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July 14, 2025 48 mins

After dancing in his car for 90 days straight, Kade Peterson went viral and met T-Pain — but the real transformation happened before that.

In this episode, we explore how getting uncomfortable on purpose rewired Kade’s brain and helped him build a happier, more purpose-driven life. He rebuilt his discipline, learned to trust himself again, and started making bold, consistent moves that continue to shape his success.

For the builders, dreamers, and doers who want to go all in — this conversation will light a fire under you.

We talk about:

  • Self-discipline and discomfort
  • Content creation and momentum
  • Motivation vs. consistency
  • The power of doing hard things — even when you don’t feel ready

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(01:00:00):
Wait, K, do you actually
think you're gonna meet T-Pain?
(Kirk laughs)
I dance in my car
every day to Jason Derulo
until I got him to comment.
Then I did another series to Chris Brown
and got him to post on his story.
I'm gonna dance every day
to T-Pain until I meet him.
Like, achieving that goal showed people
that whatever it is
that they wanna achieve,
no matter how big or how scary,

(01:00:22):
it is possible if you stay consistent.
It kind of gives people
permission to believe again
in themselves or what they wanna pursue
and gives them the proof.
You know, if they join
me, if they judge me,
if they hate me, if they
like me, whatever it is,
I'm gonna keep being me.
And that's like the
message I'm trying to share.
As you continue to do those things,
you learn to trust yourself,
trust God, trust the process

(01:00:42):
that just gets strengthened.
I love talking about trust
because I think it's a
trait that everyone desires.
But something I don't feel
like is talked about enough is...
(upbeat music)
(upbeat music)
Hey y'all, welcome back to Upbeat.

(01:01:03):
Appreciate you being here listening.
I am so excited for this
episode with Cade Peterson, man.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fantastic, man.
Excited to be here.
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, we're thrilled that you're here.
And hey, I was checking
out your Instagram stories
right before we jumped on this call.
You've had some pretty
exciting things, man,

(01:01:23):
meeting up with T-Pain, it looks like.
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Even hearing you say that is like,
I'm still in disbelief of it
even though it just happened.
But yeah, we can dive
deeper into that during this.
Yeah, I mean, you put in the work.
It looks like you did the
jamming out to T-Pain in your car
for what, like 80 plus

(01:01:44):
days or something like that?
Yeah, so did a series where
I danced in my car every day
to T-Pain until I met him.
And it was just under 90 days until I
finally met the man.
Yeah, we could definitely get into that.
But first, before we get
kind of into the weeds,
I want to introduce you to the listeners
and make sure they're
caught up on who you are.

(01:02:06):
So if you don't mind
doing a quick rundown
of what it is you do.
And I mean, you could talk
about the 30-day challenge.
You could talk about
your Amazon business,
whatever you'd want to touch on.
Yeah, so Kate Peterson, I'm from Utah.
Most people know me as
the guy who does random,
sometimes stupid things to
get out of his comfort zone.

(01:02:27):
So about three years ago,
started this journey of doing things
to intentionally make
myself uncomfortable,
whether it's
physically, emotionally, mentally,
to become the best version of myself.
What I've learned is there's no growth
that happens inside the comfort zone.
So I've just really tried to
live outside that comfort zone.
And the change that
has happened in my life,

(01:02:49):
I'm a completely new person from it.
And I've documented this
journey on social media,
trying to inspire and help
other people to do the same,
overcome their fears,
and become the best
version of themselves.
Powerful, powerful message.
I can't wait to get deeper into it.
But before we get there,
I also want to kind of understand
what little Kate was like, man.

(01:03:09):
Like what were you
like growing up as a kid
and maybe what kind of
nudged you in this direction?
Yeah, so growing up,
I'm very creative minded
and I like to do things not normally.
So whatever it was,
whether it's school, work, play,
whatever it was, I like
to make life interesting

(01:03:30):
by doing things out of the ordinary.
And as a kid, it was kind
of just a for fun thing.
And then as I've gotten older,
I've actually seen like a power in that
and living life in a unique way,
living life out of the
ordinary, normalizing,
not being normal.
And yeah, so growing up,
just something that my dad
instilled in me at a young age

(01:03:50):
is if you're not having
fun, you're not doing it right.
And I think that applies to
every aspect of your life.
And so just try to
live life to the fullest.
But I would say somewhere
along the way of growing up,
I developed these fears
and things that held me back.
So for example, as a
kid, I loved dancing.
It was a huge passion of mine.
It brought so much joy to me.

(01:04:10):
But then somewhere along growing up,
I feel like it was in high school,
the age where people start caring
about other people's opinions
and you start behaving in a certain way
to please people.
I developed this fear of
other people would think of me
and I came to the realization that
if I want to achieve
this goal in my life,

(01:04:31):
I need to overcome that fear.
And that was kind of what
pushed me into the direction
of doing things intentionally
to get out of my comfort zone
to overcome those fears.
Absolutely love that.
So it's kind of baked
into your DNA a little bit.
And then growing up and having a father
who kind of instilled some inspiration

(01:04:53):
that pushed you this direction,
was there like a moment
where everything pivoted for you
or where you're just like,
okay, I'm gonna take this like super
freaking seriously now?
Yeah, 1000%.
So it was about three years ago
that I was in a stage of life
where I felt like I could be doing more.
I was actually from like

(01:05:15):
outsider's perspective,
it would look like I was doing good
but I just always feel like
we can always be doing better.
And I actually went to a
seminar by the Iron Cowboy
and for those who don't know,
he's a guy who insane
like ultra endurance athlete.
He ran, well not ran,
he did a hundred

(01:05:35):
Ironmans in a hundred days,
I think one of the most
impressive human feats
in the history of endurance sports.
And in the seminar,
he asked the question to the audience,
when was the last time
you intentionally made
yourself uncomfortable?
Now I was in a stage
where I was like trying
to improve myself like
reading self-help books,
making goals,
but that was the moment
when he asked that question,

(01:05:56):
it was like, I was like, whoa,
why would I intentionally
make myself comfortable?
Like the goal of financial freedom
and time freedom is to live comfortable.
But then as he kept speaking,
I realized if you want to
live a hard life, make it easy.
If you want to live an
easy life, make it hard.
And so I was like, man,
all of the things that

(01:06:16):
make me uncomfortable,
I'm avoiding those things.
And that's what's holding me back from
like becoming better.
So I went home that night,
started writing down all my fears,
all the things that
made me uncomfortable.
And that's when the
uncomfortable 30 was born,
where I did one thing
every day for 30 days
to get out of my comfort zone
and stepped out of my
comfort zone three years ago
and basically haven't looked back since.

(01:06:39):
Amazing, man, there's so
many directions to go with that.
I mean, number one,
it reminded me of a guest
I had on the show years ago
where we talked about neuroplasticity
and like rewiring the brain.
I love that concept.
And that's what you're doing
is like rewiring these
neuropathways in your brain

(01:07:00):
and like the way that
you think and do things,
which already in the
last three years, I bet,
you've noticed huge differences.
But the second thing that came to mind
was that it's outside,
it's bigger than you.
Like I know we're here to
share your story and stuff,
but like what you're
doing is creating a movement
for other people and inspiring them
to go outside of their comfort zone.

(01:07:22):
And the 30-day challenge that you did,
I mean, that's, I'm sure
other people have done 30 days
or three or a week or
whatever it is for them.
But have you seen that kind of,
what's the word, reception to that,
a good reception to what you're doing?
Yeah, when I first
started, it was originally,
I was just gonna do it
like by myself, for myself.

(01:07:43):
And my brother was like,
"Dude, you should
document this on social media.
Like I think this is a really cool thing
that you're trying to do."
And I was like, "You know what?
Like that would hold me accountable."
And also I do think that
there are a lot of people
that could benefit from seeing this.
Like, I don't know
where this is gonna take me,
but let's do it.
So start documenting it.
And yeah, one of the biggest
reasons why I do social media

(01:08:04):
is truly because it is bigger than me.
Like the T-Pain thing that we'll dive
into here in a second,
all of these goals, all
these things that I'm doing,
I can't do them without the
people who are supporting me.
And also the amount of
people who see what I'm doing
and are like, "You know what?
Like I'm gonna get

(01:08:25):
out of my comfort zone.
I'm gonna go do what makes me scared."
And then they message me and say,
"Hey, I did this, this happened."
That is like, that brings
the most fulfillment to me
of everything that I do,
nothing brings me more
joy than seeing other people
doing the thing that
they fear and overcoming it.
It's awesome.
That is awesome.
So how is that linked

(01:08:46):
to the T-Pain thing?
Because somewhere in there
that triggered your T-Pain story.
So I'm wondering what's linking it.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
I was kind of all over the place there.
So with the T-Pain thing, obviously,
so I'll give you some
backstory for the listeners
to understand what we're talking about
when we keep bringing up T-Pain.
One of my challenges during these 30

(01:09:08):
days, three years ago,
was to dance in my car at a stoplight.
Because I realized I love to dance.
Like my social media
used to be I wore a mask
and I used a fake name
because I was so scared of
other people would think.
And that fear would stop me
from dancing at stoplights
because I was scared
about what the other people
would think of me.

(01:09:28):
And so what I did to
overcome it is I would dance.
I would dance and if they
join me, if they judge me,
if they hate me, if they
like me, whatever it is,
I'm gonna keep being me.
And that's like the
message I'm trying to share is,
live the life that you wanna live,
not according to what
other people tell you.
So I did that in one of my challenges and
it was super freeing.
I remember after, I was

(01:09:49):
so scared for some reason,
like why be scared of
someone's invalid opinion of you?
But it's a real thing.
I think everyone shares that fear.
And I did it and I was
like, wow, that felt great.
And it did well on social
media and people were like,
oh, I do this too.
Oh, I gotta stop worrying
about what other people think.
And so I did a series

(01:10:09):
right after that where I danced
in my car every day to
Jason Derulo until I got him
to comment.
And it was kind of a fun
series because I was so scared
and like developing
confidence, overcoming fears.
It's like a muscle.
The more you do it, the stronger it gets.
And if you don't use it, you lose it.
So like doing these
things over and over again,

(01:10:29):
I was developing more confidence of like,
man, it really doesn't
matter what people think.
Like I'm gonna live
the life I wanna live.
And it was like super empowering.
And then on like day 36, he commented,
you're just watching a bunch of your
videos, big vibes, bro.
And that was like everything to me.
Two years ago, I was so stoked.
I just got Jason Derulo to notice me.
And then it helped me realize like what

(01:10:50):
more I'm capable of.
Like, wow, I don't care what
people think as much anymore.
Like this is really cool.
So then I did another
series to Chris Brown
and got him to post on his story.
And that was like, whoa,
like next level, Chris Brown,
got him to post on his story.
And then about eight
months ago, I was like, okay,
what like, I think I could go bigger

(01:11:11):
and I could meet someone.
And T-Pain came to my mind.
And then for about three months,
I couldn't get it off my mind.
I was super scared.
Cause like, I didn't
know if I could meet him.
Like I just, I'm a normal person.
And who knows if he cares to meet me,
but I was like, you know
what, I'm gonna go for it.
I'm gonna dance every day to T-Pain
until I meet him.

(01:11:31):
And so then I have to
answer your question
of why it's bigger than just me,
is one I could not have met him
without the people who supported me.
Every single day people are in the
comments tagging him,
saying like, you got this.
It was such a cool group goal achievement
where people are checking in every day,
seeing how it's going, like
motivating me and whatnot.

(01:11:54):
And like achieving that goal,
showed people that whatever it is that
they want to achieve
no matter like how big or how scary,
it is possible if you stay consistent.
So it really was a group goal.
And it was really cool
to see all these strangers
come together for some
random goal of meeting T-Pain.
Right.
That's incredible.

(01:12:16):
And again, so many directions,
but I think one thing that I wanna
highlight or spotlight
is what you just said, just reiterating,
that it kind of gives people
permission to believe again
in themselves or what they wanna pursue
and gives them the proof
like, hey, this happened.
And because it happened for you,

(01:12:37):
it can happen for them and for me.
And that's a really
powerful message to get out there.
But another thing I
wanted to ask though is,
what is it in you that makes it
so you're not gonna give up?
Because I'm sure, I mean,
you mentioned eight months ago.
So that's a long time to,

(01:12:57):
because you met him yesterday?
It was last week, I posted about it.
Yes, it was five days ago.
Okay, yeah.
So, and at the time of this
recording, it's June 20th.
This will probably go out later July,
but maybe even into August.
Anyway, that's still a long time,
eight months to post consistently,
dancing in your car,

(01:13:17):
jamming out to T-Pain
until you meet him.
Would you have done that
forever or like how long?
What is it that you feel inside,
like in that interim
where you're not hearing
from the artist?
Yeah, that's a funny question.
Cause I did, like even
though there was a lot of support,
there were a lot of

(01:13:38):
doubters and a lot of haters,
a lot of friends and family
who would like approach me
and be like, wait, K,
do you actually think
you're gonna meet T-Pain?
And it's like, they're not telling me,
I don't think you're gonna meet T-Pain,
but like that question
shows me that they are doubting.
They don't know if I will.
They're skeptical.
And so many people would comment and say,

(01:13:58):
this is never gonna happen,
like give it up, give it up.
And it is a funny
thing, like the difference
in the people that believed in
me and the people that didn't,
but at the end of the day,
when your wife is strong enough,
and if you want something strong enough,
like you'll make it happen.
And so like, what's the secret?

(01:14:18):
How did I get that
discipline to stay consistent
despite not knowing
when it's gonna happen,
despite people doubting me?
And at the end of the
day, what I tell people is,
motivation is, it's great
and it's fun to be motivated,
but it's temporal.
Like you can be listening to this podcast

(01:14:39):
and feel super
motivated to go do something.
Like you could feel super
motivated to wake up early
in the morning and go to the gym,
but when that alarm clock goes off,
is that motivation still there?
Most likely not.
So motivation can get
you to the starting line,
but it's discipline
ultimately that will get you
to the finish line.
And so how do you develop discipline?
Like what, like I wanna
be motivated all the time,
that would be amazing, but

(01:14:59):
discipline is doing things
even when you don't feel like it.
And I feel like that's the key to success
in every aspect of
life, whether it's fitness,
like knowledge, finance,
like business relationships,
whatever it is, no
successful person has ever gotten
to where they've
gotten by only doing things
when they feel like it.
So that's the key is discipline,

(01:15:20):
doing things when you don't feel like it.
So now how do you develop discipline?
A lot of people think it's
something that you're born with,
like, oh, this person was born with that.
This, like that person's
lucky, they have discipline.
When in reality, discipline isn't
something that's given,
it's something that's learned and earned.
And the easiest way to develop discipline
is by doing things
that you don't want to do.

(01:15:41):
So going back to what we
talked about at the beginning,
the neuroplasticity and doing things out
of the comfort zone,
the more that you do
things that you don't wanna do
on a daily basis, the
easier it is to stay disciplined
on the things that you
really need to be doing.
Like if you hit snooze
every single morning,
chances are later in the day
when there's a task at hand

(01:16:01):
that you don't wanna do, it's a lot
easier to fall short
on that task because how you do one thing
is how you do everything.
So the more that you can stay consistent
in every aspect of life and do things
even when you don't want to do them,
the easier it is when you
are going after whatever goal.
Does that make sense?
It does make sense.
Absolutely, yeah,
thanks for sharing that.

(01:16:22):
That's another power
hitter and I would recommend
people rewind and retake that in
and make note of how you can
apply it in your life today.
That's a good strategy.
And it goes in with something that I
wanted to ask you about
because you're kind of
notorious for the quote
or for saying the
best time to do something
is when you least want to do it.

(01:16:44):
I've seen that you've
said that quite a bit.
Which is amazing.
So I'm curious, how do you
push through the resistance?
Because you're going to
feel like not wanting to do it.
What is that little extra thing
that gets you to do the thing?
Yeah, it's funny.

(01:17:05):
I wish there was a secret
sauce where I could be like,
"Guys, listen, when you
don't wanna do something,
"just do this and all of
a sudden you'll do it."
There's so many different strategies.
There's a book called
The Five Second Rule.
I don't know if you've ever read that.
Where it's like when the
moment you don't wanna do something.
Yeah, by Mel Robbins.
Countdown to Five Seconds and take action
right as you hit one.

(01:17:26):
David Goggins talks
about the callous mind
where the more that
you do, the hard thing,
the next time you're
doing another hard thing,
you can lean back on that and use that.
And there's so many different ways,
but at the end of the day,
you gotta figure out
what works best for you.
And I think for me, it's
just the repetitiveness
of doing hard things that

(01:17:48):
when I'm in that moment of,
"Man, I really don't wanna do this."
I know what it feels like to do it
and then come out on top and it's like,
"Okay, I know I need to do it."
Literally, anytime I
don't wanna do something,
I tell myself that
exact quote of the best time
to do something is when
you at least wanna do it.
The days when I don't wanna go work out,

(01:18:08):
whenever I feel that, I'm like,
it's kind of like a curse,
because I'm like, "Dang,
I know I need to do it."
And even if I go and do the workout
and it's the worst workout ever,
like half energy, not efficient,
like that builds you up way more
than when you feel like doing it.
It's so easy to do things

(01:18:28):
when you feel like doing it,
but when you can do things
when you don't wanna do it,
like it's just, it's
a very powerful thing.
So I wish there was like a secret sauce.
Everyone has
different methods of doing it.
I guess for me, it's
just keeping that repetition
and doing hard things.
And one thing I'll
say is I'm not perfect.
I still have so many

(01:18:49):
things that I'm working on,
and a lot of people
think that I'm immune to fear
and discomfort, it's like, no,
I'm terrified to do a lot of things
and I'm very
uncomfortable doing a lot of things,
but that's where the growth happens.
Love that.
Yeah, thank you for sharing.
And I would just say we might not have
like the secret sauce,
but I feel like we are kind of uncovering

(01:19:12):
a blueprint of sorts just
in all your answers so far,
because we've talked about belief,
holding on to hope, discipline.
And I would say in your recent answer,
momentum is coming to mind.
That's a great answer.
You're building momentum,
and it's just easier to keep going once
the ball is rolling.

(01:19:33):
And there was one
other one with momentum.
Oh, trust.
What was the last one?
Trust.
Trust.
Like building trust
with yourself gradually
as you continue to do those things,
you learn to trust yourself, trust God,
trust the process that
just gets strengthened.
Yeah.

(01:19:53):
And one thing I would add
with the whole trust thing,
and I love talking about
trust because I think it's a trait
that everyone desires.
Everyone wants to be trusted.
Everyone wants to be reputable.
And when someone,
you commit someone to do something,
you wanna follow through with them
because you want that trust.

(01:20:15):
When someone says, "Hey,
can you keep this secret?"
You wanna keep the secret
because you wanna keep that integrity
in every aspect of your life.
But something I don't feel
like is talked about enough
is the lack of trust that
we'll have in ourselves.
If we tell someone, "I'm gonna do X,"
we do it because we know the
consequence of not doing it
is losing trust.
But if we tell ourselves,

(01:20:35):
"Hey, tomorrow I'm
going to work at this time,
and then tomorrow comes
and you don't wanna do it,"
like it's so easy to be like,
"Oh, I'm just not gonna do it."
But we lose our trust with ourselves.
The person that you need
to be able to trust the most
is yourself.
Like if people can learn to do the things

(01:20:55):
that they told
themselves that they were gonna do
even when they don't want to do them,
that's where true trust is.
That's where true honesty is.
And being honest with
yourself is so important.
I'm not just talking with
commitments to yourself,
but also recognizing your weaknesses,
recognizing where you fall short,
admitting to them and working on them.

(01:21:17):
Being honest with yourself
is such a powerful thing.
Beautifully said, yeah, it is.
And the more you
build trust with yourself,
the honestly more aligned
you are, more happy you are.
I appreciate you being vulnerable too
and sharing all this and
saying that you're not perfect.
I think that's something people are

(01:21:38):
probably curious about
just because when you
go over to your TikTok,
your social media, your Instagram,
I think there's a
pressure maybe to perform
that we all feel to some level.
And people don't get to see
behind the curtain very often,
which I think is
important to go there sometimes
on the podcast.

(01:21:58):
So is there anything that you would share
that kind of lets people
see behind the curtain,
like what something is you struggle with
that's not
necessarily posted all the time?
Yeah, 1,000%.
And I appreciate you asking that question
because like you said,
social media, it's great,
but it can be very crippling.
And I think we all are

(01:22:20):
guilty of getting on social media
and seeing what people are doing
and comparing our lives to theirs.
I mean, the whole process
of starting social media
and doing what I do started from a very
crippling insecurity
of what people think of me.

(01:22:41):
And it's crazy to, like if
younger Cade four years ago
could see Cade today, he would be like,
he would be terrified of
like, what, you're doing that?
Like that's crazy.
And it's something that I
think we're all guilty of
is just caring what other people think.

(01:23:02):
Like in every way, shape and form.
And I always ask people like,
what would you do in your life
if other people's
opinions of you didn't matter?
And people will like think,
okay, like what would I do
if people's opinions didn't matter?
I follow it up and say,
well, go do that thing
because their opinions don't.
And whatever weakness,
whatever problem we have,

(01:23:24):
we can overcome it.
So like this fear of
what other people think,
I could have let that
consume me for the rest of my life
and probably lived a great life,
but by addressing it,
recognizing that it's a fear
and doing things that terrify me,
like some of the things that I've done,
I look back and I'm like, dang,
I actually can't believe I did that.

(01:23:44):
That's terrifying to think.
And it's still like
something that I try and do.
It's why I go on podcasts is to try and
just get comfortable
public speaking, like
that's a goal of mine.
I wanna be comfortable
with the uncomfortable.
And so coming on a
podcast, it can be scary,
getting questions that
you've never been asked,
but the more I do it,
the more comfortable I get.

(01:24:05):
And I mean, I could go on
and on about different things
that I'm working on and
the way I'm overcoming them
is by doing them.
What I've learned, I'm kinda just going
on a ramble tangent.
I'm passionate about this topic.
No, you're good, yeah.
But the more that you
avoid the thing that you fear,
the more control that
fear has over your life.
So if you do have like
social anxiety, for example,

(01:24:26):
the more that you
avoid social environments,
the more power that fear has over you.
But the more that you can face it,
the less power it has over you.
Love that, yeah, actually
I'm forgetting her name,
but I saw a video about
that, like from a therapist
where she talked about how
the more that you put off

(01:24:49):
or avoid those things
that kinda challenge you
or that bring you anxiety,
the smaller and
smaller your world becomes.
Whereas the more you embrace it,
and the more that you
lean into those things
and grow through facing the
challenges and adversities,
the larger and more vast your world is,

(01:25:09):
and the more you can do and
the more you're capable of
and the happier you are, all the things.
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
It is.
But it's uncomfortable.
Right, and I like that.
What's been the
discomfort in the uncomfortable?
What's been, I'm sure you
get asked this all the time.
I try to strive to ask some questions,
at least that people
have never been asked.

(01:25:30):
This one's, I'm sure
you've been asked a lot,
but what's one of the more
uncomfortable things you've done?
I'm sure you have a large list of things,
but one or two that have
been kind of too far almost.
Yeah, the first ones
that come into my head is,
there's three that
always come into my head

(01:25:50):
whenever I get asked this question.
And they're totally, the
reason why I list these three
is because they're all
unrelated, like totally separate.
First one was an hour in
the sauna, which is funny
because I had all these like Finnish
people and wrestlers
that were like, "Oh, that's not hard."
And it's like, it goes to show like,
everyone's comfort zone's different.
Like I suck in the heat
and that was miserable.

(01:26:12):
I felt like I was just gonna
pass out and I was just like,
man, it was, and I don't, also it's funny
that I don't recommend that.
Like that's almost like too much.
And a lot of my
challenges, people are like,
"Cade, how does that help you?"
But again, just goes to
the concept of the more
that you do things
that are uncomfortable,
the more comfortable
you are with discomfort.
Another one that came

(01:26:33):
into my head was FaceTiming
my ex-girlfriend that I hadn't talked to
in a year and a half
and asking her what my
strengths and weaknesses are.
Wow.
That one, like again,
just calling her was scary enough alone.
And when she answered, she
was like kind of confused

(01:26:53):
and I was just like, you
know me better than most.
And I was just wondering
if you could share with me
like a strength and a weakness.
And like, I don't got bad blood with her.
And so she was nice about it,
but like that one was
just like terrifying.
I think for most people,
you couldn't even pay
them money to do that.

(01:27:14):
(both laughing)
Yeah, what's funny is I decided
I was gonna do that one and I kept
putting it off every day
cause I just did not want to do it.
That was one that took
a while for me to do.
Another one is I did a pull-up challenge.
This is more of a physical one.
So I mean, we're going
over all the different phases.
Did a thousand pull-ups in a day.

(01:27:35):
It took me eight hours,
hands like shredded bleeding
and like just the mental
fatigue during that one.
That one was definitely the
hardest physical challenge.
But I would say the challenge
where I was the most uncomfortable,
which people are surprised when I hear
this was the one that I
was most uncomfortable.

(01:27:55):
And it goes back again to
the fear of other people think
is I got invited on a date
by this girl I'd never met.
And we went to do yoga.
And first of all, that
already alone is uncomfortable.
Being with a girl I've never met,
going to do yoga, I suck at yoga.
I suck at yoga.
That is already uncomfortable.

(01:28:16):
But just to add to it,
my roommates somehow
convinced me to show up
with a shirt and tie trench
coat, dress shoes and pants.
And I showed up to yoga
in the most opposite attire
to ever exist in a yoga studio
and met this girl and did yoga.

(01:28:37):
And it was like my heart
was racing before meeting her.
I was super scared.
But I did it.
And then I remember halfway through
just laying on that yoga floor looking up
and I'm like, wow, if I
can do this, what can't I do?
And that just goes to show the power of,
I mean, yeah, people
in the studio were like,

(01:28:57):
what the heck is he doing?
But at the end of the
day, world still goes round.
They're living their life right now.
I'm living mine.
The only difference
is I overcame something
I didn't want to do.
Love that.
Do you find that when you've,
this is what I thought
of when you mentioned
laying on your back
like in the yoga studio,
just being like, wow, like this is,

(01:29:18):
you know, if I could do this,
do you find that you feel
once you've crossed the line,
it's just not as bad as
what you were making yourself
think it was gonna be?
1000%.
Like you basically
just nailed it on the head
with a quote that I always say is,
"Being comfortable is never as bad,
nor does it last as long as your brain
makes it out to be."

(01:29:39):
And it doesn't matter in
whatever instance that is,
like to list common
fears that people have,
public speaking, heights, social
interactions, ice baths,
whatever it is, before you do that thing,
like the scariest part
of overcoming the fear
is like the 10 seconds before you do it.

(01:30:01):
Like, I don't know, have you
ever done an ice bath before?
I have not.
Okay, well this is a--
But I've jumped into like,
like really, really cold lakes and stuff.
Okay, well preface what it's like,
and for those listening
that had done an ice bath,
before doing an ice bath, it's like,
your brain is trying
to talk you out of it.
It's like, no, this is horrible.
And you're just like

(01:30:21):
psyching yourself up,
you get in, it's horrendous,
but then after like 10
seconds, you're like,
okay, like, I'm okay, I'm okay.
After 30 seconds,
you're like, okay, wait,
this isn't as bad as I thought.
And that's how it is
with everything in life.
Like, before you do it,
your brain does a crazy thing
where it comes up with
like the worst case scenarios
and tries to like do
everything to get you not to do it.

(01:30:43):
But then you finish and you're like,
oh, okay, that wasn't that bad.
Like, public speaking,
you're like so scared before,
and then you finish and you're like,
okay, that wasn't that bad, so 1000%.
Love that, yeah, you
reminded me of a previous guest
I had on a couple of years ago.
Have you ever heard of Kenyan Salo?
Kenyan what?
Salo, S-A-L-O. I haven't.

(01:31:06):
So he is a professional
parachuter, I guess, skydiver.
His job is he's one of
the guys that parachutes
into the Denver Broncos
Stadium before the game was.
But he had described to me before,
that's kind of the feeling
like when people are first,
you know, getting in the plane
and like getting ready

(01:31:27):
to jump for their skydive.
But then over time, you
know, you build a callus,
I guess, to it because he
still gets the butterflies
like every single time.
It's just not as bad,
and he knows that like
everything's gonna be fine.
Yeah, fantastic example.
Skydiving's a really funny one.
Will Smith has a quote where he says,
"The point of maximum
danger is the point of like

(01:31:49):
most enjoyment and the
least amount of fear."
Like the scariest part about skydiving
is when you're in the
plane about to jump out.
But then like when you're free falling,
you're like having fun, and
then you pull the parachute
and you're like, good.
It's the moments before
that are always the scariest.
Our brains trick us and
try and get us to avoid
doing uncomfortable things.
True, couldn't have said that better.

(01:32:10):
On this point, and then we'll
pivot into some other things
and kind of wrap up, but on this point,
I wanted to just
highlight that people are people,
we're all human.
I think that's another thing
that comes up with this topic
because no matter who
you are, celebrity or not,
jumping out the plane is
gonna feel the same, right?
We all put our pants on one leg at a time
or we all have to go to the bathroom.

(01:32:33):
There's different ways
that you've heard it said
where we're all human.
And if you are someone
public speaking and you mess up,
freaking lean into it,
and then have everybody in the audience,
half of them are gonna
wanna just fully support you
and be like, dang,
dude, that would freakin,
I feel for him.
So we are all human.

(01:32:54):
And I just wanted to spotlight that.
I think so often our
brains also put everybody else
on this huge pedestal and we make
ourselves feel garbage
when that's not the case.
Powerful, dude, could
not have phrased it better.
Like, yeah, we all have our weaknesses,

(01:33:15):
we all have our things
that make us uncomfortable.
And you see
celebrities, you see influencers,
you see people doing their thing.
And I mean, I just said it,
I do things on a daily basis
to making myself uncomfortable,
but I still get scared.
I still have fears, I
still have my anxieties.

(01:33:37):
We're all human and
we all have the things
that we can work on.
And by doing the things
that make us uncomfortable
is how we're gonna overcome them.
Right, and well, with
the celebrities you've met,
just last week being with T-Pain,
I'm sure he felt pretty
human and just normal.
Yeah, I was actually shocked that man,
he's the side note,
he is the coolest guy,

(01:33:58):
he's just way chilled down to earth.
And it was like crazy just seeing him,
his normal interactions,
like meeting his family
and like him eating food
and just talking normal.
And I'm like, wow, this is crazy.
I grew up listening to this
guy for the last like 20 years
and he's just a
normal human, he's normal.

(01:34:19):
Right, yeah, I love that.
Cool, well, I wanna
pivot here just a little bit
and make sure we don't
skip over what it is you do
for work too with Amazon and all that
and kind of what inspired
everything and then we'll wrap up.
But what is it that you do with Amazon
and maybe what advice
would you have for people
if they were to get started today

(01:34:40):
or if you were to start fresh today,
would that be something you do?
Yeah, yeah, I love this
because everything
that I just talked about
is because of my businesses.
The business that I do
is what has allowed me
to have the time freedom to do the things
that I actually enjoy.

(01:35:02):
And so I love talking about this
because people think I do
content creation full time.
Content like social
media, that's actually more
of just a side gig for
fun that I enjoy doing.
And it's my business that allows me to
have the time freedom
and financial freedom to go do the thing
that I actually love.
So I've had kind of a crazy
entrepreneurial journey

(01:35:23):
but that's how every entrepreneur is
of trial, error,
failing, different business,
trying new things to kind of wrap around
how I fell into Amazon.
I started selling on
Amazon about six years ago.
My own products were
designed and manufactured
them overseas, sell them on Amazon.

(01:35:45):
And that led to me
discovering this new business
that is kind of a newer business model
most people don't know about
but it's just the
funnest thing ever where brands
will pay you to make video
reviews of their products.
And it sounds crazy.
But for example, like

(01:36:05):
this product right here,
product that was sent to me by a brand,
they send me their product,
I get the product for free.
I make like a 60 second video and say,
hey guys, this is a carabiner.
It's also a bottle opener.
It's also a fidget toy.
And just kind of going over the pros and
cons of the product,
basically just giving a
real review from a real person.

(01:36:26):
And that's what I do for work.
It's the craziest thing.
I just get everyday
products showing up on my doorstep.
The brands are paying me
to send me those products.
And then also I take those videos
and I upload them to Amazon.
So I'm not uploading
them to social media.
It's totally separate.
I upload them to Amazon.
And then I get paid two to 4% commission
every time my videos watch and the

(01:36:46):
product is purchased.
And one of the most
beautiful things about the program
is it's free to sign up.
It's free to have an account.
It's free to receive the products
that you don't have to spend money.
So it's a very unique business model.
And it's something that I
always recommend to people
if they're looking for a side gig,
a little side income that
they want to do from home.

(01:37:07):
Or if someone, I mean, there's people
that do this full time,
but it's been super fun.
Dang man, I'm gonna
have to look into that.
It's a blast, man.
I'm not sure if you saw
my story that I posted.
All the packages.
What?
Just tons of packages, yeah.
Yeah, so tomorrow I'm
actually doing a garage sale
at my house and it's the

(01:37:28):
first ever free garage sale.
So me and my brother have
accumulated about $20,000 worth
of free product over the last month.
And we were just kind of
doing a little give back thing
where putting all the
products out on my driveway
and people can come and
just take a bunch of products.
Because I mean, we got them for free

(01:37:50):
and it's taking over our house.
And so it's gonna be super fun.
It's a very fun business model
and great way to make
a little bit of money.
That's pretty cool too, to give back
and just like do good
in that way, you know?
Yeah.
Because I'm sure there's
gonna be people that go there

(01:38:10):
that like really need some of that stuff.
Yeah, and it's like
we can easily sell it.
And that's what usually what
we do is like we sell stuff
but we both just
achieved some goals recently.
My mind was meeting T-Pain
and wanted to do something to celebrate.
And it's like, what
better way to celebrate
than give back to those
who made it happen for me.
Kind of like what we

(01:38:31):
talked about at the beginning
is the goal is a lot bigger than just me.
And so yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Commendable, yeah, absolutely love that.
In all of this, what's
been one of the biggest things
or most important things
you've learned about yourself
in the process?
Yeah, I would say that
I'm capable of so much more.

(01:38:53):
I think this goes for everyone.
The only limits that we have
are the ones that we place on ourselves.
Each of us, we have
like endless potential.
We as human beings, our
potential really is endless
but the only limits that we'll have
are the ones that we place on ourselves.
If we don't think that we
can be financially free,

(01:39:13):
then we won't.
If we don't think that we
can live a healthy lifestyle,
then we won't.
And so by doing all of these things,
I'm learning, wow, I'm
capable of so much more.
Kind of like going to yoga
with the girl wearing dress clothes.
Like as I was sitting
there, I'm like, wow,
how much of my life am I missing

(01:39:35):
because of my fear of
other people think of me?
And same with business,
like the more that I grow,
I'm like, wow, I'm capable of more.
And so whatever the listener right now,
whatever it is that they're thinking
that they can achieve in
life, they can achieve way more.
And I wish that's like,
if I could go back and tell
my younger self something,

(01:39:56):
that's what I tell them is
that you're capable of way more
but the only thing that's
holding you back is you.
Powerful.
Yeah, and there's a
word coming to mind there
and that's control, like
learning that you are in control,
which is sweet.
Is that kind of
something you teach on too?
Yeah, we're the
author of our own stories.

(01:40:18):
Like no one is going to
tell you how to live your life.
No one is going to control you.
Like you're the one in control.
And if you don't take
control of your life,
then life is gonna control you.
If you don't have a vision of what it is
that you want to achieve,
then life is just going to
push you in whatever way.
But if you know where you wanna go,
that's going to affect the

(01:40:39):
decisions that you make today.
And yeah, taking control of your life
is what's gonna allow you to get to that.
Amazing.
I have one more question.
It's part of a new segment
that I'm planning on bringing to the show
and it is called the meaning segment.
The meaning?
The meaning segment.
Yeah, so I'm curious with all of this,

(01:41:02):
what's like the meaning behind it,
the deeper meaning for you?
And then also with music,
is there a song or a
band or someone like that
that's really resonated with you
and what's the meaning behind that?
My goal and what I
feel is my purpose in life
is to inspire, help and influence
as many people as possible

(01:41:23):
to be the best versions of themselves.
I feel very blessed for
the experiences I've had
and for the constant discomfort
that I've put myself through
because it's truly changed my life.
Like I said, if Kate four
years ago could see Kate today,
he would be in disbelief.

(01:41:44):
And I feel like it could be selfish of me
to not take my story
and share it with people
because it's truly changed my life.
And that's why I share on social media
and I get DMs from
people every day saying,
"Kate, I did 10 pushups today.
Kate, I went and said
hi to a stranger today."

(01:42:06):
That's like what brings
me the most fulfillment.
It makes me so happy.
And so, the listeners, if
they ever have any questions,
I love talking to people
and helping them achieve whatever it is
that they wanna achieve.
I do my best to get to all my DMs
and I'm happy to share wins
and share other people's wins with them.

(01:42:27):
So that's like my bigger underlying
meaning of everything
is to help as many people as possible
to be the best versions of themselves.
And as for a song or
artist that I resonate with,
I mean, something that came to mind,
I mean, I've been on a T-Pain grind
so I can't not talk about T-Pain.

(01:42:49):
Something I really like about T-Pain
and that I resonate with
him is a lot of people,
when he first started his career,
he got a lot of hate
because he does auto-tune.
He was the pioneer to auto-tune
and no one really was
doing auto-tune before him
and a lot of people thought
he was using it as a crutch
because he couldn't actually sing.

(01:43:09):
When in reality, the man can sing.
He's got an amazing voice.
And he talked about the
reason why he used auto-tune
was to be different.
There's tons of people
who had great voices,
but he just wanted to be different.
So he used auto-tune and now
auto-tune is insanely popular
in today's music and he was
like the guy who started it.

(01:43:31):
And what I really
like about that story is
he wasn't following what was normal.
And even though he had
people like Usher, for example,
who told him to his face
that he effed up music.
To hear that from
someone of Usher status,

(01:43:51):
that's gotta be crippling for you.
But he did things that weren't normal
and that's what has made
him to his success today.
And so what I really
like about that story
and why it resonates
with me is I feel like
my entire journey is the
most not normal thing possible.
And I always say
normalize not being normal.
Why be normal when you can be you?

(01:44:12):
There's only one version of you.
Go be you.
Who has ever made a
goal to dance in their car
until they meet a fame like T-Pain?
Like that's never really been done.
It's not a normal thing,
but that's what makes life so fun
is living in a not normal way.
And we all have the
things that we enjoy in life.

(01:44:33):
And even if it's not normal, who cares?
I just, I think the
concept of not being normal
is very powerful.
It is, it is, man.
So much that I wanna rant on right there.
Man, okay, real quick, I just wanna say,
I know the not normal thing
because my whole story is going viral
with a McDonald's cup beatboxing

(01:44:55):
and like having that
blow up and change my life
and do like motivate, have it
turn into motivational stuff
which I never saw coming.
Cool.
So you never know
what's around the corner
is a good message.
But then also, yeah, I
followed T-Pain for years
and I knew that he could sing
and I loved one of his

(01:45:16):
collaborations on YouTube
with a guy called Kurt Hugo Snyder
where it was all like acoustic.
It was not auto tune
anything or electric anything.
It was beautiful.
Really?
I'm gonna have to look at that.
Yeah, I'll shoot you the link.
And then he was on Masked Singer
and people didn't know who it was.
And I'm just like,

(01:45:36):
that's for sure T-Pain.
(laughing) Hell, you know.
I felt like I could recognize his voice.
Really?
That's the thing is I don't think,
I think on a mass scale,
like 90 plus percent of people
just knew him for auto tune.
Not for all the other
stuff that he can do
and for his actual

(01:45:56):
skills that he does have.
So that's a cool story.
Thank you for sharing that.
And thanks for being on the show, man.
We'll link your social
media and everything,
but is there anything
else that you'd wanna share
or plug before we wrap things up?
I'll just leave you and the
audience with an invitation
that if something came to your mind
during this podcast,

(01:46:17):
a fear of yours or whatever it is,
a discomfort, something
that's holding you back,
that's a sign to go do that thing.
The moment you don't wanna
do something is when you,
the moment when you at
least wanna do something
is when you should do it.
So even if it's something small,
you don't have a lot of
people when they see my stuff
and they think, oh, like that's too much.

(01:46:38):
Everyone's comfort zone is different
and you can start so small.
You know, if you're
scared to talk to people,
go wave at someone,
start something so small.
And that's my invitation is just
go get out of that comfort zone.
Love it.
Yeah, those thoughts are cues
to follow the breadcrumbs from God,
I like to say, and just go do it.

(01:46:58):
So that's amazing.
Kate Peterson, everyone.
And I'm gonna do a quick beat box for you
on the way out of here.
Sounds good.
Let's hear it.
(beatboxing)
(beatboxing)

(01:47:18):
Thank you Kate.
(beatboxing)
Let's go.
No way, bro.
You're talking about
doing things not normal.
I've never had someone do
a beat box on a podcast.
I was fired.
Thank you so much, man.
Thanks so much for being on that beat.

(01:47:41):
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