May 14, 2025 • 58 mins
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What happens when two social drinkers ditch alcohol for a week and try every trendy alternative on the market? From $80 mushroom-infused sparkling waters to THC-laced "spirits," we embarked on a quest to find something—anything—that could replicate the social ease of alcohol without the next-day regrets.
The results were surprising. While most expensive alternatives left us unimpressed (and occasionally with upset stomachs), one unexpected winner emerged: functional mushroom gummies that somehow eliminated social anxiety without any mental fog. As we sipped, sampled, and scrutinized each product, we uncovered something deeper about our relationship with alcohol and why we drink in the first place.
Our experiment coincides with growing cultural shifts—38% of American adults now completely abstain from alcohol, according to recent research. This isn't just about health; it's about questioning rituals we've taken for granted. Why do we accept alcohol's downsides while rejecting alternatives for minor flaws? The cognitive dissonance is real, and we're here to talk about it.
Whether you're sober curious, looking to cut back, or just interested in the science behind functional mushrooms and their effects on the brain, this episode offers honest insights without judgment. We break down prices, ingredients, effects, and which products might actually be worth your money.
Have you tried alcohol alternatives? We'd love to hear about your experiences! Connect with us at unfamouslyunwell@gmail.com or slide into our DMs on Instagram @unfamouslyunwell with your thoughts or suggestions for future topics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I feel like I've done so many social activities which
is way more than I have a lotof the month of, like March or
February.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know, what happened to me is like one week
I didn't have any like socialengagements planned, and then
the next week I was like youknow what I'm going to like say
yes to more things.
And then last week, everysingle day I had something.
It was like either happy hourwith someone after work, or
pickleball, or a date, or Idon't know what.
(00:31):
But all of a sudden it was likeit went from zero to 100.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, well, last week , I think, we both did something
every night and then, by thetime, I got to Friday I was like
, oh, what are you doing?
You said nothing, Absolutelynothing.
And then my friend Mark cameover and Friday I was like, oh,
what are you doing?
You said nothing, Absolutelynothing.
And then my friend Mark cameover and we watched RuPaul's
Drag Race.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh my gosh, Season.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
well, whatever it is All-star season 10?
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
There's no way.
There's no way.
There's 10 all-star seasons.
You think there's less?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
or more.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I think there's less, but I really don't know.
We are in season 10, wow okay.
But I I'm so glad, other thanthem putting it on another
fucking streaming platform.
I'm so glad they switched up,kind of like what is what?
Would you call it?
Not the bracket, because that'swhat it is now yeah, kind of
like the format there's sixqueens right in three different
categories, and then eachcategory competes against each
other and only top three fromeach go, but there's 18 queens.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I feel like that's why they were like we want to
cast more people, and usually inAll Stars they don't eliminate
anyone ever.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh yeah, because they did that for charity yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Because they're not doing this time?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Was that their first time doing where, like Queen St,
gets at home?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, because it was like legendary legend.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
badges no the beautiful benefactress badge.
Oh yeah, that's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Legendary legend badges.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't know, but this season they're getting
$200,000.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, they did last season too.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, but that's a normal season I shared this
thing on social media.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It was about the new Pope will win a year's supply of
Anasazi, beverly Hills and$200,000.
Because, this is the first Popefrom the US right.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, ever, or just in like a hot minute, I think
ever Wait.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Really, I think ever Wait really I think so.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So there's not like geographical requirements, like,
does he live there now inEurope?
Yes, he lives at the Vatican,the Pope lives at the Vatican.
Was he living here, like whenhe found out?
Like, was it like a no bitch?
Have you seen Conclave?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, what's that A movie?
Yeah, it's a movie.
Have you seen Conclave?
No, what's that A movie?
Yeah, it's a movie.
It's about how they're choosingthe next Pope.
So, like all of the Cardinalswhich is basically like the mini
Pope of the country they allcome together at Vatican City
and then they all vote on who'sgoing to become the next Pope
when the Pope dies.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow.
Isn't that like a Vice Pope.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
No, no second in charge charge.
There's many second in charge.
Well, does it have to be a man?
It does have to be a man that'sbecause there are no cardinals
that are women why, girl, Idon't ask me about like catholic
tradition?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
they don't.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I grew up mormon well , you knew all this, you know, I
well.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I saw a conclave.
We gotta hop and escape off ofthis.
No, wait this is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, Like every day they vote on who's gonna become
the new pope what?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
every day, like for the entirety of ever.
Yes, they go into like secretchambers, so it's like traitors,
and they can't leave until andno one can like speak you know
out to the community or get anyinformation in to the conclave.
It's like you're in what's itcalled Like?
A trial Deliberation or you'rein seclusion is the right word.
(03:55):
So you're secluded, sequesteredwhatever it is, and then
whenever they vote, if there'slike a majority, then they
release white smoke to indicatethat they've selected a new Shut
up.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, it's like so fabulous.
From the chimney of the SistineChapel.
What other?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
color smokes do they have?
They have black smoke if theydon't select.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
If they're killing the next vote, if it goes on for
another day, that's wild.
So it's like kind of liketraitors like Brandy Glanville
and Dylan Efron would haveslayed.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I love this, Like okay, so traitors.
It's like the original survivor.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Wow, so like once you get anointed the pope, you're
the pope until you die, correct?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But you have to be like over 60 years old or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
To be like over 60 years old, or something like
that, do you have to have beenin the you know what?
Let me stop asking you allthese questions.
I can google it myself.
Okay, because I want to go backto the busy few weeks that we
had.
What was your favorite activityor thing that you did last week
, since you were so busy?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I went on a date, okay.
So we went to terra Plata for alittle rooftop drink.
I need to add that to my new app?
Yes, you do.
Rooftop glass of wine.
And then things were going well.
Actually, it was so cute.
We sat down next to this oldercouple that were probably in
(05:20):
their 70s, had grew up and livedin Washington Seattle
Washington for their entirelives and they started chatting
with us.
I wasn't really sure how thedate was going until the woman
asked like, oh, is this a firstdate?
I wasn't really sure if it wasthe first date either, because
he works at the company that Iwork for, and so I wasn't really
(05:42):
sure if it was a date or not.
But then the old lady asked andwe both were kind of like,
looked at each other, like notsure who's gonna say what first,
and then he was like yeah whichlove because you get
confirmation that doesn't needto be like is this a date?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
but I don't understand why you decide, if
it's a date, like if it's goingwell, like oh, it's a date.
But then, like, you're stilldoing the same activity, and if
it didn't go well, you're like,oh no, it wasn't a date.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't, yeah, I don't well, I guess a date for
me is defined by whether or not,like, you're trying to find out
if there is some romanticinterest.
So I wasn't sure if we werejust going as like, co-workers,
friends, buddies, because thatwas kind of the vibe that I was
getting Amigas, cheetahs, yeah,and then which we were also,
(06:28):
like you know, spilling the teaon our axis All at once, yeah,
because you know we've knowneach other for a long time,
right, and he's yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
He knew who you were with before.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, so he answers oh, and then I was like okay,
now I need to like step it up anotch.
So then I took him to thisplace called inside passage,
which is like a speakeasy insideof a bar in capitol hill, and,
um, I was like okay.
Then now this is like really adate love because you got the
confirmation correct.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
did you feel like it, you acted?
Or you got the confirmationCorrect.
Did you feel like you acted oryou treated the interaction
differently after he confirmedit was a date?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
In what way?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
At first I was just like kiki-ing and having a great
time, but then I was likebiting my lip and being a little
more flirty and touchy andkissy.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh yeah, you did kiss .
Yeah Well, you tried to kisshim and then he moved his cheek.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, and you were like I loved him real time.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You were like no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And then you made out so basically, yeah, we gave
each other a goodbye kiss and hegave me his cheek and I was
like, no, not after a date likethat.
We had so much fun, and so thenI forced him to kiss me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So you're going to see him again.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah Well, we work together.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
so hope it's not awkward?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What was your favorite Good question?
I didn't know if you were goingto propose it to me, so I was
just going to start answering.
My good friend, Austin cameinto town again.
He is my straight friend that Imet right before nursing school
and we've just been pals sincethen.
He's working for a job out here, but he came into town.
We went to Thai food and then aspeakeasy bathtub, co gin.
(08:20):
Bathtub gin yeah and co.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yep.
But also we got to talk aboutthe thai place because it is
like my favorite thai place inI've never even heard of it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He's the one who suggested is it bang?
Tack, did you add that to yourapp?
Yes, I did.
I added a photo.
Yeah, because I had it recently.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Bang, tack is something like that bang thrak,
bang that.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Ooh, bang that, bang that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Bang that, but yeah, again I had my second peanut
sauce.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Arguably, this one was much better because it
wasn't a frozen meal, and then Itold Caleb this and I feel like
the audience would agree withme and tell me if you don't.
But you can judge how good aThai place is based on their
peanut sauce Bang rack, bangrack.
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah, and I'm glad that you gotto experience a really good
peanut sauce, because it'simportant when it comes to Thai.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, and it was.
So.
I stay getting pineapple friedrice and I'm a level one because
I'm a wimp when it comes tospice.
I don't want pain, I don't wantto burn.
Anyway, that was a good softopen and that's it, folks.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's the end of the soft open and I'll play the
music.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, I've ended it well, before you play that music
uh oh, so it's not over no, notyet um today's mother's day.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh yeah, you called your mother mother's day I
called my mother and you calledyour sister.
You know what?
She had a great day and evening.
Last night she went up to um,the oakland hills with her
sister and she made her dinner.
My sister, my, my aunt made mymom is this model aunt?
Yeah, hot and, uh, aunt karen,and then they went on a walk
(10:05):
this morning and, yeah, she hada lovely day and I sent her some
shoes from Nordstrom.
Love For.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Mother's Day Like a heel.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
My sister and I split them, but yeah, Isn't she
unemployed?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Don't include that.
Was it a heel?
Was it a sneaker?
She got her tax return.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So she's like I'm rich.
I was like don't spend it allin one place.
She called me today and she waslike should I buy a Vitamix
blender?
It's $200 off, it's only $350.
I was like A thousand percentshe should.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's not what I said.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
She should call me next.
Yeah, I know I'm like put $350in your retirement account,
bitch.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, love.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What'd you do?
What'd your mom do?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What kind of shoe Was it?
A heel, a sneaker, a wedge, aflat?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It was a hoku or not a hoku, hoka.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Hoku Running shoes, walking shoes.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Lots of nurses wear them and I think they're fugly,
Something that she could wearfor work.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Let me take it back.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
They're not fugly In the garden.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I called my mother, I called my sister.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I think they're fugly but they are fugly, they're
just too thick.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Get a new balance.
Yeah, get a shape up or the oncloud.
Those are my favorite.
I like those any who's there's?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
um, I called my mother and she.
They were having lunch with mysisters there, my nana's there.
Those are all like my immediatemothers in my life, so I got to
facetime them and then my momfacetimed me and showed me my
niece was walking.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh wow just a few steps, wow, yeah, just a few
steps.
And then she falls, correct,yeah, but she gets back up again
.
She, okay, but also shout outto all the other moms out there
and our parents, single parents,playing the role.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They're still moms if they're single parents well,
what if it's a single dadraising them?
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
then they have father's day.
What about?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
what the heck is there a gender gender neutral
day?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
parents day, but shout out to my aunt, who also
helped raise me.
I love brushing her hair as alittle kid, as a little gay boy,
just like give me that brushand she had this long blonde
hair and I would just like brushit I would do the same thing
with my nana, but she had a bobso it wasn't long hair to brush,
but like that doesn't soundthat fun and then someone broke
into her house and stole mycaboodle what, what, like your
(12:24):
whole kit and caboodle my wholekit and caboodle I had my
hairbrush and all my hair tiesin it oh my God.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And whenever they stole, they stole other stuff,
of course, but my caboodle.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You were doing your grandma's hair with your
caboodle.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, wow you were a hairstylist even back.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But it was clear and see-through, like you could see
that it was hair stuff and youstole it.
This hairbrush meant so much tome.
It had like one of those, likegrippy, squeezy handles.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, like Conair or something.
It was Conair, it was great.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, cue the music Soft open's open, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
but also shout out to my mom's best friend from high
school that she's still friendswith and lives in Sonoma.
She took me in when my brotherwas living with us and we ran
out of bedrooms Zelda.
And yeah, her name's Nicole, soshe's another mom figure for me
(13:24):
.
Yeah, her name's nicole, soshe's another mom figure for me.
Shout out to terry in northcarolina, who housed me after I
had an existential crisis anddidn't know what to do when I
graduated college I think you'vementioned that on the pot
before yeah, but I just wantedto, you know, say her name and,
um, you know what, shout out tomother earth because she's been
doing some great things for uslately with this weather,
especially this last week.
(13:45):
Girl, the sun has been out, thetulips are in full bloom,
daffodils are popping up.
You've been in your crop tops.
I have lots of crop tops.
Abercrombie Love, yeah.
So now cue the music.
Where does it go?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That was like Star Wars Great.
Does it go?
I don't know that was like starwars great, okay, well, um, I
would love to introduce thetopic again this week, like I,
did last week since I'm notactually hosting one of these
(14:24):
days, I will um.
So this week we well, on thispodcast, it's after the week
that we tried alternatives toalcohol, whether that be for a
week, yes, for a week food,drinks, gummies, just things
that and you know, we didn'tjust replace it with like wheat
or anything.
(14:44):
That's some of that, but wetried a bunch of different ones
and this week we want to talkabout our experience and if we
recommend them, because I havethe names, the ingredients and
kind of our thoughts on the weekyou know, I do want to just
like go back to cold opening fora second okay, no because that
(15:07):
one week that I did nothing wasthe week that we were not we're
abstaining from alcohol.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think I was here all week too, and then the week
after, no, I'm like every weekI'm putting it like two and two
together, like, yeah, I had likealcohol every single day.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Bus club, another club, another drink, another
drink, another date.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Right, truly yeah I mean, we started off.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We started off that week with cinco de mayo, and we
were like tequila yes, that wasmonday.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Cinco de mayo was monday and we started with
tequila, which I don't evendrink, but I was like I'm
deprived you didn't have alcoholthat like this past friday,
though, because you know you didyou had wine yeah, I did, yeah,
I did anyways.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So so we're tying soft open into the topic this
week.
Yeah, and I because I knowwe've talked about alcohol, dry
January, our viewpoints onalcohol.
How dry January impacted you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah and even like from season one, I think, when
we just talked about more of,like, our dependence on alcohol
and all that kind of stuff yeah.
But to give you guys a littlebit of backstory and we've
talked about this in pastepisodes, but basically Caleb
ordered all of these drinks fromthe interwebs that have.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Functional mushrooms, CBD, THC, other alcohol
alternative ingredients.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So we tried all of them.
Well not all of them on themarket.
We tried all the ones weordered Right.
We're going to tell you alittle bit about how they made
us feel and etc.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Thank you for giving different wording to my
explanation.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yours is always more summarized.
I don't know what the PewResearch Center is, but to start
this topic, off.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's kind of like Gallup.
You know what Gallup is?
No, but I did see that wordLike a Gallup poll.
Okay, it's a data sciencecenter.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, I don't know where they asked them.
If it was in the mail, online,probably online.
Um, according to the 2023research study, 38 percent of
the us abstain from alcohol.
That's people 21 and up.
What percentage was it 38?
Wow, that's a lot, I know, Iexpected it to be less.
Yeah, I should have looked moreinto it to see, like broken
(17:29):
down, like age groups, because,like we talked about Gen Z, I
feel like there's more of aconversation about alcohol
alternatives, which makes sensewhy we're seeing products now.
Yeah, let's start with.
The first thing that I orderedwas the Moonwalk canned drinks.
Yes, and those had.
There was three different onesuh, just only functional
mushrooms.
(17:49):
Then there was a mushrooms plusfive five milligrams of THC.
And then the third one was, uh,mushrooms plus plus 10
milligrams of THC, and the mainingredients were lion's mane and
reishi reishi mushrooms.
So lion's mane can be a helpfulalternative to alcohol by
(18:11):
offering potential cognitive andmood-boosting benefits without
the negative side effects ofalcohol.
It helps with mood regulation,reduces stress and improves
focus and memory.
And improves focus and memory.
And the other main ingredient,reishi mushrooms, have been
shown to promote relaxation,improve sleep quality.
Their calming effect can bebeneficial for those struggling
(18:32):
with anxiety-related insomnia.
So you tried them.
Did you try?
I don't think you tried the.
I tried the five milligram oneand the regular one.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Thoughts Okay, my thought about the mushroom only
one was that it didn't tastethat great.
No, it tasted kind of like aLaCroix, but like not a good
flavor LaCroix.
It was cherry blossom, uh-huh,a little too perfumey and also
had like absolutely no effect asfar as um feeling anything I
(19:09):
also agree it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I didn't feel a damn thing.
What I will say about it,though, is the activity of
drinking.
It did help me replace having aglass of wine, correct, yeah,
yeah, and then I think honest,because it's a prebiotic also, I
just found out and.
And with it being bubbly, likemy stomach can't handle that
much of the bubbly.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Meaning it didn't feel good in your mouth and
didn't feel good in your stomach.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, but it was almost like putting cotton balls
in your stomach if you'rehungry, like you feel full but
you don't have any food in there.
So I guess it's the same way.
It upset my tummy enough whereI didn't drink any wine, so I
guess it did its job, butmentally, did nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Did you not drink the wine because your brain was
telling you you're not allowedto drink the wine, or because
your stomach was telling you?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Oh my brain, because I knew we weren't drinking wine
that week.
But I went to bed I was like,oh, I'm content, we weren't
drinking wine.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That week.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But I went to bed I was like oh, I'm content With an
upset stomach.
Yeah, okay, that doesn't soundlike content to me, but like
content like without having wineto wind down.
I guess I was like well, okay,I can go to bed.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I had half of one of the five milligram, which
was what was the flavor, calledBlueberry peach, blueberry
peach it, which was what was theflavor called blueberry peach
blueberry peach?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
that it did not taste like that, no, that's for sure.
But the best flavor was the 10milligrams, and it was prickly
pear oh, yeah, but the blueberrypeach again.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It was so many bubbles yeah, I would say all in
all kind of a boot, not not atoot, but a boot.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I wouldn't order them again because they were like
decently pricey, weren't theyfor For like those three cans, I
want to say it was like almost$80, like $75 or $80.
Gasp yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Did you get those in the mail?
Yeah, how does that work?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I have no idea.
That is weed sent in the mail.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But I definitely did feel like kind of buzzy from
half of the five milligram onewhich I'm very sensitive to the
weed.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So I want to confirm how much.
There's definitely something inthere.
Yes, I want to confirm how.
Oh, so for a 12 pack so it wasfour of each of the three
flavors was 76 US dollars Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, that's, that's pricey.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes.
And then considering a bottleof wine is you 20 bucks I mean
period.
Yeah, for the amount ofbeverages that it gave 12
beverages.
A box wine, that's 20 bucksthat gets you way more drinks so
that is a boot.
If we're comparing it to likedoes it actually replace or do
you actually feel a difference?
(21:44):
I think we boot those.
I think so too I won't berepurchasing nor using it as an
alternative Period.
Do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
yours next, the one that I purchased is called Aplos
, and it came in a variety offlavors four different flavors
and they're all sort of likemocktail in cans, and the one
that I'm drinking right now iscalled a mandora negroni, but it
really tastes more like uh,hold on, let me, let me taste it
(22:13):
oh you, let me try it.
It has like a it's more like aaperol sp yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Does it have licorice-y?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, there is one, is it the?
Fucking cola the cola um colafashioned instead of old
fashioned which is supposed to,you know, have some sort of like
you know, relation toold-fashioned, but it was
disgusting.
Yeah, but the aperol spritz iswhat I'll call this.
I would say like, all in all,the flavors were like the best
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substitute for an actualcocktail there was a margarita
flavor.
There's a chili margarita which,or, yeah, chili margarita, and
it was so good and like reallylight and refreshing.
Um, I feel like you didn'treally miss the tequila in it,
nor do you miss the you knowalcohol in this um spritz.
There's also one called an umespritz.
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I forget what it tastes like,but um very memorable yeah but I
would say my favorite flavorswere the mandora negroni and the
chili margarita.
Yeah, I would say, all in all,these have absolutely no effect,
um, cognitively or like as faras like feeling anything in your
body or your brain.
Um, but I would say, just as afun alternative, like the
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flavors are really good and theyhave six to ten grams of sugar
and no added sugars.
So they're all, like you know,from natural, like juices and
stuff, but they actually tastelike a real cocktail.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So would you say it's similar to like non-alcoholic
beer, like as a replacement,like to be doing the activity
but not any functional cognitiveeffects?
Absolutely yeah, I would agree.
I didn't like those.
I felt less than any of theother.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh yeah, so that's also a boot I think I would give
it a two for the flavors.
Oh, that's fair, because youhave been drinking what about?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm not?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
always looking for like a cognitive high when I,
when I am trying to like relax,sometimes it's nice just to have
a cocktail would you grab those?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
or the non-alcoholic beer by Tom Holland?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
B-R-O.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
It just depends.
Are you in the mood for a beer?
Are you in the mood for acocktail?
Well, now, you have one of each.
I know I have like some prettysolid, like tasting alternatives
.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Did you get those on Amazon, the Negroni ones, yep
tasting alternatives.
Did you get those on Amazon,the Negroni ones, yep oh which
is love.
Okay, so that's a two for theflavor and for, like it,
replacing a drink but not havingany cognitive effects.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, it's like if you don't want to have a soda
water and a lime, you know it's.
I feel like I would have thisat a bar.
Oh, I love that, so I wouldhave this at a bar.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh, I love that.
So the next one, which did youeven try the three spirit?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
like the spirit alternatives, I tasted it when
you made a cocktail with it.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So I ordered like a starter kitand it was like identified as
livener, social and nightcap.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What's the brand called?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Three spirit Okay, livener, social and nightcap.
What's the brand called?
Uh, three spirit okay.
And the livener?
It was described as energized,juicy and fiery.
The social was floaty, herbalbliss.
A nightcap was calm, woody,mellow.
I think.
You tried the nightcap, onewhich I think was like a whiskey
alternative.
Right since it's like anightcap yeah, yeah.
And then Live and Earn Social.
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I tried those.
One of them is like a rum ortequila alternative.
And then I know one of them isa vodka alternative.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I didn't feel a damn motherfucking thing, I also
didn't like the flavor of it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It was like someone made tea, used the used tea bag,
put it into this whateverconcoction, and then you mix it
with like seven up and you'relike it tastes like tree bark
yeah, and I just like have aproblem with it being advertised
as an alternative to tequila orrum or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But it doesn't taste anything like tequila or rum or
whatever.
So it's like if there are like,um, non-alcoholic spirits out
there that taste like tequila,that are non-alcoholic, so like
if I want to make a margaritaand I'm trying to add some like
viscosity, like thickness to thedrink, but also like that kind
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of blue agave flavor, then youcan use something like that.
So I feel like it's kind offalse advertising to say, oh,
this is like a good alternativeto whiskey and you can make an
old fashioned with it.
It doesn't taste anything likewhiskey.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I agree, and it also costs $60.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, for that little kit.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So, that's a boot, but it reminded me of what was
the Saint saint, something thatwe got for david's little saint
little saint yeah, um which Ipulled up because I was a big
fan of those what?
Because it also, like, tastedsimilar to gin gin, okay,
because not like it had the same.
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So I think it's a betteralternative, although, like
despite if the ingredients madeyou feel anything, because it
tasted like what it said it was.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, so I like that Little Saint and I did
definitely feel an effect fromLittle Saint gin.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I agree.
I wish we should have orderedit again.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I felt a little more social and it almost felt like a
little intoxicating, like drunkalmost, but without feeling as
slow or as inebriated.
I guess in a way you kind ofkeep your wits about you.
Your frontal cortex is stillfunctioning, but you just kind
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of feel a little bit more closewith the people around you and a
little more, I guess, lessanxious yeah, because we went
through that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, because we had like a cocktail or two with it
for david's birthday and then Ithink, like that, took up a lot
of the bottle and then I thinkafter, like you, I think you did
it once while we were here, butthen, like before going
somewhere, I think you had oneand I think you quite enjoyed it
.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, I also agree, I think that the social aspects
for sure, but then like therewas like a little fun fuzzy, but
it wasn't like yeah, likebuzzing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So I think that is a repurchase, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I think that's a toot .
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes, Mm I think that's a toot.
Yes, what that one reminds methe most of which is our
favorite product ever, but alsovery much on this topic it
wasn't new to us, it's somethingthat we've had before are the
road tripping gummies?
Those are also functionalmushrooms no psilocybin in them
and I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So they're legal mom.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, and they give 50 off to health care workers
literally like every singleorder they're basically free for
you I know they're like 30bucks for eight and for me
through you period they're like30 bucks for eight of the
gummies and I get them 15, andit's like you upload your
nursing license one time, whichis also just wild like there's a
part of my brain that's like,yeah, there's a government gonna
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come after you wait there's nolike illegal ingredients in this
, and it'slike all like herbs and stuff or
mushrooms, but like no cellist,it was just it mind fucks me.
Yeah.
So I'm like I'm uploading mynursing license.
I'm like, here you go, don'tcome for me okay.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But like also the effects, like the, the brain
effects that they have by havingone little gummy and I usually
will just have like a half ofone and I feel like like all of
my social anxiety is gone.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I have, um, I feel very social, um that's with or
without drinking correct yeah,yeah, because you've also you've
had it before without whenyou're on your juice cleanse
yeah you only had those and wentout with other people that were
drinking yeah, and it's veryfun I remember when we tried
them for the first time you havea whole one.
Oh my god, oh my god, I know Ilove them and you can take up to
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eight.
It says, yeah, like there'slike a guide, that's like what
type of field do you want for a?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
high dose, but that I would.
I've never had more than oneand a half.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And so I looked up what the main mushroom is in
this one.
Okay, and it's Amanita muscaria.
Okay, and so for this one, itmimics alcohol's relaxing
effects.
Some users report feelings ofrelaxation, euphoria and reduced
anxiety after consuming thesegummies relaxation, euphoria and
reduce anxiety after consumingthese gummies.
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The active compounds in thismushroom there's some big words
there interact with the GABAsystem, which also is affected
by alcohol potentiallycontributing to these effects.
These effects are oftendescribed as milder than the
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intoxication from alcohol,offering a potentially safer and
less disorienting alternative.
But did you know that they'retoxic?
What do you mean?
This mushroom is toxic, so it'sconsidered toxic, and improper
preparation or dosage can leadto adverse effects, including
nausea, vomiting, confusion andeven more serious health issues,
which there have been a time ortwo, that I feel like mild
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nausea if I take it on an emptytummy.
Have you felt that?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So we're poisoning ourselves?
I think so, but so is I mean.
So is alcohol, I guess that'strue, it's not federally
regulated.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Some states have restrictions and it's banned in
Louisiana, wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, someone's caught on.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, but I I think that out of everything on this
list, they're definitely myfavorite, because what I've used
them for quite a bit recentlyis first dates are like dates in
general, because I feel likethey do a good job of like not
disorienting you at all, butlike almost like any lick of
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anxiety masking it and you justlike are being fully present in
yourself.
There's just weird connect.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I enjoy it yeah, also for me.
I feel like I don't want todrink, or I don't want to drink
as nearly as much, or becauseyou kind of like, keep your wits
about you.
It's like, oh, I'm fine withjust having like one drink.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Or none, because I don't feel like the social
anxiety to drink or, you know,pressure to drink when everyone
else is drinking around me.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, it's just.
It's weird to me because, likeall these other things, I feel
like we're trying to make as areplacement that like that were
on the list and that I thinktruly I could go out and only
have that and be content becauseyou have done that, I've done
it and definitely not drink less, especially like at concerts
and stuff, but I it'll foreverbe a repurchase yeah so road
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trip and gummies, you should buythem, and if you're a health
care worker, upload thatcertification.
The government can track youyeah, so when it is illegal,
they can terminate your licensecorrect well, if I only use one
of my license, the other oneswould say now that I know that
it's banned in louisiana, I wantto stock up because you think
it's coming for everywhere?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I don't know but I think the government currently
has more problems than road tripgummies right now.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Right, you know what?
I should have also looked up tosee if there's any negative
reviews or horror stories, butthat would have been fun, but
where I meant to say where weget it 50% off is on Earth
Wellness, not through roadtripping website itself, which
they're an authorized seller.
But that sounded so canned.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That sounded so canned like influencer and I did
not mean that well, I do wantto introduce a new segment that,
um, I'm calling pop psychology,because there are things
throughout the day in the brainof kyle where I just like pop
into these little like ummoments, psychology research,
like researcher mode, and one ofthem popped up last week as I
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was thinking about this upcomingepisode.
But it also popped up becausethere's a song called Cognitive
Dissonance and it's by SophieHollohan, hollohan, hollohan.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
With a D or no D Hollohan.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
H-O-L-L-H-A-N.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Holohan, yeah, and the song is like great, it's a
great little bop.
But cognitive dissonance is likean actual psychology term and
basically it's like when youractions and your beliefs don't
align, then your brainexperiences some sort of like
discomfort and so, in order tolike reduce that discomfort, you
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engage in like these thinkingpatterns to resolve those
feelings.
So, essentially, when you act ina way that doesn't align with
your beliefs, that createscognitive dissonance.
And dissonance is like whenthings are not aligning or they
sound bad together, but it'slike the opposite of harmony,
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right.
So you try to resolve thosenegative feelings that you have
when your actions and yourbeliefs are not in alignment,
right?
So, like, the classic exampleis when someone who thinks that
smoking is really bad smokes acigarette, they have like one.
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They can choose like one of afew different ways to like
resolve that dissonance so theycan either quit smoking and say
that they're never going tosmoke again, or they can kind of
downplay the negative healtheffects that they know are
associated with smoking.
Oh, so they're either going tochange their belief system or
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kind of disregard science andwhat culture is telling them
about, whatever they did, orthey're going to change their
behavior to go to align withtheir beliefs or the cultural
standard.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It does.
That's very interesting,Honestly so, when you were
talking about cognitivedissonance, correct, it reminds
me of a definition I've heard ofI don't remember what it was,
it may have been Brene Browntalking about guilt is when your
actions and values don't align.
And so that's what I wasthinking of the entire time.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, it's similar.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Because so, like I have to help people through a
lot of guilt at work, and so ifsomeone's like, are they going
to die?
And I'm like, should I come orshould I not?
And I'm always like, will youfeel guilty if you weren't here
to say goodbye?
And if there's like, oh, Idon't know, come anyway.
But if there's like, oh, I don'tknow, come anyway, but if
there's like, oh, 100%, no, I'mfine, then okay, then maybe
don't come.
And that's how I help peopledecide if they're going to come
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visit their loved one beforethey die or not.
But I almost feel like peoplewho are like, no, I'm fine, but
then they secretly do have guilt.
They are almost downplaying it.
It's like oh well, I you knowjust this christmas or I, you
know I already I went all theway out there and every time I
called, they never answer thephone, or so it's in my brain,
that's cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, that latter one oh my god,look at me, yeah, so that's
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what I was thinking of theentire time.
So do you think that, becauseguilt is like a big, heavy
emotion that I feel like is more, is more infrequent probably
than the actions you were justtalking about?
Because I feel like you know,someone could go to a club and
smoke a cigarette and then startdownplaying it or something?
Or like oh, I was drunk or itwas this.
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Whereas guilt, you know, tendsto be heavier situations.
So do you feel like?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, maybe guilt is more like emotionally based.
Cognitive dissonance is morebehavioral based reasoning and
logic.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're pulling from, like your logic brain, not your
emotion bank.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
When was the most recent timethat you experienced cognitive
dissonance?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
What a question what?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
That is not a question I ever thought would
come out of my head.
What is the most recent timeyou experienced cognitive
dissonance.
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, the reason that I chose this word for pop
psychology is because I feellike it ties into us taking a
week off of alcohol, because weknow.
Why are we taking a week off ofalcohol?
Because alcohol is bad for usand you know.
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If you are, are we downplayingthe health side effects of
alcohol and how much we drink?
I don't know what the answer is, but I think that it there's
definitely like some discomfortin the collective conscious,
like around at least the US, ifnot around the world, around how
much people drink and how weperceive alcohol and what we use
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it for.
And I see some sort of, likeyou know, resolution coming, but
I'm not exactly sure where youknow it's going, where that
resolution is going to land.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You know it's wild.
So I was sitting here talkingabout, we were talking about all
the things that we tried thatwe wouldn't repurchase, and I
was even like it has this manygrams of carbs or like this
amount of sugar, and I'm saying,oh, I would never repurchase
that.
How many times has vodka doneme dirty?
How many times have I've workedup so hungover and like all
that this toxin we put in ourbody and I and I'm like not even
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.
I'm like, oh yeah, like Iprobably will.
I mean, we'll order anotherdrink in my life, but like this,
I'm like, oh, I'll never orderagain and I'm like because of
the carbs or the sugar, and I'mlike girl the alcohol is a sugar
what the alcohol in that liquoris awful for your body.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
You could probably stick with the a few grams of
carbs versus drinking the liquorand I'm just like, and that,
that's exactly that through ityeah, okay, that leads me to my
second um point within cognitivedissonance, um adam grant,
who's like a really famous umpsychologist, who does more like
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organizational psychology butalso BFFs with um Brene Brown.
He talks a lot in his book umthink again on this concept
called doubling down andbasically let me pull up my
notes here.
Doubling down is apsychological trap where people
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continue investing time, moneyor effort in a bad decision long
after it's apparent that it's alosing course of action.
So basically like what you'resaying about you know alcohol,
like well, I'm so invested inalcohol and I know that alcohol
is a good time and I know thatI'm going to go back to it, so
why invest any interest, time,money in an alternative?
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That gave me a stomachache onetime.
It's basically like your braindoubling down on things that
don't reasonably make senseduring a state of cognitive
dissonance I do be doubling down, yeah in general, uh-huh, but
like the like, the broader, likeapplications of cognitive
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dissonance and doubling down, Ithink, is like, so present right
now in pop culture, in politics, politics for sure, um, in like
religion, as we're talkingabout, about the Pope, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I like this new segment.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
It's very thought provoking.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And like how like my brain goes to like everyday life
, and then how applicable is itnow, especially with all the
shit that us as a country, or ashumans worldwide, have been
through the last few years?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, about some other examples that you hear or
you see kind of in the worldaround us as it relates to
cognitive dissonance and thingsthat you're struggling with as
far as resolving that internalconflict in your brain when your
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beliefs and actions don't align.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I feel like I get a little bit of therapy each time
you bring up a psychology topic,love.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, let's get into victory.
Advice you can go first okay,my victory, what so?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I think we've mentioned it before that I
started this breakup bucket listthis time last year went awry,
went off book, off script, ifyou will.
Um, but I completed somethingon it for the first time in a
long time last week.
What was it?
I got a colonic and it was thatthe booty hole?
Yes, so I was actually talkingabout it at softball today and
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someone was like don't you haveto wait to like 60 plus it's?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
not a colonoscopy.
It's not a colonoscopy.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
so a colonic is basically you're like not
stirrups, but like there's acontraption where you're laying
down and your butt is kind ofover a commode and I don't know
if my nursing friends will getit Like is there a?
Toilet underneath you?
Yeah, because then it goes intoa clear tube so you can see
what's coming out of your body.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
And the clear tube goes into the toilet that you're
squatting on top of in stirrups.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Well, you're like laying over it, I don't know how
to explain it.
It's almost like.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
It's like a doctor's chair.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Me trying to explain a pap smear.
Never have had one, never will.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
But like you, like Google Pornhub colonics, you
think anything would come up.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Oh, I guarantee you there would be.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And you could see it.
Well, you know what you knowcontraption You're getting into
it, but I think so.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
There's a few different kinds, like there's
some that have like a hosedirectly to your bottom.
This one was like over like atoilet-ish Like you're laying
down, though, okay.
And On your back or yourstomach, yeah on your back and
for the nursing friends it's ayonker or yonk hour.
However people pronounce it,it's the same thing that they
use to suction out your mouthLike if you're like in the
hospital or something.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
In dentist yeah, different.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Okay, it's like this plastic.
It looks exactly like it is ayonker, but anyway it's teensy
tiny, probably like like amarker that's not like a crayola
marker, like one of those likeadult coloring book markers like
a sharpie.
There we go better.
Let me explain it the long wayaround.
It's that and it literally goesin your butt like maybe half an
inch, okay, and so, and then itclips into what you're laying
on.
So like the over the toilet,like there's a thing to clip it
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so water is continuous, youcan't move well, like you could,
but like it's, even if youdefecate, because you defecate
around it, like it doesn't comeout.
But like I was like, oh my god,is it not going to come undone?
But it would only come undoneif I got up off the table, got
it and so, like, as you'rereleasing yourself, it's not
pushing it out, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So then it doesn't go like down your legs or anything
no, because you're like inthese turps, your legs are up
and then like literally run downyour butt, crack.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
No, like the way that the angle that you're laying at
it goes straight in, okay, butum, for 40 minutes you get this
like body temperature waterthat's going in and the longer
you can hold it and you feelyou'll feel like mild cramping,
that like higher up in yourcolon, it goes okay.
So the idea is it it's notgonna remove all of it, because
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I don't know, that's probably.
I don't know who's gonna holdthat much water in their butt,
but, um, some, professionals thelonger you hold it, the more
stool and toxins it's going toget out.
Although I'm glad I don't have atapeworm, I was hoping for
something a little dramatic thatI'd get a photo of to post on
our blog.
Did you take a photo of it?
Yeah, afterwards I took a smallvideo of it going.
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Oh my God, Because it'sconstantly going through that
clear tube.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
So it's not like it stays there.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Basically it's just like a douche that is like
constantly running and it goesway high up, uh-huh so my
positive experience was I lostfour pounds I weighed myself.
You were full of shit, I'mliterally full of shit.
Before and after weighed myself, lost four pounds.
Um, I've always felt likemildly bloated ish, just cause
like after different.
You know, you see my diet youfelt snatched and there was not
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a lick of bloat in this body.
Not a lick of bloat, shit,nothing.
And I was like wait.
And then I was.
I was my friend who I used towork with.
She's about to get married.
I was like you have to do thisbefore your wedding.
Like the day before yourwedding, like you need to lose,
like you're feeling a littlebloated, snatch Whoa.
And so I looked up like the um,uh proposed benefits of this
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and Is this your victory?
Yes, Okay, um, removal of toxinsand waste, uh, improved
digestion and elimination,enhanced and elimination,
enhanced nutrient absorption,boosted energy levels, weight
loss, improved immunity andmental clarity.
Detoxification Because, like,if you think, like if your
diet's not that great and you'reputting stuff in your body that
you know is not great cognitivedissonance you're like oh, it's
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fine, at least I'm not doingcrack.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I feel like that's such an acceptable version.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
That is your brain.
This, I feel like that's suchan acceptable version.
That is your brain.
This is your brain.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
On crack Right and so it's clearing all of it out and
you're like, it's like.
You're a born again Christian.
I'm a born again healthy person.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Your colon was baptized.
It was, it was Is it holy water.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
It was wonderful and I got this deal on Groupon,
which I fucked with the Grouponand it's usually because I was
supposed to get an ionic footbath, but I went there like at
six and they closed at seven andlike I was finishing up and I
was like I'm not like this poorwoman.
I'm not gonna make her stay.
It was phenomenal and I'm gonnamake you go again.
You go and I will go again, butyou have to go.
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It's European RejuvenationCenter, European Rejuvenation
Center in Bellevue.
Okay, my girl Celine been doingit since 2007.
Dion no.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Imagine.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
She's like this cured my muscular disease.
What did she?
Speaker 3 (48:08):
have.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Something like that.
But she was so wonderful, shewas like you poop, I poop,
everyone poops, poop is poop, Idon't care, and I was like I
feel safe.
Does she have an accent?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yes, I couldn't tell you what.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
And then I put like a little warm, what is a heated?
What is that thing you put onyour back?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
A heating pad.
A heating pad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
And then like a little massage gun, so you
really break up the stool, youput it, move it around on your
stomach.
Kyle, I'm a stomach kyle.
I'm gonna have to look up howfrequently I can go back.
I will be back in thosestirrups okay, so that's my
victory.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Kyle was your victory okay, yeah, april is like
volunteer month or somethinglike that how do you know that?
Yes, it is yeah, because you'resupposed to like spend april,
you know, out there volunteeringand giving back to the
community and all that stuff wejust recognized our volunteers.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
That's how okay, I know, okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Well, um at work.
We coordinated some likevolunteering efforts and you can
kind of choose your ownadventure.
You can go plant trees, or youcan go garden, or you can, you
know, do this, that and theother.
I chose to um prepare a meal tobe delivered to a LGBTQ plus,
(49:19):
QIA plus group home that, youknow, helps homeless youth.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Unhoused.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Thank you.
Unhoused or people who, justlike you know, don't feel safe
in their own home.
So I made Chili's egg rolls yousure did yeah, I did and got
all the ingredients and friedthem up and, um, yeah, drop them
off, along with, you know, myother coworkers um Mexican
(49:52):
add-ins, enchiladas andguacamole and all that kind of
stuff, and, yeah, it was justlike fun to do something that I
like to do to help give back,and it was like so easy and so
heartwarming.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I love that.
I remember you making them Like.
You made like two full sheetsof it right.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, unfortunately I did not get to have one, so I
hope it didn't cause anyindigestion or problems with
people's stomachs so that no oneelse had to get a colonic in
order, um, I'll have to callceline she's.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
They were deprived.
She's gonna have to do somefree, free colonics for the
lgbtqia plus kids unhoused kids.
Yeah, yeah, that was really.
I didn't know that.
Maybe you did tell me that theywere like the southwest egg
rolls, so like chilies.
Yeah, I did try the filling.
The try.
The filling was really sweet.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Maybe you did tell me that they were like the
Southwest egg rolls, so likechilies.
Yeah, I did try the filling.
The filling was really good.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I know they must have fucking loved those.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Because where are they getting chilies?
Not here, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Wait, that's really sweet.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, Did you.
How did you feel after doingthe action?
Your love language is acts ofservice and I feel like that
ties in with the volunteeractivity you chose.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It was an acts of serve.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Act of service.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Honestly, it just made me want to do it more often
, cause I was like, wow, thatwas so easy and I know that it
probably had a positive impacton, you know, the community.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Well, and you love cooking for people, so like
that's like easy no-brainer yeah, for you, yeah hey what's your
vice?
It's actually not as chaotic asmount saint felon this time,
okay, well it can't always be amountain, sometimes it's just a
mohill a valley, you gotta havevalleys mole shut up, um.
(51:34):
So I've mentioned it before.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So I play gay softball in a league out here
which is the same for everyoneelse out there as straight
softball, but with gay peopleyes.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
LGBTQI plus individuals and we went
one-on-one today, which means wewon one, lost one Played
phenomenally in the field.
Hitting meh wasn't my strongsuit, but the first game we won
second game Catching is alwaysyour strong suit.
It is Especially after a goodclimb, baby, this glove you
can't fuck with me.
(52:06):
So I think we talked about itlast summer when I got hit in
the dick, yeah, and I wallowedon the ground for a ball and the
balls.
Yes.
And they were the size of agrapefruit, never going back
there.
I wear a cup now, but I wasplaying today and a ball took a
horrible hop.
It hit me dead, center of mycollarbone and it hurts.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Did it feel like you got hit in the funny bone?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, but good question , no you didn't flail around or
anything.
No but I also I don't know why,it's my biggest ick.
I could literally be bleedingout in the middle of a field.
As soon as people start comingover to check on me, I'm like
get away, I'm fine.
Even when I get hit in theballs, like during that inning
over the summer, I was like I'mfine, I'm going to finish the
inning.
I was in the worst pain of mylife, but even this like I
(52:52):
didn't even give myself a chanceto think I was just like.
I turned my head, thank God so Ididn't get hit in the face, and
then people started running tome before I could even.
But you didn't want to put yourglove where, no, because it
took a really bad hop and itjumped up, so my glove was down
and it hit a rock or something.
So, there was no reaction timeand so it hit me right in the
clavicle my right one and peoplestarted running at me.
(53:14):
I was like I'm fine, and then Ididn't even like assess it
until my arm hurts so bad when Imove it.
But what I will say?
Speaker 2 (53:22):
it's like getting a covid shot yeah like that kind
of pain.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah right, yeah, exactly, actually that's yeah,
maybe I got, maybe I got abooster, just yeah, but it's my
vice, because I enjoy playingsoftball but like I stay getting
fucking hurt, like I have aband-aid on this other hand, I
have scars on my elbows but wedid get that guy out at second
after it bounced off my body.
Wow, it went to the secondbasement.
He stepped on the base, so it'smy vice yeah, honestly a vice.
(53:48):
Not ending in emotional turmoilis pretty nice or anyone in
prison right yeah, or on paroleprobation, whatever.
Okay, what's your advice?
Speaker 2 (54:04):
My advice is that I joined a gym last month and I've
been a member for a month andI've gone twice.
Oh my God, the guilt, the shame.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
The shame and it's like literally right down the
road.
It's down the street and it'sthe cheapest gym membership you
could probably get in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I know and I'm like okay, okay, I went in the
morning once before work.
Before work, I was like okay, Icould do this, I actually
really enjoy this and I was likesore for like three days
afterwards.
I was like that was exhausting.
I can't believe I am this soreafter one workout.
And then I went back in theevening because I'm trying to
(54:38):
figure out like do I really wantto get up that early every day
to like work it into my routineor do I want to do it after work
?
and then when I switched toafter work, I had happy hours
and dates every single day afterwork, so I couldn't go after
work.
So now I'm, now I'm maybe goingback to before work.
I don't know, it's verydifficult.
It's hard to figure out.
(54:59):
The math is not mathing.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
As someone who's been a member of that gym for nine
years it's Planet Fitness, bythe way.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
It's nothing fancy.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
It's not like Equinox or anything wild I promise you
or swear to you.
I've probably been to the gymactual to work out less than
five times in that nine years,but like way more to tan.
That doesn't make me feelbetter.
Oh my God, you should totallywork out in the morning and do
the red light therapy.
They have red light therapybeds.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
That's not working out.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
I know, but it's one of those like where you stand on
that like shakes your wholebody, that helps your muscles
contract.
That's working out.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
No, that's not working out.
They proved in, like the 50s,when that was invented, that it
does nothing.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Okay, well, you work from home on Mondays and Fridays
, so why don't you go in themornings then, and then at least
try to go, like Wednesday,right after work?
That's a great great plan Ilike that, yeah, and then Friday
tomorrow, friday morning, I canmaybe go with you, because you
know I start remote that day.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay, great, I like to do the little
circuit.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Okay, me, who's been there less than five times in
nine years.
What do the women?
Speaker 2 (56:05):
do Kyle.
Do you remember Do not put thaton me Do you remember the gym?
It was called Curves.
Do you remember Curves?
Oh, my Curves.
Do you remember Curves?
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Oh my God, wait.
Is it Because it had a similarfont and it reminded me of
Weight Watchers?
Yeah, For some reason.
Why was it?
Maybe because they were likebranded and marketed.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Because women have curves and they're fat.
Oh, I kick up.
It's like it literally was.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
This is my last episode on the podcast.
I'm not affiliated with thatstatement.
It was the of for women.
It's like the, the the gym thatyou go to, that you don't
actually go to.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
I wonder if that was ever in seattle because, like
now, that would never happen.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah, curves, because it'd be like you with your
fucking ice skating.
You'd be up in the curves beinglike no, I want to be in here,
I deserve to be in here.
Well, I'm sure there's skinnybitches too, that go I just
admit that you're not a ciswoman.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
But yeah, oh got it.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
We should do a spin class.
I've never in my life felt moreendorphins after, but hated
life and other humans more thandeering yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Have you done one before?
Speaker 2 (57:15):
So many.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
You don't have the butt for it?
I don't.
I have a wonky hip and a back.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Okay, why don't you close this out?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Okay.
So if you enjoyed this week'sepisode, we'd love to hear about
it.
You can email us atunfamouslyunwell at gmailcom, or
send us a DM on Instagram atunfamouslyunwell, and we'd love
just to hear feedback, questions, things you want us to try.
Next, if you send us anotherfunctional mushroom, I promise I
will not buy it, but thank youfor the suggestion.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Unless you have a rave review on something that we
don't know about, then we mighttry it.
Right, I was being a hater.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
I take it back.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
But yeah, any suggestions on things you want
us to try for a week or for aspell, let us know.
But until next week we wish youwell.
Call your mother for happymother's day I love mushrooms I
hate that.
I feel like I've done so many social activities which
is way more than I have a lotof the month of, like March or
February.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know, what happened to me is like one week
I didn't have any like socialengagements planned, and then
the next week I was like youknow what I'm going to like say
yes to more things.
And then last week, everysingle day I had something.
It was like either happy hourwith someone after work, or
pickleball, or a date, or Idon't know what.
(00:31):
But all of a sudden it was likeit went from zero to 100.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, well, last week , I think, we both did something
every night and then, by thetime, I got to Friday I was like
, oh, what are you doing?
You said nothing, Absolutelynothing.
And then my friend Mark cameover and Friday I was like, oh,
what are you doing?
You said nothing, Absolutelynothing.
And then my friend Mark cameover and we watched RuPaul's
Drag Race.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh my gosh, Season.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
well, whatever it is All-star season 10?
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
There's no way.
There's no way.
There's 10 all-star seasons.
You think there's less?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
or more.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I think there's less, but I really don't know.
We are in season 10, wow okay.
But I I'm so glad, other thanthem putting it on another
fucking streaming platform.
I'm so glad they switched up,kind of like what is what?
Would you call it?
Not the bracket, because that'swhat it is now yeah, kind of
like the format there's sixqueens right in three different
categories, and then eachcategory competes against each
other and only top three fromeach go, but there's 18 queens.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I feel like that's why they were like we want to
cast more people, and usually inAll Stars they don't eliminate
anyone ever.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh yeah, because they did that for charity yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Because they're not doing this time?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Was that their first time doing where, like Queen St,
gets at home?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, because it was like legendary legend.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
badges no the beautiful benefactress badge.
Oh yeah, that's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Legendary legend badges.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't know, but this season they're getting
$200,000.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, they did last season too.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, but that's a normal season I shared this
thing on social media.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It was about the new Pope will win a year's supply of
Anasazi, beverly Hills and$200,000.
Because, this is the first Popefrom the US right.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, ever, or just in like a hot minute, I think
ever Wait.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Really, I think ever Wait really I think so.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So there's not like geographical requirements, like,
does he live there now inEurope?
Yes, he lives at the Vatican,the Pope lives at the Vatican.
Was he living here, like whenhe found out?
Like, was it like a no bitch?
Have you seen Conclave?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, what's that A movie?
Yeah, it's a movie.
Have you seen Conclave?
No, what's that A movie?
Yeah, it's a movie.
It's about how they're choosingthe next Pope.
So, like all of the Cardinalswhich is basically like the mini
Pope of the country they allcome together at Vatican City
and then they all vote on who'sgoing to become the next Pope
when the Pope dies.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow.
Isn't that like a Vice Pope.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
No, no second in charge charge.
There's many second in charge.
Well, does it have to be a man?
It does have to be a man that'sbecause there are no cardinals
that are women why, girl, Idon't ask me about like catholic
tradition?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
they don't.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I grew up mormon well , you knew all this, you know, I
well.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I saw a conclave.
We gotta hop and escape off ofthis.
No, wait this is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, Like every day they vote on who's gonna become
the new pope what?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
every day, like for the entirety of ever.
Yes, they go into like secretchambers, so it's like traitors,
and they can't leave until andno one can like speak you know
out to the community or get anyinformation in to the conclave.
It's like you're in what's itcalled Like?
A trial Deliberation or you'rein seclusion is the right word.
(03:55):
So you're secluded, sequesteredwhatever it is, and then
whenever they vote, if there'slike a majority, then they
release white smoke to indicatethat they've selected a new Shut
up.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, it's like so fabulous.
From the chimney of the SistineChapel.
What other?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
color smokes do they have?
They have black smoke if theydon't select.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
If they're killing the next vote, if it goes on for
another day, that's wild.
So it's like kind of liketraitors like Brandy Glanville
and Dylan Efron would haveslayed.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I love this, Like okay, so traitors.
It's like the original survivor.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Wow, so like once you get anointed the pope, you're
the pope until you die, correct?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But you have to be like over 60 years old or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
To be like over 60 years old, or something like
that, do you have to have beenin the you know what?
Let me stop asking you allthese questions.
I can google it myself.
Okay, because I want to go backto the busy few weeks that we
had.
What was your favorite activityor thing that you did last week
, since you were so busy?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I went on a date, okay.
So we went to terra Plata for alittle rooftop drink.
I need to add that to my new app?
Yes, you do.
Rooftop glass of wine.
And then things were going well.
Actually, it was so cute.
We sat down next to this oldercouple that were probably in
(05:20):
their 70s, had grew up and livedin Washington Seattle
Washington for their entirelives and they started chatting
with us.
I wasn't really sure how thedate was going until the woman
asked like, oh, is this a firstdate?
I wasn't really sure if it wasthe first date either, because
he works at the company that Iwork for, and so I wasn't really
(05:42):
sure if it was a date or not.
But then the old lady asked andwe both were kind of like,
looked at each other, like notsure who's gonna say what first,
and then he was like yeah whichlove because you get
confirmation that doesn't needto be like is this a date?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
but I don't understand why you decide, if
it's a date, like if it's goingwell, like oh, it's a date.
But then, like, you're stilldoing the same activity, and if
it didn't go well, you're like,oh no, it wasn't a date.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't, yeah, I don't well, I guess a date for
me is defined by whether or not,like, you're trying to find out
if there is some romanticinterest.
So I wasn't sure if we werejust going as like, co-workers,
friends, buddies, because thatwas kind of the vibe that I was
getting Amigas, cheetahs, yeah,and then which we were also,
(06:28):
like you know, spilling the teaon our axis All at once, yeah,
because you know we've knowneach other for a long time,
right, and he's yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
He knew who you were with before.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, so he answers oh, and then I was like okay,
now I need to like step it up anotch.
So then I took him to thisplace called inside passage,
which is like a speakeasy insideof a bar in capitol hill, and,
um, I was like okay.
Then now this is like really adate love because you got the
confirmation correct.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
did you feel like it, you acted?
Or you got the confirmationCorrect.
Did you feel like you acted oryou treated the interaction
differently after he confirmedit was a date?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
In what way?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
At first I was just like kiki-ing and having a great
time, but then I was likebiting my lip and being a little
more flirty and touchy andkissy.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh yeah, you did kiss .
Yeah Well, you tried to kisshim and then he moved his cheek.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, and you were like I loved him real time.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You were like no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And then you made out so basically, yeah, we gave
each other a goodbye kiss and hegave me his cheek and I was
like, no, not after a date likethat.
We had so much fun, and so thenI forced him to kiss me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So you're going to see him again.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah Well, we work together.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
so hope it's not awkward?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What was your favorite Good question?
I didn't know if you were goingto propose it to me, so I was
just going to start answering.
My good friend, Austin cameinto town again.
He is my straight friend that Imet right before nursing school
and we've just been pals sincethen.
He's working for a job out here, but he came into town.
We went to Thai food and then aspeakeasy bathtub, co gin.
(08:20):
Bathtub gin yeah and co.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yep.
But also we got to talk aboutthe thai place because it is
like my favorite thai place inI've never even heard of it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He's the one who suggested is it bang?
Tack, did you add that to yourapp?
Yes, I did.
I added a photo.
Yeah, because I had it recently.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Bang, tack is something like that bang thrak,
bang that.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Ooh, bang that, bang that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Bang that, but yeah, again I had my second peanut
sauce.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Arguably, this one was much better because it
wasn't a frozen meal, and then Itold Caleb this and I feel like
the audience would agree withme and tell me if you don't.
But you can judge how good aThai place is based on their
peanut sauce Bang rack, bangrack.
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah, and I'm glad that you gotto experience a really good
peanut sauce, because it'simportant when it comes to Thai.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, and it was.
So.
I stay getting pineapple friedrice and I'm a level one because
I'm a wimp when it comes tospice.
I don't want pain, I don't wantto burn.
Anyway, that was a good softopen and that's it, folks.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's the end of the soft open and I'll play the
music.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, I've ended it well, before you play that music
uh oh, so it's not over no, notyet um today's mother's day.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh yeah, you called your mother mother's day I
called my mother and you calledyour sister.
You know what?
She had a great day and evening.
Last night she went up to um,the oakland hills with her
sister and she made her dinner.
My sister, my, my aunt made mymom is this model aunt?
Yeah, hot and, uh, aunt karen,and then they went on a walk
(10:05):
this morning and, yeah, she hada lovely day and I sent her some
shoes from Nordstrom.
Love For.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Mother's Day Like a heel.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
My sister and I split them, but yeah, Isn't she
unemployed?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Don't include that.
Was it a heel?
Was it a sneaker?
She got her tax return.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So she's like I'm rich.
I was like don't spend it allin one place.
She called me today and she waslike should I buy a Vitamix
blender?
It's $200 off, it's only $350.
I was like A thousand percentshe should.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's not what I said.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
She should call me next.
Yeah, I know I'm like put $350in your retirement account,
bitch.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, love.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What'd you do?
What'd your mom do?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What kind of shoe Was it?
A heel, a sneaker, a wedge, aflat?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It was a hoku or not a hoku, hoka.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Hoku Running shoes, walking shoes.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Lots of nurses wear them and I think they're fugly,
Something that she could wearfor work.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Let me take it back.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
They're not fugly In the garden.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I called my mother, I called my sister.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I think they're fugly but they are fugly, they're
just too thick.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Get a new balance.
Yeah, get a shape up or the oncloud.
Those are my favorite.
I like those any who's there's?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
um, I called my mother and she.
They were having lunch with mysisters there, my nana's there.
Those are all like my immediatemothers in my life, so I got to
facetime them and then my momfacetimed me and showed me my
niece was walking.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh wow just a few steps, wow, yeah, just a few
steps.
And then she falls, correct,yeah, but she gets back up again
.
She, okay, but also shout outto all the other moms out there
and our parents, single parents,playing the role.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They're still moms if they're single parents well,
what if it's a single dadraising them?
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
then they have father's day.
What about?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
what the heck is there a gender gender neutral
day?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
parents day, but shout out to my aunt, who also
helped raise me.
I love brushing her hair as alittle kid, as a little gay boy,
just like give me that brushand she had this long blonde
hair and I would just like brushit I would do the same thing
with my nana, but she had a bobso it wasn't long hair to brush,
but like that doesn't soundthat fun and then someone broke
into her house and stole mycaboodle what, what, like your
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whole kit and caboodle my wholekit and caboodle I had my
hairbrush and all my hair tiesin it oh my God.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And whenever they stole, they stole other stuff,
of course, but my caboodle.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You were doing your grandma's hair with your
caboodle.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, wow you were a hairstylist even back.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But it was clear and see-through, like you could see
that it was hair stuff and youstole it.
This hairbrush meant so much tome.
It had like one of those, likegrippy, squeezy handles.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, like Conair or something.
It was Conair, it was great.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, cue the music Soft open's open, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
but also shout out to my mom's best friend from high
school that she's still friendswith and lives in Sonoma.
She took me in when my brotherwas living with us and we ran
out of bedrooms Zelda.
And yeah, her name's Nicole, soshe's another mom figure for me
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.
Yeah, her name's nicole, soshe's another mom figure for me.
Shout out to terry in northcarolina, who housed me after I
had an existential crisis anddidn't know what to do when I
graduated college I think you'vementioned that on the pot
before yeah, but I just wantedto, you know, say her name and,
um, you know what, shout out tomother earth because she's been
doing some great things for uslately with this weather,
especially this last week.
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Girl, the sun has been out, thetulips are in full bloom,
daffodils are popping up.
You've been in your crop tops.
I have lots of crop tops.
Abercrombie Love, yeah.
So now cue the music.
Where does it go?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That was like Star Wars Great.
Does it go?
I don't know that was like starwars great, okay, well, um, I
would love to introduce thetopic again this week, like I,
did last week since I'm notactually hosting one of these
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days, I will um.
So this week we well, on thispodcast, it's after the week
that we tried alternatives toalcohol, whether that be for a
week, yes, for a week food,drinks, gummies, just things
that and you know, we didn'tjust replace it with like wheat
or anything.
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That's some of that, but wetried a bunch of different ones
and this week we want to talkabout our experience and if we
recommend them, because I havethe names, the ingredients and
kind of our thoughts on the weekyou know, I do want to just
like go back to cold opening fora second okay, no because that
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one week that I did nothing wasthe week that we were not we're
abstaining from alcohol.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think I was here all week too, and then the week
after, no, I'm like every weekI'm putting it like two and two
together, like, yeah, I had likealcohol every single day.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Bus club, another club, another drink, another
drink, another date.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Right, truly yeah I mean, we started off.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We started off that week with cinco de mayo, and we
were like tequila yes, that wasmonday.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Cinco de mayo was monday and we started with
tequila, which I don't evendrink, but I was like I'm
deprived you didn't have alcoholthat like this past friday,
though, because you know you didyou had wine yeah, I did, yeah,
I did anyways.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So so we're tying soft open into the topic this
week.
Yeah, and I because I knowwe've talked about alcohol, dry
January, our viewpoints onalcohol.
How dry January impacted you.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah and even like from season one, I think, when
we just talked about more of,like, our dependence on alcohol
and all that kind of stuff yeah.
But to give you guys a littlebit of backstory and we've
talked about this in pastepisodes, but basically Caleb
ordered all of these drinks fromthe interwebs that have.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Functional mushrooms, CBD, THC, other alcohol
alternative ingredients.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So we tried all of them.
Well not all of them on themarket.
We tried all the ones weordered Right.
We're going to tell you alittle bit about how they made
us feel and etc.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Thank you for giving different wording to my
explanation.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yours is always more summarized.
I don't know what the PewResearch Center is, but to start
this topic, off.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's kind of like Gallup.
You know what Gallup is?
No, but I did see that wordLike a Gallup poll.
Okay, it's a data sciencecenter.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, I don't know where they asked them.
If it was in the mail, online,probably online.
Um, according to the 2023research study, 38 percent of
the us abstain from alcohol.
That's people 21 and up.
What percentage was it 38?
Wow, that's a lot, I know, Iexpected it to be less.
Yeah, I should have looked moreinto it to see, like broken
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down, like age groups, because,like we talked about Gen Z, I
feel like there's more of aconversation about alcohol
alternatives, which makes sensewhy we're seeing products now.
Yeah, let's start with.
The first thing that I orderedwas the Moonwalk canned drinks.
Yes, and those had.
There was three different onesuh, just only functional
mushrooms.
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Then there was a mushrooms plusfive five milligrams of THC.
And then the third one was, uh,mushrooms plus plus 10
milligrams of THC, and the mainingredients were lion's mane and
reishi reishi mushrooms.
So lion's mane can be a helpfulalternative to alcohol by
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offering potential cognitive andmood-boosting benefits without
the negative side effects ofalcohol.
It helps with mood regulation,reduces stress and improves
focus and memory.
And improves focus and memory.
And the other main ingredient,reishi mushrooms, have been
shown to promote relaxation,improve sleep quality.
Their calming effect can bebeneficial for those struggling
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with anxiety-related insomnia.
So you tried them.
Did you try?
I don't think you tried the.
I tried the five milligram oneand the regular one.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Thoughts Okay, my thought about the mushroom only
one was that it didn't tastethat great.
No, it tasted kind of like aLaCroix, but like not a good
flavor LaCroix.
It was cherry blossom, uh-huh,a little too perfumey and also
had like absolutely no effect asfar as um feeling anything I
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also agree it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I didn't feel a damn thing.
What I will say about it,though, is the activity of
drinking.
It did help me replace having aglass of wine, correct, yeah,
yeah, and then I think honest,because it's a prebiotic also, I
just found out and.
And with it being bubbly, likemy stomach can't handle that
much of the bubbly.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Meaning it didn't feel good in your mouth and
didn't feel good in your stomach.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, but it was almost like putting cotton balls
in your stomach if you'rehungry, like you feel full but
you don't have any food in there.
So I guess it's the same way.
It upset my tummy enough whereI didn't drink any wine, so I
guess it did its job, butmentally, did nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Did you not drink the wine because your brain was
telling you you're not allowedto drink the wine, or because
your stomach was telling you?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Oh my brain, because I knew we weren't drinking wine
that week.
But I went to bed I was like,oh, I'm content, we weren't
drinking wine.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That week.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But I went to bed I was like oh, I'm content With an
upset stomach.
Yeah, okay, that doesn't soundlike content to me, but like
content like without having wineto wind down.
I guess I was like well, okay,I can go to bed.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I had half of one of the five milligram, which
was what was the flavor, calledBlueberry peach, blueberry
peach it, which was what was theflavor called blueberry peach
blueberry peach?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
that it did not taste like that, no, that's for sure.
But the best flavor was the 10milligrams, and it was prickly
pear oh, yeah, but the blueberrypeach again.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It was so many bubbles yeah, I would say all in
all kind of a boot, not not atoot, but a boot.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I wouldn't order them again because they were like
decently pricey, weren't theyfor For like those three cans, I
want to say it was like almost$80, like $75 or $80.
Gasp yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Did you get those in the mail?
Yeah, how does that work?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I have no idea.
That is weed sent in the mail.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But I definitely did feel like kind of buzzy from
half of the five milligram onewhich I'm very sensitive to the
weed.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So I want to confirm how much.
There's definitely something inthere.
Yes, I want to confirm how.
Oh, so for a 12 pack so it wasfour of each of the three
flavors was 76 US dollars Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, that's, that's pricey.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes.
And then considering a bottleof wine is you 20 bucks I mean
period.
Yeah, for the amount ofbeverages that it gave 12
beverages.
A box wine, that's 20 bucksthat gets you way more drinks so
that is a boot.
If we're comparing it to likedoes it actually replace or do
you actually feel a difference?
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I think we boot those.
I think so too I won't berepurchasing nor using it as an
alternative Period.
Do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
yours next, the one that I purchased is called Aplos
, and it came in a variety offlavors four different flavors
and they're all sort of likemocktail in cans, and the one
that I'm drinking right now iscalled a mandora negroni, but it
really tastes more like uh,hold on, let me, let me taste it
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oh you, let me try it.
It has like a it's more like aaperol sp yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Does it have licorice-y?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, there is one, is it the?
Fucking cola the cola um colafashioned instead of old
fashioned which is supposed to,you know, have some sort of like
you know, relation toold-fashioned, but it was
disgusting.
Yeah, but the aperol spritz iswhat I'll call this.
I would say like, all in all,the flavors were like the best
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substitute for an actualcocktail there was a margarita
flavor.
There's a chili margarita which,or, yeah, chili margarita, and
it was so good and like reallylight and refreshing.
Um, I feel like you didn'treally miss the tequila in it,
nor do you miss the you knowalcohol in this um spritz.
There's also one called an umespritz.
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I forget what it tastes like,but um very memorable yeah but I
would say my favorite flavorswere the mandora negroni and the
chili margarita.
Yeah, I would say, all in all,these have absolutely no effect,
um, cognitively or like as faras like feeling anything in your
body or your brain.
Um, but I would say, just as afun alternative, like the
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flavors are really good and theyhave six to ten grams of sugar
and no added sugars.
So they're all, like you know,from natural, like juices and
stuff, but they actually tastelike a real cocktail.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So would you say it's similar to like non-alcoholic
beer, like as a replacement,like to be doing the activity
but not any functional cognitiveeffects?
Absolutely yeah, I would agree.
I didn't like those.
I felt less than any of theother.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh yeah, so that's also a boot I think I would give
it a two for the flavors.
Oh, that's fair, because youhave been drinking what about?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm not?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
always looking for like a cognitive high when I,
when I am trying to like relax,sometimes it's nice just to have
a cocktail would you grab those?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
or the non-alcoholic beer by Tom Holland?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
B-R-O.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
It just depends.
Are you in the mood for a beer?
Are you in the mood for acocktail?
Well, now, you have one of each.
I know I have like some prettysolid, like tasting alternatives
.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Did you get those on Amazon, the Negroni ones, yep
tasting alternatives.
Did you get those on Amazon,the Negroni ones, yep oh which
is love.
Okay, so that's a two for theflavor and for, like it,
replacing a drink but not havingany cognitive effects.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, it's like if you don't want to have a soda
water and a lime, you know it's.
I feel like I would have thisat a bar.
Oh, I love that, so I wouldhave this at a bar.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh, I love that.
So the next one, which did youeven try the three spirit?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
like the spirit alternatives, I tasted it when
you made a cocktail with it.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So I ordered like a starter kitand it was like identified as
livener, social and nightcap.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What's the brand called?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Three spirit Okay, livener, social and nightcap.
What's the brand called?
Uh, three spirit okay.
And the livener?
It was described as energized,juicy and fiery.
The social was floaty, herbalbliss.
A nightcap was calm, woody,mellow.
I think.
You tried the nightcap, onewhich I think was like a whiskey
alternative.
Right since it's like anightcap yeah, yeah.
And then Live and Earn Social.
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I tried those.
One of them is like a rum ortequila alternative.
And then I know one of them isa vodka alternative.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I didn't feel a damn motherfucking thing, I also
didn't like the flavor of it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It was like someone made tea, used the used tea bag,
put it into this whateverconcoction, and then you mix it
with like seven up and you'relike it tastes like tree bark
yeah, and I just like have aproblem with it being advertised
as an alternative to tequila orrum or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But it doesn't taste anything like tequila or rum or
whatever.
So it's like if there are like,um, non-alcoholic spirits out
there that taste like tequila,that are non-alcoholic, so like
if I want to make a margaritaand I'm trying to add some like
viscosity, like thickness to thedrink, but also like that kind
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of blue agave flavor, then youcan use something like that.
So I feel like it's kind offalse advertising to say, oh,
this is like a good alternativeto whiskey and you can make an
old fashioned with it.
It doesn't taste anything likewhiskey.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I agree, and it also costs $60.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, for that little kit.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So, that's a boot, but it reminded me of what was
the Saint saint, something thatwe got for david's little saint
little saint yeah, um which Ipulled up because I was a big
fan of those what?
Because it also, like, tastedsimilar to gin gin, okay,
because not like it had the same.
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So I think it's a betteralternative, although, like
despite if the ingredients madeyou feel anything, because it
tasted like what it said it was.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, so I like that Little Saint and I did
definitely feel an effect fromLittle Saint gin.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I agree.
I wish we should have orderedit again.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I felt a little more social and it almost felt like a
little intoxicating, like drunkalmost, but without feeling as
slow or as inebriated.
I guess in a way you kind ofkeep your wits about you.
Your frontal cortex is stillfunctioning, but you just kind
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of feel a little bit more closewith the people around you and a
little more, I guess, lessanxious yeah, because we went
through that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, because we had like a cocktail or two with it
for david's birthday and then Ithink, like that, took up a lot
of the bottle and then I thinkafter, like you, I think you did
it once while we were here, butthen, like before going
somewhere, I think you had oneand I think you quite enjoyed it
.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, I also agree, I think that the social aspects
for sure, but then like therewas like a little fun fuzzy, but
it wasn't like yeah, likebuzzing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So I think that is a repurchase, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I think that's a toot .
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes, Mm I think that's a toot.
Yes, what that one reminds methe most of which is our
favorite product ever, but alsovery much on this topic it
wasn't new to us, it's somethingthat we've had before are the
road tripping gummies?
Those are also functionalmushrooms no psilocybin in them
and I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So they're legal mom.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, and they give 50 off to health care workers
literally like every singleorder they're basically free for
you I know they're like 30bucks for eight and for me
through you period they're like30 bucks for eight of the
gummies and I get them 15, andit's like you upload your
nursing license one time, whichis also just wild like there's a
part of my brain that's like,yeah, there's a government gonna
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come after you wait there's nolike illegal ingredients in this
, and it'slike all like herbs and stuff or
mushrooms, but like no cellist,it was just it mind fucks me.
Yeah.
So I'm like I'm uploading mynursing license.
I'm like, here you go, don'tcome for me okay.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But like also the effects, like the, the brain
effects that they have by havingone little gummy and I usually
will just have like a half ofone and I feel like like all of
my social anxiety is gone.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I have, um, I feel very social, um that's with or
without drinking correct yeah,yeah, because you've also you've
had it before without whenyou're on your juice cleanse
yeah you only had those and wentout with other people that were
drinking yeah, and it's veryfun I remember when we tried
them for the first time you havea whole one.
Oh my god, oh my god, I know Ilove them and you can take up to
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eight.
It says, yeah, like there'slike a guide, that's like what
type of field do you want for a?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
high dose, but that I would.
I've never had more than oneand a half.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And so I looked up what the main mushroom is in
this one.
Okay, and it's Amanita muscaria.
Okay, and so for this one, itmimics alcohol's relaxing
effects.
Some users report feelings ofrelaxation, euphoria and reduced
anxiety after consuming thesegummies relaxation, euphoria and
reduce anxiety after consumingthese gummies.
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The active compounds in thismushroom there's some big words
there interact with the GABAsystem, which also is affected
by alcohol potentiallycontributing to these effects.
These effects are oftendescribed as milder than the
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intoxication from alcohol,offering a potentially safer and
less disorienting alternative.
But did you know that they'retoxic?
What do you mean?
This mushroom is toxic, so it'sconsidered toxic, and improper
preparation or dosage can leadto adverse effects, including
nausea, vomiting, confusion andeven more serious health issues,
which there have been a time ortwo, that I feel like mild
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nausea if I take it on an emptytummy.
Have you felt that?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So we're poisoning ourselves?
I think so, but so is I mean.
So is alcohol, I guess that'strue, it's not federally
regulated.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Some states have restrictions and it's banned in
Louisiana, wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, someone's caught on.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, but I I think that out of everything on this
list, they're definitely myfavorite, because what I've used
them for quite a bit recentlyis first dates are like dates in
general, because I feel likethey do a good job of like not
disorienting you at all, butlike almost like any lick of
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anxiety masking it and you justlike are being fully present in
yourself.
There's just weird connect.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I enjoy it yeah, also for me.
I feel like I don't want todrink, or I don't want to drink
as nearly as much, or becauseyou kind of like, keep your wits
about you.
It's like, oh, I'm fine withjust having like one drink.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Or none, because I don't feel like the social
anxiety to drink or, you know,pressure to drink when everyone
else is drinking around me.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, it's just.
It's weird to me because, likeall these other things, I feel
like we're trying to make as areplacement that like that were
on the list and that I thinktruly I could go out and only
have that and be content becauseyou have done that, I've done
it and definitely not drink less, especially like at concerts
and stuff, but I it'll foreverbe a repurchase yeah so road
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trip and gummies, you should buythem, and if you're a health
care worker, upload thatcertification.
The government can track youyeah, so when it is illegal,
they can terminate your licensecorrect well, if I only use one
of my license, the other oneswould say now that I know that
it's banned in louisiana, I wantto stock up because you think
it's coming for everywhere?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I don't know but I think the government currently
has more problems than road tripgummies right now.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Right, you know what?
I should have also looked up tosee if there's any negative
reviews or horror stories, butthat would have been fun, but
where I meant to say where weget it 50% off is on Earth
Wellness, not through roadtripping website itself, which
they're an authorized seller.
But that sounded so canned.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That sounded so canned like influencer and I did
not mean that well, I do wantto introduce a new segment that,
um, I'm calling pop psychology,because there are things
throughout the day in the brainof kyle where I just like pop
into these little like ummoments, psychology research,
like researcher mode, and one ofthem popped up last week as I
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was thinking about this upcomingepisode.
But it also popped up becausethere's a song called Cognitive
Dissonance and it's by SophieHollohan, hollohan, hollohan.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
With a D or no D Hollohan.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
H-O-L-L-H-A-N.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Holohan, yeah, and the song is like great, it's a
great little bop.
But cognitive dissonance is likean actual psychology term and
basically it's like when youractions and your beliefs don't
align, then your brainexperiences some sort of like
discomfort and so, in order tolike reduce that discomfort, you
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engage in like these thinkingpatterns to resolve those
feelings.
So, essentially, when you act ina way that doesn't align with
your beliefs, that createscognitive dissonance.
And dissonance is like whenthings are not aligning or they
sound bad together, but it'slike the opposite of harmony,
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right.
So you try to resolve thosenegative feelings that you have
when your actions and yourbeliefs are not in alignment,
right?
So, like, the classic exampleis when someone who thinks that
smoking is really bad smokes acigarette, they have like one.
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They can choose like one of afew different ways to like
resolve that dissonance so theycan either quit smoking and say
that they're never going tosmoke again, or they can kind of
downplay the negative healtheffects that they know are
associated with smoking.
Oh, so they're either going tochange their belief system or
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kind of disregard science andwhat culture is telling them
about, whatever they did, orthey're going to change their
behavior to go to align withtheir beliefs or the cultural
standard.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It does.
That's very interesting,Honestly so, when you were
talking about cognitivedissonance, correct, it reminds
me of a definition I've heard ofI don't remember what it was,
it may have been Brene Browntalking about guilt is when your
actions and values don't align.
And so that's what I wasthinking of the entire time.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, it's similar.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Because so, like I have to help people through a
lot of guilt at work, and so ifsomeone's like, are they going
to die?
And I'm like, should I come orshould I not?
And I'm always like, will youfeel guilty if you weren't here
to say goodbye?
And if there's like, oh, Idon't know, come anyway.
But if there's like, oh, I don'tknow, come anyway, but if
there's like, oh, 100%, no, I'mfine, then okay, then maybe
don't come.
And that's how I help peopledecide if they're going to come
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visit their loved one beforethey die or not.
But I almost feel like peoplewho are like, no, I'm fine, but
then they secretly do have guilt.
They are almost downplaying it.
It's like oh well, I you knowjust this christmas or I, you
know I already I went all theway out there and every time I
called, they never answer thephone, or so it's in my brain,
that's cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, that latter one oh my god,look at me, yeah, so that's
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what I was thinking of theentire time.
So do you think that, becauseguilt is like a big, heavy
emotion that I feel like is more, is more infrequent probably
than the actions you were justtalking about?
Because I feel like you know,someone could go to a club and
smoke a cigarette and then startdownplaying it or something?
Or like oh, I was drunk or itwas this.
(37:53):
Whereas guilt, you know, tendsto be heavier situations.
So do you feel like?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, maybe guilt is more like emotionally based.
Cognitive dissonance is morebehavioral based reasoning and
logic.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're pulling from, like your logic brain, not your
emotion bank.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
When was the most recent timethat you experienced cognitive
dissonance?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
What a question what?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
That is not a question I ever thought would
come out of my head.
What is the most recent timeyou experienced cognitive
dissonance.
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, the reason that I chose this word for pop
psychology is because I feellike it ties into us taking a
week off of alcohol, because weknow.
Why are we taking a week off ofalcohol?
Because alcohol is bad for usand you know.
(38:45):
If you are, are we downplayingthe health side effects of
alcohol and how much we drink?
I don't know what the answer is, but I think that it there's
definitely like some discomfortin the collective conscious,
like around at least the US, ifnot around the world, around how
much people drink and how weperceive alcohol and what we use
(39:08):
it for.
And I see some sort of, likeyou know, resolution coming, but
I'm not exactly sure where youknow it's going, where that
resolution is going to land.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You know it's wild.
So I was sitting here talkingabout, we were talking about all
the things that we tried thatwe wouldn't repurchase, and I
was even like it has this manygrams of carbs or like this
amount of sugar, and I'm saying,oh, I would never repurchase
that.
How many times has vodka doneme dirty?
How many times have I've workedup so hungover and like all
that this toxin we put in ourbody and I and I'm like not even
(39:44):
.
I'm like, oh yeah, like Iprobably will.
I mean, we'll order anotherdrink in my life, but like this,
I'm like, oh, I'll never orderagain and I'm like because of
the carbs or the sugar, and I'mlike girl the alcohol is a sugar
what the alcohol in that liquoris awful for your body.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
You could probably stick with the a few grams of
carbs versus drinking the liquorand I'm just like, and that,
that's exactly that through ityeah, okay, that leads me to my
second um point within cognitivedissonance, um adam grant,
who's like a really famous umpsychologist, who does more like
(40:21):
organizational psychology butalso BFFs with um Brene Brown.
He talks a lot in his book umthink again on this concept
called doubling down andbasically let me pull up my
notes here.
Doubling down is apsychological trap where people
(40:45):
continue investing time, moneyor effort in a bad decision long
after it's apparent that it's alosing course of action.
So basically like what you'resaying about you know alcohol,
like well, I'm so invested inalcohol and I know that alcohol
is a good time and I know thatI'm going to go back to it, so
why invest any interest, time,money in an alternative?
(41:10):
That gave me a stomachache onetime.
It's basically like your braindoubling down on things that
don't reasonably make senseduring a state of cognitive
dissonance I do be doubling down, yeah in general, uh-huh, but
like the like, the broader, likeapplications of cognitive
(41:32):
dissonance and doubling down, Ithink, is like, so present right
now in pop culture, in politics, politics for sure, um, in like
religion, as we're talkingabout, about the Pope, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I like this new segment.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
It's very thought provoking.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And like how like my brain goes to like everyday life
, and then how applicable is itnow, especially with all the
shit that us as a country, or ashumans worldwide, have been
through the last few years?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, about some other examples that you hear or
you see kind of in the worldaround us as it relates to
cognitive dissonance and thingsthat you're struggling with as
far as resolving that internalconflict in your brain when your
(42:27):
beliefs and actions don't align.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I feel like I get a little bit of therapy each time
you bring up a psychology topic,love.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, let's get into victory.
Advice you can go first okay,my victory, what so?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I think we've mentioned it before that I
started this breakup bucket listthis time last year went awry,
went off book, off script, ifyou will.
Um, but I completed somethingon it for the first time in a
long time last week.
What was it?
I got a colonic and it was thatthe booty hole?
Yes, so I was actually talkingabout it at softball today and
(43:02):
someone was like don't you haveto wait to like 60 plus it's?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
not a colonoscopy.
It's not a colonoscopy.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
so a colonic is basically you're like not
stirrups, but like there's acontraption where you're laying
down and your butt is kind ofover a commode and I don't know
if my nursing friends will getit Like is there a?
Toilet underneath you?
Yeah, because then it goes intoa clear tube so you can see
what's coming out of your body.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
And the clear tube goes into the toilet that you're
squatting on top of in stirrups.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Well, you're like laying over it, I don't know how
to explain it.
It's almost like.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
It's like a doctor's chair.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Me trying to explain a pap smear.
Never have had one, never will.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
But like you, like Google Pornhub colonics, you
think anything would come up.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Oh, I guarantee you there would be.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And you could see it.
Well, you know what you knowcontraption You're getting into
it, but I think so.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
There's a few different kinds, like there's
some that have like a hosedirectly to your bottom.
This one was like over like atoilet-ish Like you're laying
down, though, okay.
And On your back or yourstomach, yeah on your back and
for the nursing friends it's ayonker or yonk hour.
However people pronounce it,it's the same thing that they
use to suction out your mouthLike if you're like in the
hospital or something.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
In dentist yeah, different.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Okay, it's like this plastic.
It looks exactly like it is ayonker, but anyway it's teensy
tiny, probably like like amarker that's not like a crayola
marker, like one of those likeadult coloring book markers like
a sharpie.
There we go better.
Let me explain it the long wayaround.
It's that and it literally goesin your butt like maybe half an
inch, okay, and so, and then itclips into what you're laying
on.
So like the over the toilet,like there's a thing to clip it
(44:41):
so water is continuous, youcan't move well, like you could,
but like it's, even if youdefecate, because you defecate
around it, like it doesn't comeout.
But like I was like, oh my god,is it not going to come undone?
But it would only come undoneif I got up off the table, got
it and so, like, as you'rereleasing yourself, it's not
pushing it out, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So then it doesn't go like down your legs or anything
no, because you're like inthese turps, your legs are up
and then like literally run downyour butt, crack.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
No, like the way that the angle that you're laying at
it goes straight in, okay, butum, for 40 minutes you get this
like body temperature waterthat's going in and the longer
you can hold it and you feelyou'll feel like mild cramping,
that like higher up in yourcolon, it goes okay.
So the idea is it it's notgonna remove all of it, because
(45:28):
I don't know, that's probably.
I don't know who's gonna holdthat much water in their butt,
but, um, some, professionals thelonger you hold it, the more
stool and toxins it's going toget out.
Although I'm glad I don't have atapeworm, I was hoping for
something a little dramatic thatI'd get a photo of to post on
our blog.
Did you take a photo of it?
Yeah, afterwards I took a smallvideo of it going.
(45:50):
Oh my God, Because it'sconstantly going through that
clear tube.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
So it's not like it stays there.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Basically it's just like a douche that is like
constantly running and it goesway high up, uh-huh so my
positive experience was I lostfour pounds I weighed myself.
You were full of shit, I'mliterally full of shit.
Before and after weighed myself, lost four pounds.
Um, I've always felt likemildly bloated ish, just cause
like after different.
You know, you see my diet youfelt snatched and there was not
(46:22):
a lick of bloat in this body.
Not a lick of bloat, shit,nothing.
And I was like wait.
And then I was.
I was my friend who I used towork with.
She's about to get married.
I was like you have to do thisbefore your wedding.
Like the day before yourwedding, like you need to lose,
like you're feeling a littlebloated, snatch Whoa.
And so I looked up like the um,uh proposed benefits of this
(46:47):
and Is this your victory?
Yes, Okay, um, removal of toxinsand waste, uh, improved
digestion and elimination,enhanced and elimination,
enhanced nutrient absorption,boosted energy levels, weight
loss, improved immunity andmental clarity.
Detoxification Because, like,if you think, like if your
diet's not that great and you'reputting stuff in your body that
you know is not great cognitivedissonance you're like oh, it's
(47:09):
fine, at least I'm not doingcrack.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I feel like that's such an acceptable version.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
That is your brain.
This, I feel like that's suchan acceptable version.
That is your brain.
This is your brain.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
On crack Right and so it's clearing all of it out and
you're like, it's like.
You're a born again Christian.
I'm a born again healthy person.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Your colon was baptized.
It was, it was Is it holy water.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
It was wonderful and I got this deal on Groupon,
which I fucked with the Grouponand it's usually because I was
supposed to get an ionic footbath, but I went there like at
six and they closed at seven andlike I was finishing up and I
was like I'm not like this poorwoman.
I'm not gonna make her stay.
It was phenomenal and I'm gonnamake you go again.
You go and I will go again, butyou have to go.
(47:52):
It's European RejuvenationCenter, European Rejuvenation
Center in Bellevue.
Okay, my girl Celine been doingit since 2007.
Dion no.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Imagine.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
She's like this cured my muscular disease.
What did she?
Speaker 3 (48:08):
have.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Something like that.
But she was so wonderful, shewas like you poop, I poop,
everyone poops, poop is poop, Idon't care, and I was like I
feel safe.
Does she have an accent?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yes, I couldn't tell you what.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
And then I put like a little warm, what is a heated?
What is that thing you put onyour back?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
A heating pad.
A heating pad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
And then like a little massage gun, so you
really break up the stool, youput it, move it around on your
stomach.
Kyle, I'm a stomach kyle.
I'm gonna have to look up howfrequently I can go back.
I will be back in thosestirrups okay, so that's my
victory.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Kyle was your victory okay, yeah, april is like
volunteer month or somethinglike that how do you know that?
Yes, it is yeah, because you'resupposed to like spend april,
you know, out there volunteeringand giving back to the
community and all that stuff wejust recognized our volunteers.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
That's how okay, I know, okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Well, um at work.
We coordinated some likevolunteering efforts and you can
kind of choose your ownadventure.
You can go plant trees, or youcan go garden, or you can, you
know, do this, that and theother.
I chose to um prepare a meal tobe delivered to a LGBTQ plus,
(49:19):
QIA plus group home that, youknow, helps homeless youth.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Unhoused.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Thank you.
Unhoused or people who, justlike you know, don't feel safe
in their own home.
So I made Chili's egg rolls yousure did yeah, I did and got
all the ingredients and friedthem up and, um, yeah, drop them
off, along with, you know, myother coworkers um Mexican
(49:52):
add-ins, enchiladas andguacamole and all that kind of
stuff, and, yeah, it was justlike fun to do something that I
like to do to help give back,and it was like so easy and so
heartwarming.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I love that.
I remember you making them Like.
You made like two full sheetsof it right.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, unfortunately I did not get to have one, so I
hope it didn't cause anyindigestion or problems with
people's stomachs so that no oneelse had to get a colonic in
order, um, I'll have to callceline she's.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
They were deprived.
She's gonna have to do somefree, free colonics for the
lgbtqia plus kids unhoused kids.
Yeah, yeah, that was really.
I didn't know that.
Maybe you did tell me that theywere like the southwest egg
rolls, so like chilies.
Yeah, I did try the filling.
The try.
The filling was really sweet.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Maybe you did tell me that they were like the
Southwest egg rolls, so likechilies.
Yeah, I did try the filling.
The filling was really good.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I know they must have fucking loved those.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Because where are they getting chilies?
Not here, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Wait, that's really sweet.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, Did you.
How did you feel after doingthe action?
Your love language is acts ofservice and I feel like that
ties in with the volunteeractivity you chose.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It was an acts of serve.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Act of service.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Honestly, it just made me want to do it more often
, cause I was like, wow, thatwas so easy and I know that it
probably had a positive impacton, you know, the community.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Well, and you love cooking for people, so like
that's like easy no-brainer yeah, for you, yeah hey what's your
vice?
It's actually not as chaotic asmount saint felon this time,
okay, well it can't always be amountain, sometimes it's just a
mohill a valley, you gotta havevalleys mole shut up, um.
(51:34):
So I've mentioned it before.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
So I play gay softball in a league out here
which is the same for everyoneelse out there as straight
softball, but with gay peopleyes.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
LGBTQI plus individuals and we went
one-on-one today, which means wewon one, lost one Played
phenomenally in the field.
Hitting meh wasn't my strongsuit, but the first game we won
second game Catching is alwaysyour strong suit.
It is Especially after a goodclimb, baby, this glove you
can't fuck with me.
(52:06):
So I think we talked about itlast summer when I got hit in
the dick, yeah, and I wallowedon the ground for a ball and the
balls.
Yes.
And they were the size of agrapefruit, never going back
there.
I wear a cup now, but I wasplaying today and a ball took a
horrible hop.
It hit me dead, center of mycollarbone and it hurts.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Did it feel like you got hit in the funny bone?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, but good question , no you didn't flail around or
anything.
No but I also I don't know why,it's my biggest ick.
I could literally be bleedingout in the middle of a field.
As soon as people start comingover to check on me, I'm like
get away, I'm fine.
Even when I get hit in theballs, like during that inning
over the summer, I was like I'mfine, I'm going to finish the
inning.
I was in the worst pain of mylife, but even this like I
(52:52):
didn't even give myself a chanceto think I was just like.
I turned my head, thank God so Ididn't get hit in the face, and
then people started running tome before I could even.
But you didn't want to put yourglove where, no, because it
took a really bad hop and itjumped up, so my glove was down
and it hit a rock or something.
So, there was no reaction timeand so it hit me right in the
clavicle my right one and peoplestarted running at me.
(53:14):
I was like I'm fine, and then Ididn't even like assess it
until my arm hurts so bad when Imove it.
But what I will say?
Speaker 2 (53:22):
it's like getting a covid shot yeah like that kind
of pain.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah right, yeah, exactly, actually that's yeah,
maybe I got, maybe I got abooster, just yeah, but it's my
vice, because I enjoy playingsoftball but like I stay getting
fucking hurt, like I have aband-aid on this other hand, I
have scars on my elbows but wedid get that guy out at second
after it bounced off my body.
Wow, it went to the secondbasement.
He stepped on the base, so it'smy vice yeah, honestly a vice.
(53:48):
Not ending in emotional turmoilis pretty nice or anyone in
prison right yeah, or on paroleprobation, whatever.
Okay, what's your advice?
Speaker 2 (54:04):
My advice is that I joined a gym last month and I've
been a member for a month andI've gone twice.
Oh my God, the guilt, the shame.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
The shame and it's like literally right down the
road.
It's down the street and it'sthe cheapest gym membership you
could probably get in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I know and I'm like okay, okay, I went in the
morning once before work.
Before work, I was like okay, Icould do this, I actually
really enjoy this and I was likesore for like three days
afterwards.
I was like that was exhausting.
I can't believe I am this soreafter one workout.
And then I went back in theevening because I'm trying to
(54:38):
figure out like do I really wantto get up that early every day
to like work it into my routineor do I want to do it after work
?
and then when I switched toafter work, I had happy hours
and dates every single day afterwork, so I couldn't go after
work.
So now I'm, now I'm maybe goingback to before work.
I don't know, it's verydifficult.
It's hard to figure out.
(54:59):
The math is not mathing.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
As someone who's been a member of that gym for nine
years it's Planet Fitness, bythe way.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
It's nothing fancy.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
It's not like Equinox or anything wild I promise you
or swear to you.
I've probably been to the gymactual to work out less than
five times in that nine years,but like way more to tan.
That doesn't make me feelbetter.
Oh my God, you should totallywork out in the morning and do
the red light therapy.
They have red light therapybeds.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
That's not working out.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
I know, but it's one of those like where you stand on
that like shakes your wholebody, that helps your muscles
contract.
That's working out.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
No, that's not working out.
They proved in, like the 50s,when that was invented, that it
does nothing.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Okay, well, you work from home on Mondays and Fridays
, so why don't you go in themornings then, and then at least
try to go, like Wednesday,right after work?
That's a great great plan Ilike that, yeah, and then Friday
tomorrow, friday morning, I canmaybe go with you, because you
know I start remote that day.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay, great, I like to do the little
circuit.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Okay, me, who's been there less than five times in
nine years.
What do the women?
Speaker 2 (56:05):
do Kyle.
Do you remember Do not put thaton me Do you remember the gym?
It was called Curves.
Do you remember Curves?
Oh, my Curves.
Do you remember Curves?
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Oh my God, wait.
Is it Because it had a similarfont and it reminded me of
Weight Watchers?
Yeah, For some reason.
Why was it?
Maybe because they were likebranded and marketed.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Because women have curves and they're fat.
Oh, I kick up.
It's like it literally was.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
This is my last episode on the podcast.
I'm not affiliated with thatstatement.
It was the of for women.
It's like the, the the gym thatyou go to, that you don't
actually go to.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
I wonder if that was ever in seattle because, like
now, that would never happen.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah, curves, because it'd be like you with your
fucking ice skating.
You'd be up in the curves beinglike no, I want to be in here,
I deserve to be in here.
Well, I'm sure there's skinnybitches too, that go I just
admit that you're not a ciswoman.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
But yeah, oh got it.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
We should do a spin class.
I've never in my life felt moreendorphins after, but hated
life and other humans more thandeering yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Have you done one before?
Speaker 2 (57:15):
So many.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
You don't have the butt for it?
I don't.
I have a wonky hip and a back.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Okay, why don't you close this out?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Okay.
So if you enjoyed this week'sepisode, we'd love to hear about
it.
You can email us atunfamouslyunwell at gmailcom, or
send us a DM on Instagram atunfamouslyunwell, and we'd love
just to hear feedback, questions, things you want us to try.
Next, if you send us anotherfunctional mushroom, I promise I
will not buy it, but thank youfor the suggestion.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Unless you have a rave review on something that we
don't know about, then we mighttry it.
Right, I was being a hater.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
I take it back.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
But yeah, any suggestions on things you want
us to try for a week or for aspell, let us know.
But until next week we wish youwell.
Call your mother for happymother's day I love mushrooms I
hate that.
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