The Satellite Spotlight | The Confab 17: Boo Bury - Ungovernable Misfits

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Bitcoin
is close to becoming worthless.
Bitcoin.
Now what's the Bitcoin?
Bitcoin's like rat poison.
Yeah.
Oh. The greatest scam in history.

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Let's get it.
Bitcoin will go to fucking zero.
Welcome back to another confab episode.

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This is not just any Confab episode.
This is the first episode hosted by John. He was joined by Boo Berry.
They talked podcasting two point o,
music,
and much more. I knew these two would hit it off, and I really enjoyed listening through as I've edited.
I won't spoil the show by banging on, but I really think you're gonna enjoy this one. If you check the show notes, you can find Boo Berry and everything that they're doing. It's really cool linking up with these different groups.

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There's a lot of similarities
between the mesh to del ungovernable
misfits
and what these guys are doing.
Before we jump in, I wanna say thank you to everyone who boosted the last episode.
The last episode was with Badr's.
If you haven't checked it out already, go back and have a listen.
John with twenty one thousand four hundred and twenty sat says Badr's is my spirit animal.

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Wartime with 10,000
sat's more of this shit, please. Fire, fire, fire, fire.
Rod Palmer from the Bugle News,
hashtag forty hours per week with 10,000 sats.
Some French are based after all.
Shadrach
with 8,389
sats, no message. Eight Mithrandir with 7,777

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sats with a mind blown emoji.
Otis Bittmeyer with 2,500
sats, a most intriguing
episode.
Chill now with 2,222
sats, Baddas gets it. Max, you are still a cunt.
A smidge less, though. That's very nice.
Masters
of deception

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upon their tainted thrones,
systems built on whispers,
lies,
religious institutions
full with spiritual
prostitution,
desperate for more,
depravity's
puppeteer.
A revolution begins,
corruption's demise nears,
the system shatters,
rebuilt from the fragments,

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a minor clutch
awakening
of new algorithm,
question mark
end code glitch.
Oh, it's another one of these cool
it's break data. I don't know how you do this. It's really cool. It's like different type of text. Maybe we can put that in the show notes. I like it. Gigi with a thousand sats. My mind is blown by badder's quick TLDR.

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How the system we find ourselves in operates.
Incredible
episode. Highly recommend. Everyone gives it a listen and starts learning how to exit the system and become a true sovereign individual.
FOMO chronic, good guest. Sats Misfit. Holy shit. What an episode.
Rog and SC Bitcoin UK. 5 hundred sat. Yes. I agree with Max's sentiments about all the boring useless bullshit by most Bitcoiners on x.

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That's why this podcast is so refreshing with its focus on privacy.
Also, Max's voice is calm and soothing
and sends me to sleep after ten minutes.
Glad to be of service, mate.
Bitcoin table, 420
sets of fight back.
God set with 237
sets. Thank you, gentlemen.

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Pies with a hundred sets, v for v, forty hours per week. And thank you also to all the streamers. Poe Janmies with 16,170
sets. Daniel Prince with 3,604
sets. And Kaz Pieland with 1,278
sets.
Yeah. Thank you so much to everyone who's been supporting the show. It really does mean a lot. Thank you also to Badrz from the last Confab episode, governments are legal fiction.

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If you haven't checked it out, go and have a listen. It was a really interesting one. I always enjoy speaking to batters, and I think you're gonna love it if you haven't listened already.
Before jumping into the episode, I just wanna say a huge thank you to the show's sponsors,
Foundation
and Cake Wallet.
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and enjoy the show.
Cover.
I I just hit record because this is such good stuff, and this always happens on podcasts where you have these conversations beforehand and these conversations afterwards, and then you hit record and people are like, you know, what's your You're burning show material. Where'd you grow up,
man? Tell me about your dad. Did he beat you? Not hard enough. Yeah.

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It was a big problem. And just to catch everybody up, Booberry's been teaching me a lot of things about live streaming and how to add in sound bites and, you know, when you guys listen to action news or the message I'll show, you know, that we play a lot of sound bites. I told Booberry before the recording, like, the way we do shit is super clunky,
and I'm kind of embarrassed, and you promised not to

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not to shit on us too much.
I I think, specifically, I said I was gonna judge very openly.
Oh, I'm okay with that. Go ahead. Judge.
Just hold on, new
Loosely, tightly. Either way, it won't let go. Yeah. Don't cling too tight. Well, I won't. I'm trying not to.

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Welcome to a confab, everybody. This is a different voice for people to, tune into on a confab. I've never done one before. We stole one from Max. Because you were such an interesting character to interview Boo Berry, it it would have been too much for him.
Only I can handle you.
Thank you. Boo Berry?
The Boo Berry? The one and only. You're from behind the schemes

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podcast, but you got a lot of things going on beyond that, especially in the music side of things, streaming music. That's why you're on the show, really, because,
I love music, and I love this whole streaming thing. And I have a really hard time finding new music because we're also pigeonholed into Spotify and Apple Music

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and what's on the radio. You know, you used to be able to listen to top 40, but then tune in to an AM station or some kinda college radio station back in the day and get exposed to new music. You used to be able to go into the the record store and and flip the records and talk to the comic book record store guy, and he'd turn you on to a a new band or or see a zine there in the record store. And we just don't have that anymore. So me, like, the older I get, the less and less open I am to new music. So I appreciate shit that you're doing to expose people to to new things. Like, there still is good music out there, believe it or not. There's a ton of phenomenal there's there's, like, life movie quality music out there,

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soundtrack
level music,
ellenbeats.com,
l n lightning network beats Com, or you could just type in Ellen Beats, like,
Ellen DeGeneres beats Ellenbeats.com.
She beats kids. She beats the list of on Epstein Island.
Woah. Interesting choice with the blue and white stripes.

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That's crazy. Go figure. Nice background, Ellen. Wow. This is so tropical.
Love those panda eyes, don't you, Ellen?
It was, we were
looking back through
the podcasting two point o catalog
yester yeah. Yesterday. Last night. Yeah. And I was, showed another guy the first episode where Adam Curry, Dave Jones on the podcasting two point o show. There is a specifically a show called that, and that also

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inevitably became the sort of colloquial name for the new podcast features. There is no official name
as of yet. It's just the podcast index and the update to the namespace.
But two years ago, 05/09/2023,
or May 4, they debuted on the first time on that show the ability to play a song. Mhmm. And

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while that song was active or playing or live, the podcast app would be able to switch the wallet
to that person, kind of like a chapter that would do the name of the song. So the the name of podcasting tube changed to Higher Gravity, I think, was the name of the song by Joe Martin.
And,
on the posted version, when you went back to listen to that track, if you use CurioCaster

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from Stephen Bell, a podcast playing
app, a web app,
PWA,
it would allow you to send sets to that artist. Mhmm.
And,
Lavish, my, better half and I, we've always been
big fans of music on the show
every week going back forever.
And you're talking about behind the schemes. That is correct. You've had behind the schemes for a while. 2020 is when we started it. Okay. So it wasn't until a couple years that before you discovered these lightning type tools to be able to play music and have other people interact with music on your show.

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Oh, man. I mean, the the lightning stuff came around
It was September
2020,
I wanna say.
September
2020.
I know when they did the first podcast in two point o episode, and I was a little late to the party, but I was definitely
still,
aware of the show. And,

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sir Spencer and I and a handful of other Power Ranger podcaster friends of ours,
we're doing a show that kind of highlighted clips of
podcasts that were live
throughout the week from the No Agenda Network, the stream,
which has a dozen live shows or more. Some come, some go. That's a twenty four hour stream that they just have the group of Curry and the Keeper, no agenda podcast adjacent shows. You guys are like a little ecosystem.

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Mhmm. And you're on that, and Spencer and Lorian are on that. Bowl after bowl, homegrown hits, Nick the rat Yeah. Playing a
rage, grumpy old, no,
unrelenting. Excuse me. A whole ton of people, lightning thrashes
every week. There's there's live shows
that go down, and, they post

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published episodes that, you know, the most con the most current episode Mhmm. Can end up on the stream. Really, the only requirements is it's it sounds, you know, of quality and
has no ads. That's all it takes to get on there. How do you guys handle the handoff of this? Is this some central coordinator, or is it more organic? Like, that's my time slot and I'm going on? It kind of

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it's all like
a gentleman's agreement. There's a couple of people that do manage it. Cotton Gin, Cerbemrose,
they're two of the,
admin.
It's ran
overall by void zero, which is, you know, if there was a guy that was a hole in a torch and I just needed to absolutely find the biggest stick and wrap it with something

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quasi flammable and then run up and, like, light that torch
to continue on what
he's been doing, that's the guy that I'm gonna go to is is void zero. He's the dude that
set up Zero node. It's a IRC chat room. You're talking about it last night, and I was like, I have to look into Zero node, obviously. And
this IRC chatbot and this gal chatbot you have and this other thing,

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it's almost you have a a team of real humans and then a team of bots that help you guys out, and you've given all these bots such personality.
Oh, yeah.
Gals coming to the grave with me. I'm yeah. I had an inkling that you were kind of in love with her.
Yes. That's also accurate.
Can you introduce me, bro? Yes.

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Most definitely.
I'm not much of a sharer. Oh my goodness. That's, that's hilarious. What kind of modifications
could my gal chatbot have compared to yours? Instead of you are two decks.
Slot.
You've almost become like a a lawnmower man. You're in the matrix

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simultaneously with with the real world. So you have all these tools at your hand, you have all these bots at your fingertips, and you're so quick in interacting with them. Do you feel like higher than than a normal human level because you have this much control over technology in real time? Hacker voice, I'm in.
It's,
I mean, ZeroNodes really the livestream,

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I would say,
for behind the schemes,
bowl after bowl,
hunger and heads, like the rat. That's where we all met and interacted.
And we,
you know, it's like all of the social media stuff aside. Like, it's kind of a drag.
Yeah.
Well, you just wanna hang out with your friends. Yeah. And that's that's where I go to do that, zero node. And there's people you know, it's an open door. People come in and, you know, sometimes people go, and that's just the nature of it. But there we all are, and there's, you know, bots that draw terror cards. It's a very, like, utilitarian

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sort of hang.
It's like a lot of I shouldn't say like,
a lot of work gets done. Is. Yeah. A lot of work gets done through
the IRC chats,
and they're integral to the shows. I mean, the the the way that we
slaughter goats on our show every week, we use a IRC chatbot to actually trigger all of that. So there's a Python script that sits there and looks at the boost spot that's,

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you know, relaying the boostograms and the messages and the names and the amounts to the chat room so everybody can see it. And, Servo set up a piece of script called IRC Cacao or IR Cacao Fani,
and it listen or it looks for that message coming from Gal,
the boost spot.
And then it murders a goat for somebody and it's randomized. And, you know, that's all triggered off of a unique amount. And there's gimps that you can torture and you can knock out Adam Curry's tooth for a for a set amount. And there's black lights that you can turn on and all sorts of different stuff, and it's all ran through

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an IRC chat and a Python script. The cool thing now is Eric PP, who I work with really close or we work with really closely for the concerts and the music. He's a he's a big time producer in a lot of ways.
He took over
the
care
or curation. I'm not sure the right way to describe it, but

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when you set up a lightning
node on RaspiBlitz
or start nine, you can get, an app called Helipad,
which shows you all the boostergrams that come through. And he took it a step further. Not only could you code in custom numerology that would show up for you in in your, quote, unquote, inbox,

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it shows you the streams of people that have been, you know, streaming sets. You can set up custom sounds for custom amounts, but you can also do webhooks in real time. So, like, one great example is, another
no agenda livestream show, millennial
media offensive. Try spelling that. No.

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Live every, Tuesday,
one of the hosts,
he set it up. He's done a couple things where you you boost his show, and it watered his lawn. Mhmm. Or you boost his show, and it got his his Christmas tree flashing because he's, you know, just had the the know how to get it integrated with how his home setup is. Yeah. I I remember years ago, it was just exciting when somebody had a a lightning enabled chicken feeder Yeah. Which you could feed their chickens. You guys have really taken this to a whole another

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stratosphere.
This I I I said to you last night,
do you think
you know, I'll rephrase it for today. Do you think some people would be intimidated coming into your
your ecosystem?
Because I was last night talking to you on on the phone.
You know, you've got all these you've got Helipad. You've got this IRC bot. You've got this ISO dev. You've got the soundboard.

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You're just rallying off all these no agenda
adjacent names to where if I came into a livestream,
I would feel a little bit intimidated. Like, am I coming into somebody's club?
Am I coming into, like, a a private club? And you're like, no. You're just walking into a dive bar. And I had said to to Jordan, our producer,
this morning, he's like, you know, good luck on the pod. I was like, yeah. It's a little bit intimidating. It's it's like walk it is like walking into that dive bar except in the corner, somebody's slaughtering a goat.

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And then and nestled up to the bar, you've got Karl Marx playing
Yahtzee with Sigmund Freud,
and Frankenstein's the bartender. You know? It's like it's it's a a dive bar with a lot of character in it, and I could see it being intimidating for some people to come into your ecosystem.
And what what would you say? What What would how would how would you make it more inviting people or be like, hey. You're here for the freak show or you're not? Well, I think they should be intimidated.

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I rather like people to be intimidated when I first meet them. Yes. Shock and awe. I came here to spectacle.
It's definitely rub bra, people raw.
We've done some really just, like, out there, outlandish
type of of shows with,
Lavish and myself.

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One of them was we
turned the fire on, dimmed the lights, and we pulled out a a chessboard, and we played an online game of chess between each other. We recorded it and turned it into a GIF. And I got to thinking, well, maybe we could take this a step further and perhaps do the same thing with Super Bomberman two for the SNES. So we got up together and played that for an episode and and recorded it and chopped the video into several nerve wracking game. Yeah. Well, imagine trying to watch that, but the chapter's a GIF. And if you skip forward or listen to two x speed, then all of the sync is off. Oh.

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But, yeah, we we did, like,
six or seven
five minute GIFs of of, each game just kind of, you know, timed out this chapter art, and, we got some we got an angry message about that one.
From from who? It was through the text line, and, it was something along the lines of don't ever do that again.

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We've gotten complaints from our audience because I I told you this last night. When when Jordan came in, we really upped our podcasting two point o game with the chapter art and the gifts and the transcripts and the the sat splits and all. We never did anything like that before. Jordan brought us to a a whole another level. And I I told you last night, like, I I took over, uploading the gifts for and separating the chapters

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one time, and they were way too big.
And everybody's complaining, this is not loading. They expect everything to happen
immediately, and we got a lot of complaints. And I never I never did anything with putting the GIFs up again. And you're like, woah. Fuck that. I'll put up as big as I want to. I don't give a fuck. How do you get over those those technical hurdles that we seem to struggle with so much where this shit frustrates the fuck out of me, and I just wanna talk, but you seem to love it.

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Make bigger GIFs.
Great advice.
If you fucked it up with the big GIFs, it's because they weren't big enough.
Let them know you really mean it.
I don't know, man. It's we've been doing gifts for
it was pre
one hundreds, probably in the 80 range, give or take. It happened by total accident.

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I made a piece of artwork for my buddy, sir sir seed sitter, shit my ass dot com.
And,
he took that GIF, and, you know, I just thought of it as, like, a little, you know, one off gag, hee ho ho funny farm type thing.
And When life is beautiful all the time.
This mofo put it in his podcast
feed for put it in his podcast art for that week's episode. And I was like, woah.

(22:15):
You can do that?
It's on now. Oh, yeah. It it really, like
I bought a, VHS
effect pack for after effects, like a little,
template type thing
Mhmm. And just started making
different types of GIFs, and that was a long time ago.

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I'm almost scared for Jordan to hear this podcast because he's gonna go off the rails and want to add all of this stuff to Ungovernable Misfits. And I'm just gonna tell him, well, that's all on you, buddy.
Don't I mean no more for me. I do
I do try to be mindful. I have accepted ranges of file sizes.
Fifty
fifty megabytes. I'm like, okay. We can do a little more to massage this down, but I do take a lot of of effort to, like you know, they're all 15 frames per second.

(23:05):
The colors are crunched down. Sure. You know, it's it's really, like, it they really get massaged out to to get to that level. I think Jordan probably,
since I fucked it up, has solved all of these problems because I I've I've, you know, watched some of our episodes, and they seem to be pretty high def on there for for the chapter art. So maybe he did figure all this stuff out and was probably right just not to consult me because why bother?

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Yeah. I'm dropping a a little selection in the in the in the back channel chat between us. I'm scrolling through. I'm just looking at them all. I wish there was a way to, like,
just publicly display them without crashing a browser.
Well, so what what I'll what I'll do here is as we're going on, I have this on a timeline, and I'll just throw all this to Jordan and say, here. You figure out how to how to implement this so people can

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stay, caught up with us. Should they use all these podcasting two point o features? Now do you guys do you guys publish to a normal RSS feed, or do you stay within
a tighter ecosystem of CurioCaster
and Podcast Guru and and and those those tighter
podcasting two point o apps? Because I I wouldn't even mention Fountain because it seems like when you really wanna do all the cool stuff, Fountain kinda isolates you a little bit too much. So when I talk to to really heavy podcasting two point o users, you don't mention the word fountain. I know, for instance,

(24:21):
somebody who's who's big in your your ecosystem search, Ad Farrow, has even told us, stop calling them fountain boosts.
And I was like, oh, okay. I'll stop calling them fountain boost stuff to save value for value boost. I I, you know, I apologize. Well, I guess what was the context of calling it a fountain boost versus,
just a boost?
Because we were using fountain so heavily, so I just got caught up into it. There was nothing really intentional, but that's what most of our listeners

(24:46):
this was maybe a year and a half ago. Yeah. Most of our listeners were using Fountain because I I suppose they found the custodial lightning side of it easy.
And now it's kind of funneled people just over to this Nostra custodial lightning
side.
And I like that you guys
are I'm not gonna say you're you're anti fountain, but you certainly seem to be pro

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maybe two or three other podcasting two point o apps.
There's a couple of different
questions to to answer here, and, hopefully, I can kind of
hit all the marks.
In terms of Fountain,
Oscar and Nick put a ton of work into making that app happen. Yeah. And it shows.

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At times, it certainly
ends up being the thing as soon as people stumble into what is possible
or what has been possible over the last five years,
fountain wave lake, they become synonymous with that is
the driving force behind what is happening here, and that's,

(25:52):
you know, I is it in is it intentful? Is it unintentful?
You know, was it
did they directly put themselves there to be that? I I don't I have a good marketing team. Yeah. And they spend a lot of money on it. We also know what Bill Hicks said about marketers.
That's also how I feel about that. You know, I there's things that I've been using fountain forever.

(26:15):
Mhmm. Fountain, like, I remember fountain being a little heating pad in my pocket because it would just, you know, over overdrive your your phone. I remember that too. Trying to, like, clip,
all the the clip functionality at first was fucking terrible. Well, we used to do sorry. We don't used to. We

(26:35):
I still used to, but we used to as well,
play
songs at the end of every show and just, like, write it out with some clips. And I was like, oh, man. This would be sick if we could just, like, chop the very end off and, like, oh, you know, upfront, you could just, like, have all of the release as a little clip. But because they use that AI detection in the over the transcript, it always just, like,

(26:58):
mangled it.
So it didn't work, unfortunately.
You know, it's fountain is doing a very good job at what they are trying to achieve. Now what what does
Podverse,
CurioCaster,
Podcast Guru
we'll give it to split kit a little a little bit later, but what do those first three, Podverse, CurioCaster,

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Podcast Guru, what do they do well that you like? I like the video functionality
of Podverse.
You can stream both live video
and
audio through Podverse.
You can only do live audio on mobile on fountain, I believe. Now this might be changing or has changed with Noster integration.

(27:40):
They do do video on web, at least for fountain.
Podverse also does support
the value time split, which is the, the wallet
switching Mhmm. For the songs. Podverse supports that for published episodes.
Mitch, the creator behind Podverse,
which is also free and open source. Mhmm. He's, he's working on a,

(28:02):
a redo, a pod a Podverse two point o.
CurioCaster
is the ultimate sandbox.
Stephen Bell is a modern day tech alchemist along with Eric p p, Cotton Gin,
C Dubs, Servo. I mean, these are, like, these are the guys that are really, like The Hermes Trismegistus

(28:23):
of of our day.
I mean, they're the they're the guys that can that have the the skill set to actually put
these insane ideas together. Mhmm. So Stephen Bell created CurioCaster
as, you know, it's a one man, one, project. I think, Eric is helping him out now. I'm getting some stuff squared up there. But,

(28:44):
new feature gets discussed. Doesn't even have to get finalized in the GitHub for podcast index. He slaps it in there. He just goes.
Yeah. Yeah. He's all drive. You you know, the way you're describing is that you're just dealing with human beings as opposed to trying to deal with a company like Fountain.
And and I can tell you this for for Oscar Mayer's side of things. Anytime that we've had a problem,

(29:05):
we've DM ed him, and he's attempted to jump on it. But there's still this company corporate apparatus
around Fountain. And, yeah, they have great marketing, but it's less human. And I wanna say that in a nice way because I think Oscar Mayer is a nice guy. You know, with Max has had him on the show for a confab. I I've met him. I've touched him. Wow. What was that like? Electric?

(29:27):
Satisfying.
Where did you touch him?
Was he satisfied as well? God open.
We met him down in Nashville. We went to there was a big,
no agenda stream adjacent meetup. I was turning 33 that week. Bitcoin conference was going on in Nashville. We all met up to not go to the conference and hang out in an Airbnb.

(29:49):
Yeah.
But there was a even smaller group of us that went and checked out the
bands at Bitcoin live at Nashville that was across the street, that Phantom Power had put on.
Phantom Power is another concert outfit if you hadn't or if you weren't aware. That's kinda what what the silence was was happening. I'm like, god, please tell me what Phantom Power is. Is. Max, leave that pregnant pause in there, please.

(30:13):
Very pregnant. No editing on that one.
Bam. Bam. Thank you, ma'am. But, yeah, Oscar was there, so I had a chance to meet him. He was, in attendance to the conference and then came across the street
or Oscar, I mean. Sorry. Did I say Oscar or Max? You think you said Mary?
Oh,
yeah. That too. Oscar

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marries Max. That's a headline. So let me,
before we get much further, because you had one other part of your question that I should probably touch on. Fountain,
Podverse,
CurioCaster,
Nude Podcast Apps Com, all of those apps when you go to that website, nudepodcastapps.com,
yes, take off all of your clothes, nudepodcastapps.com,

(30:56):
all of those apps are
in support
of the podcast index, which is what
is
supplying all of the RSS feeds to Fountain, Podverse, CurioCaster.
Wave Lake submits
feeds to the podcast index. That's why Wave Lake shows up in fountain.
That's why, you know, things kind of get off off of

(31:19):
of of you of you obfuscate. Oh my God. Please help me obfuscate. Obfuscated.
I'll handle that one. I got you. With,
you know Which means how I'm falling. Wave Lake and fountain and whatnot Again, you know, intentful, unintentful.
I don't know. But it really it's like, oh, wow. You know, all of these new features and, like, wow. Look at, you know, these people changing the game and, you know, 1,000,000 sats boosted to my song, and it's like, oh, it was because it was on this platform. It was like, it was because that song was on that platform

(31:49):
that we used to, like, test run this stuff, and we were, like,
frothy excited and just there was people boosting mad sats. And it just, like, just gets used as PR.
Yeah. It does. And I can't say that Ungovernable Misfits isn't guilty of it as well. I mean, we you know, I have sent out tweets that said, oh, we're that show's number one this week on fountain's charts. We used to show up there on the fountain charts.

(32:15):
They use that as their marketing as opposed to
here's all of our features. Just take the biggest ones and and almost try to get a a tweet reboost by tagging everybody on the top 10.
Yeah. The there was a time there that
the top 10 was dominated on Fountain by the live no agenda podcast Mhmm. Or no agenda stream podcast.

(32:36):
It was, you know, it would be three Adam Curry shows and then millennial
media offensive, hog story,
bull after bull, BTS
Mhmm.
A whole slew of them. Do you think it's not like that anymore because the support has shifted away from using
primarily fountain?
You know,
Bitcoin minded

(32:57):
podcast app finds a bunch of Bitcoin minded podcasts, and that's what Yeah. That's what people, you know, gather for. I'd never interacted with Bitcoin. I was,
you know, territorially
aware and was curious, but I never interacted with Bitcoin up until
really just, like, getting ready to get the stuff needed to build my node for the first time. Mhmm. So it's really just been like The same raspy blitz that that you had mentioned the other night that you've had going since then. Yep. On a Raspberry Pi, baby.

(33:29):
Chugging along.
You've got the behind the schemes podcast
with Lavish,
but then you also have your satellite
spotlight thing Can I Let me let me ask let me answer one last question that you have presented
because I I was thinking about it too? You were asking about where we upload our feed, how we're hosted. Do we show up on other apps? Mhmm.

(33:52):
Our process is a little convoluted. It's the same process that Spencer
follows. Wouldn't recommend it, but it is interesting.
So we use a podcast hosting company
called podserve.fm
paid service,
$20 a month, very reasonable in my opinion.
So we handle that for, like, all of the the media files and whatnot.

(34:14):
But I took the RSS feed listing for us in the podcast index
and changed it to a self hosted feed. So I upload the episodes in one place and then build the RSS feed separately and upload it in the other location.
So we have our so that way I can like
I have the stability of, you know, if people trying to download stuff and it's not all like coming from the our website.

(34:40):
I I do want to change it. That's all part of the,
part of this year coming up. I really just want to, like,
take a lot of personal time and just overhaul the show in the ways that it needs to be done.
We I do want to step away from uploading in one place and uploading in a second place.
It's very just like,

(35:01):
stop.
But
it puts us in Apple and Spotify with our normal feed. Yeah, the pod serve one and then podcast and two point zero, I can put anything that I want in there, which is really, really fun. I almost wish Jordan was on this podcast
with us so he he could let me know what he has in line for everything. I mean,

(35:21):
usually, I'm just on the outskirts of Ungovernable Misfits. You know, I've got my Telegram groups, the the the that I, interact with often, my Pleb Miner group,
which I think you'd like not for a mining purpose, but we've got a a lightning enabled jukebox in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really it would really be cool. That's from Node Runners FM. The guys at Node Runners

(35:42):
created something. And then when I look at your ecosystem, like, the Node Runners jukebox seems so so clunky
by comparison. But in the Telegram group, you're basically running Spotify on your computer,
and the lightning jukebox bot can
add to the queue on Spotify.
So it's it's all in that, but I always thought it'd be cool. Man, I'd have somebody like you come on in in our Plug Miner mafia Telegram group and then just run the jukebox

(36:07):
for an hour, and we do some kind of thing in the Telegram group. Because, like I told you last night, I keep my communities
really small
and tight and have different levels of interaction with people, like in the Telegram groups, like in our signal groups, like on our Meshedale One Hour personal call that we have that we develop this family atmosphere, and you guys have that same family atmosphere.

(36:27):
It'd be neat to see these two worlds
get together. Yeah. Let's let them collide. That sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Send me a send me an invite to that channel, and,
when you and Jordan wanna sit down and and and talk more on it, I am
super game. Definitely. I mean, you know, Jordan
and Max and q and a are launching this livestream thing, and then we'll have the Monero

(36:49):
side with stuff for privacy. But I'm wondering if if Jordan definitely can't benefit from a a call with you
to help iron things out and even add features that
he he may not have even thought of. I'm gaming the time. And after,
May summertime
with summer ends up being our busy part of this of of the year, but, yeah, I'll I'll get on

(37:09):
damn near anytime you want. Let's do it. So let I I wanna I wanna backtrack
real quick just so people understand
who you are. Summertime's gonna be your busy season
for what? Your your your normie job. What about that? My my nine to five, that's Yeah, man. Seventeen hour days on the weekends.

(37:30):
I work, event production,
concert lighting
type stuff, lighting technician,
set up lighting rigs for bands to come in and then use for the shows.
Pretty much, provide house rigs for people to use. Mhmm. Sometimes we tour. It's more festival work. I just got into
a new position
stepping up, and I'll be more shop side of stuff just like getting these shows out the door prep wise, but I'll also be going out. I'll say, are are you happy about that being on the more garage side of things instead of the field?

(38:01):
I mean, at the end of the day, man, I
I I just love being a gritty, grungy stagehand. So there's there's some parts I'm like, but I know that's what we need just to,
like, not just get swamped. You know? Yeah. And things are gonna show up and then pop up out of nowhere, and I'll just be, like, the floater guy.
I heard on your show that you lit up a burlesque show This is true. The other day. Tell me about that. I decided that Lots of red. All projects are halting immediately, and I'm dedicating my life eternal

(38:35):
to just lighting burlesque shows.
Nothing else matters anymore. Wow.
I know. Yep. I gave up on it all for the burlesque. And this is women, though. I could see some some of these burlesque shows have transitioned into some kind of other transition.
Can confirm.
Allegedly, legend has it in Minecraft women from what I assumed. But, hey, you know what they say about assuming. So

(39:00):
Like an asset of her. Check out this segue.
One of the we have actual,
Chip and Dells shows coming up, which I was going to try and get on because, like, under thunder down under have done that one. Like, I don't I just like seeing people have a good time at the end of the day. Yeah. And,
I can't do Chippendales because we got the satellite spotlight

(39:23):
streaming live, made sense. Segue, man. You like that? That's a fucking pro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, man. Make my life easy.
We got four bands
streaming through podcasting two point o apps.
I mean, it really, like I I guess I haven't sent you this actual link. I don't have a redirect for it yet. We're gonna be featuring it on our website, which is getting worked on at this current moment.

(39:53):
Liveislit.com
is gonna,
here very shortly,
get turned into kind of like a open hub if people are doing shows. They have bands or are an artist, and they wanna post about stuff coming up. They can, you know, just sign up and
and do, like, public postings and stuff, and we're gonna have the links to the past satellite skirmishes

(40:15):
all featured there. Alright. Well, what what is a satellite skirmish? How many have you done? And let's transition to what's going on with the new one because we're thirty eight minutes into this.
It's fucking
start coming around the bend, coming around the corner when she comes.
The satellite skirmish
was an idea that Frankie Payne, production manager for Thunder Road Media and producer to behind the schemes,

(40:38):
Frankie Payne and I were working a gig together that was a actual in person battle of the bands, real world, no streaming, no Bitcoin, no nothing.
And our general takeaway was that was really fun.
We should do that. And,
we had already done a couple of shows
prior to that that were streaming

(41:00):
through podcast apps.
The first one that we got involved with was December of twenty
twenty three,
and it was Ainsley Costello
streaming live from First Avenue and O'Shaughnessy's,
which was set up through a local,
crypto community type thing. Oh, crypto.

(41:21):
Yeah. A bunch of NFT bros. Oh, there's a certain stream from a mall that will never be named, but
it was weird. This Costello girl is she's kinda popular on on these,
these streaming on wavelength. Ellenbeats.com.
Ellen beats. Thank you. Yep. Is that who that is? I saw her
on, Twitters and such. Her name seems relatively familiar.

(41:43):
Yeah. That's actually,
Lavish moonlighting
as a character.
Lavish has put a lot of effort and and work into that music, and,
it it really shows.
I'm I'm very proud of what he has been able to put together,
with the band, you know, the new Axelis track. Very good stuff. Cherry on top. I mean,

(42:04):
lavish.
Don't let me play the ISO again.
Play it.
Do it so quickly, lawnmower man. Tell me about it. We did, we we streamed a concert with Ainsley Costello.
My
just, like,
world changing, you know, this is so cool. I'm I'm so happy for somebody.

(42:24):
Moment about that show wasn't the fact that they had got 21,000,000
Satoshis streamed live through podcast apps,
and that was all people
mostly from zero node who knew how to boost already. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And there was a bit like a like a frothy fervor,
and, we were all very, very excited.

(42:48):
Frankie Payton and I provided lighting
setup for him and and stream assistance.
And, like, I live here in the miniocalypse where they were doing the stream from. So I went and like did a little site visit for them. And it was cool, man. That was the first
show that I'm aware of that had technicians
split in for a live event, and that was the first stats that Frankie Payne had ever earned. She never

(43:14):
I don't think she's still bought Bitcoin to this point. Only earned it. That's a wonderful story. And that's just, you know, one of the, like, most magical moments that gets kinda lost in the Wow. 21,000,000
sats. We've made so much money. Yeah. Yeah.
And, you know, can we can we touch on because you you expressed this very well, your philosophy on value for value. It's a production law. You said to me last night, it's it's like so many people it's they they put that worth on the amount of sets that they're earning,

(43:46):
but you had a much better way of doing that. It's such a it's such a shame. I I don't know why people would kneecap themselves like that.
It's ludicrous in my opinion. It's like
value for value.
It's a production model.
I go out. I'm going to create something of value. That value is then going to exist on the Internet without a paywall,

(44:06):
without corporate dollars. It is yours to enjoy at your leisure. The only thing that I ask of you,
I very specifically ask of you, Lavish ask of you, Spencer ask of you, Lorian ask, all of these people that are putting value
out there, you know, wants you to enjoy it. And if you choose to enjoy it for free, that's on you. But if you enjoy it, put some value back into it. Yeah. Does that value your time spent hanging out with us in the chat? Is that value spent on the time

(44:35):
screaming into your phone
like a maniac?
Is that time spent
earning a paycheck
to get some stats to send back to your favorite Substack writers? Like, who knows? That value is up for you to determine.
Mhmm. It's not on me. It's not my responsibility.
My responsibilities
ended with putting the thing out there. Yeah. Sort of. And, you know,

(44:59):
very broad view.
You put it out there, but, you you know,
you also have created this avenue for people to return the value back to you. Yep. And, you know, it gets known as time to treasure talent,
all talent. I'm pretty sure it's talent. I've I've never pronounced it another way.
So we,
were very excited after the,

(45:21):
oh, they did a show at First Avenue too, the second night.
That that December 2023 event. At the side stage, the Seventh Street entry, First Avenue venue, the smaller one. What was that called at that time? Was it called satellite skirmish?
This was just the first.
Yeah. This was
the first, you know,

(45:44):
concert stream specifically with podcast and two point o
live and streaming sets in mind. Mhmm.
We presented an idea to get down to Nashville for the conference with the lighting package, lighting rental, and do some stuff. And Frankie painted recommended, you know, maybe we could do, like, a side stage type venue to the Bitcoin conference, but was turned down. And we were feeling really,

(46:08):
fired up to do some more live shows, so we turned right around and and put that into
a local band called Twelve Rods here in in the Miniocalypse.
And, there was a a sound stage that was interested in what we were doing, so they let us use the room for free. Well, that's nice. We did a whole fundraiser to get the production
gear. I mean, made T shirts. We did a Mhmm. A goat murder drive. We we slaughtered goats as a fundraiser.

(46:34):
We dropped all of the goat murders down to 660
sex sets
and just, you know, let people go on a spree on the no agenda stream on a Sunday after the big show. It was a lot of it was a ton of work. I love this fusion, though, of local IRL stuff
and the more international
podcasting two point o space. Yeah. I need to I need to actually get a link to that,

(46:58):
concert so I can let you check it out at your convenience.
But that was the,
we called that the twelve rods,
Tor sorry. Twelve rods, Tori clips,
a v for v a mirror ball a v for v mirror ball stream featuring Malo Cassette.
I just I just want to direct everybody to to their podcasting two point o and check out this chapter art that Jordan is going to put in for behind the scenes. It says, if you boost this podcast, we'll kill this goat.

(47:29):
So it's a functional gift that I'm sure that'll fit just fine in there.
I think that was even, like, a a little bit of a smaller one too. Yeah. Yeah. It it does it that'll that'll go right in. Yeah. Check check it out now.
Uh-huh. I see one one of the goats that were slaughtered
just so twelve twelve rods could go on stage. But we had a 48 inch disco ball,

(47:49):
hanging up in the room with,
four lights focused on it and set it up. Every time a donation came through, we lit that motherfucker up Mhmm.
And,
had an absolute blast.
And two bands,
soundstage, we hung every when you go to see the stream, we hung every light in there, every pipe.
Power was ran from every single rehearsal space

(48:12):
in the room. It was a two day ordeal and then, like, streamed the whole thing and and and struck, produced from the ground up. This was
a this was a small group effort. Whose stream was that on? Was that on the the no agenda twenty four hour stream, or was that that cool thing else? Was it We used, well, the cool thing with streaming live in podcast apps

(48:35):
is it's really easy to do
rebroadcast of stuff. Mhmm. So I can take a live item from homegrown hits as an example, put it in the feed, And then when they go live, I can just update it on my side. And now I am rebroadcasting
their show
through behind the schemes, but it's got all of the homegrown hits
information in it. So when we did this concert, we streamed it through behind the schemes. We streamed it through homegrown hits. Okay. I have a Cloudflare

(49:04):
account for handling the video side of streaming, so it's a paid for Twitch.
But without all of the social media, it just hosts the video for us. And so when you rebroadcast,
then all of those the all the sat splits are still in there and Oh, yeah. Structured in the same way. Oh, yeah. But you can just keep hitting repeat
every month, every couple months to refresh people. You can have an event.

(49:26):
This is our you know, this is the whole satellite skirmish type family of feeds and do that for an event, and then all the splits will act in the same way. Mhmm. And then once you actually get in like, you start working in the live wallet switching because
you're copying what the original podcast host
put into their RS feed RSS feed, which is gonna have that live wallet

(49:50):
link that you need.
Those wallets also switch inside of your feed. It's so good.
I'm just shaking my hands artistically over here.
I'm, like, simultaneously French and Italian somehow. Hey. Hey.
Okay. So you just you just have the audio version. So I could take this, and I could stream it on my my Telegram channel through OBS just for everybody to to tune in and and hear the bands.

(50:19):
Yeah. We,
whenever we do a concert, we make sure to both release the video version and then take the tracks and Mhmm. Release them
Yeah. As an album so that other music podcasts can easily find those
and then play them on their shows. Your numbering and titling each track. Mhmm. It it's the format changes because, like, we're just kinda making this up on the spot. Yeah. Tried different ways of doing it. I'm really happy with the way the,

(50:46):
quote, unquote, remastered
the satellite skirmish feeds.
Now it's got at the very top, it's got the boost recap episode where we sit down and read through every single boostogram,
then it's got the video, and then it's got every single track. So you can go to one feed to either listen to all the music or get the video version.

(51:06):
That's also got chapters inside of it. Okay. The live wallet switching, so on and so forth. All of the tracks are represented
in their splits for each band respectively, so on and so forth. So the satellite skirmish was after Thanks. I'm just gonna ask that. Yeah. After we done the, the disco ball show,
it was kind of

(51:28):
presented
with this mentality
of, like, oh, it's just, like, trying to spend too much money to do these shows. And I was like, okay. Well, what if we do one that doesn't cost anything?
Woah. Woah. And that Woah. At the same time, we did,
we did that, battle of the bands I was telling you about with Frankie paint. Mhmm. We presented the idea and, like, just started developing this

(51:51):
idea for a show where we would have six bands all connects
in some capacity, and we would restream them, broadcast with all of the live splits. And one of the thing Nick the rat is, like, one of the most
critical members in this whole experience in my in my humble opinion because he is, like, the king of going out there and getting weird with it. And through his show,

(52:17):
I discovered
P and G tubers,
which is GIF puppets.
So, like, VTubers, but it's a GIF. Oh my god. I said fucking a.
And,
I was like, oh, man. Because, like, one problem with video shows
is it's like, oh, look at these guys talking into their microphones. This is super, like, compelling.

(52:43):
Yeah. And,
you know, I just
was like, man,
we should just do cartoon
MCs instead.
Yeah. So we
started just making this thing that's,
it was kind of basic in its themings
for that first one. We tried visual boost alerts for that, for that show. Eric p p set us up. I found this, like, a stream asset pack, and we used a lot of that

(53:11):
just to kinda get us started.
Okay. But, yeah, we had four cartoon MCs. I was,
reading the boostograms,
and we did,
had an intro video and credits and six bands played. I couldn't even tell you how much sats it brought in, tell you the truth. It was a great time. Each one of these six bands stream from wherever the wherever they were.

(53:33):
Their bedroom, the garage, some studio.
And that was what we were wanting to really
draw out of people is get them because the way I was looking at it was, you know, we're getting together every week to sit down and talk, listen to music, produce a show, bands sit down, they get together, they hang out, they jam, they rehearse. Yeah. If they were to

(53:54):
integrate a stream to some capacity, I mean, that is a show in and of itself. Absolutely. The door falls who we were talking about during the, yeah, this morning, they're an excellent example of this because they have a podcast where they get together and they interview bands,
other musicians.
That's this family with, like, eight kids and There is a lot of them. I don't want family. Yeah. I'm I'm not gonna attempt to name the number on air. Alright.

(54:21):
Because I don't wanna get it wrong.
It's the whole Walton situation. Yes. Indubitably.
And they, you know, they get together and they they talk about their music and they release an episode
week to week. Mhmm. And I think they're doing a really phenomenal job of just kind of locking in
a new method of just approaching music and

(54:41):
engaging with it with real people.
Mhmm. That was you said something was like, wow. These are real people in this community.
Yeah. I have said that. That was one of the first things that I said to people, Servo, I think it was, talking to because I met them all through the, Nick the rat podcast, sir. Spencer, he he was there that first night. It's like, wow. There's, like, actual people behind these names. I I just always thought this stuff was made up on YouTube. Yeah. You you you guys are so your whole ecosystem

(55:07):
really reminds me of them, ungovernable misfits
family with the Meshedale, the Plaid Miner Group, all the Sovereign Bitcoiner people, the privacy guys. We're all, like, you know, different. If you understand the the Meshedale concept, I'll I'll I'll explain it quickly. I mean, everybody listens to Ungovernable Misfits already knows about it, but,
it was created by our our friend friend, SolEx, and his son, SolEx Boy, came up with the Meshedale concept. And this was during a time in Bitcoin where everybody was talking about they're gonna build a citadel when they get rich, build a moat around it. And Solix and Solix, boy, kinda game theory this almost silly

(55:41):
thought that you're just going to be an island,
unto yourself,
as John Don wrote, that you really need a whole mesh network of people with different nodes, with different skill sets, with different geographic locations, and that was the birth of the Meshedale.
And then what the Meshedale has become now is people those same things, those same different nodes distributed
all throughout all kinds of different means of communications. It isn't just a Telegram group. It isn't just a signal group. It's our it's our phone call. Our meetup culture, our real IRL friend meetup culture. And I'll invite you right now to Lake Satoshi, August Second Of This Year in Lansingburg, Michigan. It's not, too far away from you. And it's a it's a big outside event, lakesitoshi.com,

(56:22):
for everybody to get together, and that has become sort of a mesh to Dell meetup. The whole Michigan meetup scene, which is a really robust Bitcoin meetup scene, has become different nodes of the mesh to Dell. We have the node runners in The Netherlands. They've become different nodes of the mesh to Dell. And everybody is kind of this ungovernable misfits, mesh to Dell, pleb miner family, and and we just keep, you know, growing different nodes of of this mesh network. And you guys are very much the same. So many parallels between our two communities. I'm glad we're talking. I I wish you could see the expression of my lips and the head nods that I'm doing as I'm looking at this website right now for, Lake Satoshi. Oh, yeah. Lake Satoshi is the best.

(57:00):
Yes. This is very compelling.
I'm I'm going to look into this. Yeah. Please come. I mean, it's it's a family event for sure. So I I bring my daughters, and my daughters are probably in pictures there. I don't wanna dox them. Let me just check out what Lake Satoshi
I don't know what pictures are up on the website now. You know, one one of the the videos from last year, my daughter my daughter took the video. It's just very, very fam we're not even from Michigan. We're from Pittsburgh.

(57:25):
You know? But this this just Pittsburgh. Draws everybody in. Oh, George Romero. One of these super new oh, yeah. Sure.
And, George Romero and,
oh, jeez. Sex Machine. What's his name?
Lavish?
Oh, come on. James Brown? No. No. No. No. In in,

(57:48):
JFK?
That Quentin Tarantino. Shut up. The Quentin Tarantino movie,
dusk till dawn.
Oh, Tom Savini. Tom Savini. Yes. Tom Savini with, I was a. King's used to hang out with Tom Savini's daughter.
She was dating a friend of mine, James. We used to have these big parties in Pittsburgh and in Polish Hill, And he did not like his daughter hanging out with with our buddy James, and rightfully so. I'm pretty sure James is in prison right now. I I have absolutely no idea this was many years ago. And so,

(58:21):
we we owned a three story apartment building and, like, I lived on the Top Floor and my cousin lived on the Second Floor, and those two floors would just be wild parties.
And,
one time, Tom Savini's daughter was partying with us, and Tom Savini come, just walks right in, walks up three flight of stairs and walks in. It's like, where's my daughter? And everybody's like, sex machines.

(58:42):
Sex machines here.
He said, drunk idiot.
Yes. Pittsburgh is is a
very,
horror effects. Yeah. Yeah. I I've had the pleasure of touring through there a couple of times. It's, it's cool town. Some cool shops and stuff. Yeah.
Our music scene isn't isn't great here, but but it was, and and it could be again.

(59:05):
There's a there's a lot of great live music venues here. That is oddly enough for working in concerts and stuff all the time. I don't really get a chance to go see much live music outside of the gigs that I work.
Yeah. Is it like the the carpenter's house never gets built kinda thing?
But we're gonna change that this year.
I tell you what. With what? Boo Berry with what?

(59:30):
Satellite spotlight, 05/10/2025,
'6 o'clock PM. How do I tune in?
You can check it out in a nude podcast app found over at nudepodcastapps.com.
We'll be streaming live video, Oddverse,
fountain,
CurioCaster.
I did send you a very important link, the split kit Yeah. Forward slash live forward slash string of characters forward slash video. Video. Mhmm. That is going to be our live page that people can come and hang out in the chat. And if you click the icons down at the bottom, you can send boost to those bands specifically or click the center image, and you could boost all the crew. We'll have a scoreboard up there,

(01:00:12):
and video will be playing there in the center. This is what you said to me this last night. This is very Myspace
type of construction here with split kit. Mhmm. And I can verify just looking at this as the this this is going to get much more complex as time goes on, whether things are gonna be added to the screen. Oh, yeah. And, like, there's a lot of theming left over from when we were in space.

(01:00:34):
Polar embrace was our first show of this year. The January
took place on
Enceladus,
which is the sixth moon of sat Saturn, but I haven't had a chance to unpack all of the, like, super spacey
space windows yet. Okay. It's gonna be way more artful. We're going artsy for this one. Right now, you have four bands. Is is that is that the final set list? The Trusted? Inviting more people in. No. This will be it. The Trusted, Red Arrow Highway, Mookie, and City Beach. I got a little clip from the Trusted here.

(01:01:20):
It's very kind of, like,
British
punk. Definitely.

(01:01:59):
Take us out with the trusted self destruct. How'd you beat those guys?
They were
or have been working with, Cannabis Records, which is a nostril profile. They've been,
it's headed up by Blood Tinder is very active. Bitish, I believe, is also part of the outfit. Those are nostril cats.

(01:02:20):
And They're very weed weed centric names.
Absolutely.
I had they had a caught polar embrace,
I think, and really liked the show. And I sent out a message to Bud Tender, and, we ended up booking two of the bands through them. The Trusted and Mookie are cannabis records,

(01:02:41):
outfits. So they'll be featured in the splits for the Trusted and Mookie, which is stuff they got set up, outside of us. So we just kind of respect what they had agreed upon. Mhmm. The way I was kinda looking at it is, I guess, it's like,
if they had multiple members of the bands, you know, because you can split this as many ways as you want. Yeah. You don't have to put this anywhere if you don't want to. It doesn't matter to me in terms of these particular

(01:03:06):
images and whatnot. But just to kinda give you a
I'm gonna send these in order to Jordan, and he's gonna figure this out. If you want to
take a look at them,
it is
a zip folder and I screenshotted all of the splits.
Okay. For the show, for all the like live chapters, you can just kind of see all of the production

(01:03:29):
people behind it. Wow. Versus the bands Yeah. Versus the boost babes versus the narrator type we're not doing. So you you sent me a page of this. Alright. So some of these people that are are part of your ecosystem
in a producer
role, in a dev role,
and then some of these are the bands themselves. Mhmm. Or artists, you know, like,

(01:03:50):
illustrative artists or we've got poets. We've got dancers this time.
You're open to all forms of time, talent, and treasure. Amen. You get it. They throw it at you. You'll take it and figure a way to to implement it into your shows. No floor, New Zealand. I like that. Mhmm. So this,
the trusted
came with Mookie that was like a two for one deal. The budtender wanted to get both bands going. Yeah. We were discussing between three or four. That is one thing that has been very difficult

(01:04:22):
in terms of trying to produce these concerts. So there's been three of them. The satellite skirmish, which was June of last year,
the satellite skirmish autumn rust. It's like Pokemon. You gotta catch them all. We that one was in fall with,
day glow themed colors and more spooky
I used to like a band called Dayglow Abortions. Oh, yeah. You know them? Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do.

(01:04:47):
It's like Pokemon.
And,
yeah, that was, really, like, neon orange and yellows and pinks, and,
we had six new bands for that one, four new MCs, a new,
boost babes. So we just, like, overhauled it, and it was Mhmm.
That show still
stands out very concisely

(01:05:08):
as one of the favorite, my most favorite cherished things I've been able to be a part of. Just the way it came together, the way it looked and sounded, and just the the theming as a whole. And
I really, like,
took time to figure out boost alerts with Eric. So all of the laser type
animations, we all did that. It it's it just

(01:05:29):
it looked so good. You had such great success on that Autumn Rust show. Does that in kind of, set the bar
high that you feel you have to jump over it for the next satellite skirmish?
What is the next one called? Spring?
The polar embrace was the one that, was in January. That one was more difficult
because a lot of my time got sucked into trying to find bands because we Yeah. It was

(01:05:54):
I think this the set list or the the acts changed
three times over,
or three of them dropped out. So we had to I mean, this is the light this is the life of a booking agent. Yep. Which
this one of a thousand hats that you're wearing in all of this. And then it comes with getting their music uploaded if they weren't set up beforehand, building them a feed, getting them a wallet,

(01:06:17):
put them in into all the splits, getting the artwork ready, making sure they got the information needed to stream and just yeah.
It was
a a bad time of year too because it's January. So post holidays,
I traveled from the miniocalypse
to visit back home,
on the East Coast.
Cold as fuck in Minnesota.

(01:06:37):
Yeah. There is that. Also wraps the
boostergram ball live,
or boostergram ball, which was Adam's show, Adam Curry's music show.
They did a live concert, and they hit me up to get some of the boost. And they they keep calling it gamification,
but I I never That sounds gay. You actually

(01:06:58):
described it in a way that I had never thought of last night, and I really loved it. It was like, you called it an instrument onto its own. Yeah. Yeah.
I love that. Well, that you know, we the stage crew is often overlooked in all productions.
So the the like, this is this is your chance to take, like, the roadie ethos

(01:07:20):
and really it's almost like the roadie is the feature here. All the tools
at the roadie's disposable, this the the the stage crew's disposal
is now at the audience's disposal. It's like it's almost like you get to be the road crew. You are making me blush right now.
You don't have a soundboard effect for that?

(01:07:42):
Splooge sound effect.
Oh, god. Yeah. You know what? Here we go. Put the cream
rise to the top. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, brother.
Want a little excitement?
This will be the fourth skirmish,

(01:08:03):
going more for a showcase vibe, trying to take more of the edge out. There's people that have families that are involved with us, and I want
to make something that they can, like, really sit down and enjoy Oh, that's great. That doesn't have that sort of,
rawness
that we can produce a lot of times very easily.

(01:08:26):
The way that this is set up so far with split kit, and you showed me another split kit from a different event where it had all the the SAT scores.
You know, I think Chad Farrell was at the top of the list, of course. You just had a number of these different, as you described it last night in our conversation, these, like, Myspace
type windows.
So I'm really looking forward to seeing what this is going to look like once it's all said and done. Very storybook themes.

(01:08:51):
Think like,
Chronicles of Narnia, Watercolor.
I straight up told Frankie Payne. I was like, man, this time, I wanna approach this like we're taking it seriously. Uh-huh.
And, like, do something with some, like, just a different flavor all around, so no more laser neon type stuff. Everything is more watercolor

(01:09:13):
storybook.
In a lot of ways, like, I I feel there's a certain sort of swan song vibe to this because
I've been making all of the show art for BTS and other shows using after effects for a while now. And through that process,
really just kind of ex started exploring tutorials and stuff and would always do these kinda like that's how the neon boost came about for satellite skirmishes is that I would make those effects for show art for us and other shows. So it was just like a combination of bringing all of these little tricks

(01:09:49):
from over the past couple of years and putting them all together into one show, plus some new stuff that I've never got to try before. Well, that's what I was kinda getting at before. You know, you you've done these three shows, and some of them have gone really, really well. And I'm sure some were more kind of clunky because you were just starting in this. Is this going to be a next level? Do you feel intimidated by trying to up your game from what you did before? Are you gonna incorporate a lot of the things you learn and tools that you had in in past productions into this one or, like, reinvent the wheel every time you go at this? Is there a lot of questions in one?

(01:10:26):
I am really, the only thing that gets
intimidating at any point is just the workload and actually getting the stuff across the the finish
line. As far as I'm concerned, if I wanna produce something out there, I wanna make sure that it's like a like a real finalized product. Like, it's got a like a very definitive beginning and end, you know,

(01:10:48):
sign of approval,
seal of stamp, whatever you wanna call it.
So it it's just, like,
I don't find that intimidating. It's just the the, like, work life balance
that is more challenging at times. And that's that's,
one reason why I've
been had to discuss it with a,

(01:11:09):
couple people. I was just like, you know what? This is
going forward
two shows a year.
That's more than manageable. We did. I don't know how many
last year plus built a two foot by three foot boostable LED neon sign, set up a boostable disco ball in Spencer's basement. I mean, there was a lot of work put in there, and

(01:11:30):
that's time to take a breath.
Yeah.
And we're gonna just work more on, like, internal
infrastructure,
both for the show,
emotionally,
that sort of stuff. And then I made this joke last night, but it it just kept cracking me up. My face when you already did one concert, and then the next one comes up 05/10/2025.

(01:11:54):
Check it out. Satellite spotlight,
sprouting symphonies.
I've never liked this. Constant
marketing.
Bring out the worst in you.
I am this is so hard you playing that Orrant song every ten seconds because I just wanted to scream cheese my cherry pie and then sing the rest of the song. Oh. It's very difficult. You you're you're leading a horse to water and I'm very thirsty. I'm leading Yeah. A very thirsty horse

(01:12:28):
to the Cherry Pie Lake.
Hop in.
Cherry Pie Lake is open.
Moving from Warrant to Mookie. I'm end up playing all of these fucking clips from these bands that you have for the satellite spotlight, sprouting of symphonies. Mhmm. May 10. May tenth. '6 PM. Here's some of what you'll hear.

(01:13:33):
Dirty.
See, that's that's good for me to listen to because it isn't normally a a song that I would go out of my way to listen to. Doesn't make you wanna pull your old lady in nice and tight?
Oh my number. She's sick right now, so no. Oh, get away from me. Stay away, sickie. Women minus minus.

(01:13:53):
Gross.
But these are that's I would never I would never listen to that. You know, just seeing the video. Now listen. So I'm almost 50 years old. When you watch this video, this is what I just rip everything off YouTube and put it at you're gonna you just think all my workflow is stupid. Rip it off of YouTube, send it to my Mac, take the video off, put it in GarageBand,

(01:14:15):
clip it to this length, and then fade it out,
And I'm done thirty seconds. Have you ever about as efficient as I can get. Have you ever tried a command line tool on Windows called No. Y t dash del t?
I'm done listening to you. I don't wanna talk about No command line tool. All you gotta do is just open your little window and type y t dash d l p and paste your link in and hit enter, and then the video just shows up in your downloads folder.

(01:14:43):
It's a good time.
You'd like a good time. Right? I I think so. I I've always thought I did.
Mhmm.
Do you watch
cherry pie? Cool drink of water. Alright. I'll find a new one. I'll find a new one. It's good. I got lots of them. I got lots of them. You can't. No. You can't change it now. We're almost done with this show. You have to go pivot now.

(01:15:04):
That's all I know how to do is pivot. Get the fuck out of
here. Woah.
Some after effects on it.
Heavy reverb plus plus.
The women minus minus, some heavy reverb plus plus. You'd fit right in at zero node. I'm getting my priorities straight.

(01:15:28):
Yeah. It's,
satellite spotlights. I was counting it up last night. There's 22 splits between the bands That's nice. That's great.
Between the boost babes, the narrator character,
the artist,
the dancers, the poets. There's some analog tapes gonna be played in the mix.
Is that that bit punk going to be doing that? Okay. He'll be playing our narrator character, which is a departure from the MCs. This is like a real,

(01:15:54):
devised theater sort of intent
with this show. Production value. Hey, man. I'm not even I would you know, I was gonna say, what would you compare this to? Well, nothing. Nobody's done this. You know, these weirdos together with all these different tools. All these people that peaked in high school, these nerds streaming from their basements. You said that the other you said that to me last night. The peak of high school. Why does somebody say that about themselves? It's terrible.

(01:16:19):
I only I only get the best inspiration.
It can't be true.
What was this guy like in high school then? Homeschooled.
That's right. You told me that.
Let's see why you peeked then. Even worse.
You weren't held back by the bad kids. Oh, yeah. I was a singular bad kid.
Was my own best friend. And own worst enemy.

(01:16:41):
You were like a mog. Oh. Half man, half dog. You're your own best friend. I went Final Fantasy Mogul,
different route, but I'll take that. Oh, I was I was going to Mel Brooks route. Oh, okay. I only played Final Fantasy one. Oh. So Old school. Now you can kinda get an idea Yeah. The whole time. Next band that's gonna be on satellite skirmish,
May 10, we have City Beach.

(01:17:18):
Out of the three bands and the songs that I picked, this is my life course.
I think this is the vibe I'm in right now. The five. People like to say that.
I'm just trying to fit in. This song changed my life, man.
It's what I do.
I need more changes.

(01:17:39):
This is a longer clip because I liked so much of this the beginning of the song.
Everybody's just gonna have it. I'll shut

(01:18:06):
How do we lie to each other and say
I want you every day?
Oh,
how do you fall for another
and keep
all it in the same?

(01:18:34):
It was animosity by City Beach. Mhmm.
You said on on that, that Mookie song, something about pulling your lady in closer, and I I couldn't relate. Like, to me, that that didn't make me think about my wife, you know, at all. Like, maybe it would it made me think about
a high school girlfriend or something like that. But this animosity City Beach song from City Beach did made me think of my wife. I think it's maybe that stage in relationship to how the song affects you. Yeah. This is one of the,

(01:19:02):
so is it oh,
I think it's
Ed Dorfel.
There's a ton of them. Sir TJ, the raffle, was one of the guys that really kind of spurred
the Dorfels as a family into
RSS podcasting two point o. Mhmm. And, they have an album or,
a series of like singles and then a main feed that they release all of their new tracks into

(01:19:27):
the door falls d o e r f e l s. We've got a lot of stuff over there on EllenBeats.com.
A lot of friends, projects,
family bluegrass music that they played That's cool. You know, all growing up, all played music, a big family band. City Beach is one of the bands associated with them.
And

(01:19:47):
if you go to Ellenbeats.com
and you
hit the search button and you scroll all the way down,
ignore all of the, like, playlists at the very bottom. But if you start with, let's just say,
actually, Abel Kirby. Abel Kirby is a perfect example. Abel Kirby, I'm a little remiss because I haven't talked with him in a hot minute, but this guy is the guy that worked with the other guy that is sir Spencer Wolf of Kansas City, and they did the Stay a While album, which is, just a couple of albums over. And this was the first album recorded specifically

(01:20:22):
with podcasting two point o features in mind. Oh, wow. What is it again? Stay a While from Abel and the Wolf. Hugely important in my life and a lot of others just across the board. This was Spencer? Mhmm. Spencer and Abel Kirby. You know Spencer. He's in the mech de dome. He's a mech de delion. They booked me to do album art

(01:20:43):
for the, like, wine track, and then
Abel Kirby needed some, like, banshee whales. So I did a little,
audio work on some screen mails that people sent in to us, and he put those in the willow I I I thought you said banshee whales. Yeah. Banshee whales. Like, okay.
Oh, alright. I was like, like, the cranberries had a lot of banshee whales. That would make sense. Those are songs. Yes. That's very high. Of course, you would need to hit the DMU button to hide all of these wave like feeds that just kind of absolutely inundate Ellen Beats

(01:21:19):
and other podcast feeds. But if you hit the DMU button and then scroll all the way down to the bottom, you'll see stay a while, some Robert Wiley,
Christian Lunenburg, Jake Hilder,
Joe Martin. These are all very early guys. And then City Beach is right there with,
self titled EP
nostalgic. There's sir, TJ, the raffle, beware of banjo. And the next band up is $2 holler. That's my old co host. He still joins us, Malachi. He's been on the skirmish two times over

(01:21:49):
with two Dollar Hollow, and then he played solo on Polar Embrace, and he's gonna be joining us as one of the boost babes with Spencer
on the satellite spotlight, May 5. Oh, we May 10. Is that, bro? 05/10/2025.
So as I'm scrolling down here on the top 100 of Ellen beats. And so if I see my friend Jimmy bullet train, and then it says polar embrace, that was at that event. Mhmm. Then you broke it up like that. So polar embrace is basically the album

(01:22:17):
for that artist and song title. That is the that works? That is the track from the album polar embrace.
Yes. Yeah. And then what I tried to say. And then the the actual title, I have to put because I don't have, like, a third header to put. To you know what I'm saying? So the name of the man satellite skirmish. Yeah. Not hard to figure out. It gets a little convoluted at times. Can I search bipolar embrace?

(01:22:42):
Yeah. And so can I search by these other names? Yeah. Yes. I can. Autumn rust right there. And I searched by Autumn Rust. Alright. So this this is great because a lot of people in our audience are old and stupid like me. Like I was talking to you yesterday, this is so fucking intimidating. I don't even know what your website is. Alright. So so when I go to,
well, jeez, I forgot it already. What's the what's the name of your your normal show? Behind the schemes. Behind the schemes with the threes.

(01:23:09):
Instead of e's, it's got threes.
I was like, okay. Well, I could figure that out behind the schemes. Then it's this Jimmy Page Zoso
thing.
What is that? That's a It's Lavish's Substack. Okay. But then your shows are in that too. Now I'm really confused. What do I go to podcast guru and this is how I listen to? Do I have to go to Adam Curry's
feed and wait for them to come on to that feed? When can I just tune in to what they've already recorded? I became very overwhelmed

(01:23:35):
because that's kind of what happens to me, like, when I get all these things going on in my life, and I get three sick kids and a sick wife, and then then I then I, like, lose it. Oh, lost the plot. But seeing this on Ellen Beats and going, okay. Well, when I'm at work, when I'm on my time, and I want to listen to some music, and I'm sick of listening to the same shit that I've listened to for the past forty fucking years, I can go to Ellen Beats. I can search Autumn Rust. I can search a satellite skirmish.

(01:24:02):
I can now listen to these as an album and get exposed to new music.
Ganay.
That ain't no coin. That's the one up. Mhmm. Taste it. Mhmm. Taste it. Yeah. Girl one up.
Yeah. Ellen Beats is my daily driver for music.
And you and you don't like Wave Lake as as much?
You know, when we were doing You don't have to go on, but I'm just saying I I got that I got that that feeling.

(01:24:25):
Like, to l n beats to Wave lake is like podcast guru to fountain.
This is almost the feeling I'm getting from you. My DMU button stays permanently latched on for l n beats because, you know,
there is good music. I will never fault that. There's good
people. I will never fault that. Do I, as a person, have to interact with them as a service?

(01:24:49):
No. That's kind of where that buck start,
starts and stops.
Got it. And, you know, it's
it's,
actually, Lavish
said something to me the other day,
and it kind of plays into something that you had said about bouncing earlier that I I really resonated with it. And it's we all have the same goals but with very different motives. True.

(01:25:16):
You should leave that pause in there, Max. That was a good one.
Thought there was more comment. No. That was that was that.
The show is your stage, my friend. Yeah. Perform how you like. Could you taste the drama there? I did. Yeah. Sure. It tasted like cherry pie, believe it or not. Oh, yeah. I was on a different board. I wasn't prepared. Oh, god. I knew it tasted like cherry pie, believe it or not.

(01:25:44):
Before we close out the show, we've got one more band that's going to be on your, satellite skirmish, Something about spring.
Sprouting symphonies. Remember. Spotlight,
One more time. Satellite spotlight,
But when is it? May.
Oh, you see, you almost got me there. 05/10/2025,

(01:26:07):
'6 PM. Should I do it with a little reverb this time? Yes. And please throw in the time zone.
Central time.
The
satellite spotlight,
05/10/2025.
Come get some.
Lightislit.com.

(01:26:28):
Check it out in that new podcast
tab. Blueberry, I'm scared. Stop it.
Max is gonna freak out.
Oh, mate. I can't believe I have to fucking edit this. You're never hosting this again.

(01:26:49):
Oh, but what fun we had, though. We did have fun. Last band, the Red Arrow Highway.
You said the song means something to you. Yeah. So you know this band personally and and why. It's just, there's a lot
of movie magic moments
that have been popping up as of late,
very transitional, and just you know? It's nice to have this,

(01:27:12):
repertoire of music to grow into.
Yeah.
Well,
thanks, Pooberry.
Thank you. I think if anybody needs to remember
when and what is happening,
all they gotta do is hit the rewind button,
and Jordan is probably gonna put a big display on our podcasting two point o to say the date. Maybe you can send them a little a little square that has all that information on it,

(01:27:37):
and they can listen to this awesome reverb that is probably blowing out Max's ears.
Well, you know, production value plus plus.
There's lots of double pluses and a lot of double minuses.
Well, overall, you were you were definitely
a double plus, and I'm glad this is this is gonna hopefully pull some of the ungoverned misfits people

(01:28:03):
and everybody in in your sphere with,
with Spencer and pit punk and and you and lavish and and all of these live music people and those that have taken podcasting two point o to a whole another level,
pulling these families in together. Hey, man. And you're a big old double plus plus, too. Woah. I know. I said it. I said it.

(01:28:25):
I really appreciate you just,
taking the time to to set this up. And thank you to both Jordan and Spencer
for putting us in contact with one another. They're the ones that did this. This is their fault. Sounds a bitch. Yeah. Let Max get mad at them, not you. This isn't your fault. Okay. You just hit the record button. That's all I did. Yeah. You know? Not much to do it. I I also I also loaded up Red Arrow

(01:28:51):
Highway leaving Chicago.
Thanks, Boober. I appreciate you having you on. Thank you.
Got about me
before she got through Ohio.
She's still scared of
airports. To be there tomorrow. It's good.
You know, we didn't get the best of the last night for, our phone conversation.

(01:29:11):
I get up at, like, five something in the morning, have
these fucking kids.
Tires miserable. Sleep. Dad
vibes
instead of the hang on a night who's trying to leave it to Chicago. Opposite. Usually, we show it's late, late, late, and then
Feeling

(01:29:57):
I like the way the rain sounds on these shingles. Like the way the sun shines through these windows. I like the view from what I've got.
I'm freezing time here. I'm breaking the clocks. If wind is just air filling up a vacuum,
then I will not move. No, I'll be a statue.

(01:30:18):
You can change the house while you're stuck with the view.
I like this one.

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