like that's not helping, like
sometimes but it did helpbecause you know, you knowing
better than you knowing betterthan me.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Interesting okay um, but I'm glad thank you first off
for being there for me, but Iwanted just to share that I do
appreciate all the positivefeedback and and I and we want
to hear from you.
Yes, and it's, but it's, it isand I'm just being genuine, and
I'm sure other people feel thatway it's like oh, I don't
believe, yeah, that I should bedoing this or I have a voice, or
that I am good at it, or peoplelike me, or whatever.
(39:29):
Um, so that's my advice is thatI don't let the self-doubt creep
in yeah, because nothingnegative happened regarding the
podcast, but it felt like I wasattacking myself, as if someone
external of the podcast was likethis is shit, this is bullshit,
you shouldn't be doing it.
But it was all coming inside mybrain, yeah, which is not great
leading up to the crossoverepisode.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
We did record an episode where about this topic,
about your vice, that we justkind of stopped recording
because it just kind of got tooheavy, but I feel like it's
something that we could shareeventually with listeners on a
Patreon or something like that,if people are interested in
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hearing it.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
If people want to get in that hole with me, climb on
in, girl.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's not fun and lighthearted and we don't laugh
at all in it.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So but I think that people can.
That's where the people enjoyit, because they laugh, but then
they also feel connected andseen, and heard yeah, hooking up
in honey buckets, being inholes and self self-doubt, um,
but yeah, so that's my vice.
Is that that was a juicy one?
It was pretty juicy.
Yeah, so I'm, but we also wonthe first round of playoffs yeah
(40:41):
so my victory advice completecheck, check.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Okay, my victory of the week is that we are planning
a crossover episode with the nogays in montana, tyler and
isaac are no gays in montanathere are no gays in Montana,
but I just say the no gays inMontana, referring to the two of
them, ngim.
Their podcast is there Are noGays in Montana.
Anyways, if you haven'tlistened to their podcast,
listen to it.
It's fabulous.
(41:06):
Another gay duo, another gayduo, thank you, that talk about
queer-related topics and theyhave a really strong voice.
They have a lot to say and it'sa different perspective than
what we have.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I think it's a bit more polished.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Okay, you would think that it is Honestly it is you
kind of have a similar voice?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
To what In some ways more polished and more thought
out and more well-spoken.
And then here I come with acigarette like how y'all doing.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I've just been thinking about self-doubt a lot
lately.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Have you ever just like hated yourself when you
woke up?
Yeah anyway, so keep going yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
So I've just been like really like on this like
creative juice train that's kindof come from the crossover that
we is actually going to kind ofcome out in like two weeks, I
think.
Yeah, so stay tuned for thatepisode.
We're really excited.
And then my vice of the week isthat I ran into my ex at your
(42:08):
ex's, your ex's ex-husband'sbirthday party and it was
actually like really great tosee him and spend time with him
and we were just like crackingjokes, like old times and having
a lot of fun with you know abunch of our mutual friends.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
But then, like later in the night, I kind of got like
a a sad text from him and so Ijust felt like bad, that like
your presence made him feel thatway, like because you were your
wonderful self, and he probablyfelt like god, I missed this or
you know, and that brought,like you, did you, in your brain
(42:48):
.
Were you like, oh my god, itwas so much fun, but, oh my god,
I didn't.
I didn't want him to feel likethat.
I didn't want him like you,almost like getting flipping in
and out of the caretaker mode.
What are you processing it?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna like pretend like I know
what was going through his head.
That's fair, you know.
But I would agree with you that, like I, it's my advice because
like it was hard for me to likeshow up in such a positive way
and then have something negativecome out of it.
(43:19):
You know what I mean Cause.
That's not what I wanted.
Um, but we talked more aboutthis on the crossover episode
with the no gays in Montana, soyou can tune in to that episode
next week.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
That episode is going to be so juicy it is so juicy,
it is so juicy.
Yeah, and my.
I think my opinion on openmarriages changed because of it,
absolutely like a smidgen.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah spoiler alert.
We talk a lot about openrelationships on the crossover
opening legs, openingrelationships.
Yeah, sleeping with womenuh-huh everything, yeah, so
anyways, that's our podcast fortoday oh, my, this feels I'm so.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
First off, I'm so glad that we were both.
I was like oh god, and you werelike we got to record soon.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I was like, yeah we do because I knew I was going to
go down.
This hangover is going to kickin so we do want to hear from
you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Reach out to us zach, better be voting for kamala
harsh out for us.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
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um, and you can email us atunfamously unwell, and you can
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Or you can click that link atthe top of the description on
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to send us a text message and wewill read that and we want to
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Speaker 2 (44:38):
I want engagement, I want responses, I want comments,
because give us all thefeedback.
Yeah, yeah, say that we're shitor that we're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, our mixture of the both or that you like, the
no gays in montana more yeah, oh, my god, hot takes.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, we will not be offended, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Give us, give us all the juicy feedback.
So until next week we wish youwell.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Sorry, Zach.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Thanks for listening to another episode of Unfamously
Unwell, the unrated podcasthosted by your two favorite
Seattle homosexuals on a journeyto higher health.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Listen each week as we deep dive into a new topic
and give you all the dirtydetails of our successes and
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or share your own victoryadvice by writing to
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We'd love to hear from you andshare your stories on the pod.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
We'll see you back here next week for another
unhinged episode of UnfamouslyUnwell, unrated.
Good morning, mister.
You look like a bright-eyed andbushy-tailed right now.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Are you making fun?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Okay, yeah, I actually don't look as bad as I
thought I would when I looked inthe mirror.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You don't look as bad as you feel.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, because you don't look that well.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm doing it literally for the plot Kyle.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, and last night was a plot twist.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Honestly, the debriefing that needs to go down
.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah Well, we went to go see Tori Kelly last night
and, oh my gosh, it was so muchfun.
We were about a half hour latebecause we were at home singing
karaoke just by ourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But we hit some notes though.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, I would say it wasn't our best performance, but
we we were trying out newmaterial.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So you know, there's a learning curve yeah, and my
vocal coach hadn't gone overthose songs with me yet and that
would be me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yes, yeah, well, you gotta oh god, you gotta start
somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
That's where I was gonna say we're gonna have to
keep this episode juicy, so mybrain stays in it, yeah
absolutely.
Well, I just wanted to welcomeeveryone and say happy bottom
autumn, happy bottom autumn.
Today's the first day of autumn.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I mean, when this releases, it'll be like, oh,
actually a couple days from now,because we're behind.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, this is our second day in a row.
Two of three.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And we're recording again tomorrow.
Yeah, prepare to be sick of me?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I already am.
So do we?
Are we just gonna like recountour stories from last night
because it brings up severalgood topics yeah, I know, but
what would you say like?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
the theme is, if you like, recapped the whole evening
in your brain I think theunfamously unwell could be
summarized until last night.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The only thing that's missing is a toxic x.
That's the only category thatwas not checked.
Yeah, oh, let's.
I want us to go inchronological order okay, okay I
think that that's yeah so we'rerecording here.
We're gonna go to tori kellyand before you leave you're like
let's find the gays.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, right, yeah, yeah , yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We found the gang.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, we call an Uber .
Get in the car and the driveris like, are you guys together?
And we were like, no, we'reroommates, we're going to Tori
Kelly and he goes well, you gotyourself a gay driver tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
is there, lucky you, or something like that um, you
were like oh, does that mean wecan vape?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
and he was like only if I can we were like slay,
queen slay and I was even gonnaroll down the window, but
they're all child lock.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But then he's like oh my god, I love toy kelly,
couldn't.
He could not find a singlefucking song on his phone.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
No, I think he was just trying to flirt with us,
but I think he was also stonedas fuck.
As fuck like his car smelledlike cigarette smoke.
When I got in he said welcometo my vehicle.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You weren't there yet , but I'm gonna start telling
people that when I hook up withthem welcome to my vehicle in
the car kids get in oh my god,like a soccer mom.
How many can that van fit?
Well, apparently more than one.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So then we get to Miss Kelly.
Yes, we do, and we thought thatthere was going to be an opener
.
So we're like, okay, it startsat 8.30.
We'll get there at like nine.
Nope, she just kicked thingsoff and went right into a
million runs and we missed likeat least three or four songs,
right, we missed half the setlist.
Yeah, that's yeah, and the veryfirst song she does is my
(03:27):
favorite, yeah, and the new songthat I love diamond or diamonds
, what is?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Diamonds.
Yeah, missed that one.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was like that's like, that's like three fourths
of the way down, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Well, it's like a quarter of the way down diamonds
on that's so good.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Good, anyways, we love tori kelly.
Shout out to tori kelly, weshould tag her.
Yeah, and she that.
I don't know how someone couldjust like we'll be speaking or
like singing any, literally anynote and just start doing a run
on it and like the runs are justlike combinations of notes that
I could not even conceive in myhead, let alone perform and
it's not like on the spot, likeshe just makes it up.
I think uh, oh, that's becauseshe it was born to do that.
(04:10):
Yeah, I know you can just tell,but it's not like christina
aguilera just doing the samelike belty, like it's, it's her
falsetto.
It's her like super high pitchand then like low and she goes
everywhere yeba is, who is theonly other artist I've heard
that does that well.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I have like listened to some like reels or like
YouTube videos with her and herlike vocal coach who
specifically does runs and justlike makes up the like weirdest
combination of like notes togive her and then she does them
and just like blows my mindevery time.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And we had a hot take that her and Jessie J are
similar with the way they cancontrol their voice and put it
wherever the fuck they want.
Right, and can like hit a note,can like drag out a note.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But we also had a hot take that best vocalist.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Literally.
I think she's like I've seenAdele and you've seen Beyonce.
I've seen Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Christina Aguilera, Mariah I've seen all of these
girls Because it wasn't even forwow factor.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I didn't even see she was trying.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
To do that, on tour To do that.
There was also no backupdancers, there was just a
pianist and a drummer whoweren't even there for half the
show, like they showed up kindof at the end I think she did an
acoustic set yeah and when wearrived, yeah, and she, she
literally took two songs thatthe crowd picked and played them
(05:36):
, yeah, and sing them and like,so, like she had her repertoire
had to be, every song is apossibility.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah and I think it's just like in her
brain all the time for 30 we gotthese tickets yeah it was great
there was babies there therewere babies with headphones,
okay, and I also had my loop earearplugs in, yeah you got to
use them, I know, and they'respectacular you could actually
(06:03):
hear me better.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I could hear everything.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You heard me better than but it just brings down
those really loud sounds to anormal volume.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I should maybe invest in them, because my hearing is
going they're like $35.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
A bargain, do it.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Honestly, we spent more on drinks and Ubers last
night and that just ruins ourbody and that's protecting it.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Invest in future Caleb.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I did today by having my Baja Blast.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh good, you did think about your future self.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I had a Baja Blast last night.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You went to Taco Bell .
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I did no, but I'm not having a Baja Blast right now,
but I had a Baja blast right now.
But, like I had a Baja blastwith you last night, we had so
much fun, that's what I wasgetting at, so Clever.
Then the show ends and we'relike okay, let's go to the hill.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Because we're still looking for the gays.
Yeah, like our Uber driver,that wasn't enough.
Well, and also the crowd at aTori Kelly concert not super gay
, it's a lot of like um suburbanstraight couples.
I say there were a lot of likestraight couples, kind of in
(07:11):
their like 20s and 30s with alittle like religious undertones
.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
yes, but the girls who brought their straight
boyfriend christian but alsolow-key.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
High-key have good taste yes, because our girl next
to me clearly was singing everyno and like had.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh, she was so good too.
I'm glad I couldn't hear that,because I had my earplugs in so
then we go to get in the uber,but we walk a little bit and
then you're like I'll have to gopee lo and behold.
Guess what we find a honeybucket and then you swing open,
that I'm like, wait, let me takeyour photo.
I took your photo, I'll post onthe internet.
No, um.
And then you swing open thatI'm like, wait, let me take your
photo.
I took your photo, I'll post iton the internet.
No, and then you open the doorand you're like, oh, absolutely
(07:47):
not.
I'm like Kyle, don't bedramatic.
So you're pissing outside of it.
I'm like, don't be dramatic,I'll go in there.
I've never seen a honey bucketso full.
I just full it was.
And I'm like don't be dramatic.
So then I'm like just breathethrough your mouth.
I go in there.
He's dry heaving literally.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, I'm like pissing on the outside of it.
I was like I'm glad I didn't goin you.
You were in there for a littlebit well, I had to.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
My bladder was held.
Yeah, yeah, it was, I had torelease it.
Yeah, then we finally get anuber to the hill.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yep, capital hill we are.
We get gayborhood in seattle,oh yes, but we go.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm like you're like, where do we want to go?
I'm like I want to go to queerbar.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's why I want to dance then we forget that's not
what I said.
That's not what I said.
I said that, yeah, okay,because I want to dance yeah,
but I kept we.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I got all the way there and I forgot that it was
only 10 pm correct, yeah, sowhere do we go?
There's still a drag show goingon.
We go to mount joyce, rightnext to it, yep, a little
restaurant and I got a kid'smeal and I got some celery
sticks and the baby apple juice.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I was like, do you want a chicken strip?
And he's like, no, I'm, I'mjust gonna have this piece of
celery.
I was like, oh yeah, becauseyou're bottoming tonight I
couldn't I know she's toxic.
Yeah, I ate all the chicken.
It's all good.
And was it good?
It was really really good,actually, yeah, actually,
factually.
Could have used more ranch, butyeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I did one time after drinking, go and get a milkshake
there.
I wish they had bettermilkshake options, because it
was like weird combinations.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like, almost like if you went to like a smoothie
place and like they put likecollagen in it or some shit.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, no, you don't want a healthy milkshake when
you want a healthy smoothie oryou want to be bad and you get a
milkshake a strawberrycheesecake milkshake.
I'm gonna give them feedback.
They should do that, yeah ifthey're looking for feedback I
just go to dq.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Get yourself a blizzard so they they dip it
upside down, but then youremember those like sticks that
make that noise.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You turn upside down.
Yes, wait, that was pretty good, right, yeah, yeah so maybe
I'll stick the grinder.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You step for that.
Um, so then we do pay to go in.
There's still a drag show.
We're like it's too early forthis.
We go to union union.
We're classy bitches.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I get a glass of wine , you get a ipr, ipa, ipr, irl
um international personal recordand you get your ipr and, like
most makeouts, in one night it'smy ipr oh no, I got an ipa up
here my brain.
I try to act so interested.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, that's right um and we're not there very long,
like we're like chugging, wehave one drink.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We just do like a fruit loop, which, if you don't
know what a fruit loop is, it'swhere you and your friend go
around the entire bar and youjust like check for cute fruits.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, your eyes are peeled, you're looking, but
you're not making it known thatyou're looking.
Yeah.
You're walking with intentionand you're just like casually
and like, oh my gosh, you justsaid something so funny like I'm
just gonna laugh meanwhile do.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
They know that we're just crop testing everyone.
Okay.
Also, you know, we should tryone time what um.
Chicken got through you girlokay, like you go around the bar
going in one direction and I goaround the bar in the other
direction and we just like tappeople and be like have you seen
my friend caleb?
This is what he looks like, youknow.
(11:14):
Blah, blah, blah.
He's like on a podcast, blah,blah, blah.
And then of course, everyone'slike no, I don't know who your
friend caleb is or what he lookslike, you know.
But then we like meet back upin the middle and then we go
back around the whole bartogether and tell everyone hey
look, I found my friend Caleb.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
What I love is when we do meet back in the middle.
We make it a scene.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
There he is, there, there you are.
And then everyone turns aroundand looks and then I'm like
running looks yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And then I'm like running, you do a little lift,
there's no music playing,probably.
And then I'm like oh, my god,I've been looking for you and
then we don't go around.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, yeah, like make a scene and and then everyone
will, at the end of the night,will be like do?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
you remember?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
the that guy that was looking for his friend caleb
what was the name of thatpodcast?
Again, yeah, done that's gonnabe that's called gorilla
marketing honey that is our molike.
Oh, how's your day going.
It's good because of my podcastand unwell we are yeah but I
love this bit.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, me too okay so then, while we're, you were
going to tell the story like, dowe tell him?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
we tell him, tell him , oh, biblically man well, caleb
um points out this like reallypretty girl, and he's yeah,
she's talking to someone andtheir back is turned to us, and
so I walk up to her and justgive her a compliment and let
her know that her fashion is onpoint.
Her beat is amazing pulsatingyeah, and, and then the person
(12:39):
that she's talking to turnsaround and I'm like oh hi, I
know you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We like had sex after um hannah montana, were you
stealing her skirt then?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
no, I had gotten rid of the skirt at that point wow,
those skirts really did a numberfor us, yeah, and then she
starts interrogating us, beinglike, oh, how do you know each
other?
I'm like, oh, intimately.
And then she's like what doesthat mean?
I'm like biblically, like how,how more obvious do I need it?
And you could tell.
Then she's like, what does thatmean?
I'm like biblically, like how,how more obvious do I need it?
and you can tell the guy waslike I know he's like okay, that
was like at three o'clock inthe morning, yeah meanwhile it's
(13:13):
still 10 pm.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, it's too early to be reliving that.
Yeah, experience, but justimagine how he was like wow,
you're probably way moreattractive than I remember.
You know, because usually it'sthe opposite, like if you go
with someone, he probably wasthinking that he was like wow,
you're probably way moreattractive than I remember you
know, because usually it's theopposite, like if you go with
someone, he probably wasthinking that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He was like wow, you know, I scored that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm gonna go with that narrative, yeah so then we
finish our drinks, yep, and thenwe go back to queer bar, but on
the way there something happensI'm just now it's all flooding
back to me, the dead mom of itall.
So we're walking, which?
What is like a few blocks.
Spoiler alert a few blocks yeah, it's like three or four blocks
(13:51):
or something so by now it'slike 10, 30, 10, 45 and I'm like
we are walking down thesidewalk and this man is in the
bush there's a man just likepassed out like on his back
which I'm like thinking uh, thisperson could like throw up and
aspirate and die, and then you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm like kyle we have to stop yeah, yeah, you were
like we need to stop.
And then my first thought wasyou're a nurse, so like this is
a good person to like check onthis um other, this guy passed
out in the bushes with.
And so we get down on our kneesin the bush with him and just
(14:29):
kind of like tap him and are youokay?
What did you ask him?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I said hey, can you wake up for me, can you wake up?
He's like I'm fine and I waslike no, you're not.
I said open your eyes, let usjust chat yeah and I said are
you here with someone where,like we like, I'm just trying to
assess the scene?
To make sure he's safe, Becausehe had blood on his knee that
was not his blood Right and Ikept pointing it out.
I was like whose blood is?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
that you kept whispering it to me.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm like, whose blood is that?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But he's like really just out of it, like barely
awake, barely conscious At thebeginning Definitely like
completely blackout, like didn'tknow where he was or how he got
there.
And so we started asking him,like, do you have a phone?
Like uh, can we call someone?
Can we get you an uber back toyour house?
What's your address?
And and you patted him down Idid to like make sure he did
(15:18):
give you consent.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He lifted his butt yeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
He did um good butt honestly, oh my god, he was a
little cutie but he didn't.
He didn't have a phone, hedidn't have a wallet no, keys no
keys and I think, like once herealized that he didn't have any
of those things, he was like ohfuck because it kind of kind of
clicked like I'm.
I'm in a bush, I'm not surewhere, but there's a bunch of
(15:41):
people like out and about and Icould tell that he started like
getting worried, you know, likenot, I wouldn't say like
panicked, but he was definitelylike oh fuck, like where am I?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I think you asked him have you had a lot to drink
tonight?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
and that's when he tells us his mom died the day
before yeah so meanwhile, then Igrabbed his hand and I was like
almost in tears because I waslike, oh fuck, like you are
dealing with some shit andyou're probably, you know, on a
fucking bender and just tryingto like numb the pain of your
mom fucking passing what I lovedis we gave there was like this,
(16:17):
like almost moment of silence,like acknowledging it was like
we're really sorry.
Like we were so genuine likewith him.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We were just so like.
That's really tough.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I just wanted to help him yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So then anyways.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
he had no phone, no wallet.
His mom died, Heidi was hername yeah.
Yesterday and he didn't knowwhere he was.
He didn't know where hisfriends were or what bar he was
at.
So I was like what's youraddress?
We'll just call Uber for you.
And he gives us this address.
First off, he changed it.
Oh yeah, I mean it took us awhile just to get the numbers
(16:53):
and the street name.
The address is in Camino Island, it's like it's 159 uber uh-huh
.
And we were like okay, Ithought you said you lived like
12 blocks away from here.
Well, the math wasn't mathing,um.
So then I was like okay, do youremember anyone's phone number?
(17:14):
And he was like oh my, maybe mybrother, my brother.
I was like what's yourbrother's name?
He gave me his name and then hestarted like typing in the
phone number and it started witha zero and you kept like no,
that can't be it.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
No, this is it.
And he even said out loud zero,yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And you're like no, no, I was like it can't start
with a zero.
I can't maybe they do itdifferently on camino island
dude I'm trying to help youright now and this is not
working.
So then I was like okay, youtold me your brother's name, I'm
gonna find him on instagram andthen we'll call him through the
instagram feature.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Couldn't find him on instagram no, and you don't have
it on your phone.
No, so then we take the phonefrom him that he's trying to
dial because it's mine and giveit to you to try to find.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, he's not, he doesn't exist, no so then we
finally get him up because wesee like cop cars driving by and
we're like okay, dude, eitheryou need to get in the cop car
and like go to a hospital, oryou need to like get up and
avoid being arrested.
So, anyways, we walked with himto a street food stand, got him
(18:25):
a bottle of water, he kepttelling us I'm not gay, but I
love curly hair.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And there was this boy and I even apologized once
for him.
I said, hey, we don't reallyknow this guy, we're just trying
to help him out.
I'm sorry, because he wasalmost falling into him.
And then he's like oh, likeit's okay few minutes pass, then
he goes and does it again andwe've invested time in this man
and, like, we gave it the oldcollege try.
Yeah, we tried our best.
(18:51):
We had no other options but togo to career bar yeah, without
him.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah.
So he was up and standing anddoing a lot better and as I was
partying and he was like sayingthat he's not gay, I was like,
but remember tonight that twogay guys took care of you and
made sure you didn't getarrested and got you water and
vote.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Kamala harris 2024 you sure the fuck did, yeah, and
meanwhile, this is all next towild rose and everyone in that
line is looking at us.
Oh yeah, because for one.
He was attractive to fallingeverywhere yeah, he was
attractive.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And fucking caleb, it keeps like whispering don't
kiss him.
Don't kiss him when he set up,when he set up.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
he was very like he was looking for, like maybe it's
because his mom was dying orwhatever.
Like that connecting, like Icould tell, like he was going to
like.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, well, I was not about to kiss him, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I felt like he was going to try.
I was just letting oh okay.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, not that you're a shitty.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You're not a shitty enough human Like hi?
Stranger on the street.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You mom died.
Let's make out.
Can you imagine you're toxic,but not that bad?
Yeah, no, no, I'm not.
Oh, that's not one of my toxictraits no, but um what were you?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
you were telling me upstairs um the psychology of
something oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So that kind of um brought me to thinking about.
At least what I woke up thismorning thinking about was that
most people walk by like there'sprobably hundreds of people on
that street and walked by thisdude and did not stop and check
on him.
And there's this theory inpsychology that's called the
bystander effect, and it wascreated in the 80s and
(20:33):
researched in the 80s when thisincident happened in New York.
This woman her name was KittyGenovese, I think is her name
and she lived in this apartmentbuilding that had a courtyard in
the middle, and so there's allthese apartments in these
(20:55):
high-rise buildings that looktheir windows face down into
this courtyard, and she wasraped in the courtyard.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, we didn't go all the way into this detail.
My attention is caught.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
She was raped in the courtyard screaming for help,
and people were looking down atthis like act of violence and
did nothing.
Not only did she get raped, butthen the attacker left.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And got away.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Came back hours later , raped her again and then
killed her.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I was not emotionally ready for that right now.
Oh my God, wait, I'm feelinglike shaky.
I was not emotionally ready forthat right now.
Oh my God, wait, I'm feelinglike shaky.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I know.
Okay, so this like horrificthing that happened made a lot
of psychology researchers wonderwhy did no one do anything?
You know, there's all thesepeople like literally watching
this thing happen, and what isit about humans that think that
(22:03):
they don't need to act whenanother person is in need?
And so basically, all thisresearch found that when there
is a dispersion ofresponsibility, everyone thinks
that someone else is going tostep in and do something.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
We're both so action oriented.
They're like, yeah, weimmediately try to take and I
will all.
I've done it many times ifthere's someone passed out like
I will always stop to make surethey're okay.
But I never thought of it like.
I'm like oh, that is myresponsibility as a human but
like you're saying that mostpeople like, like, not my
problem, someone else is goingto do it for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Take care of them right and, like you know,
hundreds of people walked bythis guy that's passed out in a
bush and didn't do anything.
And so, like you really have tobe like aware of like these
psychological phenomena thatlike affect all of us, that,
unless you know about them, youknow, you don't realize that
(22:57):
like they're happening, you knowall around us and that they do
affect like the actions that wetake or don't take, and so it's
called the bystander effect,because people just assume that,
like, they're bystanders andthey don't need to take, you
know, responsibility and thatsomeone, someone else will step
(23:18):
in and do the right thing, orthat there's police or
paramedics or whatever and it'stheir job to do it.
But it's really like we, as acollective community, we need to
be taking care of each otherand all it takes is a phone call
(23:38):
to get support to people whoneed it.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So I want to touch on that real quick because if you
think I'm in my brain gettingenraged or pissed off, because,
imagine someone's out herelighting fireworks.
Every single human around iscalling 9-1-1 instead of just
being like oh I know, someoneelse is probably going to call
yeah they're because it'sinterrupting their life.
But even not even on the samewavelength, someone else's life
(24:03):
is being interrupted or they'regoing through it or something
bad is happening and they'relike, oh, someone else will take
care of it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like that comparison I know it's kind of extreme one
side to the other, but it's in away similar well, it just makes
me feel like people are selfish, like with that example, you
know, it's like, oh well, whenit's loud and something's
affecting me, then I'm going todo something about it, but when
it's someone passed out in abush that needs help but that's
not affecting me, then I'm justgoing to walk along.
(24:30):
You know, on my way and I thinkthat, like for me, I try to
always stop and I felt reallysafe doing it with you because
you're a nurse and if there waslike a problem you would know
what to do, right.
But it doesn't always turn outlike the way that it did last
night, because I have been inlike situations where I, you
(24:52):
know, checked on someone that itwas like a unhoused person and
they were clearly like onsomething.
And just to give everyone likea little bit of backstory, my
brother has schizophrenia and soI've like grown up around like
mental illness, so, like when Isee someone who is in a state of
(25:16):
mental unwellness, it's like myknee jerk reaction to like make
sure that they're okay.
Because I feel like there'sthis perception that people who
are mentally like, have mentalillness, are scary and violent
and like that's not always thecase.
However, this one person thatI'm talking about in particular
outside of Azelle in the centraldistrict love me some azales
(25:38):
fried chicken.
Um, he was like on meth orsomething and he like started
like running at me and startedscreaming at me and telling me
that his um, that I slept withhis wife and or something.
And he was like you fuck my, youfuck my wife and literally
chased me like out into thestreet and like the cars stopped
(26:02):
on like Cherry and 23rd, sothat I could pass, and this big
black guy in this huge truck gotout of his car in the middle of
traffic to like yell at thiscrazy person that was chasing
after me and when I turned myback, to like get away from him.
I don't know if he like punchedme in the back or kicked me in
(26:24):
the back, but you know itdoesn't always go well.
So I'm just saying that as likea tale of caution that you
don't always have to like be theperson to check to make sure
that the people around you are,you know, doing okay or like not
(26:44):
going to die in a bush, but youcan also step up when the
circumstances are right and youhave someone like caleb, who's a
nurse who, like can support youin like making those decisions
you know, and or you can do itfrom like afar and you can, you
know, call a non-emergencyhotline and explain what's going
(27:05):
on.
But the moral of the story islike you should do something
take an action.
Doesn't matter what it is, justdo something and not think that
someone else is going to do it,because chances are they're not.
And that's why I bring up theyou know story or a story and
like talk about the bystandereffect, because it's been proven
(27:26):
, like in psychology, thatpeople do not take action which
is so crazy that I canunderstand.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I could see that, but like I've never not felt the
urge to just do something forsomeone like I even remember,
like someone was vomiting at theconcert we went to and I was
like well, can someone get her atowel or this?
so I went to the bar.
But I went, I was at the cuffone time and this guy's vomiting
on the patio and it'severyone's bitching because it's
(27:52):
like getting on their shoes,and I take him to the bathroom,
I help him get cleaned up and Ibring like a handful of paper
towels out to people.
Yeah, I'm like hey, sorry, Ithink they were just really sick
.
They're like oh, is that yourfriend?
I was like I don't know thatperson yeah but I always just
felt like I just want to helptake care of people, which it
makes sense why I'm a nurse.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
But yeah, how do you feel that way?
I don't know?
You can also like, instead ofrolling your eyes, you can also
like, go to the bartender and belike, hey, can you like get
someone to help?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
it doesn't show the best side of humanity when
things like this happen.
Like it made me feel, but italso made me feel really
connected to you, because I waslike you're such a good human
and we both, like, were like, ohmy god, yes, of course we'll do
, instead of being like come on,leave him, leave him alone,
let's go.
We have this plan, we're gonnado this.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean, I was.
I was about to be like okay, wecan't like handle this, until
he was like my mom diedyesterday, and then I was like
fuck, I'm like emotionally innow right, yeah, but kyle, do
you know, like he probablydoesn't remember us because he
was, not at all, no way, yeah,it's so.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I hope he remembers to vote for kamala harris right
but it's so small moments that,like, make me just so happy to
be alive, in a way of like beingable just to connect with
humans and take care of them andlove on them, and like we're
strangers.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We'll probably never see that man again, but we were
there to support him, likeliterally the day after the
hardest day of his life yeah,that's what I wanted to say yes
I feel like we started reallylight and then we got really
heavy, but we'll bring it backaround so then we are finally go
into queer bar because we hadgotten stamped finally went back
(29:29):
into queer bar.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, yes, and we get drinks and then we go to the
dance floor and I'm shaking ass.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Throwing all kinds of ass.
Yep, having the best timeYou're whacking, you're spinning
, you're twirling.
It is Bachelorette Central.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We've done a couple lifts, yeah.
Oh my God, that one was so funwhen I did almost like a back
bend to touch the ground and Iwas so confident and I was so
calm, did I even ask you don'ttell you not to drop me?
You did one time yeah is itlike the first?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think so.
Then after that I was like oh,he got it, yeah, yeah he got it
girl and I had on this cutesytop yeah, took off the sleeves.
I was like couldn't be bothered.
Then I was like, kyle, youstill have your shirt on and
I'll take off mine.
But then you're like, okay,let's go.
Or I'm like, okay, just give mea few more minutes.
Like just to dance, 30 minutesprobably, I'm still out there
(30:20):
and then I come to find you um,where the wild things are.
Guy he had there was this bison.
Like what would you call it ahat?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
yeah, like uh toboggan was that what they're
called?
This toboggan is a sled.
I don't we.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I've been through this with these canadians around
hereabagin's back home.
That's what we called the knitheadwear.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, it's like a fur hat almost.
Yeah, yeah with the earcoverings.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But this one was where the wild things are from
that story with the little ears.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Not the crown, though , the horns, not ears.
Yeah, horns.
Um, you're out there talking tohim and there was something
juicy that was going down.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh, he just like said that he like intentionally
followed me out to the patio andthought that I was really cute.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And then I turned to him and I was like so what's the
name of, like the guy in yourgroup in the white shirt?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
that's really cute and I'm over here encouraging.
I was like, oh, he's cute, goahead.
And you're like, no, caleb, no.
And I'm like, do it.
I'm not gonna make out with theguy in the where the wild
things are toboggan, but he likeit's, it's a little like it's
so, like it's a touch of quirky,that like I'm yeah, I'm
intrigued.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, what did you send me?
I?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
know you, you love a um a frog, frog prince can I
read this what it says?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
yes, absolutely.
Where did you find this again?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
the daily scam.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's like my daily like email newsletter that I get
with all of my fun facts so,whether you find it amusing or
absolutely baffling, we're hereto report that the bewildering
internet trend of using animalkingdom as a mean to categorize
men is still going strong.
And while we were willing toget on board with
eager-to-please golden retrieverboyfriends not to be confused
with Rottweiler boyfriends,German Shepherd boyfriends or
(32:11):
Doberman- boyfriends we fear theanimal classification has
officially gone too far.
Enter Caleb's type, enter thefrog prince.
Now to be clear, frog princesare neither amphibians or royals
.
Rather, according to one writer, they're sexy men with unusual
features like wide-set eyes,goofy smiles a la Harry.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Styles.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Rami Malek Dominic Cooper.
At first I was like, oh my God,how did that get in here?
That's supposedly different, uh, from the aforementioned rodent
men.
But honestly, we can't attackuh, exactly tell you how.
As far as we're concerned, allwe see are squints, famous men.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I don't get that like a little squint and emoji would
have been helpful.
Yeah, but I love the idea of ityeah you do love a little like
yeah, weird, something weird.
You know like really pretty,but something weird going on and
like very specific, like skinnyusually they're kind of like
(33:12):
how tall?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I don't have a tall.
I don't have a height thingokay, taller than you, same or
higher okay, usually I don'thave a tall.
I don't have a height thingOkay, taller than you, same or
higher Okay, usually.
I don't care if they're shorterthan me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Remember I was like when we went to Queer Power I
was like I just want to pick thetallest person in the club and
make out with them, and thensomeone walked in that was like
6'6 or 6'7, but I was likewhat's it called?
Like they almost had likegiganticism is that?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
is that the word no, um, giant nope, like their human
growth hormone is through theroof right yeah.
So I was like no, maybe not Ido like a disproportion a little
bit yeah, you do yeah, okay,I'm there, I'm following, but
was that man?
Did you, didn't you retractyour?
Oh, I don't want.
I want to make out with thetallest man because you're like,
(33:59):
okay, he's the tallest, but nothim Exactly.
Yeah, you know what?
I take it back, I take it backmy goal, my storyline, my plot
for the night is changing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's my prerogative to change my mind as a woman.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Prerog of it.
All.
Other than that, it was apretty tame night, yeah, I mean,
other than like the honeybucket and you running into
someone you had slept with aftera hannah montana when you were
in a skirt.
Um, my god, what a like to thepoint episode I know I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, caleb, why don't you give us your victory
advice of the week?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
okay, I on my paper here, victory, I'm gonna wing it
okay.
Well, let's just first say thispast week has been a great week
of us, like sharing and gettingthe news out about the podcast.
Oh yeah, because you did sowell about initiating
conversation about it were andthen people were like very
inquisitive and so thursdaywhich maybe that'll be my
(34:56):
victory that we won the firstround of playoffs.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, our pickleball team won our first playoff match
.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So that means we go on to the next yeah, we go on to
next week.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, can you believe it.
I was so excited.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Literally after we got the match point, I jumped
into Matt's arms and he caughtme, thank God.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Like you, just won Olympic gold.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, absolutely, and what I love is like and we were
working for it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I, but you could just feel like everyone's intensity
in the gym was like turned on Ahundred percent.
But it was also so nice that wegot there kind of an hour.
We got there an hour earlybecause, accidentally and we got
to watch everyone else play andyou could just tell everyone's
intensity was leveled up mm-hmmand it was like it was fun.
Yeah, everyone was in it.
Yeah, we were having fun, wewere being competitive.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
But and just mingling , and I think the point that you
were trying to make was that wewent out to a bar after we won
our playoff match and maybebecause we were like riding the
high of our playoff win, we weretalking up the podcast a lot.
Yeah, and we have a ton of newlisteners.
We do and people were followingand interacting with the posts
(36:04):
and stuff and thank you all forlistening and continue to tune
in, and for all of our newlisteners out there.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
But you had mentioned to and I think it was like a
funny joke, you had mentioned tothe bald man there that we were
like he asked like maybe likewhat did he ask?
That caused you to say no, hewas not in a good mood, so we
couldn't record last night Like,did he ask?
Like oh, when do you usuallyrecord?
And were you like, oh, usuallyWednesdays, but last night we
didn't be like how did it?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
how did he forget how it came up?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I, because then he was like you should share that,
like if you're in a bad mood orwhatever.
I was like I, I told him, Isaid we really sat down and
tried and I said, and I'm was sowilling to share it, it just
was so in the moment that Icouldn't get to a storyline when
we were recording wednesday youwere just like in a bad
headspace for whatever reasonand kind of like in this.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
How would you describe it like?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
so doubt, almost, yeah because that's what we're
going to try to do the topic onso, but I only mentioned
thursday night.
Well, my victory.
But it also ties into himsaying well, you should share
that and which has been our.
We've done this.
The whole time on the podcastis like we give people a peek
behind the curtains, not justlike the you know, princess step
version right, yeah and I knewI wanted to share.
(37:22):
That's why I kept trying torecord that night.
But the reason I was in thatheadspace is we had a phenomenal
like we were.
We've been together like almostevery single day for like the
last few weeks I'm sick of you Iknow truly, um, but the weekend
, but um, leading into this pastweek.
So, like last weekend, into thispast week, we had done a lot of
podcast sharing, we had mingledwith new friends, we were
(37:44):
talking a lot about it, we weregetting so much positive
feedback that we were on thishigh.
And then, come Wednesday, Iwoke up with so much self-doubt.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Is this your vice now ?
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's where it initially started.
I was like, oh, my victory canjust be pickleball vice now,
yeah, okay, that's where itinitially started I was like, oh
, my victory can just bepickleball, yeah, so it ties all
together.
But I woke up with so much doubtand and I was sharing it with
you, because you came home andyou were still feeling like this
, like excited to record, andall of these- things yeah and I
just had this worst feeling ofimposter syndrome, yeah, and I
was like people were black andwhite, telling us how good it is
(38:17):
and how much they're enjoyingand how like I don't know, like
it's great feedback we weregetting.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And then like you just kept telling me, like I
just don't believe it, and I waslike caleb you've gotten like
all these like data points thatare telling you one thing that
people are are you know, theylove you and they love your
voice and they are loving ourpodcast and the phone case that
you made me and you know all ofthese positive things, but for
some reason you don't believe ityeah, and it was like I
(38:46):
remember we were just sittinghere and then, like it just
brought on a whole nother waveof emotions about like
everything.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
But it's so like perplexing my brain because you,
you, you really did help thatnight.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I told you like that's not helping, like
sometimes but it did helpbecause you know, you knowing
better than you knowing betterthan me.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Interesting okay um, but I'm glad thank you first off
for being there for me, but Iwanted just to share that I do
appreciate all the positivefeedback and and I and we want
to hear from you.
Yes, and it's, but it's, it isand I'm just being genuine, and
I'm sure other people feel thatway it's like oh, I don't
believe, yeah, that I should bedoing this or I have a voice, or
that I am good at it, or peoplelike me, or whatever.
(39:29):
Um, so that's my advice is thatI don't let the self-doubt creep
in yeah, because nothingnegative happened regarding the
podcast, but it felt like I wasattacking myself, as if someone
external of the podcast was likethis is shit, this is bullshit,
you shouldn't be doing it.
But it was all coming inside mybrain, yeah, which is not great
leading up to the crossoverepisode.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
We did record an episode where about this topic,
about your vice, that we justkind of stopped recording
because it just kind of got tooheavy, but I feel like it's
something that we could shareeventually with listeners on a
Patreon or something like that,if people are interested in
(40:11):
hearing it.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
If people want to get in that hole with me, climb on
in, girl.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's not fun and lighthearted and we don't laugh
at all in it.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So but I think that people can.
That's where the people enjoyit, because they laugh, but then
they also feel connected andseen, and heard yeah, hooking up
in honey buckets, being inholes and self self-doubt, um,
but yeah, so that's my vice.
Is that that was a juicy one?
It was pretty juicy.
Yeah, so I'm, but we also wonthe first round of playoffs yeah
(40:41):
so my victory advice completecheck, check.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Okay, my victory of the week is that we are planning
a crossover episode with the nogays in montana, tyler and
isaac are no gays in montanathere are no gays in Montana,
but I just say the no gays inMontana, referring to the two of
them, ngim.
Their podcast is there Are noGays in Montana.
Anyways, if you haven'tlistened to their podcast,
listen to it.
It's fabulous.
(41:06):
Another gay duo, another gayduo, thank you, that talk about
queer-related topics and theyhave a really strong voice.
They have a lot to say and it'sa different perspective than
what we have.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I think it's a bit more polished.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Okay, you would think that it is Honestly it is you
kind of have a similar voice?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
To what In some ways more polished and more thought
out and more well-spoken.
And then here I come with acigarette like how y'all doing.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I've just been thinking about self-doubt a lot
lately.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Have you ever just like hated yourself when you
woke up?
Yeah anyway, so keep going yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
So I've just been like really like on this like
creative juice train that's kindof come from the crossover that
we is actually going to kind ofcome out in like two weeks, I
think.
Yeah, so stay tuned for thatepisode.
We're really excited.
And then my vice of the week isthat I ran into my ex at your
(42:08):
ex's, your ex's ex-husband'sbirthday party and it was
actually like really great tosee him and spend time with him
and we were just like crackingjokes, like old times and having
a lot of fun with you know abunch of our mutual friends.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
But then, like later in the night, I kind of got like
a a sad text from him and so Ijust felt like bad, that like
your presence made him feel thatway, like because you were your
wonderful self, and he probablyfelt like god, I missed this or
you know, and that brought,like you, did you, in your brain
(42:48):
.
Were you like, oh my god, itwas so much fun, but, oh my god,
I didn't.
I didn't want him to feel likethat.
I didn't want him like you,almost like getting flipping in
and out of the caretaker mode.
What are you processing it?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna like pretend like I know
what was going through his head.
That's fair, you know.
But I would agree with you that, like I, it's my advice because
like it was hard for me to likeshow up in such a positive way
and then have something negativecome out of it.
(43:19):
You know what I mean Cause.
That's not what I wanted.
Um, but we talked more aboutthis on the crossover episode
with the no gays in Montana, soyou can tune in to that episode
next week.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
That episode is going to be so juicy it is so juicy,
it is so juicy.
Yeah, and my.
I think my opinion on openmarriages changed because of it,
absolutely like a smidgen.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah spoiler alert.
We talk a lot about openrelationships on the crossover
opening legs, openingrelationships.
Yeah, sleeping with womenuh-huh everything, yeah, so
anyways, that's our podcast fortoday oh, my, this feels I'm so.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
First off, I'm so glad that we were both.
I was like oh god, and you werelike we got to record soon.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I was like, yeah we do because I knew I was going to
go down.
This hangover is going to kickin so we do want to hear from
you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Reach out to us zach, better be voting for kamala
harsh out for us.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
You can follow us on instagram at unfamously unwell,
um, and you can email us atunfamously unwell, and you can
email us at unfamouslyunwell atgmailcom.
Or you can click that link atthe top of the description on
spotify or apple music whenyou're listening to the podcast
to send us a text message and wewill read that and we want to
hear about your victories andvices and don't be a fake fan.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I want engagement, I want responses, I want comments,
because give us all thefeedback.
Yeah, yeah, say that we're shitor that we're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, our mixture of the both or that you like, the
no gays in montana more yeah, oh, my god, hot takes.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, we will not be offended, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Give us, give us all the juicy feedback.
So until next week we wish youwell.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Sorry, Zach.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Thanks for listening to another episode of Unfamously
Unwell, the unrated podcasthosted by your two favorite
Seattle homosexuals on a journeyto higher health.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Listen each week as we deep dive into a new topic
and give you all the dirtydetails of our successes and
failures along the way you cansend us your questions, feedback
or share your own victoryadvice by writing to
unfamouslyunwell at gmailcom orby clicking the link at the
bottom of the description toshoot us a text.
We'd love to hear from you andshare your stories on the pod.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
We'll see you back here next week for another
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