September 4, 2024 • 60 mins
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Have you ever sniffed out elk scat or found yourself illegally pocketing rocks from a national park? Join us as we recount our quirky and adventurous road trip to the Hoh National Rainforest, filled with memorable moments. From practicing baton routines to recounting the hilarity of "Big Mama's House," our mutual love for music serves as the soundtrack to our escapades. This episode is a heartfelt and humorous exploration of the songs that made us, reminding us of the joy in singing childhood tunes, no matter how off-key we might be.
Join us on our nostalgic journey as we relive the iconic moments from "Crossroads" and "Coyote Ugly" and the impact that Britney Spears had on us. We also celebrate the golden era of female country artists (and the US economy) like Faith Hill, Shania Twain, and The Chicks. Our musical journey wouldn't be complete without sharing the heartfelt stories that connected us to songs that give us all the feels. Don't miss the funniest Victory & Vice of the season, filled with Kyle's DIY mishaps and Kaleb's bathroom habits that will leave you laughing and nodding in agreement.
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yeah you sniffed out some elk poop earlier, I sure
did.
You just said that like I suredid.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm out here on the farm.
I mean, truly I mean, ifthere's anything about.
What's funny, though, is I waslike that's elk poop, right off
the bat.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You did know that right away.
You're like it looks like deerpoop, but it's bigger.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It must be elk.
I've never seen elk shit before, but I'm like no, that's
probably it, that's definitelyit, 100%.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Every time we stop, though, you're like I have to go
into the visitor center andthere's always like footprints
or something that you learnabout.
You know about looking out innature.
Was there one about scat?
No, because we, because I heardyou're into scat.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Apparently you have.
Whenever you say like, oh, I'mopen to trying anything, you
have to be specific no scat, noblood, no fisting, no what
Something.
There's something else.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know, honey, whatever you're not into, I know
, but will you try everythingonce?
Uh, no.
Yeah, not those, not those, buteverything else, like I've peed
on someone before.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like just her foot.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But I have a really shy bladder, so it does not go
well for me.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But what I wanted these people to hear about was I
was out here doing these people, these random people.
Well, these people, here Ourlisteners that we love and adore
, I know.
But you know what, whenever Isay things, I don't mean it
ill-intentionally.
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
word.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, you just sound With ill intent.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you just sound stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, I just get to it.
Like these people.
Hello, that I can't see, okay.
I still love you.
Anyway, I was out herepracticing my baton routines
with my stick.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You were, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Kai, you come out from around the van.
This is my rock oh yeah.
Because you told me earlier Iwas like you don't have any
rocks.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You're like I have a rock.
I brought a rock from the beach.
I'm very proud of it.
Is it illegal?
It is illegal.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, Don't tell anyone I have so many rocks
because we went rock hunting,yeah, and you found a bunch and
then I came out and I was likethis is my rock.
Rocks were my victory lastepisode.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, that's right, yeah, so I'm glad we got to
bring it up.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But then so we moved campsites.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, we went from Second Beach on the coast in La
Push and now we're in the HoNational Rainforest, thank God,
and guess what?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It's fucking raining Piss pouring.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah Wild.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
In the middle of summer In a rainforest.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In a rainforest, yeah , but in Washington, yeah.
I thought they meant like, oh,it's, you know, like a parody on
rainforest.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I don't know.
A satire, yeah, it's like ha ha, gotcha Gotcha bitch.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, that's what I was expecting.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Isn't gotcha, gotcha bitch?
Yeah, that's what I wasexpecting, what you usually say
gotcha bitch that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I feel like you read my mind all the time.
I knew what you were.
I knew what you meant like ninetimes out of ten when you say
what I'm thinking, you're right,uh-huh.
Yeah, I say like one word, it'slike name, that tune, you know
where they put like one note.
But then you know the whole youknow song you're also I go.
All I say is um then Caleb'slike, oh, you're thinking about
like your mom's birthday.
(03:06):
I'm like how did you know that?
I don't know your mom'sbirthday.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
but yeah, I could see that.
I could see it in your eyes.
I know what was it earlier.
No, it was the other night whenwe were watching Big Mama's
House and you do the same for me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'll just mention something like I can make you a
grilled cheese.
Oh right, yeah.
I was like oh my, I wonder whatI have in there to eat.
All he does is like hmm.
And I'm like are you hungry?
You want a grilled cheese?
I'll make you a grilled cheese.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And you're like that's exactly what I wanted it
sounded so wonderful at the timefor other reasons other than
Big Mama's house, but it wasjust great and that it needed.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It really did, yeah.
So what are we talking?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
about today.
We decided to talk about music,and I'm so glad that we did,
because you mentioned it as yourvictory.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I did yeah, it was inspired by my victory from the
last episode, where I'm how justlike listening to like all this
music on this road trip spurredsomething in me and made me
like very like introspective,and so we were like wouldn't it
be like really fun to like gothrough all these like songs
that are from like our past andlike talk about what they mean
(04:12):
to us and just have a littlelike flashback moment?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
yeah, because I think , for both of us, music is how.
I'm not very good at putting mythoughts into words, which
you're very well aware of, andso are they um so I think music
does that for me, these people,I said they that's all
encompassing.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm that sounds rude.
I really do love each and everyone of you, although I don't
know all 26 of you.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh, yeah, yeah well, we have more than 26 I mean,
who's counting?
You on buzzsprout, but um yousaying that it made me really
appreciate us doing it together.
Because at first I'm like Isound shitty singing, but it is
fun to sing songs from yourchildhood with someone.
(04:57):
And so today I was like you're abiggest fan.
I was like you better hit thatnote and I was like you can do
it and I said let's go back.
I want you to go higher.
You can go higher.
He was my vocal coach and thenthere were some songs you were
playing.
I just got like goosebumps too,yeah, and then got teary-eyed.
I know, every time you see,seeing, she used to be mine.
Oh, I love sarah boralis.
I know, and I didn't.
(05:17):
I had no idea what that songwas.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know that I'm in a like okay, so itunes back when
iTunes was really selling music.
Yeah, like they did a likeiTunes.
Sara Bareilles live concertspecial.
Thing.
We tried to look for it.
No, I found it and I was therewith my friend Kate and I think
I was like 16 years old orsomething, and so this is like
(05:41):
almost 20 years ago Live at theFillmore, and so this is like
almost 20 years ago, live at thefillmore and um I found like my
little 16 year old face in thecrowd, oh just a baby.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, anyways, love sir brownless uh, yes you do,
and I I kind of.
Whenever I found out that thatsong love story was kind of an
fu to her label, she's like I'mnot just gonna write you another
love story.
Yeah, does it make you love hereven more?
Yeah, yeah and then, honestly,she used to be mine.
It was gonna be up there in asong.
I'm gonna you know how I liketo cycle through songs yeah,
repetitively, repeatedly yeah orrepetitively repetitively,
(06:16):
repeatedly um, and that'sprobably gonna be my new one
that you're gonna get sick of.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
yeah, caleb picks one song and then it's blasted from
his room or from his bathroomor from his craft room.
He has three rooms that heblasts music from, and it's
usually one song on repeat for aweek.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But what I love so much is, and then it's a new one
, and they're all really good,though that's the thing I know.
It's like you have a good tastein music and I don't hate it
Because then, literally, like somany days in a row, you'll be
humming and I'm like you knowthe song?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, just not the words.
I was telling you this earlier,but, like every morning, I wake
up with a different song stuckin my head and, of course,
caleb's first question was is itlike a song that I was playing?
Because, you know, I play thesame song every single day.
And the answer is no Tell themtoday's song oh, I'm going to
light you up like it's dynamite.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Who sings that?
Jason?
No, yeah, is it Jason Derulo?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It was someone Was it like Ayaz or something,
something like that, but no,what's also my favorite thing
about you, kyle, is I will sing73 songs in a day.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And until I sing the, the next one, you will be just
humming it non-stop.
Well, I'm like a hummer, likeas a kid, like I used to get
like punished for humming.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So much yeah like my hit or like put in the corner or
like writing sentences.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
My brother's dad was like um, what's the right word?
Punishing?
No, um, I guess like homophobicand and really didn't want his
kids to do anything feminine.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh, my God, we're so going to get into that too, and
I was like humming was like notacceptable, and so I would get
spanked.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, if he ever found me humming and I'm so
musically I don't know how heputs out a response to that.
I know, isn't that awful.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I, and I'm so musically, I don't know he puts
how to respond to that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's not awful, I mean, yeah, I guess that's like
me getting in trouble forplaying with barbie dolls.
Yeah, yeah same thing, whichwe're gonna get into those
honestly though I think thatthat's why I have such a good
like falsetto is because, likewhenever we were like singing in
the car, I have to like singreally quiet and so I'd like
sing in like this higherregister that like he couldn't
hear or something like a dogwhistle dog yeah, yeah he can't
(08:29):
hear good music, so I'm gonnasing.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'll, I'll have perfect pitch and then I'll just
be disguised by Shania Twain inthe background.
G-sharp hit it.
Okay.
So the first song that I pickedis like so fucking random.
But, um, do you know whatCirque de Soleil is, caleb?
Is that like where you go tothe circus?
It's like one of the mostfamous, probably the most famous
(08:53):
circus in the entire world dothey come to tennis?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Knoxville Tennessee all over the world the world,
all over the world, is thiswhere they're like?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
hanging from ceiling.
They're doing the most amazingacrobatic performances and every
show has a different theme.
Oh my god, they did a cabinetof curiosity.
They did a whole dragon one.
There's a million differentshows.
Oh, I saw one in London thatwas going into the afterlife.
(09:23):
The visual effects are amazingand the like just circus arts of
it all is in.
There's just like nothingbetter.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The circuses I went to had a lion and then guys
riding motorcycles inside ofthis metal ball cage.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, no no, no, we got to go see Cirque du Soleil.
I'll show you some stuff onYouTube and then you'll be like
we're going see.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Cirque du Soleil.
I'll show you some stuff onYouTube and then you'll be like
we're going.
Oh, is that where people can dolike the crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
like body morphing Contortionism.
Yeah, pretzels, there was oneat one of the shows that I went
to.
Yeah, but I picked a song fromthe Cirque du Soleil show
Saltimbaco, saltimbaco.
I don't know, we'll cut thisout.
Is that English?
(10:10):
That english?
Okay, this is the like crazypart about this story.
So the song is called kumbalaway, and as a kid I like learned
the entire lyrics to the wholesong.
You would sing it.
it was like a cassette that mymom had oh my god, I would put
it in the cassette and I wouldlisten to it over and over and
over again.
I thought that I was teachingmyself french because it's
cirque de soleil, right, whichis like french.
Okay, I didn't know that, okay,okay, um, not until like
(10:33):
adulthood did I realize that,like this kumbala way song, that
I was learning like cirque desoleil, because they travel all
around the world, they don't useany particular language, they
just make up their own language.
What?
Yeah, so it's just likesyllables that are like strung
together, that like sound goodalong with the music, and so I
(10:57):
was just learning like gibberishthe entire time, and I was
literally telling everyone thatI, like, knew how to speak some
French.
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was like a six-year-old or seven-year-old.
Can you still sing it?
Probably so is this likechildhood songs?
That's where we're starting out.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, like childhood songs yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And that's the one you chose.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That was the one that I chose because I think it's
like a funny story to share.
Okay, think it's like a funnystory to share, but my other
like top choices from childhoodera were like james taylor.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You know james taylor say more.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm thinking james arthur probably.
I've seen rain, seen sunny daysthat I thought would never end
is this, this country or no,it's like Country adjacent.
It's a singer-songwriter, maybe.
Okay, so my honorable mentionsare James Taylor and Sting,
because those were, like mymom's two favorite artists, I
think, growing up.
So Fields of Gold by Sting andHandyman by James Taylor were
(12:03):
quintessential, along with mepretending to know french and
singing cirque de soleil songswhich I think, like when you're
a child, like those are the typeof like reasons why you like
music.
Yeah, it is, yeah, it's likethings that you like do with
your parents.
Like you know that they like it, so you kind of want to like it
too, so you like have somethingto talk about or like something
to like together.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
To sing in the car together.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean so it's not like kids pop no, okay, my
younger ones, I think I wentbased on just things I really
liked at the time.
So obviously my all-timefavorite movie is Cowdy Ugly.
Oh yeah, so Can't Fight.
The Moonlight was number one onthe list.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That but also that song is so good After all these
years.
It like totally changed leahryan's um career after blue to
that I know, which also I meanshe has an amazing career, like
I love her albums um, to followthat up, similar.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm not a girl, not yet a woman from crossroads.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh my god, yes honestly like that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
bring it on.
And cowdyly were the movies Ijust watched on repeat.
Yeah, so I'm Not a Girl, notYet a Woman.
That outfit at the end, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
With the peasant.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
top with the huge arms the peasant top, that's
what it was.
Is that what you call it, the?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
big arm sleeves.
That's called a peasant top.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It reminds me when people get like there's master's
degree.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
In what fashion?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
No master's degree, like in their wearing their like
gowns when they're walkingacross the stage they have, like
the big arms, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
But not a crisscross.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
That's an interesting comparison.
Okay, okay.
And then, like an honorablemention, being from the South
Redneck woman will alwaysGretchen Wilson, she will get me
high yeah.
Always will get me high.
Yeah, always.
And then I'm gonna mention onemore womanizer by Britney Spears
, because I would teach myselfchoreography and perform it for
my gosh, I can't believe youpicked Britney Spears, who you
know obviously we love in thedoor.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
but um, that's like perfect segue into my like
adolescence because, like, mytop pick was oops it Again, so
it's great.
Because you're like 10 yearsyounger than me, so I picked
like an album before.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, honestly, those people inthe early 2000s, like Tyra
Banks being on Coyote Ugly andthen Crossroads.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So like they just were getting in.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
the movies that people probably thought were not
good Changed my life.
Yeah, so you.
The movies that people probablythought were not good changed
my life yeah, so you'readolescent.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So like what?
What would you say?
Like that's preteen.
Yeah, so the reason I pickedoops, I did it again is because
I like split the time between mymom's house and my dad's house
or my brother's dad's house and,um, my brother's dad was like
very like country, like you know, religious, like.
Basically the songs have tohave like a good message,
(14:51):
otherwise we're not listening toit, right, my mom did not care,
but she was like slide it up,girl.
Yeah so I picked like songs thatwere from like my first two cds
that I ever bought.
And oops, I did it again wasnot the first cd I ever bought,
but it was the one that I couldbuy like from at my mom's house
(15:13):
and keep it at my mom's housebecause my dad, like was like do
not listen to britney spears.
Like this is terrible.
She's whipping her hair aroundon stage.
It's disgusting that's what.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's what he was upset about the hair, yeah, the
hairography that she's famousfor isn't that sad?
And in you in the car today Iwas like let's do some choreo to
this britney spears song.
Yeah, and you tried it.
You're like I can't do choreomy eyes.
I have a crink in my neck.
Is that a kink?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
yeah, I can't do hairography right now.
I have a crick crick, that'swhat I suppose.
But like kink crink crick,whatever youick, that's what I
said first, but like kink crinkcrick, whatever you want to call
it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I have a frog in my neck yeah, I think that's how
people say that or a frog in mythroat.
That's my throat, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, so, and then my second album.
The first album I ever boughtthat I kept at my dad's house
was Faith by Faith Hill.
Is that I Can Feel you Breathe?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, that's breathe.
Faith is this kiss.
Honestly, fuck it.
I don't know if we'll ever havethat female era of country like
that again.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Faith Hill Shania Twain, leigh-anne Womack, reba
Well, reba's a little earlier,but still.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Martina McBride.
Martina McBride, jodie Messina.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Jodie Messina, I mean could you imagine?
Trisha Yearwood.
They were carrying countrymusic and like having kids.
Yeah, it was the 90s, bettereconomy, I guess I know, but
like working people were buyingalbums still, not just single
songs, oh yeah they were sellingrecords.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, anything else from your um adolescence, which
is pre-teen, is that what you'recalling it?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
yeah, yeah, or teenage, teenage, years.
My honorable mentions are timmcgrath.
Just to see you smile is.
It brings me to tears everysingle time you played on the
piano too, I do, yeah, and it'sjust like.
The song is about like lovingsomeone unconditionally and
(17:10):
loving them so much that likeeven them leaving you for
someone else like makes yousmile because you know that like
they're gonna be happy I don'tknow how, kyle, you're such a
wonderful person to sit here andsay like it makes you smile,
even if someone you know you'renot no longer with them, but
they're happy.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, like, obviously , like.
I think everyone wants to feelthat way and eventually does,
but that's really hard to do.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I, I mean it's almost impossible and you're doing it.
Well, I'm trying my best.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You can do hard things.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It's not always easy.
And then Wide Open Spaces bythe Dixie Chicks, oh, so good.
And You're Still the One byShania Twain.
Those are my honorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know I saw her on the internet recently saying
that her favorite cover anyone'sever sang of that has been
teddy swims he's so good, sofucking good, yeah, and is he on
your list?
No, he should have been, but heis gonna be on my list when I
go to the hopefully fingerscrossed, to the austin city
limit fest.
Go ahead, are you intoadolescence now?
(18:13):
Well, I'm doing like coming outteen, like around the same era,
because so do you have any emosongs on there?
No, but like Evanescence, it waslike childhood into that era.
Okay, so it was around the sametime.
And then that's when my momstarted exposing me to like
(18:34):
Jeannie in a Bottle my Goodies.
My God, yeah, christinainaaguilera she, oh, my god, which
you know.
We didn't list my all-timefavorite singers like as a
category, but she is up like oneof my top three.
Yeah, probably number one.
Yeah, christina aguilera, butum, so I'm gonna like kind of I
(18:55):
skipped ahead a little bit justbecause you know, um a decade
difference and so like mine kindof blends across okay okay so
like my coming out in teen years, um, kind of all blend together
because it was a major likelife event.
So like before I came out, all Ithought about was coming out
and then was being gayafterwards, yeah, um.
So my most favorite from thetime was born this way by Gaga.
(19:20):
Yes, lady Gaga.
Yes, cause it made everyone feelso seen heard and I think it
was a first sorry that was loud,it was the first time that I
think that gay people had avoice really in the mainstream
media era, like, like, andthey've always been supporting
(19:40):
these girlies, like there's beenso many like uh lgbtqi singers,
females mostly in kind of thatera.
But for her to sing that song,I thought was yeah, fab I also
have a gaga story.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Please wait, it's one of my story.
Wait, is this the one?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
that you're like oh, I'm going to share a story, but
then you're like, let me save it, no.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I feel like I may have told you this before, but
our listeners don't know, so oneof my top songs is Love Game by
Lady Gaga, because when Istudied abroad and lived in
London this is 2009, 2010 um iswhen I kissed a boy for a first
(20:24):
time, and it was at a Lady Gagashow at this gay bar you told me
this.
Yes, I think I did, and myfriend that I was living with
was like do you know who LadyGaga is?
And I was like no.
And then she was like what youhaven't listened to this.
And I was living with was likedo you know who Lady Gaga is?
And I was like no.
And then she was like what?
You haven't listened to this?
And I was like, oh yeah, Ithink I heard Just Dance or
something like that, and PokerFace no, I hadn't even heard
(20:45):
that yet.
And she was like well, you'regay and she's playing at this
gay bar in London and we need togo.
And like she's one of myfavorite artists and dragged me
out to this.
Not dragged me out, but I waslike, okay, let's do it, let's
do it.
So we went to this gay bar.
It was ended up like athree-story club, like bus club,
(21:08):
another club, another floor,another floor.
Yes, and I saw Gaga there.
And, yeah, I had my first gaykiss at the Gaga show at a small
, intimate venue of threestories three stories but she
was on the first floor and itwas very small wait.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But like, could you imagine seeing Gaga like at that
?
Like, back then she opened forDavid Archuleta what, yeah, like
she was like singing in suchsmall venues.
But what I love is that she wasdoing it in gay clubs.
Yeah, because she was being thevoice of, like this meat
(21:44):
wearing her Kermit wearing dresslady who is being kind of like
out there, different because noone else was doing it at the
time and singing about sex.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And then later on like singing about all people
having sex, no matter your race,ethnicity, gender, what
sexuality, all of it.
Yeah, she's an icon.
She is, and I'm so glad she'smy number one like singer of all
time.
Yeah, truly, disco stick reallygot me.
Oh yeah, that whole era.
It's so good that was yourhonorable mention or your I just
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brought it up because Imentioned gaga.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, so you go on so on.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
My next two are by the same artist, jesse jay um.
She first off her song who youare like, just be who you are
and like there's enough and yeahit just, it's just honestly
that born this way and then uh,jesse, j's voice is iconic and
she's so underrated.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yes, she doesn't have like nearly the followership
and fans that she deserves.
She has one of the best voicesin that's ever been recorded and
she can control it so well.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, like whenever she does like.
No, I can't, I can't do that.
You know I'm talking about.
Yeah, so good, um, but the lastjesse j song was masterpiece.
Um, I think that I don't knowif I know that one.
Uh, these are the pieces thatI'm building, my masterpiece,
like all of these pieces of methat I'm learning to love which
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loved enough, at the time when Iwas 18, to get a puzzle piece
tattooed on the back of my arm.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Wait, that's why it's from a Jesse Jay song called
Masterpiece.
No way.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I was 18.
And to this day, everyonealways asks me is it, you know,
in support of being on thespectrum, things like that.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
What does a puzzle piece have to do with being on
the spectrum?
And you're and you're not onthe spectrum I'm not no, but
people just assume that you areno because that is, maybe you
should get diagnosed quit that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now you're the one who can.
This is my rock.
Okay, thank you for showing me,and we're not making fun of
anyone on the spectrum but I'mjust like, don't come at me.
No, because I think that's likeit represents, that I'm pretty
sure, I think it does actually,yes, and so everyone just thinks
it's that and then, honestly, Ilike intermittent, depending on
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like if I want to tell them ornot, if I want to tell them or
not.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'd be like no, I just really like puzzles.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm like just, like, because I don't want to share
with anyone and everyone.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
The whole Jessie J story.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, Picture this 18-year-old Caleb driving home
from work and literally past atattoo shop.
I was like I'm going to go inthere and get that.
The same time I got these threedots tattooed on.
No, whenever they first gotdone, people thought I got
stabbed with a fork becausethere's just like.
It was like bleeding in bed andso funny.
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But imagine actually.
Yes, I did what was hilariousmy bandwidth to explain stories,
sometimes very short.
Well, that was a long one couldhave been shorter.
What is the word whenever you'rea hyper, not hypochondriac hype
like?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know.
Oh long-winded you mean like aparadox but not hyperbole.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
No, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
Hyperbolic, no, like it's nevermind I can't teach you english,
right now um what, what kind of?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
what is your next like section?
Okay, so I did my adolescence.
The the ones that I have for mycoming out teen era was Jodie
Messina Heads, carolina Tales,california.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean, you can't beat it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And then who's the guy who just did the cover of?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
it Cole Swindell, I think, which is a pretty good
cover, and he brought her onstage to sing it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
She should be bringing him on stage.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
No, it's so crazy to me because, like Gretchen Wilson
just toured with Brooks andDunn, yeah, very small like
venues in comparison with whatthey used to do, yeah, and then
Jodie Messina is like was doingvery small like arena.
I think it was more like justkind of like outside venues.
It was just crazy.
Yeah, like people, justhonestly, because, like people
like kids these days, when I saykids these days, people a
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little bit younger than me,they're not listening.
They never didn't grow uplistening to it, so they're just
not going out there to supportthem and they fucking should.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Those women walked so Taylor Swift could run Truly.
Because she started in theirgenre, yeah, could run truly
exactly because she started intheir 100 percent.
Uh genre, yeah, I do love agirl who starts off in country
and transitions to pop, becauseone of my other ones from my
teen years is jewel, um, youknow, who started off like more
country, but then the album thatI had like pinned to my wall
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because I didn't have like paintand or wallpaper.
Like growing up I just like tookCDs that I loved and I put
thumbtacks in them and hung themall over the walls, and I did
the same thing with my shoppingbags next year Abercrombie bags.
Yeah, but the jewel album thatI had um was the intuition album
.
I forget what it's called, butthe the song Intuition is on it
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and it just fucking slaps everysingle time, Also like Hoku.
Do you remember her?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
That's a singer or a haiku.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Hawaiian girl.
She was like all over DisneyChannel, Like, um, what song?
Um, there's another dumb blondeand then there's the burrito
song.
What?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Breakfast burrito, that one that I play you all the
time.
How do I feel no about aburrito?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
yeah yeah, what I thought maybe you'd get it.
No, the longer you sang, theless that out, the less I got
lost, I mean the less I knewokay yeah, and then um, oh gosh,
um, john mayer was on there andoh yeah, the whole like body is
a wonderland thing.
I think, like he probablyturned me gay interesting.
(27:45):
Yeah, I was like obsessed.
I thought he was so hot,especially like and one of his
songs, like I quoted one of hissongs in my like senior year
book, like I hate you for that,I know, I know I hate you for
that.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, um, what do you have a category after that?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
because you didn't have like college, okay, yeah.
So go ahead first.
Okay.
So one of my favorite songsfrom college and just like
brings me back.
I just like love these songsthat like they come on and
you're immediately transportedback to like a time or place.
And there is this um bandcalled css and you probably know
(28:26):
their song.
Um, music is my hot, hot sexbecause you know okay, it was
part of like an apple ipodcommercial um it was like one
one of the first like iPodcommercials and like no one knew
, and then it was like a freesingle download of the week or
something.
I always got those, yeah,absolutely.
And then, like Starbucksstarted doing it and then you
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could get the free Starbucksdownload card, oh my God.
Anyways, when I was studyingabroad in London, I went to a
concert of theirs in Amsterdamwith like a bunch of my friends
and we had like the best time,and every time that song comes
on I just like transport it backto Amsterdam were you just like
studying abroad just to listento fucking great people and
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these like awesome venues?
yeah, I guess I didn't thinkabout it at the time.
I was just like going along forthe ride.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Because you weren't like oh my God, I'm going to
this huge concert.
You're like yeah, sure, let'sgo.
And then you got exposed tothese great fucking artists.
You probably could have gotGaga's signature at that gay bar
.
Probably Fuck.
Signature autograph Same thing.
Yeah, that's true, I guess um.
Do you have any more?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
on your list.
Um, I have some honorablementions.
Okay, I want to hear those.
Okay, so daft punk one moretime, one more time oh okay,
yeah, that's a thought, oh mygod, okay, so I just like
getting into like my clubbingera, you know, because I'm like
19, living in London, and I candrink, and so a little techno
(30:01):
action.
Um, and then Marina and thediamonds was also like slaps
every time.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
What's so fun is the two people that are on your list
.
So far I've seen them open.
So Marina the diamonds open forpanic at the disco and jewel
open for train.
I saw them both at ClimatePledge.
Oh, wow, yeah, Recently, likelast year or the year before.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You saw Marina of the Diamonds last year.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
No, it was the year before 2021, 2022 when I moved
here.
Okay, yeah she opened.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
She's no longer like, it's no longer Marina of the
Diamonds, it's just Marina now,oh, diamonds is just marina now,
oh, that's who I saw.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
yeah, okay because, but she did play bubblegum bitch
and prima donna.
I love bubblegum bitch andradioactive and prima donna and,
oh my gosh, all of it honestly,my college years were pretty
fucking good with music and Iknow um david was talking about,
like you know, the era of 2009,2010 and, honestly, like when
kesha was coming up on the sceneand katie perry was in her
fucking bag Like yeah, that wasgreat, but I also got.
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Only what was it?
The Demi Lovato Tell Me youLove Me album.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I got Dangerous Woman .
Oh, that's great.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That was wonderful.
And then Kelly had released.
Kelly Clarkson released herfirst album Peace, pay Peace In
a long time?
No, maybe, no, what god.
That's such a good song, though, like now I'm distracted
because did you see?
Her sing that pregnant onamerican idol of course, and
she's fucking bawling, and so iskeith, herb and j-lo, yeah, and
(31:30):
then me I have that I.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I played that on the piano too and I just cannot get
through it like I just cry everytime.
Could you imagine?
Like she's talking about howher dad didn't love her?
Yeah, and then she has.
I played that on the piano too,and I just cannot get through
it Like I just cry every time.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Could you imagine like she's talking about how her
dad didn't love her, yeah, andthen she has this husband that
loves her so much but then, likenow, seeing them go through the
divorce and how he's doing her,and she is like in her fucking
back singing the fuck out ofevery song.
And our own TV show that's theonly talk show that is going to
last by a singer right now yeahkelly clarkson is amazing no one
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can like, disagree, no like onthat, because um, it seems like
everyone loves her it was likethe sayings, like when was the
last time like america felt likewhole or like on the same page
about something?
was kelly clarkson show, no, noeveryone agrees her on american
idol.
Oh my god yeah because, like itwas the first season of it, the
first really of its time, thatwas popping the hell off.
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But she was also someone whowas country but then would kind
of go into these rock eras whenshe'd go out barefoot and her
look, she could sing any genre.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, and she has a great creative team that do
amazing things with her stylingand makeup and hair.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And so good.
She's so vulnerable about somany things on her show and I
loved whenever she brought thejudges, like simon and them from
her season, like on the show,and they were like we knew that
you were gonna win as soon asyou opened your mouth.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Wow I need to watch that episode.
It it's so good honestly, sowhat?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
else from your college um, so honestly, so
dangerous woman was really bigfor me, and that was actually
when I it is so good, honestly,what else from your college?
So honestly, so Dangerous Womanwas really big for me.
And that was actually when Ifirst started getting into
concerts.
I saw her and Little Mix openfor her.
I love Little Mix too.
They Just wait, I need to add.
Remind me that I need tomention Jade's song as an
honorable mention as my current,because that's so good.
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College-ish was just kind ofthose songs.
None of them really reallystuck out to me.
Mention um jade song as anhonorable mention as my current,
because that's so good.
College ish was just kind ofthose songs.
None of them like really reallystuck out to me.
Um, because that I'm going tomention because it's my favorite
all-time album that includesmost of the songs that were from
that era love it.
Okay that I want to do like nowwhere I'm at in my life,
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motivational and also just how Ihyperfixate.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is going back to you playing one song all week
long.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, the most recent time I did that.
That one's not even on hereShadow by Kesha but I still want
to mention it Because if noone's listened to it, because
you will overlook it in thatalbum it's so good and what she
did, the ted talk thingy, my boband would she?
Who isma?
Is that who she looked likewith their little head thing?
oh, yeah, but not her fromemperor's new groove yeah, but
not her, just a little headdressthat she had on.
(34:08):
Yeah, um, this one might makeme a little emotional, but not,
not like for any bad reason.
I'll hold your hand if you want.
Oh, thanks, do you know jessemurph?
That's name sounds familiar.
Um, I think I've sent you someof her songs.
Okay, she, I know you love pinkand her emotive song.
Jesse murph sings a fuck out ofevery single song.
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It's raspy, it's raw and shesings uh, what happened to ryan
was the song that about how,like they were young and dumb
and she was drinking.
He was drinking and she waslike regretting that he died.
I think maybe like, do you or adrinking driver, something?
like that and she was like Ifeel like a shitty friend, so I
knew I should have taken likethe bottle of the cup that's
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that's who she is.
I just want to explain that but,um, the song's not released,
but I've seen her in concerttwice um now and there's a song
called uh, wildflowers and wineand it's about her mom.
Okay, and like how like her momwasn't like treated super well
and like she would like by herparents.
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No, by a partner.
Oh, okay, I don't know, her momwasn't treated well by her
grandma, by Jessie Murphy'sgrandmother.
No, but like, don't ruin it.
Okay, sorry, no, you're fine,but this song I know you want to
cry, I don't want to cry, but Ithink you're, I don't know.
I have to play it for youbecause she, it sounds a lot
like you're a mom and how likemom you would do everything for
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us.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Like you would work.
Like you would work two jobs,you'd work three jobs.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Like to take care of us and even when you're not
being treated well by yourpartner, yeah, and she was
singing about how like she wantssomeone to bring you
wildflowers and wine, and it waslike oh I think I do know this
song and it was.
I think it may have showed it toyou maybe I don't know, but I
was, because it's like it was onthe set list.
She's saying it.
I was bawling my eyes out.
I sent it to my mom and it justoh, it just sent me for a loop
(36:04):
because it's so good and sheneeds to release it.
Jesse murph, please belistening to me right now.
Please release this song,because everyone else feels the
same way about their mom.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Go ahead, okay, so that makes me think of um this
song that I sing all the time,that you love, when I sing in
the car missing you love thatyeah okay, I sing the tyler uh
hilton version from one treehill.
Shout out um to all you onetree hill fans.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's like no one I saw them go back to their high
school a few years ago, did somephoto shoot.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Um, it always makes me think of my mom, because it's
like a song about missingsomeone but like not allowing
yourself to miss them, so likeit's about like denying that,
that feeling of like I'm notgonna let having them gone yeah,
having them gone and out ofyour life, and I'm just gonna
like pretend that I didn't wantto cry, but damn no I.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I didn't know that that's what it meant for you
yeah and early in the carbecause I know maybe, maybe
because you play it a lot aroundus, you tried to skip it.
And I said no no, no, I saidyou're going to sing the fuck
out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I know, I know.
And then you're like okay, nowbigger, better.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And then I was like you can hit it.
You can hit it, but you singthe fuck, just like you sing the
fuck out of the song Pop.
Oh yeah, we need to do somekaraoke soon.
Yeah, Honestly, I've beenmissing it, Sitting there in the
crowd Listening, Not having togo up there, Because I,
especially when you sing like Ikept making you sing songs today
because it just you just emote,so I don't know.
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You just do it so well.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like Pink.
You saying I sound like pink?
Okay, let me stand on your abswhile you sing, because she did
it on the fucking news I saw.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay, so I'm going to .
That was just a shout out toour moms.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, shout out to our moms Songs that make us
think of our mom and how theyjust are fucking badass women.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, Because you know, especially growing up,
they're dealing with stuff thatwe know we saw about they're
dealing with stuff that we knowwe saw about, but just trying to
put on a good face and takecare of it I can't even take
care of myself, and they weretaking care of us, I know.
So, songs I've been listening towhich you're going to know one
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of them right off the bat,because I did have to bring it
up to you, because I finallytold you the name of it Tattoo
by Lorene, oh yes, the winner ofEurovision, the only female to
win it twice, 2012, 2023.
Okay, then, what I have left ismy album and then honorable
mention overall, because I thinkit sums up the show pretty well
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.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Okay, all I have is my current two favorite
girliesies.
Okay, give it to me and I'vealready mentioned them, like
earlier in like songs.
But sarah borales, she canfucking get it.
And kelly clarkson, I mean, Iliterally can listen to all of
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their like every single album,every single song they've ever
made, and be very content solike who?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
okay, to round out your top three.
Yeah, artists, yeah, give meone more.
I'm not prepared what do youmean you're not prepared, was it
not Gaga?
Oh yeah, yeah, you're welcome.
Yeah, I set you up for that one.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
And Gaga.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, I would say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But like Sara Bareilles though, because
they're like the mainstream popgirlies people always having
Gaga or they're going to haveChristina Aguilera or just like
all these people that arepitting against each other, and
you're like I'm with SarahMorales.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I just love singer-songwriter vibes.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's very.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
yeah, Goes back to my like James Taylor, you know
thing that I like, grew uplistening to oh, that makes
sense, and you?
Those are all songs that youcan typically play on the piano.
That too.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So it benefits you musically.
Yeah, okay, truly, truly, truly, um, I want to so my all-time
favorite album, and when I sayit's, it has to be an album
really that, like, for me, movesme, but then also, um, I know
every single song on the albumand that's.
I cry when I laugh, when I crywhen I laugh by jess glenn oh,
jess, and most people only knowher from her, rather be there's
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no place around.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, please
around me that's clean banditwith jess glenn.
Clean bandit plays the cello,yeah, yeah, I know, but she is
listed as a feature.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, oh my God, and like Dara Lark.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
They have so many good pairings, I know.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But that album for me , and I have been on the hunt
for that vinyl record with herautograph Ooh and again.
That's the only reason that I'mgoing to ACL Fest, really.
I mean, there's other peopleI'm excited about, like Rene
Rapp, because oh, slay theHighest on Boots.
But Jess Glynn sings myfavorite album of all time and I
am going to hear her.
Yeah, just like every song, wehave to come to an end, so let's
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close it out with a bridge andhoney, we'll get you home with a
big Finale oh, I was going tosay belt, oh, that too, yeah.
Say belt, oh that too, yeah.
Or a soft falsetto like uh youhad to do back home.
So we'll go into victory andvice.
You want to start, yeah, um, myvictory.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
In a song I would say um, since we're going to go
along, you know, with this wholemusic yeah, so we're going to
like pick a our top song thatwe're listening to right now as
our oh, oh, no, that's not forme.
Okay, I'm interpreting itdifferent.
Oh, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I wanted to tie in a victory with a song because it
had to be from right now.
Oh, okay, okay.
So mine would be Music by JoJo.
Okay, I played that for youjust a few minutes ago, and how
music's always been therethrough all these tough times.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And I think that that's kind of what from my
breakup album, the whole jojoalbum.
Um, what's the album called?
You're gonna steal my song.
Oh, I'm not gonna.
I won't say the song.
Um, hold on, what was it?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
it's just the whole album.
It was her like um well, it wasjust called jojo, I think it
was like it was her, like it washer first like outside album
outside of the her label yeah, Ithink I'm pretty sure we could
be wrong.
We will um call kyle out oninstagram if he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
um, but I was in palm springs celebrating my birthday
when my boyfriend cheated on meat the time and that was the
album that I was listening toand it just like became this
like album where every time anysong on it comes on, I flash
back to the airplane flight,back sitting next to him,
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knowing that it was over, andlike listening to that.
I literally had to like putlike a pillow over my head
because I was just like cryinginto the window.
I thought I I was gonna spendthe rest of my life with this
person and you have to sit nextto them on a fucking plane.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah kyle, you know that I make rash heart, uh,
emotional decisions.
Yeah, I would have probablyeither rented a fucking car and
I hate driving yeah, or like youknow what, from palm springs to
seattle, though you know what?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'm just gonna live here now, yeah, not moving back
there.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
From your breakup album.
I'm glad it's my victory.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, but it's because I think it's All my suffering is
your victory.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Okay, just like my 401k.
So come for me, bitch.
Maybe, I'll be entitled tofinancial compensation because
of you?
No, but it All of the songs.
I think when you and I talkabout songs, we really go in
deep Because, even if we're notfeeling that same emotion, just
the fact that someone is sharingthat emotion, that's why we
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really enjoy music.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, and the fact that the person that is writing
it may be thinking aboutsomething completely different.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
But it has the same emotion as whatever.
It is that like the way thatwe're interpreting it, you know,
yeah, like love story love songby sarah braless right, I
didn't know that up untilrecently, right, that was about
a big fu, but um so.
Music by jojo.
She sings about how music'salways been there for her, like
even when she was uh dealingwith stuff from her childhood
and like even how, like she, youknow, got into like a similar
(44:10):
adjacent mess as far as like beuh kesha is about being trapped
in her uh record deal that shesigned at 12 years old right and
still singing about how shestill loves music and it's
always been there for her.
And although she's gone throughall of that, she I don't know it
, just it's such a beautifulsong to me because all of the
stuff that she's gone through,all of that shit, she, I don't
know it, just it's such abeautiful song to me because all
of the stuff that we've gonethrough at different times in
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our life, like music's alwaysbeen there yeah, oh, I love that
.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Um, okay, I, my victory is just like my favorite
song of the moment.
Okay, and it's the new song byk Minogue.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You did say you were going to.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Tovelo or Tovelu as she says.
Yeah, as she pronouncesproperly in the song, and Bebe
Rexha.
All three of them arephenomenal.
I mean just like independentartists on their own, but
putting them all together blewmy mind La la, la la la.
I asked you if you were gonnause this yeah wait, what's the
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song called my oh my, my oh my?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
oh, why?
Because I asked you.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
You thought I was thinking of what I thought you
said my, my my, I thought youwere like choice of on no, I
said my, oh my you heard whatyou wanted to hear, okay well, I
did not skip that song earlieron the radio.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
My, my, my.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yes, that's my favorite Cause.
I wanted to use it.
No.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Okay, why is it your favorite, other than like three,
like boss bitches, like what isthis song itself?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
It's just like an amazing bop and like, as soon as
it comes on, it puts you in agood mood and, like you, just
like, want to shake your booty,truly.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I told you I listened to it for eight hours straight
at work on thursday, yeah, andthen I showed it to you and I'm
like you have to fucking listento this, and usually it's like
an emotive song or a song you'veprobably heard me play.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, but you were like yeah it was a new song for
me and, yeah, caleb introducedme to it and there's a music
video for it.
That also slaps, I mean.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
And except, except for Bebe.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Rexha's hair in it.
Everything else is great.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Okay, I'm not about tearing women down, but I can
support it because it's not myfavorite hair look Okay, but she
looked fucking great.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
She did Head to toe.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
The hairstyle fits the look.
Okay, I'll say that, agree todisagree.
That's fine.
Style fit the look.
Okay, I'll say that, agree todisagree.
That's fine.
Um, my advice it involved, uh,doing an extra what?
Two miles of leaving ourinitial night last night.
A mile out and a mile in, yeahso I look at we're like ish
slowly starting to put thingsaway.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Kyle made a soup for breakfast everything's soup when
it's dehydrated food, even whenyou add the right amount of
liquid.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
And then we had the biscuit and gravy, which is like
licorice, and it just was notgood.
So we're like sitting there I'mreading my book and Kyle's like
I'm helping Kyle start to putstuff together.
I was like Kyle, we're going tohave to go soon and I was like
nature is a calling.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I was like, oh, you got to go.
And you're like, nope, I'm notgoing to go, I'm not going to go
on the beach, I'm just going towait.
Everything's going to be fine,but I got to go.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And then I look over and you're like there's an
outhouse.
I was like there's four peoplein line.
So, kyle, I am having to runback to the trailhead, right now
and then I was like what ofthis can I take with me?
Make a quick decision, becauseI have to go yeah so that way
it'd be an easier trek back.
What I tell you?
I hiked and there's a littlebit of here with hill, with some
steps.
I made it there just like speedwalking, because there's people
(47:37):
and I'm passing them.
13 minutes, wow, the longest 13minute mile.
I mean that's as long as ittakes for most people to run
okay, but but if you think aboutit that it's uphill.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
No, that is very fast , is what I'm saying?
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And I was holding the good Lord and I was praying,
there was beads of sweat comingdown my face, oh my God.
And the entire time I'm likeyou know what?
Because I was just reading myIFS book.
I'm like this is a time that Ican work on coaching younger
caleb.
Let's do, let's do some partswork, because it was the part
being your butthole.
No, I was talking about likestay in.
No, I was like talking aboutlike parts that had come up
(48:14):
recently we had a conversationearlier because it allowed me
enough to get like almost likedisassociated from present self
and to like work on like innerchild stuff, which is so odd,
but that's what I was, the onlyreason I was able to make it not
believe you're working on innerchild stuff while you were
trying to keep poop from comingout of your butt?
kyle.
You know what, when they saywhen inspiration hits you and it
(48:37):
would seem to work for you.
It's.
It worked because it got mymind so off me having to,
because there's a few times I'dlike stop and like, okay, deep
breath, hold it, you can do it,you can do it.
It's.
What's so funny is I didn'teven like make it to the porta
potty, like near a parking spot.
There's two at the trailhead.
I and I was like, oh my god, Ican't bring these bags in with
me.
I didn't even care what was inthem, I threw them to the ground
(48:57):
next to the porta potty yes andthen I'm in and out quickly,
thank god, I hate it I hatesitting there forever.
Okay, bear with us on this nextlittle segment as we um finish
up our vice and virtue I'm justa girl learning how to edit and
record a fucking podcast, andthe content is so worth it it's
(49:18):
worth it and we know it soundskind of like tinny, but, um, I
don't know what we did.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
We were in the freaking rainforest.
Okay, just like give us a breaknot being hosed in the whole
rainforest yeah, okay, umcontinue listening.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Okay, so I got to the fucking porta potty.
Threw your stuff down, threw iton the ground, and I was in and
out of there so swiftly that Ilike.
Could I pause my timer when Iwas in there, like my walking
tracking on my watch?
There is sanitizer in there, bythe way.
Because Kyle did ask, I did useit double pumped.
Okay, so then I go and I putthe stuff in the car or the van
(49:55):
and then change and then get myuh monster and then I'm booking
it back.
Didn't you say?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
you.
You went so fast that you liketurned back around.
You were like wait, did I go?
Like you came out, wash yourhands, grab the bag, and you're
like wait, did I already go?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
okay, but this is gonna be tmi, but I'm just gonna
share it anyway.
So, like for you specifically,like you, pee, when you first
sit down to go, you do yourbusiness, you sit oh, I got it
okay, oh my god, kyle, let meget to the finish line.
So you pee when you first getdown there, because then you
like it's not happening at thesame time, and then it happens,
and then like do you know when?
Because then, like a little bitmore pee's done.
(50:35):
I'm like, oh, there's no morecoming out.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Wait, I'm so fucking louis,wait what?
But like why do I feel weirdcheering it?
I know, because, like that's mytimer.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I didn't know that anyone else did that.
I know right now and thank god,I'm talking about my bowel
habits and but it's so true,like you, first you pee, then
you go number two.
Wait, can you pee a little bitmore?
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I don't know why can we please post this as a poll on
?
Instagram because I first off.
I want to know does it happen?
Speaker 2 (51:07):
to anyone?
Anyone, does anyone pee and pooat the same time?
But then I want to know is it?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
if, if people doing it, but is it men only?
Or can like?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
women, women, pee and poo at the same time.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, oh, wait, no, kyle.
That's not what I was saying soyou pee and then you poop.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
But then, like you pee a little bit at the end,
yeah, and that's when you'redone.
You don't know if women do that, yeah, yeah.
Well, I want to know if anyoneelse does that.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, but now whenever I know you're pooping,
I'm like, okay, he's probablydone.
I heard the dribble.
Because that's such a, that'ssuch a safe way, I'm like, okay,
I can go in now hello, okay, noyou better be juicy, because I,
just like, was very vulnerable,literally with my pants down.
I'm from the whole world rightnow.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Okay, my advice is that, um, the day before we left
on the trip, I woke up and Ihad this crick in my neck.
And I still have this crick inmy neck, as you heard at the
beginning of the episode, and Ijust like slept on it.
Weird or something.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Or, as Caleb said, in your king size bed.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, and I was determined to hang upside down
because I was like this is goingto fix my crink in my neck.
And so I was like I'm going toget my aerial silks hung from
the ceiling.
I have to get this anchor intothe ceiling, but I don't have a
ladder.
So I'm like what am I going todo?
I go get my dresser, I take outall the drawers, I move it over
(52:34):
to the middle of the bedroom soI can stand on top of it to
drill holes into the ceilingWith your stud finder.
I had a stud finder, I had apower drill.
I mean, I was A handyman.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I was a fucking handyman After asking for
someone who could be yourhandyman on Grindr.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Anyways, in the process of taking the drawers
out, I broke one of the supportbars to the drawer, so I was
like, great, now I have to fixthat.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
And that's where it starts, because what did you do
when you were still standing onit?
Speaker 2 (53:02):
So I'm standing on it and I'm drilling into the
ceiling and I found the stud andI hit metal and I'm like great,
so like what is going on?
I watched all these YouTubevideos.
I'm trying to figure out likewhy is there metal around the
support beam?
And I'm looking out the windowI'm like seeing where the beam
comes out.
I'm like there's no metal outthere.
(53:22):
Why is there metal in here?
So then I go down to anotherone and I try to like find that
one, and then I just give up andI put like my dresser away and
I I do use my power drill to fixthe support beam with a new
screw and put the drawers backoh, I didn't know this.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
I thought we just haven't break two broken
furniture pieces no, I fixed it.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But then I go downstairs and david, our other
roommate, um is like kyle, yourcar is like leaking some sort of
fluid.
I was like like awesome, I justgot my oil changed, maybe
something like that's going on.
Then I opened the hood and likethe oil is just fine.
I like check the dipstick I'mvery butch so I know how to do
(54:05):
that and then I noticed that thecoolant is like below the men.
So I'm like what the actualfuck is going on?
Um, why is my day being soterrible and why is nothing
working out?
And I was just having like areally hard day and you skipped
another broken furniture pieceoh my gosh.
Yes, and the.
(54:27):
I have like a little bench thatI used to step up onto my
dresser to drill the holes andwhen I got down off of it one of
the legs snapped off of it soyou should just not be on
furniture.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
I should just have no furniture and also what I love
is maybe we should like tellaustin and brian not to listen
to this episode, because theyknow that you just drilled into
metal in the roof okay, but Ionly like took a little bit of
drywall off but the metal piece.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
I didn't drive, I didn't drill into it.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
You just felt it.
I just felt it Like when you'reputting a shovel in the ground
you hit a rock, you're done.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
And I could see a little bit of metal and I was
like this is not going through,it's wood and I need to be able
to drill into wood to hang myaerial silks.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Imagine you're like, okay, it's probably fine.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
And then you but I was also like, maybe if I fall
and hit my neck, it'll fix it.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Or severely damage you.
Yeah, you have been askingabout these aerial soles.
We just have to borrow a ladderor you can do a basket toss.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
I have friends coming over next week to help me do it
who have a ladder, and one ofthem is a contractor.
So yeah, have contractorfriends and mechanic friends.
They're important, he's comingprepared for that.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
That'll be a fun Also .
Hopefully he doesn't hit metal.
He probably knows he's like oh,there's probably metal there?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, I'm assuming that's what contractors do for a
living.
Do they have metal?
Speaker 1 (55:42):
detectors.
Are they one of those peoplewho just start knocking on the
wall?
They're like that's a stud.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Maybe he'll be knocking on you.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
I'm like, oh, that's a stud.
Um, I felt like, oddly, thisepisode went really fast,
although it definitely didn't,because this is a lot of content
.
Yeah, um, is there anythingelse that you want to say about
music?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
kind of, as we close after victim advice I would say
like general theme for me whenit comes to music is it has such
a huge impact on my likewell-being, my mood in those
moments, and like having aproperly um prepared soundtrack
(56:21):
for your life, I think is reallyimportant and like that's what
these songs are to me.
They're like soundtracks to mylife, you know, and just like a
song comes on and it likereminds you so much of a movie,
like a song comes on my ipodshuffle or whatever, and it
brings me right back to thosemoments.
(56:41):
And I would also say that likeI think that like being a really
like sensitive kid growing up,maybe like the two are tied
somehow, not that like the musicmade me sensitive, but or like
me as a kid being sensitiverelated so much to like those
(57:02):
really like emotional songs, um,I think they definitely like
had a interplay with one another, you know that's interesting
because you know we talked aboutempaths last time and I almost
felt like that's also a releaseof whatever emotions you're
picking up around you, becausethere's sometimes.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
I would just listen to a song, just not necessarily
how I'm feeling and it almostdoes, is like, oh, I'm
understanding their, thatemotion that someone was just
sharing with me, and like thisis me almost letting it out of
me now oh yeah, like for youpersonally, it's letting, like
letting, like letting theemotion that I kind of picked up
from them that listening to asong about it or something was
(57:41):
like so it's not like, just forlike shit.
I've been through.
It's more of, like you know,taking on other people's
emotions or baggage or weight.
It's like this has nothing todo with me.
Like feeling something from itbecause it's my release yeah,
yeah, and bathtubs yeah, whatabout you.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Do you want to say like anything about music and
why it's important to you?
Speaker 1 (58:00):
I will say it's always just, it just explains so
much about like how I'm feelingbut also can pull me out of
such a negative space too.
So, like, there's times like Ijust want to, like it's almost
like someone's in that hole withme and I want to listen to that
song because, like, I'm feelingseen and feeling heard, but
then you know like if you're ina grumpy mood or if, like you
(58:21):
know, you're feeling emotionalor whatever you need to get
yourself out of it.
I also turn to like theseuplifting, motivating, like
badass songs.
So I just think it it it'salways there to adapt to what
I'm going through because, likeyou you said it's a soundtrack
to your life.
Yeah, and honestly, like anartist is experiencing the same
way, releasing music, and I feelso I just love that time period
(58:43):
in their life I'm experiencingand it could be like an album
they released 20 years ago.
It could be an album theyreleased recently and it's
always just meant a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, well, with that we will say goodnight to the
listeners at home and we havesome mashed potatoes to eat.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
Maybe that'll be my victorynext week.
Because I'm so excited.
We had two cups of them lastnight.
Now we have two more.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
They actually are pretty good and they're hydrated
.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
And there are four cheese, four cheese and we did
bring the fifth cheese, the mostimportant craft single.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I know, that was my idea last night but what?
If we brought a craft singleand put that in there?
Speaker 1 (59:22):
more plastic.
That's what you've decided.
That like what I like to tastehis palette is uh, yeah, how
much plastic is this made with?
Honestly or cardboard yeah, twoin the same singles.
I'm full, I ate it up.
Finger looking good, I'm happy.
Dehydrated potatoes, oh my god.
And the stuffing we havestuffing, oh my god, I'm so
(59:44):
excited.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
So y'all, I need to continue this excitement, but
until next week we wish you wellkeep singing bitches.
Yeah you sniffed out some elk poop earlier, I sure
did.
You just said that like I suredid.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm out here on the farm.
I mean, truly I mean, ifthere's anything about.
What's funny, though, is I waslike that's elk poop, right off
the bat.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You did know that right away.
You're like it looks like deerpoop, but it's bigger.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It must be elk.
I've never seen elk shit before, but I'm like no, that's
probably it, that's definitelyit, 100%.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Every time we stop, though, you're like I have to go
into the visitor center andthere's always like footprints
or something that you learnabout.
You know about looking out innature.
Was there one about scat?
No, because we, because I heardyou're into scat.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Apparently you have.
Whenever you say like, oh, I'mopen to trying anything, you
have to be specific no scat, noblood, no fisting, no what
Something.
There's something else.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know, honey, whatever you're not into, I know
, but will you try everythingonce?
Uh, no.
Yeah, not those, not those, buteverything else, like I've peed
on someone before.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like just her foot.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But I have a really shy bladder, so it does not go
well for me.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But what I wanted these people to hear about was I
was out here doing these people, these random people.
Well, these people, here Ourlisteners that we love and adore
, I know.
But you know what, whenever Isay things, I don't mean it
ill-intentionally.
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
word.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, you just sound With ill intent.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you just sound stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, I just get to it.
Like these people.
Hello, that I can't see, okay.
I still love you.
Anyway, I was out herepracticing my baton routines
with my stick.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You were, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Kai, you come out from around the van.
This is my rock oh yeah.
Because you told me earlier Iwas like you don't have any
rocks.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You're like I have a rock.
I brought a rock from the beach.
I'm very proud of it.
Is it illegal?
It is illegal.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, Don't tell anyone I have so many rocks
because we went rock hunting,yeah, and you found a bunch and
then I came out and I was likethis is my rock.
Rocks were my victory lastepisode.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, that's right, yeah, so I'm glad we got to
bring it up.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But then so we moved campsites.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, we went from Second Beach on the coast in La
Push and now we're in the HoNational Rainforest, thank God,
and guess what?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It's fucking raining Piss pouring.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah Wild.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
In the middle of summer In a rainforest.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In a rainforest, yeah , but in Washington, yeah.
I thought they meant like, oh,it's, you know, like a parody on
rainforest.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I don't know.
A satire, yeah, it's like ha ha, gotcha Gotcha bitch.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, that's what I was expecting.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Isn't gotcha, gotcha bitch?
Yeah, that's what I wasexpecting, what you usually say
gotcha bitch that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I feel like you read my mind all the time.
I knew what you were.
I knew what you meant like ninetimes out of ten when you say
what I'm thinking, you're right,uh-huh.
Yeah, I say like one word, it'slike name, that tune, you know
where they put like one note.
But then you know the whole youknow song you're also I go.
All I say is um then Caleb'slike, oh, you're thinking about
like your mom's birthday.
(03:06):
I'm like how did you know that?
I don't know your mom'sbirthday.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
but yeah, I could see that.
I could see it in your eyes.
I know what was it earlier.
No, it was the other night whenwe were watching Big Mama's
House and you do the same for me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'll just mention something like I can make you a
grilled cheese.
Oh right, yeah.
I was like oh my, I wonder whatI have in there to eat.
All he does is like hmm.
And I'm like are you hungry?
You want a grilled cheese?
I'll make you a grilled cheese.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And you're like that's exactly what I wanted it
sounded so wonderful at the timefor other reasons other than
Big Mama's house, but it wasjust great and that it needed.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It really did, yeah.
So what are we talking?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
about today.
We decided to talk about music,and I'm so glad that we did,
because you mentioned it as yourvictory.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I did yeah, it was inspired by my victory from the
last episode, where I'm how justlike listening to like all this
music on this road trip spurredsomething in me and made me
like very like introspective,and so we were like wouldn't it
be like really fun to like gothrough all these like songs
that are from like our past andlike talk about what they mean
(04:12):
to us and just have a littlelike flashback moment?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
yeah, because I think , for both of us, music is how.
I'm not very good at putting mythoughts into words, which
you're very well aware of, andso are they um so I think music
does that for me, these people,I said they that's all
encompassing.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm that sounds rude.
I really do love each and everyone of you, although I don't
know all 26 of you.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh, yeah, yeah well, we have more than 26 I mean,
who's counting?
You on buzzsprout, but um yousaying that it made me really
appreciate us doing it together.
Because at first I'm like Isound shitty singing, but it is
fun to sing songs from yourchildhood with someone.
(04:57):
And so today I was like you're abiggest fan.
I was like you better hit thatnote and I was like you can do
it and I said let's go back.
I want you to go higher.
You can go higher.
He was my vocal coach and thenthere were some songs you were
playing.
I just got like goosebumps too,yeah, and then got teary-eyed.
I know, every time you see,seeing, she used to be mine.
Oh, I love sarah boralis.
I know, and I didn't.
(05:17):
I had no idea what that songwas.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know that I'm in a like okay, so itunes back when
iTunes was really selling music.
Yeah, like they did a likeiTunes.
Sara Bareilles live concertspecial.
Thing.
We tried to look for it.
No, I found it and I was therewith my friend Kate and I think
I was like 16 years old orsomething, and so this is like
(05:41):
almost 20 years ago Live at theFillmore, and so this is like
almost 20 years ago, live at thefillmore and um I found like my
little 16 year old face in thecrowd, oh just a baby.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, anyways, love sir brownless uh, yes you do,
and I I kind of.
Whenever I found out that thatsong love story was kind of an
fu to her label, she's like I'mnot just gonna write you another
love story.
Yeah, does it make you love hereven more?
Yeah, yeah and then, honestly,she used to be mine.
It was gonna be up there in asong.
I'm gonna you know how I liketo cycle through songs yeah,
repetitively, repeatedly yeah orrepetitively repetitively,
(06:16):
repeatedly um, and that'sprobably gonna be my new one
that you're gonna get sick of.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
yeah, caleb picks one song and then it's blasted from
his room or from his bathroomor from his craft room.
He has three rooms that heblasts music from, and it's
usually one song on repeat for aweek.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But what I love so much is, and then it's a new one
, and they're all really good,though that's the thing I know.
It's like you have a good tastein music and I don't hate it
Because then, literally, like somany days in a row, you'll be
humming and I'm like you knowthe song?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, just not the words.
I was telling you this earlier,but, like every morning, I wake
up with a different song stuckin my head and, of course,
caleb's first question was is itlike a song that I was playing?
Because, you know, I play thesame song every single day.
And the answer is no Tell themtoday's song oh, I'm going to
light you up like it's dynamite.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Who sings that?
Jason?
No, yeah, is it Jason Derulo?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It was someone Was it like Ayaz or something,
something like that, but no,what's also my favorite thing
about you, kyle, is I will sing73 songs in a day.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And until I sing the, the next one, you will be just
humming it non-stop.
Well, I'm like a hummer, likeas a kid, like I used to get
like punished for humming.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So much yeah like my hit or like put in the corner or
like writing sentences.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
My brother's dad was like um, what's the right word?
Punishing?
No, um, I guess like homophobicand and really didn't want his
kids to do anything feminine.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh, my God, we're so going to get into that too, and
I was like humming was like notacceptable, and so I would get
spanked.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, if he ever found me humming and I'm so
musically I don't know how heputs out a response to that.
I know, isn't that awful.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I, and I'm so musically, I don't know he puts
how to respond to that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's not awful, I mean, yeah, I guess that's like
me getting in trouble forplaying with barbie dolls.
Yeah, yeah same thing, whichwe're gonna get into those
honestly though I think thatthat's why I have such a good
like falsetto is because, likewhenever we were like singing in
the car, I have to like singreally quiet and so I'd like
sing in like this higherregister that like he couldn't
hear or something like a dogwhistle dog yeah, yeah he can't
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hear good music, so I'm gonnasing.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'll, I'll have perfect pitch and then I'll just
be disguised by Shania Twain inthe background.
G-sharp hit it.
Okay.
So the first song that I pickedis like so fucking random.
But, um, do you know whatCirque de Soleil is, caleb?
Is that like where you go tothe circus?
It's like one of the mostfamous, probably the most famous
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circus in the entire world dothey come to tennis?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Knoxville Tennessee all over the world the world,
all over the world, is thiswhere they're like?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
hanging from ceiling.
They're doing the most amazingacrobatic performances and every
show has a different theme.
Oh my god, they did a cabinetof curiosity.
They did a whole dragon one.
There's a million differentshows.
Oh, I saw one in London thatwas going into the afterlife.
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The visual effects are amazingand the like just circus arts of
it all is in.
There's just like nothingbetter.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The circuses I went to had a lion and then guys
riding motorcycles inside ofthis metal ball cage.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, no no, no, we got to go see Cirque du Soleil.
I'll show you some stuff onYouTube and then you'll be like
we're going see.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Cirque du Soleil.
I'll show you some stuff onYouTube and then you'll be like
we're going.
Oh, is that where people can dolike the crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
like body morphing Contortionism.
Yeah, pretzels, there was oneat one of the shows that I went
to.
Yeah, but I picked a song fromthe Cirque du Soleil show
Saltimbaco, saltimbaco.
I don't know, we'll cut thisout.
Is that English?
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That english?
Okay, this is the like crazypart about this story.
So the song is called kumbalaway, and as a kid I like learned
the entire lyrics to the wholesong.
You would sing it.
it was like a cassette that mymom had oh my god, I would put
it in the cassette and I wouldlisten to it over and over and
over again.
I thought that I was teachingmyself french because it's
cirque de soleil, right, whichis like french.
Okay, I didn't know that, okay,okay, um, not until like
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adulthood did I realize that,like this kumbala way song, that
I was learning like cirque desoleil, because they travel all
around the world, they don't useany particular language, they
just make up their own language.
What?
Yeah, so it's just likesyllables that are like strung
together, that like sound goodalong with the music, and so I
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was just learning like gibberishthe entire time, and I was
literally telling everyone thatI, like, knew how to speak some
French.
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was like a six-year-old or seven-year-old.
Can you still sing it?
Probably so is this likechildhood songs?
That's where we're starting out.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, like childhood songs yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And that's the one you chose.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That was the one that I chose because I think it's
like a funny story to share.
Okay, think it's like a funnystory to share, but my other
like top choices from childhoodera were like james taylor.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You know james taylor say more.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm thinking james arthur probably.
I've seen rain, seen sunny daysthat I thought would never end
is this, this country or no,it's like Country adjacent.
It's a singer-songwriter, maybe.
Okay, so my honorable mentionsare James Taylor and Sting,
because those were, like mymom's two favorite artists, I
think, growing up.
So Fields of Gold by Sting andHandyman by James Taylor were
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quintessential, along with mepretending to know french and
singing cirque de soleil songswhich I think, like when you're
a child, like those are the typeof like reasons why you like
music.
Yeah, it is, yeah, it's likethings that you like do with
your parents.
Like you know that they like it, so you kind of want to like it
too, so you like have somethingto talk about or like something
to like together.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
To sing in the car together.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean so it's not like kids pop no, okay, my
younger ones, I think I wentbased on just things I really
liked at the time.
So obviously my all-timefavorite movie is Cowdy Ugly.
Oh yeah, so Can't Fight.
The Moonlight was number one onthe list.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That but also that song is so good After all these
years.
It like totally changed leahryan's um career after blue to
that I know, which also I meanshe has an amazing career, like
I love her albums um, to followthat up, similar.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm not a girl, not yet a woman from crossroads.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh my god, yes honestly like that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
bring it on.
And cowdyly were the movies Ijust watched on repeat.
Yeah, so I'm Not a Girl, notYet a Woman.
That outfit at the end, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
With the peasant.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
top with the huge arms the peasant top, that's
what it was.
Is that what you call it, the?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
big arm sleeves.
That's called a peasant top.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It reminds me when people get like there's master's
degree.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
In what fashion?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
No master's degree, like in their wearing their like
gowns when they're walkingacross the stage they have, like
the big arms, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
But not a crisscross.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
That's an interesting comparison.
Okay, okay.
And then, like an honorablemention, being from the South
Redneck woman will alwaysGretchen Wilson, she will get me
high yeah.
Always will get me high.
Yeah, always.
And then I'm gonna mention onemore womanizer by Britney Spears
, because I would teach myselfchoreography and perform it for
my gosh, I can't believe youpicked Britney Spears, who you
know obviously we love in thedoor.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
but um, that's like perfect segue into my like
adolescence because, like, mytop pick was oops it Again, so
it's great.
Because you're like 10 yearsyounger than me, so I picked
like an album before.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, honestly, those people inthe early 2000s, like Tyra
Banks being on Coyote Ugly andthen Crossroads.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So like they just were getting in.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
the movies that people probably thought were not
good Changed my life.
Yeah, so you.
The movies that people probablythought were not good changed
my life yeah, so you'readolescent.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So like what?
What would you say?
Like that's preteen.
Yeah, so the reason I pickedoops, I did it again is because
I like split the time between mymom's house and my dad's house
or my brother's dad's house and,um, my brother's dad was like
very like country, like you know, religious, like.
Basically the songs have tohave like a good message,
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otherwise we're not listening toit, right, my mom did not care,
but she was like slide it up,girl.
Yeah so I picked like songs thatwere from like my first two cds
that I ever bought.
And oops, I did it again wasnot the first cd I ever bought,
but it was the one that I couldbuy like from at my mom's house
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and keep it at my mom's housebecause my dad, like was like do
not listen to britney spears.
Like this is terrible.
She's whipping her hair aroundon stage.
It's disgusting that's what.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's what he was upset about the hair, yeah, the
hairography that she's famousfor isn't that sad?
And in you in the car today Iwas like let's do some choreo to
this britney spears song.
Yeah, and you tried it.
You're like I can't do choreomy eyes.
I have a crink in my neck.
Is that a kink?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
yeah, I can't do hairography right now.
I have a crick crick, that'swhat I suppose.
But like kink crink crick,whatever youick, that's what I
said first, but like kink crinkcrick, whatever you want to call
it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I have a frog in my neck yeah, I think that's how
people say that or a frog in mythroat.
That's my throat, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, so, and then my second album.
The first album I ever boughtthat I kept at my dad's house
was Faith by Faith Hill.
Is that I Can Feel you Breathe?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, that's breathe.
Faith is this kiss.
Honestly, fuck it.
I don't know if we'll ever havethat female era of country like
that again.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Faith Hill Shania Twain, leigh-anne Womack, reba
Well, reba's a little earlier,but still.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Martina McBride.
Martina McBride, jodie Messina.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Jodie Messina, I mean could you imagine?
Trisha Yearwood.
They were carrying countrymusic and like having kids.
Yeah, it was the 90s, bettereconomy, I guess I know, but
like working people were buyingalbums still, not just single
songs, oh yeah they were sellingrecords.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, anything else from your um adolescence, which
is pre-teen, is that what you'recalling it?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
yeah, yeah, or teenage, teenage, years.
My honorable mentions are timmcgrath.
Just to see you smile is.
It brings me to tears everysingle time you played on the
piano too, I do, yeah, and it'sjust like.
The song is about like lovingsomeone unconditionally and
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loving them so much that likeeven them leaving you for
someone else like makes yousmile because you know that like
they're gonna be happy I don'tknow how, kyle, you're such a
wonderful person to sit here andsay like it makes you smile,
even if someone you know you'renot no longer with them, but
they're happy.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, like, obviously , like.
I think everyone wants to feelthat way and eventually does,
but that's really hard to do.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I, I mean it's almost impossible and you're doing it.
Well, I'm trying my best.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You can do hard things.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It's not always easy.
And then Wide Open Spaces bythe Dixie Chicks, oh, so good.
And You're Still the One byShania Twain.
Those are my honorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know I saw her on the internet recently saying
that her favorite cover anyone'sever sang of that has been
teddy swims he's so good, sofucking good, yeah, and is he on
your list?
No, he should have been, but heis gonna be on my list when I
go to the hopefully fingerscrossed, to the austin city
limit fest.
Go ahead, are you intoadolescence now?
(18:13):
Well, I'm doing like coming outteen, like around the same era,
because so do you have any emosongs on there?
No, but like Evanescence, it waslike childhood into that era.
Okay, so it was around the sametime.
And then that's when my momstarted exposing me to like
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Jeannie in a Bottle my Goodies.
My God, yeah, christinainaaguilera she, oh, my god, which
you know.
We didn't list my all-timefavorite singers like as a
category, but she is up like oneof my top three.
Yeah, probably number one.
Yeah, christina aguilera, butum, so I'm gonna like kind of I
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skipped ahead a little bit justbecause you know, um a decade
difference and so like mine kindof blends across okay okay so
like my coming out in teen years, um, kind of all blend together
because it was a major likelife event.
So like before I came out, all Ithought about was coming out
and then was being gayafterwards, yeah, um.
So my most favorite from thetime was born this way by Gaga.
(19:20):
Yes, lady Gaga.
Yes, cause it made everyone feelso seen heard and I think it
was a first sorry that was loud,it was the first time that I
think that gay people had avoice really in the mainstream
media era, like, like, andthey've always been supporting
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these girlies, like there's beenso many like uh lgbtqi singers,
females mostly in kind of thatera.
But for her to sing that song,I thought was yeah, fab I also
have a gaga story.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Please wait, it's one of my story.
Wait, is this the one?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
that you're like oh, I'm going to share a story, but
then you're like, let me save it, no.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I feel like I may have told you this before, but
our listeners don't know, so oneof my top songs is Love Game by
Lady Gaga, because when Istudied abroad and lived in
London this is 2009, 2010 um iswhen I kissed a boy for a first
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time, and it was at a Lady Gagashow at this gay bar you told me
this.
Yes, I think I did, and myfriend that I was living with
was like do you know who LadyGaga is?
And I was like no.
And then she was like what youhaven't listened to this.
And I was living with was likedo you know who Lady Gaga is?
And I was like no.
And then she was like what?
You haven't listened to this?
And I was like, oh yeah, Ithink I heard Just Dance or
something like that, and PokerFace no, I hadn't even heard
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that yet.
And she was like well, you'regay and she's playing at this
gay bar in London and we need togo.
And like she's one of myfavorite artists and dragged me
out to this.
Not dragged me out, but I waslike, okay, let's do it, let's
do it.
So we went to this gay bar.
It was ended up like athree-story club, like bus club,
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another club, another floor,another floor.
Yes, and I saw Gaga there.
And, yeah, I had my first gaykiss at the Gaga show at a small
, intimate venue of threestories three stories but she
was on the first floor and itwas very small wait.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But like, could you imagine seeing Gaga like at that
?
Like, back then she opened forDavid Archuleta what, yeah, like
she was like singing in suchsmall venues.
But what I love is that she wasdoing it in gay clubs.
Yeah, because she was being thevoice of, like this meat
(21:44):
wearing her Kermit wearing dresslady who is being kind of like
out there, different because noone else was doing it at the
time and singing about sex.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And then later on like singing about all people
having sex, no matter your race,ethnicity, gender, what
sexuality, all of it.
Yeah, she's an icon.
She is, and I'm so glad she'smy number one like singer of all
time.
Yeah, truly, disco stick reallygot me.
Oh yeah, that whole era.
It's so good that was yourhonorable mention or your I just
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brought it up because Imentioned gaga.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, so you go on so on.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
My next two are by the same artist, jesse jay um.
She first off her song who youare like, just be who you are
and like there's enough and yeahit just, it's just honestly
that born this way and then uh,jesse, j's voice is iconic and
she's so underrated.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yes, she doesn't have like nearly the followership
and fans that she deserves.
She has one of the best voicesin that's ever been recorded and
she can control it so well.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, like whenever she does like.
No, I can't, I can't do that.
You know I'm talking about.
Yeah, so good, um, but the lastjesse j song was masterpiece.
Um, I think that I don't knowif I know that one.
Uh, these are the pieces thatI'm building, my masterpiece,
like all of these pieces of methat I'm learning to love which
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loved enough, at the time when Iwas 18, to get a puzzle piece
tattooed on the back of my arm.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Wait, that's why it's from a Jesse Jay song called
Masterpiece.
No way.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I was 18.
And to this day, everyonealways asks me is it, you know,
in support of being on thespectrum, things like that.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
What does a puzzle piece have to do with being on
the spectrum?
And you're and you're not onthe spectrum I'm not no, but
people just assume that you areno because that is, maybe you
should get diagnosed quit that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now you're the one who can.
This is my rock.
Okay, thank you for showing me,and we're not making fun of
anyone on the spectrum but I'mjust like, don't come at me.
No, because I think that's likeit represents, that I'm pretty
sure, I think it does actually,yes, and so everyone just thinks
it's that and then, honestly, Ilike intermittent, depending on
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like if I want to tell them ornot, if I want to tell them or
not.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'd be like no, I just really like puzzles.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm like just, like, because I don't want to share
with anyone and everyone.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
The whole Jessie J story.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, Picture this 18-year-old Caleb driving home
from work and literally past atattoo shop.
I was like I'm going to go inthere and get that.
The same time I got these threedots tattooed on.
No, whenever they first gotdone, people thought I got
stabbed with a fork becausethere's just like.
It was like bleeding in bed andso funny.
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But imagine actually.
Yes, I did what was hilariousmy bandwidth to explain stories,
sometimes very short.
Well, that was a long one couldhave been shorter.
What is the word whenever you'rea hyper, not hypochondriac hype
like?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know.
Oh long-winded you mean like aparadox but not hyperbole.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
No, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
Hyperbolic, no, like it's nevermind I can't teach you english,
right now um what, what kind of?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
what is your next like section?
Okay, so I did my adolescence.
The the ones that I have for mycoming out teen era was Jodie
Messina Heads, carolina Tales,california.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean, you can't beat it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And then who's the guy who just did the cover of?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
it Cole Swindell, I think, which is a pretty good
cover, and he brought her onstage to sing it.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
She should be bringing him on stage.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
No, it's so crazy to me because, like Gretchen Wilson
just toured with Brooks andDunn, yeah, very small like
venues in comparison with whatthey used to do, yeah, and then
Jodie Messina is like was doingvery small like arena.
I think it was more like justkind of like outside venues.
It was just crazy.
Yeah, like people, justhonestly, because, like people
like kids these days, when I saykids these days, people a
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little bit younger than me,they're not listening.
They never didn't grow uplistening to it, so they're just
not going out there to supportthem and they fucking should.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Those women walked so Taylor Swift could run Truly.
Because she started in theirgenre, yeah, could run truly
exactly because she started intheir 100 percent.
Uh genre, yeah, I do love agirl who starts off in country
and transitions to pop, becauseone of my other ones from my
teen years is jewel, um, youknow, who started off like more
country, but then the album thatI had like pinned to my wall
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because I didn't have like paintand or wallpaper.
Like growing up I just like tookCDs that I loved and I put
thumbtacks in them and hung themall over the walls, and I did
the same thing with my shoppingbags next year Abercrombie bags.
Yeah, but the jewel album thatI had um was the intuition album
.
I forget what it's called, butthe the song Intuition is on it
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and it just fucking slaps everysingle time, Also like Hoku.
Do you remember her?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
That's a singer or a haiku.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Hawaiian girl.
She was like all over DisneyChannel, Like, um, what song?
Um, there's another dumb blondeand then there's the burrito
song.
What?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Breakfast burrito, that one that I play you all the
time.
How do I feel no about aburrito?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
yeah yeah, what I thought maybe you'd get it.
No, the longer you sang, theless that out, the less I got
lost, I mean the less I knewokay yeah, and then um, oh gosh,
um, john mayer was on there andoh yeah, the whole like body is
a wonderland thing.
I think, like he probablyturned me gay interesting.
(27:45):
Yeah, I was like obsessed.
I thought he was so hot,especially like and one of his
songs, like I quoted one of hissongs in my like senior year
book, like I hate you for that,I know, I know I hate you for
that.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, um, what do you have a category after that?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
because you didn't have like college, okay, yeah.
So go ahead first.
Okay.
So one of my favorite songsfrom college and just like
brings me back.
I just like love these songsthat like they come on and
you're immediately transportedback to like a time or place.
And there is this um bandcalled css and you probably know
(28:26):
their song.
Um, music is my hot, hot sexbecause you know okay, it was
part of like an apple ipodcommercial um it was like one
one of the first like iPodcommercials and like no one knew
, and then it was like a freesingle download of the week or
something.
I always got those, yeah,absolutely.
And then, like Starbucksstarted doing it and then you
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could get the free Starbucksdownload card, oh my God.
Anyways, when I was studyingabroad in London, I went to a
concert of theirs in Amsterdamwith like a bunch of my friends
and we had like the best time,and every time that song comes
on I just like transport it backto Amsterdam were you just like
studying abroad just to listento fucking great people and
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these like awesome venues?
yeah, I guess I didn't thinkabout it at the time.
I was just like going along forthe ride.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Because you weren't like oh my God, I'm going to
this huge concert.
You're like yeah, sure, let'sgo.
And then you got exposed tothese great fucking artists.
You probably could have gotGaga's signature at that gay bar
.
Probably Fuck.
Signature autograph Same thing.
Yeah, that's true, I guess um.
Do you have any more?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
on your list.
Um, I have some honorablementions.
Okay, I want to hear those.
Okay, so daft punk one moretime, one more time oh okay,
yeah, that's a thought, oh mygod, okay, so I just like
getting into like my clubbingera, you know, because I'm like
19, living in London, and I candrink, and so a little techno
(30:01):
action.
Um, and then Marina and thediamonds was also like slaps
every time.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
What's so fun is the two people that are on your list
.
So far I've seen them open.
So Marina the diamonds open forpanic at the disco and jewel
open for train.
I saw them both at ClimatePledge.
Oh, wow, yeah, Recently, likelast year or the year before.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You saw Marina of the Diamonds last year.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
No, it was the year before 2021, 2022 when I moved
here.
Okay, yeah she opened.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
She's no longer like, it's no longer Marina of the
Diamonds, it's just Marina now,oh, diamonds is just marina now,
oh, that's who I saw.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
yeah, okay because, but she did play bubblegum bitch
and prima donna.
I love bubblegum bitch andradioactive and prima donna and,
oh my gosh, all of it honestly,my college years were pretty
fucking good with music and Iknow um david was talking about,
like you know, the era of 2009,2010 and, honestly, like when
kesha was coming up on the sceneand katie perry was in her
fucking bag Like yeah, that wasgreat, but I also got.
(31:00):
Only what was it?
The Demi Lovato Tell Me youLove Me album.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I got Dangerous Woman .
Oh, that's great.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That was wonderful.
And then Kelly had released.
Kelly Clarkson released herfirst album Peace, pay Peace In
a long time?
No, maybe, no, what god.
That's such a good song, though, like now I'm distracted
because did you see?
Her sing that pregnant onamerican idol of course, and
she's fucking bawling, and so iskeith, herb and j-lo, yeah, and
(31:30):
then me I have that I.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I played that on the piano too and I just cannot get
through it like I just cry everytime.
Could you imagine?
Like she's talking about howher dad didn't love her?
Yeah, and then she has.
I played that on the piano too,and I just cannot get through
it Like I just cry every time.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Could you imagine like she's talking about how her
dad didn't love her, yeah, andthen she has this husband that
loves her so much but then, likenow, seeing them go through the
divorce and how he's doing her,and she is like in her fucking
back singing the fuck out ofevery song.
And our own TV show that's theonly talk show that is going to
last by a singer right now yeahkelly clarkson is amazing no one
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can like, disagree, no like onthat, because um, it seems like
everyone loves her it was likethe sayings, like when was the
last time like america felt likewhole or like on the same page
about something?
was kelly clarkson show, no, noeveryone agrees her on american
idol.
Oh my god yeah because, like itwas the first season of it, the
first really of its time, thatwas popping the hell off.
(32:21):
But she was also someone whowas country but then would kind
of go into these rock eras whenshe'd go out barefoot and her
look, she could sing any genre.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, and she has a great creative team that do
amazing things with her stylingand makeup and hair.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And so good.
She's so vulnerable about somany things on her show and I
loved whenever she brought thejudges, like simon and them from
her season, like on the show,and they were like we knew that
you were gonna win as soon asyou opened your mouth.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Wow I need to watch that episode.
It it's so good honestly, sowhat?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
else from your college um, so honestly, so
dangerous woman was really bigfor me, and that was actually
when I it is so good, honestly,what else from your college?
So honestly, so Dangerous Womanwas really big for me.
And that was actually when Ifirst started getting into
concerts.
I saw her and Little Mix openfor her.
I love Little Mix too.
They Just wait, I need to add.
Remind me that I need tomention Jade's song as an
honorable mention as my current,because that's so good.
(33:16):
College-ish was just kind ofthose songs.
None of them really reallystuck out to me.
Mention um jade song as anhonorable mention as my current,
because that's so good.
College ish was just kind ofthose songs.
None of them like really reallystuck out to me.
Um, because that I'm going tomention because it's my favorite
all-time album that includesmost of the songs that were from
that era love it.
Okay that I want to do like nowwhere I'm at in my life,
(33:37):
motivational and also just how Ihyperfixate.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is going back to you playing one song all week
long.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, the most recent time I did that.
That one's not even on hereShadow by Kesha but I still want
to mention it Because if noone's listened to it, because
you will overlook it in thatalbum it's so good and what she
did, the ted talk thingy, my boband would she?
Who isma?
Is that who she looked likewith their little head thing?
oh, yeah, but not her fromemperor's new groove yeah, but
not her, just a little headdressthat she had on.
(34:08):
Yeah, um, this one might makeme a little emotional, but not,
not like for any bad reason.
I'll hold your hand if you want.
Oh, thanks, do you know jessemurph?
That's name sounds familiar.
Um, I think I've sent you someof her songs.
Okay, she, I know you love pinkand her emotive song.
Jesse murph sings a fuck out ofevery single song.
(34:29):
It's raspy, it's raw and shesings uh, what happened to ryan
was the song that about how,like they were young and dumb
and she was drinking.
He was drinking and she waslike regretting that he died.
I think maybe like, do you or adrinking driver, something?
like that and she was like Ifeel like a shitty friend, so I
knew I should have taken likethe bottle of the cup that's
(34:51):
that's who she is.
I just want to explain that but,um, the song's not released,
but I've seen her in concerttwice um now and there's a song
called uh, wildflowers and wineand it's about her mom.
Okay, and like how like her momwasn't like treated super well
and like she would like by herparents.
(35:11):
No, by a partner.
Oh, okay, I don't know, her momwasn't treated well by her
grandma, by Jessie Murphy'sgrandmother.
No, but like, don't ruin it.
Okay, sorry, no, you're fine,but this song I know you want to
cry, I don't want to cry, but Ithink you're, I don't know.
I have to play it for youbecause she, it sounds a lot
like you're a mom and how likemom you would do everything for
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us.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Like you would work.
Like you would work two jobs,you'd work three jobs.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Like to take care of us and even when you're not
being treated well by yourpartner, yeah, and she was
singing about how like she wantssomeone to bring you
wildflowers and wine, and it waslike oh I think I do know this
song and it was.
I think it may have showed it toyou maybe I don't know, but I
was, because it's like it was onthe set list.
She's saying it.
I was bawling my eyes out.
I sent it to my mom and it justoh, it just sent me for a loop
(36:04):
because it's so good and sheneeds to release it.
Jesse murph, please belistening to me right now.
Please release this song,because everyone else feels the
same way about their mom.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Go ahead, okay, so that makes me think of um this
song that I sing all the time,that you love, when I sing in
the car missing you love thatyeah okay, I sing the tyler uh
hilton version from one treehill.
Shout out um to all you onetree hill fans.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's like no one I saw them go back to their high
school a few years ago, did somephoto shoot.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Um, it always makes me think of my mom, because it's
like a song about missingsomeone but like not allowing
yourself to miss them, so likeit's about like denying that,
that feeling of like I'm notgonna let having them gone yeah,
having them gone and out ofyour life, and I'm just gonna
like pretend that I didn't wantto cry, but damn no I.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I didn't know that that's what it meant for you
yeah and early in the carbecause I know maybe, maybe
because you play it a lot aroundus, you tried to skip it.
And I said no no, no, I saidyou're going to sing the fuck
out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I know, I know.
And then you're like okay, nowbigger, better.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And then I was like you can hit it.
You can hit it, but you singthe fuck, just like you sing the
fuck out of the song Pop.
Oh yeah, we need to do somekaraoke soon.
Yeah, Honestly, I've beenmissing it, Sitting there in the
crowd Listening, Not having togo up there, Because I,
especially when you sing like Ikept making you sing songs today
because it just you just emote,so I don't know.
(37:30):
You just do it so well.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like Pink.
You saying I sound like pink?
Okay, let me stand on your abswhile you sing, because she did
it on the fucking news I saw.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay, so I'm going to .
That was just a shout out toour moms.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, shout out to our moms Songs that make us
think of our mom and how theyjust are fucking badass women.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, Because you know, especially growing up,
they're dealing with stuff thatwe know we saw about they're
dealing with stuff that we knowwe saw about, but just trying to
put on a good face and takecare of it I can't even take
care of myself, and they weretaking care of us, I know.
So, songs I've been listening towhich you're going to know one
(38:10):
of them right off the bat,because I did have to bring it
up to you, because I finallytold you the name of it Tattoo
by Lorene, oh yes, the winner ofEurovision, the only female to
win it twice, 2012, 2023.
Okay, then, what I have left ismy album and then honorable
mention overall, because I thinkit sums up the show pretty well
(38:32):
.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Okay, all I have is my current two favorite
girliesies.
Okay, give it to me and I'vealready mentioned them, like
earlier in like songs.
But sarah borales, she canfucking get it.
And kelly clarkson, I mean, Iliterally can listen to all of
(38:52):
their like every single album,every single song they've ever
made, and be very content solike who?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
okay, to round out your top three.
Yeah, artists, yeah, give meone more.
I'm not prepared what do youmean you're not prepared, was it
not Gaga?
Oh yeah, yeah, you're welcome.
Yeah, I set you up for that one.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
And Gaga.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, I would say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But like Sara Bareilles though, because
they're like the mainstream popgirlies people always having
Gaga or they're going to haveChristina Aguilera or just like
all these people that arepitting against each other, and
you're like I'm with SarahMorales.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I just love singer-songwriter vibes.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's very.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
yeah, Goes back to my like James Taylor, you know
thing that I like, grew uplistening to oh, that makes
sense, and you?
Those are all songs that youcan typically play on the piano.
That too.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So it benefits you musically.
Yeah, okay, truly, truly, truly, um, I want to so my all-time
favorite album, and when I sayit's, it has to be an album
really that, like, for me, movesme, but then also, um, I know
every single song on the albumand that's.
I cry when I laugh, when I crywhen I laugh by jess glenn oh,
jess, and most people only knowher from her, rather be there's
(40:13):
no place around.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, please
around me that's clean banditwith jess glenn.
Clean bandit plays the cello,yeah, yeah, I know, but she is
listed as a feature.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, oh my God, and like Dara Lark.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
They have so many good pairings, I know.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But that album for me , and I have been on the hunt
for that vinyl record with herautograph Ooh and again.
That's the only reason that I'mgoing to ACL Fest, really.
I mean, there's other peopleI'm excited about, like Rene
Rapp, because oh, slay theHighest on Boots.
But Jess Glynn sings myfavorite album of all time and I
am going to hear her.
Yeah, just like every song, wehave to come to an end, so let's
(40:55):
close it out with a bridge andhoney, we'll get you home with a
big Finale oh, I was going tosay belt, oh, that too, yeah.
Say belt, oh that too, yeah.
Or a soft falsetto like uh youhad to do back home.
So we'll go into victory andvice.
You want to start, yeah, um, myvictory.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
In a song I would say um, since we're going to go
along, you know, with this wholemusic yeah, so we're going to
like pick a our top song thatwe're listening to right now as
our oh, oh, no, that's not forme.
Okay, I'm interpreting itdifferent.
Oh, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I wanted to tie in a victory with a song because it
had to be from right now.
Oh, okay, okay.
So mine would be Music by JoJo.
Okay, I played that for youjust a few minutes ago, and how
music's always been therethrough all these tough times.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And I think that that's kind of what from my
breakup album, the whole jojoalbum.
Um, what's the album called?
You're gonna steal my song.
Oh, I'm not gonna.
I won't say the song.
Um, hold on, what was it?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
it's just the whole album.
It was her like um well, it wasjust called jojo, I think it
was like it was her, like it washer first like outside album
outside of the her label yeah, Ithink I'm pretty sure we could
be wrong.
We will um call kyle out oninstagram if he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
um, but I was in palm springs celebrating my birthday
when my boyfriend cheated on meat the time and that was the
album that I was listening toand it just like became this
like album where every time anysong on it comes on, I flash
back to the airplane flight,back sitting next to him,
(42:43):
knowing that it was over, andlike listening to that.
I literally had to like putlike a pillow over my head
because I was just like cryinginto the window.
I thought I I was gonna spendthe rest of my life with this
person and you have to sit nextto them on a fucking plane.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah kyle, you know that I make rash heart, uh,
emotional decisions.
Yeah, I would have probablyeither rented a fucking car and
I hate driving yeah, or like youknow what, from palm springs to
seattle, though you know what?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'm just gonna live here now, yeah, not moving back
there.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
From your breakup album.
I'm glad it's my victory.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, but it's because I think it's All my suffering is
your victory.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Okay, just like my 401k.
So come for me, bitch.
Maybe, I'll be entitled tofinancial compensation because
of you?
No, but it All of the songs.
I think when you and I talkabout songs, we really go in
deep Because, even if we're notfeeling that same emotion, just
the fact that someone is sharingthat emotion, that's why we
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really enjoy music.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, and the fact that the person that is writing
it may be thinking aboutsomething completely different.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
But it has the same emotion as whatever.
It is that like the way thatwe're interpreting it, you know,
yeah, like love story love songby sarah braless right, I
didn't know that up untilrecently, right, that was about
a big fu, but um so.
Music by jojo.
She sings about how music'salways been there for her, like
even when she was uh dealingwith stuff from her childhood
and like even how, like she, youknow, got into like a similar
(44:10):
adjacent mess as far as like beuh kesha is about being trapped
in her uh record deal that shesigned at 12 years old right and
still singing about how shestill loves music and it's
always been there for her.
And although she's gone throughall of that, she I don't know it
, just it's such a beautifulsong to me because all of the
stuff that she's gone through,all of that shit, she, I don't
know it, just it's such abeautiful song to me because all
of the stuff that we've gonethrough at different times in
(44:31):
our life, like music's alwaysbeen there yeah, oh, I love that
.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Um, okay, I, my victory is just like my favorite
song of the moment.
Okay, and it's the new song byk Minogue.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You did say you were going to.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Tovelo or Tovelu as she says.
Yeah, as she pronouncesproperly in the song, and Bebe
Rexha.
All three of them arephenomenal.
I mean just like independentartists on their own, but
putting them all together blewmy mind La la, la la la.
I asked you if you were gonnause this yeah wait, what's the
(45:11):
song called my oh my, my oh my?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
oh, why?
Because I asked you.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
You thought I was thinking of what I thought you
said my, my my, I thought youwere like choice of on no, I
said my, oh my you heard whatyou wanted to hear, okay well, I
did not skip that song earlieron the radio.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
My, my, my.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yes, that's my favorite Cause.
I wanted to use it.
No.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Okay, why is it your favorite, other than like three,
like boss bitches, like what isthis song itself?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
It's just like an amazing bop and like, as soon as
it comes on, it puts you in agood mood and, like you, just
like, want to shake your booty,truly.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I told you I listened to it for eight hours straight
at work on thursday, yeah, andthen I showed it to you and I'm
like you have to fucking listento this, and usually it's like
an emotive song or a song you'veprobably heard me play.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, but you were like yeah it was a new song for
me and, yeah, caleb introducedme to it and there's a music
video for it.
That also slaps, I mean.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
And except, except for Bebe.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Rexha's hair in it.
Everything else is great.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Okay, I'm not about tearing women down, but I can
support it because it's not myfavorite hair look Okay, but she
looked fucking great.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
She did Head to toe.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
The hairstyle fits the look.
Okay, I'll say that, agree todisagree.
That's fine.
Style fit the look.
Okay, I'll say that, agree todisagree.
That's fine.
Um, my advice it involved, uh,doing an extra what?
Two miles of leaving ourinitial night last night.
A mile out and a mile in, yeahso I look at we're like ish
slowly starting to put thingsaway.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Kyle made a soup for breakfast everything's soup when
it's dehydrated food, even whenyou add the right amount of
liquid.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
And then we had the biscuit and gravy, which is like
licorice, and it just was notgood.
So we're like sitting there I'mreading my book and Kyle's like
I'm helping Kyle start to putstuff together.
I was like Kyle, we're going tohave to go soon and I was like
nature is a calling.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I was like, oh, you got to go.
And you're like, nope, I'm notgoing to go, I'm not going to go
on the beach, I'm just going towait.
Everything's going to be fine,but I got to go.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And then I look over and you're like there's an
outhouse.
I was like there's four peoplein line.
So, kyle, I am having to runback to the trailhead, right now
and then I was like what ofthis can I take with me?
Make a quick decision, becauseI have to go yeah so that way
it'd be an easier trek back.
What I tell you?
I hiked and there's a littlebit of here with hill, with some
steps.
I made it there just like speedwalking, because there's people
(47:37):
and I'm passing them.
13 minutes, wow, the longest 13minute mile.
I mean that's as long as ittakes for most people to run
okay, but but if you think aboutit that it's uphill.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
No, that is very fast , is what I'm saying?
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And I was holding the good Lord and I was praying,
there was beads of sweat comingdown my face, oh my God.
And the entire time I'm likeyou know what?
Because I was just reading myIFS book.
I'm like this is a time that Ican work on coaching younger
caleb.
Let's do, let's do some partswork, because it was the part
being your butthole.
No, I was talking about likestay in.
No, I was like talking aboutlike parts that had come up
(48:14):
recently we had a conversationearlier because it allowed me
enough to get like almost likedisassociated from present self
and to like work on like innerchild stuff, which is so odd,
but that's what I was, the onlyreason I was able to make it not
believe you're working on innerchild stuff while you were
trying to keep poop from comingout of your butt?
kyle.
You know what, when they saywhen inspiration hits you and it
(48:37):
would seem to work for you.
It's.
It worked because it got mymind so off me having to,
because there's a few times I'dlike stop and like, okay, deep
breath, hold it, you can do it,you can do it.
It's.
What's so funny is I didn'teven like make it to the porta
potty, like near a parking spot.
There's two at the trailhead.
I and I was like, oh my god, Ican't bring these bags in with
me.
I didn't even care what was inthem, I threw them to the ground
(48:57):
next to the porta potty yes andthen I'm in and out quickly,
thank god, I hate it I hatesitting there forever.
Okay, bear with us on this nextlittle segment as we um finish
up our vice and virtue I'm justa girl learning how to edit and
record a fucking podcast, andthe content is so worth it it's
(49:18):
worth it and we know it soundskind of like tinny, but, um, I
don't know what we did.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
We were in the freaking rainforest.
Okay, just like give us a breaknot being hosed in the whole
rainforest yeah, okay, umcontinue listening.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Okay, so I got to the fucking porta potty.
Threw your stuff down, threw iton the ground, and I was in and
out of there so swiftly that Ilike.
Could I pause my timer when Iwas in there, like my walking
tracking on my watch?
There is sanitizer in there, bythe way.
Because Kyle did ask, I did useit double pumped.
Okay, so then I go and I putthe stuff in the car or the van
(49:55):
and then change and then get myuh monster and then I'm booking
it back.
Didn't you say?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
you.
You went so fast that you liketurned back around.
You were like wait, did I go?
Like you came out, wash yourhands, grab the bag, and you're
like wait, did I already go?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
okay, but this is gonna be tmi, but I'm just gonna
share it anyway.
So, like for you specifically,like you, pee, when you first
sit down to go, you do yourbusiness, you sit oh, I got it
okay, oh my god, kyle, let meget to the finish line.
So you pee when you first getdown there, because then you
like it's not happening at thesame time, and then it happens,
and then like do you know when?
Because then, like a little bitmore pee's done.
(50:35):
I'm like, oh, there's no morecoming out.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Wait, I'm so fucking louis,wait what?
But like why do I feel weirdcheering it?
I know, because, like that's mytimer.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I didn't know that anyone else did that.
I know right now and thank god,I'm talking about my bowel
habits and but it's so true,like you, first you pee, then
you go number two.
Wait, can you pee a little bitmore?
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I don't know why can we please post this as a poll on
?
Instagram because I first off.
I want to know does it happen?
Speaker 2 (51:07):
to anyone?
Anyone, does anyone pee and pooat the same time?
But then I want to know is it?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
if, if people doing it, but is it men only?
Or can like?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
women, women, pee and poo at the same time.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, oh, wait, no, kyle.
That's not what I was saying soyou pee and then you poop.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
But then, like you pee a little bit at the end,
yeah, and that's when you'redone.
You don't know if women do that, yeah, yeah.
Well, I want to know if anyoneelse does that.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, but now whenever I know you're pooping,
I'm like, okay, he's probablydone.
I heard the dribble.
Because that's such a, that'ssuch a safe way, I'm like, okay,
I can go in now hello, okay, noyou better be juicy, because I,
just like, was very vulnerable,literally with my pants down.
I'm from the whole world rightnow.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Okay, my advice is that, um, the day before we left
on the trip, I woke up and Ihad this crick in my neck.
And I still have this crick inmy neck, as you heard at the
beginning of the episode, and Ijust like slept on it.
Weird or something.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Or, as Caleb said, in your king size bed.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, and I was determined to hang upside down
because I was like this is goingto fix my crink in my neck.
And so I was like I'm going toget my aerial silks hung from
the ceiling.
I have to get this anchor intothe ceiling, but I don't have a
ladder.
So I'm like what am I going todo?
I go get my dresser, I take outall the drawers, I move it over
(52:34):
to the middle of the bedroom soI can stand on top of it to
drill holes into the ceilingWith your stud finder.
I had a stud finder, I had apower drill.
I mean, I was A handyman.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I was a fucking handyman After asking for
someone who could be yourhandyman on Grindr.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Anyways, in the process of taking the drawers
out, I broke one of the supportbars to the drawer, so I was
like, great, now I have to fixthat.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
And that's where it starts, because what did you do
when you were still standing onit?
Speaker 2 (53:02):
So I'm standing on it and I'm drilling into the
ceiling and I found the stud andI hit metal and I'm like great,
so like what is going on?
I watched all these YouTubevideos.
I'm trying to figure out likewhy is there metal around the
support beam?
And I'm looking out the windowI'm like seeing where the beam
comes out.
I'm like there's no metal outthere.
(53:22):
Why is there metal in here?
So then I go down to anotherone and I try to like find that
one, and then I just give up andI put like my dresser away and
I I do use my power drill to fixthe support beam with a new
screw and put the drawers backoh, I didn't know this.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
I thought we just haven't break two broken
furniture pieces no, I fixed it.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But then I go downstairs and david, our other
roommate, um is like kyle, yourcar is like leaking some sort of
fluid.
I was like like awesome, I justgot my oil changed, maybe
something like that's going on.
Then I opened the hood and likethe oil is just fine.
I like check the dipstick I'mvery butch so I know how to do
(54:05):
that and then I noticed that thecoolant is like below the men.
So I'm like what the actualfuck is going on?
Um, why is my day being soterrible and why is nothing
working out?
And I was just having like areally hard day and you skipped
another broken furniture pieceoh my gosh.
Yes, and the.
(54:27):
I have like a little bench thatI used to step up onto my
dresser to drill the holes andwhen I got down off of it one of
the legs snapped off of it soyou should just not be on
furniture.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
I should just have no furniture and also what I love
is maybe we should like tellaustin and brian not to listen
to this episode, because theyknow that you just drilled into
metal in the roof okay, but Ionly like took a little bit of
drywall off but the metal piece.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
I didn't drive, I didn't drill into it.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
You just felt it.
I just felt it Like when you'reputting a shovel in the ground
you hit a rock, you're done.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
And I could see a little bit of metal and I was
like this is not going through,it's wood and I need to be able
to drill into wood to hang myaerial silks.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Imagine you're like, okay, it's probably fine.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
And then you but I was also like, maybe if I fall
and hit my neck, it'll fix it.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Or severely damage you.
Yeah, you have been askingabout these aerial soles.
We just have to borrow a ladderor you can do a basket toss.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
I have friends coming over next week to help me do it
who have a ladder, and one ofthem is a contractor.
So yeah, have contractorfriends and mechanic friends.
They're important, he's comingprepared for that.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
That'll be a fun Also .
Hopefully he doesn't hit metal.
He probably knows he's like oh,there's probably metal there?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, I'm assuming that's what contractors do for a
living.
Do they have metal?
Speaker 1 (55:42):
detectors.
Are they one of those peoplewho just start knocking on the
wall?
They're like that's a stud.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Maybe he'll be knocking on you.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
I'm like, oh, that's a stud.
Um, I felt like, oddly, thisepisode went really fast,
although it definitely didn't,because this is a lot of content
.
Yeah, um, is there anythingelse that you want to say about
music?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
kind of, as we close after victim advice I would say
like general theme for me whenit comes to music is it has such
a huge impact on my likewell-being, my mood in those
moments, and like having aproperly um prepared soundtrack
(56:21):
for your life, I think is reallyimportant and like that's what
these songs are to me.
They're like soundtracks to mylife, you know, and just like a
song comes on and it likereminds you so much of a movie,
like a song comes on my ipodshuffle or whatever, and it
brings me right back to thosemoments.
(56:41):
And I would also say that likeI think that like being a really
like sensitive kid growing up,maybe like the two are tied
somehow, not that like the musicmade me sensitive, but or like
me as a kid being sensitiverelated so much to like those
(57:02):
really like emotional songs, um,I think they definitely like
had a interplay with one another, you know that's interesting
because you know we talked aboutempaths last time and I almost
felt like that's also a releaseof whatever emotions you're
picking up around you, becausethere's sometimes.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
I would just listen to a song, just not necessarily
how I'm feeling and it almostdoes, is like, oh, I'm
understanding their, thatemotion that someone was just
sharing with me, and like thisis me almost letting it out of
me now oh yeah, like for youpersonally, it's letting, like
letting, like letting theemotion that I kind of picked up
from them that listening to asong about it or something was
(57:41):
like so it's not like, just forlike shit.
I've been through.
It's more of, like you know,taking on other people's
emotions or baggage or weight.
It's like this has nothing todo with me.
Like feeling something from itbecause it's my release yeah,
yeah, and bathtubs yeah, whatabout you.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Do you want to say like anything about music and
why it's important to you?
Speaker 1 (58:00):
I will say it's always just, it just explains so
much about like how I'm feelingbut also can pull me out of
such a negative space too.
So, like, there's times like Ijust want to, like it's almost
like someone's in that hole withme and I want to listen to that
song because, like, I'm feelingseen and feeling heard, but
then you know like if you're ina grumpy mood or if, like you
(58:21):
know, you're feeling emotionalor whatever you need to get
yourself out of it.
I also turn to like theseuplifting, motivating, like
badass songs.
So I just think it it it'salways there to adapt to what
I'm going through because, likeyou you said it's a soundtrack
to your life.
Yeah, and honestly, like anartist is experiencing the same
way, releasing music, and I feelso I just love that time period
(58:43):
in their life I'm experiencingand it could be like an album
they released 20 years ago.
It could be an album theyreleased recently and it's
always just meant a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, well, with that we will say goodnight to the
listeners at home and we havesome mashed potatoes to eat.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
Maybe that'll be my victorynext week.
Because I'm so excited.
We had two cups of them lastnight.
Now we have two more.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
They actually are pretty good and they're hydrated
.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
And there are four cheese, four cheese and we did
bring the fifth cheese, the mostimportant craft single.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
I know, that was my idea last night but what?
If we brought a craft singleand put that in there?
Speaker 1 (59:22):
more plastic.
That's what you've decided.
That like what I like to tastehis palette is uh, yeah, how
much plastic is this made with?
Honestly or cardboard yeah, twoin the same singles.
I'm full, I ate it up.
Finger looking good, I'm happy.
Dehydrated potatoes, oh my god.
And the stuffing we havestuffing, oh my god, I'm so
(59:44):
excited.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
So y'all, I need to continue this excitement, but
until next week we wish you wellkeep singing bitches.
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